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Bridcutt saga must be settled says Oscar

The Argus: Liam Bridcutt's Albion future needs to be settled Liam Bridcutt's Albion future needs to be settled

Albion boss Oscar Garcia has urged the club to solve the Liam Bridcutt saga as swiftly as possible.

Oscar wanted the fit-again midfielder in his squad for Saturday’s 1-0 defeat at Derby County.

Bridcutt still a transfer target for Sunderland, has recovered from a groin injury and trained with the first team at The Amex on Friday morning.

But he later told the management staff he was not in the right frame of mind to play and did not make the trip to the East Midlands.

Oscar told The Argus: “The sooner we solve this the better it will be for the team.

“It’s a problem between him and the club. My job is to have most of the players, or all of the players, fit enough to play, to train with them and to improve them. “We spoke with him and he was honest. He said what he said and that’s it. All the players that played were focused on the game and gave 100 per cent. That is the most important thing for me.”

Asked if the club should take disciplinary action against Bridcutt, Oscar said: “I don’t know. I want to be focused on the players that want to play and want to fight for the team.”

Substitute Patrick Bamford’s second-half goal for Derby knocked Albion straight back out of the Championship play-off zone into seventh, two points adrift of Reading.

“I think we played really well against the top scoring team in the league,” Oscar said. “They only created one half-chance but they scored. That was the difference.”

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5:47am Mon 20 Jan 14

Albion fan in London says...

This is now costing us sell him on and let's get on with the rest of the season. What's annoying is it's GP causing us more trouble
This is now costing us sell him on and let's get on with the rest of the season. What's annoying is it's GP causing us more trouble Albion fan in London
  • Score: 14

6:31am Mon 20 Jan 14

saraman says...

Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this.

Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours.

Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week.
Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this. Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours. Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week. saraman
  • Score: 20

7:06am Mon 20 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes.

The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish.
OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve.
All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so.

OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table.
I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes. The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish. OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve. All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so. OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table. SMF20
  • Score: 21

7:07am Mon 20 Jan 14

Cory and Trevor says...

Bridcutt is out of order here, and totally unprofessional. He is under contract with us, ie is in a mutually committed agreement with the club to play football. To pull out of a game because he can't stop thinking about going somewhere else is pathetic, actually.
He and GP are well suited prima donnas who put themselves first despite the commitment shown to them. Am right off LB now, the sooner he goes the better.
Bridcutt is out of order here, and totally unprofessional. He is under contract with us, ie is in a mutually committed agreement with the club to play football. To pull out of a game because he can't stop thinking about going somewhere else is pathetic, actually. He and GP are well suited prima donnas who put themselves first despite the commitment shown to them. Am right off LB now, the sooner he goes the better. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 30

7:22am Mon 20 Jan 14

oksouthstander says...

Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap.
Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap. oksouthstander
  • Score: 3

7:46am Mon 20 Jan 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Of course he should be disciplined - e is under contract to play and deciding he is 'not in the right frame of mind' is self indulgent, childish nonsense. Given his previous exemplary professionalism I'm amazed that he can come out with such a statement. A swift and heavy fine may serve to wake him up.
Of course he should be disciplined - e is under contract to play and deciding he is 'not in the right frame of mind' is self indulgent, childish nonsense. Given his previous exemplary professionalism I'm amazed that he can come out with such a statement. A swift and heavy fine may serve to wake him up. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 18

7:49am Mon 20 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Think we should sell that is football and good luck to LB but At The RIGHT PRICE

Let's get a couple of good signings billy sharpe, becchio, a centre back and maybe Vicente someone who can add that final pass to finish games

Then we're be back well and truly in the top six

Just hope CMS IS BACK SOON

UTA
Think we should sell that is football and good luck to LB but At The RIGHT PRICE Let's get a couple of good signings billy sharpe, becchio, a centre back and maybe Vicente someone who can add that final pass to finish games Then we're be back well and truly in the top six Just hope CMS IS BACK SOON UTA Tonyuk175
  • Score: 2

7:57am Mon 20 Jan 14

AlanDuffy says...

