Andrews issues 'help us' plea to Albion bosses

The Argus: Keith Andrews has made his point on the current strength of Albion's squad Keith Andrews has made his point on the current strength of Albion's squad

Albion midfielder Keith Andrews has issued a ‘help us’ plea to club bosses.

The January window slams shut at 11pm next Friday and the Seagulls have yet to sign replacements for Ashley Barnes, Adam El-Abd and Andrew Crofts.

Andrews told The Argus: “When you are travelling you spend a lot of time together, because it takes forever to get to any ground.

“They are three big, big characters we have lost from that dressing room and I don’t think people really appreciate the hole they have left.

“All of them have been here for a number of years and now the bus going up last week (to Derby) was a little bit quiet, because they are big characters.

 

“It’s vitally important that we try to replace that in some way. It doesn’t have to be like for like, because that would be very hard to achieve, but we certainly need to add some experience in there and some quality players, because the three of them are quality players.

“We’ve got a week and you would hope the club has got things in place. I know there was a player supposedly signing last weekend (Lewis Grabban) that didn’t pan out unfortunately for one reason or another but it’s vitally important.

“We’re finely poised, sitting seventh in the league, and it’s at this stage that you need that little impetus.

"You’ve seen it in previous years where a January signing has propelled teams on to automatic promotion or the play-offs. I would say that is the general consensus from the players - that we could do with a little bit of help."

Albion could be further hit in the final few days of trading, with unsettled midfielder Liam Bridcutt and winger Will Buckley both still being linked with moves to the Premier League.

Neither of them are likely to feature in today’s FA Cup fourth round tie at Port Vale.

Read Keith Andrews on his on-field 'baby-sitter' role - in The Argus today

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6:01am Sat 25 Jan 14

Yogi says...

Sorry, another non report! Keith, just concentrate on playing and winning!

Our fans go through every transfer window like this knowing it's difficult to get our main targets, mainly because of players wages demands. Whatever we think, the club will be doing their best to bring us some new blood asap.

Just get us in to the next round and3 pts on Tuesday.
Sorry, another non report! Keith, just concentrate on playing and winning! Our fans go through every transfer window like this knowing it's difficult to get our main targets, mainly because of players wages demands. Whatever we think, the club will be doing their best to bring us some new blood asap. Just get us in to the next round and3 pts on Tuesday. Yogi

6:33am Sat 25 Jan 14

JFC1 says...

Just focus on today Keith !
Just focus on today Keith ! JFC1

6:43am Sat 25 Jan 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that.
I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club?
Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.
Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that. I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club? Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football. B rian Tawses left foot

7:17am Sat 25 Jan 14

Far gull says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that.
I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club?
Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.
I do agree with this post pretty much and am surprised he has spoken out especially as a loanee. However it is no great surprise on the other hand following on from Bruno and Orlandi comments and I am sorry but the but there are fans out there a bit blinkered at present.
I mean by this ,Whilist not players in Adam and Ashley's case the most talented ,they gave everything on the pitch and would have in Adam's case definiately shed blood for the cause. Players you need in a team or squad . End of season leavers not mid. I have been upstairs not right ,even if Gus behaviour was not right either there are major issues .
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that. I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club? Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.[/p][/quote]I do agree with this post pretty much and am surprised he has spoken out especially as a loanee. However it is no great surprise on the other hand following on from Bruno and Orlandi comments and I am sorry but the but there are fans out there a bit blinkered at present. I mean by this ,Whilist not players in Adam and Ashley's case the most talented ,they gave everything on the pitch and would have in Adam's case definiately shed blood for the cause. Players you need in a team or squad . End of season leavers not mid. I have been upstairs not right ,even if Gus behaviour was not right either there are major issues . Far gull

7:40am Sat 25 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

I have to agree players speaking to the press in the last week or two with less than possitive comments is not good for fan or player moral , i for one am begining to feel there may be unrest in the sqaud
I have to agree players speaking to the press in the last week or two with less than possitive comments is not good for fan or player moral , i for one am begining to feel there may be unrest in the sqaud Rougvie Legend

7:49am Sat 25 Jan 14

Shaftesbury Seagull says...

Is the tail starting to wag the dog? Never a good sign.
Is the tail starting to wag the dog? Never a good sign. Shaftesbury Seagull

8:15am Sat 25 Jan 14

MHubbs says...

Well said Kieth. It's all one way traffic at the moment with our player of the year poised to go next.

