Albion talking point: What do you make of El-Abd's departure?

The Argus: Adam El-Abd Adam El-Abd

Brighton boy Adam El-Abd is leaving Albion after exactly 300 league appearances for his local club.

But how big a blow is it for the Seagulls as they plot a play-off push?

Are you surprised he is leaving or do you understand his frustration at being seen as a back-up option?

And, if he felt he had to go, are you surprised he has been tempted away by a club battling against the drop in League One?

What do you make of probably the biggest shock yet in Albion’s transfer window dealings?

We’d love to know your thoughts.

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6:08pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Brendanp64 says...

Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision
Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision Brendanp64

6:09pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Sorry to see him go, but I hope the move brings him a better chance of a space in the Egypt squad.
Good luck Adam, and I will put a quid on Bristol beating the drop now.
Sorry to see him go, but I hope the move brings him a better chance of a space in the Egypt squad. Good luck Adam, and I will put a quid on Bristol beating the drop now. Baldseagull

6:10pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Aylesburyseagull says...

Gutted. Adam has been a solid defender for us, and to see him leave is a sad day for us fans.
I remember at the end of the Wolves game when he was leaving the Amex, as his wife walked with the buggy, the fans were chanting his name, so I decided to start 'Mrs. El-Abd, do do do do do', to which everyone joined in. Poor girl was so embarrassed, but still gave a little wave.

Good luck at Bristol Adam, going to miss you
Gutted. Adam has been a solid defender for us, and to see him leave is a sad day for us fans. I remember at the end of the Wolves game when he was leaving the Amex, as his wife walked with the buggy, the fans were chanting his name, so I decided to start 'Mrs. El-Abd, do do do do do', to which everyone joined in. Poor girl was so embarrassed, but still gave a little wave. Good luck at Bristol Adam, going to miss you Aylesburyseagull

6:13pm Thu 16 Jan 14

brianw52 says...

Very sad and surprised to see him go. Upson and Greer are great, but age is against them. Dunk lost his way a while back, so hopefully there's another signing in the pipeline.
Very sad and surprised to see him go. Upson and Greer are great, but age is against them. Dunk lost his way a while back, so hopefully there's another signing in the pipeline. brianw52

6:14pm Thu 16 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

Adam the PLAYER can be replaced and hopefully by someone that can take us to the next level..

Adam the PERSON will be very much missed imho.. A Brighton stalwart, a true professional and a fantastic ambassor and role model for our club.

I will personally miss him as I think he had a greT relationship with us fans... One of us if you like.

Good luck to him.
Adam the PLAYER can be replaced and hopefully by someone that can take us to the next level.. Adam the PERSON will be very much missed imho.. A Brighton stalwart, a true professional and a fantastic ambassor and role model for our club. I will personally miss him as I think he had a greT relationship with us fans... One of us if you like. Good luck to him. SMF20

6:14pm Thu 16 Jan 14

WoodingdeanDS says...

If AE is not deemed good enough to stay then Greer should be next.
If AE is not deemed good enough to stay then Greer should be next. WoodingdeanDS

6:17pm Thu 16 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Brendanp64 wrote:
Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision
So much for the education system under the Tories
[quote][p][bold]Brendanp64[/bold] wrote: Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision[/p][/quote]So much for the education system under the Tories dave from bexill

6:19pm Thu 16 Jan 14

hubby says...

Adam has done really well for the club,but is not the way forward and the move makes sense.
Good luck curly!!
Adam has done really well for the club,but is not the way forward and the move makes sense. Good luck curly!! hubby

6:19pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Grendel says...

I'm guessing Adam wanted to play football, at this stage in his career. Presumably Dunk will be stepping in, and the wages/ fee will help fund Grabban. A big shock though. Sad to see him leave.
I'm guessing Adam wanted to play football, at this stage in his career. Presumably Dunk will be stepping in, and the wages/ fee will help fund Grabban. A big shock though. Sad to see him leave. Grendel

6:22pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban.
Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban. VegasSeagull

6:29pm Thu 16 Jan 14

MLEE says...

