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Seagulls eye Cardiff's Mason as Barnes exit looms

The Argus: Joe Mason is wanted by Albion Joe Mason is wanted by Albion

Albion have Cardiff striker Joe Mason in their sights, with Ashley Barnes poised to complete a move to Burnley today.

Barnes is on the brink of joining the Lancastrians for an undisclosed fee, believed to be around £750,000, after passing a medical and agreeing personal terms yesterday on a three-and-a-half year contract.

The Seagulls have already added Jonathan Obika to their striker options on loan from Tottenham but they are expected to use the fee for Barnes and the funds committed to keeping him as part of a new contract offer in the summer to finance a replacement.

Mason is a candidate after finding himself surplus to requirements at Cardiff much like winger Craig Conway, who Albion want back after a successful loan spell.

The 22-year-old helped the Bluebirds win the Championship last season but has not featured for them in the Premier League this season.

Mason, a former team-mate of Barnes at Plymouth, recently returned from a loan stint at Bolton Wanderers. They are keen to re-sign him and Albion would also face competition from other Championship clubs for the £600,000-rated former Republic of Ireland under 21 international, who has scored 18 goals in 43 starts and 34 substitute appearances for Cardiff.

The Seagulls have decided to cash in on Barnes, rather than run the risk of losing him for nothing in the summer.

Leeds also wanted him but Burnley, currently second in the table, have been pursuing him since the August window, when they had three bids rejected.

The versatile Barnes, 24, notched 53 goals in 160 games for Albion, including 23 in 101 outings in the Championship and six in 24 appearances this season, after signing from Plymouth initially on loan in March 2010 and then permanently four months later for around £125,000.

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6:05am Fri 10 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans.

It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve!
I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans. It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve! WestStander17
  • Score: 7

6:14am Fri 10 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us.
Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us. Alfie T
  • Score: 8

6:20am Fri 10 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

Alfie T wrote:
Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us.
Do you think we need them? I'm not sure we do. My personal opinion is that we might be better off sitting on any money we receive until the summer when we know where we'll be playing. We are fairly well covered in all positions until then and do either of these two, although good players, improve the starting 11 all that much?
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us.[/p][/quote]Do you think we need them? I'm not sure we do. My personal opinion is that we might be better off sitting on any money we receive until the summer when we know where we'll be playing. We are fairly well covered in all positions until then and do either of these two, although good players, improve the starting 11 all that much? WestStander17
  • Score: 3

6:34am Fri 10 Jan 14

Alfie T says...

WestStander17 wrote:
Alfie T wrote:
Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us.
Do you think we need them? I'm not sure we do. My personal opinion is that we might be better off sitting on any money we receive until the summer when we know where we'll be playing. We are fairly well covered in all positions until then and do either of these two, although good players, improve the starting 11 all that much?
Conway got better and better and offers us cover in wide positions, Buckley could still go, hope he stays but both he and Kaz are injury prone as is Orlandi. Mason is a lively player, good pace, and a decent finisher so I would like them both.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Hopefully Nooney will put in a good word for us and both Mason and Conway will join us.[/p][/quote]Do you think we need them? I'm not sure we do. My personal opinion is that we might be better off sitting on any money we receive until the summer when we know where we'll be playing. We are fairly well covered in all positions until then and do either of these two, although good players, improve the starting 11 all that much?[/p][/quote]Conway got better and better and offers us cover in wide positions, Buckley could still go, hope he stays but both he and Kaz are injury prone as is Orlandi. Mason is a lively player, good pace, and a decent finisher so I would like them both. Alfie T
  • Score: 16

8:05am Fri 10 Jan 14

bbb1969 says...

