Albion braced for Bridcutt departure

The Argus: Liam Bridcutt could say farewell to Albion fans next month Liam Bridcutt could say farewell to Albion fans next month

Albion are bracing themselves for the departure of Liam Bridcutt to the Premier League during the January transfer window.

Bridcutt is on course to link back up with his old boss Gus Poyet at Sunderland.

The rock-bottom Black Cats could face competition from other clubs in the lower half of the Premier League table for the Seagulls’ highly rated defensive midfielder.

Poyet is keen to land Bridcutt in an attempt to boost Sunderland’s survival hopes.

The competitive Lee Cattermole and Swansea loan signing Ki Sung-Yueng have both performed well for the Uruguayan in the holding role.

But Poyet is eager to sign another central midfielder familiar with his playing style who could settle in quickly once the transfer window opens.

A reported £2 million bid to lure Bridcutt away in January will fall short of Albion’s valuation of their player-of-the-season for the last two years.

Agreeing a fee could be a stumbling block, especially after Poyet’s acrimonious departure from Albion in the summer, but the Seagulls will not stand in the way of Bridcutt fulfilling his wish to play in the top flight providing the price is right.

Although losing him would be a blow, it would be cushioned by the emergence this season of Rohan Ince. Poyet’s successor Oscar Garcia also has the experience of Keith Andrews to call upon on loan from Bolton for the rest of the campaign.

Bridcutt, targeted by Crystal Palace in August, confirmed earlier this month his ambition to become a Premier League player. He also admitted it would be hard to turn an opportunity down.

Bridcutt’s wages would multiply with a switch to the Stadium of Light or another Premier League club.

Family considerations, coupled with Sunderland’s perilous position at the foot of the table, might persuade the Reading-born 24-year-old to stay further South if West Brom, Norwich, Aston Villa or Fulham - all clubs linked with him previously - rival Sunderland’s interest.

Bridcutt, back in the Albion side after hernia surgery, will skipper the team again at Charlton on Boxing Day if Gordon Greer (calf) is still sidelined and will then make his 150th appearance for the Seagulls at Blackpool on Sunday.

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6:05am Tue 24 Dec 13

taman says...

sunderland £4 million all others £3 million make gus pay
or have sunderland reached the cieling
sunderland £4 million all others £3 million make gus pay or have sunderland reached the cieling taman

7:12am Tue 24 Dec 13

Cory and Trevor says...

Good lad, Bridcutt, but i think he owes us his commitment this season for the time he's been in the Treatment room. But loyalty and football are antonymous terms so it'll be ciao ciao Liam and good luck to him with gobs**te Gus.

I'm more worried about that man from Argentina..
Good lad, Bridcutt, but i think he owes us his commitment this season for the time he's been in the Treatment room. But loyalty and football are antonymous terms so it'll be ciao ciao Liam and good luck to him with gobs**te Gus. I'm more worried about that man from Argentina.. Cory and Trevor

8:10am Tue 24 Dec 13

brighton bluenose says...

Yet again Naylor shows he hasn't got a clue what's happening at the Albion as this is just a story re-hashed from the Telegraph from yesterday mornings wires!
Barely a mention of Bridcutt on Sunderland Echo site and the only one I could see referred to securing Ki permanently with our PoTY as his understudy - Liam you have been warned!!
Yet again Naylor shows he hasn't got a clue what's happening at the Albion as this is just a story re-hashed from the Telegraph from yesterday mornings wires! Barely a mention of Bridcutt on Sunderland Echo site and the only one I could see referred to securing Ki permanently with our PoTY as his understudy - Liam you have been warned!! brighton bluenose

8:18am Tue 24 Dec 13

ringtone says...

This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away.

The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.
This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away. The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland. ringtone

8:21am Tue 24 Dec 13

Tonyuk175 says...

Really!!! Hope we keep him til at least end of season , hope by then we will be in prem
Really!!! Hope we keep him til at least end of season , hope by then we will be in prem Tonyuk175

8:26am Tue 24 Dec 13

kipper12 says...

2m would be an insult for briddo . albion should hold out for a lot more , especially from poyet !!!
its clear we are going to lose him so i really hope it to anywhere but sunderland.. or palarse !!! .. and if leo gets tapped up, then we really would be buggered....
UTA !!!
2m would be an insult for briddo . albion should hold out for a lot more , especially from poyet !!! its clear we are going to lose him so i really hope it to anywhere but sunderland.. or palarse !!! .. and if leo gets tapped up, then we really would be buggered.... UTA !!! kipper12

8:31am Tue 24 Dec 13

graham w says...

I will be really **** off if brighton let him go, as will most of brighton fans. he stabilises our football team, brighton shouldn't consider any offer under £10 million, give him a pay rise, and a promise of considering a move at end of season. Bridders we want you to gain promo with us..
I will be really **** off if brighton let him go, as will most of brighton fans. he stabilises our football team, brighton shouldn't consider any offer under £10 million, give him a pay rise, and a promise of considering a move at end of season. Bridders we want you to gain promo with us.. graham w

8:39am Tue 24 Dec 13

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Forget Keith Andrews-he's not the answer.If Liam leaves I think we have good enough cover without Andrews and a decent fee for Liam hopefully will enable us to buy Conway and another good striker.Also we were told that Oscar's players budget will be increased slightly so all in all let's stay positive!
Forget Keith Andrews-he's not the answer.If Liam leaves I think we have good enough cover without Andrews and a decent fee for Liam hopefully will enable us to buy Conway and another good striker.Also we were told that Oscar's players budget will be increased slightly so all in all let's stay positive! SeagullOverSelsey

8:46am Tue 24 Dec 13

SMF20 says...

I'll be seriously gutted when we lose this lad.

He has become such a big part of our club and starting 11 and leads from the front... A true professional in every sense.

I understand he wants to play in The Premiership and in my mind he certainly deserves too, I just wish he would see out this season 1st given that there is an outside chance we may get to the promised land ourselves.

