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So what do you think? Give us your assessment of Albion's January dealings

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The window is shut. So what do you make of Albion’s January dealings?

Are you happy the additions have, at least, covered for those who have gone?

Do you feel Oscar Garcia has the squad to challenge for the play-offs?

Do you want to see more signings in the loan window – and, if so, in which areas?

Has deadline day left you confident about the coming weeks?

Or was it a bit of a let down?

We’d love to know your thoughts.


 

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11:38pm Fri 31 Jan 14

ballantrrae says...

I think the jury is out at the moment. One will be able to judge better in a month's time.
3 established players sold but with Crofts's injury we are effectively down 4 players. On the other hand we have acquired Stephens and Rodriguez. I would give Burke and his team credit for perserverence in spite of the various set backs.
I feel we haven't brought in enough new blood to sustain our push for the play-offs but appreciate that with the Loan window re-opening in about 8 days there may still be business to be done.
The one real positive has been that we have generated about £4 million from player sales including the club record fee for Bridcutt. Most of that £4 million is still available for the Summer transfer window.
On a success rating basis I would award the Albion a 6 out of 10 for the window.
I think the jury is out at the moment. One will be able to judge better in a month's time. 3 established players sold but with Crofts's injury we are effectively down 4 players. On the other hand we have acquired Stephens and Rodriguez. I would give Burke and his team credit for perserverence in spite of the various set backs. I feel we haven't brought in enough new blood to sustain our push for the play-offs but appreciate that with the Loan window re-opening in about 8 days there may still be business to be done. The one real positive has been that we have generated about £4 million from player sales including the club record fee for Bridcutt. Most of that £4 million is still available for the Summer transfer window. On a success rating basis I would award the Albion a 6 out of 10 for the window. ballantrrae
  • Score: 10

11:59pm Fri 31 Jan 14

albionbloke says...

Happy with the 2 we brought in, would like to have got more for Bridcutt, but would sooner take the 2.5m rather than have him here sulking. Based upon CMS coming back and "if" Buckley stays healthy (and providing his head is still with us) then I think we'll be fine. Good form from our up-and-coming youngsters plus one or two shrewd loan signings when that window opens could make the difference. I think we'll be in with a playoff shout at least.
Happy with the 2 we brought in, would like to have got more for Bridcutt, but would sooner take the 2.5m rather than have him here sulking. Based upon CMS coming back and "if" Buckley stays healthy (and providing his head is still with us) then I think we'll be fine. Good form from our up-and-coming youngsters plus one or two shrewd loan signings when that window opens could make the difference. I think we'll be in with a playoff shout at least. albionbloke
  • Score: 7

12:02am Sat 1 Feb 14

VegasSeagull says...

With the window now closed I have to think that the club would have liked to have done a little more business, but I don't think anyone at the club will think that we have failed. As we now approach the loan window we might see some unfinished business completed. There were a lot of loan deals completed today but none of them involved us, my guess is that we will step into the loan market when it opens.

Over all I would say that we had a good window. We acquired what appear to be two good signings, we picked up a sizable amount of money when all our sales are added together and we only lost one gem, a gem we always knew we were going to lose.
With the window now closed I have to think that the club would have liked to have done a little more business, but I don't think anyone at the club will think that we have failed. As we now approach the loan window we might see some unfinished business completed. There were a lot of loan deals completed today but none of them involved us, my guess is that we will step into the loan market when it opens. Over all I would say that we had a good window. We acquired what appear to be two good signings, we picked up a sizable amount of money when all our sales are added together and we only lost one gem, a gem we always knew we were going to lose. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

12:18am Sat 1 Feb 14

tonypulis says...

...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him.
...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him. tonypulis
  • Score: 1

12:33am Sat 1 Feb 14

albion64 says...

tonypulis wrote:
...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him.
I thought I told you to f'@ck off
[quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: ...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him.[/p][/quote]I thought I told you to f'@ck off albion64
  • Score: -9

12:44am Sat 1 Feb 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I think we've done all right. Too many player changes upset the balance of the squad anyway.

I guess any perceived gaps will be covered by loans in any case, but other than a 3rd/4th choice centre-back I think we're covered.
I think we've done all right. Too many player changes upset the balance of the squad anyway. I guess any perceived gaps will be covered by loans in any case, but other than a 3rd/4th choice centre-back I think we're covered. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

12:46am Sat 1 Feb 14

tonypulis says...

I'm still here x
I'm still here x tonypulis
  • Score: 2

1:42am Sat 1 Feb 14

mark by the sea says...

