Albion suffer home shocker

The Argus: Jacob Mellis gets Barnsley's second goal Jacob Mellis gets Barnsley's second goal

Albion suffered their first defeat in seven games – and could have no complaints after a dreadfully below-par display.

The Seagulls were sunk 2-1 by bottom-of-the-table Barnsley at The Amex tonight.

Paddy McCourt put the Tykes – who had previously picked up just one point on the road this season - ahead in the 35th minute as they grew in confidence.

Jacob Mellis added a slickly worked second five minutes after the break.

Matt Upson headed home a corner on 63 minutes to get Albion back into the match.

But they could not stave off defeat.

Barnsley, under caretaker boss Micky Mellon following the sacking of David Flitcroft on Saturday, looked as tidy on the ball as any visiting side at The Amex this term.

They had just one escape in the first half when Jack Butland superbly tipped Craig Conway’s searing drive against the bar.

But McCourt responded by going past three defenders and swapping passes with Marcus Tudgay before opening the scoring.

Tudgay was also involved in the second goal as he played a return pass for Mellis to finish at the near post.

Butland somehow kept out a Buckley header before Upson headed home the resulting corner.

And the keeper stood firm late on to block Buckley’s shot in a one-on-one after Bruno had sent the substitute clear with a terrific long pass.

Arguably the biggest Albion plus of the night was an enjoyable midfield performance by fit-again Kemy Agustien as he came off the bench for the last third of the match.

But the Seagulls will need to improve on Saturday when they host Leicester, who remain top tonight despite a shock defeat of their own, at Sheffield Wednesday.

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11:33pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

As Rod Stewart once sang, "I don't wanna talk about it" So I'm not going to, think I'll kick the cat and go to bed.
As Rod Stewart once sang, "I don't wanna talk about it" So I'm not going to, think I'll kick the cat and go to bed. Alfie T

11:34pm Tue 3 Dec 13

SevenD says...

Woah Woah... listen guy/gals .. we are a wicked team and unfortunately cannot win every game. we played a very good/unlucky team tonight who had desire and passion to win off the bottom of the table. we should be proud in our transitional year. ie ..new manager ,new style that we are where we are.. I:m a realist and I love what we are doing with half the squad out.. come on Supporters give our boys some credit.. we are still a F**king great football team and I love what we/ Oscar is doing.. UTA .. Forever. Xx
Woah Woah... listen guy/gals .. we are a wicked team and unfortunately cannot win every game. we played a very good/unlucky team tonight who had desire and passion to win off the bottom of the table. we should be proud in our transitional year. ie ..new manager ,new style that we are where we are.. I:m a realist and I love what we are doing with half the squad out.. come on Supporters give our boys some credit.. we are still a F**king great football team and I love what we/ Oscar is doing.. UTA .. Forever. Xx SevenD

11:37pm Tue 3 Dec 13

brightman says...

Just back. That was grim. No pace, no ideas, no passion. Hopefully just a blip, we'll probably beat Leicester on Saturday now! And sorry to mention this as I know it's pointless, but how welcome would Vicente have been on that pitch tonight? Need KLL and Buckley back firing. You need pace and inventiveness and tonight we lacked it.
Just back. That was grim. No pace, no ideas, no passion. Hopefully just a blip, we'll probably beat Leicester on Saturday now! And sorry to mention this as I know it's pointless, but how welcome would Vicente have been on that pitch tonight? Need KLL and Buckley back firing. You need pace and inventiveness and tonight we lacked it. brightman

11:41pm Tue 3 Dec 13

i luv my dog says...

we are not a great football team only average, not many more players to come into the side and we are about four players short of being a good side. Tonight was the worst match I have seen in one and a half seasons so get get real.
we are not a great football team only average, not many more players to come into the side and we are about four players short of being a good side. Tonight was the worst match I have seen in one and a half seasons so get get real. i luv my dog

11:48pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Weploughandmow says...

