Orlandi: We need 11 wins (From The Argus)

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

What exactly do you mean by over-complication? Exactly how complicated does something have to be before it becomes over-complicated? I never took you for someone who thought they knew better than GP.

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

mark by the sea wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

What exactly do you mean by over-complication? Exactly how complicated does something have to be before it becomes over-complicated? I never took you for someone who thought they knew better than GP.

We give to much respect to sides, especially at the Amex, Gus in my opinion picks sides tactically, the Blackburn away a perfect example.
I personally think that's over complicating team selection, to much respect to sides , means we change our team far to much. Blackburn having a poor season, we pick a side without cms starting? Gus admitted he got that one wrong, he has done it several times.

russellsnr2 wrote:
We will be lucky to get into the play off position this season. I feel that the club was a little slow in getting players in that we all seem to think we needed (Striker and Defender) in saying that our defense has certainly tightened up from last season.
Seems to me that Gus did not have an eye on promotion this time round but was and is looking at next season for an automatic promotion place. A signing or two in the summer months and we as a club with solid support will be ready to go up and make a good account of ourselves in the premiere div.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

What exactly do you mean by over-complication? Exactly how complicated does something have to be before it becomes over-complicated? I never took you for someone who thought they knew better than GP.

We give to much respect to sides, especially at the Amex, Gus in my opinion picks sides tactically, the Blackburn away a perfect example.
I personally think that's over complicating team selection, to much respect to sides , means we change our team far to much. Blackburn having a poor season, we pick a side without cms starting? Gus admitted he got that one wrong, he has done it several times.

Of course Gus picks his sides tactically based on the opposition - to do otherwise is folly. Of course he gets it wrong every now and then, but to not even try? We are not the best side in this division, so 'letting the opposition worry about us' is hubris.

As 7Rookie says above, it is not the tactics that has let us down, it's not taking our chances and killing off teams when we have them by the throat.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
But MBTS, we are NOT the best side in the division! Gus, I have no doubt, picks whichever team and tactics he believes has the best chance in THAT particular match. Gus likes to exert control on games, so picking an all-out attacking side is never going to happen, as it exposes too much soft underbelly.

mark by the sea wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

What exactly do you mean by over-complication? Exactly how complicated does something have to be before it becomes over-complicated? I never took you for someone who thought they knew better than GP.

We give to much respect to sides, especially at the Amex, Gus in my opinion picks sides tactically, the Blackburn away a perfect example.
I personally think that's over complicating team selection, to much respect to sides , means we change our team far to much. Blackburn having a poor season, we pick a side without cms starting? Gus admitted he got that one wrong, he has done it several times.

tug509 wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

What exactly do you mean by over-complication? Exactly how complicated does something have to be before it becomes over-complicated? I never took you for someone who thought they knew better than GP.

We give to much respect to sides, especially at the Amex, Gus in my opinion picks sides tactically, the Blackburn away a perfect example.
I personally think that's over complicating team selection, to much respect to sides , means we change our team far to much. Blackburn having a poor season, we pick a side without cms starting? Gus admitted he got that one wrong, he has done it several times.

Totally agree mbts,the more components you add to something,the more there is to go wrong,sometimes the easiest and more direct way is the best way. UTA

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
I think he IS concerned about our defence, or rather the lack of pace through the middle of it, hence trying to protect it. Crofts/Hammond give more protection, Dicker gives us more options going forward. It's a balance, and unsurprisingly, playing away at an expensively constructed (if previously underperforming) side, Gus chose to go a touch defensive. He is not the first manage to do that.

dave from bexill wrote:
Over the months I keep seeing on here that we are the best team in our league. Obviously that's a nice thought, but very much a matter of opinion and probably supporters of at least a dozen clubs have the same thoughts about their own sides. Realistically, I would think it's difficult to argue against those who think Cardiff are the best team, but for certain we will all know come May.

dave from bexill wrote:
Over the months I keep seeing on here that we are the best team in our league. Obviously that's a nice thought, but very much a matter of opinion and probably supporters of at least a dozen clubs have the same thoughts about their own sides. Realistically, I would think it's difficult to argue against those who think Cardiff are the best team, but for certain we will all know come May.