What is a little frustrating is that Liam when he gave his interview mentioned he would like to get to the Premiership with the Albion... Given he gave that interview only a month ago and the fact that you can't get promoted before the end of the season, I am left wondering why he isn't staying until the season ends?

I'd very much like the board to show some ambition this January and keep all of our star men. If we then don't make the grade then so be it but at least we will have tried.

Here's hoping that the board stay strong

Uta
I'll be seriously gutted when we lose this lad. He has become such a big part of our club and starting 11 and leads from the front... A true professional in every sense. I understand he wants to play in The Premiership and in my mind he certainly deserves too, I just wish he would see out this season 1st given that there is an outside chance we may get to the promised land ourselves. What is a little frustrating is that Liam when he gave his interview mentioned he would like to get to the Premiership with the Albion... Given he gave that interview only a month ago and the fact that you can't get promoted before the end of the season, I am left wondering why he isn't staying until the season ends? I'd very much like the board to show some ambition this January and keep all of our star men. If we then don't make the grade then so be it but at least we will have tried. Here's hoping that the board stay strong Uta SMF20

8:51am Tue 24 Dec 13

fratsomrover says...

I think with the emergence of Ince this season, Liam's departure wont be as big a loss as some people think. A £3m - £4m boost to our playing budget will help us acquire a proven goalscorer to accompany Ulloa.
Also he should not be denied the opportunity of playing in The Prem if someone wants him. We at least owe him that although I'm not too sure if going to Sunderland will give him more than half a seasons Prem experience. He'd be better going somewhere else.
If I had to choose who to keep out of Ince and Liam, then I would have to go for Ince as I feel he has more potential, is bigger, stronger and faster and had done brilliantly for one so young and can only get better.
I think with the emergence of Ince this season, Liam's departure wont be as big a loss as some people think. A £3m - £4m boost to our playing budget will help us acquire a proven goalscorer to accompany Ulloa. Also he should not be denied the opportunity of playing in The Prem if someone wants him. We at least owe him that although I'm not too sure if going to Sunderland will give him more than half a seasons Prem experience. He'd be better going somewhere else. If I had to choose who to keep out of Ince and Liam, then I would have to go for Ince as I feel he has more potential, is bigger, stronger and faster and had done brilliantly for one so young and can only get better. fratsomrover

8:53am Tue 24 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

Nice bit of Christmas cheer!! NOT!!! If we were to sell him I think 2m should not be the price---we would need a lot more to replace him---I think it would be a bad move for him as he could well be playing back in the Championship next season. BUT some of our players are eventually going to move on. No loyalty in business these days!! Happy Xmas one and all
Nice bit of Christmas cheer!! NOT!!! If we were to sell him I think 2m should not be the price---we would need a lot more to replace him---I think it would be a bad move for him as he could well be playing back in the Championship next season. BUT some of our players are eventually going to move on. No loyalty in business these days!! Happy Xmas one and all mikeygit

8:55am Tue 24 Dec 13

Zamora25 says...

£5millon take or leave it Sunderland.
£5millon take or leave it Sunderland. Zamora25

8:58am Tue 24 Dec 13

lotsofducks says...

You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain!
You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain! lotsofducks

9:02am Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!!
Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors.
The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy .
More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance.
I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season?
Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.
This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!! Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors. The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy . More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance. I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season? Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left. mark by the sea

9:08am Tue 24 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

He's gone, sell him to another prem club, not Sunderland unless they are prepared to pay, watch TB perform now!
He's gone, sell him to another prem club, not Sunderland unless they are prepared to pay, watch TB perform now! Alfie T

9:24am Tue 24 Dec 13

Notters_Seagull says...

This is very much a non-story. Tony won't sell unless there is a serious offer.
This is very much a non-story. Tony won't sell unless there is a serious offer. Notters_Seagull

9:36am Tue 24 Dec 13

DidYouKnowDan says...

I'm more worked about ulloa , 8 prem teams need a striker
I'm more worked about ulloa , 8 prem teams need a striker DidYouKnowDan

9:38am Tue 24 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

mark by the sea wrote:
This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!!
Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors.
The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy .
More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance.
I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season?
Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.
That may be so re the shelf life, Mark, but we would need a new squad in the Prem. anyway so no real disadvantage is it?
Also, I think Ince will be better than Bridcutt and his consistency will develop the more he plays.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!! Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors. The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy . More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance. I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season? Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.[/p][/quote]That may be so re the shelf life, Mark, but we would need a new squad in the Prem. anyway so no real disadvantage is it? Also, I think Ince will be better than Bridcutt and his consistency will develop the more he plays. Claude Back

9:45am Tue 24 Dec 13

albion64 says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
Good lad, Bridcutt, but i think he owes us his commitment this season for the time he's been in the Treatment room. But loyalty and football are antonymous terms so it'll be ciao ciao Liam and good luck to him with gobs**te Gus.

I'm more worried about that man from Argentina..
I agree he owes the Albion his commitment. But football isn't like that unfortunately. If he goes to Gross Pooyet up north, then he wants his head testing Chances are he will be right back where he started.. If he goes, then surely he doesn't think we have a chance of going up anyway. It doesn't send a positive message to the fans. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: Good lad, Bridcutt, but i think he owes us his commitment this season for the time he's been in the Treatment room. But loyalty and football are antonymous terms so it'll be ciao ciao Liam and good luck to him with gobs**te Gus. I'm more worried about that man from Argentina..[/p][/quote]I agree he owes the Albion his commitment. But football isn't like that unfortunately. If he goes to Gross Pooyet up north, then he wants his head testing Chances are he will be right back where he started.. If he goes, then surely he doesn't think we have a chance of going up anyway. It doesn't send a positive message to the fans. UTA albion64

9:47am Tue 24 Dec 13

albion64 says...

ringtone wrote:
This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away.

