Oscar: Our mistakes are being punished

Middlesbrough celebrate their second goal

Middlesbrough celebrate their second goal

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Oscar believes Albion are being punished for their mistakes.

And he admits they are finding it harder than their opponents to do likewise.

Middlesbrough made the most of a Gordon Greer error to go ahead in their 2-0 win at the Amex yesterday.

The Seagulls had chances too but wasted the best of them when Leo Ulloa missed a penalty Albion’s head coach said: “In the last games we made some mistakes at the back and the opposition punished us.

“But they have been outstanding during all the season.

“It’s difficult for us because when, we make a mistake, normally the opposition punish us and when the opposition makes a mistake it’s difficult for us to score.”

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9:52am Sun 30 Mar 14

championshipgull says...

Mistakes happen, thank goodness the defence haven’t made too many this season. Its amazing we have been bailed out by the other results twice in one week. It just goes to show what a difficult league this is. But if anyone can put a run of results together, we must be favourites just with the amount of chances we are still creating. Come on you Seagulls, let’s start burying them before we run out of games.
Mistakes happen, thank goodness the defence haven’t made too many this season. Its amazing we have been bailed out by the other results twice in one week. It just goes to show what a difficult league this is. But if anyone can put a run of results together, we must be favourites just with the amount of chances we are still creating. Come on you Seagulls, let’s start burying them before we run out of games. championshipgull
  • Score: 23

9:54am Sun 30 Mar 14

JollyRoger says...

If, by mistakes do you mean our inability to get behind the opposition's defence and score then I agree. But I suspect you mean mistakes that result in us losing or giving away possession.

We'd already had a few chances before GG's 'mistake' cost us the first goal and we failed to take any of them. We had a some decent spells of possession and a few corners that should have led to more chances being created - but we failed to capitalise on them as well.

If we play with commitment, intensity and passion and get ahead by scoring goals you can live with one or two mistakes. Sadly, we did none of these yesterday.
If, by mistakes do you mean our inability to get behind the opposition's defence and score then I agree. But I suspect you mean mistakes that result in us losing or giving away possession. We'd already had a few chances before GG's 'mistake' cost us the first goal and we failed to take any of them. We had a some decent spells of possession and a few corners that should have led to more chances being created - but we failed to capitalise on them as well. If we play with commitment, intensity and passion and get ahead by scoring goals you can live with one or two mistakes. Sadly, we did none of these yesterday. JollyRoger
  • Score: 10

10:20am Sun 30 Mar 14

Peteinblack says...

Excuses, excuses!
I simply don't think Oscar is the right man for the job.
True, he doesn't have the ego and mouthiness of our previous manager, but neither does he seem to have any enthusiasm or passion whatsoever.
I can't imagine how a pre-match team talk by him (translated by Nathan) would inspire the players.
Excuses, excuses! I simply don't think Oscar is the right man for the job. True, he doesn't have the ego and mouthiness of our previous manager, but neither does he seem to have any enthusiasm or passion whatsoever. I can't imagine how a pre-match team talk by him (translated by Nathan) would inspire the players. Peteinblack
  • Score: 11

10:33am Sun 30 Mar 14

tug509 says...

You pick the team and set the tactics ,and refuse point blank to change them if needed ie:No plan B ,you play one forward ,when sometimes we need two ,you play one winger when two are needed on our huge pitch,at one point yesterday after WB went off (Arnie) we had 8 defensive players on the pitch at once ,the normal 5 defence (inc TK) and 3 DMF Andrews Ince and JFC ,so exactly WHO`S MISTAKES ARE BEING PUNISHED ??.
You pick the team and set the tactics ,and refuse point blank to change them if needed ie:No plan B ,you play one forward ,when sometimes we need two ,you play one winger when two are needed on our huge pitch,at one point yesterday after WB went off (Arnie) we had 8 defensive players on the pitch at once ,the normal 5 defence (inc TK) and 3 DMF Andrews Ince and JFC ,so exactly WHO`S MISTAKES ARE BEING PUNISHED ??. tug509
  • Score: 15

10:56am Sun 30 Mar 14

oscar must go says...

Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like

OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too.

Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need?

SACK THEM ALL, NOW.
Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too. Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need? SACK THEM ALL, NOW. oscar must go
  • Score: -2

11:01am Sun 30 Mar 14

Eddy B says...

