Poyet's odds for Reading job slashed (From The Argus)

bruce beckett wrote:
Bookies aren't often wrong and some of them are making Gus 1-10 for the Reading job.

But I still refuse to believe that (a) Gus would leave us for Reading and (b) do so at a time that would seriously hurt the club's ambitions of making the Premier League. I know there's no loyalty in football these days but I like to think Gus is a bigger man than that.

captaincurses wrote:
To assume he won't go is naive. He will never get a "big" job until he is proven in the Premier League. Keeping Reading up and then getting them mid table would open many more doors. I was concerned with one of his comments after the Palace game, when he effectively said it was the perfect moment to finish at the club. Lets hope Sky are wrong.

bruce beckett wrote:
Bookies aren't often wrong and some of them are making Gus 1-10 for the Reading job.

But I still refuse to believe that (a) Gus would leave us for Reading and (b) do so at a time that would seriously hurt the club's ambitions of making the Premier League. I know there's no loyalty in football these days but I like to think Gus is a bigger man than that.

fairweathersupporter wrote:

captaincurses wrote:
To assume he won't go is naive. He will never get a "big" job until he is proven in the Premier League. Keeping Reading up and then getting them mid table would open many more doors. I was concerned with one of his comments after the Palace game, when he effectively said it was the perfect moment to finish at the club. Lets hope Sky are wrong.

I was puzzled at said comments and put them down to poor expression in his adopted language. But keeping Reading up would be a hard job in the limited games left and the treatment of thier former manager is also of concern. I don't put Gus down as a mug, so unless there's any toys being thrown out of the pram our end? Then can't see him going for it. New challenge? Nah... Possible BIG MISTAKE. But seemingly possible IF Sky are to be believed. They do and HAVE got things wrong in the past.

mr punch wrote:
I actually think that he will go, but not until this season is over. Promotion or not we will get a decent payout from wherever he goes as he's contracted til 2016 I think. Reading are done for, whoever their manager is so maybe they are looking to start a rebuilding process now it would make sense to me. Can't se Tony letting him go till the season's over though, that would be just plain daft. Someone suggested Di Matteo, I'd go with that one.

raymondo999 wrote:
Sorry parachute payments are income so they make FFP much easier for relegated clubs.

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
IF it happens...then lets get DI Matteo in quick!!!

SMF20 wrote:
Lots of ifs from me here.

IF Gus as reported has expressed his desire to speak with Reading and IF he has indeed been the one that has pushed for these talks then I would hope it is working both ways.

I would like whilst Gus is talking to Reading for Tony and his management team to be talking to prospective new managers. It seems only fair after all.

It might just make Gus realise IF this happened that he isn't irreplaceable and that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

No matter what transpires here, I have ultimate faith in Mr Bloom to continue taking our beloved club in the right direction.

Uta

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
Lots of ifs from me here.

IF Gus as reported has expressed his desire to speak with Reading and IF he has indeed been the one that has pushed for these talks then I would hope it is working both ways.

I would like whilst Gus is talking to Reading for Tony and his management team to be talking to prospective new managers. It seems only fair after all.

It might just make Gus realise IF this happened that he isn't irreplaceable and that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

No matter what transpires here, I have ultimate faith in Mr Bloom to continue taking our beloved club in the right direction.

Uta

Whatever happens, I'd be pretty certain it will be on TB's terms in whom I have utmost confidence. Swansea were sweating on Brendan Rodgers leaving for Liverpool and look at them now (now they're sweating on Michael Laudrup leaving for, perhaps, Real Madrid which, in itself, may present GP with a better opportunity than Reading?)

Whatever happens, this is just another stepping stone on our path to glory and Gus will have played his part; the next manager will, I'm sure, take us on to the next phase of the club's fantastic history.

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
Lots of ifs from me here.

IF Gus as reported has expressed his desire to speak with Reading and IF he has indeed been the one that has pushed for these talks then I would hope it is working both ways.

I would like whilst Gus is talking to Reading for Tony and his management team to be talking to prospective new managers. It seems only fair after all.

It might just make Gus realise IF this happened that he isn't irreplaceable and that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

No matter what transpires here, I have ultimate faith in Mr Bloom to continue taking our beloved club in the right direction.

