January transfer watch (updated): Poyet swoops for Bridcutt and Buckley

The Argus: Liam Bridcutt, a target for his former manager Gus Poyet Liam Bridcutt, a target for his former manager Gus Poyet

Albion are staying tight-lipped over the futures of Liam Bridcutt and Will Buckley.

Former Albion boss Gus Poyet has swooped on the Seagulls with bids for Bridcutt and Buckley to aid Sunderland's Premier League relegation fight.

The Telegraph claims the Black Cats have made a £2.5 million offer for midfielder Bridcutt and around £1 million for winger Buckley, who is out for a month with a torn hamstring.

A spokesman for Albion said this morning there would be no official comment from the club but The Argus understands the figures reported are inaccurate in both cases and both bids are regarded as derisory. 

Poyet signed Bridcutt and Buckley players during his reign at Albion, which came to an acrimonious end last summer when he was sacked for gross misconduct.

Bridcutt's possible departure has been well documented. The Uruguayan's interest in Buckley is more surprising, although Poyet claimed last year the former Watford winger is better than Wilfried Zaha, who left Crystal Palace for Manchester United for £10 million.

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8:11am Tue 31 Dec 13

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Ince is the ideal replacement for Bridcutt and has greater potential as a player in my view. Buckley is talented but injury prone and inconsistent. Conway is a more effective and consistent player.
Ince is the ideal replacement for Bridcutt and has greater potential as a player in my view. Buckley is talented but injury prone and inconsistent. Conway is a more effective and consistent player. B rian Tawses left foot

8:18am Tue 31 Dec 13

Tonyuk175 says...

Be a shame to lose him but don't understand why we would consider selling so cheap!!! And why Sunderland when they have club captain clattermole and fans favorite In that position! But surely at today's prices he has to be near 10 million were only 8 off prem ......

Please someone tell me why so so cheap offers coming in .....

UTA
Be a shame to lose him but don't understand why we would consider selling so cheap!!! And why Sunderland when they have club captain clattermole and fans favorite In that position! But surely at today's prices he has to be near 10 million were only 8 off prem ...... Please someone tell me why so so cheap offers coming in ..... UTA Tonyuk175

8:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

Dolphin1901 says...

Insulting offer from Poyet. Bridcutt has been excellent and good luck to him if he goes. Ince played in the deep role for Blackpool game and was superb. Bridcutt prefers that role and looked a little uncomfortable at times further forward, Hope Buckley stays and develops his game further under Oscar.
Insulting offer from Poyet. Bridcutt has been excellent and good luck to him if he goes. Ince played in the deep role for Blackpool game and was superb. Bridcutt prefers that role and looked a little uncomfortable at times further forward, Hope Buckley stays and develops his game further under Oscar. Dolphin1901

8:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

saraman says...

Poyet can have the pair for £5m. That's £5m for Bridcutt and Buckley for free to get the injury prone man off the wage bill. We then buy Conway for £0.5-1m, and with Ince on the up and up we will be laughing.
Poyet can have the pair for £5m. That's £5m for Bridcutt and Buckley for free to get the injury prone man off the wage bill. We then buy Conway for £0.5-1m, and with Ince on the up and up we will be laughing. saraman

8:23am Tue 31 Dec 13

Tonyuk175 says...

Also were not skint, don't have to sell and didn't palarse sell their best asset and go up, then regret it.....

Hope bridcutt stays til end of season at least and see where we are then chooses where his future lies

Also 2.5 mil Gus don't take the P##s
Also were not skint, don't have to sell and didn't palarse sell their best asset and go up, then regret it..... Hope bridcutt stays til end of season at least and see where we are then chooses where his future lies Also 2.5 mil Gus don't take the P##s Tonyuk175

8:26am Tue 31 Dec 13

mrgull says...

£3.5mil for Buckley and Bridders....He's got to be having a senior moment,didn't we turn down that much for Bridders alone,not that long ago.I think Bridders WILL leave soon,but not for peanuts.To comply to the FFP we need money in before we can revitalize our club.Good players don't come cheap and we should remember that when other clubs make silly offers for our players
£3.5mil for Buckley and Bridders....He's got to be having a senior moment,didn't we turn down that much for Bridders alone,not that long ago.I think Bridders WILL leave soon,but not for peanuts.To comply to the FFP we need money in before we can revitalize our club.Good players don't come cheap and we should remember that when other clubs make silly offers for our players mrgull

8:35am Tue 31 Dec 13

SMF20 says...

Double the bid and perhaps....

I'd be very disappointed if we sold the 2 of them of a derisory 3.5
Double the bid and perhaps.... I'd be very disappointed if we sold the 2 of them of a derisory 3.5 SMF20

8:56am Tue 31 Dec 13

Aye Aye says...

I agree that we should not allow the cheap departure of either Bridcutt or Buckley but I'm not overly-concerned were they to leave the club for the right price. We've lost star players before and eventually moved on in our fortunes (Liam Bennett, Bobby Zamora et al). Provided we can command a sensible deal, I would see this as an opportunity to strengthen and for OG to develop his own squad. For me it would simply be a case of "the King is dead, long live the King" and I'm not remotely fazed by any of this speculation.
I agree that we should not allow the cheap departure of either Bridcutt or Buckley but I'm not overly-concerned were they to leave the club for the right price. We've lost star players before and eventually moved on in our fortunes (Liam Bennett, Bobby Zamora et al). Provided we can command a sensible deal, I would see this as an opportunity to strengthen and for OG to develop his own squad. For me it would simply be a case of "the King is dead, long live the King" and I'm not remotely fazed by any of this speculation. Aye Aye

8:58am Tue 31 Dec 13

Ringmer Rich says...

It would cost a lot more to replace Bridcutt and Buckley. The offer is a poor piece of business, which I can't see Bloom accepting. Between 6 and 10 million for the pair seems fair.
It would cost a lot more to replace Bridcutt and Buckley. The offer is a poor piece of business, which I can't see Bloom accepting. Between 6 and 10 million for the pair seems fair. Ringmer Rich

8:59am Tue 31 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

we will not sell for that derisory amount--bridders worth more than that. anyway Poyet is supposed to have no money available to him in Jan!!
we will not sell for that derisory amount--bridders worth more than that. anyway Poyet is supposed to have no money available to him in Jan!! mikeygit

9:06am Tue 31 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

if I were a Sunderland fan, I'd be underwhelmed by the prospect of two from Brighton and would be tempted to suggest Gus is preparing for the championship....
if I were a Sunderland fan, I'd be underwhelmed by the prospect of two from Brighton and would be tempted to suggest Gus is preparing for the championship.... Albion In Staffs

9:15am Tue 31 Dec 13

Uckfield Seagull says...

No player is bigger than the club, if Bridcutt and Buckley want to leave then let them go if not 100% commited I would rather play players who want to be with us, Ince will be a star of the future so no problems there and Buckley always injured so no great loss there, I trust OG and am sure we would replace with quality, yet to see the best of Kemy and hopefully get Conway, so the future is bright, the future is the Albion !!!
No player is bigger than the club, if Bridcutt and Buckley want to leave then let them go if not 100% commited I would rather play players who want to be with us, Ince will be a star of the future so no problems there and Buckley always injured so no great loss there, I trust OG and am sure we would replace with quality, yet to see the best of Kemy and hopefully get Conway, so the future is bright, the future is the Albion !!! Uckfield Seagull

9:16am Tue 31 Dec 13

Zamora25 says...

£3.5m joint bid? Come back with £10m Poyet or bugger off!
£3.5m joint bid? Come back with £10m Poyet or bugger off! Zamora25

9:19am Tue 31 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
No player is bigger than the club, if Bridcutt and Buckley want to leave then let them go if not 100% commited I would rather play players who want to be with us, Ince will be a star of the future so no problems there and Buckley always injured so no great loss there, I trust OG and am sure we would replace with quality, yet to see the best of Kemy and hopefully get Conway, so the future is bright, the future is the Albion !!!
fair play mate
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: No player is bigger than the club, if Bridcutt and Buckley want to leave then let them go if not 100% commited I would rather play players who want to be with us, Ince will be a star of the future so no problems there and Buckley always injured so no great loss there, I trust OG and am sure we would replace with quality, yet to see the best of Kemy and hopefully get Conway, so the future is bright, the future is the Albion !!![/p][/quote]fair play mate Albion In Staffs

9:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract? mark by the sea

9:36am Tue 31 Dec 13

Neville1973 says...

get lost Poyet.. £3,5m really.. you bought Buckley for £1m and you valued Bridders at £10m, didnt you? Assuming both players are interested come back with a sensible bid... let`s be honest you are more desperate than us! hopefully both players will realise that Sunderland are not worth it if they want a premiership move, let`s face even Palace are better placed than them!
get lost Poyet.. £3,5m really.. you bought Buckley for £1m and you valued Bridders at £10m, didnt you? Assuming both players are interested come back with a sensible bid... let`s be honest you are more desperate than us! hopefully both players will realise that Sunderland are not worth it if they want a premiership move, let`s face even Palace are better placed than them! Neville1973

9:37am Tue 31 Dec 13

Neville1973 says...

