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Albion talking point: Did they have a let-off with Bolton's disallowed goal?

The Argus: Was Joe Mason, the Bolton player furthest to the left, offside? Was Joe Mason, the Bolton player furthest to the left, offside?

Did Albion get just a bit of good fortune as they won at the Reebok yesterday?

Bolton boss Dougie Freedman was adamant his side’s potential equaliser in the second half, tucked away by Joe Mason, was wrongly ruled out for offside.

And this shot – taken from coverage of the game on BBC TV’s Football League Show – seems to support his view.

Mason, on the edge of the six-yard box, appears to be in line with defender Gordon Greer as the ball is drilled into the goalmouth.

Albion assistant head coach Nathan Jones said he had not seen replays when he spoke to reporters after the game.

But he admitted it was a “hairy” moment.

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10:36am Sun 16 Mar 14

albionfan33 says...

offside is offside and thats that
offside is offside and thats that albionfan33
  • Score: 12

10:45am Sun 16 Mar 14

Alan G Skinner says...

1cm, 1inch, 1metre, offside is offside. Can I also ask why the four or five instances when we were incorrectly flagged offside against Reading and QPR have not been highlighted here. Why is our own newspaper questioning a decision which had no bearing on the outcome. We scored twice!
1cm, 1inch, 1metre, offside is offside. Can I also ask why the four or five instances when we were incorrectly flagged offside against Reading and QPR have not been highlighted here. Why is our own newspaper questioning a decision which had no bearing on the outcome. We scored twice! Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 29

10:51am Sun 16 Mar 14

albionfan33 says...

local paper and impatialism dont normally go hand in hand.......
local paper and impatialism dont normally go hand in hand....... albionfan33
  • Score: 6

11:04am Sun 16 Mar 14

Brightspur-e-l-b says...

Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer? Brightspur-e-l-b
  • Score: 13

11:15am Sun 16 Mar 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Another slow news day!!
It's no use whatsoever trying to analyse decisions by the ref and his assistant.
What's done is done. We move on to the next game.
In the heat of the moment we can get uptight about decisions we don't like but after the game? What's the point. I don't believe referees deliberately make wrong decisions but they do get them wrong sometimes. Even when we see an incident over and over again different people still come up with differing views. So give the ref a break. He or she only has one chance to make that decision and the ref's decision is always final. So accept it. UTA
Another slow news day!! It's no use whatsoever trying to analyse decisions by the ref and his assistant. What's done is done. We move on to the next game. In the heat of the moment we can get uptight about decisions we don't like but after the game? What's the point. I don't believe referees deliberately make wrong decisions but they do get them wrong sometimes. Even when we see an incident over and over again different people still come up with differing views. So give the ref a break. He or she only has one chance to make that decision and the ref's decision is always final. So accept it. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 13

11:17am Sun 16 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Brightspur-e-l-b wrote:
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
Cole is a friend of upsons, matty new found lease of life here after two years in stoke laying on the treatment table must be a good ad for the club,
Joe cole is sorted for life , bring his family to the civilised south coast would be good for all concerned.
[quote][p][bold]Brightspur-e-l-b[/bold] wrote: Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?[/p][/quote]Cole is a friend of upsons, matty new found lease of life here after two years in stoke laying on the treatment table must be a good ad for the club, Joe cole is sorted for life , bring his family to the civilised south coast would be good for all concerned. mark by the sea
  • Score: 14

11:28am Sun 16 Mar 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Brightspur-e-l-b wrote:
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
Correct! Most of us fans on here could think of more interesting articles than this one, Joe Cole story a good example yet again we go digging elswhere for the good stuff..
[quote][p][bold]Brightspur-e-l-b[/bold] wrote: Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?[/p][/quote]Correct! Most of us fans on here could think of more interesting articles than this one, Joe Cole story a good example yet again we go digging elswhere for the good stuff.. Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 7

11:31am Sun 16 Mar 14

Hillian says...

I think Mason's body was just in front of Greers + the linesman would have seen Mason in font of Greer son ONSIDE! sorry Dougie!
I think Mason's body was just in front of Greers + the linesman would have seen Mason in font of Greer son ONSIDE! sorry Dougie! Hillian
  • Score: 4

12:36pm Sun 16 Mar 14

tug509 says...

Hillian wrote:
I think Mason's body was just in front of Greers + the linesman would have seen Mason in font of Greer son ONSIDE! sorry Dougie!
I think the picture clearly shows Mason in front of and slightly closer towards our goal than GG ,so OFFSIDE imho ,close yes ,but offside . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Hillian[/bold] wrote: I think Mason's body was just in front of Greers + the linesman would have seen Mason in font of Greer son ONSIDE! sorry Dougie![/p][/quote]I think the picture clearly shows Mason in front of and slightly closer towards our goal than GG ,so OFFSIDE imho ,close yes ,but offside . UTA tug509
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Sun 16 Mar 14

AlanDuffy says...

