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Agustien facing fitness fight

The Argus: Kemy Agustien plays for Albion's development team today Kemy Agustien plays for Albion's development team today

Kemy Agustien is playing for Albion's development team at Bristol City today (1pm).

The Seagulls are trying to get the mercurial Dutch midfielder fitter for first team action.

Agustien has dropped out of the first team picture recently after signing from Swansea in the summer.

Assistant head coach Nathan Jones told The Argus: "Kemy will get fitter and will get games in the under 21's".

Will Hoskins is expected to play at least a half against Bristol after a brief goalscoring return from a year out wtih serious knee damage against the same opponents at Lancing a week ago.

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11:18am Mon 3 Mar 14

college says...

Mercurial Dutch midfielder? - just how unfit was he when he came and where's he been doing his training since - wetherspoons?
Great player at previous clubs - in limbo since he came.
Mercurial Dutch midfielder? - just how unfit was he when he came and where's he been doing his training since - wetherspoons? Great player at previous clubs - in limbo since he came. college
  • Score: 2

11:30am Mon 3 Mar 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

Is there more to this than just fitness? It seems strange that Kemy has had so few first team opportunities, he even dropped out of FA cup reckoning.
When we bought him from Swansea he had played 19 premier league games , we were told. I think he has a two year contract, what a waste of money and talent , questions must be asked why the management team has failed to harness his undoubted skills for the benefit of the team, and if this is not possible why did we sign him in the first place ? If we cant , better to loan him out so he can get match fit somewhere else. Are there similarities here to what happened with Lita ?
Is there more to this than just fitness? It seems strange that Kemy has had so few first team opportunities, he even dropped out of FA cup reckoning. When we bought him from Swansea he had played 19 premier league games , we were told. I think he has a two year contract, what a waste of money and talent , questions must be asked why the management team has failed to harness his undoubted skills for the benefit of the team, and if this is not possible why did we sign him in the first place ? If we cant , better to loan him out so he can get match fit somewhere else. Are there similarities here to what happened with Lita ? The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: 7

11:30am Mon 3 Mar 14

Piglet1 says...

Not sure how a professional footballer can get so unfit, unless he has no self control or desire to play. Seems like a waste of wages which I suspect are not inconsiderable.
Not sure how a professional footballer can get so unfit, unless he has no self control or desire to play. Seems like a waste of wages which I suspect are not inconsiderable. Piglet1
  • Score: 10

11:43am Mon 3 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

Where on earth do the Argus get "mercurial midfielder" ? The guy has been a complete waste either because he wasn't wanted by Oscar in the first place or has no dedication to get fit, clearly he should be worth better than the U21 squad, who exactly motivates the players these days, ? there are a lot of un-answered questions here, about player recruitment and use, Agustein, Lita, Obika,! there appears to be a pattern developing here, and I still wonder how much input Oscar has on who the club bring in, maybe he doesn't play people in protest at having below par, unfit players forced on him, how long is he going to put up with it.
On a separate note I see the club have brought in a Rugby club physio, so maybe he can toughen the players up a bit and stop all these recurring injuries that we seem never to get on top of.
Where on earth do the Argus get "mercurial midfielder" ? The guy has been a complete waste either because he wasn't wanted by Oscar in the first place or has no dedication to get fit, clearly he should be worth better than the U21 squad, who exactly motivates the players these days, ? there are a lot of un-answered questions here, about player recruitment and use, Agustein, Lita, Obika,! there appears to be a pattern developing here, and I still wonder how much input Oscar has on who the club bring in, maybe he doesn't play people in protest at having below par, unfit players forced on him, how long is he going to put up with it. On a separate note I see the club have brought in a Rugby club physio, so maybe he can toughen the players up a bit and stop all these recurring injuries that we seem never to get on top of. Steveg1958
  • Score: 3

12:03pm Mon 3 Mar 14

gilbertthecat says...

When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game.
When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 3

12:10pm Mon 3 Mar 14

SecondReserve says...

