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Greer dismissal was 'a little bit unlucky'

The Argus: Gordon Greer is sent off Gordon Greer is sent off

Gordon Greer’s red card against Reading has been described as “a little bit unlucky”.

Former Albion striker and current BBC pundit Steve Claridge told TV viewers last night he had sympathy with the defender.

Greer was shown a second yellow card in yesterday’s 1-1 draw with Reading after a foul on Adam Le Fondre.

The incident was examined on The Football League Show.

Claridge said the red card let Reading back into the game.

He added: “I think he (Greer) is a little bit unlucky.

“The obstruction comes about because he tries to make a challenge.

“He doesn’t step across without trying to go for the ball.

“As Le Fondre knocks the ball past him he is actually trying to make a challenge, probably with his wrong foot.”

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6:57am Sun 9 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player.
Under today's rules, it's a yellow.
He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player. Under today's rules, it's a yellow. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -7

6:59am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

GG was flat footed, so could not move,
Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders?
GG was flat footed, so could not move, Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders? mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

7:21am Sun 9 Mar 14

namgo49 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
GG was flat footed, so could not move,
Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders?
Because them's the rules. Ask Arsene Wenger if he was happy about Jack Wilshire playing a stupid friendly!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: GG was flat footed, so could not move, Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders?[/p][/quote]Because them's the rules. Ask Arsene Wenger if he was happy about Jack Wilshire playing a stupid friendly!! namgo49
  • Score: 6

7:37am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

namgo49 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
GG was flat footed, so could not move,
Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders?
Because them's the rules. Ask Arsene Wenger if he was happy about Jack Wilshire playing a stupid friendly!!
He should have played 60 minutes, as most clubs arrange that for friendly games...
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: GG was flat footed, so could not move, Question is why did he play 90 minutes in a friendly? When we only have 3 central defenders?[/p][/quote]Because them's the rules. Ask Arsene Wenger if he was happy about Jack Wilshire playing a stupid friendly!![/p][/quote]He should have played 60 minutes, as most clubs arrange that for friendly games... mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

7:44am Sun 9 Mar 14

Far gull says...

Was an accident waiting to happen , Greer 33 ,two games in 4 days . This is one decision 90% of Albion fans could have got right and left Greer on the bench yesterday.
I don't know what others feel ,but yesterday was just the sort of game I would have loved Adam El abd to still have been at the club. His experience full commitment etc could have allowed Greer to have sat it out,without weakling the team which sadly Dunk does (as Hull games proved).
Am more cross this morning with management decisions than I was yesterday so sleeping on it has not helped :-)
Was an accident waiting to happen , Greer 33 ,two games in 4 days . This is one decision 90% of Albion fans could have got right and left Greer on the bench yesterday. I don't know what others feel ,but yesterday was just the sort of game I would have loved Adam El abd to still have been at the club. His experience full commitment etc could have allowed Greer to have sat it out,without weakling the team which sadly Dunk does (as Hull games proved). Am more cross this morning with management decisions than I was yesterday so sleeping on it has not helped :-) Far gull
  • Score: -18

7:55am Sun 9 Mar 14

JFC1 says...

Hi Far Gull- Understand you fully. Why did Dunk not start ?? Why no width ?? Confused !
Hi Far Gull- Understand you fully. Why did Dunk not start ?? Why no width ?? Confused ! JFC1
  • Score: 2

8:02am Sun 9 Mar 14

elljam says...