Brightspur-e-l-b wrote:
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
"It is believed that Cole, 32, has accepted that he is unlikely to find a Premier League club".........that's us out then!!!

Also he's on £90,000 a week.
[quote][p][bold]Brightspur-e-l-b[/bold] wrote: Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?[/p][/quote]"It is believed that Cole, 32, has accepted that he is unlikely to find a Premier League club".........that's us out then!!! Also he's on £90,000 a week. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 8

1:03pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Alfie T says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Brightspur-e-l-b wrote:
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
Cole is a friend of upsons, matty new found lease of life here after two years in stoke laying on the treatment table must be a good ad for the club,
Joe cole is sorted for life , bring his family to the civilised south coast would be good for all concerned.
Off side,on side who gives a t..s, Freedman's P45 is edging ever nearer. Joe Cole to Brighton? What this does prove is our meteoric rise has not gone unnoticed. Great Club,great city,great times ahead.:-)
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightspur-e-l-b[/bold] wrote: Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?[/p][/quote]Cole is a friend of upsons, matty new found lease of life here after two years in stoke laying on the treatment table must be a good ad for the club, Joe cole is sorted for life , bring his family to the civilised south coast would be good for all concerned.[/p][/quote]Off side,on side who gives a t..s, Freedman's P45 is edging ever nearer. Joe Cole to Brighton? What this does prove is our meteoric rise has not gone unnoticed. Great Club,great city,great times ahead.:-) Alfie T
  • Score: 9

1:04pm Sun 16 Mar 14

pte says...

Two quality goals, 3 points game over, so move on argus- it's history
Two quality goals, 3 points game over, so move on argus- it's history pte
  • Score: 7

2:04pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Thread Flintstone says...

Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it.
Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion.
If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here.
I believe its called "making an effort "
Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it. Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion. If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here. I believe its called "making an effort " Thread Flintstone
  • Score: 3

2:21pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Neville says...

If you view match highlights on Football League show,you will see Mason clearly offside as ball is played,marginal yes but correct decision.
If you view match highlights on Football League show,you will see Mason clearly offside as ball is played,marginal yes but correct decision. Neville
  • Score: 7

2:30pm Sun 16 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Fortune seems to follow us all season

1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa

2.Watfords clear goal not given

3. the joke penalty at Millwall

4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance

5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton

I hope I havent missed anything
Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything ringtone
  • Score: -23

3:56pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."
That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo." Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

4:09pm Sun 16 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."
I bet it would if the boot was on the other hoof
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."[/p][/quote]I bet it would if the boot was on the other hoof ringtone
  • Score: -9

4:12pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."
I bet it would if the boot was on the other hoof
It would look exactly the same even if the teams were swapped. I can see this being given or not given and not disagreeing either way. Too close to call, but the linesman has the better view, looking along the line.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."[/p][/quote]I bet it would if the boot was on the other hoof[/p][/quote]It would look exactly the same even if the teams were swapped. I can see this being given or not given and not disagreeing either way. Too close to call, but the linesman has the better view, looking along the line. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

6:26pm Sun 16 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Off-side is not what actually happens. It is the referee or linesman's interpretation of what happens. Over the course of a season, they will get a small percentage of the decisions wrong. But they are still off-side.
The referee's decision is final.
Off-side is not what actually happens. It is the referee or linesman's interpretation of what happens. Over the course of a season, they will get a small percentage of the decisions wrong. But they are still off-side. The referee's decision is final. gordongull
  • Score: 3

7:10pm Sun 16 Mar 14

russellsnr2 says...

Brightspur-e-l-b wrote:
Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?
Problem is the article states he does not think that he can get into another premier team so as we are going up via the play off's?????
[quote][p][bold]Brightspur-e-l-b[/bold] wrote: Does it matter. No move on Argus. Maybe you can look in to the Sunday Mirror story about Joe Cole considering moving to Brighton in the summer?[/p][/quote]Problem is the article states he does not think that he can get into another premier team so as we are going up via the play off's????? russellsnr2
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Sun 16 Mar 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.
What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -9

9:14pm Sun 16 Mar 14

gordongull says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.
Nice try Nathan :)
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.[/p][/quote]Nice try Nathan :) gordongull
  • Score: 5

9:33pm Sun 16 Mar 14

pwlr1966 says...