It seems Dunk will now be the back up and that young Arsenal defender (name ? ) will move up to the main squad........well maybe !!!!!! .I shall miss Adam.
It seems Dunk will now be the back up and that young Arsenal defender (name ? ) will move up to the main squad........well maybe !!!!!! .I shall miss Adam. MLEE

6:31pm Thu 16 Jan 14

hannover seagull says...

There must be contract issues involved here just like AB
If another club is offering security for family and so on you have to take it
Adam has probably gone as far as he can with us and this is the right move for him
He has passion for the game and want´s to play and will get a start at Bristol
I thank you Adam for all you have done for us and you won´t be forgotten
Good luck
UTA........
There must be contract issues involved here just like AB If another club is offering security for family and so on you have to take it Adam has probably gone as far as he can with us and this is the right move for him He has passion for the game and want´s to play and will get a start at Bristol I thank you Adam for all you have done for us and you won´t be forgotten Good luck UTA........ hannover seagull

6:33pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

Can't really comment without knowing the transfer fee but it suggests we may have someone else lined up
Can't really comment without knowing the transfer fee but it suggests we may have someone else lined up Andrea Orlandigasm

6:34pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Question.

Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million.

A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season.
Question. Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million. A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season. VegasSeagull

6:34pm Thu 16 Jan 14

SecondReserve says...

I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well.

Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban.

So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window?

At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players.

Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd?

It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future.
I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well. Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban. So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window? At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players. Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd? It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future. SecondReserve

6:36pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Maybe being dropped back to the bench after playing his socks off in Greer's absence was the final straw for the lad. However, I find it all very odd right at this time and was very surprised.
Adam is a great acquisition for City and I wish him every success in his new life. I'm sure he'll fire them up the table.
Maybe being dropped back to the bench after playing his socks off in Greer's absence was the final straw for the lad. However, I find it all very odd right at this time and was very surprised. Adam is a great acquisition for City and I wish him every success in his new life. I'm sure he'll fire them up the table. Willie, Willie Irvine

6:44pm Thu 16 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

Second reserve. Excellent comment. We now have the feel of a club very much in trasnsition. Just when we thought the first team didn't need transition, just strengthening. However, we should all reserve our judgement until the end of January and further, until the end of the season. We can do no more than wish our exiting players, especially Ash, Adam El Abd and soon Bridders, the very best while hoping any incoming players quickly adapt to our style and team ethos. UTA
Second reserve. Excellent comment. We now have the feel of a club very much in trasnsition. Just when we thought the first team didn't need transition, just strengthening. However, we should all reserve our judgement until the end of January and further, until the end of the season. We can do no more than wish our exiting players, especially Ash, Adam El Abd and soon Bridders, the very best while hoping any incoming players quickly adapt to our style and team ethos. UTA kwaidam

6:45pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Albion fan in London says...

Adams time at the club has been one of total dedication from his part and I wish him all the best for the future. Look at how he has changed as a player especially under GP good luck to him. We need a younger cb to replace Upson and GG eventually I hope we get this sorted asap
Adams time at the club has been one of total dedication from his part and I wish him all the best for the future. Look at how he has changed as a player especially under GP good luck to him. We need a younger cb to replace Upson and GG eventually I hope we get this sorted asap Albion fan in London

6:47pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Goo luck Adam a solid player but not good enough to be in prem where we want to be.

Looking forward to see who is coming in

UTA. In Oscar I trust let's go upwards now
Goo luck Adam a solid player but not good enough to be in prem where we want to be. Looking forward to see who is coming in UTA. In Oscar I trust let's go upwards now Tonyuk175

6:47pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Question.

Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million.

A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season.
Yep, expiring contracts this summer include Lopez, Orlandi, Bruno, TK, Andrews, Ward & Upson. I don't know what Calde's contract is, Greer has one more season.