Main mistake was replacing Buckley with JFC. The penalty miss and Greer's mistakes are a bit of a smokescreen. Both teams had chances, it was an open game - we had the penalty, the Lingard one two, the David shot in the first 5 mins, but I'd say on balance Boro had more chances keeping TK the busiest of the goalies. But that's all a bit irrelevant - at the end of the day it is the team that scores most that wins and the better teams are better at scoring whatever the source of the chance.
Main mistake was replacing Buckley with JFC. The penalty miss and Greer's mistakes are a bit of a smokescreen. Both teams had chances, it was an open game - we had the penalty, the Lingard one two, the David shot in the first 5 mins, but I'd say on balance Boro had more chances keeping TK the busiest of the goalies. But that's all a bit irrelevant - at the end of the day it is the team that scores most that wins and the better teams are better at scoring whatever the source of the chance. Eddy B
  • Score: 9

11:17am Sun 30 Mar 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here. Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 12

11:32am Sun 30 Mar 14

Seagulls via LCFC says...

No imagination and too defensive. Should have brought on March or KLL for Buckley, as they can attack defenses and get behind them. They add a bit of a spark, which was missing big time yesterday. Lingard must have a clause in his contract that states he must play all games, as he has shown little since his arrival, although yesterday was probably his best game. Doesn't say much! Ulloa is the best player but he cannot do it all on his own. A lack of goals is key factor. It can only get better!!
No imagination and too defensive. Should have brought on March or KLL for Buckley, as they can attack defenses and get behind them. They add a bit of a spark, which was missing big time yesterday. Lingard must have a clause in his contract that states he must play all games, as he has shown little since his arrival, although yesterday was probably his best game. Doesn't say much! Ulloa is the best player but he cannot do it all on his own. A lack of goals is key factor. It can only get better!! Seagulls via LCFC
  • Score: 4

11:38am Sun 30 Mar 14

bIsleybill says...

How many ways are there to express the pain?

Wait.......
How many ways are there to express the pain? Wait....... bIsleybill
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Neville says...

When you make mistakes at both ends of the pitch then the inevitable is a defeat and thats whats happening,especially at home.
When you make mistakes at both ends of the pitch then the inevitable is a defeat and thats whats happening,especially at home. Neville
  • Score: 7

12:16pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Steveg1958 says...

oscar must go wrote:
Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like

OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too.

Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need?

SACK THEM ALL, NOW.
Absolutely right Mr Motivator OG is not Oscar, Jones, Burke and Day must go, before we waste another summer and end us fighting relegation next season. We pay good money to be entertained not for the rubbish that is being served up at the moment (and I don't mean the pies). No passion, no plan and no idea on the pitch or in the technical area, No leader either off the pitch or on it. Horton and Mullery would have had that lot for breakfast, and I dread to think of Paul (Tank) Clarke's reaction. ACT NOW BLOOM before you have a half empty stadium. I will keep going in the hope something changes, but I don't expect our defend at all costs Oscar to change anytime soon.
[quote][p][bold]oscar must go[/bold] wrote: Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too. Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need? SACK THEM ALL, NOW.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Mr Motivator OG is not Oscar, Jones, Burke and Day must go, before we waste another summer and end us fighting relegation next season. We pay good money to be entertained not for the rubbish that is being served up at the moment (and I don't mean the pies). No passion, no plan and no idea on the pitch or in the technical area, No leader either off the pitch or on it. Horton and Mullery would have had that lot for breakfast, and I dread to think of Paul (Tank) Clarke's reaction. ACT NOW BLOOM before you have a half empty stadium. I will keep going in the hope something changes, but I don't expect our defend at all costs Oscar to change anytime soon. Steveg1958
  • Score: 2

12:31pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Far gull says...

Excuses . Fed to us by the argus but in truth Oscar you are the boss act like one. Make changes if required when we lose three in a row. Try other tactics. You are on talking terms with Jose and Pep we are told . Try what they do change tactics /personnel if required. You don't.
Show passion and smile for goodnessake once in a while. Admit you are wrong keep playing Andrews and one winger.
Play two wingers from the start.
Play our most creative player Bruno in the middle and Calderon at right back. Do something Original ffs.
All season the system has been the same and to be honest our position has flattered us. I know you don't "look at the table" ( you have told us)
Well start looking at it because we needed to go for it in the last three games because our league position demanded it.
Burke ,Jones and Barber wake up your not immune to your part in all this. If it is not happening on the pitch you are part of the team two and i can see Tony removing you lot as well . Because you will lose us more money than you save with some of your policies. Not afraid of thumbs down. Yesterday should be a wake up call to all.
Excuses . Fed to us by the argus but in truth Oscar you are the boss act like one. Make changes if required when we lose three in a row. Try other tactics. You are on talking terms with Jose and Pep we are told . Try what they do change tactics /personnel if required. You don't. Show passion and smile for goodnessake once in a while. Admit you are wrong keep playing Andrews and one winger. Play two wingers from the start. Play our most creative player Bruno in the middle and Calderon at right back. Do something Original ffs. All season the system has been the same and to be honest our position has flattered us. I know you don't "look at the table" ( you have told us) Well start looking at it because we needed to go for it in the last three games because our league position demanded it. Burke ,Jones and Barber wake up your not immune to your part in all this. If it is not happening on the pitch you are part of the team two and i can see Tony removing you lot as well . Because you will lose us more money than you save with some of your policies. Not afraid of thumbs down. Yesterday should be a wake up call to all. Far gull
  • Score: 18