Strage adding strikers. I understand the loan Obika but if he performs then you would want to make permanent. Having Mason as ours is good if Obika does not do well as long as Mason is good. I am thinking that CMS is a longer term problem and will not feature this year unless Ulloa is going which I hope is not the case.
Strange times so I am thinking we may start using 2 strikers at front and swapping it around a bit. Also Dickenson must be a bit annoyed with all these strikers coming in.
Strage adding strikers. I understand the loan Obika but if he performs then you would want to make permanent. Having Mason as ours is good if Obika does not do well as long as Mason is good. I am thinking that CMS is a longer term problem and will not feature this year unless Ulloa is going which I hope is not the case. Strange times so I am thinking we may start using 2 strikers at front and swapping it around a bit. Also Dickenson must be a bit annoyed with all these strikers coming in. bbb1969
  • Score: 3

8:15am Fri 10 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

bbb1969 wrote:
Strage adding strikers. I understand the loan Obika but if he performs then you would want to make permanent. Having Mason as ours is good if Obika does not do well as long as Mason is good. I am thinking that CMS is a longer term problem and will not feature this year unless Ulloa is going which I hope is not the case.
Strange times so I am thinking we may start using 2 strikers at front and swapping it around a bit. Also Dickenson must be a bit annoyed with all these strikers coming in.
Agree about the possible CMS situation. My guess is that the club hoped he would be fit enough to rejoin the squad by now, but not the case. Perhaps with Obika and possibly Mason on board the situation will be made clearer by the club.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: Strage adding strikers. I understand the loan Obika but if he performs then you would want to make permanent. Having Mason as ours is good if Obika does not do well as long as Mason is good. I am thinking that CMS is a longer term problem and will not feature this year unless Ulloa is going which I hope is not the case. Strange times so I am thinking we may start using 2 strikers at front and swapping it around a bit. Also Dickenson must be a bit annoyed with all these strikers coming in.[/p][/quote]Agree about the possible CMS situation. My guess is that the club hoped he would be fit enough to rejoin the squad by now, but not the case. Perhaps with Obika and possibly Mason on board the situation will be made clearer by the club. dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

8:49am Fri 10 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Strange that a few short weeks ago we were worried we were short on the striker dept--and now-----!!
Strange that a few short weeks ago we were worried we were short on the striker dept--and now-----!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

9:07am Fri 10 Jan 14

Simon Mew says...

I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front.

As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS.

After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.
I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me. Simon Mew
  • Score: 7

9:42am Fri 10 Jan 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

WestStander17 wrote:
I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans.

It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve!
Ulloa has a tendency to get injured. We have no idea what CMS will be like when he returns, and we don't know what Obika is like. As it stands, if Ulloa gets injured again we could be screwed. And besides Obika is on a short loan contract and we saw with Lita that Oscar will favour permanent players over loanees which, if nothing else, makes good business sense. Getting a young striker in on a permanent contract would both provide cover and competition for Ulloa. I know little about Mason as well, but I think that if we can get a young player like this in now, and a central defender in summer then we'll be sorted for a serious promotion push next season (if we don't go up anyway).
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans. It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve![/p][/quote]Ulloa has a tendency to get injured. We have no idea what CMS will be like when he returns, and we don't know what Obika is like. As it stands, if Ulloa gets injured again we could be screwed. And besides Obika is on a short loan contract and we saw with Lita that Oscar will favour permanent players over loanees which, if nothing else, makes good business sense. Getting a young striker in on a permanent contract would both provide cover and competition for Ulloa. I know little about Mason as well, but I think that if we can get a young player like this in now, and a central defender in summer then we'll be sorted for a serious promotion push next season (if we don't go up anyway). AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: -1

9:54am Fri 10 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

Simon Mew wrote:
I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.
Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.
[quote][p][bold]Simon Mew[/bold] wrote: I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.[/p][/quote]Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were. Claude Back
  • Score: -7

10:10am Fri 10 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
WestStander17 wrote:
I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans.

