Albion duo in race for awards

The Argus: Oscar Garcia Oscar Garcia

Oscar Garcia and Tomasz Kuszczak are in the running for monthly Sky Bet Football League awards.

Oscar has been shortlisted for the manager of the month prize for November.

Albion took ten points from four games, three of which were away from The Amex, during the month.

Their 1-0 success at Wigan particularly impressed the selection panel.

He is up against Dougie Freedman, Brian McDermott and Nigel Pearson.

Freedman led Bolton to three successive wins and dragged them out of the drop zone.

McDermott saw his Leeds side take nine points from a possible 12 while Pearson, at Leicester, finished the month on top of the table after three wins from four games.

Kuszczak is on the shortlist for the player of the month accolade.

The Seagulls goalkeeper conceded just two goals in four games and made some key saves, notably in the last minute at Wigan.

He goes up against Lloyd Dyer of Leicester, Ross McCormack of Leeds and Andre Wisdom of Derby.

Dyer scored against Watford and Millwall and created openings for others during the month.

McCormack was in irresistible form, scoring seven goals with his direct running and willingness to shoot. He followed up two fine finishes against Yeovil Town with all four Leeds goals in the 4-2 win at Charlton Athletic, including a sumptuous free-kick.

Wisdom, who is on loan to the Rams from Liverpool, combined some refreshing attacking play with solid defending for a side which conceded just two goals.

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8:21am Thu 5 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

I’m really starting to like Oscar he could become a world class manager and Tomasz is already a world class keeper
I’m really starting to like Oscar he could become a world class manager and Tomasz is already a world class keeper championshipgull

8:23am Thu 5 Dec 13

Clean Sheet says...

The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result!
The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result! Clean Sheet

8:31am Thu 5 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result!
Not at all. The Barnsley match was in December.
And after all the cr*p about his lack suitability after Tuesday (not necessarily from you) I'm delighted he's at least being recognised on a wider scale...
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result![/p][/quote]Not at all. The Barnsley match was in December. And after all the cr*p about his lack suitability after Tuesday (not necessarily from you) I'm delighted he's at least being recognised on a wider scale... Albion In Staffs

8:40am Thu 5 Dec 13

Piglet1 says...

It proves that some people can see the wood from the trees and not change their mind about the manager dependent upon the last kick of the ball. Sanity prevails.
It proves that some people can see the wood from the trees and not change their mind about the manager dependent upon the last kick of the ball. Sanity prevails. Piglet1

8:45am Thu 5 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result!
Not at all. The Barnsley match was in December.
And after all the cr*p about his lack suitability after Tuesday (not necessarily from you) I'm delighted he's at least being recognised on a wider scale...
Just re-read your original message and now realise i mis-read it. Apologies!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: The MoM award effect already kicked in with Tuesdays result![/p][/quote]Not at all. The Barnsley match was in December. And after all the cr*p about his lack suitability after Tuesday (not necessarily from you) I'm delighted he's at least being recognised on a wider scale...[/p][/quote]Just re-read your original message and now realise i mis-read it. Apologies! Albion In Staffs

9:42am Thu 5 Dec 13

Thewithdeanyears says...

If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time. Thewithdeanyears

9:59am Thu 5 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of!
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of! Alfie T

10:08am Thu 5 Dec 13

Peteinblack says...

Alfie T wrote:
Thewithdeanyears wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of!
LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard.

Genius response; I salute you.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of![/p][/quote]LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard. Genius response; I salute you. Peteinblack

10:37am Thu 5 Dec 13

Albion23 says...

We're on top form today lads. Its great when our manager / players get recognised for their efforts. Well done to them. Now lets look forward to the boys dusting themselves down & giving it a real go on Sat.

U.T.A.
We're on top form today lads. Its great when our manager / players get recognised for their efforts. Well done to them. Now lets look forward to the boys dusting themselves down & giving it a real go on Sat. U.T.A. Albion23

10:39am Thu 5 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

The manager award ALWAYS goes to the team scoring the most points. The panel don't actually 'select' anything. Only if the points are the same do they consider goals scored, conceded etc.
Therefore, based on the article above, if it is accurate, Oscar will win it as the closest the others came was 9 points.
Why do the media make out it is some sort of studious selection process, especially that idiot Kamara?
The manager award ALWAYS goes to the team scoring the most points. The panel don't actually 'select' anything. Only if the points are the same do they consider goals scored, conceded etc. Therefore, based on the article above, if it is accurate, Oscar will win it as the closest the others came was 9 points. Why do the media make out it is some sort of studious selection process, especially that idiot Kamara? Claude Back

10:55am Thu 5 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

Peteinblack wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Thewithdeanyears wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of!
LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard.