How can a professional athlete who is not injured and who (supposedly) trains all week possibly not be fit enough to join 21 others in kicking a ball around a field for 90 minutes once a week???????????
How can a professional athlete who is not injured and who (supposedly) trains all week possibly not be fit enough to join 21 others in kicking a ball around a field for 90 minutes once a week??????????? SecondReserve
  • Score: 6

12:15pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bbb1969 says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game.
I have the same illness; it's called the Seagulls breakfast pie.
I have been wanting to see Augustien as he showed some promise in a couple of games. This article has made me rethink; things need to be sorted here as he was a good player. Something has obviuosly happened. Hope he gets fit if that is all it is.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game.[/p][/quote]I have the same illness; it's called the Seagulls breakfast pie. I have been wanting to see Augustien as he showed some promise in a couple of games. This article has made me rethink; things need to be sorted here as he was a good player. Something has obviuosly happened. Hope he gets fit if that is all it is. bbb1969
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Mon 3 Mar 14

jonwaller8508 says...

This signing has been a disaster and we should look to move him on in the summer. He should be playing a huge role in the team and should be a leader in midfield but I would imagine he has been having a detrimental effect in the changing room
This signing has been a disaster and we should look to move him on in the summer. He should be playing a huge role in the team and should be a leader in midfield but I would imagine he has been having a detrimental effect in the changing room jonwaller8508
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

gilbertthecat says...

bbb1969 wrote:
gilbertthecat wrote:
When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game.
I have the same illness; it's called the Seagulls breakfast pie.
I have been wanting to see Augustien as he showed some promise in a couple of games. This article has made me rethink; things need to be sorted here as he was a good player. Something has obviuosly happened. Hope he gets fit if that is all it is.
I did notice that the guest pies seem to run out pretty fast every week but that breakfast pie is indeed something else! Now who do we think ate all of them?
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: When he came to the Amex many pointed out he looked a little on the heavy side and unfit. Some games he played he looked quite promising but wasn't consistent, even when he appeared to be a bit 'fitter'. Perhaps he has some illness which affects his weight and general fitness that wasn't apparent until now, who knows. NJ saying he needs to get fit suggests he hasn't stayed fit in the last couple of months. If he's getting game time in the DS to get fit it seems the club haven't given up on him so there must be something causing it. Be interesting to see how he does in this game.[/p][/quote]I have the same illness; it's called the Seagulls breakfast pie. I have been wanting to see Augustien as he showed some promise in a couple of games. This article has made me rethink; things need to be sorted here as he was a good player. Something has obviuosly happened. Hope he gets fit if that is all it is.[/p][/quote]I did notice that the guest pies seem to run out pretty fast every week but that breakfast pie is indeed something else! Now who do we think ate all of them? gilbertthecat
  • Score: 2

12:41pm Mon 3 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both.

Eating disorder, comfort food binging?
Medical issue, get his thyroid checked?

Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods.
There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both. Eating disorder, comfort food binging? Medical issue, get his thyroid checked? Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

12:47pm Mon 3 Mar 14

gilbertthecat says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both.

Eating disorder, comfort food binging?
Medical issue, get his thyroid checked?

Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods.
I seem to recall someone mentioning seeing a player on nights out at the casino in the Marina. Was he talking about KA or someone else?Not that I usually take any notice of that contributor but maybe this is one thing he is right about - for a change.

Even in the pic above KA does look a bit 'weighty'. If he changed that to muscle he would look a strong and physical player and we could use one of those sometimes.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both. Eating disorder, comfort food binging? Medical issue, get his thyroid checked? Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods.[/p][/quote]I seem to recall someone mentioning seeing a player on nights out at the casino in the Marina. Was he talking about KA or someone else?Not that I usually take any notice of that contributor but maybe this is one thing he is right about - for a change. Even in the pic above KA does look a bit 'weighty'. If he changed that to muscle he would look a strong and physical player and we could use one of those sometimes. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Grendel says...

An even worse signing than Dobbie.
An even worse signing than Dobbie. Grendel
  • Score: 1

12:53pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Piglet1 says...

Grendel wrote:
An even worse signing than Dobbie.
But we did manage to get rid of Dobbie quickly so maybe that should be pursued.
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: An even worse signing than Dobbie.[/p][/quote]But we did manage to get rid of Dobbie quickly so maybe that should be pursued. Piglet1
  • Score: 2

1:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

seagullsays says...