It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve!
Ulloa has a tendency to get injured. We have no idea what CMS will be like when he returns, and we don't know what Obika is like. As it stands, if Ulloa gets injured again we could be screwed. And besides Obika is on a short loan contract and we saw with Lita that Oscar will favour permanent players over loanees which, if nothing else, makes good business sense. Getting a young striker in on a permanent contract would both provide cover and competition for Ulloa. I know little about Mason as well, but I think that if we can get a young player like this in now, and a central defender in summer then we'll be sorted for a serious promotion push next season (if we don't go up anyway).
Exactly.
Focusing on the position of striker (a key position if we really want to have a chance of promotion this season, and starting with the run of games from tomorrow), all we have is:
Ulloa - regaining match fitness and prone to injuries
Obika - short term loan
CMS - injured and prone to more
Hoskins - the same

We were light on strikers even with Barnes, so the Club are quite rightly looking at further acquisitions a.s.a.p.
Either that, or if those on here who want the Albion to wait and rebuild in the Summer, get their wish .... then this season will fizzle out with a simple lack of goals.

So we need to buy a quality striker or two in this window, and the sooner the better.
[quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: I must admit I don't know an awful lot about Mason. From what I've read, he sounds like a hardworking forward and only seen good reports from Cardiff fans. It is curious how we have been loaning and looking to add strikers when there is no other sign that Oscar is considering playing 2 strikers. Leo is always going to be first choice so its always hard to see how the new recruits will play without something happening to Leo (heaven forbid!). Obviously, one back-up striker is advisable. We have that now in Obika. If we get Mason, that could mean one of them outside the 18 already. Then when CMS returns, we'd potentially have 4 players vying for 1 position! Seems a little excessive. Unless Oscar has a surprise up his highly fashionable sleeve![/p][/quote]Ulloa has a tendency to get injured. We have no idea what CMS will be like when he returns, and we don't know what Obika is like. As it stands, if Ulloa gets injured again we could be screwed. And besides Obika is on a short loan contract and we saw with Lita that Oscar will favour permanent players over loanees which, if nothing else, makes good business sense. Getting a young striker in on a permanent contract would both provide cover and competition for Ulloa. I know little about Mason as well, but I think that if we can get a young player like this in now, and a central defender in summer then we'll be sorted for a serious promotion push next season (if we don't go up anyway).[/p][/quote]Exactly. Focusing on the position of striker (a key position if we really want to have a chance of promotion this season, and starting with the run of games from tomorrow), all we have is: Ulloa - regaining match fitness and prone to injuries Obika - short term loan CMS - injured and prone to more Hoskins - the same We were light on strikers even with Barnes, so the Club are quite rightly looking at further acquisitions a.s.a.p. Either that, or if those on here who want the Albion to wait and rebuild in the Summer, get their wish .... then this season will fizzle out with a simple lack of goals. So we need to buy a quality striker or two in this window, and the sooner the better. Withdean-er
  • Score: -3

10:17am Fri 10 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

"CMS - injured and prone to more"

Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone.
"CMS - injured and prone to more" Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

10:20am Fri 10 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
"CMS - injured and prone to more"

Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone.
Exactly.. And hasn't Ulloa only had the 1 injury too?

Confused by some of these comments
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: "CMS - injured and prone to more" Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone.[/p][/quote]Exactly.. And hasn't Ulloa only had the 1 injury too? Confused by some of these comments SMF20
  • Score: 10

10:48am Fri 10 Jan 14

falmer seagull says...

Conway's excellent ball crossing will be significant with Leo in the middle!
Conway's excellent ball crossing will be significant with Leo in the middle! falmer seagull
  • Score: 3

11:28am Fri 10 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Simon Mew wrote:
I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.
Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.
Claude - tippy tappy? What planet are you on ? Our 'slow ponderous' style has won us League 1 by a country mile and got us 10th and 4th in the Championship, not to mention knocking the odd PL club out of cup competitions. Oh, and it's so unpopular with the fans that we have the highest attendances in the Championship despite having the highest prices.

By faster passing and attacking I assume you mean lumping it up the pitch or down the channels for our two forwards to run onto? I know a club just up the A23 that play that way.