GosportGull wrote:
We build play too slow and too predicitable .. when was the last time we hit a team on the counter attack ? And for all of you who say , we are not about that we are not a counter attack team .. well we have the pace to do it with Buckley , Lua Lua and CMS ..but it just wont happen because of our stiffling tactics ... I am all in favour of the passing game , its good to watch ..but we go sideways more than forwards too much , its too predicatable and teams press high up the field and we end up getting bogged down ...
That said , i think we have the quality players now to really open up teams and win games ... if we play a little more attack minded instead of defensive ... play to our strengths and not to counter other teams..especially at home !

On another issue , really good to see us trying to bring in youngsters with talent , all looking good for the future as i think GG and Adam have worked wonders but are slowing up a bit of late .... Hope we get the Dutch lad .. He will be an asset for the future ....

GosportGull wrote:
We build play too slow and too predicitable .. when was the last time we hit a team on the counter attack ? And for all of you who say , we are not about that we are not a counter attack team .. well we have the pace to do it with Buckley , Lua Lua and CMS ..but it just wont happen because of our stiffling tactics ... I am all in favour of the passing game , its good to watch ..but we go sideways more than forwards too much , its too predicatable and teams press high up the field and we end up getting bogged down ... That said , i think we have the quality players now to really open up teams and win games ... if we play a little more attack minded instead of defensive ... play to our strengths and not to counter other teams..especially at home ! On another issue , really good to see us trying to bring in youngsters with talent , all looking good for the future as i think GG and Adam have worked wonders but are slowing up a bit of late .... Hope we get the Dutch lad .. He will be an asset for the future ....

LesBerry wrote:
So many experts - if only Gus read this site then I am sure he would know what to do !!!

All we need now is to hear from VegasSeagull with his insight on how we perform on the pitch every week - from Las Vegas ??? then I am sure Gus would be able to work out the best way of getting automatic promotion, let alone play-off's..

pappaK wrote:

LesBerry wrote:
So many experts - if only Gus read this site then I am sure he would know what to do !!!

All we need now is to hear from VegasSeagull with his insight on how we perform on the pitch every week - from Las Vegas ??? then I am sure Gus would be able to work out the best way of getting automatic promotion, let alone play-off's..

Mate,how can a person 8000 miles away ,unable to watch a match every home game give an insight to how the team should perform.
All Ex pats can do is read opinions and then give their opinions on the read opinions.
LesBerry are you being sarcastic????? in your blog
The best insight is to go to the matches,talk to the people around you,get the feel of the debate,best place is in the bar after the match ,you get the best feel from what people are thinking,lots are relevent,lots not,but you do not dare to try bullying people .Too much emphasis seems to be on rhetoric and battalogy here
Too many Wannabe football Pundits.
Too many Wannabe football Journalists
Too many with lots of time on their hands smother this site with their IMHO
Tony and his backers will do what is best for the club.
Gus will do what he thinks is best for the club.Anything any one says will fall on deaf ears.
If anyone thinks they can do better ,put your CV in
I don`t judge, God does.
I`m the one who makes the appointment.
Football is like a drama
The Amex the stage
Players are the actors
Gus is the Director
Will he win the Oscar ???

WestStander17 wrote:

GosportGull wrote: We build play too slow and too predicitable .. when was the last time we hit a team on the counter attack ? And for all of you who say , we are not about that we are not a counter attack team .. well we have the pace to do it with Buckley , Lua Lua and CMS ..but it just wont happen because of our stiffling tactics ... I am all in favour of the passing game , its good to watch ..but we go sideways more than forwards too much , its too predicatable and teams press high up the field and we end up getting bogged down ... That said , i think we have the quality players now to really open up teams and win games ... if we play a little more attack minded instead of defensive ... play to our strengths and not to counter other teams..especially at home ! On another issue , really good to see us trying to bring in youngsters with talent , all looking good for the future as i think GG and Adam have worked wonders but are slowing up a bit of late .... Hope we get the Dutch lad .. He will be an asset for the future ....