We were ponderous, slow and lacked any urgency apart from a period of about five minutes after we scored (which was interrupted by the injury to the referee). A lacklustre start that played completely into Barnsley's hands and allowed them to grow into a game they should never have been in at all. We should've gone at them hard from the start, but instead we played in our half, across the back four, and let them play a high line that Barnes and David never looked like breaching. It's fine to play like that away at Wigan, QPR, Reading, with the hope to sneak a breakaway . . . but at home to BARNSLEY?? Please!! I came away as angry as I've ever been following a home defeat, and what's almost as bad is, I'm not sure that Oscar will be feeling the same. Shocking. Unacceptable. So many things wrong that should have been foreseen. The ONLY positive I saw was Bridcutt's performance - good to have him back. Other than that, words fail me.
We were ponderous, slow and lacked any urgency apart from a period of about five minutes after we scored (which was interrupted by the injury to the referee). A lacklustre start that played completely into Barnsley's hands and allowed them to grow into a game they should never have been in at all. We should've gone at them hard from the start, but instead we played in our half, across the back four, and let them play a high line that Barnes and David never looked like breaching. It's fine to play like that away at Wigan, QPR, Reading, with the hope to sneak a breakaway . . . but at home to BARNSLEY?? Please!! I came away as angry as I've ever been following a home defeat, and what's almost as bad is, I'm not sure that Oscar will be feeling the same. Shocking. Unacceptable. So many things wrong that should have been foreseen. The ONLY positive I saw was Bridcutt's performance - good to have him back. Other than that, words fail me. Weploughandmow

11:52pm Tue 3 Dec 13

The Phantom says...

Below average performance from an average team. Over achieved in terms of results in the last few weeks but disappointing to lose to a very moderate Barnsley side who were allowed too much soft possession. Improved after the goal and should have taken a point. No idea why Ince was not used atall this evening - has been one of the few highlights of the season to date.
Below average performance from an average team. Over achieved in terms of results in the last few weeks but disappointing to lose to a very moderate Barnsley side who were allowed too much soft possession. Improved after the goal and should have taken a point. No idea why Ince was not used atall this evening - has been one of the few highlights of the season to date. The Phantom

11:52pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Hector1872 says...

SevenD wrote:
Woah Woah... listen guy/gals .. we are a wicked team and unfortunately cannot win every game. we played a very good/unlucky team tonight who had desire and passion to win off the bottom of the table. we should be proud in our transitional year. ie ..new manager ,new style that we are where we are.. I:m a realist and I love what we are doing with half the squad out.. come on Supporters give our boys some credit.. we are still a F**king great football team and I love what we/ Oscar is doing.. UTA .. Forever. Xx
Errrr..............w
ere you at the match?!
Because there was no drive or passion or desire -I'm behind OG big-time but poor performances like the two first halves against Bournemouth and Barnsley are really not accepable and don't smack of being a 'great football team'!!
[quote][p][bold]SevenD[/bold] wrote: Woah Woah... listen guy/gals .. we are a wicked team and unfortunately cannot win every game. we played a very good/unlucky team tonight who had desire and passion to win off the bottom of the table. we should be proud in our transitional year. ie ..new manager ,new style that we are where we are.. I:m a realist and I love what we are doing with half the squad out.. come on Supporters give our boys some credit.. we are still a F**king great football team and I love what we/ Oscar is doing.. UTA .. Forever. Xx[/p][/quote]Errrr..............w ere you at the match?! Because there was no drive or passion or desire -I'm behind OG big-time but poor performances like the two first halves against Bournemouth and Barnsley are really not accepable and don't smack of being a 'great football team'!! Hector1872

11:54pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Newhavenles says...

Worst performance by B&HAFC at the Amex ever,don't know about hitting the ceiling, that looked more like hitting rock bottom.We don't have the players to play without a big striker,we've played rubbish without him and will do until he returns.The booing at half time and full time signaled the end of the honeymoon,now is the time for the club to make a statement of intent
Worst performance by B&HAFC at the Amex ever,don't know about hitting the ceiling, that looked more like hitting rock bottom.We don't have the players to play without a big striker,we've played rubbish without him and will do until he returns.The booing at half time and full time signaled the end of the honeymoon,now is the time for the club to make a statement of intent Newhavenles

12:00am Wed 4 Dec 13

Neville says...

Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita.
Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net.
The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down.
We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out.
From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this.
Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker. Neville

12:01am Wed 4 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

We played some good football second half and worthy of the applause at the end. Only 3 points from the play-off places and we should be fired up for Saturday and I would rather have 3 points off Leicester. Come the end of the season it could turn out to be a six pointer.
We played some good football second half and worthy of the applause at the end. Only 3 points from the play-off places and we should be fired up for Saturday and I would rather have 3 points off Leicester. Come the end of the season it could turn out to be a six pointer. championshipgull

12:05am Wed 4 Dec 13

raymondo999 says...