Yes we may not like players commenting on things but he is spot on. We have lost three of our most committed players and still no sign of any genuine replacements.

If it is a sign of concern in the dressing room then that is worrying but not overly surprising. What Kieth says certainly embodies my concerns moving forward.
Well said Kieth. It's all one way traffic at the moment with our player of the year poised to go next. Yes we may not like players commenting on things but he is spot on. We have lost three of our most committed players and still no sign of any genuine replacements. If it is a sign of concern in the dressing room then that is worrying but not overly surprising. What Kieth says certainly embodies my concerns moving forward. MHubbs

8:16am Sat 25 Jan 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Why is everyone moaning he is only saying what we are!!! I as well hope we get a few signatures a good squad is a happy one on and off the pitch
Why is everyone moaning he is only saying what we are!!! I as well hope we get a few signatures a good squad is a happy one on and off the pitch Tonyuk175

8:19am Sat 25 Jan 14

Yorkieseagull says...

Far gull wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that.
I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club?
Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.
I do agree with this post pretty much and am surprised he has spoken out especially as a loanee. However it is no great surprise on the other hand following on from Bruno and Orlandi comments and I am sorry but the but there are fans out there a bit blinkered at present.
I mean by this ,Whilist not players in Adam and Ashley's case the most talented ,they gave everything on the pitch and would have in Adam's case definiately shed blood for the cause. Players you need in a team or squad . End of season leavers not mid. I have been upstairs not right ,even if Gus behaviour was not right either there are major issues .
I know it was early when you wrote this, Far Gull, but are you Yoda in disguise?

Agree with your and previous comment about footballers being paid to play and club managers being paid to provide and select the right team. The bus was quiet on the way to Derby? Is he the only player today who doesn't own a massive pair of headphones?
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that. I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club? Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.[/p][/quote]I do agree with this post pretty much and am surprised he has spoken out especially as a loanee. However it is no great surprise on the other hand following on from Bruno and Orlandi comments and I am sorry but the but there are fans out there a bit blinkered at present. I mean by this ,Whilist not players in Adam and Ashley's case the most talented ,they gave everything on the pitch and would have in Adam's case definiately shed blood for the cause. Players you need in a team or squad . End of season leavers not mid. I have been upstairs not right ,even if Gus behaviour was not right either there are major issues .[/p][/quote]I know it was early when you wrote this, Far Gull, but are you Yoda in disguise? Agree with your and previous comment about footballers being paid to play and club managers being paid to provide and select the right team. The bus was quiet on the way to Derby? Is he the only player today who doesn't own a massive pair of headphones? Yorkieseagull

8:30am Sat 25 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Agree with most of the above comments---something I commented on last week. -Tonyuk---Agree with your sentiments BUT it is NOT good when players add to the situation as it is interpreted sometimes that there IS a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We ALL need to be pulling in the same direction to get the Club through this difficult period. Players come and go and at the moment it seems to be only GO. I sincerely hope we do not get beaten by Millwall for the player we want. Where would you rather go with our magnificent stadium and soon to come Training ground??? But it is Port Vale today and I hope for a thumping win!!
Agree with most of the above comments---something I commented on last week. -Tonyuk---Agree with your sentiments BUT it is NOT good when players add to the situation as it is interpreted sometimes that there IS a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We ALL need to be pulling in the same direction to get the Club through this difficult period. Players come and go and at the moment it seems to be only GO. I sincerely hope we do not get beaten by Millwall for the player we want. Where would you rather go with our magnificent stadium and soon to come Training ground??? But it is Port Vale today and I hope for a thumping win!! mikeygit

8:38am Sat 25 Jan 14

ShorehamBeachcomber says...

After the last home game maybe he should spend more time on the training ground practising his appalling shooting rather than doing interviews
After the last home game maybe he should spend more time on the training ground practising his appalling shooting rather than doing interviews ShorehamBeachcomber

8:48am Sat 25 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.
Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west. dave from bexill

8:52am Sat 25 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Agree with majority of comments on here that it's not helpful for players to allow themselves to be dragged into a 'them and us' scenario by a media story.
Comments from the likes of Andrews, Orlandi and Ward make it look like there's a chasm between the training ground and the offices and even if it's true, it needs to be kept away from public gaze.
It means people like us start questioning morale.
Agree with majority of comments on here that it's not helpful for players to allow themselves to be dragged into a 'them and us' scenario by a media story. Comments from the likes of Andrews, Orlandi and Ward make it look like there's a chasm between the training ground and the offices and even if it's true, it needs to be kept away from public gaze. It means people like us start questioning morale. Albion In Staffs