Far gull wrote:
Was an accident waiting to happen , Greer 33 ,two games in 4 days . This is one decision 90% of Albion fans could have got right and left Greer on the bench yesterday.
I don't know what others feel ,but yesterday was just the sort of game I would have loved Adam El abd to still have been at the club. His experience full commitment etc could have allowed Greer to have sat it out,without weakling the team which sadly Dunk does (as Hull games proved).
Am more cross this morning with management decisions than I was yesterday so sleeping on it has not helped :-)
Did you watch the first Hull game ? Dunk was our best player.
El Abd while being a whole-hearted player did not possess the class/ability to play for a top-end Championship side.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Was an accident waiting to happen , Greer 33 ,two games in 4 days . This is one decision 90% of Albion fans could have got right and left Greer on the bench yesterday. I don't know what others feel ,but yesterday was just the sort of game I would have loved Adam El abd to still have been at the club. His experience full commitment etc could have allowed Greer to have sat it out,without weakling the team which sadly Dunk does (as Hull games proved). Am more cross this morning with management decisions than I was yesterday so sleeping on it has not helped :-)[/p][/quote]Did you watch the first Hull game ? Dunk was our best player. El Abd while being a whole-hearted player did not possess the class/ability to play for a top-end Championship side. elljam
  • Score: 18

8:02am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

JFC1 wrote:
Hi Far Gull- Understand you fully. Why did Dunk not start ?? Why no width ?? Confused !
Negative , 35 goals this season?
[quote][p][bold]JFC1[/bold] wrote: Hi Far Gull- Understand you fully. Why did Dunk not start ?? Why no width ?? Confused ![/p][/quote]Negative , 35 goals this season? mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

8:17am Sun 9 Mar 14

impose our game gull says...

When GG or Bruno (same with Calderon or Dunk if they start the match) are booked in the first half, especially if the opposition have nippy wingers/ attackers, best we substitute them at half time as they can both be inept and drawn in on occasion.

Bruno had some very good moments but was well beaten by his man/ the general move on at least 5 occasions today.

We played broadly not that well in the first half, slow, imposed little and all a little lethargic for such a big match at home. Deliveries across from the wings were broadly poor. Starting without Buckley (who again looked pretty decent once on), Lua Lua (again) and March - yet having all 3 on the bench in a home match against a team we squashed in the first half in Jan in the Cup at home seems odd and uninspiring.


We came out after half time no well either and a better finish would have seen a Reading goal. 2 shots for us I believe in the first half, neither on target. Kusczcak a well deserved MoM and stood up and made large brilliantly for the one on one.

Ulloa played well, worked hard and Lingard looked as if could come very well and will make some positive difference in matches to come.

Restricting Reading to one point instead of 3 in light of how the other results went today ended up being excellent for us!!

Roll on Tuesday but please can we go for it a little more!!


UTA!!
When GG or Bruno (same with Calderon or Dunk if they start the match) are booked in the first half, especially if the opposition have nippy wingers/ attackers, best we substitute them at half time as they can both be inept and drawn in on occasion. Bruno had some very good moments but was well beaten by his man/ the general move on at least 5 occasions today. We played broadly not that well in the first half, slow, imposed little and all a little lethargic for such a big match at home. Deliveries across from the wings were broadly poor. Starting without Buckley (who again looked pretty decent once on), Lua Lua (again) and March - yet having all 3 on the bench in a home match against a team we squashed in the first half in Jan in the Cup at home seems odd and uninspiring. We came out after half time no well either and a better finish would have seen a Reading goal. 2 shots for us I believe in the first half, neither on target. Kusczcak a well deserved MoM and stood up and made large brilliantly for the one on one. Ulloa played well, worked hard and Lingard looked as if could come very well and will make some positive difference in matches to come. Restricting Reading to one point instead of 3 in light of how the other results went today ended up being excellent for us!! Roll on Tuesday but please can we go for it a little more!! UTA!! impose our game gull
  • Score: 4

8:29am Sun 9 Mar 14

Conelli98 says...

Heard a rumour Brighton are hopeful of landing Palace captain Paddy McCarthy until end of season as Pullis wants him to have some game time after coming back from injury!
Heard a rumour Brighton are hopeful of landing Palace captain Paddy McCarthy until end of season as Pullis wants him to have some game time after coming back from injury! Conelli98
  • Score: -8

8:33am Sun 9 Mar 14

saltdeanres says...