The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.
Palarce 0-3 Newcastle
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away. The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.[/p][/quote]Palarce 0-3 Newcastle albion64

9:49am Tue 24 Dec 13

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

The point is that, to date, brighton have not lost a game yet when Ince and bridcutt are in the same side. This idea that one replaces the other mises the point of good we are with them both in the same side. Ince plays slightly forward than bridcutt and can charge forward. They are not like for like players. To lose that for 2 million quid seems almost churlish, as that sort of money will just get eaten up in players wages in no time.
The point is that, to date, brighton have not lost a game yet when Ince and bridcutt are in the same side. This idea that one replaces the other mises the point of good we are with them both in the same side. Ince plays slightly forward than bridcutt and can charge forward. They are not like for like players. To lose that for 2 million quid seems almost churlish, as that sort of money will just get eaten up in players wages in no time. EastWorthingExocetMissile

10:01am Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

Claude Back wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!!
Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors.
The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy .
More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance.
I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season?
Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.
That may be so re the shelf life, Mark, but we would need a new squad in the Prem. anyway so no real disadvantage is it?
Also, I think Ince will be better than Bridcutt and his consistency will develop the more he plays.
What premier league? This squad is middle table without bridcutt .
Ince is doing well but we seem to be signing players on there wage demands rather than ability. Qpr Leicester , Leeds forest reading will be in top 6 .. Which leaves us as the bridesmaids.
Let's see when Garcia is actually going to barca for some loans... As this squad is lacking three players to get close to promotion.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!! Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors. The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy . More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance. I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season? Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.[/p][/quote]That may be so re the shelf life, Mark, but we would need a new squad in the Prem. anyway so no real disadvantage is it? Also, I think Ince will be better than Bridcutt and his consistency will develop the more he plays.[/p][/quote]What premier league? This squad is middle table without bridcutt . Ince is doing well but we seem to be signing players on there wage demands rather than ability. Qpr Leicester , Leeds forest reading will be in top 6 .. Which leaves us as the bridesmaids. Let's see when Garcia is actually going to barca for some loans... As this squad is lacking three players to get close to promotion. mark by the sea

10:03am Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted. mark by the sea

10:04am Tue 24 Dec 13

i luv my dog says...

I thought this was common knowledge, Poyet was spouting on about getting Bridcutt at his leaving do.
I thought this was common knowledge, Poyet was spouting on about getting Bridcutt at his leaving do. i luv my dog

10:04am Tue 24 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

mark by the sea wrote:
This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!!
Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors.
The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy .
More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance.
I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season?
Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.
I remember your negative miserable posts when we were at the Withdean with no sign of investment or real chance of making the Amex a reality. Then TB came along with the finance and his love for the club to make our dreams come true, and remarkably you changed your tune and everything in the Albion garden was rosy.
Now you are back pre Amex with nothing to say other than negative whinges and digs at the club, just look at where we've come from and where we are going, try to look on the very bright side of supporting this fantastic clubHappy New Year. :-)
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: This has Paul camlin all over it, is the story about him leaving and what a massive loss he would be? Or more of a smoothing letter from the club!!! Deal is done I fear ... With a probable auction behind closed doors. The lad ince is not a replacement he lacks consistantcy . More worrying is the lack of quality coming in,man one of the signings this season has potential.... All have reached there ceiling of performance. I expect a loan signing from the prem to soften his loss, but in truth are we aiming for the stars? Or happy to take fans money each season? Look at the squad and realise its shelf life is 12 months left.[/p][/quote]I remember your negative miserable posts when we were at the Withdean with no sign of investment or real chance of making the Amex a reality. Then TB came along with the finance and his love for the club to make our dreams come true, and remarkably you changed your tune and everything in the Albion garden was rosy. Now you are back pre Amex with nothing to say other than negative whinges and digs at the club, just look at where we've come from and where we are going, try to look on the very bright side of supporting this fantastic clubHappy New Year. :-) Alfie T

10:08am Tue 24 Dec 13

Jonathan Mouette says...

This is just a question of agreeing a price - and Bridcutt being sold a package with a long term Premier League future. That rules out Sunderland - and a number of the other clubs mentioned. And the same applies to Leo U too. Oh well, we'll see who is really behind the negotiating table in the very near future and get an idea of the real commitment of the club at the same time.
This is just a question of agreeing a price - and Bridcutt being sold a package with a long term Premier League future. That rules out Sunderland - and a number of the other clubs mentioned. And the same applies to Leo U too. Oh well, we'll see who is really behind the negotiating table in the very near future and get an idea of the real commitment of the club at the same time. Jonathan Mouette

10:09am Tue 24 Dec 13

Ulloa19 says...

It is a great shame if Bridcutt leaves but he is premier league quality. Why doesn't he stay with us until the end of the season and if we don't get promotion then perhaps he would leave. We need to get as much money as possible for him like 4-5 million. At least we've got Ince!
It is a great shame if Bridcutt leaves but he is premier league quality. Why doesn't he stay with us until the end of the season and if we don't get promotion then perhaps he would leave. We need to get as much money as possible for him like 4-5 million. At least we've got Ince! Ulloa19

10:11am Tue 24 Dec 13

OldGull says...

A non story.
I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+
Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season.
A non story. I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+ Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season. OldGull

10:14am Tue 24 Dec 13

Ulloa19 says...

OldGull wrote:
A non story.
I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+
Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season.
You couldn't of said it better! Hopefully a non-story
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: A non story. I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+ Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season.[/p][/quote]You couldn't of said it better! Hopefully a non-story Ulloa19

10:27am Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

OldGull wrote:
A non story.
I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+
Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season.
Yes but clubs and managers are fighting for there futures! Auction has begun! And now is the time to get best price.. No players out of contract managers can get for free! If they want quality they have to pay!
2.7 million with 750k if they stay up I would think is going to be the figure.
We will sign Conway for 50k a loan player or two and finish about 8th
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: A non story. I would hope a january offer would not be considered unless it was for some serious money £5m+ Let's see where we are at the end of the season. If we are still in the championship then allow Liam to fulfill his ambitions and use the money for a concerted effort next season.[/p][/quote]Yes but clubs and managers are fighting for there futures! Auction has begun! And now is the time to get best price.. No players out of contract managers can get for free! If they want quality they have to pay! 2.7 million with 750k if they stay up I would think is going to be the figure. We will sign Conway for 50k a loan player or two and finish about 8th mark by the sea

10:31am Tue 24 Dec 13

Clean Sheet says...