Brighton is a football club in transition - when you look at where we were four years ago and where we are now, how many people back then would have dared to hope that we would have made the play-offs last season and be in contention again this. But these changes do not come without a cost and I'm sure the management and staff at the club are doing their best to smooth that transition and are learning from their mistakes and, in the process, building a firm foundation for what will, in my view, eventually be a successful Premiership club. The infrastructure is in place - we have a magnificent stadium, will soon have enviable training and medical facilities, we have a chairman who loves the club and has sunk significant sums into the project - what we need now, more than anything, is patience. The Bridcutt situation will resolve itself, just as the affair with Gus did. Players move on - personally I was sad to lose Ashley and Adam, but the truth is neither would have cut it in the Premiership. Finding replacements who improve our squad is not easy and we need to be patient. This club will be an established Premiership club within five years - what we need now is for the supporters to do just that - support the club, the coach and players on the pitch, make a noise when things aren't going our way, get behind the team - combined with what the staff are doing behind the scenes we will achieve our goals.
Brighton is a football club in transition - when you look at where we were four years ago and where we are now, how many people back then would have dared to hope that we would have made the play-offs last season and be in contention again this. But these changes do not come without a cost and I'm sure the management and staff at the club are doing their best to smooth that transition and are learning from their mistakes and, in the process, building a firm foundation for what will, in my view, eventually be a successful Premiership club. The infrastructure is in place - we have a magnificent stadium, will soon have enviable training and medical facilities, we have a chairman who loves the club and has sunk significant sums into the project - what we need now, more than anything, is patience. The Bridcutt situation will resolve itself, just as the affair with Gus did. Players move on - personally I was sad to lose Ashley and Adam, but the truth is neither would have cut it in the Premiership. Finding replacements who improve our squad is not easy and we need to be patient. This club will be an established Premiership club within five years - what we need now is for the supporters to do just that - support the club, the coach and players on the pitch, make a noise when things aren't going our way, get behind the team - combined with what the staff are doing behind the scenes we will achieve our goals. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 50

8:14am Mon 20 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

saraman wrote:
Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this.

Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours.

Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week.
Firstly, this is nothing to do with GP exacting revenge! he's got too much on his plate up there for that and we're kidding ourselves if we think we're that significant to him anymore.
Secondly, if 'the club' is ultimately responsible for LB's state of mind and not OG, then they must show some b*ll*cks and tell Sunderland to put up or shut up and also tell LB they expect him to honour his contract in the meantime.
It's madness for 'the coach' (for that is all he is, apparently) to have to make weak excuses. There appears to be a disconnect between coaches and management in terms of the handling of this and LB is driving a coach and horses through the middle. He can tell ' the coach' it's not his fault and the coach tells the player he understands. He then says 'they' have to sort it out.
If there is a tier of people who have assumed specific responsibility to provide players for others to merely coach, they must also take responsibility for the poo end of the stick too.
Does he go or does he stay? Don't leave the coach making excuses and looking like an idiot.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this. Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours. Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week.[/p][/quote]Firstly, this is nothing to do with GP exacting revenge! he's got too much on his plate up there for that and we're kidding ourselves if we think we're that significant to him anymore. Secondly, if 'the club' is ultimately responsible for LB's state of mind and not OG, then they must show some b*ll*cks and tell Sunderland to put up or shut up and also tell LB they expect him to honour his contract in the meantime. It's madness for 'the coach' (for that is all he is, apparently) to have to make weak excuses. There appears to be a disconnect between coaches and management in terms of the handling of this and LB is driving a coach and horses through the middle. He can tell ' the coach' it's not his fault and the coach tells the player he understands. He then says 'they' have to sort it out. If there is a tier of people who have assumed specific responsibility to provide players for others to merely coach, they must also take responsibility for the poo end of the stick too. Does he go or does he stay? Don't leave the coach making excuses and looking like an idiot. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 8

8:19am Mon 20 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
Bridcutt is out of order here, and totally unprofessional. He is under contract with us, ie is in a mutually committed agreement with the club to play football. To pull out of a game because he can't stop thinking about going somewhere else is pathetic, actually.
He and GP are well suited prima donnas who put themselves first despite the commitment shown to them. Am right off LB now, the sooner he goes the better.
I agree - giving him his toys back and packing him off to Sunderland can be the only solution to this provided, of course, we trouser a sizable sum in the deal. Then we can focus on seriously strengthening our striker options with the cash.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: Bridcutt is out of order here, and totally unprofessional. He is under contract with us, ie is in a mutually committed agreement with the club to play football. To pull out of a game because he can't stop thinking about going somewhere else is pathetic, actually. He and GP are well suited prima donnas who put themselves first despite the commitment shown to them. Am right off LB now, the sooner he goes the better.[/p][/quote]I agree - giving him his toys back and packing him off to Sunderland can be the only solution to this provided, of course, we trouser a sizable sum in the deal. Then we can focus on seriously strengthening our striker options with the cash. Aye Aye
  • Score: 6

8:29am Mon 20 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

I understand the sentiments of some--saying it is Gus Revenge--but agree with other comments that Gus has more on his plate getting his team playing and out of trouble than spending time ´exacting revenge´--easy to say but it is true. Good at last Oscar has his say---pity now after his players have had their say publicly. Maybe they do, but the club needs to sit the players down and tell the their job is to play football not sit in front of journalists who, sometimes, are clever at getting info/opinions out of then which can be interpreted wrongly---football is what they are paid very well to do, it is their job--MR BRIDCUTT!!!
I understand the sentiments of some--saying it is Gus Revenge--but agree with other comments that Gus has more on his plate getting his team playing and out of trouble than spending time ´exacting revenge´--easy to say but it is true. Good at last Oscar has his say---pity now after his players have had their say publicly. Maybe they do, but the club needs to sit the players down and tell the their job is to play football not sit in front of journalists who, sometimes, are clever at getting info/opinions out of then which can be interpreted wrongly---football is what they are paid very well to do, it is their job--MR BRIDCUTT!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 4

8:40am Mon 20 Jan 14

Hugothepug says...