Poyet.. get lost! both of those bids are vastly under value.. Bridders whilst I truly believe he is a premiership player, I would wonder why anyone would want to spend just 5 months there, seems bizzare. Buckley is "Hamstring prone" but a good player, we should not sell any players unless we are planning on buying replacements. my understanding is that we have ambitions and "some" money, let`s not cave in to Premier league clubs. UTA
Poyet.. get lost! both of those bids are vastly under value.. Bridders whilst I truly believe he is a premiership player, I would wonder why anyone would want to spend just 5 months there, seems bizzare. Buckley is "Hamstring prone" but a good player, we should not sell any players unless we are planning on buying replacements. my understanding is that we have ambitions and "some" money, let`s not cave in to Premier league clubs. UTA Neville1973

9:39am Tue 31 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
I think you've used GP's abacus in assessing Conway's value! I reckon they'd want more than double that - at least. It'll be the old game of "how badly do you need him?" which will continue for a few weeks until someone blinks. And if we get money in, Cardiff will smell it coming..
As for Buckley's injury, a short term issue that goes away well in time for him to make an impact..... or not.
But. I just wonder if part of this is actually all about Gus chucking it quietly out to the media to p*ss TB & the club off and de-stabilise us out of sheer spite at a crucial time?
No specific evidence too support that, just a thought.....
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract?[/p][/quote]I think you've used GP's abacus in assessing Conway's value! I reckon they'd want more than double that - at least. It'll be the old game of "how badly do you need him?" which will continue for a few weeks until someone blinks. And if we get money in, Cardiff will smell it coming.. As for Buckley's injury, a short term issue that goes away well in time for him to make an impact..... or not. But. I just wonder if part of this is actually all about Gus chucking it quietly out to the media to p*ss TB & the club off and de-stabilise us out of sheer spite at a crucial time? No specific evidence too support that, just a thought..... Albion In Staffs

9:43am Tue 31 Dec 13

TheWerewolf says...

The players we need to keep are Upson and Ulloa. If Bridcutt were to go the only consideration is the price. If he is true Prem quality he must be worth nearer £5m. If not Poyet's preparing to get relegated. Ince can fill that hole.
Buckley would be a disappointment but I think he is replaceable, again at the right price. £1m is derisory. £2.5-3m more like it. We could then get Conway back and have change to strengthen the squad. We are in a great place to push into 2014....can't wait!
The players we need to keep are Upson and Ulloa. If Bridcutt were to go the only consideration is the price. If he is true Prem quality he must be worth nearer £5m. If not Poyet's preparing to get relegated. Ince can fill that hole. Buckley would be a disappointment but I think he is replaceable, again at the right price. £1m is derisory. £2.5-3m more like it. We could then get Conway back and have change to strengthen the squad. We are in a great place to push into 2014....can't wait! TheWerewolf

9:46am Tue 31 Dec 13

wiltshire seagull says...

Ringmer Rich wrote:
It would cost a lot more to replace Bridcutt and Buckley. The offer is a poor piece of business, which I can't see Bloom accepting. Between 6 and 10 million for the pair seems fair.
Yes, I agree but it's all the usual media speculation at this time of the year with very few hard facts? I think Liam will go which saddens me but he has ambitions and the quality to achieve them. At least we have a excellent player in RI to replace him should he leave. Not sure about WB tho' he does seem to drift in and out of games too much for me and is a bit of a sick-note, IMHO of course!!
UTA and three points tomorrow please guys. Oh and HNY to everyone even Ringtone......
[quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: It would cost a lot more to replace Bridcutt and Buckley. The offer is a poor piece of business, which I can't see Bloom accepting. Between 6 and 10 million for the pair seems fair.[/p][/quote]Yes, I agree but it's all the usual media speculation at this time of the year with very few hard facts? I think Liam will go which saddens me but he has ambitions and the quality to achieve them. At least we have a excellent player in RI to replace him should he leave. Not sure about WB tho' he does seem to drift in and out of games too much for me and is a bit of a sick-note, IMHO of course!! UTA and three points tomorrow please guys. Oh and HNY to everyone even Ringtone...... wiltshire seagull

9:48am Tue 31 Dec 13

hannover seagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
I agree Mark,
the Buckley situation does not make sense
Surely he will have to pass a medical to validate a contract and if he is out for
all of January lets say,the window will be closed by the time he is fit.
Or can you sign injured players? I´m confused
Anyway, a record crowd expected for B´mouth
UTA....
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract?[/p][/quote]I agree Mark, the Buckley situation does not make sense Surely he will have to pass a medical to validate a contract and if he is out for all of January lets say,the window will be closed by the time he is fit. Or can you sign injured players? I´m confused Anyway, a record crowd expected for B´mouth UTA.... hannover seagull

9:49am Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Don't get excited, people.
1) This is just paper talk.
2) If there is any truth in the rumour then these bids are only opening skirmishes. Nobody ever accepts a first bid, do they (unless it was more than the player is worth)?
3) We don't need Bridcutt when we have Ince as a potentially better replacement. We still won or drew our matches without Bridcutt didn't we?
4) I cannot see Gus wanting a hamstrung Buckley and no sale will go through while he is out for a month injured. By then the transfer window will be closed. If Buckers does go then, as much as I like him, we won't miss him as much as we would a player that actually plays more games. He was the same at Watford and as he ages will always be prone to more injury. KLL can fill in or Orlandi who really is more valuable to us.
Don't get excited, people. 1) This is just paper talk. 2) If there is any truth in the rumour then these bids are only opening skirmishes. Nobody ever accepts a first bid, do they (unless it was more than the player is worth)? 3) We don't need Bridcutt when we have Ince as a potentially better replacement. We still won or drew our matches without Bridcutt didn't we? 4) I cannot see Gus wanting a hamstrung Buckley and no sale will go through while he is out for a month injured. By then the transfer window will be closed. If Buckers does go then, as much as I like him, we won't miss him as much as we would a player that actually plays more games. He was the same at Watford and as he ages will always be prone to more injury. KLL can fill in or Orlandi who really is more valuable to us. Claude Back

9:50am Tue 31 Dec 13

Clean Sheet says...

GP stated that Buckley is worth more than Zaha. Well the price has been set then surely?
GP stated that Buckley is worth more than Zaha. Well the price has been set then surely? Clean Sheet

9:52am Tue 31 Dec 13

Ulloa19 says...

It won't happen! Tony bloom sacks the bloke and then will let gus have the 2 it is just a rumour that is just rubbish from the telegraph! Hopefully bloom will tell him where to stick the offer if it's true
It won't happen! Tony bloom sacks the bloke and then will let gus have the 2 it is just a rumour that is just rubbish from the telegraph! Hopefully bloom will tell him where to stick the offer if it's true Ulloa19

10:05am Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

I would still like to know why Gus was sacked.
The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows.
Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.)
So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)
I would still like to know why Gus was sacked. The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows. Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.) So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-) Claude Back

10:15am Tue 31 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Neville1973 wrote:
get lost Poyet.. £3,5m really.. you bought Buckley for £1m and you valued Bridders at £10m, didnt you? Assuming both players are interested come back with a sensible bid... let`s be honest you are more desperate than us! hopefully both players will realise that Sunderland are not worth it if they want a premiership move, let`s face even Palace are better placed than them!
I agree - why would we sell Buckley for the same price we paid for him two(ish) years ago? I know this (if true) is only an opening gambit by Poyet, but even opening gambits are meant to be grounded in reality.

Joke offers... tell him to sling his hook.
[quote][p][bold]Neville1973[/bold] wrote: get lost Poyet.. £3,5m really.. you bought Buckley for £1m and you valued Bridders at £10m, didnt you? Assuming both players are interested come back with a sensible bid... let`s be honest you are more desperate than us! hopefully both players will realise that Sunderland are not worth it if they want a premiership move, let`s face even Palace are better placed than them![/p][/quote]I agree - why would we sell Buckley for the same price we paid for him two(ish) years ago? I know this (if true) is only an opening gambit by Poyet, but even opening gambits are meant to be grounded in reality. Joke offers... tell him to sling his hook. Ex-pat Arnie

10:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

crawleydownseagull says...