Freshen the squad up now for a good end of season and then another overhaul whether promoted or not and ready for the next season. I suspect that next season we won't even recognise the team as a Poyet one.

The players we have brought in and are targeting have pace which is one thing we have lacked.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Question. Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million. A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season.[/p][/quote]Yep, expiring contracts this summer include Lopez, Orlandi, Bruno, TK, Andrews, Ward & Upson. I don't know what Calde's contract is, Greer has one more season. Freshen the squad up now for a good end of season and then another overhaul whether promoted or not and ready for the next season. I suspect that next season we won't even recognise the team as a Poyet one. The players we have brought in and are targeting have pace which is one thing we have lacked. Hovite

6:48pm Thu 16 Jan 14

daughter-of-manag says...

I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent. daughter-of-manag

6:49pm Thu 16 Jan 14

RobD21 says...

So gutted about this, Adam is a wonderful player and great pro. Surprised he's dropped down a league as he can definetly cut it at championship level. Great addition for Bristol City though. Good luck Adam, thankyou for the memories!
So gutted about this, Adam is a wonderful player and great pro. Surprised he's dropped down a league as he can definetly cut it at championship level. Great addition for Bristol City though. Good luck Adam, thankyou for the memories! RobD21

6:56pm Thu 16 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Question.

Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million.

A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season.
I have absolutely no doubts at all, Vegas, that Bridcutt will shortly be a Sunderland player. I expect our former manager to up the bid to £3.5/4 million and that will secure the deal. I expect a centre back to arrive to replace Adam. With the versatility of Grabban, I think the Conway deal may not happen.....unless Buckley leaves. Like you, I am very worried by the loss of Crofts because Augustein and JFC do not fill me with confidence as adequate replacements so is there a midfielder on the radar.?
Switching to selling issues - as I'm on a roll now - I do wish our former manager would hurry up and secure his apparent number one target, a goalkeeper so we could all rest easy. I also wonder who will be lined up should Fletcher leave. Interesting times, but despite my great disappoinment at seeing the legendary Adam depart, I retain full confidence in Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Question. Does anyone think that we are getting a head start on next summer's rebuild, and will we see more action in the market when Bridcutt goes for a few million. A mini clear out now, at a time when money is being offered for our players, money we might not have been offered in the closed period of the summer. We really do need to pay close attention to who we buy, not borrow but buy because those we spend money on won't be just for the rest of this season.[/p][/quote]I have absolutely no doubts at all, Vegas, that Bridcutt will shortly be a Sunderland player. I expect our former manager to up the bid to £3.5/4 million and that will secure the deal. I expect a centre back to arrive to replace Adam. With the versatility of Grabban, I think the Conway deal may not happen.....unless Buckley leaves. Like you, I am very worried by the loss of Crofts because Augustein and JFC do not fill me with confidence as adequate replacements so is there a midfielder on the radar.? Switching to selling issues - as I'm on a roll now - I do wish our former manager would hurry up and secure his apparent number one target, a goalkeeper so we could all rest easy. I also wonder who will be lined up should Fletcher leave. Interesting times, but despite my great disappoinment at seeing the legendary Adam depart, I retain full confidence in Oscar. wiseman of hove

6:58pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

SecondReserve wrote:
I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well.

Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban.

So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window?

At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players.

Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd?

It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One could take all negatives you have mentioned and turn them into positives.