At least three things in the modern game that need to be addressed.
1 - Pretending to be fouled and diving in order to gain a free kick when on the replay the player was never touched.
2 - The holding of ones head or face after a tackle and rolling around on the ground as if severely injured when in fact on the replay no contact of that sort ever occurred.
3 - and in the case of Gordan Greer yesterday where the opposing team bombard the ref into making a decision he wasn't going to make.
All these can completely alter the game in an unsporting manner and make it very frustrating to watch.
Now let's beat QPR on Tuesday,
At least three things in the modern game that need to be addressed. 1 - Pretending to be fouled and diving in order to gain a free kick when on the replay the player was never touched. 2 - The holding of ones head or face after a tackle and rolling around on the ground as if severely injured when in fact on the replay no contact of that sort ever occurred. 3 - and in the case of Gordan Greer yesterday where the opposing team bombard the ref into making a decision he wasn't going to make. All these can completely alter the game in an unsporting manner and make it very frustrating to watch. Now let's beat QPR on Tuesday, saltdeanres
  • Score: 29

8:38am Sun 9 Mar 14

Reading fan in Brighton says...

Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls! Reading fan in Brighton
  • Score: -42

8:44am Sun 9 Mar 14

Far gull says...

impose our game gull wrote:
When GG or Bruno (same with Calderon or Dunk if they start the match) are booked in the first half, especially if the opposition have nippy wingers/ attackers, best we substitute them at half time as they can both be inept and drawn in on occasion.

Bruno had some very good moments but was well beaten by his man/ the general move on at least 5 occasions today.

We played broadly not that well in the first half, slow, imposed little and all a little lethargic for such a big match at home. Deliveries across from the wings were broadly poor. Starting without Buckley (who again looked pretty decent once on), Lua Lua (again) and March - yet having all 3 on the bench in a home match against a team we squashed in the first half in Jan in the Cup at home seems odd and uninspiring.


We came out after half time no well either and a better finish would have seen a Reading goal. 2 shots for us I believe in the first half, neither on target. Kusczcak a well deserved MoM and stood up and made large brilliantly for the one on one.

Ulloa played well, worked hard and Lingard looked as if could come very well and will make some positive difference in matches to come.

Restricting Reading to one point instead of 3 in light of how the other results went today ended up being excellent for us!!

Roll on Tuesday but please can we go for it a little more!!


UTA!!
Feel the precedent for how we apply ourselves and our game was v Wigan and earlier in season against Leicester at home ,what I can't understand is why we struggle ( management?) to emulate the application and pressing of the opposition.
I have felt we apart from the above mentioned games never come out ' fired up'? Does this mirror our boss's demeanour ?
Good to see Dunk family out in force this morning,yes he did ok in first game against Hull but it takes more than one game to show what is required at this level and quite frankly in the replay he was very poor.
Good to see Craig Noone on fire this morning in motd highlights.glad (Not)he was sold not Lualua or Buckley when he was part of our three winger trimuriate . To think he spent hours on the bench for us too. ?
[quote][p][bold]impose our game gull[/bold] wrote: When GG or Bruno (same with Calderon or Dunk if they start the match) are booked in the first half, especially if the opposition have nippy wingers/ attackers, best we substitute them at half time as they can both be inept and drawn in on occasion. Bruno had some very good moments but was well beaten by his man/ the general move on at least 5 occasions today. We played broadly not that well in the first half, slow, imposed little and all a little lethargic for such a big match at home. Deliveries across from the wings were broadly poor. Starting without Buckley (who again looked pretty decent once on), Lua Lua (again) and March - yet having all 3 on the bench in a home match against a team we squashed in the first half in Jan in the Cup at home seems odd and uninspiring. We came out after half time no well either and a better finish would have seen a Reading goal. 2 shots for us I believe in the first half, neither on target. Kusczcak a well deserved MoM and stood up and made large brilliantly for the one on one. Ulloa played well, worked hard and Lingard looked as if could come very well and will make some positive difference in matches to come. Restricting Reading to one point instead of 3 in light of how the other results went today ended up being excellent for us!! Roll on Tuesday but please can we go for it a little more!! UTA!![/p][/quote]Feel the precedent for how we apply ourselves and our game was v Wigan and earlier in season against Leicester at home ,what I can't understand is why we struggle ( management?) to emulate the application and pressing of the opposition. I have felt we apart from the above mentioned games never come out ' fired up'? Does this mirror our boss's demeanour ? Good to see Dunk family out in force this morning,yes he did ok in first game against Hull but it takes more than one game to show what is required at this level and quite frankly in the replay he was very poor. Good to see Craig Noone on fire this morning in motd highlights.glad (Not)he was sold not Lualua or Buckley when he was part of our three winger trimuriate . To think he spent hours on the bench for us too. ? Far gull
  • Score: 0