Buckley better than £10M Zaha and Bridcutt can play for Real Madrid, Poyets words not mine. £3.5M is an insult and he has a bl"""" cheek. We are in a good position, why now sell two key players, ince and kaz get injured and there goes our play off chances. Cant see Tony Bloom being too cooperative with Gus, I think they will be playing in the Championship next year so they will be going for the money. Hope it doesn't happen, he used us as he is using Sunderland:- for his own personal promotion, hope they are relegated and he is sacked, "that's football" Gus' words not mine.
Buckley better than £10M Zaha and Bridcutt can play for Real Madrid, Poyets words not mine. £3.5M is an insult and he has a bl"""" cheek. We are in a good position, why now sell two key players, ince and kaz get injured and there goes our play off chances. Cant see Tony Bloom being too cooperative with Gus, I think they will be playing in the Championship next year so they will be going for the money. Hope it doesn't happen, he used us as he is using Sunderland:- for his own personal promotion, hope they are relegated and he is sacked, "that's football" Gus' words not mine. crawleydownseagull

10:23am Tue 31 Dec 13

college says...

My opinion. Poyet taking the P if he has made this offer, however we as a club have had in the past a track record of undervaluing our assets when we come to sell them. I hope with the management team we have in place this is a practice we're not going to continue, If and when LB does go while he's still in contract, it has to be for a reasonable market value exactly the same as any other player at any other club. After all we don't have to sell him unless doing so generates sufficient funds to vastly strengthen the squad and stay within the FTP.
My opinion. Poyet taking the P if he has made this offer, however we as a club have had in the past a track record of undervaluing our assets when we come to sell them. I hope with the management team we have in place this is a practice we're not going to continue, If and when LB does go while he's still in contract, it has to be for a reasonable market value exactly the same as any other player at any other club. After all we don't have to sell him unless doing so generates sufficient funds to vastly strengthen the squad and stay within the FTP. college

10:31am Tue 31 Dec 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely.
The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true.
Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.
Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely. The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true. Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion. Joel'sGrandad

10:34am Tue 31 Dec 13

Shaftesbury Seagull says...

I love Mr Naylor's use of the verb 'to swoop'! Swoop means (according to my dictionary) to descend rapidly through the air or to carry out a sudden raid. There is nothing sudden about Poyet's wish to sign Bridcutt. We've all known about it for ages. There Is a history of Albion players, Gareth Barry excepted, moving on to improve themselves and then disappearing without trace. Even the great Zamora bounced around the London clubs for a while and won one, probably undeserved, England cap followed by oblivion. Bridcutt might be better advised to stay where he is.
I love Mr Naylor's use of the verb 'to swoop'! Swoop means (according to my dictionary) to descend rapidly through the air or to carry out a sudden raid. There is nothing sudden about Poyet's wish to sign Bridcutt. We've all known about it for ages. There Is a history of Albion players, Gareth Barry excepted, moving on to improve themselves and then disappearing without trace. Even the great Zamora bounced around the London clubs for a while and won one, probably undeserved, England cap followed by oblivion. Bridcutt might be better advised to stay where he is. Shaftesbury Seagull

10:36am Tue 31 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

From Sky Sport
We are hearing reports that Brighton have rejected Sunderland's bid for highly-rated winger Will Buckley. Gus Poyet is a big fan of Buckley having worked with him at Brighton and is keen to be reunited with him at the Stadium of Light, but Brighton have rebuffed their initial efforts to sign the player.
From Sky Sport We are hearing reports that Brighton have rejected Sunderland's bid for highly-rated winger Will Buckley. Gus Poyet is a big fan of Buckley having worked with him at Brighton and is keen to be reunited with him at the Stadium of Light, but Brighton have rebuffed their initial efforts to sign the player. championshipgull

10:37am Tue 31 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo.
Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo. To baldly go

10:44am Tue 31 Dec 13

crawleydownseagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
I would still like to know why Gus was sacked.
The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows.
Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.)
So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)
Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I would still like to know why Gus was sacked. The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows. Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.) So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)[/p][/quote]Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget. crawleydownseagull

10:50am Tue 31 Dec 13

crawleydownseagull says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely.
The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true.
Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.
TB will do the right thing100%
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely. The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true. Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.[/p][/quote]TB will do the right thing100% crawleydownseagull

10:57am Tue 31 Dec 13

albion64 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely.
The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true.
Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.
I agree, it is all talk at the moment. Poyet was at 'Boro v Reading on Saturday, so probably sniffing round Wayne Bridge. He is bound to offer an insulting figure though, if and when it does happen.

I will say this, if we let our best players go, then it is a massive backward step. I think our support will dwindle also. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely. The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true. Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.[/p][/quote]I agree, it is all talk at the moment. Poyet was at 'Boro v Reading on Saturday, so probably sniffing round Wayne Bridge. He is bound to offer an insulting figure though, if and when it does happen. I will say this, if we let our best players go, then it is a massive backward step. I think our support will dwindle also. UTA albion64

10:58am Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

I think these proposed transfers are subject to two obvious elements:-
The money and/or footballing assets we can recoup
The willingness or otherwise of the players to see the season through with us

In a way, Bridcutt is at the crossroads in his career and needs to make a carefully considered choice; he is certainly premiership standard, but should he go now? Should he help us to the premiership? Big decision!
I think these proposed transfers are subject to two obvious elements:- The money and/or footballing assets we can recoup The willingness or otherwise of the players to see the season through with us In a way, Bridcutt is at the crossroads in his career and needs to make a carefully considered choice; he is certainly premiership standard, but should he go now? Should he help us to the premiership? Big decision! brightonup

10:59am Tue 31 Dec 13

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

If he doubles his offer and they want to go then he can take them, as long as we can first get Ince tied down to a long term contract. The emergence of Ince combined with the way players are generally getting cheaper with FFP means that £7 million would be a very good deal. In fact anything above £5 million for the pair would be worth it. I'm still treating this season as a transition and a play-off place or more would be a bonus. With the new training ground in place. next summer will be the time to bring in new players, especially in defence.
If he doubles his offer and they want to go then he can take them, as long as we can first get Ince tied down to a long term contract. The emergence of Ince combined with the way players are generally getting cheaper with FFP means that £7 million would be a very good deal. In fact anything above £5 million for the pair would be worth it. I'm still treating this season as a transition and a play-off place or more would be a bonus. With the new training ground in place. next summer will be the time to bring in new players, especially in defence. AburridoEnTrabajo

11:06am Tue 31 Dec 13

lotsofducks says...

crawleydownseagull wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely.
The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true.
Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.
TB will do the right thing100%
For me, the key text is "Albion are staying tight-lipped over the futures of Liam Bridcutt and Will Buckley." Translation: "this is a rumour without substance, which is so speculative that the club won't even give it credence by commenting on it"! Having said this, I won't be surprised if Bridcutt or anyone else goes, if someone offers enough dosh. 2.5 m for Bridcutt doesn't even come close. And Sunderland? Please! Obviously anyone that goes there wants premiership wages... but Championship football.
[quote][p][bold]crawleydownseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Does anyone really believe anything printed in the papers. The key word is "reportedly" which to me means possibly but more like unlikely. The sums quoted are derisory which suggests they're not true. Anyway, what will happen will happen. Just leave it to TB to get the best deal for the Albion.[/p][/quote]TB will do the right thing100%[/p][/quote]For me, the key text is "Albion are staying tight-lipped over the futures of Liam Bridcutt and Will Buckley." Translation: "this is a rumour without substance, which is so speculative that the club won't even give it credence by commenting on it"! Having said this, I won't be surprised if Bridcutt or anyone else goes, if someone offers enough dosh. 2.5 m for Bridcutt doesn't even come close. And Sunderland? Please! Obviously anyone that goes there wants premiership wages... but Championship football. lotsofducks

11:21am Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

crawleydownseagull wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
I would still like to know why Gus was sacked.
The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows.
Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.)
So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)
Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget.
Thanks but that's not 'Gross Misconduct' in law and again is speculation not all fact.
[quote][p][bold]crawleydownseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I would still like to know why Gus was sacked. The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows. Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.) So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)[/p][/quote]Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget.[/p][/quote]Thanks but that's not 'Gross Misconduct' in law and again is speculation not all fact. Claude Back

11:28am Tue 31 Dec 13

Steveg1958 says...

