Transfer window latest: Charlton chief casts doubt over Stephens deal for Albion

Dale Stephens. Albion want him to replace the injured Andrew Crofts

Dale Stephens. Albion want him to replace the injured Andrew Crofts

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Charlton manager Chris Powell says there is "nothing concrete" in Albion's interest in Dale Stephens.

But he admits his club are vulnerable to losing players like Stephens in the remaining days of the transfer window.

Albion have targeted Stephens as an energetic midfield replacement for the injured Andrew Crofts.

Powell said: "There's nothing concrete to reports of Dale Stephens leaving. There's always speculation over bids and this is an example of that.

"It's just how it always is. Until I am told differently, Dale remains here.

"Hopefully we can stave off bids like that if they come but I am a realist. Every player has his price but hopefully we can keep our better players here."

Stephens played for 78 minutes and picked up a booking in Charlton's 3-0 defeat at Doncaster last night.

Powell added: "These reports can also affect the players, because they read them and they speak to their advisors about them. We're vulnerable to exits in January, as other teams will try to boost their own squads and we could definitely be vulnerable to that.

"We have some good players here who have shown their quality, not just this season but last season and the year before that.

"People will always keep an eye on the players I have here and perhaps also on the things we are going through as a fallen club and see this as a good time to take advantage.There’s nothing I can do about that."

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8:30am Wed 29 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits.
Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits. Withdean-er
  • Score: 9

8:36am Wed 29 Jan 14

Aye Aye says...

..............which also suggests an acceptable deal has been concluded with Sunderland for Bridcutt (and Buckley?) I would prefer they keep a substantial proportion of this aside for the summer transfer window when more suitable players may become available. If this puts our chances of promotion through the playoffs at risk, so be it but wisdom and prudence in the transfer market is the order of the day.
..............which also suggests an acceptable deal has been concluded with Sunderland for Bridcutt (and Buckley?) I would prefer they keep a substantial proportion of this aside for the summer transfer window when more suitable players may become available. If this puts our chances of promotion through the playoffs at risk, so be it but wisdom and prudence in the transfer market is the order of the day. Aye Aye
  • Score: 9

8:59am Wed 29 Jan 14

searich1983 says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits.
Are we signing players for OG or all the ones that NJ likes? who is picking the players and the team?
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits.[/p][/quote]Are we signing players for OG or all the ones that NJ likes? who is picking the players and the team? searich1983
  • Score: 0

9:02am Wed 29 Jan 14

russellsnr2 says...

Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing
Please wait until it is a confirmed deal."
and today another maybe story!!!!!!
Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing Please wait until it is a confirmed deal." and today another maybe story!!!!!! russellsnr2
  • Score: -52

9:02am Wed 29 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may
be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton??
Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton?? mikeygit
  • Score: -37

9:10am Wed 29 Jan 14

DuncanThickett says...

Aye Aye wrote:
..............which also suggests an acceptable deal has been concluded with Sunderland for Bridcutt (and Buckley?) I would prefer they keep a substantial proportion of this aside for the summer transfer window when more suitable players may become available. If this puts our chances of promotion through the playoffs at risk, so be it but wisdom and prudence in the transfer market is the order of the day.
I agree re the Summer fund. Any deals done in this window may be panic buys at the last minute, but giving Oscar and the Albion a Summer of gradual structuring would be good. I think we can get top 6 even without new signings - and without Liam and Will, should the worst happen.
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: ..............which also suggests an acceptable deal has been concluded with Sunderland for Bridcutt (and Buckley?) I would prefer they keep a substantial proportion of this aside for the summer transfer window when more suitable players may become available. If this puts our chances of promotion through the playoffs at risk, so be it but wisdom and prudence in the transfer market is the order of the day.[/p][/quote]I agree re the Summer fund. Any deals done in this window may be panic buys at the last minute, but giving Oscar and the Albion a Summer of gradual structuring would be good. I think we can get top 6 even without new signings - and without Liam and Will, should the worst happen. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 10

9:42am Wed 29 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!! mikeygit
  • Score: -31

10:07am Wed 29 Jan 14

Steveg1958 says...

If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.
If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ. Steveg1958
  • Score: 4

10:11am Wed 29 Jan 14

russellsnr2 says...

mikeygit wrote:
Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys?
Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth.
Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!![/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down. russellsnr2
  • Score: -23

10:56am Wed 29 Jan 14

dave from bexill says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.
Whilst I can understand why you may think Nathan Jones has an input into selecting which players to chase, I can't see what the level of achievement he reached in his playing career has to do with it. Arsenal,Manchester Utd and Chelsea don't have manager's who exactly set the world on fire during their playing days.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.[/p][/quote]Whilst I can understand why you may think Nathan Jones has an input into selecting which players to chase, I can't see what the level of achievement he reached in his playing career has to do with it. Arsenal,Manchester Utd and Chelsea don't have manager's who exactly set the world on fire during their playing days. dave from bexill
  • Score: 9

10:59am Wed 29 Jan 14

albionfan33 says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.
ever heard they saying those that cant teach??
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.[/p][/quote]ever heard they saying those that cant teach?? albionfan33
  • Score: -3

11:02am Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Probably found out he would be taking a pay cut to come to Brighton,same as the others.
Probably found out he would be taking a pay cut to come to Brighton,same as the others. pjwilk
  • Score: 2

11:18am Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

This is nothing more than another manager defending his own position while the future of one of players is in the hands of others and I'm not even sure that what Powell actually says does 'cast doubt' on the deal.
Every manager plays his cards close to his chest, particularly in a week like this, so for some to suggest the Argus got it badly wrong yesterday is, in my opinion, unfair and inaccurate.
This is nothing more than another manager defending his own position while the future of one of players is in the hands of others and I'm not even sure that what Powell actually says does 'cast doubt' on the deal. Every manager plays his cards close to his chest, particularly in a week like this, so for some to suggest the Argus got it badly wrong yesterday is, in my opinion, unfair and inaccurate. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

11:27am Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

And another thing...
Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.
So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ?
My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction....
And another thing... Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask. So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ? My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -3

11:33am Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

You've more chance of signing Dale Winton at this rate. I've offered £4m for Will Buckley. That's £2m for each over-taut hamstring. Take Prince Charmings money whilst he's feeling generous and then leg it to the bank.- and mind you don't drop the cash from laughing too much.
You've more chance of signing Dale Winton at this rate. I've offered £4m for Will Buckley. That's £2m for each over-taut hamstring. Take Prince Charmings money whilst he's feeling generous and then leg it to the bank.- and mind you don't drop the cash from laughing too much. tonypulis
  • Score: 19