Make him play against Port Vale and thus cup tie him - get a little back on GP.

TB needs to get back involved and sort him right out!

I don't think everything it is as bad as everyone is making out but things are defiantly starting to slid a little. AB and AE going, striker refusing to sign, Ulloa not firing and looking unhappy and isolated, Conway disappeared, Mason not on horizon anymore. It could be that the board are losing the dressing room, not OG and NJ.

We have come this far now let's try and make the most of the rest of the transfer window and season! Please!
Make him play against Port Vale and thus cup tie him - get a little back on GP. TB needs to get back involved and sort him right out! I don't think everything it is as bad as everyone is making out but things are defiantly starting to slid a little. AB and AE going, striker refusing to sign, Ulloa not firing and looking unhappy and isolated, Conway disappeared, Mason not on horizon anymore. It could be that the board are losing the dressing room, not OG and NJ. We have come this far now let's try and make the most of the rest of the transfer window and season! Please! Hugothepug
  • Score: 11

9:11am Mon 20 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

bash a a briddyclott a um stik a hym bad E trasansfer a get munnys
bash a a briddyclott a um stik a hym bad E trasansfer a get munnys seegull fly in sky
  • Score: -5

9:12am Mon 20 Jan 14

Dingbat99 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
saraman wrote:
Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this.

Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours.

Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week.
Firstly, this is nothing to do with GP exacting revenge! he's got too much on his plate up there for that and we're kidding ourselves if we think we're that significant to him anymore.
Secondly, if 'the club' is ultimately responsible for LB's state of mind and not OG, then they must show some b*ll*cks and tell Sunderland to put up or shut up and also tell LB they expect him to honour his contract in the meantime.
It's madness for 'the coach' (for that is all he is, apparently) to have to make weak excuses. There appears to be a disconnect between coaches and management in terms of the handling of this and LB is driving a coach and horses through the middle. He can tell ' the coach' it's not his fault and the coach tells the player he understands. He then says 'they' have to sort it out.
If there is a tier of people who have assumed specific responsibility to provide players for others to merely coach, they must also take responsibility for the poo end of the stick too.
Does he go or does he stay? Don't leave the coach making excuses and looking like an idiot.
Good post and well thought out Albion in Staffs. I feel sorry for Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: Nice to hear that Oscar has found his voice. As I posted previously, along with others, this is Poyet exacting revenge from a distance.He messed us up at the back end of last season and now he's doing it this. Bridcutt should man up and withdraw his transfer request and give 100% to The Albion cause until he is sold for a realistic fee. It would after all be in his own interest as well as ours. Let's hope for some positive transfer news this week.[/p][/quote]Firstly, this is nothing to do with GP exacting revenge! he's got too much on his plate up there for that and we're kidding ourselves if we think we're that significant to him anymore. Secondly, if 'the club' is ultimately responsible for LB's state of mind and not OG, then they must show some b*ll*cks and tell Sunderland to put up or shut up and also tell LB they expect him to honour his contract in the meantime. It's madness for 'the coach' (for that is all he is, apparently) to have to make weak excuses. There appears to be a disconnect between coaches and management in terms of the handling of this and LB is driving a coach and horses through the middle. He can tell ' the coach' it's not his fault and the coach tells the player he understands. He then says 'they' have to sort it out. If there is a tier of people who have assumed specific responsibility to provide players for others to merely coach, they must also take responsibility for the poo end of the stick too. Does he go or does he stay? Don't leave the coach making excuses and looking like an idiot.[/p][/quote]Good post and well thought out Albion in Staffs. I feel sorry for Oscar. Dingbat99
  • Score: 4

9:16am Mon 20 Jan 14

graham w says...

Well said, Alan Duffy....Im afraid you do get some weird comments on here. And all this copying of peoples comments then adding one sentence, I just scroll thro all of those and never read them...UTA.........
Well said, Alan Duffy....Im afraid you do get some weird comments on here. And all this copying of peoples comments then adding one sentence, I just scroll thro all of those and never read them...UTA......... graham w
  • Score: 7

9:17am Mon 20 Jan 14

raymondo999 says...

All this talk about GP revenge is pathetic. GP knows how good LB is and wants to buy him. LB wants to play in the premiership and GP is offering him the chance. The club have said he can't go. Clearly this is a negotiating tactic to up the money. LB is unhappy about this, who wouldn't be. Now OG urges the club to resolve it via an argus interview, as if he's not a senior figure at the club. That is surprising.
All this talk about GP revenge is pathetic. GP knows how good LB is and wants to buy him. LB wants to play in the premiership and GP is offering him the chance. The club have said he can't go. Clearly this is a negotiating tactic to up the money. LB is unhappy about this, who wouldn't be. Now OG urges the club to resolve it via an argus interview, as if he's not a senior figure at the club. That is surprising. raymondo999
  • Score: 4

9:43am Mon 20 Jan 14

Cory and Trevor says...