There are always stories about Bridders, CMS, etc at this time of year. I am quite sanguine, as I have every faith in the Albion management. If Bridders goes he goes, we keep improving, and we will get to the holy grail sooner or later.
There are always stories about Bridders, CMS, etc at this time of year. I am quite sanguine, as I have every faith in the Albion management. If Bridders goes he goes, we keep improving, and we will get to the holy grail sooner or later. Clean Sheet

10:33am Tue 24 Dec 13

pjwilk says...

Why would Bridcutt go to Sunderland who look like they will be in the Championship next season,or we may even replace them if we get a decent goalscorer.
Why would Bridcutt go to Sunderland who look like they will be in the Championship next season,or we may even replace them if we get a decent goalscorer. pjwilk

10:41am Tue 24 Dec 13

Jimmy Langley says...

It may be inevitable that we lose Liam but please don't give him away! judging by the transfer fees which have been paid by Premier League clubs for pretty ordinary players we should ask for at least 3 times the amount suggested in this article and even then I would prefer to keep Liam than take the money. We gave Dean Saunders away; don't let's make the same mistake again.
It may be inevitable that we lose Liam but please don't give him away! judging by the transfer fees which have been paid by Premier League clubs for pretty ordinary players we should ask for at least 3 times the amount suggested in this article and even then I would prefer to keep Liam than take the money. We gave Dean Saunders away; don't let's make the same mistake again. Jimmy Langley

10:52am Tue 24 Dec 13

Steveg1958 says...

graham w wrote:
I will be really **** off if brighton let him go, as will most of brighton fans. he stabilises our football team, brighton shouldn't consider any offer under £10 million, give him a pay rise, and a promise of considering a move at end of season. Bridders we want you to gain promo with us..
exactly right, the guy is a Scottish international, and crucial to Albion if we have any ambition, £10M nothing less and ten loaned back for the remainder of the season. And why would he want to g to Sunderland anyway, he wants premier league next year not Championship !.
[quote][p][bold]graham w [/bold] wrote: I will be really **** off if brighton let him go, as will most of brighton fans. he stabilises our football team, brighton shouldn't consider any offer under £10 million, give him a pay rise, and a promise of considering a move at end of season. Bridders we want you to gain promo with us..[/p][/quote]exactly right, the guy is a Scottish international, and crucial to Albion if we have any ambition, £10M nothing less and ten loaned back for the remainder of the season. And why would he want to g to Sunderland anyway, he wants premier league next year not Championship !. Steveg1958

11:27am Tue 24 Dec 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

Liam should stay with the promise of a move to a pl club in the summer. That is if we don't make it. But I think we will. But we need Liam to do it.
Just show some patience, Liam. You don't want a relegation battle do you.
Promotion with us will be much more exciting. UTA
Liam should stay with the promise of a move to a pl club in the summer. That is if we don't make it. But I think we will. But we need Liam to do it. Just show some patience, Liam. You don't want a relegation battle do you. Promotion with us will be much more exciting. UTA Joel'sGrandad

11:45am Tue 24 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

pjwilk wrote:
Why would Bridcutt go to Sunderland who look like they will be in the Championship next season,or we may even replace them if we get a decent goalscorer.
If he gets a lot more money at Sunderland than here, he will go regardless.
Money doesn't talk...it swears (Bob Dylan).
Anyway, I think people are underestimating Gus and Sunderland. Whether you like him or not, he is a very good manger to get the results needed. He has made them better already and the defence a lot tighter. It's how he works. Get the defence tight and organised and look for the 1-0 wins. Just like Mourinho used to do and has now resorted to again judging by last night at Arsenal. With a few additions in January I believe Sunderland will stay up and defy the odds. I have put my money down on that.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Why would Bridcutt go to Sunderland who look like they will be in the Championship next season,or we may even replace them if we get a decent goalscorer.[/p][/quote]If he gets a lot more money at Sunderland than here, he will go regardless. Money doesn't talk...it swears (Bob Dylan). Anyway, I think people are underestimating Gus and Sunderland. Whether you like him or not, he is a very good manger to get the results needed. He has made them better already and the defence a lot tighter. It's how he works. Get the defence tight and organised and look for the 1-0 wins. Just like Mourinho used to do and has now resorted to again judging by last night at Arsenal. With a few additions in January I believe Sunderland will stay up and defy the odds. I have put my money down on that. Claude Back

11:47am Tue 24 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Manager, even.
Manager, even. Claude Back

12:00pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

This move has been a done deal for the last three months and I am sure the fee will put the club in a healthy position with regards to FFP etc. Lets hope some investment is made and we don't fall short of the play offs.
This move has been a done deal for the last three months and I am sure the fee will put the club in a healthy position with regards to FFP etc. Lets hope some investment is made and we don't fall short of the play offs. Neville

12:25pm Tue 24 Dec 13

StevieD says...

Why on earth would he want to go to any "odds on" relegation premier clubs when this or next season will hopefully see him in the prem' with a stable club like the Seagulls. If he gets a offer from a decent club, the price is right and he is fairly sure of getting first team football then good luck to him . Gus is going down. Bide your time man.
Why on earth would he want to go to any "odds on" relegation premier clubs when this or next season will hopefully see him in the prem' with a stable club like the Seagulls. If he gets a offer from a decent club, the price is right and he is fairly sure of getting first team football then good luck to him . Gus is going down. Bide your time man. StevieD

12:26pm Tue 24 Dec 13

lotsofducks says...

lotsofducks wrote:
You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain!
I guess "manger" may be appropriate at this time of year, but I MEANT "manager"
[quote][p][bold]lotsofducks[/bold] wrote: You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain![/p][/quote]I guess "manger" may be appropriate at this time of year, but I MEANT "manager" lotsofducks

1:10pm Tue 24 Dec 13

brightonup says...

albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away.