So he's not injured, just unfit. The U21's don't play enough for him to get fit. If he and the club haven't got him fit enough by now, send him on loan to play regularly. This is nonsense, and I suspect, not the full story. I thought he looked useful when he played. What a waste.
So he's not injured, just unfit. The U21's don't play enough for him to get fit. If he and the club haven't got him fit enough by now, send him on loan to play regularly. This is nonsense, and I suspect, not the full story. I thought he looked useful when he played. What a waste. seagullsays
  • Score: 2

1:21pm Mon 3 Mar 14

JohnnyCrumplinFootballGenius says...

Most of you on here needs to wake up - he's a lashead, womaniser and is uninterested in anything close to being a professional. I wouldn't be surprised if the game for the U21's isn't punishment for poor attitude (see Adebayor under AVB). One bit of research with Swansea fans can confirm this. And yes, I agree I think these players were signed without Oscar's authority, part of the cost cutting - I should imagine the poorer players are offered to us on the cheap (Obika, Kemmy, Rodriguez) and snapped up due to our FFP commitments.
Most of you on here needs to wake up - he's a lashead, womaniser and is uninterested in anything close to being a professional. I wouldn't be surprised if the game for the U21's isn't punishment for poor attitude (see Adebayor under AVB). One bit of research with Swansea fans can confirm this. And yes, I agree I think these players were signed without Oscar's authority, part of the cost cutting - I should imagine the poorer players are offered to us on the cheap (Obika, Kemmy, Rodriguez) and snapped up due to our FFP commitments. JohnnyCrumplinFootballGenius
  • Score: 1

1:27pm Mon 3 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both.

Eating disorder, comfort food binging?
Medical issue, get his thyroid checked?

Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods.
I seem to recall someone mentioning seeing a player on nights out at the casino in the Marina. Was he talking about KA or someone else?Not that I usually take any notice of that contributor but maybe this is one thing he is right about - for a change.

Even in the pic above KA does look a bit 'weighty'. If he changed that to muscle he would look a strong and physical player and we could use one of those sometimes.
With the amount of time Kemmy has been at the club by now he should have got rid of excess body fat, so to me it sounds like a stamina issue, his body is tiring too quickly. If Kemmy is still carrying excess weight I think that we might not have heard about it as this would be seen as a failure by the player and or the coaches, one or both not doing what is right and Jones ain't gonna tell us that.
If Kemmy is doing all the right things but still has a problem then it has to be down to a question of metabolics, and that's something for the docs to sort out.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There are two ways to look at a player's fitness, either he is still carrying some weight, or the weight is gone but he is short on stamina, regardless of which it is, he has been with us for long enough now to have fixed both. Eating disorder, comfort food binging? Medical issue, get his thyroid checked? Is Kemmy married, does he live alone, if possible have him move in with one of the single lads who is fit so that they consume the same foods.[/p][/quote]I seem to recall someone mentioning seeing a player on nights out at the casino in the Marina. Was he talking about KA or someone else?Not that I usually take any notice of that contributor but maybe this is one thing he is right about - for a change. Even in the pic above KA does look a bit 'weighty'. If he changed that to muscle he would look a strong and physical player and we could use one of those sometimes.[/p][/quote]With the amount of time Kemmy has been at the club by now he should have got rid of excess body fat, so to me it sounds like a stamina issue, his body is tiring too quickly. If Kemmy is still carrying excess weight I think that we might not have heard about it as this would be seen as a failure by the player and or the coaches, one or both not doing what is right and Jones ain't gonna tell us that. If Kemmy is doing all the right things but still has a problem then it has to be down to a question of metabolics, and that's something for the docs to sort out. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Mon 3 Mar 14

wiseman of hove says...

"Mercurial" ? A very generous accolade in the circumstances. Whatever happens this season, there will be clearly need to be some inquest on the transfer/ loan policy. I remember reading comments on a Swansea forum on the day we signed Augustein. "Either injured or not selected" was one. A two year contract for a player, who may have skills, but was palpably unfit. Add in the Lita and Obika farces. Andrews and Rodriquez? Who knows who took the decisions on these players but Nathan Jones must be praying that Dale Stephens delivers because that has to be his signing.
"Mercurial" ? A very generous accolade in the circumstances. Whatever happens this season, there will be clearly need to be some inquest on the transfer/ loan policy. I remember reading comments on a Swansea forum on the day we signed Augustein. "Either injured or not selected" was one. A two year contract for a player, who may have skills, but was palpably unfit. Add in the Lita and Obika farces. Andrews and Rodriquez? Who knows who took the decisions on these players but Nathan Jones must be praying that Dale Stephens delivers because that has to be his signing. wiseman of hove
  • Score: 3

