Talking Point: Give 'Spanish Dave' a break

David Lopez

David Lopez

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

First it was Ashley Barnes.

Now that Barnes has gone to Burnley it is David Lopez.

The Spanish midfielder deserves a break from his Amex detractors.

There are quite a few of them, it seems, among the Albion fanbase.

It is noticeable with David, just as it used to be with Barnes. If he misplaces a pass, underhits or overhits a cross, it is seized upon.

Other crowd favourites escape such unforgiving scrutiny when they make an error.

I am not quite sure why 'Spanish Dave', who let's not forget played and scored in La Liga for Athletic Bilbao, has become so audibly disliked.

True, his form has not been as good or as influential as it was last season, but he has often been used as an unnatural right-winger.

Also, he is not the type of character you might expect to attract flak in quite the same way as the spikey Barnes.

David could still have an important role in Albion's season, particularly as he is their reliable penalty taker.

Who knows? He might step up at Wembley in May to take a spot-kick to send the Seagulls into the Premier League.

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1:08pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SMF20 says...

What a strange thread for the argus to post.

I don't understand this at all.
What a strange thread for the argus to post. I don't understand this at all. SMF20
  • Score: 16

1:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I agree it is a strange thread.
However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play.
So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we?
I agree it is a strange thread. However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play. So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we? Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 51

1:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

gazzamagoo says...

He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.
He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season. gazzamagoo
  • Score: -8

1:23pm Thu 13 Mar 14

heathgate says...

He is out of form compared to last year, but everyone knows he has the skill and presence, I think with Barnes it was more glaringly obvious that it took 10 chances to get one on target, and ten on target to get one goal.

In my area in WSU, I dont hear anybody groaning about SD in the same way as Barnes, some frustration at his loss of form yes. There is more angst being expressed about JFC at the moment, not because he hasnt any skill, but mainly because there is a feeling he is too easily disposessed at this level, maybe the Championship is a step too far for him...... at the moment.
He is out of form compared to last year, but everyone knows he has the skill and presence, I think with Barnes it was more glaringly obvious that it took 10 chances to get one on target, and ten on target to get one goal. In my area in WSU, I dont hear anybody groaning about SD in the same way as Barnes, some frustration at his loss of form yes. There is more angst being expressed about JFC at the moment, not because he hasnt any skill, but mainly because there is a feeling he is too easily disposessed at this level, maybe the Championship is a step too far for him...... at the moment. heathgate
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Dorset Seagull says...

He can't help a loss of form, but there's no excuse for consistently bottling a 50:50 challenge!
He can't help a loss of form, but there's no excuse for consistently bottling a 50:50 challenge! Dorset Seagull
  • Score: 7

1:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hot and cold, that's the problem. If you have a run of consistently good performances you will be forgiven the odd wayward pass or over hit cross, blow hot and cold and those minor errors get amplified. I would like to see us get promoted and see what David can do at the top flight, but sadly I think his inconsistency would let him down, the top level is unforgiving.
At this time of the year results are everything, all the lads will come under pressure from the fans, including Ulloa, just wait for Dunk to make an error and see how the fans react. JFC and Bruno have both had their detractors, but both have also seen praise heaped upon them. David can win the fans back, and not all are against him, he just needs to go out there and consistently do what he does best, make the plays for others to score from, and don't miss a penalty should one come his way.

I think Mr. Naylor is doing a little pot stirring with this thread, must be a quiet news day.
Hot and cold, that's the problem. If you have a run of consistently good performances you will be forgiven the odd wayward pass or over hit cross, blow hot and cold and those minor errors get amplified. I would like to see us get promoted and see what David can do at the top flight, but sadly I think his inconsistency would let him down, the top level is unforgiving. At this time of the year results are everything, all the lads will come under pressure from the fans, including Ulloa, just wait for Dunk to make an error and see how the fans react. JFC and Bruno have both had their detractors, but both have also seen praise heaped upon them. David can win the fans back, and not all are against him, he just needs to go out there and consistently do what he does best, make the plays for others to score from, and don't miss a penalty should one come his way. I think Mr. Naylor is doing a little pot stirring with this thread, must be a quiet news day. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

1:55pm Thu 13 Mar 14

heathgate says...

Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.
Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on. heathgate
  • Score: -18

1:58pm Thu 13 Mar 14

onlyme says...

gazzamagoo wrote:
He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.
I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play!

so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense
[quote][p][bold]gazzamagoo[/bold] wrote: He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.[/p][/quote]I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play! so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense onlyme
  • Score: 21

2:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

heathgate says...

onlyme wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote: He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.
I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play! so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense
Doesnt that just 'OUT' gazzamagoo as a fraud and a trouble maker,....... I hadnt noticed that faux pa on his part,... well spotted onlyme.
[quote][p][bold]onlyme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazzamagoo[/bold] wrote: He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.[/p][/quote]I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play! so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense[/p][/quote]Doesnt that just 'OUT' gazzamagoo as a fraud and a trouble maker,....... I hadnt noticed that faux pa on his part,... well spotted onlyme. heathgate
  • Score: 0

2:10pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Hovite says...

He is a 31 year old running on tired legs, so he is never going to be the pacey winger and he has done an ok job.