Sold Barnes bought Grabban, to many that will be seen as a positive.
Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we have had good results with Bridcutt not in the side.
Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we will have good money for future purchases.
Sell El-Abd, maybe 500K, not a must to replace right now, money in the bank.
Sell El-Abd, this move is for him, payback for all his years of service, he wanted to go so as to get regular starts, starts he would not get with us, and a 3 year deal to boot.
Sell Barker and Dickenson, not big money but money, and neither really made the grade with us, better than paying them off in the summer.
Letting our first team players go, well only one regular starter has gone, Barnes. We have cover for El-Abd leaving and he wasn't a regular starter.
We have a small team mentality, should we not wait until the window closes and see just who we have on the books at that time.
[quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well. Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban. So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window? At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players. Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd? It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future.[/p][/quote]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One could take all negatives you have mentioned and turn them into positives. Sold Barnes bought Grabban, to many that will be seen as a positive. Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we have had good results with Bridcutt not in the side. Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we will have good money for future purchases. Sell El-Abd, maybe 500K, not a must to replace right now, money in the bank. Sell El-Abd, this move is for him, payback for all his years of service, he wanted to go so as to get regular starts, starts he would not get with us, and a 3 year deal to boot. Sell Barker and Dickenson, not big money but money, and neither really made the grade with us, better than paying them off in the summer. Letting our first team players go, well only one regular starter has gone, Barnes. We have cover for El-Abd leaving and he wasn't a regular starter. We have a small team mentality, should we not wait until the window closes and see just who we have on the books at that time. VegasSeagull

7:08pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
The 'big deal' is he is seen as BHA Through and through - in effect one of us. He has served the club, and us, for the best part of his football career through some very dark times for the club. You are a cold fish.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.[/p][/quote]The 'big deal' is he is seen as BHA Through and through - in effect one of us. He has served the club, and us, for the best part of his football career through some very dark times for the club. You are a cold fish. Willie, Willie Irvine

7:15pm Thu 16 Jan 14

farside says...

Always going to be third choice and rightly so in my view with every chance that Dunk coming back to form will push him further down the order.We need youth and pace and that will come in the summer. Right now AeA commands a fee though. In the summer he would more likely go for free.
All in all the right deal at the right time and hopefully over the next season or two he will help bring city back to the championship.

Impossible to imagine a player who improved so much and it says everything about the man. Hopefully we can all say goodbye properly with a testimonial next preseason.
Always going to be third choice and rightly so in my view with every chance that Dunk coming back to form will push him further down the order.We need youth and pace and that will come in the summer. Right now AeA commands a fee though. In the summer he would more likely go for free. All in all the right deal at the right time and hopefully over the next season or two he will help bring city back to the championship. Impossible to imagine a player who improved so much and it says everything about the man. Hopefully we can all say goodbye properly with a testimonial next preseason. farside

7:16pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Dannyhoops says...

So sorry to hear this news I think its a mistake for the Albion to let him go - why ?
He is BHA born and bred and he bleeds blue and white. He gives everything every time he plays you could not ask him to have given more. He has supported and served the Albion through difficult times and he can relate to the fans.
I think he will do well at Bristol and would like to thank him for his loyal service and all he has done to serve to the Seagulls. We will miss you Adam and I wish you and your family all the very best for the future.
So sorry to hear this news I think its a mistake for the Albion to let him go - why ? He is BHA born and bred and he bleeds blue and white. He gives everything every time he plays you could not ask him to have given more. He has supported and served the Albion through difficult times and he can relate to the fans. I think he will do well at Bristol and would like to thank him for his loyal service and all he has done to serve to the Seagulls. We will miss you Adam and I wish you and your family all the very best for the future. Dannyhoops

7:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

bbb1969 says...

I don't understand football anymore. El Abd to a league 1 club when there are championship clubs that will pay. Maybe it's the 3 year deal. I have to disagree with posts I have read about El Abds pace; in relation to who? Dunk, Greer, Upson. Let me tell you; they are all on a par for pace. Upson and Greers last season me thinks. Shocking sales if we have no one better lined up; great business if we have. Lets hope no injury to one of our cbs as we only have Dunk to cover. We maybe looking to start playing only 3 at the back and dare I say 2-3 actual forwards.
I don't understand football anymore. El Abd to a league 1 club when there are championship clubs that will pay. Maybe it's the 3 year deal. I have to disagree with posts I have read about El Abds pace; in relation to who? Dunk, Greer, Upson. Let me tell you; they are all on a par for pace. Upson and Greers last season me thinks. Shocking sales if we have no one better lined up; great business if we have. Lets hope no injury to one of our cbs as we only have Dunk to cover. We maybe looking to start playing only 3 at the back and dare I say 2-3 actual forwards. bbb1969