Thread Flintstone wrote:
Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it.
Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion.
If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here.
I believe its called "making an effort "
APART FROM THE FACT OF LAZY JOURNALISM, constant articles asking readers to put forward their theories and thoughts of whom was mom or were they lucky, using readers to fill their pages, cheap and nasty. poor reporting shame on you editor
[quote][p][bold]Thread Flintstone[/bold] wrote: Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it. Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion. If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here. I believe its called "making an effort "[/p][/quote]APART FROM THE FACT OF LAZY JOURNALISM, constant articles asking readers to put forward their theories and thoughts of whom was mom or were they lucky, using readers to fill their pages, cheap and nasty. poor reporting shame on you editor pwlr1966
  • Score: -1

12:43am Mon 17 Mar 14

pte says...

gordongull wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.
Nice try Nathan :)
Where's that, Tescoes?
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.[/p][/quote]Nice try Nathan :)[/p][/quote]Where's that, Tescoes? pte
  • Score: -2

1:39pm Mon 17 Mar 14

heathgate says...

pwlr1966 wrote:
Thread Flintstone wrote: Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it. Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion. If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here. I believe its called "making an effort "
APART FROM THE FACT OF LAZY JOURNALISM, constant articles asking readers to put forward their theories and thoughts of whom was mom or were they lucky, using readers to fill their pages, cheap and nasty. poor reporting shame on you editor
You are a cheerful soul,...... jog on please and leave the rest of us to have a read and a light discussion,......... pwlr1966,.... I think you are lucky there isnt a common sense test as a pre-requisite to contributing on these pages,... you would be out in the cold for sure.
[quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thread Flintstone[/bold] wrote: Why are people having a dig at the Argus for this (and several others) article. There is not a head line coming out of the club every single day, so they start a "talking point" and get slated for it. Surely they can only report what the club /sources tell them so if there's nothing to tell people then why not start a thread for discussion. If they didn't report anything for a day there would be uproar on here. I believe its called "making an effort "[/p][/quote]APART FROM THE FACT OF LAZY JOURNALISM, constant articles asking readers to put forward their theories and thoughts of whom was mom or were they lucky, using readers to fill their pages, cheap and nasty. poor reporting shame on you editor[/p][/quote]You are a cheerful soul,...... jog on please and leave the rest of us to have a read and a light discussion,......... pwlr1966,.... I think you are lucky there isnt a common sense test as a pre-requisite to contributing on these pages,... you would be out in the cold for sure. heathgate
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Mike Tiddy says...

ringtone wrote:
Fortune seems to follow us all season

1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa

2.Watfords clear goal not given

3. the joke penalty at Millwall

4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance

5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton

I hope I havent missed anything
Watford 'clear goal' as you state was not a goal, if you had ever bothered to watch the replays it clearly shows that the whole of the ball had NOT crossed the whole of the line and therefore following 'thr laws of the game' it was definitely not a goal. Also if we had goal line technology that too would have shown it was not a goal.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything[/p][/quote]Watford 'clear goal' as you state was not a goal, if you had ever bothered to watch the replays it clearly shows that the whole of the ball had NOT crossed the whole of the line and therefore following 'thr laws of the game' it was definitely not a goal. Also if we had goal line technology that too would have shown it was not a goal. Mike Tiddy
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Mike Tiddy says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."
As the Laws of the Game state, if any part of a player, that can play the ball, is closer to the goal line than the second last defender, so not a hand/ arm but head or body or leg, it is offside.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: That still appears to show the players' feet in the same places but with the attacker leaning towards the goal and the defender away, so to the linesman it would appear that it was offside. But still, as Joey from Friends said it's "a moo point, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."[/p][/quote]As the Laws of the Game state, if any part of a player, that can play the ball, is closer to the goal line than the second last defender, so not a hand/ arm but head or body or leg, it is offside. Mike Tiddy
  • Score: 3

12:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
1cm, 1inch, 1metre, offside is offside. Can I also ask why the four or five instances when we were incorrectly flagged offside against Reading and QPR have not been highlighted here. Why is our own newspaper questioning a decision which had no bearing on the outcome. We scored twice!
Quite right. Also the penalties (3) waved away this season such as home vs Derby?

Argus are making far too much of this. Must have a Bolton fan on the staff.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: 1cm, 1inch, 1metre, offside is offside. Can I also ask why the four or five instances when we were incorrectly flagged offside against Reading and QPR have not been highlighted here. Why is our own newspaper questioning a decision which had no bearing on the outcome. We scored twice![/p][/quote]Quite right. Also the penalties (3) waved away this season such as home vs Derby? Argus are making far too much of this. Must have a Bolton fan on the staff. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

ringtone wrote:
Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything
2:30pm Sun 16 Mar 14
ringtone says...

Fortune seems to follow us all season

1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa

CORRECT DECISION.