So Gus wants both does he ?, well let TB say £10M for the pair ! as others have mentioned, Gus said Liam could play for Real Madrid and Buckley was better than Zaha, (who actually joined Utd for £15M, not £10M) that makes £10M for the pair a bargain. Come on Mr Barber and Mr Bloom, time to play hardball, especially with Gus.
So Gus wants both does he ?, well let TB say £10M for the pair ! as others have mentioned, Gus said Liam could play for Real Madrid and Buckley was better than Zaha, (who actually joined Utd for £15M, not £10M) that makes £10M for the pair a bargain. Come on Mr Barber and Mr Bloom, time to play hardball, especially with Gus. Steveg1958

11:30am Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

To baldly go wrote:
Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo.
I think you've got that a bit wrong.
Sunderland will stay up (they beat Everton at Everton for instance and the first team to do so this year) but Villa and Fulham will go down along with West Ham. Gus will get a lot of 0-0 draws and the odd goal margin win to ensure survival. You know how he works, don't you? Strengthen the defence and go for the breakaway goal. That's why he wants Bridcutt... to protect the back four and let Cattermole and the others get further forward.
Pulis will keep Palace up.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo.[/p][/quote]I think you've got that a bit wrong. Sunderland will stay up (they beat Everton at Everton for instance and the first team to do so this year) but Villa and Fulham will go down along with West Ham. Gus will get a lot of 0-0 draws and the odd goal margin win to ensure survival. You know how he works, don't you? Strengthen the defence and go for the breakaway goal. That's why he wants Bridcutt... to protect the back four and let Cattermole and the others get further forward. Pulis will keep Palace up. Claude Back

11:30am Tue 31 Dec 13

SeagullOverSelsey says...

According to the Mail today,Albion want £5 million for Liam .Albion want Chelsea,s 17year old Jerome Boga on loan.
According to the Mail today,Albion want £5 million for Liam .Albion want Chelsea,s 17year old Jerome Boga on loan. SeagullOverSelsey

11:32am Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

I should have added that Cardiff might be relegation certainties but much depends on who the new manager is.
I should have added that Cardiff might be relegation certainties but much depends on who the new manager is. Claude Back

11:42am Tue 31 Dec 13

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

As I have said before. We are unbeaten when Ince and bridcutt play In the same team. They compliment each other and one is not a replacement for the other. To play Ince as purely as adefensive midfielder in the role of bridcutt is to waste his potential. Ince should be allowed to charge forward like Patrick viera, Yaya toure , Steven Gerard. Not just cover defence, hold possession and try and regain possession like bridcutt ( who is an expert at that). Bridcutt cannot charge forward and score, or at least haven't done for nearly three seasons now. They are not the same sort of player. We need both Ince and bridcutt not either ,or. I reiterate we are unbeaten when they play together and you don't split that sort of successful partnership up for £2.5 million unless you absolutely have to and especially not if you want to achieve premiership status.
As I have said before. We are unbeaten when Ince and bridcutt play In the same team. They compliment each other and one is not a replacement for the other. To play Ince as purely as adefensive midfielder in the role of bridcutt is to waste his potential. Ince should be allowed to charge forward like Patrick viera, Yaya toure , Steven Gerard. Not just cover defence, hold possession and try and regain possession like bridcutt ( who is an expert at that). Bridcutt cannot charge forward and score, or at least haven't done for nearly three seasons now. They are not the same sort of player. We need both Ince and bridcutt not either ,or. I reiterate we are unbeaten when they play together and you don't split that sort of successful partnership up for £2.5 million unless you absolutely have to and especially not if you want to achieve premiership status. EastWorthingExocetMissile

11:47am Tue 31 Dec 13

russellsnr says...

Maybe to much drinking for me
I love my Tea!!!
But in the report it states "Poyet claimed last year the former Watford winger is better than Wilfried Zaha, who left Crystal Palace for Manchester United for £10 million."
So how can he value WB at only ! million?
Maybe to much drinking for me I love my Tea!!! But in the report it states "Poyet claimed last year the former Watford winger is better than Wilfried Zaha, who left Crystal Palace for Manchester United for £10 million." So how can he value WB at only ! million? russellsnr

11:51am Tue 31 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

tweet from
Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus
"Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."
tweet from Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus "Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him." championshipgull

11:59am Tue 31 Dec 13

Steveg1958 says...

EastWorthingExocetMi
ssile
wrote:
As I have said before. We are unbeaten when Ince and bridcutt play In the same team. They compliment each other and one is not a replacement for the other. To play Ince as purely as adefensive midfielder in the role of bridcutt is to waste his potential. Ince should be allowed to charge forward like Patrick viera, Yaya toure , Steven Gerard. Not just cover defence, hold possession and try and regain possession like bridcutt ( who is an expert at that). Bridcutt cannot charge forward and score, or at least haven't done for nearly three seasons now. They are not the same sort of player. We need both Ince and bridcutt not either ,or. I reiterate we are unbeaten when they play together and you don't split that sort of successful partnership up for £2.5 million unless you absolutely have to and especially not if you want to achieve premiership status.
Perfect, its obvious ,Ince Bridcut complement each other perfectly, one should not replace the other. RI's power and pace must be used as per Viera and Toure. Exactly right, so if GP wants Bridcut he must pay at least £5M. I don't want anyone to leave this January (except maybe Andrews !). The next month will show us exactly how much ambition our board actually have. !
[quote][p][bold]EastWorthingExocetMi ssile[/bold] wrote: As I have said before. We are unbeaten when Ince and bridcutt play In the same team. They compliment each other and one is not a replacement for the other. To play Ince as purely as adefensive midfielder in the role of bridcutt is to waste his potential. Ince should be allowed to charge forward like Patrick viera, Yaya toure , Steven Gerard. Not just cover defence, hold possession and try and regain possession like bridcutt ( who is an expert at that). Bridcutt cannot charge forward and score, or at least haven't done for nearly three seasons now. They are not the same sort of player. We need both Ince and bridcutt not either ,or. I reiterate we are unbeaten when they play together and you don't split that sort of successful partnership up for £2.5 million unless you absolutely have to and especially not if you want to achieve premiership status.[/p][/quote]Perfect, its obvious ,Ince Bridcut complement each other perfectly, one should not replace the other. RI's power and pace must be used as per Viera and Toure. Exactly right, so if GP wants Bridcut he must pay at least £5M. I don't want anyone to leave this January (except maybe Andrews !). The next month will show us exactly how much ambition our board actually have. ! Steveg1958

12:00pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

Its all paper talk. As many have said IF---and it is a big if---he wants Buckers why then has HIS--Poyets--value gone down by 90% to 1M and Bridders is worth a lot more than the joint offer. If there is any truth in this bit of rumour journalism then Bloom would laugh at it. Would only consider any offer for any of our players if the price was right AND we had replacements lined up. As I have said before it was only last week the papers said Poyet would be given no money in the Jan transfer window. Has he won the Lottery over Xmas??? Papers have to write something to get us all stirred up!! Happy New Year all and not too many sore heads in La Manana---cheers from Spain.
Its all paper talk. As many have said IF---and it is a big if---he wants Buckers why then has HIS--Poyets--value gone down by 90% to 1M and Bridders is worth a lot more than the joint offer. If there is any truth in this bit of rumour journalism then Bloom would laugh at it. Would only consider any offer for any of our players if the price was right AND we had replacements lined up. As I have said before it was only last week the papers said Poyet would be given no money in the Jan transfer window. Has he won the Lottery over Xmas??? Papers have to write something to get us all stirred up!! Happy New Year all and not too many sore heads in La Manana---cheers from Spain. mikeygit

12:17pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Major Bloodboil says...

I believe that MBTS said recently that we had tabled a bid for Matt Ritchie of Bournemouth, or something like that and so that's possibly something else to keep a look out for.
I believe that MBTS said recently that we had tabled a bid for Matt Ritchie of Bournemouth, or something like that and so that's possibly something else to keep a look out for. Major Bloodboil

12:17pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

mikeygit wrote:
Its all paper talk. As many have said IF---and it is a big if---he wants Buckers why then has HIS--Poyets--value gone down by 90% to 1M and Bridders is worth a lot more than the joint offer. If there is any truth in this bit of rumour journalism then Bloom would laugh at it. Would only consider any offer for any of our players if the price was right AND we had replacements lined up. As I have said before it was only last week the papers said Poyet would be given no money in the Jan transfer window. Has he won the Lottery over Xmas??? Papers have to write something to get us all stirred up!! Happy New Year all and not too many sore heads in La Manana---cheers from Spain.
Ah, but 3 or 4 million is nothing by Premiership standards so 'no money' is maybe relative. Also, what if Gus sells one or more of his players? He'll have money then.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Its all paper talk. As many have said IF---and it is a big if---he wants Buckers why then has HIS--Poyets--value gone down by 90% to 1M and Bridders is worth a lot more than the joint offer. If there is any truth in this bit of rumour journalism then Bloom would laugh at it. Would only consider any offer for any of our players if the price was right AND we had replacements lined up. As I have said before it was only last week the papers said Poyet would be given no money in the Jan transfer window. Has he won the Lottery over Xmas??? Papers have to write something to get us all stirred up!! Happy New Year all and not too many sore heads in La Manana---cheers from Spain.[/p][/quote]Ah, but 3 or 4 million is nothing by Premiership standards so 'no money' is maybe relative. Also, what if Gus sells one or more of his players? He'll have money then. Claude Back

12:19pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
I believe that MBTS said recently that we had tabled a bid for Matt Ritchie of Bournemouth, or something like that and so that's possibly something else to keep a look out for.
Thank you, Major. Do you rate Ritchie? I recall he did score a few goals last season.
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: I believe that MBTS said recently that we had tabled a bid for Matt Ritchie of Bournemouth, or something like that and so that's possibly something else to keep a look out for.[/p][/quote]Thank you, Major. Do you rate Ritchie? I recall he did score a few goals last season. Claude Back

12:35pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Hovite says...

championshipgull wrote:
tweet from
Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus
"Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."
Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this:

Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA.