8:52am Sun 9 Mar 14

Brighton90 says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
The foul on le fondre was not a red card. There was an Albion player in between him and the goal and it was not an obvious goal scoring opportunity which means it was a yellow not a red. I have never seen a challenge like greers first one be given a red card. However he should have been sent for the second challenge.

Also you mention your 27 shots OFF target, but our one shot on. Be fair and actually mention you only had 5 shots on target compared to our one shot on.

Yes we were lucky and I was thrilled to get a point after that, but tbh you should not be proud of your teams achievements of the last two games. Not being able to beat two teams with men sent off and scoring a really pathetic own goal at the Amex.
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]The foul on le fondre was not a red card. There was an Albion player in between him and the goal and it was not an obvious goal scoring opportunity which means it was a yellow not a red. I have never seen a challenge like greers first one be given a red card. However he should have been sent for the second challenge. Also you mention your 27 shots OFF target, but our one shot on. Be fair and actually mention you only had 5 shots on target compared to our one shot on. Yes we were lucky and I was thrilled to get a point after that, but tbh you should not be proud of your teams achievements of the last two games. Not being able to beat two teams with men sent off and scoring a really pathetic own goal at the Amex. Brighton90
  • Score: 12

9:03am Sun 9 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
I'm not going to defend Greer's two yellows, (IMO they were both justified) or say we should have won,(IMO from the highlights I've seen, we shouldn't)
but the clue's clearly in your name.
"blatant"? "pre-meditated"? "7-1"?
As they say on Twitter: #blinkered
Most people on here have the decency to hold opinions and discuss them, rather than try and shout the loudest in the classroom.
Now, if you'd like to start again.......
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]I'm not going to defend Greer's two yellows, (IMO they were both justified) or say we should have won,(IMO from the highlights I've seen, we shouldn't) but the clue's clearly in your name. "blatant"? "pre-meditated"? "7-1"? As they say on Twitter: #blinkered Most people on here have the decency to hold opinions and discuss them, rather than try and shout the loudest in the classroom. Now, if you'd like to start again....... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 4

9:03am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

We scored 69 goals last year, and had Leo from Xmas , we have scored 35 to date, we had three wingers on bench, why not start with Buckley! Weak management ... We are too scared of letting in goals, where was Dave 2?
This month has tricky games ... Let's see some tactical nouse!
We scored 69 goals last year, and had Leo from Xmas , we have scored 35 to date, we had three wingers on bench, why not start with Buckley! Weak management ... We are too scared of letting in goals, where was Dave 2? This month has tricky games ... Let's see some tactical nouse! mark by the sea
  • Score: 8