We should just be thankful that we have had him while others have been unable to play.

He has scored some important goals and has assisted in others. Although he can be frustrating sometimes, he does his best and doesn't deserve any abuse. He is a Brighton player and we have to get behind all of them especially at this point in the season.

If only these fans were as perfect as they expect Lopez to be.
He is a 31 year old running on tired legs, so he is never going to be the pacey winger and he has done an ok job. We should just be thankful that we have had him while others have been unable to play. He has scored some important goals and has assisted in others. Although he can be frustrating sometimes, he does his best and doesn't deserve any abuse. He is a Brighton player and we have to get behind all of them especially at this point in the season. If only these fans were as perfect as they expect Lopez to be. Hovite
  • Score: 44

2:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

twonk says...

I would never vocally insult any player in the blue and white but he has been awful lately. Tackle bottling is unforgivable.
I would never vocally insult any player in the blue and white but he has been awful lately. Tackle bottling is unforgivable. twonk
  • Score: -19

2:26pm Thu 13 Mar 14

MarkLawrenceOn45 says...

Genuinely two footed, beautiful crosser and free kick specialist, and can beat a defender.

How many of the countless journeyman midfielders we see amongst the oppo at the Amex have any of those skills? We have Buckers, Kaz, Solly March and Spanish, who only lacks pace.

Dave is inconsistent, sure - but it's the Championship.
Genuinely two footed, beautiful crosser and free kick specialist, and can beat a defender. How many of the countless journeyman midfielders we see amongst the oppo at the Amex have any of those skills? We have Buckers, Kaz, Solly March and Spanish, who only lacks pace. Dave is inconsistent, sure - but it's the Championship. MarkLawrenceOn45
  • Score: 25

2:35pm Thu 13 Mar 14

gazzamagoo says...

heathgate wrote:
onlyme wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote: He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.
I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play! so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense
Doesnt that just 'OUT' gazzamagoo as a fraud and a trouble maker,....... I hadnt noticed that faux pa on his part,... well spotted onlyme.
Apologies, I meant Saturday obviously. I'm not a trouble maker, I'm a north stand regular.
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]onlyme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gazzamagoo[/bold] wrote: He was getting a certain amount of abuse from 1 or 2 'supporters' with short memories Tuesday night. You can understand their frustrations a little because we've seen how good he can be and he's been poor by his standards most of this season.[/p][/quote]I was at the game on Tuesday - he didnt play! so to abuse a player who isnt playing doesnt make sense[/p][/quote]Doesnt that just 'OUT' gazzamagoo as a fraud and a trouble maker,....... I hadnt noticed that faux pa on his part,... well spotted onlyme.[/p][/quote]Apologies, I meant Saturday obviously. I'm not a trouble maker, I'm a north stand regular. gazzamagoo
  • Score: 8

2:37pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Grendel says...

Can't help thinking an article about it will only make matters worse.
Can't help thinking an article about it will only make matters worse. Grendel
  • Score: 11

2:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

championshipgull says...

MarkLawrenceOn45 wrote:
Genuinely two footed, beautiful crosser and free kick specialist, and can beat a defender.

How many of the countless journeyman midfielders we see amongst the oppo at the Amex have any of those skills? We have Buckers, Kaz, Solly March and Spanish, who only lacks pace.

Dave is inconsistent, sure - but it's the Championship.
Yep and add to that his good first touch, composure to retain the ball and his vision for a quality pass
[quote][p][bold]MarkLawrenceOn45[/bold] wrote: Genuinely two footed, beautiful crosser and free kick specialist, and can beat a defender. How many of the countless journeyman midfielders we see amongst the oppo at the Amex have any of those skills? We have Buckers, Kaz, Solly March and Spanish, who only lacks pace. Dave is inconsistent, sure - but it's the Championship.[/p][/quote]Yep and add to that his good first touch, composure to retain the ball and his vision for a quality pass championshipgull
  • Score: 22

2:48pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Gee Jay says...

Grendel wrote:
Can't help thinking an article about it will only make matters worse.
Too right Grendel.
This guy is still our best man for the dead ball situation.
Maybe the Argus should now have an article to praise the guy. The item concerning Stephen Ward last week and the supportive posts he got on here obvoiusly worked as he scored the second goal on Tuesday (and how many of those have we seenin the last few games).
Get behind the guy ( I always find home fans moan the most, the away crowd is far more positive).
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: Can't help thinking an article about it will only make matters worse.[/p][/quote]Too right Grendel. This guy is still our best man for the dead ball situation. Maybe the Argus should now have an article to praise the guy. The item concerning Stephen Ward last week and the supportive posts he got on here obvoiusly worked as he scored the second goal on Tuesday (and how many of those have we seenin the last few games). Get behind the guy ( I always find home fans moan the most, the away crowd is far more positive). Gee Jay
  • Score: 20

3:19pm Thu 13 Mar 14

jonwaller8508 says...

I think he could be a bit stronger in the tackle sometimes. Maybe needs to toughen up a little?
I think he could be a bit stronger in the tackle sometimes. Maybe needs to toughen up a little? jonwaller8508
  • Score: 3

3:24pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Baldseagull says...

heathgate wrote:
Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.
It's Naylor that's bleating, and back handedly inviting us to do the same.