This is difficult to answer, judgement will be on results rather than performances ... If Rodney is a damp squid... ( he is here for three months)
Then it' will be a failure.
One question is what is our best starting 11, ?
7 players pick themselves, I suppose dale is in, but three places ?
Add a fully fit cms and Hoskins and what team would win us 12 - 13 more games....
This is difficult to answer, judgement will be on results rather than performances ... If Rodney is a damp squid... ( he is here for three months) Then it' will be a failure. One question is what is our best starting 11, ? 7 players pick themselves, I suppose dale is in, but three places ? Add a fully fit cms and Hoskins and what team would win us 12 - 13 more games.... mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

3:22am Sat 1 Feb 14

kwaidam says...

albion64 wrote:
tonypulis wrote:
...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him.
I thought I told you to f'@ck off
Pathetic. We like mr Pulis. Where's your sense of humour?
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonypulis[/bold] wrote: ...........anyway, Buckley is rubbish. I didn't really want to sign him.[/p][/quote]I thought I told you to f'@ck off[/p][/quote]Pathetic. We like mr Pulis. Where's your sense of humour? kwaidam
  • Score: 4

7:40am Sat 1 Feb 14

JollyRoger says...

I think it's too early to make any decision about the signings we've made at the moment but I do wonder if the money we've made from the signings will go anywhere near to reducing the losses that we're expected to make. I am still convinced that our commitment to FFP will come back to bite us.

It's great that we have a lot of players coming back from injury but I don't see us in the Premiership next year so....., another season in the Championship next season. Not a bad thing necessarily but we must really press on from here.
I think it's too early to make any decision about the signings we've made at the moment but I do wonder if the money we've made from the signings will go anywhere near to reducing the losses that we're expected to make. I am still convinced that our commitment to FFP will come back to bite us. It's great that we have a lot of players coming back from injury but I don't see us in the Premiership next year so....., another season in the Championship next season. Not a bad thing necessarily but we must really press on from here. JollyRoger
  • Score: 1

7:48am Sat 1 Feb 14

namgo49 says...

We have a decent squad and it is clear top players will not come just to be bench warmers, eg Grabban. Interesting about the late bid for CMS who of course has Peterborough family connections. Makes you wonder if he thinks he may not now fit in, not that he ever truly has.

Too many signings or marque signings can, as had been said, unbalance a squad. Leicester Forest, I think will be top two with us, Burnley, QPR, Wigan, Derby, Ipswich & Reading looking for the play off places.

I think we shall fall short again but I am not bothered except for the fact we shall need a new top goalkeeper as TK will leave and maybe Ulloa and Buckley. Still we should be able to get Bobby Z back for free.
We have a decent squad and it is clear top players will not come just to be bench warmers, eg Grabban. Interesting about the late bid for CMS who of course has Peterborough family connections. Makes you wonder if he thinks he may not now fit in, not that he ever truly has. Too many signings or marque signings can, as had been said, unbalance a squad. Leicester Forest, I think will be top two with us, Burnley, QPR, Wigan, Derby, Ipswich & Reading looking for the play off places. I think we shall fall short again but I am not bothered except for the fact we shall need a new top goalkeeper as TK will leave and maybe Ulloa and Buckley. Still we should be able to get Bobby Z back for free. namgo49
  • Score: -3

7:53am Sat 1 Feb 14

Albion In Staffs says...

ballantrrae wrote:
I think the jury is out at the moment. One will be able to judge better in a month's time.
3 established players sold but with Crofts's injury we are effectively down 4 players. On the other hand we have acquired Stephens and Rodriguez. I would give Burke and his team credit for perserverence in spite of the various set backs.
I feel we haven't brought in enough new blood to sustain our push for the play-offs but appreciate that with the Loan window re-opening in about 8 days there may still be business to be done.
The one real positive has been that we have generated about £4 million from player sales including the club record fee for Bridcutt. Most of that £4 million is still available for the Summer transfer window.
On a success rating basis I would award the Albion a 6 out of 10 for the window.
I agree it'll take a month before you can judge, but i wouldn't mind betting there'll be immediate, knee jerk criticism of the club and it's dealings if we lose at Watford tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: I think the jury is out at the moment. One will be able to judge better in a month's time. 3 established players sold but with Crofts's injury we are effectively down 4 players. On the other hand we have acquired Stephens and Rodriguez. I would give Burke and his team credit for perserverence in spite of the various set backs. I feel we haven't brought in enough new blood to sustain our push for the play-offs but appreciate that with the Loan window re-opening in about 8 days there may still be business to be done. The one real positive has been that we have generated about £4 million from player sales including the club record fee for Bridcutt. Most of that £4 million is still available for the Summer transfer window. On a success rating basis I would award the Albion a 6 out of 10 for the window.[/p][/quote]I agree it'll take a month before you can judge, but i wouldn't mind betting there'll be immediate, knee jerk criticism of the club and it's dealings if we lose at Watford tomorrow. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

7:54am Sat 1 Feb 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Blobbby zamrao getum donuts eatum up oo. a e
Blobbby zamrao getum donuts eatum up oo. a e seegull fly in sky
  • Score: 3

8:02am Sat 1 Feb 14

SMF20 says...