11:42am Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
And another thing...
Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.
So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ?
My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction....
Totally agree with Albion in Staffs.Has OG got any input into players coming and going or not.If not he will never build his own team,he will just be the fall guy for the Blues Bros,just as Gus was when he wanted to be a real manager.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: And another thing... Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask. So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ? My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction....[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Albion in Staffs.Has OG got any input into players coming and going or not.If not he will never build his own team,he will just be the fall guy for the Blues Bros,just as Gus was when he wanted to be a real manager. pjwilk
  • Score: -6

11:46am Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?
Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us? tonypulis
  • Score: 8

11:48am Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Another thing its 2 days and counting to saying goodbye to any hopes of promotion this season.Mid table Mediocrity seems to be more realistic for those who signs the cheques.
Another thing its 2 days and counting to saying goodbye to any hopes of promotion this season.Mid table Mediocrity seems to be more realistic for those who signs the cheques. pjwilk
  • Score: -3

11:49am Wed 29 Jan 14

Cory and Trevor says...

tonypulis wrote:
You've more chance of signing Dale Winton at this rate. I've offered £4m for Will Buckley. That's £2m for each over-taut hamstring. Take Prince Charmings money whilst he's feeling generous and then leg it to the bank.- and mind you don't drop the cash from laughing too much.
Dale Winton spotted in Brighton - last Saturday night in Kemp Town. Rumours bound to follow about his signing for us...

Seriously, does anyone on here suppose for one moment that Chris Powell has any say whatsoever about who Charlton decide to sell or not? Course he doesn't - no more than OG went to our Board and said he'd like to sell AB and AEA cos he'd like Connor Wickham and Dale Stephens. The fact that NJ worked at Charlton won't have any bearing on this link to our sniffing Stephens.

This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best.
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: You've more chance of signing Dale Winton at this rate. I've offered £4m for Will Buckley. That's £2m for each over-taut hamstring. Take Prince Charmings money whilst he's feeling generous and then leg it to the bank.- and mind you don't drop the cash from laughing too much.[/p][/quote]Dale Winton spotted in Brighton - last Saturday night in Kemp Town. Rumours bound to follow about his signing for us... Seriously, does anyone on here suppose for one moment that Chris Powell has any say whatsoever about who Charlton decide to sell or not? Course he doesn't - no more than OG went to our Board and said he'd like to sell AB and AEA cos he'd like Connor Wickham and Dale Stephens. The fact that NJ worked at Charlton won't have any bearing on this link to our sniffing Stephens. This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 16

11:54am Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pjwilk wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
And another thing...
Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.
So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ?
My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction....
Totally agree with Albion in Staffs.Has OG got any input into players coming and going or not.If not he will never build his own team,he will just be the fall guy for the Blues Bros,just as Gus was when he wanted to be a real manager.
I wasn't advocating one method or another. Merely asking for clarity.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: And another thing... Everyone on here is uptight about who's in charge of what part of the transfer process and I think it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask. So, why can't it be answered? To my knowledge, no-one at the club has ever confirmed what the internal process is? Does it include input from the coaching staff? Does it all have to be rubber-stamped by those on high or are they merely trying to carry out the wishes of OG and possibly NJ? My point is this. If it's a system they've implemented because they think it works, why not tell everyone what it is? Otherwise you're always left with the thought that the bearer of a secret is scared of the reaction....[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Albion in Staffs.Has OG got any input into players coming and going or not.If not he will never build his own team,he will just be the fall guy for the Blues Bros,just as Gus was when he wanted to be a real manager.[/p][/quote]I wasn't advocating one method or another. Merely asking for clarity. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

11:57am Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

tonypulis wrote:
Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?
Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing.
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?[/p][/quote]Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing. pjwilk
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

There is something odd about slapping a 4 million price tag on a guy that apparently not fully recovered from a hamstring injury. Even if either Sunderland or Palace agree to pay our price, how does he pass a medical, unless both clubs are prepared to over look his current injury.
A couple of matches ago we were told, by Jones, that both Kaz and Buckley were back training and that for one of them the game at that time was just a little too soon. Well Kaz is back so where is Buckley, is he now fit, I guess with a 4 million price tag on his shoulders he had better be.
If we hear that Buckers is having a medical with either club, then I guess we can ask why didn't he play in either of our last two matches. If you are fit enough to be sold, then you are fit enough to play, but Buckley didn't even make the bench. Something doesn't feel right about this particular situation.
There is something odd about slapping a 4 million price tag on a guy that apparently not fully recovered from a hamstring injury. Even if either Sunderland or Palace agree to pay our price, how does he pass a medical, unless both clubs are prepared to over look his current injury. A couple of matches ago we were told, by Jones, that both Kaz and Buckley were back training and that for one of them the game at that time was just a little too soon. Well Kaz is back so where is Buckley, is he now fit, I guess with a 4 million price tag on his shoulders he had better be. If we hear that Buckers is having a medical with either club, then I guess we can ask why didn't he play in either of our last two matches. If you are fit enough to be sold, then you are fit enough to play, but Buckley didn't even make the bench. Something doesn't feel right about this particular situation. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Cory and Trevor says...

pjwilk wrote:
tonypulis wrote: Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?
Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing.
If we want Marcelle Trotta, we'll have to do with his agent, Derek
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?[/p][/quote]Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing.[/p][/quote]If we want Marcelle Trotta, we'll have to do with his agent, Derek Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 7

12:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pjwilk says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
tonypulis wrote: Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?
Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing.
If we want Marcelle Trotta, we'll have to do with his agent, Derek
Get Derek Trotta on the dog and bone,he knows a bit about wheeling and dealing.We will be Premiership Millionares this time next year.
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: Trouble is pjwilk, Gus, like most of us, loves spending other peoples money. Do you really want Brighton to end up a basket case like us?[/p][/quote]Get your point but we wont get anywhere without spending and if they were financial wizards as they make out,there is wheeling and dealing but with a difference of making the team better and stronger.Look at lower leagues ,i will give you a typical player that would improve us,Marcelle Trotta from Brentford.Many more like that even in the conference.We dont have a scouting team that does anything.Its not about money only its about knowing what you are doing.[/p][/quote]If we want Marcelle Trotta, we'll have to do with his agent, Derek[/p][/quote]Get Derek Trotta on the dog and bone,he knows a bit about wheeling and dealing.We will be Premiership Millionares this time next year. pjwilk
  • Score: 6

12:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

searich1983 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits.
Are we signing players for OG or all the ones that NJ likes? who is picking the players and the team?
THOUGHT BURKE IS THE MAIN MAN REST ARE MOUTH IES
[quote][p][bold]searich1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Let's see. All late in the day, but with money in the bank I see Burke dusting off the club's cheque book and finally supporting OG with new recruits.[/p][/quote]Are we signing players for OG or all the ones that NJ likes? who is picking the players and the team?[/p][/quote]THOUGHT BURKE IS THE MAIN MAN REST ARE MOUTH IES tinker111
  • Score: -4

12:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tinker111 says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys?
Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth.
Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.
DONT See the need for this player we have plenty of cover in mid field just need a front man who knows where the net is OMG the misses last evening
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!![/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.[/p][/quote]DONT See the need for this player we have plenty of cover in mid field just need a front man who knows where the net is OMG the misses last evening tinker111
  • Score: 0

12:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant.

Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board.
Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant. Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board. Withdean-er
  • Score: 11

12:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Major Bloodboil says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys?
Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth.
Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.
Hey Russell don't get down hearted - the reason that you are getting a negative response to your posts is because you are complaining about getting thumbs' down. By doing so you are giving an open invitation for folks to give you more thumbs' down...just for the fun of it!

On a more serious note - how many of you are getting completely fed up with this January transfer window? I know I am and I have little doubt that it has affected the team's morale. I can't wait until it's over, but I am hoping against hope that we get at least one seriously good player, whoever chooses him, to make up for the ones we have lost.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!![/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.[/p][/quote]Hey Russell don't get down hearted - the reason that you are getting a negative response to your posts is because you are complaining about getting thumbs' down. By doing so you are giving an open invitation for folks to give you more thumbs' down...just for the fun of it! On a more serious note - how many of you are getting completely fed up with this January transfer window? I know I am and I have little doubt that it has affected the team's morale. I can't wait until it's over, but I am hoping against hope that we get at least one seriously good player, whoever chooses him, to make up for the ones we have lost. Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 5

12:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Simbosims says...

tinker111 wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
mikeygit wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.
DONT See the need for this player we have plenty of cover in mid field just need a front man who knows where the net is OMG the misses last evening
Maybe not relevent but I see QPR are prepare to let Bobby Z. go. (BBC).

Worth a look if now fit??
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!![/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.[/p][/quote]DONT See the need for this player we have plenty of cover in mid field just need a front man who knows where the net is OMG the misses last evening[/p][/quote]Maybe not relevent but I see QPR are prepare to let Bobby Z. go. (BBC). Worth a look if now fit?? Simbosims
  • Score: -2

12:48pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free" tonypulis
  • Score: 11

12:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

mikeygit says...

Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may

be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton??

Don't worry about 'thumbs down' Mikey - this isn't a popularity contest - it's about expressing your honestly held views. I think Stephen s wants to go back north. I think the other non-signers had issues with the length of contracts being offered. For what it's worth - nothing probably - I always enjoy your postings - even if I don't agree with them.
mikeygit says... Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton?? Don't worry about 'thumbs down' Mikey - this isn't a popularity contest - it's about expressing your honestly held views. I think Stephen s wants to go back north. I think the other non-signers had issues with the length of contracts being offered. For what it's worth - nothing probably - I always enjoy your postings - even if I don't agree with them. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: -1

12:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Major Bloodboil says...

Oh and another thing. I wish the Argus would change the video subject. The Manchester City chief has been on it for ages now - he is an all grey man, just like the weather at he moment.
Oh and another thing. I wish the Argus would change the video subject. The Manchester City chief has been on it for ages now - he is an all grey man, just like the weather at he moment. Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 4

12:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may

be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton??
Mikey, I think you got the thumbs down because those that voted don't want you to be right, they might agree with you but wish you were wrong.

I think Powell saying that nothing is concrete is a bit of a throw away line as nothing is ever concrete about a deal until the signature is on the contract. Powell doesn't say that we are not in for the lad, his words carry a tacit admission that a deal is being brokered, we just haven't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's. This guy is going to cost around 600k, maybe his club are holding out for an extra 50k or a sell on clause. I think this is a deal that will go thru.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Reports in the Argus, then, are not all they are cracked up to be???? Bit unprofessional---may be ANOTHER player who does not want to come to Brighton??[/p][/quote]Mikey, I think you got the thumbs down because those that voted don't want you to be right, they might agree with you but wish you were wrong. I think Powell saying that nothing is concrete is a bit of a throw away line as nothing is ever concrete about a deal until the signature is on the contract. Powell doesn't say that we are not in for the lad, his words carry a tacit admission that a deal is being brokered, we just haven't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's. This guy is going to cost around 600k, maybe his club are holding out for an extra 50k or a sell on clause. I think this is a deal that will go thru. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

1:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting.
We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in.
To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal.
I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.
I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting. We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in. To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal. I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

1:23pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jockithenoo says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing
Please wait until it is a confirmed deal."
and today another maybe story!!!!!!
Oh dear looks like you got 33 thumbs down now lol
Keep posting
UTA
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing Please wait until it is a confirmed deal." and today another maybe story!!!!!![/p][/quote]Oh dear looks like you got 33 thumbs down now lol Keep posting UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: -3

1:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant.

Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board.
At most other clubs, the assistant doesn't do all the talking...On that basis, it's natural.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant. Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board.[/p][/quote]At most other clubs, the assistant doesn't do all the talking...On that basis, it's natural. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Baldseagull says...

tonypulis wrote:
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though.
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: "This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"[/p][/quote]John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though. Baldseagull
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing
Please wait until it is a confirmed deal."
and today another maybe story!!!!!!
Blimey Russellsnr2 - even ringtone isn't that unpopular. -35 and counting!
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Amazing yesterday I get 4 thumbs down for "Sorry but 'closing in on' has been stated here before and nothing Please wait until it is a confirmed deal." and today another maybe story!!!!!![/p][/quote]Blimey Russellsnr2 - even ringtone isn't that unpopular. -35 and counting! tonypulis
  • Score: 4

1:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Baldseagull wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though.
:-))
episodes of, Are You Being Served, are shown over here every Sunday evening, they still give me a chuckle.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: "This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"[/p][/quote]John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though.[/p][/quote]:-)) episodes of, Are You Being Served, are shown over here every Sunday evening, they still give me a chuckle. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

Baldseagull wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though.
'Carry on Up the League' - we could be on to a winner. Might bring in some valuable transfer/wage funds for the men in suits. Filmed on location up the Amex.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: "This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"[/p][/quote]John Inman laid on a lot of balls too. Was good in the channel and was always ready to take one for the team, went down a bit easily though.[/p][/quote]'Carry on Up the League' - we could be on to a winner. Might bring in some valuable transfer/wage funds for the men in suits. Filmed on location up the Amex. tonypulis
  • Score: -2

1:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Peteinblack says...

Major Bloodboil wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
mikeygit wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!!
Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.
Hey Russell don't get down hearted - the reason that you are getting a negative response to your posts is because you are complaining about getting thumbs' down. By doing so you are giving an open invitation for folks to give you more thumbs' down...just for the fun of it! On a more serious note - how many of you are getting completely fed up with this January transfer window? I know I am and I have little doubt that it has affected the team's morale. I can't wait until it's over, but I am hoping against hope that we get at least one seriously good player, whoever chooses him, to make up for the ones we have lost.
Yes, definitely fed-up.
In fact, I reckon this has been the most disappointing and frustrtating January transfer window I can recall - and they're have been a few over the years. I'm starting to lose interest in this season; we're not good enough for promotion at present, and unless something dramatic happens in the next 22 hours, we're going to be punching above our wait until the end of the season, hovering around 8-10th in the table.

Can't help wondering if one of the problem we are experiencing in recruiting players is that, without Gus (although I think his position had become untenable last May), we are simply not quite as attractive to some players; certainly, OG doesn't exude enthusiasm or charisma.
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodboil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Why all the thumbs down guys---my comments are true. The first Argus report this morning says in clear words ÁLBION CLOSING IN ON STEPHENS´´ Cannot be any clearer and now they report that Charlton seem to think Albion not serious.--Games of bluff or what!![/p][/quote]Why all the thumbs down guys? Probably because there are some here who don't like fact and would rather deal in fiction. Same as my comment yesterday and above with the thumbs down and yet the comments are near to the truth. Even when I put the point last could be very important at the season end it got thumbs down.[/p][/quote]Hey Russell don't get down hearted - the reason that you are getting a negative response to your posts is because you are complaining about getting thumbs' down. By doing so you are giving an open invitation for folks to give you more thumbs' down...just for the fun of it! On a more serious note - how many of you are getting completely fed up with this January transfer window? I know I am and I have little doubt that it has affected the team's morale. I can't wait until it's over, but I am hoping against hope that we get at least one seriously good player, whoever chooses him, to make up for the ones we have lost.[/p][/quote]Yes, definitely fed-up. In fact, I reckon this has been the most disappointing and frustrtating January transfer window I can recall - and they're have been a few over the years. I'm starting to lose interest in this season; we're not good enough for promotion at present, and unless something dramatic happens in the next 22 hours, we're going to be punching above our wait until the end of the season, hovering around 8-10th in the table. Can't help wondering if one of the problem we are experiencing in recruiting players is that, without Gus (although I think his position had become untenable last May), we are simply not quite as attractive to some players; certainly, OG doesn't exude enthusiasm or charisma. Peteinblack
  • Score: 5

1:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Pete I think that this window is notorious for being hard to do business in, unless you are prepared to pay inflated prices. A wage structure lasts a whole season, we can't just change it because it's the winter window, same goes when buying, the right and fair price is the right and fair price, even if our competitors are happy to over pay for a player.
For me this window should be about having a chance to tweak you line up or replace a lost gem thru injury. If we were to sing three new lads now I would bet that we could have got the same three players in the summer window for less money.
I would be happy if we just replace Crofts and pick up a young CB as 4th choice cover. So far injuries have affected our season far more than any failed transfer acquisitions will, it's not that we have a weak squad the problem is, and has been all season, that we have a continuously weakened squad.
Pete I think that this window is notorious for being hard to do business in, unless you are prepared to pay inflated prices. A wage structure lasts a whole season, we can't just change it because it's the winter window, same goes when buying, the right and fair price is the right and fair price, even if our competitors are happy to over pay for a player. For me this window should be about having a chance to tweak you line up or replace a lost gem thru injury. If we were to sing three new lads now I would bet that we could have got the same three players in the summer window for less money. I would be happy if we just replace Crofts and pick up a young CB as 4th choice cover. So far injuries have affected our season far more than any failed transfer acquisitions will, it's not that we have a weak squad the problem is, and has been all season, that we have a continuously weakened squad. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mikeygit says...

Brian Tawes--thanks for your kind words!! No i am not offended or annoyed by ´thumbs down´ folk are entitled to their opinions, thank goodness most on here are now calmer about things and post sensibly without this horrible personal stuff we used to get---maybe Argus moderator is doing a job!!??
Brian Tawes--thanks for your kind words!! No i am not offended or annoyed by ´thumbs down´ folk are entitled to their opinions, thank goodness most on here are now calmer about things and post sensibly without this horrible personal stuff we used to get---maybe Argus moderator is doing a job!!?? mikeygit
  • Score: -8

2:42pm Wed 29 Jan 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Dave strevenens a oo a noa a goed plyer a e noa best a plyer um woldr. Getum grobbins isted sine e lot ov munnys. Mulliooin a ponounds a oo
Dave strevenens a oo a noa a goed plyer a e noa best a plyer um woldr. Getum grobbins isted sine e lot ov munnys. Mulliooin a ponounds a oo seegull fly in sky
  • Score: 1

2:50pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting.
We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in.
To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal.
I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.
We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger.

Its going to be an interesting few days

Uta
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting. We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in. To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal. I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.[/p][/quote]We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger. Its going to be an interesting few days Uta SMF20
  • Score: 7

2:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Hovite says...

mikeygit wrote:
Brian Tawes--thanks for your kind words!! No i am not offended or annoyed by ´thumbs down´ folk are entitled to their opinions, thank goodness most on here are now calmer about things and post sensibly without this horrible personal stuff we used to get---maybe Argus moderator is doing a job!!??
You can say that but your comment was far from calm.