Not many really moan about Dave or his loss of form as such, more that Oscar still picks him despite his loss of form. As Naylor says, "True, his form has not been as good or as influential as it was last season, but he has often been used as an unnatural right-winger."
Well I know we have a few injury problems but Kaz, Buckley, March and Orlandi can all do a better job than Dave has been doing on the wing, not been many games lately where none of those have been fit.
He does bottle a few challenges, a glaringly obvious one on Saturday but there is no one I would rather see step up for a spot kick.
I don't think anyone wants him to leave the club, just sit out a few games if he is not performing, or be the sub rather than the starter, all players have these patches, but Dave does seem to be having a protracted poor patch. He has had his moments in games where we have seen the old Dave but they are few and far between. I don't think Dave would disagree that he has not shown the form he did last season.

I don't know why we should not forget he played and scored for Bilbao in La Liga though, it is irrelevant to today, he would not get in any La Liga side on his current form.

No player escapes this scrutiny, the only players that get a bit of an easier ride for a run of poor form are those that compensate with 100% effort, bottling a challenge is a no no. Dave is not being picked on because they don't like his face, he needs to improve or sit out until he starts producing in training, that's all.

Naylor on the other hand is welcome to go and find another club and whine about their supporters, 2 or 3 times a season he has a whinge about fan reactions to this or that, as if we are the only club in the league that has fans who have opinions and get upset when we play badly, or lose, or sell this player, or don't buy that player. If we did not care we wouldn't read his crappy columns hoping for some insight.
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.[/p][/quote]It's Naylor that's bleating, and back handedly inviting us to do the same. Not many really moan about Dave or his loss of form as such, more that Oscar still picks him despite his loss of form. As Naylor says, "True, his form has not been as good or as influential as it was last season, but he has often been used as an unnatural right-winger." Well I know we have a few injury problems but Kaz, Buckley, March and Orlandi can all do a better job than Dave has been doing on the wing, not been many games lately where none of those have been fit. He does bottle a few challenges, a glaringly obvious one on Saturday but there is no one I would rather see step up for a spot kick. I don't think anyone wants him to leave the club, just sit out a few games if he is not performing, or be the sub rather than the starter, all players have these patches, but Dave does seem to be having a protracted poor patch. He has had his moments in games where we have seen the old Dave but they are few and far between. I don't think Dave would disagree that he has not shown the form he did last season. I don't know why we should not forget he played and scored for Bilbao in La Liga though, it is irrelevant to today, he would not get in any La Liga side on his current form. No player escapes this scrutiny, the only players that get a bit of an easier ride for a run of poor form are those that compensate with 100% effort, bottling a challenge is a no no. Dave is not being picked on because they don't like his face, he needs to improve or sit out until he starts producing in training, that's all. Naylor on the other hand is welcome to go and find another club and whine about their supporters, 2 or 3 times a season he has a whinge about fan reactions to this or that, as if we are the only club in the league that has fans who have opinions and get upset when we play badly, or lose, or sell this player, or don't buy that player. If we did not care we wouldn't read his crappy columns hoping for some insight. Baldseagull
  • Score: 5

3:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

slush789 says...

Ashley Barnes was utter rubbish though. Spanish Dave is just out of form.
Ashley Barnes was utter rubbish though. Spanish Dave is just out of form. slush789
  • Score: -12

3:31pm Thu 13 Mar 14

fairweathersupporter says...

On his day one of the best technical players we have, along with Orlandi. I think he bottled the 50-50 on Saturday against Reading. Bit of a hospital ball but after seeing all those tough tackling displays previously it was a bit of a surprise when he opted out (! ; )) More seriously, i think this all started with his dead ball deliveries which highlighted a marked difference in form from last season. I actually think he's been alright since the Leicester game where he was instrumental, not brilliant but alright. Which is pretty much what you could say about the team in general. He will come good again if played in his prefferred birth with Orlandi along side him but don't expect any 'bite yer legs' performances; which perhaps shows the mindset of those who would criticise. Spanish Dave is already a legend and will rise again.
On his day one of the best technical players we have, along with Orlandi. I think he bottled the 50-50 on Saturday against Reading. Bit of a hospital ball but after seeing all those tough tackling displays previously it was a bit of a surprise when he opted out (! ; )) More seriously, i think this all started with his dead ball deliveries which highlighted a marked difference in form from last season. I actually think he's been alright since the Leicester game where he was instrumental, not brilliant but alright. Which is pretty much what you could say about the team in general. He will come good again if played in his prefferred birth with Orlandi along side him but don't expect any 'bite yer legs' performances; which perhaps shows the mindset of those who would criticise. Spanish Dave is already a legend and will rise again. fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 8

3:46pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

SMF20 wrote:
What a strange thread for the argus to post.

I don't understand this at all.
It's surely not a strange post at all, it is a (short) opinion piece by naylor, in much the same vein as previous opinion pieces by him.