brightman wrote:
Just back. That was grim. No pace, no ideas, no passion. Hopefully just a blip, we'll probably beat Leicester on Saturday now! And sorry to mention this as I know it's pointless, but how welcome would Vicente have been on that pitch tonight? Need KLL and Buckley back firing. You need pace and inventiveness and tonight we lacked it.
So right. A team full of midfielders that pass square and back all the time. No penetration, no pace. Without wingers no hope. Leroy on the bench until last 10 mins and even then no quick balls through to him. Useless. In the old days we would have let them know "what a load of rubbish". Can only get better
[quote][p][bold]brightman[/bold] wrote: Just back. That was grim. No pace, no ideas, no passion. Hopefully just a blip, we'll probably beat Leicester on Saturday now! And sorry to mention this as I know it's pointless, but how welcome would Vicente have been on that pitch tonight? Need KLL and Buckley back firing. You need pace and inventiveness and tonight we lacked it.[/p][/quote]So right. A team full of midfielders that pass square and back all the time. No penetration, no pace. Without wingers no hope. Leroy on the bench until last 10 mins and even then no quick balls through to him. Useless. In the old days we would have let them know "what a load of rubbish". Can only get better raymondo999

12:07am Wed 4 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat!
It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat! Ex-pat Arnie

12:15am Wed 4 Dec 13

raymondo999 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat!
And your point is?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat![/p][/quote]And your point is? raymondo999

12:16am Wed 4 Dec 13

raymondo999 says...

raymondo999 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat!
And your point is?
Or put another way. Play the ball not the man
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: It's amazing how it's an almost totally different bunch of contributors after a defeat![/p][/quote]And your point is?[/p][/quote]Or put another way. Play the ball not the man raymondo999

12:19am Wed 4 Dec 13

Vince says...

Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Totally agree that he picked the wrong team, and yes why does OG continue to pick the woeful Lopez?
We needed to grasp the initiative from the start, but our slow build up played right into their hands, and so they were encouraged to take the game to us and pushedfurther and further up the field. It was obvious by the half hour mark that Barnsley were totally winning the midfield battle, and about this time I said to my companions that OG needed to bolster the midfield as I could see them scoring. 4 minutes later they did just that.
Incredibly it took until after the 2nd goal went in, and Barnsley were pressing hard for a third, that he finally introduced Agustein. From the moment he came on, he oozed class, superb passes, great vision and we then became totally dominant. After we scored, it was only poor finishing that prevented an equaliser, but why oh why was Lita only brought on 10 minutes from the end? Why did he not play off of Barnes
instead of replacing him. We could have sacrificed Ward who was dreadful.

OG needs to be a lot more proactive in my opinion. The warning signs were there in the first half, but by the time he ponderously decided to do something about it - we were 0-2 down.

As we all said - TONIGHT OG LOST US THE GAME
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Totally agree that he picked the wrong team, and yes why does OG continue to pick the woeful Lopez? We needed to grasp the initiative from the start, but our slow build up played right into their hands, and so they were encouraged to take the game to us and pushedfurther and further up the field. It was obvious by the half hour mark that Barnsley were totally winning the midfield battle, and about this time I said to my companions that OG needed to bolster the midfield as I could see them scoring. 4 minutes later they did just that. Incredibly it took until after the 2nd goal went in, and Barnsley were pressing hard for a third, that he finally introduced Agustein. From the moment he came on, he oozed class, superb passes, great vision and we then became totally dominant. After we scored, it was only poor finishing that prevented an equaliser, but why oh why was Lita only brought on 10 minutes from the end? Why did he not play off of Barnes instead of replacing him. We could have sacrificed Ward who was dreadful. OG needs to be a lot more proactive in my opinion. The warning signs were there in the first half, but by the time he ponderously decided to do something about it - we were 0-2 down. As we all said - TONIGHT OG LOST US THE GAME Vince