Heavy use of question marks????
And use of CAPITAL letters doesn’t support CALMNESS??????
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Brian Tawes--thanks for your kind words!! No i am not offended or annoyed by ´thumbs down´ folk are entitled to their opinions, thank goodness most on here are now calmer about things and post sensibly without this horrible personal stuff we used to get---maybe Argus moderator is doing a job!!??[/p][/quote]You can say that but your comment was far from calm. Heavy use of question marks???? And use of CAPITAL letters doesn’t support CALMNESS?????? Hovite
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

Trust in Tony (Bloom). He is an astute business man and luckily for you a passionate Albion fan. He clearly has the long term future of your club at heart. Many of you are far too impatient and looking for a quick fix. Look at us. Proof that he quick fix doesn't work. I only wish we had a similar stable set up at Selhurst. I'm definitely off in the summer.
Trust in Tony (Bloom). He is an astute business man and luckily for you a passionate Albion fan. He clearly has the long term future of your club at heart. Many of you are far too impatient and looking for a quick fix. Look at us. Proof that he quick fix doesn't work. I only wish we had a similar stable set up at Selhurst. I'm definitely off in the summer. tonypulis
  • Score: 5

3:01pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Neville says...

Vegas
Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better.
As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc.
Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity.
Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity.
I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need.
Vegas Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better. As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc. Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity. Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity. I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need. Neville
  • Score: -5

3:26pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting.
We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in.
To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal.
I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.
We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger.

Its going to be an interesting few days

Uta
SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales.

A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them.

What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market.
It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending.

Your thoughts?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting. We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in. To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal. I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.[/p][/quote]We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger. Its going to be an interesting few days Uta[/p][/quote]SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales. A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them. What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market. It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending. Your thoughts? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

3:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

andydownsouth says...

albionfan33 wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.
ever heard they saying those that cant teach??
Well Arsene Wenger isn't bad for someone who can't!!!!!!!! Why don't people just let nathan and Oscar work together the way that suits them and not in a way to pander to the fans perceived wants?
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.[/p][/quote]ever heard they saying those that cant teach??[/p][/quote]Well Arsene Wenger isn't bad for someone who can't!!!!!!!! Why don't people just let nathan and Oscar work together the way that suits them and not in a way to pander to the fans perceived wants? andydownsouth
  • Score: 6

3:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Hovite says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better.
As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc.
Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity.
Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity.
I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need.
David Burke signed up Ince, March, Chickson, Ward, Monakana and Obika under his tenure and I wouldn't change a thing. Agustien and Andrews are also useful signings so Poyet can keep his charisma.

Never again should get ourselves in a position of a manager raiding us for players he has signed. The players we sign are our players not the managers and I am pretty sure Oscar prefers to not form personal attachments. That said if he does target specific players in the summer he would not have the cheek like Poyet to come back for them mid season if at all, when he moves on in the future. He is building and coaching the team for us not himself whilst helping us set up the teaching method in our Academy

Zamora hasn't even played 90 mins over all of his appearances this season, or even scored in that time. He might be a free transfer until the end of the season, but he would not be worth paying anymore than £3k a week due to his injuries.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better. As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc. Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity. Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity. I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need.[/p][/quote]David Burke signed up Ince, March, Chickson, Ward, Monakana and Obika under his tenure and I wouldn't change a thing. Agustien and Andrews are also useful signings so Poyet can keep his charisma. Never again should get ourselves in a position of a manager raiding us for players he has signed. The players we sign are our players not the managers and I am pretty sure Oscar prefers to not form personal attachments. That said if he does target specific players in the summer he would not have the cheek like Poyet to come back for them mid season if at all, when he moves on in the future. He is building and coaching the team for us not himself whilst helping us set up the teaching method in our Academy Zamora hasn't even played 90 mins over all of his appearances this season, or even scored in that time. He might be a free transfer until the end of the season, but he would not be worth paying anymore than £3k a week due to his injuries. Hovite
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Hovite says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting.
We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in.
To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal.
I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.
We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger.

Its going to be an interesting few days

Uta
SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales.

A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them.

What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market.
It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending.

Your thoughts?
Exactly, what we don't spend now we can add to next years budget and go for an automatic place whilst other clubs get fines and player embargos.

Even with what we have it is quite possible that we could get to the playoffs and we still have the loan market to consider.

Who knows what the plan is but next year may be a better calculated time to gamble on flouting FFP whilst other clubs are being punished.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting. We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in. To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal. I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.[/p][/quote]We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger. Its going to be an interesting few days Uta[/p][/quote]SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales. A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them. What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market. It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending. Your thoughts?[/p][/quote]Exactly, what we don't spend now we can add to next years budget and go for an automatic place whilst other clubs get fines and player embargos. Even with what we have it is quite possible that we could get to the playoffs and we still have the loan market to consider. Who knows what the plan is but next year may be a better calculated time to gamble on flouting FFP whilst other clubs are being punished. Hovite
  • Score: 6

4:13pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mark by the sea says...

Hovite wrote:
Neville wrote:
Vegas
Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better.
As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc.
Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity.
Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity.
I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need.
David Burke signed up Ince, March, Chickson, Ward, Monakana and Obika under his tenure and I wouldn't change a thing. Agustien and Andrews are also useful signings so Poyet can keep his charisma.