It is also fair comment - the fans seem to need a player to pick on, a scapegoat, and since Barnes went that role seems to have gone to David Lopez. Unfairly, in my estimation.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: What a strange thread for the argus to post. I don't understand this at all.[/p][/quote]It's surely not a strange post at all, it is a (short) opinion piece by naylor, in much the same vein as previous opinion pieces by him. It is also fair comment - the fans seem to need a player to pick on, a scapegoat, and since Barnes went that role seems to have gone to David Lopez. Unfairly, in my estimation. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

3:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

heathgate wrote:
Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.
I wouldn't have put it quite the same way, but I can't say I disagree with the sentiment.
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't have put it quite the same way, but I can't say I disagree with the sentiment. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

3:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Neville says...

Lopez was very good last season but this season he has been generally poor in most matches apart from the odd moment of class.
I understand he sometimes plays out of position but he is technically gifted but I think the thing the fans don't like is his bottling out of challenges both on the ground and in the air and this has been an unfortunate part of his game this season,in addition his free kicks and corners have also been generally poor. Spot kicks no problem excellent.
I also think he has been picked even when playing poorly and this annoys fans who think others deserve a chance.
He is an important squad member and hopefully will come good from now until the season end.
Lopez was very good last season but this season he has been generally poor in most matches apart from the odd moment of class. I understand he sometimes plays out of position but he is technically gifted but I think the thing the fans don't like is his bottling out of challenges both on the ground and in the air and this has been an unfortunate part of his game this season,in addition his free kicks and corners have also been generally poor. Spot kicks no problem excellent. I also think he has been picked even when playing poorly and this annoys fans who think others deserve a chance. He is an important squad member and hopefully will come good from now until the season end. Neville
  • Score: 3

3:54pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Beethoven says...

Are The Argus taking their cues from the vitriolic minority on North Stand Chat now?....Something of a pointless article.

However, Spanish Dave is undoubtedly a class player, even if he has not shown last seasons form so much this time.. He is still the man I would want to take a match winning free kick or penalty
Are The Argus taking their cues from the vitriolic minority on North Stand Chat now?....Something of a pointless article. However, Spanish Dave is undoubtedly a class player, even if he has not shown last seasons form so much this time.. He is still the man I would want to take a match winning free kick or penalty Beethoven
  • Score: 6

4:14pm Thu 13 Mar 14

graham w says...

Nothing wrong with spanish Dave, hes not the bravest , but hes a touch player , the side is better when both he, and orlandi and bruno play...much better than when andrews plays, I just do not rate him at all, he does a lot of pointing, but not a lot of tackling as a midfield player, we need TWO INCES....
Nothing wrong with spanish Dave, hes not the bravest , but hes a touch player , the side is better when both he, and orlandi and bruno play...much better than when andrews plays, I just do not rate him at all, he does a lot of pointing, but not a lot of tackling as a midfield player, we need TWO INCES.... graham w
  • Score: 5

4:39pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Major Bloodboil says...

Changing the subject slightly, I regret to report that Adam El-Abd is having a nightmare at Bristol City. There was I saying to my City supporter friend how good he had been for us and that he would be a real asset for City but he has been very poor indeed, being beaten time and time again for speed, giving away needless free kicks and culminating in him getting sent off at Peterborough after elbowing an opponent. The City fans are now calling him El-Bad and El-Bow! It's strange how someone can been a real asset for one team and yet can't fit in for another team. It's probably the formation that City play at the back that is the problem. The really odd thing is that City had Dunk on loan who they didn't play at all but they play Adam all the time. Dunk, of course has been having OK games for us recently (but not if you listen to you know who). It just goes to show how good Matthew Upson is at organising the defence.
Changing the subject slightly, I regret to report that Adam El-Abd is having a nightmare at Bristol City. There was I saying to my City supporter friend how good he had been for us and that he would be a real asset for City but he has been very poor indeed, being beaten time and time again for speed, giving away needless free kicks and culminating in him getting sent off at Peterborough after elbowing an opponent. The City fans are now calling him El-Bad and El-Bow! It's strange how someone can been a real asset for one team and yet can't fit in for another team. It's probably the formation that City play at the back that is the problem. The really odd thing is that City had Dunk on loan who they didn't play at all but they play Adam all the time. Dunk, of course has been having OK games for us recently (but not if you listen to you know who). It just goes to show how good Matthew Upson is at organising the defence. Major Bloodboil
  • Score: 2

5:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

thebigun says...

I haven't read any other posts but I would like to add that Daves passing,vision ,dead ball kicks cannot be faulted BUT his commitment to a tackle or challenging for a header are laughable,ONE example and only one there was a fifty fifty header when we played Reading he challenged for a header in the feotal? position and gracefully landed on the ground,looked around and Reading had nearly scored,Talented player no doubt but we need grafters not posers.We can still get in the play offs but play the players that on form and commited to the cause ,i.e Dunk could be our jewel in the crown ,forget Linguard?get Solly March on,GO for it we have nothing to lose
I haven't read any other posts but I would like to add that Daves passing,vision ,dead ball kicks cannot be faulted BUT his commitment to a tackle or challenging for a header are laughable,ONE example and only one there was a fifty fifty header when we played Reading he challenged for a header in the feotal? position and gracefully landed on the ground,looked around and Reading had nearly scored,Talented player no doubt but we need grafters not posers.We can still get in the play offs but play the players that on form and commited to the cause ,i.e Dunk could be our jewel in the crown ,forget Linguard?get Solly March on,GO for it we have nothing to lose thebigun
  • Score: -11