Genius response; I salute you.
Thanks Pete, sometimes a chuckle is what's needed on this site.
[quote][p][bold]Peteinblack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of![/p][/quote]LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard. Genius response; I salute you.[/p][/quote]Thanks Pete, sometimes a chuckle is what's needed on this site. Alfie T

10:56am Thu 5 Dec 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

Sod's law states that having lost to the bottom team on Tuesday we'll go out and beat the top team on Saturday. The unpredictability of the Championship makes it very interesting and this is why we turn up each week.
Remember we are the twelfth man and need to do our bit. So get cheering.UTA.
Sod's law states that having lost to the bottom team on Tuesday we'll go out and beat the top team on Saturday. The unpredictability of the Championship makes it very interesting and this is why we turn up each week. Remember we are the twelfth man and need to do our bit. So get cheering.UTA. Joel'sGrandad

11:19am Thu 5 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Sod's law states that having lost to the bottom team on Tuesday we'll go out and beat the top team on Saturday. The unpredictability of the Championship makes it very interesting and this is why we turn up each week.
Remember we are the twelfth man and need to do our bit. So get cheering.UTA.
Agree, funny old game Saint. The atmosphere was poor against Barnsley, perhaps that was down to the team selection, not much to get us off our seats. Let's hope for some adventure in the team that lines up Saturday and get our amazing stadium rocking!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Sod's law states that having lost to the bottom team on Tuesday we'll go out and beat the top team on Saturday. The unpredictability of the Championship makes it very interesting and this is why we turn up each week. Remember we are the twelfth man and need to do our bit. So get cheering.UTA.[/p][/quote]Agree, funny old game Saint. The atmosphere was poor against Barnsley, perhaps that was down to the team selection, not much to get us off our seats. Let's hope for some adventure in the team that lines up Saturday and get our amazing stadium rocking! Alfie T

12:57pm Thu 5 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Brighton and Leicester both suffered bad results, both lost by a goal to teams that one would have expected them to beat, both will be looking to gain redemption.
If Oscar sends out a team that plays well and gets a result it won't matter who is in the line up. One striker, two strikers and two wide players, and someone attacking from center midfield, or the same eleven as Tuesday night, it's the result we want, nothing else.
From day one Oscar has had to cope with a depleted squad, and then it just got worse but he guided us thru it. If we are in the top six come the new year he would deserve to be in the running for manager of the year, how we push on will then decide it.

Many on this forum are of the opinion that Oscar got his starting eleven wrong on Tuesday, that might be true and it might not be, but did those that he sent out play to a level that both he and the fans would have expected?
When the players failed to do what they have been doing over the last several matches, was that the fault of Oscar or the players? The man is in the running to get an award for the results of November, does that point to his decision making being good, or does it suggest that the lads played as expected and therefore his decision making was good. Too many managers get blamed for what the players do or don't do. Some lose their jobs because they have spent big but the results don't come, others don't spend and that too is seen as some sort of a failure, how can Oscar be judged on less than half a season and one home match blimp. We should look at the players and their role in Tuesday night's result far more than pointing the finger at Oscar.
If come the end of the season we end up outside the top ten, if the squad is fit and we continue to lose matches, that's when we can look at Oscar and ask why, you don't ask that question after a bad result at home.
Brighton and Leicester both suffered bad results, both lost by a goal to teams that one would have expected them to beat, both will be looking to gain redemption. If Oscar sends out a team that plays well and gets a result it won't matter who is in the line up. One striker, two strikers and two wide players, and someone attacking from center midfield, or the same eleven as Tuesday night, it's the result we want, nothing else. From day one Oscar has had to cope with a depleted squad, and then it just got worse but he guided us thru it. If we are in the top six come the new year he would deserve to be in the running for manager of the year, how we push on will then decide it. Many on this forum are of the opinion that Oscar got his starting eleven wrong on Tuesday, that might be true and it might not be, but did those that he sent out play to a level that both he and the fans would have expected? When the players failed to do what they have been doing over the last several matches, was that the fault of Oscar or the players? The man is in the running to get an award for the results of November, does that point to his decision making being good, or does it suggest that the lads played as expected and therefore his decision making was good. Too many managers get blamed for what the players do or don't do. Some lose their jobs because they have spent big but the results don't come, others don't spend and that too is seen as some sort of a failure, how can Oscar be judged on less than half a season and one home match blimp. We should look at the players and their role in Tuesday night's result far more than pointing the finger at Oscar. If come the end of the season we end up outside the top ten, if the squad is fit and we continue to lose matches, that's when we can look at Oscar and ask why, you don't ask that question after a bad result at home. VegasSeagull