12:26am Wed 4 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

Shocking.
Mid table if we're lucky. No pace (without LuaLua we have nobody with any speed), no ideas.
Worst of all, dreadfully negative tactics and team selection by trainee manager Oscar against the managerless bottom of the league side.
Only when Buckley came on we had any idea at all .. but what's the man doing on the bench in the first place!!!
Even worse, Leicester, top of the table, lost tonight. They don't lose 2 in a row. They will be extra hungry at the Amex on Saturday and we'll be lucky not to lose 3-0.
I won't depress myself any more by mentioning that 2 of the teams above us have a game in hand on us.
I know he's Spanish Mr Garcia but please, David Lopez is barely good enough for non league football let alone the Championship! Spare us his terrible performances.
27,000 high paying fans have been insulted tonight.
No way we would have lost tonight at home against a much weaker team if Pulis or McCarthy had been at the helm.
I've been calling for a proper manager all season. Tonight, I rest my case.
Where's Gus again??
________
Registered Argus football commenter
Shocking. Mid table if we're lucky. No pace (without LuaLua we have nobody with any speed), no ideas. Worst of all, dreadfully negative tactics and team selection by trainee manager Oscar against the managerless bottom of the league side. Only when Buckley came on we had any idea at all .. but what's the man doing on the bench in the first place!!! Even worse, Leicester, top of the table, lost tonight. They don't lose 2 in a row. They will be extra hungry at the Amex on Saturday and we'll be lucky not to lose 3-0. I won't depress myself any more by mentioning that 2 of the teams above us have a game in hand on us. I know he's Spanish Mr Garcia but please, David Lopez is barely good enough for non league football let alone the Championship! Spare us his terrible performances. 27,000 high paying fans have been insulted tonight. No way we would have lost tonight at home against a much weaker team if Pulis or McCarthy had been at the helm. I've been calling for a proper manager all season. Tonight, I rest my case. Where's Gus again?? ________ Registered Argus football commenter sussexram40

12:32am Wed 4 Dec 13

raymondo999 says...

Vince wrote:
Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Totally agree that he picked the wrong team, and yes why does OG continue to pick the woeful Lopez?
We needed to grasp the initiative from the start, but our slow build up played right into their hands, and so they were encouraged to take the game to us and pushedfurther and further up the field. It was obvious by the half hour mark that Barnsley were totally winning the midfield battle, and about this time I said to my companions that OG needed to bolster the midfield as I could see them scoring. 4 minutes later they did just that.
Incredibly it took until after the 2nd goal went in, and Barnsley were pressing hard for a third, that he finally introduced Agustein. From the moment he came on, he oozed class, superb passes, great vision and we then became totally dominant. After we scored, it was only poor finishing that prevented an equaliser, but why oh why was Lita only brought on 10 minutes from the end? Why did he not play off of Barnes
instead of replacing him. We could have sacrificed Ward who was dreadful.

OG needs to be a lot more proactive in my opinion. The warning signs were there in the first half, but by the time he ponderously decided to do something about it - we were 0-2 down.

As we all said - TONIGHT OG LOST US THE GAME
Sorry guys, you are too thoughtful. You say it like you see it. That's not welcome here. What we want to hear is UTA we are the greatest team on earth. We were unlucky. We will bounce back against Leicester. This is site for supporters not spectators.
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Totally agree that he picked the wrong team, and yes why does OG continue to pick the woeful Lopez? We needed to grasp the initiative from the start, but our slow build up played right into their hands, and so they were encouraged to take the game to us and pushedfurther and further up the field. It was obvious by the half hour mark that Barnsley were totally winning the midfield battle, and about this time I said to my companions that OG needed to bolster the midfield as I could see them scoring. 4 minutes later they did just that. Incredibly it took until after the 2nd goal went in, and Barnsley were pressing hard for a third, that he finally introduced Agustein. From the moment he came on, he oozed class, superb passes, great vision and we then became totally dominant. After we scored, it was only poor finishing that prevented an equaliser, but why oh why was Lita only brought on 10 minutes from the end? Why did he not play off of Barnes instead of replacing him. We could have sacrificed Ward who was dreadful. OG needs to be a lot more proactive in my opinion. The warning signs were there in the first half, but by the time he ponderously decided to do something about it - we were 0-2 down. As we all said - TONIGHT OG LOST US THE GAME[/p][/quote]Sorry guys, you are too thoughtful. You say it like you see it. That's not welcome here. What we want to hear is UTA we are the greatest team on earth. We were unlucky. We will bounce back against Leicester. This is site for supporters not spectators. raymondo999

12:53am Wed 4 Dec 13

Neville says...

Raymondo999
Spectators are supporters,to spectate you buy a ticket and in my case 2season tickets.. The manager says it how he sees it,so do fans. You need to get real.
Raymondo999 Spectators are supporters,to spectate you buy a ticket and in my case 2season tickets.. The manager says it how he sees it,so do fans. You need to get real. Neville

1:00am Wed 4 Dec 13

blueskiesfromnowon says...