One question to ask you GosportGull and others that have said similar.... Would you rather play as we do, building up slowly, keeping the ball and trying to pick our way through an organised defence..... OR Attack quicker, attempt more expansive forward passes with some success but often losing the ball and having to defend because the oppo has the ball far more often? Its been mentioned our defence might not be the strongest so surely the less time we are defending for the better. Yes, building up slowly allows the oppo to retreat and get organised but I sit a lot easier in my padded seat when we are keeping possession than I do when the other team have the ball! In most games, especially at home, creating chances hasn't been a problem, its been taking them that's the issue. Hopefully, Ulloa will improve that problem. If anyone feels frustrated when we are passing it slowly across the back 4, into midfield and back again, just see it as time we aren't defending. Simples!

VegasSeagull wrote:
LesBerry, the weather in North Las Vegas is pleasant right now, we should see close to 70f today. We will see a drop in temperatures over the next few days due to a few rain clouds moving in.

There was a shooting close to the strip last night, two deaths resulted and the incident was thought to be gang related.

I would comment on the weather in Brighton but how would I know anythiong about that. I guess I could also comment on the armed man that Sussex police arrested but again, how would I know anything about that.

If only I had a computer where I could look these things up, read official reports and what fans are saying.
Witht his internet thingy wouldn't you think that newspapers, television stations and maybe even the clubs would provide information, wouldn't that be good.

Well I guess I will just have to rely on my imagination and dream up results and performance reports.

Wait a minute Les, I am forgetting something, perhaps I could use this new invention, I am sure you have heard of it, it's called the, telephone. Maybe I could call family and friends who attend matches, perhaps they could tell me about the games, yeah that would work.

mark by the sea wrote:

pappaK wrote:

LesBerry wrote:
So many experts - if only Gus read this site then I am sure he would know what to do !!!

All we need now is to hear from VegasSeagull with his insight on how we perform on the pitch every week - from Las Vegas ??? then I am sure Gus would be able to work out the best way of getting automatic promotion, let alone play-off's..

Mate,how can a person 8000 miles away ,unable to watch a match every home game give an insight to how the team should perform.
All Ex pats can do is read opinions and then give their opinions on the read opinions.
LesBerry are you being sarcastic????? in your blog
The best insight is to go to the matches,talk to the people around you,get the feel of the debate,best place is in the bar after the match ,you get the best feel from what people are thinking,lots are relevent,lots not,but you do not dare to try bullying people .Too much emphasis seems to be on rhetoric and battalogy here
Too many Wannabe football Pundits.
Too many Wannabe football Journalists
Too many with lots of time on their hands smother this site with their IMHO
Tony and his backers will do what is best for the club.
Gus will do what he thinks is best for the club.Anything any one says will fall on deaf ears.
If anyone thinks they can do better ,put your CV in
I don`t judge, God does.
I`m the one who makes the appointment.
Football is like a drama
The Amex the stage
Players are the actors
Gus is the Director
Will he win the Oscar ???

Think you miss the one thing in your list, the one reason we went to withdean, watched some of the worst football in the worst conditions, paying well over the odds.. It's called passion, I have supported the Albion since my brother took me to a evening game when I was about 8, over 40 years ago, I was fortunate to see us play at wembley, drove with friends over night to see us win at Newcastle.. Passion is what drives us to do it, it's not a soap .

pappaK wrote:

LesBerry wrote:
So many experts - if only Gus read this site then I am sure he would know what to do !!!

All we need now is to hear from VegasSeagull with his insight on how we perform on the pitch every week - from Las Vegas ??? then I am sure Gus would be able to work out the best way of getting automatic promotion, let alone play-off's..

Mate,how can a person 8000 miles away ,unable to watch a match every home game give an insight to how the team should perform.
All Ex pats can do is read opinions and then give their opinions on the read opinions.
LesBerry are you being sarcastic????? in your blog
The best insight is to go to the matches,talk to the people around you,get the feel of the debate,best place is in the bar after the match ,you get the best feel from what people are thinking,lots are relevent,lots not,but you do not dare to try bullying people .Too much emphasis seems to be on rhetoric and battalogy here
Too many Wannabe football Pundits.
Too many Wannabe football Journalists
Too many with lots of time on their hands smother this site with their IMHO
Tony and his backers will do what is best for the club.
Gus will do what he thinks is best for the club.Anything any one says will fall on deaf ears.
If anyone thinks they can do better ,put your CV in
I don`t judge, God does.
I`m the one who makes the appointment.
Football is like a drama
The Amex the stage
Players are the actors
Gus is the Director
Will he win the Oscar ???