8:52am Sat 25 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

Come on, Keith's comments are the true, now if no one from the club and fans want to accept it then we are all a bunch of Hypocrites, and you need some Bo...s to say it as well, so WELL SAID KEITH!!!
Now go on and win today.
Come on, Keith's comments are the true, now if no one from the club and fans want to accept it then we are all a bunch of Hypocrites, and you need some Bo...s to say it as well, so WELL SAID KEITH!!! Now go on and win today. searich1983

9:06am Sat 25 Jan 14

AlanDuffy says...

"We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet." Sky Sports

So if Liam goes, which seems inevitable, we are really going to be short. Personally, I don't think Keith Andrews has done much wrong, other than express an opinion, shared by many, that we need to replace players who have moved on....seems reasonable. If we don't, then I think it's fair to say the club has decided that we are not ready for the Premiership and will be happy to rebuild in the Summer, when hopefully Oscar will have learned more about what is needed and have a greater say in the players HE wants at the club. A war chest of £5-6m from the sale of Liam and Buckers would go a lot further in the Summer.
"We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet." Sky Sports So if Liam goes, which seems inevitable, we are really going to be short. Personally, I don't think Keith Andrews has done much wrong, other than express an opinion, shared by many, that we need to replace players who have moved on....seems reasonable. If we don't, then I think it's fair to say the club has decided that we are not ready for the Premiership and will be happy to rebuild in the Summer, when hopefully Oscar will have learned more about what is needed and have a greater say in the players HE wants at the club. A war chest of £5-6m from the sale of Liam and Buckers would go a lot further in the Summer. AlanDuffy

9:10am Sat 25 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

searich1983 wrote:
Come on, Keith's comments are the true, now if no one from the club and fans want to accept it then we are all a bunch of Hypocrites, and you need some Bo...s to say it as well, so WELL SAID KEITH!!!
Now go on and win today.
I completely agree with your point of view but my point below is that it's not a report of something he's said to the chairman or CEO, it's a media story which creates a virtual world that isn't helpful.
And I'm not blaming The Argus either which is merely doing its job.
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: Come on, Keith's comments are the true, now if no one from the club and fans want to accept it then we are all a bunch of Hypocrites, and you need some Bo...s to say it as well, so WELL SAID KEITH!!! Now go on and win today.[/p][/quote]I completely agree with your point of view but my point below is that it's not a report of something he's said to the chairman or CEO, it's a media story which creates a virtual world that isn't helpful. And I'm not blaming The Argus either which is merely doing its job. Albion In Staffs

9:17am Sat 25 Jan 14

The Phantom says...

Probably easier for a loan player to make such comments than one who is contracted to the club. Andrews has a bit of a track record of conversing openly with the media - as such I dont have a problem with what he is saying as it probably sums up what most of the fans are thinking. Certainly prefer this sort of player input than the usual monotone, say-nothing dross that normally comes out of player interviews - at least it shows Andrews gives a ****. The next seven days are vital for the club both in terms of this season and the medium term future - really need to show some statement of intent about what we are looking to achieve. Certainly doesn't bode well regarding today's cup tie - I think the phrase "playing Albion at a good time" comes to mind.
Probably easier for a loan player to make such comments than one who is contracted to the club. Andrews has a bit of a track record of conversing openly with the media - as such I dont have a problem with what he is saying as it probably sums up what most of the fans are thinking. Certainly prefer this sort of player input than the usual monotone, say-nothing dross that normally comes out of player interviews - at least it shows Andrews gives a ****. The next seven days are vital for the club both in terms of this season and the medium term future - really need to show some statement of intent about what we are looking to achieve. Certainly doesn't bode well regarding today's cup tie - I think the phrase "playing Albion at a good time" comes to mind. The Phantom

9:32am Sat 25 Jan 14

The Phantom says...