Dreadful. I think this was a classic case of we'rejusttoogoodfory
ouitis. It seemed as though the team felt they could just come on and stand around for ninety minutes and the goals would just happen by magic. What do they teachthese boys at footballing school? You see this happening again and again in football. If bha want to get anywhere in this league they have to behave as though they want to win EVERY GAME. They are good enough and could beat most teams in the championship if they put their minds to it. A spell on the naughty step and a period of quiet reflection is in order.
Dreadful. I think this was a classic case of we'rejusttoogoodfory ouitis. It seemed as though the team felt they could just come on and stand around for ninety minutes and the goals would just happen by magic. What do they teachthese boys at footballing school? You see this happening again and again in football. If bha want to get anywhere in this league they have to behave as though they want to win EVERY GAME. They are good enough and could beat most teams in the championship if they put their minds to it. A spell on the naughty step and a period of quiet reflection is in order. blueskiesfromnowon

1:09am Wed 4 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita.
Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net.
The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down.
We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out.
From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this.
Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Completely agree.
Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not.
We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing.
I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not. We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing. I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway. Claude Back

1:34am Wed 4 Dec 13

Chi Gull says...

Actually, a Gus team would never have given Barnsley a sniff of that game. Under Gus, even a cautious below par performance would have probably given us a 1-0 or 2-0 win. Barnsley looked shaky at the start, but we just let them into the game and they grew in confidence as a result. I don't want to moan about the team selection as we don't know who was fit or suffering after Saturday's game. That team was good enough to beat Barnsley but just didn't perform for the first 60 mins. Gus would have been hopping up and down on the touchline sorting it out. We moved the ball far too slowly and it was all too predictable. When we hit it long, Barnes was often isolated and was having a bad game anyway. For me Conway was one of the few bright performances. Contrary to one of the previous posters I thought Ward did OK. Bruno was dire. We know it will be better on Saturday - so hopefully there will be a good atmosphere and some good performances, but very disappointing tonight.
Actually, a Gus team would never have given Barnsley a sniff of that game. Under Gus, even a cautious below par performance would have probably given us a 1-0 or 2-0 win. Barnsley looked shaky at the start, but we just let them into the game and they grew in confidence as a result. I don't want to moan about the team selection as we don't know who was fit or suffering after Saturday's game. That team was good enough to beat Barnsley but just didn't perform for the first 60 mins. Gus would have been hopping up and down on the touchline sorting it out. We moved the ball far too slowly and it was all too predictable. When we hit it long, Barnes was often isolated and was having a bad game anyway. For me Conway was one of the few bright performances. Contrary to one of the previous posters I thought Ward did OK. Bruno was dire. We know it will be better on Saturday - so hopefully there will be a good atmosphere and some good performances, but very disappointing tonight. Chi Gull

1:41am Wed 4 Dec 13

pte says...

There were good odds on Barnsley winning. Wonder if a few of our players placed a bet on a Barnsley win
There were good odds on Barnsley winning. Wonder if a few of our players placed a bet on a Barnsley win pte

2:25am Wed 4 Dec 13

Baldseagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita.
Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net.
The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down.
We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out.
From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this.
Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Completely agree.
Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not.
We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing.
I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.
You make me laugh Claude, mental assessment of football Management.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not. We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing. I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.[/p][/quote]You make me laugh Claude, mental assessment of football Management. Baldseagull

2:54am Wed 4 Dec 13

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

I feel angry tonight. Woeful performance that was far too cautious. If we want to win games consistently we have to be attack minded. We just let Barnsley come onto us tonight until oscar brought on agustein. We were about to go three nil down. The same thin effectively happened at Bournemouth and against millwall at home this season. Teams are going to come here and play a high line to try and repress our movement. Until we can respond with pace and quality we will always struggle with Ithis tactic. This was clear all last season as well and resulted in too many draws.

What is so frustrating is that with the right substitutions at the right times and the right selections the team is good enough. Jfc, is ineffective against a high line and can be lightweight on occasion. Lopez just goes missing for large parts of game foes have so good touch on occasion but is a passenger most of the time this season which is a double shame as he is top of the wage scale at £12,000 a week and I'm pleased we have only offered him a one year contract as Nothing like the player last year.

The game was crying out flor Ince and lita from that art but at least from half hour in but you just knew go was going to wait. Jose mourning with his substitutions e is not and concerningly I saw no passion from him tonight, although did from jones. I am worried go she's this season himself just as a transitional year and a learning curve for himself. I certainly don't believe his statement about rather wining than drawing from a few weeks back. And we he came he talks about stacking intent I have not really sen this and see very little change of style from the over cautious style from last year which means a very good squad underachieves.