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

LACHANCE wrote:

Neville wrote: Looking at last 17 fixtures: Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L Burnley W Hudd W B/City D Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W Leeds L Wolves W Not enough points I fear what do others think

Anything can happen.One cannot take any game for granted.We could win the lot but we could also loose the lot.How often do the papers get the results correct about 35% when they are lucky.

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
I think he IS concerned about our defence, or rather the lack of pace through the middle of it, hence trying to protect it. Crofts/Hammond give more protection, Dicker gives us more options going forward. It's a balance, and unsurprisingly, playing away at an expensively constructed (if previously underperforming) side, Gus chose to go a touch defensive. He is not the first manage to do that.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
But MBTS, we are NOT the best side in the division! Gus, I have no doubt, picks whichever team and tactics he believes has the best chance in THAT particular match. Gus likes to exert control on games, so picking an all-out attacking side is never going to happen, as it exposes too much soft underbelly.

raymondo999 wrote:
What a great set of posts. Yesteryear this would have been a good nights rabbit down the pub, but can't manage that these days, so just read what you guys say. Keep it up. Just one quibble, I'm a football fan not just a bha fan, am I welcome here. Get a lot of dirty looks when I clap good football by the away side at the Amex.

VegasSeagull wrote:
LesBerry, the weather in North Las Vegas is pleasant right now, we should see close to 70f today. We will see a drop in temperatures over the next few days due to a few rain clouds moving in.

There was a shooting close to the strip last night, two deaths resulted and the incident was thought to be gang related.

I would comment on the weather in Brighton but how would I know anythiong about that. I guess I could also comment on the armed man that Sussex police arrested but again, how would I know anything about that.

If only I had a computer where I could look these things up, read official reports and what fans are saying.
Witht his internet thingy wouldn't you think that newspapers, television stations and maybe even the clubs would provide information, wouldn't that be good.

Well I guess I will just have to rely on my imagination and dream up results and performance reports.

Wait a minute Les, I am forgetting something, perhaps I could use this new invention, I am sure you have heard of it, it's called the, telephone. Maybe I could call family and friends who attend matches, perhaps they could tell me about the games, yeah that would work.

raymondo999 wrote:
What a great set of posts. Yesteryear this would have been a good nights rabbit down the pub, but can't manage that these days, so just read what you guys say. Keep it up. Just one quibble, I'm a football fan not just a bha fan, am I welcome here. Get a lot of dirty looks when I clap good football by the away side at the Amex.

suede27 wrote:
11 wins hey? Championship next season it is then.

raymondo999 wrote:
What a great set of posts. Yesteryear this would have been a good nights rabbit down the pub, but can't manage that these days, so just read what you guys say. Keep it up. Just one quibble, I'm a football fan not just a bha fan, am I welcome here. Get a lot of dirty looks when I clap good football by the away side at the Amex.

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

tug509 wrote:

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

I tried this the other day,and thought.

Hull-W,Blkn-W,Car-L,

Burn-W,Hudd-W,BC-W,B

ol-D,Bar-W,cp-W,NF-D

,CA,W,LC-D,Mid-L,PU-

D,B,pool-D,LU-D,WW-W

.

this will give us 75 points,but i think that may fall short of what we`ll need. UTA

Freeloaders wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
LesBerry, the weather in North Las Vegas is pleasant right now, we should see close to 70f today. We will see a drop in temperatures over the next few days due to a few rain clouds moving in.

There was a shooting close to the strip last night, two deaths resulted and the incident was thought to be gang related.

I would comment on the weather in Brighton but how would I know anythiong about that. I guess I could also comment on the armed man that Sussex police arrested but again, how would I know anything about that.

If only I had a computer where I could look these things up, read official reports and what fans are saying.
Witht his internet thingy wouldn't you think that newspapers, television stations and maybe even the clubs would provide information, wouldn't that be good.

Well I guess I will just have to rely on my imagination and dream up results and performance reports.