1:35pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately.
I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately. Steveg1958
  • Score: 2

1:51pm Mon 3 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately.
I have to agree that this lad, perhaps, should not have been signed but unless he gets fully fit we won't really know. The question of him not being fit, to me, is more the issue, why isn't he fit? If the guy is burning the candle at both ends he is of no use to us, and if that is the case then the club should deal with him. On the flip side, if he is doing all the right things, doing his best to be ready to play but getting no where in terms of fitness, then there might be a more serious issue that needs addressing. Jones has told us a little, maybe he should have added some more meat to the bones of his comment. It might not be wise to blame the player, not until more is known.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately.[/p][/quote]I have to agree that this lad, perhaps, should not have been signed but unless he gets fully fit we won't really know. The question of him not being fit, to me, is more the issue, why isn't he fit? If the guy is burning the candle at both ends he is of no use to us, and if that is the case then the club should deal with him. On the flip side, if he is doing all the right things, doing his best to be ready to play but getting no where in terms of fitness, then there might be a more serious issue that needs addressing. Jones has told us a little, maybe he should have added some more meat to the bones of his comment. It might not be wise to blame the player, not until more is known. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:10pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote:
I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately.
I have to agree that this lad, perhaps, should not have been signed but unless he gets fully fit we won't really know. The question of him not being fit, to me, is more the issue, why isn't he fit? If the guy is burning the candle at both ends he is of no use to us, and if that is the case then the club should deal with him. On the flip side, if he is doing all the right things, doing his best to be ready to play but getting no where in terms of fitness, then there might be a more serious issue that needs addressing. Jones has told us a little, maybe he should have added some more meat to the bones of his comment. It might not be wise to blame the player, not until more is known.
Good points Vegas and I certainly don't want to blame the player but if he had or has an underlying medical issue, then it probably isn't his fault, but it really does raise several fundamental questions whatever the case !, either he had the problem previously and it wasn't picked up by the docs prior to him signing (or it was kept a secret). or he is just plain lazy !, so whichever way you look at it, the club appear to have dropped several clangers here, and frankly that is happening far too often these days, The club need to look long and hard at player recruitment and the medical staff. It won't be the firs time that somebody responsible for finding player has been relieved of their duties through poor recruitment. I have KPI's to work to in my job ! (Key performance indicators, for the un-initiated). surely the recruitment staff have something similar in place.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: I would suggest Vegas, this has more to do with homework not being done by the recruitment team before he was signed rather than a metabolic issue it won't be the first time or the last that the club have signed a complete waste of space and money!!! trouble is it seems to be happening with a little too much regularity for my liking lately.[/p][/quote]I have to agree that this lad, perhaps, should not have been signed but unless he gets fully fit we won't really know. The question of him not being fit, to me, is more the issue, why isn't he fit? If the guy is burning the candle at both ends he is of no use to us, and if that is the case then the club should deal with him. On the flip side, if he is doing all the right things, doing his best to be ready to play but getting no where in terms of fitness, then there might be a more serious issue that needs addressing. Jones has told us a little, maybe he should have added some more meat to the bones of his comment. It might not be wise to blame the player, not until more is known.[/p][/quote]Good points Vegas and I certainly don't want to blame the player but if he had or has an underlying medical issue, then it probably isn't his fault, but it really does raise several fundamental questions whatever the case !, either he had the problem previously and it wasn't picked up by the docs prior to him signing (or it was kept a secret). or he is just plain lazy !, so whichever way you look at it, the club appear to have dropped several clangers here, and frankly that is happening far too often these days, The club need to look long and hard at player recruitment and the medical staff. It won't be the firs time that somebody responsible for finding player has been relieved of their duties through poor recruitment. I have KPI's to work to in my job ! (Key performance indicators, for the un-initiated). surely the recruitment staff have something similar in place. Steveg1958
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

JohnnyCrumplinFootba
llGenius
wrote:
Most of you on here needs to wake up - he's a lashead, womaniser and is uninterested in anything close to being a professional. I wouldn't be surprised if the game for the U21's isn't punishment for poor attitude (see Adebayor under AVB). One bit of research with Swansea fans can confirm this. And yes, I agree I think these players were signed without Oscar's authority, part of the cost cutting - I should imagine the poorer players are offered to us on the cheap (Obika, Kemmy, Rodriguez) and snapped up due to our FFP commitments.
It's hardly "cost cutting" to sign players the coach will not pick, is it? It has been stated dozens of times that all signings are approved by OG.