1:02pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Thewithdeanyears says...

Alfie T wrote:
Thewithdeanyears wrote:
If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of!
We mustn't be afraid of change, if we are serious about our goals. A new broom sweeps clean and all that. We can find a job for Oscar to do, maybe he's good at making tea, scrubbing the toilets etc.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of![/p][/quote]We mustn't be afraid of change, if we are serious about our goals. A new broom sweeps clean and all that. We can find a job for Oscar to do, maybe he's good at making tea, scrubbing the toilets etc. Thewithdeanyears

1:59pm Thu 5 Dec 13

tonypulis says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
Thewithdeanyears is quite correct. As Palace fans, we know it takes skillful football and the desire to succeed that gets you to the land of milk and honey that is the premier league. However, staying there is another matter. Our tedious 'trench warfare' style of football will ensure we survive.
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]Thewithdeanyears is quite correct. As Palace fans, we know it takes skillful football and the desire to succeed that gets you to the land of milk and honey that is the premier league. However, staying there is another matter. Our tedious 'trench warfare' style of football will ensure we survive. tonypulis

2:01pm Thu 5 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Both awards will have been well deserved.

More importantly we MUST put the right line up out on saturday,Oscar got it totally wrong on tuesday. We should have been charged with cruelty ,for our thrashing of the worst side in the league,instead we played poorly with the wrong personel on the pitch,we played only one striker when two were needed,and our substitutions were made too late to make an effect. This cant happen against a decent side like Leicester. UTA
Both awards will have been well deserved. More importantly we MUST put the right line up out on saturday,Oscar got it totally wrong on tuesday. We should have been charged with cruelty ,for our thrashing of the worst side in the league,instead we played poorly with the wrong personel on the pitch,we played only one striker when two were needed,and our substitutions were made too late to make an effect. This cant happen against a decent side like Leicester. UTA tug509

2:04pm Thu 5 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
Good posting. Oscar will be ancient history next season. We need to bring the right man in to replace him though. An English manager with a lot of experience at this level.
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]Good posting. Oscar will be ancient history next season. We need to bring the right man in to replace him though. An English manager with a lot of experience at this level. sussexram40

3:19pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Neville says...

Hi Vegas.
I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes.
Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so.
Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to.
Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor.
For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve.
Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones.
I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing.
Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does.
Hi Vegas. I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes. Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so. Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to. Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor. For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve. Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones. I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing. Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does. Neville

3:31pm Thu 5 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

McCourt was the best player on the field so it was a surprise he was taken off. But by then Barnsley had done the jon and their boss was keen to kep what they had against a pretty spikeless Albion frontline.
McCourt was the best player on the field so it was a surprise he was taken off. But by then Barnsley had done the jon and their boss was keen to kep what they had against a pretty spikeless Albion frontline. sussexram40

3:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

One of Oscar's problems is his hangdog, dishevelled appearance. His body language isn't that of a winner. That must affect the players. He would benefit from some demeanour coaching.
One of Oscar's problems is his hangdog, dishevelled appearance. His body language isn't that of a winner. That must affect the players. He would benefit from some demeanour coaching. sussexram40

3:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas.
I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes.
Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so.
Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to.
Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor.
For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve.
Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones.
I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing.
Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does.
I wasn't there, so can't comment on how the players played, but Lopez played 65 minutes - it was JFC who came off at half time. Being substituted after more than an hour isn't in itself an admission that the selection was wrong.