9:26am Sun 9 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

saltdeanres wrote:
At least three things in the modern game that need to be addressed.
1 - Pretending to be fouled and diving in order to gain a free kick when on the replay the player was never touched.
2 - The holding of ones head or face after a tackle and rolling around on the ground as if severely injured when in fact on the replay no contact of that sort ever occurred.
3 - and in the case of Gordan Greer yesterday where the opposing team bombard the ref into making a decision he wasn't going to make.
All these can completely alter the game in an unsporting manner and make it very frustrating to watch.
Now let's beat QPR on Tuesday,
This.
[quote][p][bold]saltdeanres[/bold] wrote: At least three things in the modern game that need to be addressed. 1 - Pretending to be fouled and diving in order to gain a free kick when on the replay the player was never touched. 2 - The holding of ones head or face after a tackle and rolling around on the ground as if severely injured when in fact on the replay no contact of that sort ever occurred. 3 - and in the case of Gordan Greer yesterday where the opposing team bombard the ref into making a decision he wasn't going to make. All these can completely alter the game in an unsporting manner and make it very frustrating to watch. Now let's beat QPR on Tuesday,[/p][/quote]This. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

9:27am Sun 9 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it.
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 6

9:35am Sun 9 Mar 14

Lamby63 says...

Every time Bruno plays we look dis jointed as he has not got a defensive bone in his body , h exposes the centre backs due to his lack of awareness of where he is on the pitch . Calderon gives us a better shape as a team
Every time Bruno plays we look dis jointed as he has not got a defensive bone in his body , h exposes the centre backs due to his lack of awareness of where he is on the pitch . Calderon gives us a better shape as a team Lamby63
  • Score: -1

9:42am Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Lamby63 wrote:
Every time Bruno plays we look dis jointed as he has not got a defensive bone in his body , h exposes the centre backs due to his lack of awareness of where he is on the pitch . Calderon gives us a better shape as a team
Calderon will be on the bench for the QPR game as we don't have any cover for our centre back positions, are we really chasing promotion? With a thin squad?
[quote][p][bold]Lamby63[/bold] wrote: Every time Bruno plays we look dis jointed as he has not got a defensive bone in his body , h exposes the centre backs due to his lack of awareness of where he is on the pitch . Calderon gives us a better shape as a team[/p][/quote]Calderon will be on the bench for the QPR game as we don't have any cover for our centre back positions, are we really chasing promotion? With a thin squad? mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

9:43am Sun 9 Mar 14

Alfie T says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it.
Play off chances, hour and a half away,1043 fans,utterly pathetic away support.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it.[/p][/quote]Play off chances, hour and a half away,1043 fans,utterly pathetic away support. Alfie T
  • Score: 12

10:40am Sun 9 Mar 14

To baldly go says...

Two poor performances have got us 4 points so far in March, not to bad but as others have commented we only play well when chasing the game.
An early goal yesterday and we sat back and defended, we do it well but it's very frustrating and once Greer was sent off the pressure was on.
Jfc, Lopez and Andrews in midfield was to negative and we were under pressure from the off
Buckley, LuaLua, March and Obika on the bench? why, we had no width, no pace and it wasn't until Buckley came on that we started to cause them problems, even with only 10 men on the pitch, if the above are not match fit give them 45 minutes each and keep the opposition defence occupied.
Let's reverse the trend Tuesday evening and go for it from the start, we gained ground surprisingly yesterday and a win against QPR will put us right back in the running.
Two poor performances have got us 4 points so far in March, not to bad but as others have commented we only play well when chasing the game. An early goal yesterday and we sat back and defended, we do it well but it's very frustrating and once Greer was sent off the pressure was on. Jfc, Lopez and Andrews in midfield was to negative and we were under pressure from the off Buckley, LuaLua, March and Obika on the bench? why, we had no width, no pace and it wasn't until Buckley came on that we started to cause them problems, even with only 10 men on the pitch, if the above are not match fit give them 45 minutes each and keep the opposition defence occupied. Let's reverse the trend Tuesday evening and go for it from the start, we gained ground surprisingly yesterday and a win against QPR will put us right back in the running. To baldly go
  • Score: 20

10:41am Sun 9 Mar 14

championshipgull says...