SMF20 wrote:
I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes. The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish. OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve. All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so. OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table.
I don't like it either but it's the way it is. Journalists should stop asking OG questions about matters on which he has no influence. He is Head Coach and, as such, isn't involved in buying players or negotiating contracts.

When OG was appointed, i imagined we’d be tapping into his connections with top European clubs to take on their young players (even if only on loan). But it’s obvious that he has nothing to do with acquiring players, except telling Burke and Barber the type of player he’d like.

To my mind, it’s too rigid a set up and as such wastes the connections that OG has. What’s more annoying is that idiotic journalists with a pre-set agenda to find news where there isn't any, keep asking him questions that are obviously beyond his remit to answer (especially whassisface on seagullsworld).
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes. The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish. OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve. All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so. OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table.[/p][/quote]I don't like it either but it's the way it is. Journalists should stop asking OG questions about matters on which he has no influence. He is Head Coach and, as such, isn't involved in buying players or negotiating contracts. When OG was appointed, i imagined we’d be tapping into his connections with top European clubs to take on their young players (even if only on loan). But it’s obvious that he has nothing to do with acquiring players, except telling Burke and Barber the type of player he’d like. To my mind, it’s too rigid a set up and as such wastes the connections that OG has. What’s more annoying is that idiotic journalists with a pre-set agenda to find news where there isn't any, keep asking him questions that are obviously beyond his remit to answer (especially whassisface on seagullsworld). Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 7

11:34am Mon 20 Jan 14

Abgask says...

So there we have it Oscar is the coach and that's that...... So can the club tell us who manage's?? Bridcuttgate is a fiasco!!
So there we have it Oscar is the coach and that's that...... So can the club tell us who manage's?? Bridcuttgate is a fiasco!! Abgask
  • Score: 2

12:14pm Mon 20 Jan 14

tug509 says...

bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !. tug509
  • Score: 2

12:40pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

tug509 wrote:
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
Oh come on Tug. He is behaving the same way as a lot of other footballers. He sees the opportunity to play in the PL with much higher wages and who can blame him when it's such a short career. This is no different to the Rooney/Suarez situations which both resolved themselves with the players staying put. Bridders will understand that the club wants a decent feel for him, and if that doesn't materialise I am sure he will soon be focussed back on the Albion. I for one will welcome him back if that happens.

What we don't want is a last minute higher bid from Sunderland (which is maybe GPs tactic) leaving us little or no time to line up replacements. I am sure that is why the club want this sorted sooner rather than later.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.[/p][/quote]Oh come on Tug. He is behaving the same way as a lot of other footballers. He sees the opportunity to play in the PL with much higher wages and who can blame him when it's such a short career. This is no different to the Rooney/Suarez situations which both resolved themselves with the players staying put. Bridders will understand that the club wants a decent feel for him, and if that doesn't materialise I am sure he will soon be focussed back on the Albion. I for one will welcome him back if that happens. What we don't want is a last minute higher bid from Sunderland (which is maybe GPs tactic) leaving us little or no time to line up replacements. I am sure that is why the club want this sorted sooner rather than later. Chi Gull
  • Score: -3

1:07pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes. The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish. OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve. All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so. OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table.
I don't like it either but it's the way it is. Journalists should stop asking OG questions about matters on which he has no influence. He is Head Coach and, as such, isn't involved in buying players or negotiating contracts.

When OG was appointed, i imagined we’d be tapping into his connections with top European clubs to take on their young players (even if only on loan). But it’s obvious that he has nothing to do with acquiring players, except telling Burke and Barber the type of player he’d like.

To my mind, it’s too rigid a set up and as such wastes the connections that OG has. What’s more annoying is that idiotic journalists with a pre-set agenda to find news where there isn't any, keep asking him questions that are obviously beyond his remit to answer (especially whassisface on seagullsworld).
Journalists will never stop asking questions of those who can provide some sort of answer - and neither should they. Witness the comments from Orlandi and Ward too.
It's up to those who CAN answer with certainty to manage the situation and to that end, we wait with anticipation.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I really don't like this "I'm here to coach" and "it's a problem between him and the club" quotes. The set up just seems wrong.... You can argue that he is not the Manager but that's just rubbish. OG is tasked with coaching the players, deciding the formation and how to play, which players to start with and subsequently substitute and is of course the one that is held accountable for the results we achieve. All of this and yet he is still supposedly just a coach.... Don't think so. OG is the Manager but without teeth. I truly believe that we are not maximising what this guy is capable of bringing to the table.[/p][/quote]I don't like it either but it's the way it is. Journalists should stop asking OG questions about matters on which he has no influence. He is Head Coach and, as such, isn't involved in buying players or negotiating contracts. When OG was appointed, i imagined we’d be tapping into his connections with top European clubs to take on their young players (even if only on loan). But it’s obvious that he has nothing to do with acquiring players, except telling Burke and Barber the type of player he’d like. To my mind, it’s too rigid a set up and as such wastes the connections that OG has. What’s more annoying is that idiotic journalists with a pre-set agenda to find news where there isn't any, keep asking him questions that are obviously beyond his remit to answer (especially whassisface on seagullsworld).[/p][/quote]Journalists will never stop asking questions of those who can provide some sort of answer - and neither should they. Witness the comments from Orlandi and Ward too. It's up to those who CAN answer with certainty to manage the situation and to that end, we wait with anticipation. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