I know in a 46 match season plus cup games you can't play high tempo every week. But today's performance was the worst I have seen since we moved to the Amex. Barnsley supporters were stunned themselves how easy it was and this us the first time I have seen us lose to Barnsley at home ever, watching every session since 1987.
I feel angry tonight. Woeful performance that was far too cautious. If we want to win games consistently we have to be attack minded. We just let Barnsley come onto us tonight until oscar brought on agustein. We were about to go three nil down. The same thin effectively happened at Bournemouth and against millwall at home this season. Teams are going to come here and play a high line to try and repress our movement. Until we can respond with pace and quality we will always struggle with Ithis tactic. This was clear all last season as well and resulted in too many draws. What is so frustrating is that with the right substitutions at the right times and the right selections the team is good enough. Jfc, is ineffective against a high line and can be lightweight on occasion. Lopez just goes missing for large parts of game foes have so good touch on occasion but is a passenger most of the time this season which is a double shame as he is top of the wage scale at £12,000 a week and I'm pleased we have only offered him a one year contract as Nothing like the player last year. The game was crying out flor Ince and lita from that art but at least from half hour in but you just knew go was going to wait. Jose mourning with his substitutions e is not and concerningly I saw no passion from him tonight, although did from jones. I am worried go she's this season himself just as a transitional year and a learning curve for himself. I certainly don't believe his statement about rather wining than drawing from a few weeks back. And we he came he talks about stacking intent I have not really sen this and see very little change of style from the over cautious style from last year which means a very good squad underachieves. I know in a 46 match season plus cup games you can't play high tempo every week. But today's performance was the worst I have seen since we moved to the Amex. Barnsley supporters were stunned themselves how easy it was and this us the first time I have seen us lose to Barnsley at home ever, watching every session since 1987. EastWorthingExocetMissile

3:47am Wed 4 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

I do so love it when so many people with coaching badges take the time to offer their guidance after defeat.
I do so love it when so many people with coaching badges take the time to offer their guidance after defeat. Albion In Staffs

8:33am Wed 4 Dec 13

Far gull says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Actually, a Gus team would never have given Barnsley a sniff of that game. Under Gus, even a cautious below par performance would have probably given us a 1-0 or 2-0 win. Barnsley looked shaky at the start, but we just let them into the game and they grew in confidence as a result. I don't want to moan about the team selection as we don't know who was fit or suffering after Saturday's game. That team was good enough to beat Barnsley but just didn't perform for the first 60 mins. Gus would have been hopping up and down on the touchline sorting it out. We moved the ball far too slowly and it was all too predictable. When we hit it long, Barnes was often isolated and was having a bad game anyway. For me Conway was one of the few bright performances. Contrary to one of the previous posters I thought Ward did OK. Bruno was dire. We know it will be better on Saturday - so hopefully there will be a good atmosphere and some good performances, but very disappointing tonight.
sadly agree right up to it will be better on saturday....don't count on it !! we have been poor for much of the season and its not all injuries to blame. Cms first touch was often poor for example can him being back have really improved things.
Much thought required by our leader Mr Bloom i feel.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Actually, a Gus team would never have given Barnsley a sniff of that game. Under Gus, even a cautious below par performance would have probably given us a 1-0 or 2-0 win. Barnsley looked shaky at the start, but we just let them into the game and they grew in confidence as a result. I don't want to moan about the team selection as we don't know who was fit or suffering after Saturday's game. That team was good enough to beat Barnsley but just didn't perform for the first 60 mins. Gus would have been hopping up and down on the touchline sorting it out. We moved the ball far too slowly and it was all too predictable. When we hit it long, Barnes was often isolated and was having a bad game anyway. For me Conway was one of the few bright performances. Contrary to one of the previous posters I thought Ward did OK. Bruno was dire. We know it will be better on Saturday - so hopefully there will be a good atmosphere and some good performances, but very disappointing tonight.[/p][/quote]sadly agree right up to it will be better on saturday....don't count on it !! we have been poor for much of the season and its not all injuries to blame. Cms first touch was often poor for example can him being back have really improved things. Much thought required by our leader Mr Bloom i feel. Far gull

8:56am Wed 4 Dec 13

dave from bexill says...