Uta

Whatever happens, I'd be pretty certain it will be on TB's terms in whom I have utmost confidence. Swansea were sweating on Brendan Rodgers leaving for Liverpool and look at them now (now they're sweating on Michael Laudrup leaving for, perhaps, Real Madrid which, in itself, may present GP with a better opportunity than Reading?)

Whatever happens, this is just another stepping stone on our path to glory and Gus will have played his part; the next manager will, I'm sure, take us on to the next phase of the club's fantastic history.

davyboy wrote:

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
Lots of ifs from me here.

IF Gus as reported has expressed his desire to speak with Reading and IF he has indeed been the one that has pushed for these talks then I would hope it is working both ways.

I would like whilst Gus is talking to Reading for Tony and his management team to be talking to prospective new managers. It seems only fair after all.

It might just make Gus realise IF this happened that he isn't irreplaceable and that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

No matter what transpires here, I have ultimate faith in Mr Bloom to continue taking our beloved club in the right direction.

Uta

Whatever happens, I'd be pretty certain it will be on TB's terms in whom I have utmost confidence. Swansea were sweating on Brendan Rodgers leaving for Liverpool and look at them now (now they're sweating on Michael Laudrup leaving for, perhaps, Real Madrid which, in itself, may present GP with a better opportunity than Reading?)

Whatever happens, this is just another stepping stone on our path to glory and Gus will have played his part; the next manager will, I'm sure, take us on to the next phase of the club's fantastic history.

quite right. we are on the up whoever is in charge. it would be nice to keep our best players, but Bridge is a problem, as his wages of £90000/week are just out of our league, quite literally! however, with the crowds we are getting, i'm sure TB will ensure hat players get pay rises for their efforts. i think possibly that Gus would prefer spain, but who knows?

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
I don't think the bookies would reduce odds to 1/10 without very good reason. 1/10, for heaven's sake - that means his office door's name badge is already on order!
Something has triggered a massive run on the betting, and strange as it may seem to us I believe this is more than mere whimsy. Albion could be looking for a new manager quite soon....very soon in fact.

raymondo999 wrote:
Does anyone think Alan mullery's appearance on the big screen on Sunday was significant?

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:
Looking at worst-case, if GP does, let's say, leave for Reading, the worry then becomes which of our players will he attempt to prise away from the Amex?

mikeygit wrote:
Albion having given Reading permission to speak to Gus--BUT will he want to?? No one --I can see-- has mentioned this. Surely this is a relevant point. If he does, does that indicate he could be interested?? Be a shame if he does as I thought he had more ambition than Reading in the position they are in now.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
I don't think the bookies would reduce odds to 1/10 without very good reason. 1/10, for heaven's sake - that means his office door's name badge is already on order!
Something has triggered a massive run on the betting, and strange as it may seem to us I believe this is more than mere whimsy. Albion could be looking for a new manager quite soon....very soon in fact.

Neville wrote:
If the club has given Reading permission to speak to Poyet then the club should be making a statement confirming this or otherwise. It is always the fans that are kept in the dark, this should have waited until after the season ended.
The timing for this story could not be worse,with season ticket renewals currently being taken, some new fans may now hold fire, this uncertainty for all including the players is treating the fans with contempt,as is Poyet if he does want to talk to them. The Chairman would not give permission unless he had already spoken with Poyet, so you can only assume Poyet does want to speak with them.
when this happens it is very rare that the manager does not leave. This whole thing leave a nasty taste in the mouth.

tug509 wrote:
I cant believe Gus would even consider a move,let alone to a club no bigger than us. If there is any truth to this,then money has to be the driving force,Reading will be very lucky to take 5 points from their remaining games,in which case they will be relegated.

So again its money,parachute payments and a wealthy Russian owner,would all but guarantee an immediate return to the prem,probably with a title to boot. The money Gus would get from a deal like this,would be significant,to say the least.

The worst for us is still to come,...if Gus feels he has the team with us,bar 2or 3 descent players that Mr Bloom cannot budget for this year,he may,should he leave,take the cream from us,and add the sugar from a rich Russian,and take the championship title next year,with the sky tv payments plus promotion monies,he may turn a team like Reading into a top ten side.