The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.
Palarce 0-3 Newcastle
Please..... don't bother!
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away. The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.[/p][/quote]Palarce 0-3 Newcastle[/p][/quote]Please..... don't bother! brightonup

1:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

I am not sure that Bridcutt, 'owes,' anything to Brighton, he has delivered big time during his career with us so I'm thinking the books are evenly balanced.

Bridcutt is a prem quality central defensive midfield player, we don't know that as he has never been tested. Bridders, at that level, is a good gamble for a prem club to take, 2 to 4 million is not like signing Zaha for 15 million, a deal that appears to have been crazy. I am not saying that the lad won't cut it at the top, but he, like Zaha, won't know until he tries.

Don't sell to Poyet, pure nonsense. We put a price tag on the lad and we sell to the club that is prepared to pay that price in cash, no matter who it is, just so long as it's a prem club and not a champ club looking for promotion.

We have Ince to replace Bridders, well yes we do but that lad is nowhere near the finished article yet, Andrews along side him in place of Bridcutt would be a sensible ploy. Give it a couple of seasons and I think Ince will eclipse Bridders, Ince will become a gem but right now he is a diamond that needs polishing, but polishing rough diamonds is Oscar's forte.

Selling Bridcutt will reduce our chance of promotion, I just don't see that. It is very rare that a defensive midfield player defines a club's season as he is just one part of a defensive unit. A single signing can get you promoted, a striker can do that, goals from midfield can also get the job done, as can the play makers, but putting the experienced Andrews in for Bidders to play along side Ince is not going to see our defensive wall collapse. Buying Conway could make a big difference to our chances of promotion.

If a realistic cash offer comes in for the lad we should sell, no way should we block his move to the prem as he has already repaid Brighton for giving him his chance and for developing him into the player he is today.
I am not sure that Bridcutt, 'owes,' anything to Brighton, he has delivered big time during his career with us so I'm thinking the books are evenly balanced. Bridcutt is a prem quality central defensive midfield player, we don't know that as he has never been tested. Bridders, at that level, is a good gamble for a prem club to take, 2 to 4 million is not like signing Zaha for 15 million, a deal that appears to have been crazy. I am not saying that the lad won't cut it at the top, but he, like Zaha, won't know until he tries. Don't sell to Poyet, pure nonsense. We put a price tag on the lad and we sell to the club that is prepared to pay that price in cash, no matter who it is, just so long as it's a prem club and not a champ club looking for promotion. We have Ince to replace Bridders, well yes we do but that lad is nowhere near the finished article yet, Andrews along side him in place of Bridcutt would be a sensible ploy. Give it a couple of seasons and I think Ince will eclipse Bridders, Ince will become a gem but right now he is a diamond that needs polishing, but polishing rough diamonds is Oscar's forte. Selling Bridcutt will reduce our chance of promotion, I just don't see that. It is very rare that a defensive midfield player defines a club's season as he is just one part of a defensive unit. A single signing can get you promoted, a striker can do that, goals from midfield can also get the job done, as can the play makers, but putting the experienced Andrews in for Bidders to play along side Ince is not going to see our defensive wall collapse. Buying Conway could make a big difference to our chances of promotion. If a realistic cash offer comes in for the lad we should sell, no way should we block his move to the prem as he has already repaid Brighton for giving him his chance and for developing him into the player he is today. VegasSeagull

1:50pm Tue 24 Dec 13

brighton bluenose says...

mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt! brighton bluenose

2:05pm Tue 24 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

The club will be letting supporters down if they sell Bridcutt for less than 4 million. If our former manager wants him for that price, fine. Bidcutt has served the club brilliantly but I do not think he is back to his best by any means. With the progression of Ince, I'm pretty sanguine about Bridcutt's departure.
The club will be letting supporters down if they sell Bridcutt for less than 4 million. If our former manager wants him for that price, fine. Bidcutt has served the club brilliantly but I do not think he is back to his best by any means. With the progression of Ince, I'm pretty sanguine about Bridcutt's departure. wiseman of hove

2:21pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Gee Jay says...

Look, forget football, this is business!
It was obvious Liam would be sold at the right price. We sold Crofts, Bennett and Noone and are we worse off as a result?
You cannot keep a player if they get a good offer from a Premiership outfit.
Liam's sale will finance another player or players, coming in.
Manchester United sold Beckham,Ronaldo and many others before their 'market price' dropped. All good business.
UTA!
Look, forget football, this is business! It was obvious Liam would be sold at the right price. We sold Crofts, Bennett and Noone and are we worse off as a result? You cannot keep a player if they get a good offer from a Premiership outfit. Liam's sale will finance another player or players, coming in. Manchester United sold Beckham,Ronaldo and many others before their 'market price' dropped. All good business. UTA! Gee Jay

2:24pm Tue 24 Dec 13

tooncgull says...

As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam.
ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays!
As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam. ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays! tooncgull

2:28pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side mark by the sea

2:35pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side[/p][/quote]How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured? VegasSeagull

3:01pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Falmer Wizard says...