7:44pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

bbb1969 wrote:
I don't understand football anymore. El Abd to a league 1 club when there are championship clubs that will pay. Maybe it's the 3 year deal. I have to disagree with posts I have read about El Abds pace; in relation to who? Dunk, Greer, Upson. Let me tell you; they are all on a par for pace. Upson and Greers last season me thinks. Shocking sales if we have no one better lined up; great business if we have. Lets hope no injury to one of our cbs as we only have Dunk to cover. We maybe looking to start playing only 3 at the back and dare I say 2-3 actual forwards.
I think that you are right in so much that, all our back four, and cover options, are similar in terms of pace, and there lies the problem.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: I don't understand football anymore. El Abd to a league 1 club when there are championship clubs that will pay. Maybe it's the 3 year deal. I have to disagree with posts I have read about El Abds pace; in relation to who? Dunk, Greer, Upson. Let me tell you; they are all on a par for pace. Upson and Greers last season me thinks. Shocking sales if we have no one better lined up; great business if we have. Lets hope no injury to one of our cbs as we only have Dunk to cover. We maybe looking to start playing only 3 at the back and dare I say 2-3 actual forwards.[/p][/quote]I think that you are right in so much that, all our back four, and cover options, are similar in terms of pace, and there lies the problem. VegasSeagull

7:55pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

sad to see him go , hoping the recent departures are paving the way for a big sighning and keeping Bridcutt
sad to see him go , hoping the recent departures are paving the way for a big sighning and keeping Bridcutt Rougvie Legend

7:58pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Dolph Ins says...

At the Bournemouth match (I think) El Ab played with GG. GG always passed to El Ab and he was the creative one. He was marshalling the defence. I thought when Upson was back it would be GG dropping out. Yet again I am proved to not have a Scooby.

Thanks Adam you deserve the move if that is what you wanted.
At the Bournemouth match (I think) El Ab played with GG. GG always passed to El Ab and he was the creative one. He was marshalling the defence. I thought when Upson was back it would be GG dropping out. Yet again I am proved to not have a Scooby. Thanks Adam you deserve the move if that is what you wanted. Dolph Ins

8:00pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

A bit shocked by this news. Adam is a legend.
Clearly Adam wants first team football and it must be a wrench for him to leave but we must respect his decision. And the Club's.
Oscar is also looking to stamp his authority on the squad by freshening it up and I look forward to Adam's replacement although I think young Mr Dunk now has the opportunity to put the last year behind him and establish himself in the first team. He's certainly good enough if he applies himself to the job.
Good Luck to Adam and thanks for the great service he gave us. UTA
A bit shocked by this news. Adam is a legend. Clearly Adam wants first team football and it must be a wrench for him to leave but we must respect his decision. And the Club's. Oscar is also looking to stamp his authority on the squad by freshening it up and I look forward to Adam's replacement although I think young Mr Dunk now has the opportunity to put the last year behind him and establish himself in the first team. He's certainly good enough if he applies himself to the job. Good Luck to Adam and thanks for the great service he gave us. UTA Joel'sGrandad

8:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

And there goes a favourite north stand chorus :-(
And there goes a favourite north stand chorus :-( Rougvie Legend