That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: tweet from Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus "Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."[/p][/quote]Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this: Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA. That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard. Hovite

1:10pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Gee Jay says...

Albion tend to do their deals very quietly, I am sure Liam is already on his way, we will never know for how much. It does not do to let others know how much you are paying or receiving for a player. This is the business end of football.
Good business is selling high and buying low.
Albion tend to do their deals very quietly, I am sure Liam is already on his way, we will never know for how much. It does not do to let others know how much you are paying or receiving for a player. This is the business end of football. Good business is selling high and buying low. Gee Jay

2:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Chalkgull says...

Be interesting to see if Liam is in the team tomorrow and also Saturday - would the club want to cup tie him. That will say a lot.
Be interesting to see if Liam is in the team tomorrow and also Saturday - would the club want to cup tie him. That will say a lot. Chalkgull

2:14pm Tue 31 Dec 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today.

I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.
Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today. I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good. PressBoxTeaBoy

2:23pm Tue 31 Dec 13

New Jersey Seagull says...

The words “premiership ready” comes to mind when we discuss the transfers of Buckley and Bridcutt. If has been stated previously several clubs are interested in Bridcutt, then he is undoubtedly “premiership ready”, whereas players such as Conway who are surplus to requirements at Cardiff are clearly not. If the club is truly committed to getting promotion this year, why is it so difficult to convince a “premiership ready” player such as Bridcutt that his future lies with BHA? One reason might be the club’s strict imposition of FFP (essentially a cap on player’s salaries) has made it impossible to sign and retain players like him.
The words “premiership ready” comes to mind when we discuss the transfers of Buckley and Bridcutt. If has been stated previously several clubs are interested in Bridcutt, then he is undoubtedly “premiership ready”, whereas players such as Conway who are surplus to requirements at Cardiff are clearly not. If the club is truly committed to getting promotion this year, why is it so difficult to convince a “premiership ready” player such as Bridcutt that his future lies with BHA? One reason might be the club’s strict imposition of FFP (essentially a cap on player’s salaries) has made it impossible to sign and retain players like him. New Jersey Seagull

3:05pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today.

I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.
By re investing I hope you don't mean players such as Andrews kemy,
Even Conway was playing for a contract, and will he hit the level he showed,
Don't think bridcutt will play tomo, and worse is Bournemouth are on good away form.
I see Bolton posted a loss of 50 million for last season, what I wonder is will the FA punish 15 clubs from the championship if they all fail to meet FAIR PLAY ?
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today. I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.[/p][/quote]By re investing I hope you don't mean players such as Andrews kemy, Even Conway was playing for a contract, and will he hit the level he showed, Don't think bridcutt will play tomo, and worse is Bournemouth are on good away form. I see Bolton posted a loss of 50 million for last season, what I wonder is will the FA punish 15 clubs from the championship if they all fail to meet FAIR PLAY ? mark by the sea

3:17pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Far gull says...

All talk,just cannot see either happening a the bids mentioned. 4 million for liam and 2 for buckley may be but not to Sunderland.
Every player has his price and with FFP would be happy to see coffers swelled with cash,( see Bolton debt for a wake up call) we must stay solvent above all our prem dreams.
Ince as I forecast after first game our ready made replacement and Solly could be buckley's ( injury prone and this season seems to be lacking pace and confidence,so change may be good for him,has been good for us but maybe time is right for him to move on with our thanks)
Andrews moving on ,No issue.
Matt Richie would be a good investment imho. But another midfielder when we really could do with more out and out striker.
Wonder why litta never got a look in much. But we never get to see training and one never knows what players application is like until boss comments aka Brzza,El Abb and Chicksen.
Still interesting to follow albion for sure.
All talk,just cannot see either happening a the bids mentioned. 4 million for liam and 2 for buckley may be but not to Sunderland. Every player has his price and with FFP would be happy to see coffers swelled with cash,( see Bolton debt for a wake up call) we must stay solvent above all our prem dreams. Ince as I forecast after first game our ready made replacement and Solly could be buckley's ( injury prone and this season seems to be lacking pace and confidence,so change may be good for him,has been good for us but maybe time is right for him to move on with our thanks) Andrews moving on ,No issue. Matt Richie would be a good investment imho. But another midfielder when we really could do with more out and out striker. Wonder why litta never got a look in much. But we never get to see training and one never knows what players application is like until boss comments aka Brzza,El Abb and Chicksen. Still interesting to follow albion for sure. Far gull

3:31pm Tue 31 Dec 13

blue-eyed-boy says...

We have to trust the Board on this, remember they know they need to look after the advance Season Ticket sales, & the only way to do that is to be seen to be competitive, so if players go they will have be to replaced with better ones, the Board need to be judged by their actions not rumours, I think they know the where the fair weather fans will go if they don't keep the Team competitive for the rest of the season,& the need to keep their eye on next years income as well.
We have to trust the Board on this, remember they know they need to look after the advance Season Ticket sales, & the only way to do that is to be seen to be competitive, so if players go they will have be to replaced with better ones, the Board need to be judged by their actions not rumours, I think they know the where the fair weather fans will go if they don't keep the Team competitive for the rest of the season,& the need to keep their eye on next years income as well. blue-eyed-boy

3:36pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Baldseagull says...

Gus playing games. Unless Bridcutt has interest from a club expected to remain in the Prem, I expect him to remain until the summer.
Gus playing games. Unless Bridcutt has interest from a club expected to remain in the Prem, I expect him to remain until the summer. Baldseagull

3:54pm Tue 31 Dec 13

AGT999 says...

I'm not worrying, in general supporters think in the short term and the management/owners long term. Mr Bloom has not spent the millions on the Amex and the new training facilities just for us to remain in the Championship. I want Brighton to go into the Premiership and stay there, not be a yo-yo club. Keep the faith.
I'm not worrying, in general supporters think in the short term and the management/owners long term. Mr Bloom has not spent the millions on the Amex and the new training facilities just for us to remain in the Championship. I want Brighton to go into the Premiership and stay there, not be a yo-yo club. Keep the faith. AGT999

4:05pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Far gull says...

Sky sources ' albion in advanced talks now about liam and will ' ????
Sky sources ' albion in advanced talks now about liam and will ' ???? Far gull

4:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

From sky sport
We are hearing that Sunderland have had a number of bids rejected by Brighton for Liam Bridcutt. Sunderland boss Gus Poyet has made Bridcutt one of his top targets during the January transfer window, but Brighton are reluctant to lose the Scotland international. Sunderland have already seen a bid rejected by Brighton for Will Buckley.
From sky sport We are hearing that Sunderland have had a number of bids rejected by Brighton for Liam Bridcutt. Sunderland boss Gus Poyet has made Bridcutt one of his top targets during the January transfer window, but Brighton are reluctant to lose the Scotland international. Sunderland have already seen a bid rejected by Brighton for Will Buckley. championshipgull

4:14pm Tue 31 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

Hovite wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
tweet from
Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus
"Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."
Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this:

Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA.