2.Watfords clear goal not given

CLEAR GOAL? 95% OVER = NO GOAL (we were lucky it wasn't wrongly awarded I'll grant you that, as it was mighty close).

3. the joke penalty at Millwall

CONTENTIOUS BUT WE'VE BEEN REFUSED THREE CLEAR CUT PENS OURSELVES, HAD A LUDICROUS ONE GIVEN AGAINST US (by Bournemouth: AGAIN!!!) and overall we are 11-7 down in decisions IF you include the pen at Millwall. Mason looks offside and most agree. Luck has still not evened itself out, especially given our dreadful fortunes with injuries.

4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance

INCIDENT DOESN'T EXIST. Nearest to that is the yellow for a very UNclear goal scoring opportunity for Reading....oh yes Greer's second yellow was harsh so let's call 12-7 down on decisions this season. Thanks for reminding me.

5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton

NOPE

I hope I havent missed anything

ONLY OUR GAMES THIS SEASON BY THE LOOKS OF IT, AND / OR YOUR SPECS!

Think that redresses the balance back to reality for you Ringpiece, you tedious non-entity.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything[/p][/quote]2:30pm Sun 16 Mar 14 ringtone says... Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa CORRECT DECISION. 2.Watfords clear goal not given CLEAR GOAL? 95% OVER = NO GOAL (we were lucky it wasn't wrongly awarded I'll grant you that, as it was mighty close). 3. the joke penalty at Millwall CONTENTIOUS BUT WE'VE BEEN REFUSED THREE CLEAR CUT PENS OURSELVES, HAD A LUDICROUS ONE GIVEN AGAINST US (by Bournemouth: AGAIN!!!) and overall we are 11-7 down in decisions IF you include the pen at Millwall. Mason looks offside and most agree. Luck has still not evened itself out, especially given our dreadful fortunes with injuries. 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance INCIDENT DOESN'T EXIST. Nearest to that is the yellow for a very UNclear goal scoring opportunity for Reading....oh yes Greer's second yellow was harsh so let's call 12-7 down on decisions this season. Thanks for reminding me. 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton NOPE I hope I havent missed anything ONLY OUR GAMES THIS SEASON BY THE LOOKS OF IT, AND / OR YOUR SPECS! Think that redresses the balance back to reality for you Ringpiece, you tedious non-entity. Captain Haddock
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2:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.
Absolute rubbish. Oscar is the key man and the motivator.

I suppose you didn't see him interviewed post-match vs Reading on The Football League Show recently or hear any of his regular interviews on BBC. Sussex....or read any of his recent stuff on here then? No?
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: What is perhaps more concerning is the fact that nothing is seen or heard from Oscar these days. Even on post match tv interviews it's always Nathan jones doing the talking, it may well be that he picks the team and does all the work. All of which begs the question, what is Oscar actually for? We seem to be doing much better with him out of the equation so make jones the manager instead of this 'head coach' nonsense and we appear to have a better chance of success. I have long suspected that the head coach set up is just over complicating things, Oscar doesn't seem much of a motivator to me, whereas jones knows the club and is more hands on, plus he is always the focal point of media communications and the players seem to be responding better to him. Oscar I think has become some sort of ornamental piece with no real value. Jones on his own could take us to the promised land.[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish. Oscar is the key man and the motivator. I suppose you didn't see him interviewed post-match vs Reading on The Football League Show recently or hear any of his regular interviews on BBC. Sussex....or read any of his recent stuff on here then? No? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

2:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Captain Haddock says...

Mike Tiddy wrote:
ringtone wrote: Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything
Watford 'clear goal' as you state was not a goal, if you had ever bothered to watch the replays it clearly shows that the whole of the ball had NOT crossed the whole of the line and therefore following 'thr laws of the game' it was definitely not a goal. Also if we had goal line technology that too would have shown it was not a goal.
Is the correct answer.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Tiddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Fortune seems to follow us all season 1.Calderons red card being overturned by the fa 2.Watfords clear goal not given 3. the joke penalty at Millwall 4. Greer not getting red carded for clear denial of a goal scoring chance 5. Yesterday, clear goal disallowed for Bolton I hope I havent missed anything[/p][/quote]Watford 'clear goal' as you state was not a goal, if you had ever bothered to watch the replays it clearly shows that the whole of the ball had NOT crossed the whole of the line and therefore following 'thr laws of the game' it was definitely not a goal. Also if we had goal line technology that too would have shown it was not a goal.[/p][/quote]Is the correct answer. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Well said Captain - well past rebuttal and on the way to complete refutation.
Well said Captain - well past rebuttal and on the way to complete refutation. Ex-pat Arnie
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