8:04pm Thu 16 Jan 14

daughter-of-manag says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
daughter-of-manag wrote:
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
The 'big deal' is he is seen as BHA Through and through - in effect one of us. He has served the club, and us, for the best part of his football career through some very dark times for the club. You are a cold fish.
Not a cold fish - just a realist. The guy didn't want to sit on the sidelines, and he is an average player in terms of ability. Massive heart and he gives 100% - but - for flip sake - reading some of the posts, it's like a tragedy to many of you. Good luck Adam!
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.[/p][/quote]The 'big deal' is he is seen as BHA Through and through - in effect one of us. He has served the club, and us, for the best part of his football career through some very dark times for the club. You are a cold fish.[/p][/quote]Not a cold fish - just a realist. The guy didn't want to sit on the sidelines, and he is an average player in terms of ability. Massive heart and he gives 100% - but - for flip sake - reading some of the posts, it's like a tragedy to many of you. Good luck Adam! daughter-of-manag

8:10pm Thu 16 Jan 14

elljam says...

I'm surprised a struggling/mid-table Championship club didn't come in for him as I'm sure he could do a decent job for one. However as with Barnes I feel he falls short of the level needed for a Championship club chasing promotion.
I hope this gives Lewis Dunk an opportunity to show his worth. Failing that we sign a central defender with pace because as good as our defensive record is I feel that we defend too deep as a team . I would rather us push higher up the pitch pressing the opposition in their own half & a pacey centre back would make us less vulnerable doing this.
I'm surprised a struggling/mid-table Championship club didn't come in for him as I'm sure he could do a decent job for one. However as with Barnes I feel he falls short of the level needed for a Championship club chasing promotion. I hope this gives Lewis Dunk an opportunity to show his worth. Failing that we sign a central defender with pace because as good as our defensive record is I feel that we defend too deep as a team . I would rather us push higher up the pitch pressing the opposition in their own half & a pacey centre back would make us less vulnerable doing this. elljam

9:02pm Thu 16 Jan 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

I now worry that Calde may be the next to go on the basis that whenever Bruno returns from injury Calde loses his place as Adam did when Greer returned.
I now worry that Calde may be the next to go on the basis that whenever Bruno returns from injury Calde loses his place as Adam did when Greer returned. SeagullOverSelsey

9:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Broadwater Juice says...

Brendanp64 wrote:
Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision
Good Lord! Where to start!?...
[quote][p][bold]Brendanp64[/bold] wrote: Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision[/p][/quote]Good Lord! Where to start!?... Broadwater Juice

9:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Broadwater Juice says...

Brendanp64 wrote:
Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision
Good Lord!
Where to start!? ...
[quote][p][bold]Brendanp64[/bold] wrote: Rediculois that he has gone what is Garcia and jones doing we need to sign another defender winger and striker now cos we don't have enough back up in defence el and is a brilliant player and I will miss him more than Barnes stupid decision[/p][/quote]Good Lord! Where to start!? ... Broadwater Juice

9:38pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Adam was a committed but limited footballer. He has Ben fantastic for us in the past, but we are going upwards. Where would Adam sit in a PL squad? Nowhere, so it is good for him and Brighton that he goes now, with our admiration and thanks.
Adam was a committed but limited footballer. He has Ben fantastic for us in the past, but we are going upwards. Where would Adam sit in a PL squad? Nowhere, so it is good for him and Brighton that he goes now, with our admiration and thanks. Clean Sheet

10:29pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SecondReserve wrote:
I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well.

Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban.

So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window?

At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players.

Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd?

It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One could take all negatives you have mentioned and turn them into positives.