To add to my last comment, I think it's called ' filling the vacuum'. If no-one who knows directly what's going on doesn't speak, then people with notebooks to fill will go elsewhere - and that's how rumour and negativity starts....
To add to my last comment, I think it's called ' filling the vacuum'. If no-one who knows directly what's going on doesn't speak, then people with notebooks to fill will go elsewhere - and that's how rumour and negativity starts.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Mon 20 Jan 14

tug509 says...

Chi Gull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
Oh come on Tug. He is behaving the same way as a lot of other footballers. He sees the opportunity to play in the PL with much higher wages and who can blame him when it's such a short career. This is no different to the Rooney/Suarez situations which both resolved themselves with the players staying put. Bridders will understand that the club wants a decent feel for him, and if that doesn't materialise I am sure he will soon be focussed back on the Albion. I for one will welcome him back if that happens.

What we don't want is a last minute higher bid from Sunderland (which is maybe GPs tactic) leaving us little or no time to line up replacements. I am sure that is why the club want this sorted sooner rather than later.
Here is a man who already earns a fortune by comparrison to the vast ,if not all the supporters in the Amex from week to week ,he is held high on a pedestal as a role model . He excepts all the addoration ,all the autographs and all the compliments ,benefits and bonuses that go with the job .

He wants as you rightly say ,to play in the PL,ok fine ,but all decent players ,play their way to the PL ,not have an ex manager ,who shares the same agent ,telling him ,and please dont be naive to think this is not the case,tell them you are not in the right frame of mind to play. FFS this is a footballer we are talking about ,not a soldier on the front lines !.

If he stupidly thinks he will beat Mr Bloom into submission with this tactic ,he is mad . He would be better served playing for his team mates ,and keeping match fit ,then if poyet puts a sensible offer in ,leave the Albion with his head held high ,and the respect from the supporters intact .

What do you think his team mates think of him after Saturday ,we were "down to the bare bones" away at a very tough side ,while the true Pro`s were working their socks off ,he was reportedly seen at the bloody cinema in the marina ! he didn`t even have the decency to keep a low profile.

No ,we have played fair with bridcutt ,but he is taking the mickey ,and if he thinks other PL clubs will fail to notice his bad attitude and behaviour he is wrong again,in fact S,land may well be the only club that would have him now,if i were a manager ,i would avoid players ,who aren`t in the right frame of mind to play, like the plague !.

When all he had to do was help us ,to help him get there ,with us hopefully ,but he would have got there with clean hands !!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.[/p][/quote]Oh come on Tug. He is behaving the same way as a lot of other footballers. He sees the opportunity to play in the PL with much higher wages and who can blame him when it's such a short career. This is no different to the Rooney/Suarez situations which both resolved themselves with the players staying put. Bridders will understand that the club wants a decent feel for him, and if that doesn't materialise I am sure he will soon be focussed back on the Albion. I for one will welcome him back if that happens. What we don't want is a last minute higher bid from Sunderland (which is maybe GPs tactic) leaving us little or no time to line up replacements. I am sure that is why the club want this sorted sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]Here is a man who already earns a fortune by comparrison to the vast ,if not all the supporters in the Amex from week to week ,he is held high on a pedestal as a role model . He excepts all the addoration ,all the autographs and all the compliments ,benefits and bonuses that go with the job . He wants as you rightly say ,to play in the PL,ok fine ,but all decent players ,play their way to the PL ,not have an ex manager ,who shares the same agent ,telling him ,and please dont be naive to think this is not the case,tell them you are not in the right frame of mind to play. FFS this is a footballer we are talking about ,not a soldier on the front lines !. If he stupidly thinks he will beat Mr Bloom into submission with this tactic ,he is mad . He would be better served playing for his team mates ,and keeping match fit ,then if poyet puts a sensible offer in ,leave the Albion with his head held high ,and the respect from the supporters intact . What do you think his team mates think of him after Saturday ,we were "down to the bare bones" away at a very tough side ,while the true Pro`s were working their socks off ,he was reportedly seen at the bloody cinema in the marina ! he didn`t even have the decency to keep a low profile. No ,we have played fair with bridcutt ,but he is taking the mickey ,and if he thinks other PL clubs will fail to notice his bad attitude and behaviour he is wrong again,in fact S,land may well be the only club that would have him now,if i were a manager ,i would avoid players ,who aren`t in the right frame of mind to play, like the plague !. When all he had to do was help us ,to help him get there ,with us hopefully ,but he would have got there with clean hands !!. UTA tug509
  • Score: 5

1:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

WestStander17 says...