Di Mateo is my vote should this end up being true,and not just a very bad joke as it sounds. No one has said it yet,so i will,if true,this would be the biggest stab in the back,this great club has ever witnessed.

Gus is not just appreciated as a brilliant manager,but a man that we all thought would not give up until he got us up!!!. If Chelsea,Spurs, or any other big hitter came calling,we would understand,we wouldn`t like it but we would wish him well,and he would have a home and respect from us for ever.

If this proves true,my faith in honour for your club,has taken a massive hit. UTA

Baldseagull wrote:
Too busy grinning over the Palace win to frown about this.

hannover seagull wrote:
Betting odds are all relative and reflect very little in real life
If one punter has a large lump on anything anywhere the odds shorten automatically
Gus has been odds on for Chelsea,Villa,QPR and even Spurs at one time
In fact he´s been linked to more clubs than Tiger and Rory put together.
Every time a Prem post comes up we have to go through this charade.
However I find it a bit concerning that he has gone on holiday at this crucial time of the season while we so badly need our support striker
Maybe job done already to be announced later?
Who knows?

All a bit odd thats all.
UTA.................

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VegasSeagull wrote:
Just had a rethink on this article.

If you were to poll the footballing world and ask them, is this a good move for Gus considering the immidiate prospects of the two clubs, I think you would get a resounding NO!

If Gus takes this job then IMHO there is more to it than his ambitions to manage at the top level.

I think this is a done deal, and I also think that maybe one day we will hear the if's and buts of it all. I hope I am wrong, and I usually am so keep your chins up.

raymondo999 wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Betting odds are all relative and reflect very little in real life
If one punter has a large lump on anything anywhere the odds shorten automatically
Gus has been odds on for Chelsea,Villa,QPR and even Spurs at one time
In fact he´s been linked to more clubs than Tiger and Rory put together.
Every time a Prem post comes up we have to go through this charade.
However I find it a bit concerning that he has gone on holiday at this crucial time of the season while we so badly need our support striker
Maybe job done already to be announced later?
Who knows?

All a bit odd thats all.
UTA.................


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Please read all the 70 previous posts before you contribute, then you would know he's not on holiday

mr punch wrote:
Argus need to change the headline to Poyets odds increased 2/5 now with Paddy Power and drifting.

punt clunderer wrote:
Here's hoping he does go..... and good riddance

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

tug509 wrote:

mr punch wrote:
Argus need to change the headline to Poyets odds increased 2/5 now with Paddy Power and drifting.

Your just a cupid stunt.

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Neville wrote:
According to Reading forums,Poyet in talks with Reading.

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
So if Gus is going no where, why dont the Brighton board come out now and quash the rumours? They just refused to comment...does this mean hes mulling it over???

saraman wrote:
For many a long hour I've been thinking on this. This is how I see it. Reading phone TB and ask for permission to speak to Gus. Considering Gus's nature, TB thinks to himself there is no mileage in saying no as Gus will be upset. TB also thinks to himself, no way will Gus want to leave The Albion and go to a relegated club. This is the gambler in TB coming through now. Finally TB thinks to himself if Gus wants to go to a relegated club with more money than sense then they will pay handsomely for his services and puts a price on Gus's head of £20m plus add-ons. It's a no brainer, Gus aint going to Reading, no way. Rest easy in your beds tonight my Seagull freinds. I've never felt so sure about anything as I do this.

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:
This is from the Befair website and seems a reasonable appraisal to me;

Gus Poyet and Reading links pose the question: are they more likely to be in the top tier next season than Brighton?

Reading's decision to sack Brian McDermott last Monday was attacked, not just because it was harsh after he lifted them into the Premier League - such ruthlessness is now expected - but due to the unlikelihood of attracting a quality replacement.

Whereas in January, there is time to refresh the squad with a new signing or two and weed out any negative influences, anyone recruited now is stuck with the mess that they inherits and has only eight matches to transform their fortunes. At least five of those may need to be won too.