I'm also not sure about playing both Ince and Bridcutt at the same time. Ince is a DM converted from central defence - I'm not sure how suited he is playing further up the pitch. And if we play two strikers, that leaves us light in central midfield, assuming we want to play two wide men. If LB, RI, LL and AB play, as you suggest, who would play on the side opposite to Conway? Would you be happy giving Buckley a start?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas. I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes. Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so. Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to. Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor. For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve. Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones. I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing. Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does.[/p][/quote]I wasn't there, so can't comment on how the players played, but Lopez played 65 minutes - it was JFC who came off at half time. Being substituted after more than an hour isn't in itself an admission that the selection was wrong. I'm also not sure about playing both Ince and Bridcutt at the same time. Ince is a DM converted from central defence - I'm not sure how suited he is playing further up the pitch. And if we play two strikers, that leaves us light in central midfield, assuming we want to play two wide men. If LB, RI, LL and AB play, as you suggest, who would play on the side opposite to Conway? Would you be happy giving Buckley a start? Ex-pat Arnie

3:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Neville says...

My guess it will be Ross McCormick and Nigel Pearson getting the awards.
My guess it will be Ross McCormick and Nigel Pearson getting the awards. Neville

3:34pm Thu 5 Dec 13

LesBerry says...

Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas. I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes. Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so. Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to. Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor. For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve. Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones. I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing. Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does.
If you were at the match and knew what you were talking about you would know Jake Forster-Caskey was substituted at half time not Lopez.. I do not entirely disagree with what you are saying BUT you are saying it with the benefit of hindsight rather than what you would have thought - I bet you wouldn't have been saying it if we had won.. and..why would you suggest now that playing one up front sends out the wrong message - so have we been sending out the wrong message for the last 2 and a bit seasons..that's how long we have been playing with a lone striker.. Had he played Ince & Bridcut together and we didn;t win he would have been slaughted for being too defensive..probably y you using your amazing powers of hindsight..
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas. I was at the match Tues night and firstly I believe the selection was wrong,Ince was mom previous match but doesn't keep the shirt and this is second time this has happened. Most of the other fans around me also felt the selection was negative,most thought Ince and Bridcutt should start and definitely to give Lita a full game with Barnes. Lopez has been v poor all season and most fans,(read the posts) cannot understand how he has been picked,currently he is not good enough to be on the bench. Lopez was substituted at half time,so OG knew he had made a mistake. Agustien coming on was an improvement but then he only gave Lita 10 mins or so. Against a bottom team with no away wins we pick a defensive minded as opposed to attacking team, one lone striker, sends out the wrong messages and it was 20 mins before we even had a shot. Barnsley started very nervously but of course their confidence then grew and they played well,or we allowed them to. Of all the players I thought Upson,Ward,Bridcutt and Conway played well,the rest were very poor. For the first time there were also a few groans and boos at half time,I hope this is not a sign of things to come if we don't improve. Also the bench looked a little lost and very little passion,even from Jones. I would like to see Lita given a full game this Saturday,but pretty sure he will come on v late if we are losing. Of all the players I have seen at The Amex so far the Barnsley player Paddy McCourt looked real class and would love us to try and bring him to the Amex, I know GP always made notes of opposing players,I wonder if OG does.[/p][/quote]If you were at the match and knew what you were talking about you would know Jake Forster-Caskey was substituted at half time not Lopez.. I do not entirely disagree with what you are saying BUT you are saying it with the benefit of hindsight rather than what you would have thought - I bet you wouldn't have been saying it if we had won.. and..why would you suggest now that playing one up front sends out the wrong message - so have we been sending out the wrong message for the last 2 and a bit seasons..that's how long we have been playing with a lone striker.. Had he played Ince & Bridcut together and we didn;t win he would have been slaughted for being too defensive..probably y you using your amazing powers of hindsight.. LesBerry

3:35pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

sussexram40 wrote:
One of Oscar's problems is his hangdog, dishevelled appearance. His body language isn't that of a winner. That must affect the players. He would benefit from some demeanour coaching.
Do you think the players keep looking over to OG and take their cue from his appearance? I'd prefer my manager looking like he was thinking about the game rather than jumping up and down like a hyperactive tw@t.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: One of Oscar's problems is his hangdog, dishevelled appearance. His body language isn't that of a winner. That must affect the players. He would benefit from some demeanour coaching.[/p][/quote]Do you think the players keep looking over to OG and take their cue from his appearance? I'd prefer my manager looking like he was thinking about the game rather than jumping up and down like a hyperactive tw@t. Ex-pat Arnie

3:36pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville wrote:
My guess it will be Ross McCormick and Nigel Pearson getting the awards.
I agree that TK probably won't win, but why Nigel Pearson?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: My guess it will be Ross McCormick and Nigel Pearson getting the awards.[/p][/quote]I agree that TK probably won't win, but why Nigel Pearson? Ex-pat Arnie

3:43pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Neville says...