Getting back to the topic - Barnes was a forward who was often played in a wide attacking midfield role, and I am sure the same could apply to other forwards in the squad - existing or yet to be acquired. Playing one up front doesn't mean only one forward on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon Mew[/bold] wrote: I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.[/p][/quote]Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.[/p][/quote]Claude - tippy tappy? What planet are you on ? Our 'slow ponderous' style has won us League 1 by a country mile and got us 10th and 4th in the Championship, not to mention knocking the odd PL club out of cup competitions. Oh, and it's so unpopular with the fans that we have the highest attendances in the Championship despite having the highest prices. By faster passing and attacking I assume you mean lumping it up the pitch or down the channels for our two forwards to run onto? I know a club just up the A23 that play that way. Getting back to the topic - Barnes was a forward who was often played in a wide attacking midfield role, and I am sure the same could apply to other forwards in the squad - existing or yet to be acquired. Playing one up front doesn't mean only one forward on the pitch. Chi Gull
  • Score: 8

12:56pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Never plan to fail but if you fail to plan, you will indeed fail.

These possible striker signings might be a part of what is to come for Brighton. Obika could be on a 93 day trial period, so possibly a contract player for next year, at the right price
Mason, if we get him, comes in on a 2 or 3 year deal, that's him sorted for next year.
CMS, eventually, proves his fitness and gets a few matches in before the end of this season, another striker for next year, that's three, no more needed.
Big money offer is made for Ulloa and accepted, we now have the finances for extensive rebuild next year. Very little cash goes out but a whole lot comes in, Oscar has good money to work with and we will be FFP compliant for next year.

Sounds crazy doesn't it.
Never plan to fail but if you fail to plan, you will indeed fail. These possible striker signings might be a part of what is to come for Brighton. Obika could be on a 93 day trial period, so possibly a contract player for next year, at the right price Mason, if we get him, comes in on a 2 or 3 year deal, that's him sorted for next year. CMS, eventually, proves his fitness and gets a few matches in before the end of this season, another striker for next year, that's three, no more needed. Big money offer is made for Ulloa and accepted, we now have the finances for extensive rebuild next year. Very little cash goes out but a whole lot comes in, Oscar has good money to work with and we will be FFP compliant for next year. Sounds crazy doesn't it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

1:03pm Fri 10 Jan 14

a1a1a1 says...

Mason scored 1 goal in 8 matches at Bolton on loan - hardly prolific stats. Also can't get a game in a team struggling in the Premiership. So if the Albion do get promoted, he would be struggle to get a match I would have thought too - so be shipped out on loan again. Think we need to aim higher for players who may cut it in the Premiership and not those who are unable to get a game currently in that league
Mason scored 1 goal in 8 matches at Bolton on loan - hardly prolific stats. Also can't get a game in a team struggling in the Premiership. So if the Albion do get promoted, he would be struggle to get a match I would have thought too - so be shipped out on loan again. Think we need to aim higher for players who may cut it in the Premiership and not those who are unable to get a game currently in that league a1a1a1
  • Score: 2

1:28pm Fri 10 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

a1a1a1 wrote:
Mason scored 1 goal in 8 matches at Bolton on loan - hardly prolific stats. Also can't get a game in a team struggling in the Premiership. So if the Albion do get promoted, he would be struggle to get a match I would have thought too - so be shipped out on loan again. Think we need to aim higher for players who may cut it in the Premiership and not those who are unable to get a game currently in that league
Conway can't get a game at Cardiff either, are you saying that we shouldn't try to sign him?
Brighton can't build a prem squad whilst in the champ div, the best we can do is hold on to those we have that, 'might,' make it in the prem and that is terribly hard to do.
Today we have resources to, buy/borrow, players that might get us promoted and if they do, we build for first year survival.
[quote][p][bold]a1a1a1[/bold] wrote: Mason scored 1 goal in 8 matches at Bolton on loan - hardly prolific stats. Also can't get a game in a team struggling in the Premiership. So if the Albion do get promoted, he would be struggle to get a match I would have thought too - so be shipped out on loan again. Think we need to aim higher for players who may cut it in the Premiership and not those who are unable to get a game currently in that league[/p][/quote]Conway can't get a game at Cardiff either, are you saying that we shouldn't try to sign him? Brighton can't build a prem squad whilst in the champ div, the best we can do is hold on to those we have that, 'might,' make it in the prem and that is terribly hard to do. Today we have resources to, buy/borrow, players that might get us promoted and if they do, we build for first year survival. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:18pm Fri 10 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
Simon Mew wrote:
I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.
Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.
Claude - tippy tappy? What planet are you on ? Our 'slow ponderous' style has won us League 1 by a country mile and got us 10th and 4th in the Championship, not to mention knocking the odd PL club out of cup competitions. Oh, and it's so unpopular with the fans that we have the highest attendances in the Championship despite having the highest prices.