The Phantom wrote:
Probably easier for a loan player to make such comments than one who is contracted to the club. Andrews has a bit of a track record of conversing openly with the media - as such I dont have a problem with what he is saying as it probably sums up what most of the fans are thinking. Certainly prefer this sort of player input than the usual monotone, say-nothing dross that normally comes out of player interviews - at least it shows Andrews gives a ****. The next seven days are vital for the club both in terms of this season and the medium term future - really need to show some statement of intent about what we are looking to achieve. Certainly doesn't bode well regarding today's cup tie - I think the phrase "playing Albion at a good time" comes to mind.
How terrible! Makes it look like I used a really bad four letter word! Just for clarification, it began with a D and ended in an N - ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Probably easier for a loan player to make such comments than one who is contracted to the club. Andrews has a bit of a track record of conversing openly with the media - as such I dont have a problem with what he is saying as it probably sums up what most of the fans are thinking. Certainly prefer this sort of player input than the usual monotone, say-nothing dross that normally comes out of player interviews - at least it shows Andrews gives a ****. The next seven days are vital for the club both in terms of this season and the medium term future - really need to show some statement of intent about what we are looking to achieve. Certainly doesn't bode well regarding today's cup tie - I think the phrase "playing Albion at a good time" comes to mind.[/p][/quote]How terrible! Makes it look like I used a really bad four letter word! Just for clarification, it began with a D and ended in an N - ridiculous. The Phantom

9:32am Sat 25 Jan 14

Neville says...

Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club.
Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked.
Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately
CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much.
I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out.
Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.
Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club. Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked. Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much. I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out. Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up. Neville

9:43am Sat 25 Jan 14

Claude Back says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.
Nice try, Dave but I have a feeling your jest will be wasted on some. Still, keep it up. I like a bit of humour.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.[/p][/quote]Nice try, Dave but I have a feeling your jest will be wasted on some. Still, keep it up. I like a bit of humour. Claude Back

9:49am Sat 25 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

I'm not surprised at these comments. As a player it must be difficult when you're team is depleted and the cheeky chaps that help motivate are gone and nobody comes in to the squad even loan's can do a job.
We have still got a good squad with DS also coming through.
We managed to get where we are with a depleted squad so imo we still can .
Next round today please !!!
WE MARCH ON
UTA
I'm not surprised at these comments. As a player it must be difficult when you're team is depleted and the cheeky chaps that help motivate are gone and nobody comes in to the squad even loan's can do a job. We have still got a good squad with DS also coming through. We managed to get where we are with a depleted squad so imo we still can . Next round today please !!! WE MARCH ON UTA jockithenoo

9:59am Sat 25 Jan 14

Hampshire Gull says...

Neville wrote:
Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club.
Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked.
Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately
CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much.
I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out.
Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.
Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club. Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked. Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much. I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out. Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.[/p][/quote]Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud. Hampshire Gull

10:36am Sat 25 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Hampshire Gull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club.
Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked.
Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately
CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much.
I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out.
Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.
Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud.
Hmm that's 4-5 players who are concerned about players coming in, I suspect they only say a fraction of what they are thinking.. Not good for team morale,
For those that say we are well placed in 7th, our home performances have been awful and results pretty poor as well.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club. Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked. Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much. I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out. Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.[/p][/quote]Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud.[/p][/quote]Hmm that's 4-5 players who are concerned about players coming in, I suspect they only say a fraction of what they are thinking.. Not good for team morale, For those that say we are well placed in 7th, our home performances have been awful and results pretty poor as well. mark by the sea

10:37am Sat 25 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hampshire Gull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club.
Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked.
Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately
CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much.
I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out.
Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.
Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud.
Hmm that's 4-5 players who are concerned about players coming in, I suspect they only say a fraction of what they are thinking.. Not good for team morale,
For those that say we are well placed in 7th, our home performances have been awful and results pretty poor as well.
I forgot to say its our home performances that sell season tickets.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire Gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club. Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked. Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much. I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out. Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.[/p][/quote]Just because OG doesn't shout his mouth off all the time you can't assume he doesn't motivate the players. After all, we've done as well this season under much more difficult circumstances! I agree with the Phantom it shows that Andrews (even though he's a loanee) really cares about the club & getting into the playoffs, which I applaud.[/p][/quote]Hmm that's 4-5 players who are concerned about players coming in, I suspect they only say a fraction of what they are thinking.. Not good for team morale, For those that say we are well placed in 7th, our home performances have been awful and results pretty poor as well.[/p][/quote]I forgot to say its our home performances that sell season tickets. mark by the sea