Taking into consideration all the bits of bad luck we have had particularly with injuries, I think Oscar has done a good job to get us where we are. The main thing was not to let a cheating Adkins side get to far ahead. Don’t know how the QPR game is going to span out but all those games around April are going to be the real test. My hope is we keep the brilliant atmosphere and support for the team going like yesterday.
Taking into consideration all the bits of bad luck we have had particularly with injuries, I think Oscar has done a good job to get us where we are. The main thing was not to let a cheating Adkins side get to far ahead. Don’t know how the QPR game is going to span out but all those games around April are going to be the real test. My hope is we keep the brilliant atmosphere and support for the team going like yesterday. championshipgull
  • Score: 9

10:54am Sun 9 Mar 14

Lord Hamilton says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
Reading are cheats. Better to be lucky in life then good. Now jog on son!!!
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]Reading are cheats. Better to be lucky in life then good. Now jog on son!!! Lord Hamilton
  • Score: 9

11:22am Sun 9 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

I hate to say this but Greer's bookings were both self inflicted !, 1st one he gave the ball away with a poor pass (always happens when he tries to play the ball forward), then he was out of position and had to race back but was the wrong side of the Reading player. The second one was brought about by his inability to kick the ball with his left foot, !!!! (as per Watford "goal" that wasn't), if he had attacked the ball yesterday with his left foot instead of going with his right foot he would have made a clean tackle. (International quality.no chance).
I hate to say this but Greer's bookings were both self inflicted !, 1st one he gave the ball away with a poor pass (always happens when he tries to play the ball forward), then he was out of position and had to race back but was the wrong side of the Reading player. The second one was brought about by his inability to kick the ball with his left foot, !!!! (as per Watford "goal" that wasn't), if he had attacked the ball yesterday with his left foot instead of going with his right foot he would have made a clean tackle. (International quality.no chance). Steveg1958
  • Score: -9

12:04pm Sun 9 Mar 14

tinker111 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player.
Under today's rules, it's a yellow.
Well said both yellows were correct ref at least got that rite for me Greer is slow and was caught out by a fast player.
As to the above poll think it must be taken by BLINKERED FAN'S WHO DONT KNOW much about football and todays rules
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player. Under today's rules, it's a yellow.[/p][/quote]Well said both yellows were correct ref at least got that rite for me Greer is slow and was caught out by a fast player. As to the above poll think it must be taken by BLINKERED FAN'S WHO DONT KNOW much about football and todays rules tinker111
  • Score: -7

12:20pm Sun 9 Mar 14

B-hove says...

On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve.

Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot.

Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday.

It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book.
On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve. Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot. Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday. It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book. B-hove
  • Score: 6

12:33pm Sun 9 Mar 14

The Phantom says...

No idea why this is a story on here - who cares what Claridge says? To comment that "he was a little bit unlucky" is not worth reporting. It was a straight forward decision for the referee to make on both yellow cards however much he may have been influcenced by the Reading players. Also TK definitely not at fault for the Reading goal. The shot from Drenthe was arrowed into the corner with real venom - gets on my nerves when reporters always comments when a keeper is "beaten at his near post" implying that the keeper is always at fault when this happens. Simply not the case in this instance.
No idea why this is a story on here - who cares what Claridge says? To comment that "he was a little bit unlucky" is not worth reporting. It was a straight forward decision for the referee to make on both yellow cards however much he may have been influcenced by the Reading players. Also TK definitely not at fault for the Reading goal. The shot from Drenthe was arrowed into the corner with real venom - gets on my nerves when reporters always comments when a keeper is "beaten at his near post" implying that the keeper is always at fault when this happens. Simply not the case in this instance. The Phantom
  • Score: 1

1:15pm Sun 9 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

B-hove wrote:
On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve.

Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot.

Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday.