With transfer market savvy and organisational prowess neutered, force of personality is arguably the greatest asset to inject in such circumstances. That perhaps explains how Paolo Di Canio, though hugely under-qualified after less than two years working in League Two and League One, came to feature so prominently in the early discussion, yet he has since drifted to 18.5.

The lack of appetising candidates or publicised interest in the eight days since McDermott's exit appears to vindicate the view that Reading's timing was out. However, the next manager market landscape was altered on Wednesday afternoon with Gus Poyet suddenly a 1.81 frontrunner.

Poyet is also fairly inexperienced after just over three years in charge of Brighton, but there is little faulting the work that he has done having topped League One in his first full season and guided them into serious play-off contention in his second at Championship level.

Despite that, he has minimal experience of motivating a struggling side - doomed if their 1.09 relegation odds are to be believed - beyond his terminated role as Tottenham assistant during their infamous "two points, eight games" start to 2008/09.

Even if he is the best available option, is it really in his best interests to take it? Reading are seven points from safety with eight fixtures left. Brighton are outside the play-offs on goal difference and nine points shy of automatic promotion with eight to play and a team already attuned to his ideas.

Given that he has been talked about as possessing an outside shot at the Chelsea job - admittedly mainly by Ray Wilkins - is it really worth risking his reputation when the chances of success are rated so slim? It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the answer is no.

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Premiership wages in the championship swallows up a lot of parachute payment. Add to that the FFP regulations mean there will be less money not more for Reading to spend next year. Couple that with inferior gates and lower revenues and all of a sudden, parachute payments are more of a necessity to survival than a nice little bonus for relegation.

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Premiership wages in the championship swallows up a lot of parachute payment. Add to that the FFP regulations mean there will be less money not more for Reading to spend next year. Couple that with inferior gates and lower revenues and all of a sudden, parachute payments are more of a necessity to survival than a nice little bonus for relegation.

FPP relates to expenditure related to income. Parachute payments are income so means you have more to spend not less. Get it?

saraman wrote:
For many a long hour I've been thinking on this. This is how I see it. Reading phone TB and ask for permission to speak to Gus. Considering Gus's nature, TB thinks to himself there is no mileage in saying no as Gus will be upset. TB also thinks to himself, no way will Gus want to leave The Albion and go to a relegated club. This is the gambler in TB coming through now. Finally TB thinks to himself if Gus wants to go to a relegated club with more money than sense then they will pay handsomely for his services and puts a price on Gus's head of £20m plus add-ons. It's a no brainer, Gus aint going to Reading, no way. Rest easy in your beds tonight my Seagull freinds. I've never felt so sure about anything as I do this.

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Premiership wages in the championship swallows up a lot of parachute payment. Add to that the FFP regulations mean there will be less money not more for Reading to spend next year. Couple that with inferior gates and lower revenues and all of a sudden, parachute payments are more of a necessity to survival than a nice little bonus for relegation.

FPP relates to expenditure related to income. Parachute payments are income so means you have more to spend not less. Get it?

FFP means the Russian Owner cant just pump money in willy nilly and the parachute payments will only cover the premiership wages. The reduced gates will mean less income at championship ticket prices. Get it??

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Premiership wages in the championship swallows up a lot of parachute payment. Add to that the FFP regulations mean there will be less money not more for Reading to spend next year. Couple that with inferior gates and lower revenues and all of a sudden, parachute payments are more of a necessity to survival than a nice little bonus for relegation.

FPP relates to expenditure related to income. Parachute payments are income so means you have more to spend not less. Get it?

FFP means the Russian Owner cant just pump money in willy nilly and the parachute payments will only cover the premiership wages. The reduced gates will mean less income at championship ticket prices. Get it??

You may be right my accountant friend. But before I concede can you tell me (1) the current Reading salary bill (2) the lengths of contract for each player (2) the parachute payments for the next 4 years (4) their current income from non Russian dosh and projections for the future in championship? As you may recall Albion were in deep doo doo. When they fell out of the old first division and were left with the wages of Stevie Foster and others to cover. But this was before parachute payments and I don't think you have taken on board the increase that is predicted for these next year in the light of the new satellite deals made with BT. So I repeat Reading will be a lot wealthier tan Albion.