Never again should get ourselves in a position of a manager raiding us for players he has signed. The players we sign are our players not the managers and I am pretty sure Oscar prefers to not form personal attachments. That said if he does target specific players in the summer he would not have the cheek like Poyet to come back for them mid season if at all, when he moves on in the future. He is building and coaching the team for us not himself whilst helping us set up the teaching method in our Academy

Zamora hasn't even played 90 mins over all of his appearances this season, or even scored in that time. He might be a free transfer until the end of the season, but he would not be worth paying anymore than £3k a week due to his injuries.
All great sentiment, but Burke will be judged at the end of this season if we drop out of a play off chance.
Things will have to change ... With exception of ince two of players are on loan, and march came from lewes, based on that list we won't sell season tickets, people like Burke treat this as a business.... Which is great, but is i Sit next to two families who won't sign up in march for another 12 payments...for season tickets.. It's a tricky act for club getting savings / rather than a loss because of trying to save! Waffling on a bit ! Drunk 5 pints of chang ! Enjoying chiang mai at moment! 11 30 pm here!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas Also bear in mind we haven't matched the budget of last year which TB advised was the same if not slightly better. As have said many times FFP is dominating the boards thinking,despite virtually every other team in the Championship strengthening and seemingly having a disregard for future penalties,fines etc etc. Nearly all teams in the Championship are showing heavy losses but that does not seem to curtail transfer activity. Part of the reason we obtained good players ( with the odd exception) was due to GP and his enthusiasm,I fear DB doesnt have the same charisma and respect when dealing with potential players,hence the lack of activity. I see Zamora is available,could do worse than have him on loan would certainly ignite the fans interest and may be the catalyst we need.[/p][/quote]David Burke signed up Ince, March, Chickson, Ward, Monakana and Obika under his tenure and I wouldn't change a thing. Agustien and Andrews are also useful signings so Poyet can keep his charisma. Never again should get ourselves in a position of a manager raiding us for players he has signed. The players we sign are our players not the managers and I am pretty sure Oscar prefers to not form personal attachments. That said if he does target specific players in the summer he would not have the cheek like Poyet to come back for them mid season if at all, when he moves on in the future. He is building and coaching the team for us not himself whilst helping us set up the teaching method in our Academy Zamora hasn't even played 90 mins over all of his appearances this season, or even scored in that time. He might be a free transfer until the end of the season, but he would not be worth paying anymore than £3k a week due to his injuries.[/p][/quote]All great sentiment, but Burke will be judged at the end of this season if we drop out of a play off chance. Things will have to change ... With exception of ince two of players are on loan, and march came from lewes, based on that list we won't sell season tickets, people like Burke treat this as a business.... Which is great, but is i Sit next to two families who won't sign up in march for another 12 payments...for season tickets.. It's a tricky act for club getting savings / rather than a loss because of trying to save! Waffling on a bit ! Drunk 5 pints of chang ! Enjoying chiang mai at moment! 11 30 pm here! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting.
We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in.
To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal.
I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.
We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger.

Its going to be an interesting few days

Uta
SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales.

A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them.

What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market.
It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending.

Your thoughts?
That is an awful lot of ifs and buts my friend.

As you say... TB did suggest in an interview preseason that he expected at LEAST a play off berth and that this seasons budget was comparable with lasts.
This was on the back of a torrid summer for our club and for me personally, was exactly what I wanted to hear.
Should TB just have been paying us lip service then he runs the risk of losing a bit of credibility and more importantly, a shed load of season ticket holders for next season/ (I wont be one of them)
Tb also said in another interview how the club were finding it hard to juggle off field expenditure with that to keep things ticking over on field and so on that basis, I believe we are still learning to manage things.

I really do hope that it is not about next year already if I'm honest.. we have some terrific players out of contract in the summer and the chance of them remaining if we don't show a bit of ambition now has got to be slim.
Its no coincidence to me that we have seen a few senior players in the paper recently asking for a little help from upstairs.
Don't get me wrong... If the club said we are building for next year and having a real push and on top of this secured the likes of Upson and Kuz for another 12 months, id accept it.... I'm just not sure the fans who have joined us recently would.

Its a really tough juggling act in summary which is mae all the more difficult when other teams around us and even far lower than us are continuing to strengthen... add to this that we have the top attendances in the division with the most expensive tickets and you can understand why questions are being asked.

Re OG... Im not sure much will change close season with how things are run now.
OG would appear to be a good coach and likeable guy but it would seem from an outsiders point of view that is he happy with others getting people in and just coaching them and selecting the team/formation.
It gives him less to think about but equally imho we are not fully utilising him, his abilities or his contacts.

Lots to think about but nothing we can do about it either way.

Over to the bosses
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I find the numbers behind all the transfer speculation connected to Brighton somewhat interesting. We have completed deals that have brought in about one million. We possibly have a further eight million coming in from the sale of Bridcutt and Buckley, nine million potentially coming in. To date we have bid just over a million for a striker, Grabban, 250K for the lad that opted for Milwall and now maybe between 500k and 700k for Stephens, a bit of a financial mismatch don't you think, especially as so far we haven't completed a single deal. I am not complaining, money in the bank for next year suits me just fine, if we can replace Crofts.[/p][/quote]We have also sold Barker and loaned out another DS lad my friends. Add on top of this 4 lots of wages saved with 2 of those being senior players and Barnes new contract money back in the pot and the mismatch gets even bigger. Its going to be an interesting few days Uta[/p][/quote]SMF, is there a chance that this year, is all about next year, and maybe always has been. I heard/read, what Mr. Bloom said prior to our season getting underway, about our goals and the transfer budget, but surely Tony didn't appoint Oscar expecting him to guide us to the top this year, but his words probably did support season ticket sales. A new manager/ head coach, that really does not have a good grasp on the British market, is always going to be operating under the restraining hands of the suits, and in this case that is how it should be. Bringing in Jones was a move to help Oscar, very few managers have their assistant chosen for them. What appears to be a chance of bringing in some serious money this season, but as yet, no serious sign that we are prepared to spend big, might suggest that we are gearing up for next season, a time when many contracts will come up for renewal, and a time when Oscar will have increased his knowledge of the British market. It's true that many of our competitors are spending big, and they might end up in FFP trouble, but we won't. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that come next summer, we could spend 8 to 12 million on new talent and still be within our own, and FFP guidelines on spending. Your thoughts?[/p][/quote]That is an awful lot of ifs and buts my friend. As you say... TB did suggest in an interview preseason that he expected at LEAST a play off berth and that this seasons budget was comparable with lasts. This was on the back of a torrid summer for our club and for me personally, was exactly what I wanted to hear. Should TB just have been paying us lip service then he runs the risk of losing a bit of credibility and more importantly, a shed load of season ticket holders for next season/ (I wont be one of them) Tb also said in another interview how the club were finding it hard to juggle off field expenditure with that to keep things ticking over on field and so on that basis, I believe we are still learning to manage things. I really do hope that it is not about next year already if I'm honest.. we have some terrific players out of contract in the summer and the chance of them remaining if we don't show a bit of ambition now has got to be slim. Its no coincidence to me that we have seen a few senior players in the paper recently asking for a little help from upstairs. Don't get me wrong... If the club said we are building for next year and having a real push and on top of this secured the likes of Upson and Kuz for another 12 months, id accept it.... I'm just not sure the fans who have joined us recently would. Its a really tough juggling act in summary which is mae all the more difficult when other teams around us and even far lower than us are continuing to strengthen... add to this that we have the top attendances in the division with the most expensive tickets and you can understand why questions are being asked. Re OG... Im not sure much will change close season with how things are run now. OG would appear to be a good coach and likeable guy but it would seem from an outsiders point of view that is he happy with others getting people in and just coaching them and selecting the team/formation. It gives him less to think about but equally imho we are not fully utilising him, his abilities or his contacts. Lots to think about but nothing we can do about it either way. Over to the bosses SMF20
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Next year's season ticket sales could very well be influenced by the summer signings. Top six this year, maybe not, top ten nailed on.
Oscar coming more to the fore with regards to new players next year could well be on the cards.
If there is to be a rebuild for a top two spot in the summer we would soon know it by the players we buy or sign on a season long loan deal, a few of the right type would very quickly get the season ticket sales going.
I think the ambition for promotion was there at the start of this season but who knew what would happen re injuries.
Next year's season ticket sales could very well be influenced by the summer signings. Top six this year, maybe not, top ten nailed on. Oscar coming more to the fore with regards to new players next year could well be on the cards. If there is to be a rebuild for a top two spot in the summer we would soon know it by the players we buy or sign on a season long loan deal, a few of the right type would very quickly get the season ticket sales going. I think the ambition for promotion was there at the start of this season but who knew what would happen re injuries. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