5:51pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

"we need grafters not posers"

And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier.
"we need grafters not posers" And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 10

5:53pm Thu 13 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Problem with the Amex crowd is most have been fed non league talent who give everything, elabd mayo hart Fraser to name a few, they become "legends " not based on ability but pure effort, the likes of Dave have touch and craft which sadly fans only moan about when passes don't come off,
You never hear people moan about march or lua lua, neither deliver on a regular basis..
Dave has his weakness which is throwing himself into a tackle, the rest is form... Very good player who has not has a regular position.
Problem with the Amex crowd is most have been fed non league talent who give everything, elabd mayo hart Fraser to name a few, they become "legends " not based on ability but pure effort, the likes of Dave have touch and craft which sadly fans only moan about when passes don't come off, You never hear people moan about march or lua lua, neither deliver on a regular basis.. Dave has his weakness which is throwing himself into a tackle, the rest is form... Very good player who has not has a regular position. mark by the sea
  • Score: 8

5:55pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Problem with the Amex crowd is most have been fed non league talent who give everything, elabd mayo hart Fraser to name a few, they become "legends " not based on ability but pure effort, the likes of Dave have touch and craft which sadly fans only moan about when passes don't come off,
You never hear people moan about march or lua lua, neither deliver on a regular basis..
Dave has his weakness which is throwing himself into a tackle, the rest is form... Very good player who has not has a regular position.
Given our ridiculous injury crisis I can forgive a player pulling out of a tackle against a beast every now and then, especially by one who looks so fragile! It's inexcusable for a defender, but not so much an attacking midfielder.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Problem with the Amex crowd is most have been fed non league talent who give everything, elabd mayo hart Fraser to name a few, they become "legends " not based on ability but pure effort, the likes of Dave have touch and craft which sadly fans only moan about when passes don't come off, You never hear people moan about march or lua lua, neither deliver on a regular basis.. Dave has his weakness which is throwing himself into a tackle, the rest is form... Very good player who has not has a regular position.[/p][/quote]Given our ridiculous injury crisis I can forgive a player pulling out of a tackle against a beast every now and then, especially by one who looks so fragile! It's inexcusable for a defender, but not so much an attacking midfielder. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

5:57pm Thu 13 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
"we need grafters not posers"

And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier.
Arnie we finally sing from the same place, glen noddles was not a regular for England, Tony currie , frank worthington who was our most skilful forward ever got a handful of caps.. You can see why we are 20 years behind Spain in developing talent.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: "we need grafters not posers" And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier.[/p][/quote]Arnie we finally sing from the same place, glen noddles was not a regular for England, Tony currie , frank worthington who was our most skilful forward ever got a handful of caps.. You can see why we are 20 years behind Spain in developing talent. mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

5:58pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I agree it is a strange thread.
However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play.
So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we?
Hear Hear
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I agree it is a strange thread. However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play. So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we?[/p][/quote]Hear Hear Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 3

7:04pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OldGull says...

I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me.
One in particular has slagged off
Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave.
He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match.
We have a few regulars on this site.
They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence.

I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe.
Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example.
I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help?
The only people it helps is the opposition.

Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs
UTA
I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me. One in particular has slagged off Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave. He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match. We have a few regulars on this site. They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence. I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe. Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example. I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help? The only people it helps is the opposition. Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs UTA OldGull
  • Score: 5

7:12pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Cos he is pony and trap, pure and simple
Cos he is pony and trap, pure and simple ringtone
  • Score: -8

7:14pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
"we need grafters not posers"

And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier.
Arnie we finally sing from the same place, glen noddles was not a regular for England, Tony currie , frank worthington who was our most skilful forward ever got a handful of caps.. You can see why we are 20 years behind Spain in developing talent.
I have to agree with you on this.

We finally have a crop of talented youngsters coming through

Barclay, Townsend,The Ox , Lallana, Walcott, Sterling, Sturridge. Wilshire, Morrison
Lets hope a number of them get their chance in Brazil.
We are not going to win the world cup, but maybe we can just surprise a few people
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: "we need grafters not posers" And with that sentence England's football heritage is summed up - it is everything wrong with the game at the moment. This is why Carlton Palmer got more than twice the number of England caps as Matt Le Tissier.[/p][/quote]Arnie we finally sing from the same place, glen noddles was not a regular for England, Tony currie , frank worthington who was our most skilful forward ever got a handful of caps.. You can see why we are 20 years behind Spain in developing talent.[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you on this. We finally have a crop of talented youngsters coming through Barclay, Townsend,The Ox , Lallana, Walcott, Sterling, Sturridge. Wilshire, Morrison Lets hope a number of them get their chance in Brazil. We are not going to win the world cup, but maybe we can just surprise a few people OldGull
  • Score: 4

7:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OldGull says...

And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment
And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment OldGull
  • Score: 5

7:17pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ringtone says...

OldGull wrote:
I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me.
One in particular has slagged off
Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave.
He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match.
We have a few regulars on this site.
They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence.