Why are we making Bridcutt's situation so complicated?

We tell Sunderland and Bridcutt himself the price we would accept. Bridcutt is a sensible lad, he will appreciate we need to get a good price for him. Until that price is offered he is contracted to us should play for us. I have very little doubt that Bridcutt would play his best for us. Once he got on that pitch his footballing instincts would kick in. No-one tries to play badly. Orlandi's comments yesterday suggested he'd been fine in training. I would suggest its his agent telling him not to play. Then if he goes, everyone is happy. If not, we have been fair to him, he has to wait a bit longer for the Prem and plays for us through to the summer. Simples!
Why are we making Bridcutt's situation so complicated? We tell Sunderland and Bridcutt himself the price we would accept. Bridcutt is a sensible lad, he will appreciate we need to get a good price for him. Until that price is offered he is contracted to us should play for us. I have very little doubt that Bridcutt would play his best for us. Once he got on that pitch his footballing instincts would kick in. No-one tries to play badly. Orlandi's comments yesterday suggested he'd been fine in training. I would suggest its his agent telling him not to play. Then if he goes, everyone is happy. If not, we have been fair to him, he has to wait a bit longer for the Prem and plays for us through to the summer. Simples! WestStander17
  • Score: 5

4:26pm Mon 20 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

'Must be settled quickly,' I would love to know how those that say this would actually go about it, even if it is Oscar saying the words.

We have a price, that rice is not being met, so are Oscar, and others, saying that we should sell him at any price, just to get the deal done and dusted?

If we want to force the hand of Poyet sit down with Bridders and his agent and tell them, and Poyet thru them, that the price is X and you have 72 hours to pay it and if you don't, that's it, any other later offers no matter how big, will be declined. The price set should be one that both Bridders and his agent both KNOW is reasonable, 3 million.
'Must be settled quickly,' I would love to know how those that say this would actually go about it, even if it is Oscar saying the words. We have a price, that rice is not being met, so are Oscar, and others, saying that we should sell him at any price, just to get the deal done and dusted? If we want to force the hand of Poyet sit down with Bridders and his agent and tell them, and Poyet thru them, that the price is X and you have 72 hours to pay it and if you don't, that's it, any other later offers no matter how big, will be declined. The price set should be one that both Bridders and his agent both KNOW is reasonable, 3 million. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

I'm a bit baffled by Oscars comments. How does he propose the club solve the Bridgate saga? Oscar is already on the record for supporting Bridcutt's decision to absent himself from the game. We cannot force Sunderland to bid again immediately. Is Oscar angling for a Sunderland player to facilitate a player exchange - say, Danny Graham or Connor Wickham? Has Oscar reflected on his 'support' for Bridcutt and now wants sanctions applied?
In the meantime, perhaps Bridcutt could look to committing himself to his contracted club for whatever time elapses before a premiership club pays a fair price for his services. As Ward has stated, we are down to bare bones now so it would be helpful to see Bridcutt consider resuming normal service.
I'm a bit baffled by Oscars comments. How does he propose the club solve the Bridgate saga? Oscar is already on the record for supporting Bridcutt's decision to absent himself from the game. We cannot force Sunderland to bid again immediately. Is Oscar angling for a Sunderland player to facilitate a player exchange - say, Danny Graham or Connor Wickham? Has Oscar reflected on his 'support' for Bridcutt and now wants sanctions applied? In the meantime, perhaps Bridcutt could look to committing himself to his contracted club for whatever time elapses before a premiership club pays a fair price for his services. As Ward has stated, we are down to bare bones now so it would be helpful to see Bridcutt consider resuming normal service. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Clean Sheet says...

Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?
Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders? Clean Sheet
  • Score: -1

6:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

wiseman of hove says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?
He is apparently a centre back so ostensibly room for bridcutt but each signing ticked off by our former manager, must make Bridcutt a bit anxious
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?[/p][/quote]He is apparently a centre back so ostensibly room for bridcutt but each signing ticked off by our former manager, must make Bridcutt a bit anxious wiseman of hove
  • Score: 0

6:10pm Mon 20 Jan 14

albion forever says...

oksouthstander wrote:
Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap.
Good idea but how about Connor Wickham instead of Danny Graham.
[quote][p][bold]oksouthstander[/bold] wrote: Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap.[/p][/quote]Good idea but how about Connor Wickham instead of Danny Graham. albion forever
  • Score: 3

6:12pm Mon 20 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?
That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't.
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?[/p][/quote]That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

6:17pm Mon 20 Jan 14

albion forever says...

oksouthstander wrote:
Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap.
Good idea but how about Connor Wickham instead of Danny Graham.
[quote][p][bold]oksouthstander[/bold] wrote: Ok let Bridcutt go and bring Danny Graham in exchange fair swap.[/p][/quote]Good idea but how about Connor Wickham instead of Danny Graham. albion forever
  • Score: 0

6:19pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pte says...