Far gull wrote:
I tell you what I bet one thing is a dead cert ... This thread to carry most posts for the season so far . Any advance on 200 posts ? :-)

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:

saraman wrote: For many a long hour I've been thinking on this. This is how I see it. Reading phone TB and ask for permission to speak to Gus. Considering Gus's nature, TB thinks to himself there is no mileage in saying no as Gus will be upset. TB also thinks to himself, no way will Gus want to leave The Albion and go to a relegated club. This is the gambler in TB coming through now. Finally TB thinks to himself if Gus wants to go to a relegated club with more money than sense then they will pay handsomely for his services and puts a price on Gus's head of £20m plus add-ons. It's a no brainer, Gus aint going to Reading, no way. Rest easy in your beds tonight my Seagull freinds. I've never felt so sure about anything as I do this.

I tend to agree but you don't know for sure whether Gus can be swayed by a big cash prize, rather than a big club prize, so this is a pivital moment for us all to learn about Gus's motives. Cash or Glory ? He'll stay with BHA if he wants to prove a point and prove himself because he needs to show that he's won something other than a Lge One title,and he needs to show he can build a team that wins things at the higher level. Thats his steping stone to big club glory elsewhere. Or, he'll go to Reading because they'll pay him twice the dosh ! I'd bet he won't touch Reading, they'll be in the Championship next year and is that really and quicker of a stepping stone to get to Chelsea, Barca, Madrid etc...which is where he keeps verbally spouting his ambitions to be.

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Oh.. I checked again, he's only 1/2 now, and that Beef curry is actually chicken.

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

GovindaTim wrote:
Parachute Payments mean nothing. Blackburn got a parachute payment on relegation yet are 26.3m in debt and deep in the doo doo.

The new satellite television rights mean a probable parachute payments of c23 million. In your world that might mean nothing but to most football clubs that means big bucks. You could buy 10 CMS or 10 ulloa's for that. You could even pay WB for a season and have change for a pie.

Premiership wages in the championship swallows up a lot of parachute payment. Add to that the FFP regulations mean there will be less money not more for Reading to spend next year. Couple that with inferior gates and lower revenues and all of a sudden, parachute payments are more of a necessity to survival than a nice little bonus for relegation.

FPP relates to expenditure related to income. Parachute payments are income so means you have more to spend not less. Get it?

FFP means the Russian Owner cant just pump money in willy nilly and the parachute payments will only cover the premiership wages. The reduced gates will mean less income at championship ticket prices. Get it??

You may be right my accountant friend. But before I concede can you tell me (1) the current Reading salary bill (2) the lengths of contract for each player (2) the parachute payments for the next 4 years (4) their current income from non Russian dosh and projections for the future in championship? As you may recall Albion were in deep doo doo. When they fell out of the old first division and were left with the wages of Stevie Foster and others to cover. But this was before parachute payments and I don't think you have taken on board the increase that is predicted for these next year in the light of the new satellite deals made with BT. So I repeat Reading will be a lot wealthier tan Albion.

Their latest accounts are online, I have checked their debt level its greater than ours, their wages bill is approx. 4.5 times ours and the buy out was leveraged with additional off the books debt. Its all there to see online.

Neville wrote:
I think you will find he is competing in a legends football competition in Barbados, he does it every year,I think Zola is also competing.

tug509 wrote:

tug509 wrote:

mr punch wrote:
Argus need to change the headline to Poyets odds increased 2/5 now with Paddy Power and drifting.

Your just a cupid stunt.

I know full well i pushed the right key,i am sorry it came out as your quote Mr Punch,i hope you accept my(their) mistake. UTA

Neville wrote:
Barnes has signed for Reading lol

russellsnr2 wrote:
Now come on People Gus is in Barbados for one thing and one thing only!!
To bring us back a top class striker, thought all of you would have sussed that!!!!!!

Spike Milligan's old piano legs wrote:

Neville wrote:
Barnes has signed for Reading lol

Good riddance

pjwilk wrote:

russellsnr2 wrote:
Now come on People Gus is in Barbados for one thing and one thing only!!
To bring us back a top class striker, thought all of you would have sussed that!!!!!!

Is that a top class box of Barbados matches.