I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe.
Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example.
I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help?
The only people it helps is the opposition.

Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs
UTA
Do you really think any player would want to waste his time here and read the rubbish you come out with, really.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me. One in particular has slagged off Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave. He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match. We have a few regulars on this site. They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence. I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe. Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example. I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help? The only people it helps is the opposition. Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs UTA[/p][/quote]Do you really think any player would want to waste his time here and read the rubbish you come out with, really. ringtone
  • Score: -4

7:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

OldGull wrote:
And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment
You got a thumbs down for defending the player! It's not just el Dave who gets unjustified stick!
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment[/p][/quote]You got a thumbs down for defending the player! It's not just el Dave who gets unjustified stick! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

7:24pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ringtone says...

heathgate wrote:
Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.
Well said HEATHGATE
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Its a disussion thread,.... discuss it or bu**er off,.... stop running the journo down for simply providing a FREE platform for you to bleat on.[/p][/quote]Well said HEATHGATE ringtone
  • Score: -4

7:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ringtone says...

mark by the sea wrote:
OldGull wrote:
And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment
You got a thumbs down for defending the player! It's not just el Dave who gets unjustified stick!
Thank you Mark
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: And talking of trolls, The Ring has made his usual insightful comment[/p][/quote]You got a thumbs down for defending the player! It's not just el Dave who gets unjustified stick![/p][/quote]Thank you Mark ringtone
  • Score: -3

7:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

OldGull says...

So predictable
You hear a RINGING sound
And the caller says nothing of value
So predictable You hear a RINGING sound And the caller says nothing of value OldGull
  • Score: 6

7:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Aldrington Halt wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I agree it is a strange thread.
However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play.
So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we?
Hear Hear
Absolute tosh.

They have got an easy life working 1 hour and thirty minutes per week.

I dont see them wanting to quit over a few boos, would you?
[quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I agree it is a strange thread. However, I would only say that it can't do anything for a player's confidence if the crowd get on his back. And the higher the confidence the better he will play. So, if you detractors want a good performance from Spanish Dave give him some support. After all, we're all on the same side aren't we?[/p][/quote]Hear Hear[/p][/quote]Absolute tosh. They have got an easy life working 1 hour and thirty minutes per week. I dont see them wanting to quit over a few boos, would you? ringtone
  • Score: -6

7:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

tug509 says...

Very strange article from Andy Naylor ,is it possible that he has spoken to SD ,and picked up on something ?.
SD has had he`s share of criticism this season ,we all like a gutsy player ,who gets stuck in ,but not ,I believe at any cost . Should we lose SD to a 50/50 hospital ball ,let it be a last second of the game winner in a Wembley final ,not a middle of the park ,going nowhere tackle ,preferably don't lose him to injury at all .
One of my all time favourite players was Terry Butcher ,he had the guts and pain threshold of a bull ,but he was no mug ,in fact a very intelligent player ,quite the opposite of SD where roles are concerned .
Totally agree with all those that would trust him with a last minute free kick or penalty .

In essence SD plays for OUR club ,and we have a lot of magical moments to treasure (FK against palis in the 3-0) thanks to him ,and more to come I`m sure .
SD is a ,"been there seen it done it " player ,so I would be surprised if this bothered him too much ,but we should be better than that to our own ,leave the backbiting to those who shall not be named ?!. UTA
Very strange article from Andy Naylor ,is it possible that he has spoken to SD ,and picked up on something ?. SD has had he`s share of criticism this season ,we all like a gutsy player ,who gets stuck in ,but not ,I believe at any cost . Should we lose SD to a 50/50 hospital ball ,let it be a last second of the game winner in a Wembley final ,not a middle of the park ,going nowhere tackle ,preferably don't lose him to injury at all . One of my all time favourite players was Terry Butcher ,he had the guts and pain threshold of a bull ,but he was no mug ,in fact a very intelligent player ,quite the opposite of SD where roles are concerned . Totally agree with all those that would trust him with a last minute free kick or penalty . In essence SD plays for OUR club ,and we have a lot of magical moments to treasure (FK against palis in the 3-0) thanks to him ,and more to come I`m sure . SD is a ,"been there seen it done it " player ,so I would be surprised if this bothered him too much ,but we should be better than that to our own ,leave the backbiting to those who shall not be named ?!. UTA tug509
  • Score: 3

8:14pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Conelli98 says...

Sorry but Jenny as he is know known must win the fans back and that starts by not bottling tackles as he did against Wigan. I will not boo a Brighton playerbut he has to earn the backing too!!!
Sorry but Jenny as he is know known must win the fans back and that starts by not bottling tackles as he did against Wigan. I will not boo a Brighton playerbut he has to earn the backing too!!! Conelli98
  • Score: -3

8:26pm Thu 13 Mar 14

The Phantom says...