Lets face it Bridcutt would have already left us if he had not been injuried,he wants Premiership football so we should not hold him back he should not sign for Sunderland because most likely they will be playing us in the Championship next season.
Lets face it Bridcutt would have already left us if he had not been injuried,he wants Premiership football so we should not hold him back he should not sign for Sunderland because most likely they will be playing us in the Championship next season. Falmer Wizard

3:16pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?
Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury..
Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side[/p][/quote]How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?[/p][/quote]Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury.. Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction. mark by the sea

4:36pm Tue 24 Dec 13

brighton bluenose says...

mark by the sea wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
I guess we will have to put your lack of logic and poor analysis of our defensive stats down to an early Christmas sherry or two!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side[/p][/quote]I guess we will have to put your lack of logic and poor analysis of our defensive stats down to an early Christmas sherry or two!! brighton bluenose

4:41pm Tue 24 Dec 13

brighton bluenose says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?
Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury..
Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction.
Why the continuous negativity?! Andrews is an international and Conway had just started getting into his stride - if you actually go to games you would have seen that and would know that most fans would like to seem him back in an Albion shirt!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side[/p][/quote]How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?[/p][/quote]Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury.. Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction.[/p][/quote]Why the continuous negativity?! Andrews is an international and Conway had just started getting into his stride - if you actually go to games you would have seen that and would know that most fans would like to seem him back in an Albion shirt!! brighton bluenose

4:59pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.
Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt!
We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side
How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?
Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury..
Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction.
Why the continuous negativity?! Andrews is an international and Conway had just started getting into his stride - if you actually go to games you would have seen that and would know that most fans would like to seem him back in an Albion shirt!!
Because we have signed 4-5 players since Gus departed, none up to really changing our fortunes, we are about to lose our best player , and where does that leave ulloa? Can he leave for the premiership when he wants?
TK ward, Barnes are out of contract ( ward loan ending) GG upson are over 34, our other defenders 33 and 32 elabd 31 ... We need to build for the premiership not mid table nothingness.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: We are not scoring enough goals to get promoted.[/p][/quote]Correct! But that is not because Bridcutt has been missing is it - which contradicts your aassertion that we are a mid-table team without him!! If Ulloa hadnt been injured and we had a better option than Barnes we may well have bee 3rd or 4th - and that's WITHOUT Bridcutt![/p][/quote]We are not scoring...AND WITHOUT BRIDCUTT WILL LET MORE IN! That makes brighton a mid table side[/p][/quote]How many goals did we concede whilst Bridcutt was out injured?[/p][/quote]Wait till ince gets injured, his record at Chelsea was one of injury after injury.. Selling your best players and replacing them with journeymen like Andrews / Conway on cheap wages won't take us in right direction.[/p][/quote]Why the continuous negativity?! Andrews is an international and Conway had just started getting into his stride - if you actually go to games you would have seen that and would know that most fans would like to seem him back in an Albion shirt!![/p][/quote]Because we have signed 4-5 players since Gus departed, none up to really changing our fortunes, we are about to lose our best player , and where does that leave ulloa? Can he leave for the premiership when he wants? TK ward, Barnes are out of contract ( ward loan ending) GG upson are over 34, our other defenders 33 and 32 elabd 31 ... We need to build for the premiership not mid table nothingness. mark by the sea

5:37pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Mark I agree with your suggestion that we need to look to bring in younger defenders, we need more pace for sure, but that we have, have served us well.
Would you not agree that the summer window is the one in which you look to strengthen the squad as a whole, is not the winter window more about tweaking and not rebuilding? The signings during Oscar's time in charge have been out of necessity and not our of choice, our injury list has been horrific.

I am not sure how we can hold onto Bridcutt if the lad gets offered a chance that he wants to take, even if, as you say, he is our best player. If we were to block his move do you not think that that decision would have an effect on the lad, does a player give his all when he is somewhere he doesn't want to be. I am not saying that Bridcutt would deliberately drop his standards, but that could be the result.

Ulloa's situation is different in so much that he is on a long term contract, and he doesn't have the, 'time served,' that Bridders has, he still, 'owes,' the club, for want of a better word. The length of his contract would make him an expensive buy and the club would rightly hold out for a big price, I think Ulloa would understand that, and the price might be too high for a move this season. Don't forget, it is reported that we have already turned down a 5 million offer for Ulloa.
Mark I agree with your suggestion that we need to look to bring in younger defenders, we need more pace for sure, but that we have, have served us well. Would you not agree that the summer window is the one in which you look to strengthen the squad as a whole, is not the winter window more about tweaking and not rebuilding? The signings during Oscar's time in charge have been out of necessity and not our of choice, our injury list has been horrific. I am not sure how we can hold onto Bridcutt if the lad gets offered a chance that he wants to take, even if, as you say, he is our best player. If we were to block his move do you not think that that decision would have an effect on the lad, does a player give his all when he is somewhere he doesn't want to be. I am not saying that Bridcutt would deliberately drop his standards, but that could be the result. Ulloa's situation is different in so much that he is on a long term contract, and he doesn't have the, 'time served,' that Bridders has, he still, 'owes,' the club, for want of a better word. The length of his contract would make him an expensive buy and the club would rightly hold out for a big price, I think Ulloa would understand that, and the price might be too high for a move this season. Don't forget, it is reported that we have already turned down a 5 million offer for Ulloa. VegasSeagull

5:40pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.
Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that. VegasSeagull

5:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

dave from bexill says...

Claude Back wrote:
Manager, even.
I liked manger better as it's appropriate for this time of year
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: Manager, even.[/p][/quote]I liked manger better as it's appropriate for this time of year dave from bexill

5:51pm Tue 24 Dec 13

wiltshire seagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Manager, even.
No, I think he meant minger? Stay until the end of the season, please Liam. Then I may give you permission to leave....
UTA...
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: Manager, even.[/p][/quote]No, I think he meant minger? Stay until the end of the season, please Liam. Then I may give you permission to leave.... UTA... wiltshire seagull

6:03pm Tue 24 Dec 13

dave from bexill says...

tooncgull wrote:
As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam.
ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays!
My wife from the the Haymarket, agrees entirely with your sentiment
[quote][p][bold]tooncgull[/bold] wrote: As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam. ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays![/p][/quote]My wife from the the Haymarket, agrees entirely with your sentiment dave from bexill

6:36pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.
I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.[/p][/quote]I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age. mark by the sea

7:20pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.
I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age.
Well Mark, as I said, IMHO, the signings were out of necessity and no of choice.
As far as the youth system to deliver players for the future, isn't that what that new facility is all about.