5:04pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Pete I think that this window is notorious for being hard to do business in, unless you are prepared to pay inflated prices. A wage structure lasts a whole season, we can't just change it because it's the winter window, same goes when buying, the right and fair price is the right and fair price, even if our competitors are happy to over pay for a player.
For me this window should be about having a chance to tweak you line up or replace a lost gem thru injury. If we were to sing three new lads now I would bet that we could have got the same three players in the summer window for less money.
I would be happy if we just replace Crofts and pick up a young CB as 4th choice cover. So far injuries have affected our season far more than any failed transfer acquisitions will, it's not that we have a weak squad the problem is, and has been all season, that we have a continuously weakened squad.
Spot on. I think there's a degree of culling going on to create a war chest when the summer transfer market opens. I see anyone coming in during January primarily as a means to plug the gaps and get us promoted.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Pete I think that this window is notorious for being hard to do business in, unless you are prepared to pay inflated prices. A wage structure lasts a whole season, we can't just change it because it's the winter window, same goes when buying, the right and fair price is the right and fair price, even if our competitors are happy to over pay for a player. For me this window should be about having a chance to tweak you line up or replace a lost gem thru injury. If we were to sing three new lads now I would bet that we could have got the same three players in the summer window for less money. I would be happy if we just replace Crofts and pick up a young CB as 4th choice cover. So far injuries have affected our season far more than any failed transfer acquisitions will, it's not that we have a weak squad the problem is, and has been all season, that we have a continuously weakened squad.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I think there's a degree of culling going on to create a war chest when the summer transfer market opens. I see anyone coming in during January primarily as a means to plug the gaps and get us promoted. Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
  • Score: 3

5:27pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

Our offer for Huddersfield's Clayton has been rejected.
Our offer for Huddersfield's Clayton has been rejected. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

5:30pm Wed 29 Jan 14

daughter-of-manag says...

From Sky: Huddersfield Town have rejected a bid from Brighton for midfielder Adam Clayton. Whoops - it seems that we are bidding for a number of players - all of whom don't want to come here. Well, I happen to love this club and it really is their loss! Come on you Seagulls!!!!
From Sky: Huddersfield Town have rejected a bid from Brighton for midfielder Adam Clayton. Whoops - it seems that we are bidding for a number of players - all of whom don't want to come here. Well, I happen to love this club and it really is their loss! Come on you Seagulls!!!! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 6

5:35pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Falmer Wizard says...

I consider that with a number of our long time injuries becoming available shortly we can secure a top half of the table position without spending now.
I consider that with a number of our long time injuries becoming available shortly we can secure a top half of the table position without spending now. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: -3

6:12pm Wed 29 Jan 14

VegasSeagull says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
From Sky: Huddersfield Town have rejected a bid from Brighton for midfielder Adam Clayton. Whoops - it seems that we are bidding for a number of players - all of whom don't want to come here. Well, I happen to love this club and it really is their loss! Come on you Seagulls!!!!
The player has not said no, his club declined our bid.
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: From Sky: Huddersfield Town have rejected a bid from Brighton for midfielder Adam Clayton. Whoops - it seems that we are bidding for a number of players - all of whom don't want to come here. Well, I happen to love this club and it really is their loss! Come on you Seagulls!!!![/p][/quote]The player has not said no, his club declined our bid. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant.

Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board.
At most other clubs, the assistant doesn't do all the talking...On that basis, it's natural.
Because OG isn't a fluent English speaker.
Southampton have the same situation - others speak for Pochettino, but the S'ton fans never refer to, nor slag off, the person passing the message in English to the media.

So, no, it isn't natural to slag off the messenger, unless the person watching cannot comprehend NJ's modest role. NJ is well down the hierarchy at the club, just getting on with assisting in the coaching the first team squad.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Nasty little obsession by a few here, and on other websites, in talking about Nathan Jones usually slagging him off. He's a purely an assistant manager/coach, and going by the playing style increasing this season,mis doing a good job. He may a small input into player buys. These comments are very strange - at other clubs, you name them all, fans simply don't talk about the assistant. Player acquisitions will be dealt with by Burke and OG, with the financial say from the Board.[/p][/quote]At most other clubs, the assistant doesn't do all the talking...On that basis, it's natural.[/p][/quote]Because OG isn't a fluent English speaker. Southampton have the same situation - others speak for Pochettino, but the S'ton fans never refer to, nor slag off, the person passing the message in English to the media. So, no, it isn't natural to slag off the messenger, unless the person watching cannot comprehend NJ's modest role. NJ is well down the hierarchy at the club, just getting on with assisting in the coaching the first team squad. Withdean-er
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Withdean-er says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Next year's season ticket sales could very well be influenced by the summer signings. Top six this year, maybe not, top ten nailed on.
Oscar coming more to the fore with regards to new players next year could well be on the cards.
If there is to be a rebuild for a top two spot in the summer we would soon know it by the players we buy or sign on a season long loan deal, a few of the right type would very quickly get the season ticket sales going.
I think the ambition for promotion was there at the start of this season but who knew what would happen re injuries.
Or - a couple of greater signings now, will keep the impetus going and a feel good factor, leading to the vast majority of s/t holders renewing.