It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book.
It was a poor game, the Albion did nothing really, we have scored 35 goals this season, that's never going to get us out of this division, as for him starting with 3 wingers on the bench ? Play Buckley for a hour then either swap for lua lua or a defensive player if ahead.
We don't look like scoring to be honest, OG needs to look at his chess pieces and change tactics, not good enough at home week in week out.
[quote][p][bold]B-hove[/bold] wrote: On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve. Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot. Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday. It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book.[/p][/quote]It was a poor game, the Albion did nothing really, we have scored 35 goals this season, that's never going to get us out of this division, as for him starting with 3 wingers on the bench ? Play Buckley for a hour then either swap for lua lua or a defensive player if ahead. We don't look like scoring to be honest, OG needs to look at his chess pieces and change tactics, not good enough at home week in week out. mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Beethoven says...

In my my opinion, the bookings were VERY soft.....especially the second, knowing that it would mean dismissal. A free kick only, as I saw it.

I agree with The Phantom about Reading's goal, it was well taken - if only we could have done the same????
In my my opinion, the bookings were VERY soft.....especially the second, knowing that it would mean dismissal. A free kick only, as I saw it. I agree with The Phantom about Reading's goal, it was well taken - if only we could have done the same???? Beethoven
  • Score: 6

1:50pm Sun 9 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

4 points from 6 is a foundation to build on for this crucial month, we need to make it 7 points come Tuesday. Greer getting sent off may have been right, I don't know, didn't see any of it but it's done now, he is out for one match.

Looking at the team that Oscar sent our yesterday it begged for the likes of a Wayne Bridge, a defender who could get down the line and be a provider, IMHO we don't have the required pace on either side of our back four to make this happen. With both Andrews and Ince playing in midfield you would think that there was enough cover on the park to allow Ward and Bruno to push up so I would ask those that were at the game, were there any signs of this happening?
4 points from 6 is a foundation to build on for this crucial month, we need to make it 7 points come Tuesday. Greer getting sent off may have been right, I don't know, didn't see any of it but it's done now, he is out for one match. Looking at the team that Oscar sent our yesterday it begged for the likes of a Wayne Bridge, a defender who could get down the line and be a provider, IMHO we don't have the required pace on either side of our back four to make this happen. With both Andrews and Ince playing in midfield you would think that there was enough cover on the park to allow Ward and Bruno to push up so I would ask those that were at the game, were there any signs of this happening? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Far gull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
4 points from 6 is a foundation to build on for this crucial month, we need to make it 7 points come Tuesday. Greer getting sent off may have been right, I don't know, didn't see any of it but it's done now, he is out for one match.

Looking at the team that Oscar sent our yesterday it begged for the likes of a Wayne Bridge, a defender who could get down the line and be a provider, IMHO we don't have the required pace on either side of our back four to make this happen. With both Andrews and Ince playing in midfield you would think that there was enough cover on the park to allow Ward and Bruno to push up so I would ask those that were at the game, were there any signs of this happening?
There was good forward play again from Bruno first half but to be honest second half was damage limitation. That said we should have made more of first half starting with at least one of our three wingers even if they had only done 20 mins each. Last year we played two holding midfielders in Bridcutt and Hammond most of the season ,the main difference has been Bruno not himself until last three games and ,good as wad has been he is no Bridge ,not that Reading have seen much of him ,we saw the best anyone has for 6-7 years .
Seeing us live Vegas has been painful for most of the season our league position flatters us. Goals for column is the give away . Win against QPR and we are still in it ,who knows funny old game.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: 4 points from 6 is a foundation to build on for this crucial month, we need to make it 7 points come Tuesday. Greer getting sent off may have been right, I don't know, didn't see any of it but it's done now, he is out for one match. Looking at the team that Oscar sent our yesterday it begged for the likes of a Wayne Bridge, a defender who could get down the line and be a provider, IMHO we don't have the required pace on either side of our back four to make this happen. With both Andrews and Ince playing in midfield you would think that there was enough cover on the park to allow Ward and Bruno to push up so I would ask those that were at the game, were there any signs of this happening?[/p][/quote]There was good forward play again from Bruno first half but to be honest second half was damage limitation. That said we should have made more of first half starting with at least one of our three wingers even if they had only done 20 mins each. Last year we played two holding midfielders in Bridcutt and Hammond most of the season ,the main difference has been Bruno not himself until last three games and ,good as wad has been he is no Bridge ,not that Reading have seen much of him ,we saw the best anyone has for 6-7 years . Seeing us live Vegas has been painful for most of the season our league position flatters us. Goals for column is the give away . Win against QPR and we are still in it ,who knows funny old game. Far gull
  • Score: 1