11:04am Sat 25 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Shame when players can see the team getting weeker and ask for help from the bosses through the media,are they banned from voicing opinions direct. Watched the Brentford game last night and a player we should buy is Marcell Trotta,he is big strong scores goals and is only 20,he would go straight into our weakened team.
Shame when players can see the team getting weeker and ask for help from the bosses through the media,are they banned from voicing opinions direct. Watched the Brentford game last night and a player we should buy is Marcell Trotta,he is big strong scores goals and is only 20,he would go straight into our weakened team. pjwilk

11:52am Sat 25 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
I have to agree players speaking to the press in the last week or two with less than possitive comments is not good for fan or player moral , i for one am begining to feel there may be unrest in the sqaud
Despite the outgoing Adam El-Abd saying he has never experienced such a good atmosphere in the dressing room? Why are people so keen to seek unrest where there is none?

Players are talking to the press because the club have put them up for such duties, as they are bound to do. The players will know what they are and are not allowed to talk about, so none of this will have been 'unsanctioned'.
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: I have to agree players speaking to the press in the last week or two with less than possitive comments is not good for fan or player moral , i for one am begining to feel there may be unrest in the sqaud[/p][/quote]Despite the outgoing Adam El-Abd saying he has never experienced such a good atmosphere in the dressing room? Why are people so keen to seek unrest where there is none? Players are talking to the press because the club have put them up for such duties, as they are bound to do. The players will know what they are and are not allowed to talk about, so none of this will have been 'unsanctioned'. Ex-pat Arnie

12:00pm Sat 25 Jan 14

tug509 says...

mikeygit wrote:
Agree with most of the above comments---something I commented on last week. -Tonyuk---Agree with your sentiments BUT it is NOT good when players add to the situation as it is interpreted sometimes that there IS a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We ALL need to be pulling in the same direction to get the Club through this difficult period. Players come and go and at the moment it seems to be only GO. I sincerely hope we do not get beaten by Millwall for the player we want. Where would you rather go with our magnificent stadium and soon to come Training ground??? But it is Port Vale today and I hope for a thumping win!!
Good morning Mikey ..All .
Maybe a word in the dressing room ,would stop this negative way of thinking ,maybe Oscar could just assure the lads of incoming signings ,or at least the clubs intentions in that respect ,of course reminding them to keep it under their hat !. UTA

1-3
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Agree with most of the above comments---something I commented on last week. -Tonyuk---Agree with your sentiments BUT it is NOT good when players add to the situation as it is interpreted sometimes that there IS a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We ALL need to be pulling in the same direction to get the Club through this difficult period. Players come and go and at the moment it seems to be only GO. I sincerely hope we do not get beaten by Millwall for the player we want. Where would you rather go with our magnificent stadium and soon to come Training ground??? But it is Port Vale today and I hope for a thumping win!![/p][/quote]Good morning Mikey ..All . Maybe a word in the dressing room ,would stop this negative way of thinking ,maybe Oscar could just assure the lads of incoming signings ,or at least the clubs intentions in that respect ,of course reminding them to keep it under their hat !. UTA 1-3 tug509

12:01pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

Neville wrote:
Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club.
Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked.
Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately
CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much.
I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out.
Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.
Nev, we can't see what is really going on, too early to accuse the club of a lack of planning.
It seems highly likely that Bridcutt will be sold this window, but we may not look for a replacement for him, as we could cover him as we have done for most of the season. However, with cash from his sale, we would be looking at different players for other positions than we will be without it. I don't think we will make any significant signings until the Bridcutt deal is done, that might depend on Sunderland doing some other business. I reckon if we buy or borrow before Bridcutt is sold, it will be for dev players or back up, not players intended to strengthen the first team immediately.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Fair article and something most of us have not thought about. The dressing room probably feel that they are not being supported and that we have become a selling club. Love or loathe him GP did attract good players and his charisma and infectious style obviously worked. Unfortunately OG just does not have that sort of make up and if it is all being left to the likes of DB then no wonder we aren't signing anyone. Players want to be wanted by the manager/head coach and need to respect what that person has achieved in terms of football.In my opinion we don't seem to be in the ball game at the moment. Another week and if no quality signings we can kiss good bye to play offs unfortunately CM will be back but it will take him several weeks to get match fit and the gap may well be too much. I also don't understand why we have let Masimenko go to Kilmarnock,for heavens sake he is an International and can play defence or midfield and needs to be in our squad,seems we are farming everyone out. Not impressed by what is happening,no forward planning and again trying to play catch up.[/p][/quote]Nev, we can't see what is really going on, too early to accuse the club of a lack of planning. It seems highly likely that Bridcutt will be sold this window, but we may not look for a replacement for him, as we could cover him as we have done for most of the season. However, with cash from his sale, we would be looking at different players for other positions than we will be without it. I don't think we will make any significant signings until the Bridcutt deal is done, that might depend on Sunderland doing some other business. I reckon if we buy or borrow before Bridcutt is sold, it will be for dev players or back up, not players intended to strengthen the first team immediately. Baldseagull

12:09pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Chi Gull says...