Claude Back wrote:
Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita.
Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net.
The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down.
We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out.
From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this.
Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Completely agree.
Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not.
We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing.
I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.
Two excellent posts, that tell it how it is
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not. We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing. I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.[/p][/quote]Two excellent posts, that tell it how it is dave from bexill

11:26am Wed 4 Dec 13

the taffster says...

for Christ sake....why is lopez on the park...he was useless...the back 2 of greer and upson always look like they have a mistake in them? why do we only start showing urg.ency when we are 2.0 down....also I thought the best player on the park was paddy McCourt...be good to see him in a brighton shirt....we will get stuffed against Leicester if we play like that...
for Christ sake....why is lopez on the park...he was useless...the back 2 of greer and upson always look like they have a mistake in them? why do we only start showing urg.ency when we are 2.0 down....also I thought the best player on the park was paddy McCourt...be good to see him in a brighton shirt....we will get stuffed against Leicester if we play like that... the taffster

11:29am Wed 4 Dec 13

wiltshire seagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
Neville wrote:
Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita.
Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net.
The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down.
We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out.
From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this.
Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm.
I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.
Completely agree.
Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not.
We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing.
I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.
Two excellent posts, that tell it how it is
Sorry, but I'm in full agreement with you guys and no of course I'm not a coach or Football Manager but I do love the Albion passionately so I feel qualified in that regard OK. I see it as simple logic in the same way as a game of Chess. Why sit back and let poor (allegedly) opposition ease into the game. Attack, attack and attack again! The complete opposite of what OG opted to do. I,m mostly a glass half full guy but this was dire fare for the Amex to serve up. Let,s have Barnsy AND Leroy up front together on Saturday if Leo,s not quite ready. We can always revert to stereotype if Leicester play as well as we know they can. What's to lose, can't be worse than last night, can it?
BTW, I hold my hand up as someone who was screaming to re-sign Spanish Dave, what a MUPPET (me, not SD) sigh.......Err UTA
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Was at the match last night and in my opinion OG picked the wrong team for this match. How he can justify continually playing Lopez,who has been woeful and totally lacking confidence is beyond me(he also had a wonderful chance in front of goal and chose to pass it out to the left wing). I think Ince (man of match last game) should have played along with Lita. Again we had possession but always in our own half,for goodness sake we are at home playing a team at the bottom of the league,without an away win and we should have gone for the jugular,as it was it took 20 mins for us to have our first shot. First half was a series of misplaced passes and we were given the runaround for a while before Barnsley waltzed the ball into the net. The best player on the park in my opinion was their number 42 Mc Court,we need to sign players like this. When Barnsley attacked us they did so in numbers and were prepared to take on our defenders hence the second goal.After that we could have been 3 or 4 down. We then seemed to get the bit between the teeth and scored but then woeful finishing and some excellent goalkeeping kept us out. From 30 mins out their keeper constantly time wasted and although the referee signalled to him several times why on earth didn’t he yellow card him,that would have stopped this abuse,but officials just seem reluctant to penalise this. Very very disappointed tonight and let down by poor performance,wrong team selection and lack of playing two forwards when needed.There were a few boos in the West stand at half time and I hope this doesn’t become the norm. I really hope OG picks an attacking team against Leicester,it seems he has the same mentality as Gus when it comes to playing only ones striker.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. Oscar is far too cautious, like Gus, and the team selection was an ominous portent of what would happen. We cannot play well with only one striker. Why cannot Oscar see it? I am not convinced about him anyway. All this 'He's doing a fantastic job against the odds' comments are not true. All he has had to do is pick the best eleven players we had who were not injured and he has not even been doing that. He hasn't had to buy or bought anyone and our style is still too pedestrian. Until he shows any skill in the transfer market (buying someone) how can he be classed as the great manager people on here make him out to be? He might be; he might not. We should have won at Bournemouth but for poor selection and substitution and our bad passing. I was looking at a DVD the other day of the season we had Byrne and Small playing up front under Barry Lloyd. What a fabulous pair they made and the passing was crisp and urgent with free flowing football...much better than anything seen under Gus or Oscar. Yes...really! Passing it around without any penetration is just a myth that masquerades as good football. It's not! (Unless you are Barcelona.) Only newcomers would say we have been playing good football. Yes, we have achieved some good results but I do not subscribe to the fallacy we play good football.... not yet anyway.[/p][/quote]Two excellent posts, that tell it how it is[/p][/quote]Sorry, but I'm in full agreement with you guys and no of course I'm not a coach or Football Manager but I do love the Albion passionately so I feel qualified in that regard OK. I see it as simple logic in the same way as a game of Chess. Why sit back and let poor (allegedly) opposition ease into the game. Attack, attack and attack again! The complete opposite of what OG opted to do. I,m mostly a glass half full guy but this was dire fare for the Amex to serve up. Let,s have Barnsy AND Leroy up front together on Saturday if Leo,s not quite ready. We can always revert to stereotype if Leicester play as well as we know they can. What's to lose, can't be worse than last night, can it? BTW, I hold my hand up as someone who was screaming to re-sign Spanish Dave, what a MUPPET (me, not SD) sigh.......Err UTA wiltshire seagull

12:29pm Wed 4 Dec 13

tonypulis says...