As to your question, 'where are we going,' I guess it depends on when one asks that question. I take the view that we are moving forward, the capital investment that has been made in the infra structure of the club over the last couple of years is immense. We started with the stadium, we then moved on to the new facility and we have the proposed hotel ect in the pipe line.
During the last few seasons we have also spent on players to maintain our position, promotion followed by 4th in the champ and who knows where at the end of this season.
Promotion would mean a big changes to the present squad, we all know that, but if we don't get promoted this year, we will get indicators as to what our ambitions are for next year. Oscar isn't working with, 'his,' squad, he has what he inherited plus a few players brought in to get us out of a fix cause by injuries.
Oscar will need to build the squad next year no matter what. If we don't go up the retained and let go lists will tell us something, they will point to what Oscar has in mind. The funds given to him for buying will indicate the boards ideas for next year should we still be in this division.
Mr. Bloom has invested heavily in the club and Mr. Barber has ensured that we will be FFP compliant, but more money is going to be needed if we don't go up but have real ambitions to next year.
25% of our squad will be past their sell by date come next year, that has to be dealt with. Another 25% may be ok as to age, but don't perform consistently well enough for the top two promotions places. I would hope that Oscar has enough financial resources to replace 50% of the current squad if we are still in this division, and that 50% does not include those that would go anyway because they are on loan.

My guess is that at some point a cash injection is going to be needed, either before we get promoted or soon after. I would not be surprised to hear that Mr. Bloom sells part of his stake in the club, new investors with places on the board. Brighton, as a business, is a very viable investment for those with money, there are few clubs at our level with the revenue streams that we have, and those streams are growing. It will not be long before we stand to make a profit, I doubt that there is another team in our division that can say the same.

So where are we going, well we are going forward, and when it all comes together we will go up. Given all that Oscar has had to deal with we are doing very well and promotion this year is still possible, but I am not sure that it has all come together just yet, that might not happen until Oscar has his squad.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.[/p][/quote]I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age.[/p][/quote]Well Mark, as I said, IMHO, the signings were out of necessity and no of choice. As far as the youth system to deliver players for the future, isn't that what that new facility is all about. As to your question, 'where are we going,' I guess it depends on when one asks that question. I take the view that we are moving forward, the capital investment that has been made in the infra structure of the club over the last couple of years is immense. We started with the stadium, we then moved on to the new facility and we have the proposed hotel ect in the pipe line. During the last few seasons we have also spent on players to maintain our position, promotion followed by 4th in the champ and who knows where at the end of this season. Promotion would mean a big changes to the present squad, we all know that, but if we don't get promoted this year, we will get indicators as to what our ambitions are for next year. Oscar isn't working with, 'his,' squad, he has what he inherited plus a few players brought in to get us out of a fix cause by injuries. Oscar will need to build the squad next year no matter what. If we don't go up the retained and let go lists will tell us something, they will point to what Oscar has in mind. The funds given to him for buying will indicate the boards ideas for next year should we still be in this division. Mr. Bloom has invested heavily in the club and Mr. Barber has ensured that we will be FFP compliant, but more money is going to be needed if we don't go up but have real ambitions to next year. 25% of our squad will be past their sell by date come next year, that has to be dealt with. Another 25% may be ok as to age, but don't perform consistently well enough for the top two promotions places. I would hope that Oscar has enough financial resources to replace 50% of the current squad if we are still in this division, and that 50% does not include those that would go anyway because they are on loan. My guess is that at some point a cash injection is going to be needed, either before we get promoted or soon after. I would not be surprised to hear that Mr. Bloom sells part of his stake in the club, new investors with places on the board. Brighton, as a business, is a very viable investment for those with money, there are few clubs at our level with the revenue streams that we have, and those streams are growing. It will not be long before we stand to make a profit, I doubt that there is another team in our division that can say the same. So where are we going, well we are going forward, and when it all comes together we will go up. Given all that Oscar has had to deal with we are doing very well and promotion this year is still possible, but I am not sure that it has all come together just yet, that might not happen until Oscar has his squad. VegasSeagull

7:41pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Cap'n Pugwash says...

albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away.

The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.
Palarce 0-3 Newcastle
Poor old Ringpiece-he is continually knocking one out whenever a new story appears on here that he can post on. Vinegar strokes when he posts first. The sad, lonely life of a Palarse fan.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away. The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.[/p][/quote]Palarce 0-3 Newcastle[/p][/quote]Poor old Ringpiece-he is continually knocking one out whenever a new story appears on here that he can post on. Vinegar strokes when he posts first. The sad, lonely life of a Palarse fan. Cap'n Pugwash

8:11pm Tue 24 Dec 13

ringtone says...

dave from bexill wrote:
tooncgull wrote:
As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam.
ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays!
My wife from the the Haymarket, agrees entirely with your sentiment
Go home, we dont care what you think
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tooncgull[/bold] wrote: As an exiled Geordie, and Brighton season ticket holder since the 90s, I'd rather see Bridcutt go ANYWHERE but the Mackams! Join The Dark Side at your peril, Liam. ANyway - he's not gone yet. Lets hope he stays![/p][/quote]My wife from the the Haymarket, agrees entirely with your sentiment[/p][/quote]Go home, we dont care what you think ringtone

8:17pm Tue 24 Dec 13

ringtone says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away.

The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.
Palarce 0-3 Newcastle
Poor old Ringpiece-he is continually knocking one out whenever a new story appears on here that he can post on. Vinegar strokes when he posts first. The sad, lonely life of a Palarse fan.
I wish i was a palace fan, believe me.

They have have had the better of us all my life, except when we won 3-0 at selhurst to send them down, but they where down already.

You are the saddo, only sad brighton fans, me included, spend our time on this site, happy new year.
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: This has come as a bit of a shock. I thought he was a life long fan of the Albion and would never consider a move away. The only reason might be he will be a lot closer to Bonny Scotland, the lads homeland.[/p][/quote]Palarce 0-3 Newcastle[/p][/quote]Poor old Ringpiece-he is continually knocking one out whenever a new story appears on here that he can post on. Vinegar strokes when he posts first. The sad, lonely life of a Palarse fan.[/p][/quote]I wish i was a palace fan, believe me. They have have had the better of us all my life, except when we won 3-0 at selhurst to send them down, but they where down already. You are the saddo, only sad brighton fans, me included, spend our time on this site, happy new year. ringtone

8:21pm Tue 24 Dec 13

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.
I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age.
Don't forget to mention also that we do seem to have players that are injury prone. Any news whether CMS or Hoskins will ever play again?