Sold Barnes bought Grabban, to many that will be seen as a positive.
Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we have had good results with Bridcutt not in the side.
Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we will have good money for future purchases.
Sell El-Abd, maybe 500K, not a must to replace right now, money in the bank.
Sell El-Abd, this move is for him, payback for all his years of service, he wanted to go so as to get regular starts, starts he would not get with us, and a 3 year deal to boot.
Sell Barker and Dickenson, not big money but money, and neither really made the grade with us, better than paying them off in the summer.
Letting our first team players go, well only one regular starter has gone, Barnes. We have cover for El-Abd leaving and he wasn't a regular starter.
We have a small team mentality, should we not wait until the window closes and see just who we have on the books at that time.
I'm sure I read that we've only got a five-figure sum for El-Abd.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SecondReserve[/bold] wrote: I must say I'm finding what's going on at the Albion at the moment rather confusing and somewhat worrying. Tony Bloom said there would be little or no activity in this transfer window. So far we've sold Barnes, El Abd and Barker with Dickenson and Bridcutt (in most people's view) probably going as well. Barnes has been a first team regular and, whilst he polarised views, he did pretty well for us and certainly gave 100%. El Abd has played a lot of matches for us, always gave 100% and was certainly a valuable squad member. Bridcutt has been our player of the season for the last 2 years, is arguably our best player and one of the few who is good enough for the Premiership. Barker and Dickenson were probably never going to be good enough for us. We've bought in Obika on loan and maybe we'll get Grabban. So why is all this happening. You improve your team by keeping your best players and bringing in more good players to improve the weaker areas of your team. How many other teams in the top half of the Championship are letting first team players leave in this window? At heart we still seem to have the small team mentality of a selling club. We did it a few years ago - Crofts, Bennett, Murray - but I had hoped that now we are a top half of the Championship team we would do better at keeping our players. Why didn't we sort Ashley's contract out? Despite the fact that he is under contract I expect we will sell Bridcutt basically because someone wants him. It's a squad game these days, El Abd has played a few matches recently and is a valuable squad member and is under contract. Ings is worth more than Bridcutt, Barnes and El Abd put together but Burnley are keeping him despite surviving on far smaller crowds than we get. I guess Grabban (assuming we get him) will count as a Barnes replacement but are we going to bring in better players to replace Bridcutt and El Abd? It's all rather odd given what Tony Bloom said and it gives me a nagging doubt as to how serious we are about getting to the Premiership in the near future.[/p][/quote]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One could take all negatives you have mentioned and turn them into positives. Sold Barnes bought Grabban, to many that will be seen as a positive. Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we have had good results with Bridcutt not in the side. Sell Bridcutt for a big fee, we will have good money for future purchases. Sell El-Abd, maybe 500K, not a must to replace right now, money in the bank. Sell El-Abd, this move is for him, payback for all his years of service, he wanted to go so as to get regular starts, starts he would not get with us, and a 3 year deal to boot. Sell Barker and Dickenson, not big money but money, and neither really made the grade with us, better than paying them off in the summer. Letting our first team players go, well only one regular starter has gone, Barnes. We have cover for El-Abd leaving and he wasn't a regular starter. We have a small team mentality, should we not wait until the window closes and see just who we have on the books at that time.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I read that we've only got a five-figure sum for El-Abd. Ex-pat Arnie

11:12pm Thu 16 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

a five figure sum would be up to 99,000, the transfer market web site has him valued at 850,000 now I don't think we got anywhere near that sum, but I would bet that it was around 400,000.
a five figure sum would be up to 99,000, the transfer market web site has him valued at 850,000 now I don't think we got anywhere near that sum, but I would bet that it was around 400,000. VegasSeagull

11:26pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Paul Clark Bites Yer Leg says...

A young centre back will be signed next week from one of our south coast neighbours!
A young centre back will be signed next week from one of our south coast neighbours! Paul Clark Bites Yer Leg

11:27pm Thu 16 Jan 14

tug509 says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?. tug509

11:28pm Thu 16 Jan 14

tug509 says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?. tug509

11:31pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Alison Smith says...