8:14am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
And I'm brainless am I? Looks like your comment has been branded as that instead. Oh dear!

Reading, in your VERY humble opinion, how many opposition players will you need to con the ref into sending off in your next game to enable you to scrape the 3 points? 10 and 8 have proved unlucky numbers so far.
[quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]And I'm brainless am I? Looks like your comment has been branded as that instead. Oh dear! Reading, in your VERY humble opinion, how many opposition players will you need to con the ref into sending off in your next game to enable you to scrape the 3 points? 10 and 8 have proved unlucky numbers so far. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

8:17am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Alfie T wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
Reading fan in Brighton wrote:
Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls!
No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it.
Play off chances, hour and a half away,1043 fans,utterly pathetic away support.
Couldn't agree more. They were as quiet as church mice as usual too.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reading fan in Brighton[/bold] wrote: Should have been sent off in the first half for his blatant, pre-meditated foul on Le Fondre who would have been in on goal. Claridge talking out of his backside as usual, Reading totally dominated the game before and after the sending off. 27 attempts at goal for an away side, Brighton 1 shot on target, another day could have been 7-1! Lucky, lucky seagulls![/p][/quote]No. Your previous contributions already discredit you. This confirms it.[/p][/quote]Play off chances, hour and a half away,1043 fans,utterly pathetic away support.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. They were as quiet as church mice as usual too. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

8:21am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

tinker111 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player.
Under today's rules, it's a yellow.
Well said both yellows were correct ref at least got that rite for me Greer is slow and was caught out by a fast player.
As to the above poll think it must be taken by BLINKERED FAN'S WHO DONT KNOW much about football and todays rules
Aha! So you voted in that minority along with Reading Fan then, Tinker? Thought so. Tbh I disagree with nearly everything you type.
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: He made a genuine attempt to get the ball but he missed it and, as a result, took out the player. Under today's rules, it's a yellow.[/p][/quote]Well said both yellows were correct ref at least got that rite for me Greer is slow and was caught out by a fast player. As to the above poll think it must be taken by BLINKERED FAN'S WHO DONT KNOW much about football and todays rules[/p][/quote]Aha! So you voted in that minority along with Reading Fan then, Tinker? Thought so. Tbh I disagree with nearly everything you type. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

8:24am Tue 11 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

B-hove wrote:
On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve.

Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot.

Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday.

It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book.
Superb post. Reading's players (Le Flouncer and Royston Lazy in particular) were a sickening disgrace. So was Adkins but what's new there?!
[quote][p][bold]B-hove[/bold] wrote: On a yellow so early in the game, and with an inept referee, Gordon Greer was always going to be vulnerable to a second booking. OG should have made the substitution at half-time. The detestable Adkins doesn’t make such mistakes – he knows his referees and when to take off vulnerable players. OG is still naïve. Questions have to be asked about lower league refereeing. To let so many dubious challenges go, and then issue a caution for nearly 1 in 2 fouls is poor, to say the least. How much influence should managers and players exert on the decisions referees make? Yesterday, I suggest, the answer was: a lot. Questions also need to be asked about the way Reading (players and manager) behaved whenever they lost the ball yesterday. It seemed to me that a potentially good game yesterday was ruined by a weak referee and an opposition who are adept at every underhand trick in the book.[/p][/quote]Superb post. Reading's players (Le Flouncer and Royston Lazy in particular) were a sickening disgrace. So was Adkins but what's new there?! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

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