That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard.
And cheers to you Hovite and to everyone else that’s looking forward to prosperous New Year for bhafc. Two nights of celebrations if we go into the top 6 tomorrow. If your use twitter I am at West Sussex Seagulls ‏@westsxseagulls Have a good one UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: tweet from Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus "Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."[/p][/quote]Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this: Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA. That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard.[/p][/quote]And cheers to you Hovite and to everyone else that’s looking forward to prosperous New Year for bhafc. Two nights of celebrations if we go into the top 6 tomorrow. If your use twitter I am at West Sussex Seagulls ‏@westsxseagulls Have a good one UTA. championshipgull

4:45pm Tue 31 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

All these rumours will only fuel the fire.They are on Sky and Football Rumours---guess there must be some truth in them and Gus will do his best to get Albion players that he rates. Although I do not know with what as Sunderland---reporte
dly---have no money!!! Guess Bridcutt will go but if he has any sence, not to Sunderland. If I were him I would want to go to a team with a better chance of staying in the Premiership. Cannot imagine Gus really wanting Buckers with his injury history. January will be buzzing with rumours and counter rumours. But in Bloom we trust to do the right thing. Poyet rates Buckers more than Zaha!!! and Zaha cannot even get in the Man U team and Moyes wants to loan him out---was it a waste of 10M???
All these rumours will only fuel the fire.They are on Sky and Football Rumours---guess there must be some truth in them and Gus will do his best to get Albion players that he rates. Although I do not know with what as Sunderland---reporte dly---have no money!!! Guess Bridcutt will go but if he has any sence, not to Sunderland. If I were him I would want to go to a team with a better chance of staying in the Premiership. Cannot imagine Gus really wanting Buckers with his injury history. January will be buzzing with rumours and counter rumours. But in Bloom we trust to do the right thing. Poyet rates Buckers more than Zaha!!! and Zaha cannot even get in the Man U team and Moyes wants to loan him out---was it a waste of 10M??? mikeygit

4:58pm Tue 31 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

Claude Back wrote:
To baldly go wrote: Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo.
I think you've got that a bit wrong. Sunderland will stay up (they beat Everton at Everton for instance and the first team to do so this year) but Villa and Fulham will go down along with West Ham. Gus will get a lot of 0-0 draws and the odd goal margin win to ensure survival. You know how he works, don't you? Strengthen the defence and go for the breakaway goal. That's why he wants Bridcutt... to protect the back four and let Cattermole and the others get further forward. Pulis will keep Palace up.
Could be right about Sunderland and Poyet, but i think others will also improve their teams making it tough for them to get clear of the relegation zone.
Will Bridcutt want to risk going into the prem with Sunderland only to be relegated! or stay with us, get promoted and have a whole season to prove his quality.
I think your right about palarse under pulis.
As long as we get good money for anyone we sell so we can invest ourselves and progress.UTA
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Buckley wont go due to injury, bridcutt could go for £5m but he wont choose sunderland as he knows he will be back in championship next season, i reckon villa, palarse or fulham will be his goal, we need to be careful with young ince as he is out of contract end of season and could have his pick of clubs, give him a 4/5 year deal with a massive sell on clause just incase someone was to come in for him. we need to invest in central defenders a right back and a young striker, other positions are all covered for the future imo.[/p][/quote]I think you've got that a bit wrong. Sunderland will stay up (they beat Everton at Everton for instance and the first team to do so this year) but Villa and Fulham will go down along with West Ham. Gus will get a lot of 0-0 draws and the odd goal margin win to ensure survival. You know how he works, don't you? Strengthen the defence and go for the breakaway goal. That's why he wants Bridcutt... to protect the back four and let Cattermole and the others get further forward. Pulis will keep Palace up.[/p][/quote]Could be right about Sunderland and Poyet, but i think others will also improve their teams making it tough for them to get clear of the relegation zone. Will Bridcutt want to risk going into the prem with Sunderland only to be relegated! or stay with us, get promoted and have a whole season to prove his quality. I think your right about palarse under pulis. As long as we get good money for anyone we sell so we can invest ourselves and progress.UTA To baldly go

5:00pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today.

I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.
Maybe you are a tad bias, re beautiful ol sussex, what garbage.

Maybe he wants to play in a near 50,000 capacity stadium, did you think of that?
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today. I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.[/p][/quote]Maybe you are a tad bias, re beautiful ol sussex, what garbage. Maybe he wants to play in a near 50,000 capacity stadium, did you think of that? ringtone

5:14pm Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

Always remember .... Dungtone is a dullard and a troll and unworthy of a response.
Always remember .... Dungtone is a dullard and a troll and unworthy of a response. brightonup

5:16pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today.

I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.
By re investing I hope you don't mean players such as Andrews kemy,
Even Conway was playing for a contract, and will he hit the level he showed,
Don't think bridcutt will play tomo, and worse is Bournemouth are on good away form.
I see Bolton posted a loss of 50 million for last season, what I wonder is will the FA punish 15 clubs from the championship if they all fail to meet FAIR PLAY ?
Of course Conway was playing for a contract!!! Which players aren't? Very strange thing to say...

And as far as I read it, the football league (not FA) are contractually and legally obliged to punish clubs that flout the FFP regulations. All the clubs signed up to it, so they can't complain that's it's unfair or unexpected.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Tough call for Liam not just for the club. Will Liam want to run the risk of a move to Sunderland with the likelyhood of only ending up back in the championship next season, but then stuck living in bleak o'l Sunderland versus beautiful o'l Sussex. No guarantee that Poyet will even retain his job when Sunderland get relegated either. The only guarantee here for Liam is double the wages he has today. I suspect one or two other clubs may come in for Liam anyway, and we could possibly see Poyet get trumped. With the emergence of Ince in our squad I do believe BHA should let Liam go provided it brings in at least £4m, we could then invest £1m - £2m in a new signing(s) and whats left will boost the coffers of sustainability. It's all good.[/p][/quote]By re investing I hope you don't mean players such as Andrews kemy, Even Conway was playing for a contract, and will he hit the level he showed, Don't think bridcutt will play tomo, and worse is Bournemouth are on good away form. I see Bolton posted a loss of 50 million for last season, what I wonder is will the FA punish 15 clubs from the championship if they all fail to meet FAIR PLAY ?[/p][/quote]Of course Conway was playing for a contract!!! Which players aren't? Very strange thing to say... And as far as I read it, the football league (not FA) are contractually and legally obliged to punish clubs that flout the FFP regulations. All the clubs signed up to it, so they can't complain that's it's unfair or unexpected. Ex-pat Arnie

5:19pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
Always remember .... Dungtone is a dullard and a troll and unworthy of a response.
All your comments are souless and lacking in wit.

Why dont you try to entertain for once, lighten?
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: Always remember .... Dungtone is a dullard and a troll and unworthy of a response.[/p][/quote]All your comments are souless and lacking in wit. Why dont you try to entertain for once, lighten? ringtone

5:21pm Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

...but at least he answers to his proper handle.
...but at least he answers to his proper handle. brightonup

5:23pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Clean Sheet says...

OG is quoted on the BBC .sport website stating he wants to keep LB, as he is a senior squad player. Buckley is injured, so unlikely to go anywhere, although the article states that BHA has rejected several bids for him. Good to hear OG making a point about his senior players.
OG is quoted on the BBC .sport website stating he wants to keep LB, as he is a senior squad player. Buckley is injured, so unlikely to go anywhere, although the article states that BHA has rejected several bids for him. Good to hear OG making a point about his senior players. Clean Sheet

5:25pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

brightonup wrote:
...but at least he answers to his proper handle.
Okay you win, Genius.

I gave you a chance at what you crave the most and you blew it.

Guess i will hang around a bit longer
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: ...but at least he answers to his proper handle.[/p][/quote]Okay you win, Genius. I gave you a chance at what you crave the most and you blew it. Guess i will hang around a bit longer ringtone

5:26pm Tue 31 Dec 13

namgo49 says...

Claude Back wrote:
crawleydownseagull wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
I would still like to know why Gus was sacked.
The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows.
Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.)
So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)
Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget.
Thanks but that's not 'Gross Misconduct' in law and again is speculation not all fact.
Gross misconduct under employment law is whatever you want it to be and the club wanted it to be. What I never understood was that if he told TB in March he did not want to stay on whatever at the end of the season is that the club just said "OK, park your bike outside and get on it when the season ends". Clearly they had lined up OG & NJ before the bloke had gone so everything was in place. Maybe Gus wanted to be paid off or had forgotten where he parked his bike so the club had to change tactics!! Who knows.

Anyway back to the article, Bridcutt will go, but not to Sunderland. I reckon he will go to Fulham particularly as Curbishley is there and he will have kept an eye on things at the Amex. Buckley may go there as well but he is injury prone which would put many off. Smoke and mirrors by OG over Conway. He will be back in the next week. He doesn't have a squad number at Cardiff so there is no point in him staying there and he wants to come back here so, a no-brainer. If needs be we can sell Barnesy to raise a bit of money for Conway's agents blood money.