Wait a minute Les, I am forgetting something, perhaps I could use this new invention, I am sure you have heard of it, it's called the, telephone. Maybe I could call family and friends who attend matches, perhaps they could tell me about the games, yeah that would work.

Don't let them get to you Vegas.Like i said before its here for everyone to use and say what they feel.If we all thought the same there would be know point in the site.You keep going my son.

tug509 wrote:

Neville wrote:
Looking at last 17 fixtures:
Hull D Blkburn W Cardiff L
Burnley W Hudd W B/City D
Bolton W Barnsley D C Palace D
Notts F D Charlton W Leicester D
Middlesb L Peterboro W Blkp W
Leeds L Wolves W

Not enough points I fear what do others think

I tried this the other day,and thought.

Hull-W,Blkn-W,Car-L,

Burn-W,Hudd-W,BC-W,B

ol-D,Bar-W,cp-W,NF-D

,CA,W,LC-D,Mid-L,PU-

D,B,pool-D,LU-D,WW-W

.

this will give us 75 points,but i think that may fall short of what we`ll need. UTA

johntenerife wrote:
as I mentioned 3 months ago unless we start to play more attacking football we will never get out of the championship. Since then we still play negative, defensive football. Out of the last 21 league matches we have won just 5 games. This speaks for itself. To win 11 out of the next 17 games we have to play a different way. If Gus insists on carrying on as before we will never make the play offs. I cannot see that happening and in my opinion we will probably end up mid-table.
I am fortunate to be able to see many of the games even though I live abroad so I can give an honest opinion.
Gus is too set in his method to change and unless he leaves to manage another club we will never get promoted.
This is to all the "in Gus we trust" brigade. When he is approached by a premier league club do you honestly believe he will stay with the Albion. If the offer is to his liking he will leave without a second thought.

GosportGull wrote:

WestStander17 wrote:

GosportGull wrote: We build play too slow and too predicitable .. when was the last time we hit a team on the counter attack ? And for all of you who say , we are not about that we are not a counter attack team .. well we have the pace to do it with Buckley , Lua Lua and CMS ..but it just wont happen because of our stiffling tactics ... I am all in favour of the passing game , its good to watch ..but we go sideways more than forwards too much , its too predicatable and teams press high up the field and we end up getting bogged down ... That said , i think we have the quality players now to really open up teams and win games ... if we play a little more attack minded instead of defensive ... play to our strengths and not to counter other teams..especially at home ! On another issue , really good to see us trying to bring in youngsters with talent , all looking good for the future as i think GG and Adam have worked wonders but are slowing up a bit of late .... Hope we get the Dutch lad .. He will be an asset for the future ....

One question to ask you GosportGull and others that have said similar.... Would you rather play as we do, building up slowly, keeping the ball and trying to pick our way through an organised defence..... OR Attack quicker, attempt more expansive forward passes with some success but often losing the ball and having to defend because the oppo has the ball far more often? Its been mentioned our defence might not be the strongest so surely the less time we are defending for the better. Yes, building up slowly allows the oppo to retreat and get organised but I sit a lot easier in my padded seat when we are keeping possession than I do when the other team have the ball! In most games, especially at home, creating chances hasn't been a problem, its been taking them that's the issue. Hopefully, Ulloa will improve that problem. If anyone feels frustrated when we are passing it slowly across the back 4, into midfield and back again, just see it as time we aren't defending. Simples!

I know what you mean Westander.. In answer to your question , i have no problem with the passing game as i stated earlier but we just need more creativity in midfield or maybe more movement up front and then the forward pass as opposed to the backwards and sideways pass would be more on than not ..I think the addition of Vicente would probably give us that inspiration and as it looks doubtful that he will be at the club next year , we may as well play him now ... It would be nice to see some counter attacking football sometimes ..but yes i do agree if we are holding the ball ..all be it for long periods in our own half and along the back four , we are in control... we just need options .. either the wingers or the full backs getting forward or the midfield seeing forward runs from the strikers ...sorry STRIKER ! Don't get me started lol ... I think we will get the last play off place but we will have to finish the season really well ...and up the tempo of our game ... If we played like we did against Arsenal every game , we would easily be top 6 ... i dont know why one game we look sensational and then another we dont look like we could score or even create a chance all match .... I think alot of this is down to Gus to change .. we wont go down but we wont get promoted at this rate .. Imho..we should throw some caution to the wind and play CMS and ULLOA upfront ..have Hoskins playing behind them and Hammond, Vicente and Bridcutt play the midfield. Bring on either Buckley or Lua Lua in the second half when teams are getting tired and whip in as many crosses as possible ... Thats just MY opinion and doesnt count for much except i love my club and want us to do well .... GG