I think if there was low morale in the squad we wouldn't be 7th in the table. We have probably over-achieved given the injuries and disruption so far this season.

However, none of that detracts from the need to bring good players in to replace those that we have lost or may be about to lose.
I think if there was low morale in the squad we wouldn't be 7th in the table. We have probably over-achieved given the injuries and disruption so far this season. However, none of that detracts from the need to bring good players in to replace those that we have lost or may be about to lose. Chi Gull

12:16pm Sat 25 Jan 14

albion64 says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.
I sit in the northwest and take exception to your comment. : )
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.[/p][/quote]I sit in the northwest and take exception to your comment. : ) albion64

12:38pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Andrews, just like us, has no idea what business is being done right now, he knows as much as we know, and that is, nothing. One thing he, and we, should know is that the club is trying to complete deals, anyone who thinks different is wrong. The Grabban deal didn't happen, but that deal was never really going to happen, we were used by the player as a tool to enhance his contract at Bournemouth. With CMA and Hoskins returning to training Ulloa and Obika both fit, missing out on Grabban wasn't a big loss.

Replacing Crofts is the number one priority in my book, our returning injured would seem to solve out needs up front. We should sign a replacement for El-Abd as cover, so in terms of replacements for those that have gone, we actually don't need very much and I think most on this forum agree that we won't need to replace Bridcutt when he goes.

To Andrews point about improving the squad to maintain a promotion push, yes, if the right players can be bough without the club being ripped off regarding prices, we should do it, if we can, but what positions is he talking about improving. Tomaz, Ward and Upson seem to be solid, so is he thinking about Greer or Bruno? What about his position on the park, is he up for a place on the bench, or perhaps he wants Ince taken out and someone with more experience brought in, that would go down well with the fans, or maybe Kazenga. If he is referring to David, then he might have a point, we could do with someone that is more consistent in their performances.
Player for player we actually do have a good squad, injuries have, and continue to be, our main problem, injuries and one player that blows too hot and cold. I would suggest that Andrews concentrates on what he has to do and leave the transfers and our needs to those charged with the task of doing our business. If he feels the need to talk, then let him talk the squad up as there is plenty of good stuff worthy of mention and if he can't see that, then maybe he just needs to be quiet. I note that there was nothing from him about CMS, Hoskins, Kazenga or Buckley or how well Ince is doing.
Andrews, just like us, has no idea what business is being done right now, he knows as much as we know, and that is, nothing. One thing he, and we, should know is that the club is trying to complete deals, anyone who thinks different is wrong. The Grabban deal didn't happen, but that deal was never really going to happen, we were used by the player as a tool to enhance his contract at Bournemouth. With CMA and Hoskins returning to training Ulloa and Obika both fit, missing out on Grabban wasn't a big loss. Replacing Crofts is the number one priority in my book, our returning injured would seem to solve out needs up front. We should sign a replacement for El-Abd as cover, so in terms of replacements for those that have gone, we actually don't need very much and I think most on this forum agree that we won't need to replace Bridcutt when he goes. To Andrews point about improving the squad to maintain a promotion push, yes, if the right players can be bough without the club being ripped off regarding prices, we should do it, if we can, but what positions is he talking about improving. Tomaz, Ward and Upson seem to be solid, so is he thinking about Greer or Bruno? What about his position on the park, is he up for a place on the bench, or perhaps he wants Ince taken out and someone with more experience brought in, that would go down well with the fans, or maybe Kazenga. If he is referring to David, then he might have a point, we could do with someone that is more consistent in their performances. Player for player we actually do have a good squad, injuries have, and continue to be, our main problem, injuries and one player that blows too hot and cold. I would suggest that Andrews concentrates on what he has to do and leave the transfers and our needs to those charged with the task of doing our business. If he feels the need to talk, then let him talk the squad up as there is plenty of good stuff worthy of mention and if he can't see that, then maybe he just needs to be quiet. I note that there was nothing from him about CMS, Hoskins, Kazenga or Buckley or how well Ince is doing. VegasSeagull