Sussex J wrote:
The Independent headline is now "Gus Poyet set for Reading job as Brighton take £2m pay off". It goes on to say that there is a willingness on both sides to get the deal done and only the finer details of the contract need to be finalised ahead of an announcement before the end of this week. Deeply disappointing if true.

gburbs wrote:
Barbados!! Lucy sod.

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I stick with my early post. It is a done deal. Agree Gus is not stupid but IS very hot headed as his past behaviour has shown.

Especially when things don't go his way - he has a history of chucking his toys out of the pram and I've been watching his demeanour change over these past months, particularly since Barber's appointment. Not sure about him.

He was one of the Directors responsible for firing Gus from Spurs so it would be hard to imagine there not being some kind of feelings from Gus around this.

One thing for sure if ALL the Board, not just Tony Bloom, thought as highly of Gus as many on this site do and Gus thought as highly of our club as all on this site do - this would be a non starter.

However, as we know, we ordinary supporters will never get ALL the truth about the goings on within the inner sanctum, and I just get the feeling that all may not be sweetness and light between Gus and others in the club.

The absence of a single comment on Twitter from all our local media tells me there maybe a 'local press embargo' around this story. Something often done to be fair to all the local media boys when there is a massive story.

If he does leave I for one will be grateful for what Gus has done but it's neither mature nor healthy to place anyone on such a high pedestal as some have placed Gus - and not fair on him either. So if he leaves lets ready ourselves to give his replacement ALL our backing and make sure we don't drop to the standards of Chelsea's mindless minority.

All will unfold tomorrow I would expect.

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I stick with my early post. It is a done deal. Agree Gus is not stupid but IS very hot headed as his past behaviour has shown.

Especially when things don't go his way - he has a history of chucking his toys out of the pram and I've been watching his demeanour change over these past months, particularly since Barber's appointment. Not sure about him.

He was one of the Directors responsible for firing Gus from Spurs so it would be hard to imagine there not being some kind of feelings from Gus around this.

One thing for sure if ALL the Board, not just Tony Bloom, thought as highly of Gus as many on this site do and Gus thought as highly of our club as all on this site do - this would be a non starter.

However, as we know, we ordinary supporters will never get ALL the truth about the goings on within the inner sanctum, and I just get the feeling that all may not be sweetness and light between Gus and others in the club.

The absence of a single comment on Twitter from all our local media tells me there maybe a 'local press embargo' around this story. Something often done to be fair to all the local media boys when there is a massive story.

If he does leave I for one will be grateful for what Gus has done but it's neither mature nor healthy to place anyone on such a high pedestal as some have placed Gus - and not fair on him either. So if he leaves lets ready ourselves to give his replacement ALL our backing and make sure we don't drop to the standards of Chelsea's mindless minority.

All will unfold tomorrow I would expect.

andyp123 wrote:

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I stick with my early post. It is a done deal. Agree Gus is not stupid but IS very hot headed as his past behaviour has shown.

Especially when things don't go his way - he has a history of chucking his toys out of the pram and I've been watching his demeanour change over these past months, particularly since Barber's appointment. Not sure about him.

He was one of the Directors responsible for firing Gus from Spurs so it would be hard to imagine there not being some kind of feelings from Gus around this.

One thing for sure if ALL the Board, not just Tony Bloom, thought as highly of Gus as many on this site do and Gus thought as highly of our club as all on this site do - this would be a non starter.

However, as we know, we ordinary supporters will never get ALL the truth about the goings on within the inner sanctum, and I just get the feeling that all may not be sweetness and light between Gus and others in the club.

The absence of a single comment on Twitter from all our local media tells me there maybe a 'local press embargo' around this story. Something often done to be fair to all the local media boys when there is a massive story.

If he does leave I for one will be grateful for what Gus has done but it's neither mature nor healthy to place anyone on such a high pedestal as some have placed Gus - and not fair on him either. So if he leaves lets ready ourselves to give his replacement ALL our backing and make sure we don't drop to the standards of Chelsea's mindless minority.

All will unfold tomorrow I would expect.

Best post on here; excellent .

mark by the sea wrote:

andyp123 wrote:

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
I stick with my early post. It is a done deal. Agree Gus is not stupid but IS very hot headed as his past behaviour has shown.