mark by the sea wrote:
We really have played football to get out of this division, without winning games, 11 wins in 17? I can't see that, however, maybe that will stop the tactical **** footing, and lets the players loose, and go for goals..
Over complication is costing us points.

Freeloaders wrote:

johntenerife wrote:
as I mentioned 3 months ago unless we start to play more attacking football we will never get out of the championship. Since then we still play negative, defensive football. Out of the last 21 league matches we have won just 5 games. This speaks for itself. To win 11 out of the next 17 games we have to play a different way. If Gus insists on carrying on as before we will never make the play offs. I cannot see that happening and in my opinion we will probably end up mid-table.
I am fortunate to be able to see many of the games even though I live abroad so I can give an honest opinion.
Gus is too set in his method to change and unless he leaves to manage another club we will never get promoted.
This is to all the "in Gus we trust" brigade. When he is approached by a premier league club do you honestly believe he will stay with the Albion. If the offer is to his liking he will leave without a second thought.

Best post in the history of the world my friend.100% spot on.Same with Buckley.Thank you yet another fan with their own brain.

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those who would have a pop at expats, and me in particular I would remind you of a few things.

1. We are all fans no matter where we live.
2. Yes you guys have more insight than we do because you get to go to the matches, well lucky you.
3. Apart from seeing the matches we get to find out exactly what you do.
4. You guys comment on away matches, matches most of you don't get to see, that makes us even.
5. Yes us expats may play what might be called, fantasy football or manager for the day, but don't we all do that, isn't that what chat sites are all about.
6. To have an opinion on what you don't actualy see, relying on other's reports, doesn't always make the opinion worthless, we all watch news reports on things other than sport, and we all form opinons based on those reports.
7. Some on here say that some of us have, 'too much time on our hands,' well pardon us for being at an age where we do have a lot of spare time.
8. By making some of the comments that you do, qiestioning whether our comments are valid based on the fact that we don't get to see the matches, smacks of eliteism on your part, how dare we have an opinion if we don't get to the Amex.
9. Evaluating written reports, pulling from them the salient pooints is a profession for many people all over the world. You really shouldn't decry those that have this ability as for some of us it's how we make our living.
10. Your love of our club is no stronger than ours, if anyhting it is easier for you. Try walking in our shoes for a while, think about how you feel when you are away on vacation and can only read written reports. We have that feeling every day.

VegasSeagull wrote:
This season Brighton have had 329 shots of which 157 were on target resulting in just 41 goals We have amassed a total of 202 corner kicks. Cardiff have had 338 shots of which 175 were on target resulting in 51 goals. They have had 184 corner kicks. Just nine more shots than us but ten goals more and 17 more on target. Think of all the drawn matches we have had and consider those ten goals. Numbers such as these go some way to explain why we are not in the top six.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite the two teams that have scored the most goals, Watford and Palace have a shot on target ration of 50% from shots taken. Palace 52 goals from a total of 315 shots, of which 154 were on target, 180 corners for Palace. You are right, we have simply not converted enough of our chaces and sadly, that is down to those taking the shots. I have been calling for two strikers for months, to hope that Ulloa can turn things around on his own is a lot to ask. Both CMS and Buckley have seen their form dip to a point where if we had the right alternatives we may have scored more goals and we might have had more points. I hope Ulloa can do it and help others return to form but as I say, it's a big ask.. .

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite the two teams that have scored the most goals, Watford and Palace have a shot on target ration of 50% from shots taken.

Palace 52 goals from a total of 315 shots, of which 154 were on target, 180 corners for Palace.