Unfortunately Mr Bloom, you chose the wrong manager. It should have been me. Even Big Sam couldn't cope with my tactical genius last night. Aerial bombardment is what you need. Barnsley were there for the taking but you couldn't cope with their superior technical skills.
Unfortunately Mr Bloom, you chose the wrong manager. It should have been me. Even Big Sam couldn't cope with my tactical genius last night. Aerial bombardment is what you need. Barnsley were there for the taking but you couldn't cope with their superior technical skills. tonypulis

5:19pm Wed 4 Dec 13

brightonup says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Shocking.
Mid table if we're lucky. No pace (without LuaLua we have nobody with any speed), no ideas.
Worst of all, dreadfully negative tactics and team selection by trainee manager Oscar against the managerless bottom of the league side.
Only when Buckley came on we had any idea at all .. but what's the man doing on the bench in the first place!!!
Even worse, Leicester, top of the table, lost tonight. They don't lose 2 in a row. They will be extra hungry at the Amex on Saturday and we'll be lucky not to lose 3-0.
I won't depress myself any more by mentioning that 2 of the teams above us have a game in hand on us.
I know he's Spanish Mr Garcia but please, David Lopez is barely good enough for non league football let alone the Championship! Spare us his terrible performances.
27,000 high paying fans have been insulted tonight.
No way we would have lost tonight at home against a much weaker team if Pulis or McCarthy had been at the helm.
I've been calling for a proper manager all season. Tonight, I rest my case.
Where's Gus again??
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[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Shocking. Mid table if we're lucky. No pace (without LuaLua we have nobody with any speed), no ideas. Worst of all, dreadfully negative tactics and team selection by trainee manager Oscar against the managerless bottom of the league side. Only when Buckley came on we had any idea at all .. but what's the man doing on the bench in the first place!!! Even worse, Leicester, top of the table, lost tonight. They don't lose 2 in a row. They will be extra hungry at the Amex on Saturday and we'll be lucky not to lose 3-0. I won't depress myself any more by mentioning that 2 of the teams above us have a game in hand on us. I know he's Spanish Mr Garcia but please, David Lopez is barely good enough for non league football let alone the Championship! Spare us his terrible performances. 27,000 high paying fans have been insulted tonight. No way we would have lost tonight at home against a much weaker team if Pulis or McCarthy had been at the helm. I've been calling for a proper manager all season. Tonight, I rest my case. Where's Gus again?? ________ Registered Argus football commenter[/p][/quote]This is a troll fishing. Do not bite. brightonup

9:03am Thu 5 Dec 13

SevenD says...

i luv my dog wrote:
we are not a great football team only average, not many more players to come into the side and we are about four players short of being a good side. Tonight was the worst match I have seen in one and a half seasons so get get real.
So what we had a bad game. ? In the context of realism you are asking £800,000 pound players to play like £5 million pound players and fans like yourself have the arshole when it does'nt go the way you like. YOU My friend need to get real. if you want perfection go and support Barcelona.
[quote][p][bold]i luv my dog[/bold] wrote: we are not a great football team only average, not many more players to come into the side and we are about four players short of being a good side. Tonight was the worst match I have seen in one and a half seasons so get get real.[/p][/quote]So what we had a bad game. ? In the context of realism you are asking £800,000 pound players to play like £5 million pound players and fans like yourself have the arshole when it does'nt go the way you like. YOU My friend need to get real. if you want perfection go and support Barcelona. SevenD

11:11am Thu 5 Dec 13

mikeymeager says...

Having read through all the Barnsley post match comments,their is a lot of sensible and constructive criticism to be had about team selection and lack of attacking flair.I do hope that some of this gets back Oscar Garcia otherwise how long will it be before the faithful fans start calling for a change in management?
Having read through all the Barnsley post match comments,their is a lot of sensible and constructive criticism to be had about team selection and lack of attacking flair.I do hope that some of this gets back Oscar Garcia otherwise how long will it be before the faithful fans start calling for a change in management? mikeymeager

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