Good luck to him at Bristol.
Good luck to him at Bristol. Alison Smith

11:41pm Thu 16 Jan 14

brighton bluenose says...

hannover seagull wrote:
There must be contract issues involved here just like AB
If another club is offering security for family and so on you have to take it
Adam has probably gone as far as he can with us and this is the right move for him
He has passion for the game and want´s to play and will get a start at Bristol
I thank you Adam for all you have done for us and you won´t be forgotten
Good luck
UTA........
Nowt to do with 'contract issues' - AEL has thrown his toys out of the pram and fallen out with the management and as a result has been shown the door!!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: There must be contract issues involved here just like AB If another club is offering security for family and so on you have to take it Adam has probably gone as far as he can with us and this is the right move for him He has passion for the game and want´s to play and will get a start at Bristol I thank you Adam for all you have done for us and you won´t be forgotten Good luck UTA........[/p][/quote]Nowt to do with 'contract issues' - AEL has thrown his toys out of the pram and fallen out with the management and as a result has been shown the door!! brighton bluenose

11:44pm Thu 16 Jan 14

brighton bluenose says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban.
Total tosh - where is the cover for El-Abd?!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban.[/p][/quote]Total tosh - where is the cover for El-Abd?!! brighton bluenose

11:47pm Thu 16 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Adam El Abd .
Thanks for being reliable ,for always giving your all ,thanks for being a good mate to us supporters ,and thanks for being one of the most commited of tacklers ,you never bottled a challenge ,and apponents bloody well new it .
I wish you and your lovely family a great new start in your new home ,with a wicked manager ,that loves ya .
Hope we see you back here ,in a trainer roll ,after you help Bristol City back to the Championship . All the best Adam . UTC UTA
Adam El Abd . Thanks for being reliable ,for always giving your all ,thanks for being a good mate to us supporters ,and thanks for being one of the most commited of tacklers ,you never bottled a challenge ,and apponents bloody well new it . I wish you and your lovely family a great new start in your new home ,with a wicked manager ,that loves ya . Hope we see you back here ,in a trainer roll ,after you help Bristol City back to the Championship . All the best Adam . UTC UTA tug509

12:03am Fri 17 Jan 14

GeorgeBTN says...

All good as far as I am concerned. Recent transfers show that Brighton are thinking about the future. Well done to all players leaving and everything they have done for the club. Top clubs aren't sentimental about players moving on and neither should the Albion. Onwards and upwards!
All good as far as I am concerned. Recent transfers show that Brighton are thinking about the future. Well done to all players leaving and everything they have done for the club. Top clubs aren't sentimental about players moving on and neither should the Albion. Onwards and upwards! GeorgeBTN

12:21am Fri 17 Jan 14

kevbha says...

Only one word sums it up gutted all the best Adam you will be missed more than you know
Only one word sums it up gutted all the best Adam you will be missed more than you know kevbha

1:08am Fri 17 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban.
Total tosh - where is the cover for El-Abd?!!
are you nuts, cover for a cover player?
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Looks like a strategic move made at the right time for both player and club. Bristol, 'need,' Adam right now and I am sure that they have paid a price that reflects their needs. Adam, 'needs,' to be playing to have any chance of figuring the Egyptian world cup squad. Our squad, 'needs,' some pace injected at the back, if we buy I am sure that the incoming player will have that much needed pace and will challenge the old guard for a starting spot. Adam might be the player that we don't replace at this time, we do have cover even without Adam. The loss of Crofts is a problem yet to be resolved, the money from the sale of Adam and Dickenson, plus more from our own coffers, might well go into solving the Crofts problem, just like the sale of Barnes and Barker looks like being used to get Grabban.[/p][/quote]Total tosh - where is the cover for El-Abd?!![/p][/quote]are you nuts, cover for a cover player? VegasSeagull

3:34am Fri 17 Jan 14

daughter-of-manag says...

tug509 wrote:
daughter-of-manag wrote:
I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.
Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?.
If you think of AE as a Lada, do you think that there could be a 'better' option in terms of cars? I can't quite see how you see him being a Prem or top Championship player?
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: I can't see what the big deal is? He has been a great servant for the club, but a player with average ability. Good for him - and good for BHA to move on and invest in better talent.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could avail us of this better talent ?.[/p][/quote]If you think of AE as a Lada, do you think that there could be a 'better' option in terms of cars? I can't quite see how you see him being a Prem or top Championship player? daughter-of-manag

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