Ex Pat Arnie,
Yes you are right Lopez was substituted after 60plus mins,he was so bad I thought he had come off already.
My starting line up against Barnsley would have been
TK,
BS,GG,MU,SW
CC,RI,LB,AC
AB,LL
With Ward and Bruno overlapping.
For Leicester I would go for the same but with Augustine replacing AC.
Subs,CA,IC,AC,WB,JFC with AO and LU if both fit. Otherwise KA & AelA
Ex Pat Arnie, Yes you are right Lopez was substituted after 60plus mins,he was so bad I thought he had come off already. My starting line up against Barnsley would have been TK, BS,GG,MU,SW CC,RI,LB,AC AB,LL With Ward and Bruno overlapping. For Leicester I would go for the same but with Augustine replacing AC. Subs,CA,IC,AC,WB,JFC with AO and LU if both fit. Otherwise KA & AelA Neville

3:46pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville wrote:
Ex Pat Arnie,
Yes you are right Lopez was substituted after 60plus mins,he was so bad I thought he had come off already.
My starting line up against Barnsley would have been
TK,
BS,GG,MU,SW
CC,RI,LB,AC
AB,LL
With Ward and Bruno overlapping.
For Leicester I would go for the same but with Augustine replacing AC.
Subs,CA,IC,AC,WB,JFC with AO and LU if both fit. Otherwise KA & AelA
Fair team, but I would worry that your Barnsley squad is lacking midfield creativity as well as width. Kemy would fix the former though, as you point out.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ex Pat Arnie, Yes you are right Lopez was substituted after 60plus mins,he was so bad I thought he had come off already. My starting line up against Barnsley would have been TK, BS,GG,MU,SW CC,RI,LB,AC AB,LL With Ward and Bruno overlapping. For Leicester I would go for the same but with Augustine replacing AC. Subs,CA,IC,AC,WB,JFC with AO and LU if both fit. Otherwise KA & AelA[/p][/quote]Fair team, but I would worry that your Barnsley squad is lacking midfield creativity as well as width. Kemy would fix the former though, as you point out. Ex-pat Arnie

3:50pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Neville says...

Attn Les Berry,keep your wig on.
Yes made a mistake it was JFC at half time,no big deal.
If you pick a home match against the current worst team in the league,who have no away wins and leak goals for fun,why would you choose to play only one striker,it should be horses for courses. Ince was MOM against Bournemouth,so why drop him,if he wasn't fit he would not have been on the bench.
Do you honestly think Lopez has been worth his place,OG has poor judgment on that one for me,just my opinion.
If we had gone with an attacking team and lost then no problem at least we would have tried to win. Some credit due to Barnsley as well.
Attn Les Berry,keep your wig on. Yes made a mistake it was JFC at half time,no big deal. If you pick a home match against the current worst team in the league,who have no away wins and leak goals for fun,why would you choose to play only one striker,it should be horses for courses. Ince was MOM against Bournemouth,so why drop him,if he wasn't fit he would not have been on the bench. Do you honestly think Lopez has been worth his place,OG has poor judgment on that one for me,just my opinion. If we had gone with an attacking team and lost then no problem at least we would have tried to win. Some credit due to Barnsley as well. Neville

3:53pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Neville says...

Ex Pat Arnie
The fact that Leicester have held top spot for a few weeks,just my opinion
Ex Pat Arnie The fact that Leicester have held top spot for a few weeks,just my opinion Neville

4:40pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville wrote:
Ex Pat Arnie
The fact that Leicester have held top spot for a few weeks,just my opinion
But it's Manager of the Month, not Manager of the Season Thus Far. IMO getting more points than Leics while playing three away matches makes it a no-brainer. but still, these things are always slightly random in nature!
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ex Pat Arnie The fact that Leicester have held top spot for a few weeks,just my opinion[/p][/quote]But it's Manager of the Month, not Manager of the Season Thus Far. IMO getting more points than Leics while playing three away matches makes it a no-brainer. but still, these things are always slightly random in nature! Ex-pat Arnie

8:45pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Baldseagull says...