Odd article - to be honest, despite his lack of form and consistent performance this season, I think everyone has pretty much stuck with Spanish Dave. A nice style of player who will never be particularly strong in the tackle - just the way it is with some players. Have heard far more negatives about Andrews in recent weeks than Spanish Dave - for what it's worth the guy two rows back from me in WSL gives dog's abuse to Greer every time we are losing (mind you he does appear to be a complete moron). Probably the biggest problem with Spanish Dave is that when he plays and anyone but Lua Lua plays on the left there is no pace in the side which has a detrimental effect on the whole team. With Oscar preferring hard working non creative midfielders it leaves SD out on a limb somewhat. I am sure he will have his moments before the end of the season and who knows might still be a Wembley play off hero.
Odd article - to be honest, despite his lack of form and consistent performance this season, I think everyone has pretty much stuck with Spanish Dave. A nice style of player who will never be particularly strong in the tackle - just the way it is with some players. Have heard far more negatives about Andrews in recent weeks than Spanish Dave - for what it's worth the guy two rows back from me in WSL gives dog's abuse to Greer every time we are losing (mind you he does appear to be a complete moron). Probably the biggest problem with Spanish Dave is that when he plays and anyone but Lua Lua plays on the left there is no pace in the side which has a detrimental effect on the whole team. With Oscar preferring hard working non creative midfielders it leaves SD out on a limb somewhat. I am sure he will have his moments before the end of the season and who knows might still be a Wembley play off hero. The Phantom
  • Score: 3

8:40pm Thu 13 Mar 14

JPsseagulls says...

All I want is for Spanish Dave to do well. I believe that the best way to do this is by playing him in the central attacking midfield role. This was where he saw most of his success last season whilst playing off Orlandi. Hopefully, when Orlandi is fully fit both players can hit a good run of form.
All I want is for Spanish Dave to do well. I believe that the best way to do this is by playing him in the central attacking midfield role. This was where he saw most of his success last season whilst playing off Orlandi. Hopefully, when Orlandi is fully fit both players can hit a good run of form. JPsseagulls
  • Score: 4

11:13pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Eddy B says...

The article implies its personal. Is that really the case or do the fans just say it how they see it? Fans do judge players' performances and I do think they have a right to do so. Just because I'm a Brighton fan and I want all the players to do well and win every game doesn't mean I can't criticise a performance too - of the team, or individual players.

I think generally the majority of Brighton fans are very generous in their support for all our players, often giving standing ovations to a substituted player who hasn't particularly done alot (David being the most substituted player all season). Although fans see players differently there does seem to be a bit of a consensus forming that David has been a bit rubbish this season, no doubt picked up by the correspondent above who is probably playing devil's advocate.

I think David (and Barnes before him) has suffered criticism simply as he just haven't played very well, simple as that (and has had many first team chances). I have been disappointed as I thought he was great last season and was very pleased when he was re-signed at the last minute. I'm sure this criticism would disappear immediately with a good performance and a goal or two.

ps. I also do agree with some posters that the best I ever saw Dave play last season was when he was in central midfield.
The article implies its personal. Is that really the case or do the fans just say it how they see it? Fans do judge players' performances and I do think they have a right to do so. Just because I'm a Brighton fan and I want all the players to do well and win every game doesn't mean I can't criticise a performance too - of the team, or individual players. I think generally the majority of Brighton fans are very generous in their support for all our players, often giving standing ovations to a substituted player who hasn't particularly done alot (David being the most substituted player all season). Although fans see players differently there does seem to be a bit of a consensus forming that David has been a bit rubbish this season, no doubt picked up by the correspondent above who is probably playing devil's advocate. I think David (and Barnes before him) has suffered criticism simply as he just haven't played very well, simple as that (and has had many first team chances). I have been disappointed as I thought he was great last season and was very pleased when he was re-signed at the last minute. I'm sure this criticism would disappear immediately with a good performance and a goal or two. ps. I also do agree with some posters that the best I ever saw Dave play last season was when he was in central midfield. Eddy B
  • Score: 4

11:32pm Thu 13 Mar 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

He's lightweight, scared of a tackle, inconsistent, gets subbed at 60 mins every game he starts, (which kind of proves the point), so no wonder people get on his back, he's just not good enough, simple as that. Is this some sort of campaign to ask everyone to pretend he's better than he really is in the hope that this would somehow make him better?

Cant believe the Argus would run such a daft story/thread.
He's lightweight, scared of a tackle, inconsistent, gets subbed at 60 mins every game he starts, (which kind of proves the point), so no wonder people get on his back, he's just not good enough, simple as that. Is this some sort of campaign to ask everyone to pretend he's better than he really is in the hope that this would somehow make him better? Cant believe the Argus would run such a daft story/thread. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: -6

12:22am Fri 14 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
He's lightweight, scared of a tackle, inconsistent, gets subbed at 60 mins every game he starts, (which kind of proves the point), so no wonder people get on his back, he's just not good enough, simple as that. Is this some sort of campaign to ask everyone to pretend he's better than he really is in the hope that this would somehow make him better?

Cant believe the Argus would run such a daft story/thread.
He may gets subbed a lot, but he starts a heck of a lot of games. That has to say something too, surely?

He is still the best passer at the club, and for that I can forgive him not risking injury in tackles he hasn't got the physical strength to win.
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: He's lightweight, scared of a tackle, inconsistent, gets subbed at 60 mins every game he starts, (which kind of proves the point), so no wonder people get on his back, he's just not good enough, simple as that. Is this some sort of campaign to ask everyone to pretend he's better than he really is in the hope that this would somehow make him better? Cant believe the Argus would run such a daft story/thread.[/p][/quote]He may gets subbed a lot, but he starts a heck of a lot of games. That has to say something too, surely? He is still the best passer at the club, and for that I can forgive him not risking injury in tackles he hasn't got the physical strength to win. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 5

9:31am Fri 14 Mar 14

fratsomrover says...