By faster passing and attacking I assume you mean lumping it up the pitch or down the channels for our two forwards to run onto? I know a club just up the A23 that play that way.

Getting back to the topic - Barnes was a forward who was often played in a wide attacking midfield role, and I am sure the same could apply to other forwards in the squad - existing or yet to be acquired. Playing one up front doesn't mean only one forward on the pitch.
Terrific post ,makes me laugh when some of these unfounded stats pop up as facts ,but i love it when someone uses common sense and true facts to educate those in most need . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon Mew[/bold] wrote: I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.[/p][/quote]Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.[/p][/quote]Claude - tippy tappy? What planet are you on ? Our 'slow ponderous' style has won us League 1 by a country mile and got us 10th and 4th in the Championship, not to mention knocking the odd PL club out of cup competitions. Oh, and it's so unpopular with the fans that we have the highest attendances in the Championship despite having the highest prices. By faster passing and attacking I assume you mean lumping it up the pitch or down the channels for our two forwards to run onto? I know a club just up the A23 that play that way. Getting back to the topic - Barnes was a forward who was often played in a wide attacking midfield role, and I am sure the same could apply to other forwards in the squad - existing or yet to be acquired. Playing one up front doesn't mean only one forward on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Terrific post ,makes me laugh when some of these unfounded stats pop up as facts ,but i love it when someone uses common sense and true facts to educate those in most need . UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

2:38pm Fri 10 Jan 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
"CMS - injured and prone to more"

Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone.
He will be at an increased risk of injuries as he works he way back to match fitness after such a long time out. He might also have lost some pace. We don't know, but I wouldn't rely on CMS getting back up to speed until Easter.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: "CMS - injured and prone to more" Other than his current injury (he's back in training so will be back in a very few weeks) how many injuries has he suffered with us? Injured injury prone.[/p][/quote]He will be at an increased risk of injuries as he works he way back to match fitness after such a long time out. He might also have lost some pace. We don't know, but I wouldn't rely on CMS getting back up to speed until Easter. AburridoEnTrabajo
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8:42pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Simon Mew wrote:
I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.
Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.
It is the best football I have seen consistently from an Albion side since I recently started going to games just 30 years ago. But I guess I am a JCL so what do I know?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simon Mew[/bold] wrote: I don't understand the complaining about having strikers when we play one up front. As a squad we need 4 fit strikers, we have 1 now in Ulloa. So we have added Obika on loan as cover for CMS and bringing Mason in would be 3 plus we have the injured Hoskins, so we are still 1 short. The key is OPTIONS. After 2 1/2 seasons of the best Albion football most people have ever seen the criticism of the playing style astounds me.[/p][/quote]Simon, you clearly haven't been watching the Albion for many years if you think we have had the best football ever over the last few years. Either that or you don't see much football in general. We have done well in terms of results but a lot of the play has been ponderous tippy tappy stuff in our own half without much penetration. Look at some old videos of even only a few decades back to see how much faster at passing and attacking we were.[/p][/quote]It is the best football I have seen consistently from an Albion side since I recently started going to games just 30 years ago. But I guess I am a JCL so what do I know? Baldseagull
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