Neville wrote:
Attn Les Berry,keep your wig on.
Yes made a mistake it was JFC at half time,no big deal.
If you pick a home match against the current worst team in the league,who have no away wins and leak goals for fun,why would you choose to play only one striker,it should be horses for courses. Ince was MOM against Bournemouth,so why drop him,if he wasn't fit he would not have been on the bench.
Do you honestly think Lopez has been worth his place,OG has poor judgment on that one for me,just my opinion.
If we had gone with an attacking team and lost then no problem at least we would have tried to win. Some credit due to Barnsley as well.
Ince did not finish the game at Bournemouth, due to cramp I believe so resting him was not a bad idea.
I am bemused by the idea that this was a negative line up, Bruno in for Calderon and Bridcutt in for Ince were the only changes from Bournemouth and Bidcutt for Ince the only change from the last home game against Blackburn, which we won 3-0.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Attn Les Berry,keep your wig on. Yes made a mistake it was JFC at half time,no big deal. If you pick a home match against the current worst team in the league,who have no away wins and leak goals for fun,why would you choose to play only one striker,it should be horses for courses. Ince was MOM against Bournemouth,so why drop him,if he wasn't fit he would not have been on the bench. Do you honestly think Lopez has been worth his place,OG has poor judgment on that one for me,just my opinion. If we had gone with an attacking team and lost then no problem at least we would have tried to win. Some credit due to Barnsley as well.[/p][/quote]Ince did not finish the game at Bournemouth, due to cramp I believe so resting him was not a bad idea. I am bemused by the idea that this was a negative line up, Bruno in for Calderon and Bridcutt in for Ince were the only changes from Bournemouth and Bidcutt for Ince the only change from the last home game against Blackburn, which we won 3-0. Baldseagull

9:21pm Thu 5 Dec 13

albion64 says...

Peteinblack wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Thewithdeanyears wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.
If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of!
LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard.

Genius response; I salute you.
Talking of crack and paper. He actually supports a team that matches his underpants. both have **** coloured stripes running through them. That's Palace of course.
[quote][p][bold]Peteinblack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: If anything we were quite lucky in most of those games which enabled the results to paper over the cracks of poor management and players. When our luck runs out we get found out as what happened on Tuesday. Oscar wears the look of a manager on borrowed time.[/p][/quote]If there's a crack that needs papering over, I suggest it's the one you talk out of![/p][/quote]LOL! I almost spat a mouthful of piping hot tea over my keyboard. Genius response; I salute you.[/p][/quote]Talking of crack and paper. He actually supports a team that matches his underpants. both have **** coloured stripes running through them. That's Palace of course. albion64

9:33pm Thu 5 Dec 13

ringtone says...

I think many fans are missing the point here.

Oscar is the head coach and is not the manager and never will be a good manager.

Tony we need a manager, owen coyle maybe, gary flitcroft possibly working in tandem with Oscar, showing him the ropes.

I think this is what we are missing.
I think many fans are missing the point here. Oscar is the head coach and is not the manager and never will be a good manager. Tony we need a manager, owen coyle maybe, gary flitcroft possibly working in tandem with Oscar, showing him the ropes. I think this is what we are missing. ringtone

10:17pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

Whether Oscar is the Head Coach or the Manager is neither here nor there.
He makes the decisions and carries the can.
The Albion is developing a certain style of play and this must continue and however much Messrs Holloway, Coyle or Flitcroft are felted they are not the answer. Oscar Garcia is. roll on Saturday. UTA
Whether Oscar is the Head Coach or the Manager is neither here nor there. He makes the decisions and carries the can. The Albion is developing a certain style of play and this must continue and however much Messrs Holloway, Coyle or Flitcroft are felted they are not the answer. Oscar Garcia is. roll on Saturday. UTA Joel'sGrandad

12:42pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ringtone says: "we need a manager" - but you've already got Pulis. Are you fed up with his long-ball game already?

It was never in doubt the award would go to OG, the team had a great November (it should really be 'Team of the Month', though).
Ringtone says: "we need a manager" - but you've already got Pulis. Are you fed up with his long-ball game already? It was never in doubt the award would go to OG, the team had a great November (it should really be 'Team of the Month', though). Ex-pat Arnie

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