CMS on the way back I see. Love to see him and Ulloa in the same line up with CMS playing off Ulloa.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]crawleydownseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I would still like to know why Gus was sacked. The real truth, not speculation. Nobody except Gus and the hierarchy at the Club knows. Anyway, whatever the reason we should all be grateful to Gus for revamping the Club from bottom to top and bringing in quality players. After all, the best players we have are all Gus's.Without him the team would not be as good as it is now. (Yes, thanks to TB for all the money too.) So, if he does get Bridcutt, let's not have a lot of bile and spiteful comments on here. ;-)[/p][/quote]Misconduct. He threw his toys out of his pram regularly, the board were tired of his antics, Suarez comments, wanting away to Reading in March, when we were in line for promotion, Reading were doomed (he wanted the £), turned up 10 minutes before the most important game of his tenure( v Palace 2nd leg), after the Palace game he said "this was not the time to talk about the game"!!!!!!!! he then said he had to think about "himself"...Jesus!! what about the 28,000 grieving fans going home, the players let down by him!! is that not enough? It is obvious he didn't want to be at the club, pay his contract out and we would have had to have slashed this years playing budget.[/p][/quote]Thanks but that's not 'Gross Misconduct' in law and again is speculation not all fact.[/p][/quote]Gross misconduct under employment law is whatever you want it to be and the club wanted it to be. What I never understood was that if he told TB in March he did not want to stay on whatever at the end of the season is that the club just said "OK, park your bike outside and get on it when the season ends". Clearly they had lined up OG & NJ before the bloke had gone so everything was in place. Maybe Gus wanted to be paid off or had forgotten where he parked his bike so the club had to change tactics!! Who knows. Anyway back to the article, Bridcutt will go, but not to Sunderland. I reckon he will go to Fulham particularly as Curbishley is there and he will have kept an eye on things at the Amex. Buckley may go there as well but he is injury prone which would put many off. Smoke and mirrors by OG over Conway. He will be back in the next week. He doesn't have a squad number at Cardiff so there is no point in him staying there and he wants to come back here so, a no-brainer. If needs be we can sell Barnesy to raise a bit of money for Conway's agents blood money. CMS on the way back I see. Love to see him and Ulloa in the same line up with CMS playing off Ulloa. namgo49

5:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Chi Gull says...

The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings.

I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to.

I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year!
The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings. I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to. I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year! Chi Gull

5:35pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

I am a big fan of Gus but i dont think signing these two are gonna keep Sunderland up, unless he signs another nine players as well.

Lets face it, if they where that good we would be nearer the top of the table.

Thats the truth and of course you aint gonna like it
I am a big fan of Gus but i dont think signing these two are gonna keep Sunderland up, unless he signs another nine players as well. Lets face it, if they where that good we would be nearer the top of the table. Thats the truth and of course you aint gonna like it ringtone

5:38pm Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

Dungtone is becoming increasingly desperate.
Pathetic... that's the truth
Dungtone is becoming increasingly desperate. Pathetic... that's the truth brightonup

5:46pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

Chi Gull wrote:
The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings.

I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to.

I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year!
Must be great to have access to all the financial records at the Stadium Of Light.

Or does Ellis Short ring you for advice on financial prudence in todays premier league.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings. I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to. I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year![/p][/quote]Must be great to have access to all the financial records at the Stadium Of Light. Or does Ellis Short ring you for advice on financial prudence in todays premier league. ringtone

5:53pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Hovite says...

championshipgull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
championshipgull wrote:
tweet from
Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus
"Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."
Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this:

Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA.

That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard.
And cheers to you Hovite and to everyone else that’s looking forward to prosperous New Year for bhafc. Two nights of celebrations if we go into the top 6 tomorrow. If your use twitter I am at West Sussex Seagulls ‏@westsxseagulls Have a good one UTA.
Cheers you too, will make a note of your twitter.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: tweet from Andy Naylor ‏@AndyNaylorArgus "Bridcutt is going nowhere......this morning. He was at training. Buckley's going nowhere quickly. Treatment room for him."[/p][/quote]Cheers Champ, Naylor also says this: Anyone thinking events now involving Gus Poyet and #bhafc are utterly unrelated to the summer does not understand his DNA. That's quite a strong statement from Naylor. I reckon we are just playing String v Cat with him and the move would only happen if it is a massively over priced offer. Apart from that just tease the bstard.[/p][/quote]And cheers to you Hovite and to everyone else that’s looking forward to prosperous New Year for bhafc. Two nights of celebrations if we go into the top 6 tomorrow. If your use twitter I am at West Sussex Seagulls ‏@westsxseagulls Have a good one UTA.[/p][/quote]Cheers you too, will make a note of your twitter. Hovite

6:20pm Tue 31 Dec 13

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/23
703265
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract?[/p][/quote]Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/23 703265 pte

6:22pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

ringtone wrote:
Chi Gull wrote:
The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings.

I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to.

I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year!
Must be great to have access to all the financial records at the Stadium Of Light.

Or does Ellis Short ring you for advice on financial prudence in todays premier league.
Just blown your dullard theory out of the water. hey lighten.

This is one of the top three responses of the day, what the hell make that the year.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: The FFP rules are there for a reason. It's not just about penalties imposed by the league and FA. Clubs that don't follow the FFP rules are likely to be sinking deeper into debt - with all the problems that ultimately brings. I suspect the doubts being aired about Conway are more to do with how much we might have to pay to get him, and whether we are likely to face competition. I repeat what I said earlier that Sunderland haven't got a big Jan transfer budget, so the offer is probably what they can afford rather than what the players might be worth. If Gus really wants them he will have to sell a player or two. Frankly I don't think that is likely to happen. We will only sell if we have replacements lined up, so its all likely to be left until the transfer deadline - so weeks of speculation to look forward to. I certainly don't see why OG would want to leave out players who are the subject of speculation. That would rule out half the players in the league at this time of year![/p][/quote]Must be great to have access to all the financial records at the Stadium Of Light. Or does Ellis Short ring you for advice on financial prudence in todays premier league.[/p][/quote]Just blown your dullard theory out of the water. hey lighten. This is one of the top three responses of the day, what the hell make that the year. ringtone

6:29pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

pte wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/23

703265
Nice stuff pte. Like your thinking.

But you should probably realise the dullards on here dont like to think too deeply and still believe in father xmas especially after that elf bloom got us a new stadium.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract?[/p][/quote]Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/23 703265[/p][/quote]Nice stuff pte. Like your thinking. But you should probably realise the dullards on here dont like to think too deeply and still believe in father xmas especially after that elf bloom got us a new stadium. ringtone

6:41pm Tue 31 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!!
I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!! sussexram40

6:45pm Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

ridicuked sums it up
ridicuked sums it up brightonup

6:48pm Tue 31 Dec 13

albionwarrior says...

sussexram40 wrote:
I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!!
you should know you do it all the time.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!![/p][/quote]you should know you do it all the time. albionwarrior

6:51pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

sussexram40 wrote:
I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!!
Thank you sussexram.

What sort of fees can we be expecting to swell the Amex coffers.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: I've been reporting that Poyet would swoop for our best players on here for weeks and being ridicuked by the usual suspects. Once again I'm proved right. Some of us have contacts - others just talk out of their a@ses!![/p][/quote]Thank you sussexram. What sort of fees can we be expecting to swell the Amex coffers. ringtone

6:58pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OldGull says...

Oh dear the Trolls are talking to each other again.
Oh dear the Trolls are talking to each other again. OldGull

7:00pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OldGull says...

brightonup wrote:
ridicuked sums it up
Perhaps it is a South London word?
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: ridicuked sums it up[/p][/quote]Perhaps it is a South London word? OldGull

7:18pm Tue 31 Dec 13

ringtone says...

OldGull wrote:
Oh dear the Trolls are talking to each other again.
Posting is not talking as lighten will no doubt confirm, you idiot.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Oh dear the Trolls are talking to each other again.[/p][/quote]Posting is not talking as lighten will no doubt confirm, you idiot. ringtone

8:18pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Falmer Wizard says...

russellsnr wrote:
Maybe to much drinking for me
I love my Tea!!!
But in the report it states "Poyet claimed last year the former Watford winger is better than Wilfried Zaha, who left Crystal Palace for Manchester United for £10 million."
So how can he value WB at only ! million?
Did you really believe that comment it was a throwaway line to impress,Buckley has been a disappointment this season when he has played and appears to be injury prone.
Gus needs players who are fit, I expect his offer is a smoke screen to hide his interest for our Argie striker.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr[/bold] wrote: Maybe to much drinking for me I love my Tea!!! But in the report it states "Poyet claimed last year the former Watford winger is better than Wilfried Zaha, who left Crystal Palace for Manchester United for £10 million." So how can he value WB at only ! million?[/p][/quote]Did you really believe that comment it was a throwaway line to impress,Buckley has been a disappointment this season when he has played and appears to be injury prone. Gus needs players who are fit, I expect his offer is a smoke screen to hide his interest for our Argie striker. Falmer Wizard

8:21pm Tue 31 Dec 13

tooncgull says...