Against - a flat transfer window, and falling away in the league, will be the final straw for a large number of marginal s/t holders. I know quite a few who are giving up this at the end of this season anyway, fed up for example with the time and transport involved in just wanting to see home games of their local football team. Performances and a quality team on the pitch will keep others lured.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Next year's season ticket sales could very well be influenced by the summer signings. Top six this year, maybe not, top ten nailed on. Oscar coming more to the fore with regards to new players next year could well be on the cards. If there is to be a rebuild for a top two spot in the summer we would soon know it by the players we buy or sign on a season long loan deal, a few of the right type would very quickly get the season ticket sales going. I think the ambition for promotion was there at the start of this season but who knew what would happen re injuries.[/p][/quote]Or - a couple of greater signings now, will keep the impetus going and a feel good factor, leading to the vast majority of s/t holders renewing. Against - a flat transfer window, and falling away in the league, will be the final straw for a large number of marginal s/t holders. I know quite a few who are giving up this at the end of this season anyway, fed up for example with the time and transport involved in just wanting to see home games of their local football team. Performances and a quality team on the pitch will keep others lured. Withdean-er
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Wed 29 Jan 14

albion64 says...

tonypulis wrote:
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
Ok Pony Tulis, we understand that you are bored. Why don't you create a forum for Palarce? Then you won't have to butt in on ours. In the nicest possible way of course. : ) UTA
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: "This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"[/p][/quote]Ok Pony Tulis, we understand that you are bored. Why don't you create a forum for Palarce? Then you won't have to butt in on ours. In the nicest possible way of course. : ) UTA albion64
  • Score: -2

8:00pm Wed 29 Jan 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

A theory could be that the whole Bridcutt, Buckley - Wickham deal could hinge on us bringing in a midfield replacement for Crofts. We haven't been very successful in that quest if correct. Interesting that Cattermole is not in Sunderlands squad tonight due to an unspecified niggle. Could that be the sweetner to make it all happen (loan of course)?
A theory could be that the whole Bridcutt, Buckley - Wickham deal could hinge on us bringing in a midfield replacement for Crofts. We haven't been very successful in that quest if correct. Interesting that Cattermole is not in Sunderlands squad tonight due to an unspecified niggle. Could that be the sweetner to make it all happen (loan of course)? WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 0

8:28pm Wed 29 Jan 14

OldGull says...

albion64 wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
"This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best"

This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"
Ok Pony Tulis, we understand that you are bored. Why don't you create a forum for Palarce? Then you won't have to butt in on ours. In the nicest possible way of course. : ) UTA
Leave poor old Tony alone
He comes on here for a bit of light relief from the stress of working at Palarse

He also talks more sense than the several "half empty brigade" who pretend to talk for the majority on this site.

TB with OG, will take us to the prem
B&B are doing TB's bidding.
We are on the ascendency
UTA
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: "This isn't how it works. The men in suits are trading, end of. Men in tracksuits are scratching their heads and hoping for the best" This pretty much sums it up for me. I'm never sure who is going to come through the dressing room door next. I just work with what I am given. Even if Dale Winton and his agent Derek did walk through that door I reckon I could turn him into a half decent player. Even John Inman was quite a good player in his time. He used to play on the wing, was always finding space and shouting *I'm Free"[/p][/quote]Ok Pony Tulis, we understand that you are bored. Why don't you create a forum for Palarce? Then you won't have to butt in on ours. In the nicest possible way of course. : ) UTA[/p][/quote]Leave poor old Tony alone He comes on here for a bit of light relief from the stress of working at Palarse He also talks more sense than the several "half empty brigade" who pretend to talk for the majority on this site. TB with OG, will take us to the prem B&B are doing TB's bidding. We are on the ascendency UTA OldGull
  • Score: 3

8:45pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pte says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.
He probably knows a lot more than Oscar about the UK player market and the quality of those players. Oscar may know about players in Barcelona but nothing about players in the UK apart from what he's seen in the last 26 matches so NJ is far more experienced

He personally knows the players which is more than usually is the case
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If this is true, it seems to suggest that NJ is the one picking players !, that fills me with great hope (NOT), with all due respect to Nathan, what was the highest level he ever achieved as a player compared to Oscar ? Can we please have some input from Oscar and his contacts instead of NJ.[/p][/quote]He probably knows a lot more than Oscar about the UK player market and the quality of those players. Oscar may know about players in Barcelona but nothing about players in the UK apart from what he's seen in the last 26 matches so NJ is far more experienced He personally knows the players which is more than usually is the case pte
  • Score: 0

12:41am Thu 30 Jan 14

tonypulis says...

'They tried to make me go to Brighton but I said, "No, no, no"
Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know, know
I ain't got the time and if the chairman thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to Brighton, I won't go, go, go'

as sung by Aaron Wilbrahim
'They tried to make me go to Brighton but I said, "No, no, no" Yes, I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know, know I ain't got the time and if the chairman thinks I'm fine He's tried to make me go to Brighton, I won't go, go, go' as sung by Aaron Wilbrahim tonypulis
  • Score: 1

1:01am Thu 30 Jan 14

Mancgulled says...

Glad he cast doubt over the deal. Look at Charltons last 6 matches - he features in 5 of them - 2 yellow cards and substituted in the most emphatic victory ( by a player caled Poyet no less! ). Sounds like a real prospect - we don't have to spend just because we can! what happened to Conway????
Better yet -- ONCE AGAIN we have the meanest away defence apparently - get Wardy and tie him down -- now there would surely be money better spent!?
Glad he cast doubt over the deal. Look at Charltons last 6 matches - he features in 5 of them - 2 yellow cards and substituted in the most emphatic victory ( by a player caled Poyet no less! ). Sounds like a real prospect - we don't have to spend just because we can! what happened to Conway???? Better yet -- ONCE AGAIN we have the meanest away defence apparently - get Wardy and tie him down -- now there would surely be money better spent!? Mancgulled
  • Score: 1

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