When a quiet man speaks out you know something is seriously wrong with the Albion set up.

For me it's simple, if the club dont want Bridcutt to go on the cheap then match Sunderland's wage offer but include a sell on clause of 4.5m so he can go for the right price in the summer. It's a calculated gamble. If he goes in the summer for 4.5m then the wages are covered, if not it comes out of any sale at a lower price.

Burke & Barber aren't the issue- they are only working to the budget figures set by Tony. If Tony raises the budget then Burk and Barber can be more flexible. Tony is only hiding behind B&B who are taking the flak for him
When a quiet man speaks out you know something is seriously wrong with the Albion set up. For me it's simple, if the club dont want Bridcutt to go on the cheap then match Sunderland's wage offer but include a sell on clause of 4.5m so he can go for the right price in the summer. It's a calculated gamble. If he goes in the summer for 4.5m then the wages are covered, if not it comes out of any sale at a lower price. Burke & Barber aren't the issue- they are only working to the budget figures set by Tony. If Tony raises the budget then Burk and Barber can be more flexible. Tony is only hiding behind B&B who are taking the flak for him pte
  • Score: -1

6:55pm Mon 20 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
When a quiet man speaks out you know something is seriously wrong with the Albion set up.

For me it's simple, if the club dont want Bridcutt to go on the cheap then match Sunderland's wage offer but include a sell on clause of 4.5m so he can go for the right price in the summer. It's a calculated gamble. If he goes in the summer for 4.5m then the wages are covered, if not it comes out of any sale at a lower price.

Burke & Barber aren't the issue- they are only working to the budget figures set by Tony. If Tony raises the budget then Burk and Barber can be more flexible. Tony is only hiding behind B&B who are taking the flak for him
Wow that's a bit tough isn't it Pte? A business plan was drawn up prior to the season kicking off, Burke and Barber have been working to that plan but they would have been involved in drawing up that plan.
Burke knew what he can spend, Barber knew what he had to save or bring in financially.
Raise he budget and increase the debt, that's the option if we don't sell players for fees that mean we can replace them at no, or little cost. You can't just throw the business plan out of the window mid season.
The only other option is that Tony digs into his pocket, again, and gives the club as much money that the FFP rules will allow to buy new players. Some might say that he has gone to his pocket enough, that the club needs to stand on it's own two feet.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: When a quiet man speaks out you know something is seriously wrong with the Albion set up. For me it's simple, if the club dont want Bridcutt to go on the cheap then match Sunderland's wage offer but include a sell on clause of 4.5m so he can go for the right price in the summer. It's a calculated gamble. If he goes in the summer for 4.5m then the wages are covered, if not it comes out of any sale at a lower price. Burke & Barber aren't the issue- they are only working to the budget figures set by Tony. If Tony raises the budget then Burk and Barber can be more flexible. Tony is only hiding behind B&B who are taking the flak for him[/p][/quote]Wow that's a bit tough isn't it Pte? A business plan was drawn up prior to the season kicking off, Burke and Barber have been working to that plan but they would have been involved in drawing up that plan. Burke knew what he can spend, Barber knew what he had to save or bring in financially. Raise he budget and increase the debt, that's the option if we don't sell players for fees that mean we can replace them at no, or little cost. You can't just throw the business plan out of the window mid season. The only other option is that Tony digs into his pocket, again, and gives the club as much money that the FFP rules will allow to buy new players. Some might say that he has gone to his pocket enough, that the club needs to stand on it's own two feet. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Mon 20 Jan 14

kjohnson says...

Sunderland have made two loan signings in the last few days so is Bridcut still on Poyet's list?

http://www.bbc.com/s
port/0/football/2581
7514
Sunderland have made two loan signings in the last few days so is Bridcut still on Poyet's list? http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/2581 7514 kjohnson
  • Score: 0

8:04pm Mon 20 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

kjohnson wrote:
Sunderland have made two loan signings in the last few days so is Bridcut still on Poyet's list?

http://www.bbc.com/s

port/0/football/2581

7514
I feel pretty certain that he is still on Poyet's list the thing is though, as players start to arrive at Sunderland will Bridcutt remain a priority signing, if no, then 2 million is the bid. If Poyet still views Bridcutt as a vital piece of his survival jigsaw, he will up the bid and if he doesn't, I reckon Bridcutt is going to feel very let down by Poyet. Bridcutt went out on a limb to try and force this sale thru, if Poyet walks away without making a further effort to sign him, that will be a huge smack in the face to Bridcutt.
[quote][p][bold]kjohnson[/bold] wrote: Sunderland have made two loan signings in the last few days so is Bridcut still on Poyet's list? http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/2581 7514[/p][/quote]I feel pretty certain that he is still on Poyet's list the thing is though, as players start to arrive at Sunderland will Bridcutt remain a priority signing, if no, then 2 million is the bid. If Poyet still views Bridcutt as a vital piece of his survival jigsaw, he will up the bid and if he doesn't, I reckon Bridcutt is going to feel very let down by Poyet. Bridcutt went out on a limb to try and force this sale thru, if Poyet walks away without making a further effort to sign him, that will be a huge smack in the face to Bridcutt. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

9:41pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pte says...