For me I don't think we have been ambitious enough.

I personally dont mind championship football as long as we are competitive every week and make slow strides forward.
I think at the moment though that we are going slightly the wrong way.
We took good money in January but gave very little out in comparison.. We had 4 or 5 very senior players come forward asking for a bit of help which I have never seen before and very much see as a cry for help.
Things may not look that bad now with everyone still on board but I wonder how people will feel in the summer when the likes of Kuz and Upson leave for other championship clubs.

I know people like to think all is great and don't like to read anything said against our club but for me and imho only, things don't look good moving forward.
If we can some how keep Lua Lua and Buckley fit for the rest of the season then I think we may have an outside chance of the playoffs but how likely is that... We look toothless without them and really should have got Conway back.

I'm disappointed is my answer to the Argus question.
For me I don't think we have been ambitious enough. I personally dont mind championship football as long as we are competitive every week and make slow strides forward. I think at the moment though that we are going slightly the wrong way. We took good money in January but gave very little out in comparison.. We had 4 or 5 very senior players come forward asking for a bit of help which I have never seen before and very much see as a cry for help. Things may not look that bad now with everyone still on board but I wonder how people will feel in the summer when the likes of Kuz and Upson leave for other championship clubs. I know people like to think all is great and don't like to read anything said against our club but for me and imho only, things don't look good moving forward. If we can some how keep Lua Lua and Buckley fit for the rest of the season then I think we may have an outside chance of the playoffs but how likely is that... We look toothless without them and really should have got Conway back. I'm disappointed is my answer to the Argus question. SMF20
  • Score: 5

9:00am Sat 1 Feb 14

Clean Sheet says...

I think we have done OK. We have unloaded a couple of willing, yet limited players, brought 3 or 4 in. I think the only area we need to cover in the loan window is another CB. I think we have strength in all the other areas, especially with CMS back in a few weeks. We have lots of options in the midfield and now up front.
I think we have done OK. We have unloaded a couple of willing, yet limited players, brought 3 or 4 in. I think the only area we need to cover in the loan window is another CB. I think we have strength in all the other areas, especially with CMS back in a few weeks. We have lots of options in the midfield and now up front. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 2

9:08am Sat 1 Feb 14

Neville says...

At the start of the season TB expected a top 6 finish and advised that the playing budget was virtually the same as the previous season. Well,not all of the budget was used and we have have now banked more money to comply with FFP rules,or perhaps to avoid TB having to dip into his pockets again to make up the 5m which he is permitted to do under the rules and thats fair enough.
Having looked at the overall picture,my opinion is that we just do not have enough quality to make that 6th place and all our competitors have seemed to strengthened with quality,NF and QPR seem to buying at will.
As I have said in other posts FFP penalties do not take effect until Dec 2014 by which time those two teams may well be in the PL with all its riches,they will have built squads to stay in the PL and can take the any hit FFP imposes,its a gamble yes but one some clubs are happy to take.
We may of course use the loan window but I think we will finish around 8th,which considering all that has happened will be acceptable to most.
The worry is that TK and MU will leave,we have a few loanees currently and some other contracts only have a year or so left, so without promotion the squad needs a rebuild and I personally think promotion will be even harder next year.
If the season end does falter there will be quite a few not renewing,especially with a price increase likely again.
Whatever happens a rebuild has to take place.
No problem with the thumbs down but sometimes a dose of reality is needed,its not being negative,just realistic. I am a lifelong supporter and want the club to succeed,not convinced this is totally the right way at present.
At the start of the season TB expected a top 6 finish and advised that the playing budget was virtually the same as the previous season. Well,not all of the budget was used and we have have now banked more money to comply with FFP rules,or perhaps to avoid TB having to dip into his pockets again to make up the 5m which he is permitted to do under the rules and thats fair enough. Having looked at the overall picture,my opinion is that we just do not have enough quality to make that 6th place and all our competitors have seemed to strengthened with quality,NF and QPR seem to buying at will. As I have said in other posts FFP penalties do not take effect until Dec 2014 by which time those two teams may well be in the PL with all its riches,they will have built squads to stay in the PL and can take the any hit FFP imposes,its a gamble yes but one some clubs are happy to take. We may of course use the loan window but I think we will finish around 8th,which considering all that has happened will be acceptable to most. The worry is that TK and MU will leave,we have a few loanees currently and some other contracts only have a year or so left, so without promotion the squad needs a rebuild and I personally think promotion will be even harder next year. If the season end does falter there will be quite a few not renewing,especially with a price increase likely again. Whatever happens a rebuild has to take place. No problem with the thumbs down but sometimes a dose of reality is needed,its not being negative,just realistic. I am a lifelong supporter and want the club to succeed,not convinced this is totally the right way at present. Neville
  • Score: 4

9:09am Sat 1 Feb 14

Albion In Staffs says...