Bit harsh comparing Lopez to Barnes. It's like comparing a Bentley with Morris Minor.
Lopez has skill, class, poise and is probably the best deliverer of a pass in the club. He's not a good tackler, does not possess electrifying speed and does not appear to work quite as hard as others in midfield, but he is a valuable asset because he is a precision passer and creates goal scoring opportunities for others( remember that fantastic pass to set up Conway v Leicester).
Barnes had no skill, poise, pace or class, but because he chased around throwing himself on the ground at every challenge, some fans warmed to him because of " his efforts". They forget his efforts were generally unproductive.
Some fans really take to "triers" rather than classier players. The lower leagues are full of triers but the successful sides are full of class, so give me class any day.
Bit harsh comparing Lopez to Barnes. It's like comparing a Bentley with Morris Minor. Lopez has skill, class, poise and is probably the best deliverer of a pass in the club. He's not a good tackler, does not possess electrifying speed and does not appear to work quite as hard as others in midfield, but he is a valuable asset because he is a precision passer and creates goal scoring opportunities for others( remember that fantastic pass to set up Conway v Leicester). Barnes had no skill, poise, pace or class, but because he chased around throwing himself on the ground at every challenge, some fans warmed to him because of " his efforts". They forget his efforts were generally unproductive. Some fans really take to "triers" rather than classier players. The lower leagues are full of triers but the successful sides are full of class, so give me class any day. fratsomrover
  • Score: 3

10:44am Sat 15 Mar 14

Oscar's Chin says...

ringtone wrote:
OldGull wrote:
I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me.
One in particular has slagged off
Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave.
He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match.
We have a few regulars on this site.
They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence.

I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe.
Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example.
I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help?
The only people it helps is the opposition.

Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs
UTA
Do you really think any player would want to waste his time here and read the rubbish you come out with, really.
Oh the irony!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: I sit WSU,there are 1 or 2 detractors near me. One in particular has slagged off Navarro , Ankergren, Dicker, Crofts (last season), Barnes,Painter, Andrews & Dave. He is just a numbnut who has to target somebody every match. We have a few regulars on this site. They think they are being clever but all they achieve is to undermine a player's confidence. I know Dave has not performed as well as last season, but he still contributes far more than our resident trolls would have you believe. Take the 2 exquisite passes to create the goals against Leicester for example. I have never understood the mindless slagging off of players, How does that help? The only people it helps is the opposition. Lets get behind ALL the players and push on to the play offs UTA[/p][/quote]Do you really think any player would want to waste his time here and read the rubbish you come out with, really.[/p][/quote]Oh the irony! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 1

10:50am Sat 15 Mar 14

Oscar's Chin says...

tug509 wrote:
Very strange article from Andy Naylor ,is it possible that he has spoken to SD ,and picked up on something ?.
SD has had he`s share of criticism this season ,we all like a gutsy player ,who gets stuck in ,but not ,I believe at any cost . Should we lose SD to a 50/50 hospital ball ,let it be a last second of the game winner in a Wembley final ,not a middle of the park ,going nowhere tackle ,preferably don't lose him to injury at all .
One of my all time favourite players was Terry Butcher ,he had the guts and pain threshold of a bull ,but he was no mug ,in fact a very intelligent player ,quite the opposite of SD where roles are concerned .
Totally agree with all those that would trust him with a last minute free kick or penalty .

In essence SD plays for OUR club ,and we have a lot of magical moments to treasure (FK against palis in the 3-0) thanks to him ,and more to come I`m sure .
SD is a ,"been there seen it done it " player ,so I would be surprised if this bothered him too much ,but we should be better than that to our own ,leave the backbiting to those who shall not be named ?!. UTA
Possibly he's picked something up from him direct but far more likely he's been reading a bit too much North Stand Chat!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Very strange article from Andy Naylor ,is it possible that he has spoken to SD ,and picked up on something ?. SD has had he`s share of criticism this season ,we all like a gutsy player ,who gets stuck in ,but not ,I believe at any cost . Should we lose SD to a 50/50 hospital ball ,let it be a last second of the game winner in a Wembley final ,not a middle of the park ,going nowhere tackle ,preferably don't lose him to injury at all . One of my all time favourite players was Terry Butcher ,he had the guts and pain threshold of a bull ,but he was no mug ,in fact a very intelligent player ,quite the opposite of SD where roles are concerned . Totally agree with all those that would trust him with a last minute free kick or penalty . In essence SD plays for OUR club ,and we have a lot of magical moments to treasure (FK against palis in the 3-0) thanks to him ,and more to come I`m sure . SD is a ,"been there seen it done it " player ,so I would be surprised if this bothered him too much ,but we should be better than that to our own ,leave the backbiting to those who shall not be named ?!. UTA[/p][/quote]Possibly he's picked something up from him direct but far more likely he's been reading a bit too much North Stand Chat! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 0

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