Cards are in our favour. If Sunderland don't cough up then once the window is shut then Bridcutt has no option but to knuckle down or he'll end up training with the DS.

Provided Sunderland have the money pretty sure they will up their bid before the window shuts. If they don't and the window shuts with Bridcutt still here then its business as usual
Cards are in our favour. If Sunderland don't cough up then once the window is shut then Bridcutt has no option but to knuckle down or he'll end up training with the DS. Provided Sunderland have the money pretty sure they will up their bid before the window shuts. If they don't and the window shuts with Bridcutt still here then its business as usual pte
  • Score: 1

9:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pte says...

By the way "The Plan" isn't the 10 Commandments and only fools stick doggedly to a plan that's been overtaken by events
By the way "The Plan" isn't the 10 Commandments and only fools stick doggedly to a plan that's been overtaken by events pte
  • Score: 1

9:47pm Mon 20 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

tug509 wrote:
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again.
Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.[/p][/quote]sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again. Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need. searich1983
  • Score: 0

10:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?
That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't.
how do you know VS that it hasn't been and offer of 3M or more? maybe we would lose a few millions, what do you prefer, 3M or Bridcutt? very easy to put the decision on the club but what would you do?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?[/p][/quote]That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't.[/p][/quote]how do you know VS that it hasn't been and offer of 3M or more? maybe we would lose a few millions, what do you prefer, 3M or Bridcutt? very easy to put the decision on the club but what would you do? searich1983
  • Score: -3

10:56pm Mon 20 Jan 14

tug509 says...

searich1983 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again.
Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need.
He hasn`t played in the PL ,so he hasn`t proved it !.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.[/p][/quote]sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again. Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need.[/p][/quote]He hasn`t played in the PL ,so he hasn`t proved it !. tug509
  • Score: 0

11:00pm Mon 20 Jan 14

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
searich1983 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.
sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again.
Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need.
He hasn`t played in the PL ,so he hasn`t proved it !.
He has proved he probably could be a decent PL player ,but he hasn`t yet ,and when he gets there ,with us or anywhere else ,he will have to prove it every week ,not just when it suits him . That is what makes a true pro !.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: bridcutt is behaving like a little school girl who wet her draws ,if he wants a move away fwom that nasty Bwighton ,then i suggest ,he grows a pair and proves to everyone he deserves it. As above ,if he doesn`t feel quite in the mood to play ,tuff ,then fine dear diddums a weeks wages ,next week if he does the same ,fine him another ,we should make it clear to the precious luv ,that he is supposed to be a grown man with obligations ,not pander to his demands and petulences ,what next get nursy to bottle feed him at half time !.[/p][/quote]sorry but Bridcutt proved it, he doesn't need to prove it again. Different matter is if we want him to stay at any cost or if we prefer to cash in and get the striker we need.[/p][/quote]He hasn`t played in the PL ,so he hasn`t proved it !.[/p][/quote]He has proved he probably could be a decent PL player ,but he hasn`t yet ,and when he gets there ,with us or anywhere else ,he will have to prove it every week ,not just when it suits him . That is what makes a true pro !. tug509
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Tue 21 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

searich1983 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?
That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't.
how do you know VS that it hasn't been and offer of 3M or more? maybe we would lose a few millions, what do you prefer, 3M or Bridcutt? very easy to put the decision on the club but what would you do?
I would sell Bridcutt and I have always said that IMHO, 4 million is the price, to get this deal done I guess I could live with an offer between 3 and 4 million.
My thinking when saying that a bid of 3 to 4 million has not been made is that if it had, I think the lad would be gone by now.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Sunderland have signed another defender, no room for Bridders?[/p][/quote]That would be the best outcome wouldn't it, Poyet fills all his needs and Bridcutt stays put. Ok we would lose out on a transfer fee but if at fee is only 2 million, well we can do without it, you have only lost a 3 or 4 million fee when it has been offered and right now it hasn't.[/p][/quote]how do you know VS that it hasn't been and offer of 3M or more? maybe we would lose a few millions, what do you prefer, 3M or Bridcutt? very easy to put the decision on the club but what would you do?[/p][/quote]I would sell Bridcutt and I have always said that IMHO, 4 million is the price, to get this deal done I guess I could live with an offer between 3 and 4 million. My thinking when saying that a bid of 3 to 4 million has not been made is that if it had, I think the lad would be gone by now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

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