I can't make an assessment on the players we've brought in because I don't know enough (anything?) about either of them, but overall, I'm more comfortable to stash whatever income we've achieved for use in the summer.
OG didn't have enough time to assess and use the 'proper' window in last year, so surely far better to keep your powder dry during the hysterical, over-hyped month of January? There's far better value for money in the close season.
I can't make an assessment on the players we've brought in because I don't know enough (anything?) about either of them, but overall, I'm more comfortable to stash whatever income we've achieved for use in the summer. OG didn't have enough time to assess and use the 'proper' window in last year, so surely far better to keep your powder dry during the hysterical, over-hyped month of January? There's far better value for money in the close season. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

10:58am Sat 1 Feb 14

Baldseagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
This is difficult to answer, judgement will be on results rather than performances ... If Rodney is a damp squid... ( he is here for three months)
Then it' will be a failure.
One question is what is our best starting 11, ?
7 players pick themselves, I suppose dale is in, but three places ?
Add a fully fit cms and Hoskins and what team would win us 12 - 13 more games....
All Squid are damp, and never go bang.
Whatever our best starting 11 before the window was, it would have had Crofts, Barnes and Bridcutt in it. I think Dale Stephens will be in the new best 11 but Obika and Monakana won't be, El Rodney is a maybe.
I think we are weaker after the window than we were before it, so it has to go down as a bad window for us, but it could have been worse and we might still get loans that change that.


Would El Rodney have been able to come to us outside of the window if he terminated his contract at Celta? Was he, in effect, a free agent when we signed him, and could we still pick up a player or two this way?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: This is difficult to answer, judgement will be on results rather than performances ... If Rodney is a damp squid... ( he is here for three months) Then it' will be a failure. One question is what is our best starting 11, ? 7 players pick themselves, I suppose dale is in, but three places ? Add a fully fit cms and Hoskins and what team would win us 12 - 13 more games....[/p][/quote]All Squid are damp, and never go bang. Whatever our best starting 11 before the window was, it would have had Crofts, Barnes and Bridcutt in it. I think Dale Stephens will be in the new best 11 but Obika and Monakana won't be, El Rodney is a maybe. I think we are weaker after the window than we were before it, so it has to go down as a bad window for us, but it could have been worse and we might still get loans that change that. Would El Rodney have been able to come to us outside of the window if he terminated his contract at Celta? Was he, in effect, a free agent when we signed him, and could we still pick up a player or two this way? Baldseagull
  • Score: -1

11:44am Sat 1 Feb 14

fratsomrover says...

As Shakespeare once said " Much ado about Nothing "

Great expectations, to quote Dickens, but in reality nothing of substance.
We've signed a trainee from Spurs on loan, a midfielder no one had heard of from a side near the bottom of the division, and a free agent from a second division Spanish team.
Not exactly what we were expecting or had been promised.
Scary to see some of the other top ten teams in the division, buying known talent for their promotion pushes.
No Conway, No Grabban, I dont really see where the added goal power we require is going to come from unless Buckley comes back in full song and CMS becomes a revelation on his return.
I think it will be tough with these signings to show much improvement on where we are now, so in all it's been a disappointing window after all the hype and all the money we've bought in from our sales.
I'd love the new signings to prove me wrong, but I guess time will tell
As Shakespeare once said " Much ado about Nothing " Great expectations, to quote Dickens, but in reality nothing of substance. We've signed a trainee from Spurs on loan, a midfielder no one had heard of from a side near the bottom of the division, and a free agent from a second division Spanish team. Not exactly what we were expecting or had been promised. Scary to see some of the other top ten teams in the division, buying known talent for their promotion pushes. No Conway, No Grabban, I dont really see where the added goal power we require is going to come from unless Buckley comes back in full song and CMS becomes a revelation on his return. I think it will be tough with these signings to show much improvement on where we are now, so in all it's been a disappointing window after all the hype and all the money we've bought in from our sales. I'd love the new signings to prove me wrong, but I guess time will tell fratsomrover
  • Score: 1

7:38pm Sat 1 Feb 14

sussexram40 says...

Conway - Gone
Bridcutt - Gone
Barnes - Gone

And who's come in?

We end January weaker not stronger. The FFP excuse doesn't wash. Other clubs ignore it. If Bloom won't put his hand in his considerable pocket it's time for new owners.
Conway - Gone Bridcutt - Gone Barnes - Gone And who's come in? We end January weaker not stronger. The FFP excuse doesn't wash. Other clubs ignore it. If Bloom won't put his hand in his considerable pocket it's time for new owners. sussexram40
  • Score: 0

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