As an exiled Toon, as well as a long term Albion season ticket holder - I'd hate to see Bridcutt and Buckley running around in the red and white stripes of the Great Unwashed.
Anyway - Buckley was a Newcastle fan as a boy, or so the match program claimed a year or so ago.
As an exiled Toon, as well as a long term Albion season ticket holder - I'd hate to see Bridcutt and Buckley running around in the red and white stripes of the Great Unwashed. Anyway - Buckley was a Newcastle fan as a boy, or so the match program claimed a year or so ago. tooncgull

8:56pm Tue 31 Dec 13

namgo49 says...

Off story I reckon the game will be off tomorrow cos of the weather.
Off story I reckon the game will be off tomorrow cos of the weather. namgo49

9:23pm Tue 31 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop.
Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop. sussexram40

9:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop.
An old trick of the antique 'knocker' boys years ago. They knocked on doors, got a look at the stuff in the house then offered an OTT amount for a modest item they didn't want - plus a little bit for whatever piece they really wanted that was of real value...
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop.[/p][/quote]An old trick of the antique 'knocker' boys years ago. They knocked on doors, got a look at the stuff in the house then offered an OTT amount for a modest item they didn't want - plus a little bit for whatever piece they really wanted that was of real value... Willie, Willie Irvine

9:56pm Tue 31 Dec 13

sussexram40 says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop.
An old trick of the antique 'knocker' boys years ago. They knocked on doors, got a look at the stuff in the house then offered an OTT amount for a modest item they didn't want - plus a little bit for whatever piece they really wanted that was of real value...
Yes because there's no logical reason why he would want an injured, out of form Buckley. Buckley is a cover for his real prey I think.
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Gus is smart. Very smart. I reckon his main target is Leo and he's using Bridcutt and Buckley to get his nose in the door before making his big swoop.[/p][/quote]An old trick of the antique 'knocker' boys years ago. They knocked on doors, got a look at the stuff in the house then offered an OTT amount for a modest item they didn't want - plus a little bit for whatever piece they really wanted that was of real value...[/p][/quote]Yes because there's no logical reason why he would want an injured, out of form Buckley. Buckley is a cover for his real prey I think. sussexram40

10:03pm Tue 31 Dec 13

brightonup says...

The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door.
Resist.....
The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door. Resist..... brightonup

10:17pm Tue 31 Dec 13

pte says...

ringtone wrote:
pte wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Several things don't add up...
Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k
Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him?
I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee!
Why no mention of Conway out of contract?
Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/23


703265
Nice stuff pte. Like your thinking.

But you should probably realise the dullards on here dont like to think too deeply and still believe in father xmas especially after that elf bloom got us a new stadium.
Yep, They all reckon Bridcutt should turn "relegation fodder" Sunderland down and stay at Brighton until Real Madrid come knocking! If in ten years it didnt happen he could look forward to a testimonial and a slap up do at the Grand

If any of the players were offered a Premiership contract by any club, they would be off like a shot. No Championship club including Leeds can hold onto a player offered a Prem contract

Robbie Savage's article should be read by everyone.

Get as much as you can for him and move on
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Several things don't add up... Conway has 4 months left of contracted football left at Cardiff, so his sale value is about 100k Buckley has a torn hamstring , yet Gus has bid for him? I expect bridcutt to go, Buckley to stay,,, and Conway to join on a undisclosed fee! Why no mention of Conway out of contract?[/p][/quote]Is Buckley really injury prone or is he pretending to engineer a move. Read Robbie Savage's article on how to engineer a move. Read it and you'll realise BHA might have to accept whatever they can get http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/23 703265[/p][/quote]Nice stuff pte. Like your thinking. But you should probably realise the dullards on here dont like to think too deeply and still believe in father xmas especially after that elf bloom got us a new stadium.[/p][/quote]Yep, They all reckon Bridcutt should turn "relegation fodder" Sunderland down and stay at Brighton until Real Madrid come knocking! If in ten years it didnt happen he could look forward to a testimonial and a slap up do at the Grand If any of the players were offered a Premiership contract by any club, they would be off like a shot. No Championship club including Leeds can hold onto a player offered a Prem contract Robbie Savage's article should be read by everyone. Get as much as you can for him and move on pte

10:20pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Iangira says...

I don`t think letting Ulloa, Buckley or Bridcutt is good business at the derisory prices mentioned and epecially to Sunderland. I don`t think Bloom will let it happen and any sale of players to Poyet will not go down well with SEASON TICKET holders. Of course there are players sometimes who want a move but it makes no sense for any player to leave Brighton unless he`s unhappy, especially to a club that will more than likely be relegated. If I was Bloom I`d never do any business with Poyet again. FULL STOP.
I don`t think letting Ulloa, Buckley or Bridcutt is good business at the derisory prices mentioned and epecially to Sunderland. I don`t think Bloom will let it happen and any sale of players to Poyet will not go down well with SEASON TICKET holders. Of course there are players sometimes who want a move but it makes no sense for any player to leave Brighton unless he`s unhappy, especially to a club that will more than likely be relegated. If I was Bloom I`d never do any business with Poyet again. FULL STOP. Iangira

10:29pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

brightonup wrote:
The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door.
Resist.....
brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..!

We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions...
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door. Resist.....[/p][/quote]brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..! We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions... Willie, Willie Irvine

10:37pm Tue 31 Dec 13

pte says...

Apart from the top 6 teams (no chance of a move there) that leaves just a handful of teams that are not "relegation fodder". Any team in the bottom half can get relegated. So Bridcutt cannot afford to be too picky.

If Bridcutt goes to Sunderland he knows Poyet will play him whereas even if he got a contract with a bigger club he might not get played so Sunderland is a good move not to mention the money
Apart from the top 6 teams (no chance of a move there) that leaves just a handful of teams that are not "relegation fodder". Any team in the bottom half can get relegated. So Bridcutt cannot afford to be too picky. If Bridcutt goes to Sunderland he knows Poyet will play him whereas even if he got a contract with a bigger club he might not get played so Sunderland is a good move not to mention the money pte

10:57pm Tue 31 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

pte wrote:
Apart from the top 6 teams (no chance of a move there) that leaves just a handful of teams that are not "relegation fodder". Any team in the bottom half can get relegated. So Bridcutt cannot afford to be too picky.

If Bridcutt goes to Sunderland he knows Poyet will play him whereas even if he got a contract with a bigger club he might not get played so Sunderland is a good move not to mention the money
Money talks, an extra £10k a WEEK and I would play for Palarse, lol.
If Liam signs for any prem team he will probably double his wages at least, a 3/4 year deal at probably £25/£30k a week could amount to £5/£6 million, who could turn that down. Hope he stays until end of season and helps us to promotion. 2-1 Albion tomorrow, Ulloa to get 1st goal. UTA
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: Apart from the top 6 teams (no chance of a move there) that leaves just a handful of teams that are not "relegation fodder". Any team in the bottom half can get relegated. So Bridcutt cannot afford to be too picky. If Bridcutt goes to Sunderland he knows Poyet will play him whereas even if he got a contract with a bigger club he might not get played so Sunderland is a good move not to mention the money[/p][/quote]Money talks, an extra £10k a WEEK and I would play for Palarse, lol. If Liam signs for any prem team he will probably double his wages at least, a 3/4 year deal at probably £25/£30k a week could amount to £5/£6 million, who could turn that down. Hope he stays until end of season and helps us to promotion. 2-1 Albion tomorrow, Ulloa to get 1st goal. UTA To baldly go

12:01am Wed 1 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Happy New Year to All fellow Albion supporters !. UTA
Happy New Year to All fellow Albion supporters !. UTA tug509

12:05am Wed 1 Jan 14

brightonup says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
brightonup wrote:
The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door.
Resist.....
brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..!

We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions...
Of course you are.
Happy New Year!
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door. Resist.....[/p][/quote]brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..! We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions...[/p][/quote]Of course you are. Happy New Year! brightonup

9:08am Wed 1 Jan 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

brightonup wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
brightonup wrote:
The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door.
Resist.....
brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..!

We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions...
Of course you are.
Happy New Year!
And the same to you brightonup, and the Albion!
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: The trolls are the one's getting their noses through the door. Resist.....[/p][/quote]brighton up, you remind me of a vicar standing outside a knocking shop every night to warn potential punters of the 'evils' inside - but who needs to go inside regularly to check the evils are still as bad as he feared..! We get your oft repeated point, but are grown up enough to make our own decisions...[/p][/quote]Of course you are. Happy New Year![/p][/quote]And the same to you brightonup, and the Albion! Willie, Willie Irvine

3:34pm Sun 5 Jan 14

ARMANA says...

Brighton are a selling club, always have been, always will be,
Brighton are a selling club, always have been, always will be, ARMANA

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