12:44pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here
Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here Rougvie Legend

12:49pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Keith is only stating the obvious and I am sure those charged with bringing in replacements don't need reminding what is required.
Let's just be patient and see what happens in the next few days.
I'm more concerned that we get past Port Vale at the first attempt. It's not going to be easy but if we do do we'll be 7th in the league and into the 5th round of the cup.
That's not bad after the problems we've had so far this season. UTA
Keith is only stating the obvious and I am sure those charged with bringing in replacements don't need reminding what is required. Let's just be patient and see what happens in the next few days. I'm more concerned that we get past Port Vale at the first attempt. It's not going to be easy but if we do do we'll be 7th in the league and into the 5th round of the cup. That's not bad after the problems we've had so far this season. UTA Joel'sGrandad

12:51pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here
Yeah, but unrest on this website isn't unrest within the squad so doesn't affect the team's performances and as such is irrelevant :-)
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here[/p][/quote]Yeah, but unrest on this website isn't unrest within the squad so doesn't affect the team's performances and as such is irrelevant :-) Ex-pat Arnie

1:19pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Rougvie Legend wrote:
Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here
Yeah, but unrest on this website isn't unrest within the squad so doesn't affect the team's performances and as such is irrelevant :-)
well for me actions will speak louder than words and by the end of next week and a couple of decent signings i may be eating humble pie great if that's the case , not sure why the club would put players forward to speak to the press and give them the freedom to voice their concerns about the club that does nothing for customer relations/confidence and every company i have worked have a policy around negative public statements as they are damaging to the companys image , i would not say unrest amongst the posters on here or fan base two of the same i assume is irrelevant as we you are the club future
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: Ex Pat clearly there is unrest even if only on here[/p][/quote]Yeah, but unrest on this website isn't unrest within the squad so doesn't affect the team's performances and as such is irrelevant :-)[/p][/quote]well for me actions will speak louder than words and by the end of next week and a couple of decent signings i may be eating humble pie great if that's the case , not sure why the club would put players forward to speak to the press and give them the freedom to voice their concerns about the club that does nothing for customer relations/confidence and every company i have worked have a policy around negative public statements as they are damaging to the companys image , i would not say unrest amongst the posters on here or fan base two of the same i assume is irrelevant as we you are the club future Rougvie Legend

1:41pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Far gull says...

Me included in this next statement, i believe we as fans have to now realise we are for now a club that is a selling club and the days of 'exotic" 'inspiriational" signings , as under Gus are over. I believe this is why ,and i include me and to some extent the players themselves are a bit low at present. Remember JFC saying last season how it was his dream to play along side players like Vicente. Sorry but looking at midfield now especially given injuries not quite the shame.
Guess we will just have to settle for less (or a miracle) for the next few years and hope we can at least maintain our championship status.
Disappointed i think is underlying feeling on 'negative 'posting and comments from players. I think anyone watching Leo and Buckley can see it in their recent performances and body language. Many results this year have flattered us except our game against Leicster.
Lets hope for a win today to boost us all.
Me included in this next statement, i believe we as fans have to now realise we are for now a club that is a selling club and the days of 'exotic" 'inspiriational" signings , as under Gus are over. I believe this is why ,and i include me and to some extent the players themselves are a bit low at present. Remember JFC saying last season how it was his dream to play along side players like Vicente. Sorry but looking at midfield now especially given injuries not quite the shame. Guess we will just have to settle for less (or a miracle) for the next few years and hope we can at least maintain our championship status. Disappointed i think is underlying feeling on 'negative 'posting and comments from players. I think anyone watching Leo and Buckley can see it in their recent performances and body language. Many results this year have flattered us except our game against Leicster. Lets hope for a win today to boost us all. Far gull

2:10pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
"We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet." Sky Sports