You are right, we have simply not converted enough of our chaces and sadly, that is down to those taking the shots.
I have been calling for two strikers for months, to hope that Ulloa can turn things around on his own is a lot to ask. Both CMS and Buckley have seen their form dip to a point where if we had the right alternatives we may have scored more goals and we might have had more points.

I hope Ulloa can do it and help others return to form but as I say, it's a big ask.. .

Yorkieseagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Hovite the two teams that have scored the most goals, Watford and Palace have a shot on target ration of 50% from shots taken. Palace 52 goals from a total of 315 shots, of which 154 were on target, 180 corners for Palace. You are right, we have simply not converted enough of our chaces and sadly, that is down to those taking the shots. I have been calling for two strikers for months, to hope that Ulloa can turn things around on his own is a lot to ask. Both CMS and Buckley have seen their form dip to a point where if we had the right alternatives we may have scored more goals and we might have had more points. I hope Ulloa can do it and help others return to form but as I say, it's a big ask.. .

Vegas you have my respect as a scholar and a thinker. Keep on posting, I enjoy your clarity and analytical style. This site is not reserved only for those who have stood in the cold at Gillingham and Withdean, it is for fans of football in general and the Albion in particular.

GosportGull wrote:
We build play too slow and too predicitable .. when was the last time we hit a team on the counter attack ? And for all of you who say , we are not about that we are not a counter attack team .. well we have the pace to do it with Buckley , Lua Lua and CMS ..but it just wont happen because of our stiffling tactics ... I am all in favour of the passing game , its good to watch ..but we go sideways more than forwards too much , its too predicatable and teams press high up the field and we end up getting bogged down ...
That said , i think we have the quality players now to really open up teams and win games ... if we play a little more attack minded instead of defensive ... play to our strengths and not to counter other teams..especially at home !

On another issue , really good to see us trying to bring in youngsters with talent , all looking good for the future as i think GG and Adam have worked wonders but are slowing up a bit of late .... Hope we get the Dutch lad .. He will be an asset for the future ....

VegasSeagull wrote:
West stander I think I slightly mislead you in my comments. When I say that I have been bangng on about two strikers what I meant was, bring in Ulloa and another. We have needed the target man, or if you like, Ulloa, for ages but we didn't find one, but we could have bought a out and out striker whilst waiting to find our target man. We had Dobbie but we all know that didn't work. I am still of the opinion that we should get another striker and the loan window might give us the chance to.

VegasSeagull wrote:
WestStander I agree, the style is ok it's all down to the fact that we have not finished off enough of the chances created.

Had we acted earlier and bought a new striker, at about the time that Gus realised that Dobbie wasn't going to do it, we migth be better off today.

I am a CMS fan, and he is not the only one to miss chances but his score ratio to shots taken is not high.

It seems very clear that Hoskins, for what ever reason, is not the striker that Gus feels can do the job. I am not saying that is right or wrong, it just seems that way to me.
That said, our number of strikers over the last few months has been poor. Dobbie, didn't happen, Hoskins not happening, Barnes, converted to a utility player, we were short of options. Had we got a new out and out striker it could have helped. Today we have Ulloa but as I said yesterday, hoping that he will score enough goals to get us into the playoffs is a big ask, others have to get on the score sheet too.

WestStander17 wrote:
Agree with that, Vegas. I am a CMS fan too (although it may not sound like it at times!) but he isn't a "natural finisher". I keep believing that he could get on a run of goal scoring but it hasn't happened. It's a very different approach to that of the Peterborough team he was in and his goals tally has suffered. He seems to need a lot of chances before he takes one. If we'd had Michael Owen or someone like him playing all season, I think we'd be very near the top.

We are yet to see if Ulloa has the knack of putting it in the net. Hopefully he does but I think he will create more goals for others than CMS does.

VegasSeagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
This season Brighton have had 329 shots of which 157 were on target resulting in just 41 goals We have amassed a total of 202 corner kicks. Cardiff have had 338 shots of which 175 were on target resulting in 51 goals. They have had 184 corner kicks. Just nine more shots than us but ten goals more and 17 more on target. Think of all the drawn matches we have had and consider those ten goals. Numbers such as these go some way to explain why we are not in the top six.

The Watford stats are amazing cpmpared to ours and others.