Any mid table team can go up via the play offs but but if we do it will be by accident rather than design and if we do go up we'll probably drop straight back down

Bridcutt will go but it won't be for peanuts. Teams like Sunderland will be keen to strengthen to avoid relegation so the best time to sell is now. That would provide funds to invest in the future (hopefully)
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark, something I forgot to say, if the best offer we get for Bridcutt is 2 million, he won't be going anywhere, even if it does upset him as that is not a realistic figure, and I would hope that Bridcutt and his agent would know that.[/p][/quote]I just feel we have signed players with little potential , if we had a youth system where we produced one a season then selling makes little difference...I just wonder where we are going? In my opinion backwards with massive players to be replaced due to age.[/p][/quote]Don't forget to mention also that we do seem to have players that are injury prone. Any news whether CMS or Hoskins will ever play again? Any mid table team can go up via the play offs but but if we do it will be by accident rather than design and if we do go up we'll probably drop straight back down Bridcutt will go but it won't be for peanuts. Teams like Sunderland will be keen to strengthen to avoid relegation so the best time to sell is now. That would provide funds to invest in the future (hopefully) pte

9:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

bha3072011 says...

If we were to be selling bridcutt then what we should do is this:

if he was going to sunderland or fulham then we should loan him out and if they stay up then they can buy him

or

if they go down and we go up then we shall keep him

or
if all teams are in the championship next year then he should be given a choice of where he wants to go
If we were to be selling bridcutt then what we should do is this: if he was going to sunderland or fulham then we should loan him out and if they stay up then they can buy him or if they go down and we go up then we shall keep him or if all teams are in the championship next year then he should be given a choice of where he wants to go bha3072011

9:41am Wed 25 Dec 13

brighton bluenose says...

Another one who's been at the sherry!
Bridcutt is contracted to us until June 2015 so we do not need to sell him now - I am sure that TB will say lets see how the season pans out and make a collective decision at the end of this term! This will keep player, club and fans happy too!
Another one who's been at the sherry! Bridcutt is contracted to us until June 2015 so we do not need to sell him now - I am sure that TB will say lets see how the season pans out and make a collective decision at the end of this term! This will keep player, club and fans happy too! brighton bluenose

10:49am Wed 25 Dec 13

JollyRoger says...

lotsofducks wrote:
You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain!
Couldn't agree more. He might get on well with Gus and Gus might want him but Sunderland are not 100% certain of staying up and any move to the Premiership could be short lived.

I'd love him to stay and may be get promotion with us but, if a bigger club than Sunderland came in for him then I think he'll be off.

Another thing Liam needs to think about is - even if he moves is he guaranteed a starting place each week. Can he bear to be on the bench or maybe not even in the staring lineup for a few months, when all he wants to do is play football each week?
[quote][p][bold]lotsofducks[/bold] wrote: You can totally understand why a top professional footballer would want to play in the top division. Liam's earned that. But he must be smart enough to realise that, if he goes to Sunderland, he'll be back playing in the Championship again next season, so it would hardly be a "step up" - more like being on the underground and trying to exit the station by going up the down escalator! Sunderland have a good manger but above him the club seems to be run by idiots. So, my advice to Liam is - don't take short term gain for long term pain![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. He might get on well with Gus and Gus might want him but Sunderland are not 100% certain of staying up and any move to the Premiership could be short lived. I'd love him to stay and may be get promotion with us but, if a bigger club than Sunderland came in for him then I think he'll be off. Another thing Liam needs to think about is - even if he moves is he guaranteed a starting place each week. Can he bear to be on the bench or maybe not even in the staring lineup for a few months, when all he wants to do is play football each week? JollyRoger

12:13pm Wed 25 Dec 13

pte says...

Any stay in the Premiership may be short lived but the wages won't! Besides Sunderland aren't relegated yet, one win and their position looks entirely different
Any stay in the Premiership may be short lived but the wages won't! Besides Sunderland aren't relegated yet, one win and their position looks entirely different pte

1:53pm Wed 25 Dec 13

AlanDuffy says...

If the player wants to go - and he's already said he wants to play in the Premiership - then £5m - not sure Sunderland is the right move as I think they'll be relegated this season, so it would only be about money if he went there. Can't blame the guy, I'd do the same - but might want to hang on till the end of the season and see where we finish, then make a move if we don't go up.
If the player wants to go - and he's already said he wants to play in the Premiership - then £5m - not sure Sunderland is the right move as I think they'll be relegated this season, so it would only be about money if he went there. Can't blame the guy, I'd do the same - but might want to hang on till the end of the season and see where we finish, then make a move if we don't go up. AlanDuffy

11:16am Thu 26 Dec 13

franckiep en france says...

Liam `May` like Gus, we know Gus likes Liam, Gus could well be out of a Job again soon>>Stay where you are more than just `liked` Liam>>Please.
Liam `May` like Gus, we know Gus likes Liam, Gus could well be out of a Job again soon>>Stay where you are more than just `liked` Liam>>Please. franckiep en france

3:48am Sat 28 Dec 13

Whitelion says...

Another non-story from the Argus and office-based journalist rather than old school John Vinnicombe for example.

You should be ashamed by the chinese-whisper type article.

Liam will remain part of the Premier team in waiting. ...better off reporting on Stoke's misfortunes at least you have an interest in them....
Another non-story from the Argus and office-based journalist rather than old school John Vinnicombe for example. You should be ashamed by the chinese-whisper type article. Liam will remain part of the Premier team in waiting. ...better off reporting on Stoke's misfortunes at least you have an interest in them.... Whitelion

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