Especially when things don't go his way - he has a history of chucking his toys out of the pram and I've been watching his demeanour change over these past months, particularly since Barber's appointment. Not sure about him.

He was one of the Directors responsible for firing Gus from Spurs so it would be hard to imagine there not being some kind of feelings from Gus around this.

One thing for sure if ALL the Board, not just Tony Bloom, thought as highly of Gus as many on this site do and Gus thought as highly of our club as all on this site do - this would be a non starter.

However, as we know, we ordinary supporters will never get ALL the truth about the goings on within the inner sanctum, and I just get the feeling that all may not be sweetness and light between Gus and others in the club.

The absence of a single comment on Twitter from all our local media tells me there maybe a 'local press embargo' around this story. Something often done to be fair to all the local media boys when there is a massive story.

If he does leave I for one will be grateful for what Gus has done but it's neither mature nor healthy to place anyone on such a high pedestal as some have placed Gus - and not fair on him either. So if he leaves lets ready ourselves to give his replacement ALL our backing and make sure we don't drop to the standards of Chelsea's mindless minority.

All will unfold tomorrow I would expect.

Best post on here; excellent .

Press embargo? You mean they won't comment for what reason? The argus will never report anything to upset the club, without the Albion it would fold, no one cares about a kid who got stuck in a chair!

Alison Smith wrote:
It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

tug509 wrote:

Alison Smith wrote:
It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

If any of us posting on here changes our job,it does not effect tens of thousands of other people,or potentially cost in excess of 100 Million!!.

Alison Smith wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alison Smith wrote: It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

If any of us posting on here changes our job,it does not effect tens of thousands of other people,or potentially cost in excess of 100 Million!!.

Who wouldn't change jobs for a higher salary? Football managers have not been shown much respect by their employers recently......so this isn't very surprising.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Alison Smith wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alison Smith wrote: It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

If any of us posting on here changes our job,it does not effect tens of thousands of other people,or potentially cost in excess of 100 Million!!.

Who wouldn't change jobs for a higher salary? Football managers have not been shown much respect by their employers recently......so this isn't very surprising.

Quite right. And the financial package on offer here is probably at lottery levels.

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
IF it happens...then lets get DI Matteo in quick!!!

tug509 wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Alison Smith wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alison Smith wrote: It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

If any of us posting on here changes our job,it does not effect tens of thousands of other people,or potentially cost in excess of 100 Million!!.

Who wouldn't change jobs for a higher salary? Football managers have not been shown much respect by their employers recently......so this isn't very surprising.

Quite right. And the financial package on offer here is probably at lottery levels.

Football managers in general may not have been shown much respect recently,but Gus has definitely been accorded every possible respect from everyone at the Albion. He must surely know that promotion would bring more funds for players,a big personal bonus and a significant wage rise. If the Albion or Mr Bloom had in any way messed Gus about you would have a point,but again,he hasn`t been disrespected at any point. UTA

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Willie - no-one has confirmed ANYTHING yet, so that is pure speculation, just like the 174 posts above yours.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Alison Smith wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alison Smith wrote: It's his job, so he can change jobs if he wants to. No different to anyone posting on here.

If any of us posting on here changes our job,it does not effect tens of thousands of other people,or potentially cost in excess of 100 Million!!.

Who wouldn't change jobs for a higher salary? Football managers have not been shown much respect by their employers recently......so this isn't very surprising.

Quite right. And the financial package on offer here is probably at lottery levels.

Football managers in general may not have been shown much respect recently,but Gus has definitely been accorded every possible respect from everyone at the Albion. He must surely know that promotion would bring more funds for players,a big personal bonus and a significant wage rise. If the Albion or Mr Bloom had in any way messed Gus about you would have a point,but again,he hasn`t been disrespected at any point. UTA

I believe Gus is seriously considering this offer. By definition, that suggests he is weighing the points you suggest against the money on offer. If he'd rejected the approach out of hand, that to me would have demonstrated he possesses the idealism you refer to, Tug. He appears to have Albion over a barrel at the moment, so I'm not seeing too much respect and consideration for our club so far.