So if Liam goes, which seems inevitable, we are really going to be short. Personally, I don't think Keith Andrews has done much wrong, other than express an opinion, shared by many, that we need to replace players who have moved on....seems reasonable. If we don't, then I think it's fair to say the club has decided that we are not ready for the Premiership and will be happy to rebuild in the Summer, when hopefully Oscar will have learned more about what is needed and have a greater say in the players HE wants at the club. A war chest of £5-6m from the sale of Liam and Buckers would go a lot further in the Summer.
If that is the strategy (and you are only guessing), why bank the money now, leaving a threadbare squad for the final and key 4 months? Why not bank the money with early Summer sales, giving the full squad the best chance of a positive end to this season come what may - to give a feel good factor about the club to those potential players we track in the Summer window, rather than a feeling of stagnation on the playing side.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: "We understand Sunderland are edging closer to agreeing a deal to sign Brighton midfielder Liam Bridcutt. Talks are ongoing between both clubs with the player keen to make move to be reunited with Gus Poyet." Sky Sports So if Liam goes, which seems inevitable, we are really going to be short. Personally, I don't think Keith Andrews has done much wrong, other than express an opinion, shared by many, that we need to replace players who have moved on....seems reasonable. If we don't, then I think it's fair to say the club has decided that we are not ready for the Premiership and will be happy to rebuild in the Summer, when hopefully Oscar will have learned more about what is needed and have a greater say in the players HE wants at the club. A war chest of £5-6m from the sale of Liam and Buckers would go a lot further in the Summer.[/p][/quote]If that is the strategy (and you are only guessing), why bank the money now, leaving a threadbare squad for the final and key 4 months? Why not bank the money with early Summer sales, giving the full squad the best chance of a positive end to this season come what may - to give a feel good factor about the club to those potential players we track in the Summer window, rather than a feeling of stagnation on the playing side. Withdean-er

2:15pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

Quite right Keith, the next week will show (a) how much ambition the suits have and (b) how much influence OG has on signings. Please give us fans some hope of at least a play off place.
Quite right Keith, the next week will show (a) how much ambition the suits have and (b) how much influence OG has on signings. Please give us fans some hope of at least a play off place. Steveg1958

2:19pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Captain Haddock says...

Blimey! Warren Aspinall has just described Vale having had an "ale storm". Wish I'd travelled up now! ;0)
Blimey! Warren Aspinall has just described Vale having had an "ale storm". Wish I'd travelled up now! ;0) Captain Haddock

2:24pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

If you look only at our sales, we are down one striker and one cover defender. CMS and Hoskins are close to a return to action, we have Ulloa and Obika, so no panic there. I don't see any reason for despair that we are taking our time to replace a cover defender.
Our biggest loss in to injury, Crofts, replacing him right now is a must, and it should be a quality player that replaces him. I am not sure just exactly what Andrews is calling for when he says, 'help us.'
If you look only at our sales, we are down one striker and one cover defender. CMS and Hoskins are close to a return to action, we have Ulloa and Obika, so no panic there. I don't see any reason for despair that we are taking our time to replace a cover defender. Our biggest loss in to injury, Crofts, replacing him right now is a must, and it should be a quality player that replaces him. I am not sure just exactly what Andrews is calling for when he says, 'help us.' VegasSeagull

2:33pm Sat 25 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Blimey! Warren Aspinall has just described Vale having had an "ale storm". Wish I'd travelled up now! ;0)
like it :-))
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Blimey! Warren Aspinall has just described Vale having had an "ale storm". Wish I'd travelled up now! ;0)[/p][/quote]like it :-)) VegasSeagull

3:17pm Sat 25 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

albion64 wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.
I sit in the northwest and take exception to your comment. : )
Ha, ha, like it
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Yes Keith, you should know better than to have an opinion. After all your'e only a professional footballer at the club. Naughty boy, you should be sent straight back to the horrible north west.[/p][/quote]I sit in the northwest and take exception to your comment. : )[/p][/quote]Ha, ha, like it dave from bexill

2:39am Sun 26 Jan 14

kwaidam says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that.
I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club?
Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.
You're a Wally. He is right. End of.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Fairly outrageous comments from the player. Frankly I think I prefer the old days when players could be fined for speaking publicly about internal matters. You should never wash your dirty linen in public. Internal matters are just that. I liked Adam El-Abd but the fact that he has gone to a struggling first division club probably tells it all in terms of sheer ability. Barnes had a terrific work rate but the team didn't seem to miss him too much when he was suspended for ludicrously tripping a referee up. Why should they miss him now? Getting in a quality player to replace Crofts is rather unrealistic at such short notice. In Any case Augustein and JFC are both there to vie for his place, if they can't make their mark now why are they at the club? Andrews should stick to what he is paid to do - play football.[/p][/quote]You're a Wally. He is right. End of. kwaidam

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