Also, you might want to reign in the libel somewhat...
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyCrumplinFootba llGenius[/bold] wrote: Most of you on here needs to wake up - he's a lashead, womaniser and is uninterested in anything close to being a professional. I wouldn't be surprised if the game for the U21's isn't punishment for poor attitude (see Adebayor under AVB). One bit of research with Swansea fans can confirm this. And yes, I agree I think these players were signed without Oscar's authority, part of the cost cutting - I should imagine the poorer players are offered to us on the cheap (Obika, Kemmy, Rodriguez) and snapped up due to our FFP commitments.[/p][/quote]It's hardly "cost cutting" to sign players the coach will not pick, is it? It has been stated dozens of times that all signings are approved by OG. Also, you might want to reign in the libel somewhat... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 5

2:52pm Mon 3 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Steveg, yeah I agree, questions do need to be asked about some of our business this year, but those questions are probably best left untill the end of the season. I think that there are valid questions to be asked not only about who we did sign and why, but also who we didn't sign and why, Conway an example, our FFP requirements dosn't answer all questions.

Barber has said that it is not always a simple question of wanting, and then getting a player, several factors apply and I can see that. We seem to have muddled thru this year, injuries have changed out needs at various times and to varying degrees, Lita appeared to be a knee jerk signing but Stephens, as a replacement for Crofts, does look like a more considered appointment.
I think the three sales we made, Barnes, El-Abd and Bridcutt, were sales that we really didn't have any control over. Bridcutt made it impossible to keep him, El-Abd deserved his move due to his past service to the club and his desire to play regular matches and Barnes, well he had a contract on offer from us but chose not to accept it, selling was better than losing him for nothing come the summer.

We are still in with a chance of the palyoffs, all is not lost and this month will be crucial for that desire to come about, but I think one or two extra quality loanees coming in would help but I am not sure if they are out there. If we don't get promoted it will be very interesting to see what Oscar does in regards to the squad, the suits might have a hand in who we bring in, Oscar gives them three options for once place and they get one of thsoe options, but, only Oscar should have a say in who goes.
Steveg, yeah I agree, questions do need to be asked about some of our business this year, but those questions are probably best left untill the end of the season. I think that there are valid questions to be asked not only about who we did sign and why, but also who we didn't sign and why, Conway an example, our FFP requirements dosn't answer all questions. Barber has said that it is not always a simple question of wanting, and then getting a player, several factors apply and I can see that. We seem to have muddled thru this year, injuries have changed out needs at various times and to varying degrees, Lita appeared to be a knee jerk signing but Stephens, as a replacement for Crofts, does look like a more considered appointment. I think the three sales we made, Barnes, El-Abd and Bridcutt, were sales that we really didn't have any control over. Bridcutt made it impossible to keep him, El-Abd deserved his move due to his past service to the club and his desire to play regular matches and Barnes, well he had a contract on offer from us but chose not to accept it, selling was better than losing him for nothing come the summer. We are still in with a chance of the palyoffs, all is not lost and this month will be crucial for that desire to come about, but I think one or two extra quality loanees coming in would help but I am not sure if they are out there. If we don't get promoted it will be very interesting to see what Oscar does in regards to the squad, the suits might have a hand in who we bring in, Oscar gives them three options for once place and they get one of thsoe options, but, only Oscar should have a say in who goes. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

gobias industries says...

The guy is an embarassment. He's been fat since the first game of the season
Imagine he's on big wages as well.

Surel constantly being overqeight amounts to misconduct - we should sack him.
The guy is an embarassment. He's been fat since the first game of the season Imagine he's on big wages as well. Surel constantly being overqeight amounts to misconduct - we should sack him. gobias industries
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