12:34pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve... Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 5

12:34pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve... Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: -9

12:37pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Far gull says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
oscar must go wrote:
Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like

OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too.

Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need?

SACK THEM ALL, NOW.
Absolutely right Mr Motivator OG is not Oscar, Jones, Burke and Day must go, before we waste another summer and end us fighting relegation next season. We pay good money to be entertained not for the rubbish that is being served up at the moment (and I don't mean the pies). No passion, no plan and no idea on the pitch or in the technical area, No leader either off the pitch or on it. Horton and Mullery would have had that lot for breakfast, and I dread to think of Paul (Tank) Clarke's reaction. ACT NOW BLOOM before you have a half empty stadium. I will keep going in the hope something changes, but I don't expect our defend at all costs Oscar to change anytime soon.
Paul Clarke theres a player i have not heard in awhile. How many legs did he break of opposition.? Not through bad tackling but commitment and power with a never say die attitude. Him and Nobby would have subbed so of those on the pitch themselves before Mullery would have got up out of his seat.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oscar must go[/bold] wrote: Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too. Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need? SACK THEM ALL, NOW.[/p][/quote]Absolutely right Mr Motivator OG is not Oscar, Jones, Burke and Day must go, before we waste another summer and end us fighting relegation next season. We pay good money to be entertained not for the rubbish that is being served up at the moment (and I don't mean the pies). No passion, no plan and no idea on the pitch or in the technical area, No leader either off the pitch or on it. Horton and Mullery would have had that lot for breakfast, and I dread to think of Paul (Tank) Clarke's reaction. ACT NOW BLOOM before you have a half empty stadium. I will keep going in the hope something changes, but I don't expect our defend at all costs Oscar to change anytime soon.[/p][/quote]Paul Clarke theres a player i have not heard in awhile. How many legs did he break of opposition.? Not through bad tackling but commitment and power with a never say die attitude. Him and Nobby would have subbed so of those on the pitch themselves before Mullery would have got up out of his seat. Far gull
  • Score: 0

12:50pm Sun 30 Mar 14

albionfan33 says...

during the bolton game the players mobbed boltons lot to get the ball back in groups of 2-3-4s since then we have'nt done that at all and been well beat. go back to looking interested and closing the opponents down and chances will be created from there mistakes too. we cxannot continue to be toothless and paceless roll on the clearout. i hope og stays and has more influence on who plays for him/us as i do think he can bring on the youngsters just a shame hes got an aging team to work with atm
during the bolton game the players mobbed boltons lot to get the ball back in groups of 2-3-4s since then we have'nt done that at all and been well beat. go back to looking interested and closing the opponents down and chances will be created from there mistakes too. we cxannot continue to be toothless and paceless roll on the clearout. i hope og stays and has more influence on who plays for him/us as i do think he can bring on the youngsters just a shame hes got an aging team to work with atm albionfan33
  • Score: 2

12:59pm Sun 30 Mar 14

tug509 says...

On the nail Far gull and Jonathan Mouette . UTA
On the nail Far gull and Jonathan Mouette . UTA tug509
  • Score: -2

1:01pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

tug509 wrote:
You pick the team and set the tactics ,and refuse point blank to change them if needed ie:No plan B ,you play one forward ,when sometimes we need two ,you play one winger when two are needed on our huge pitch,at one point yesterday after WB went off (Arnie) we had 8 defensive players on the pitch at once ,the normal 5 defence (inc TK) and 3 DMF Andrews Ince and JFC ,so exactly WHO`S MISTAKES ARE BEING PUNISHED ??.
Tug, JFC is NOT a defensive midfielder and never has been.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: You pick the team and set the tactics ,and refuse point blank to change them if needed ie:No plan B ,you play one forward ,when sometimes we need two ,you play one winger when two are needed on our huge pitch,at one point yesterday after WB went off (Arnie) we had 8 defensive players on the pitch at once ,the normal 5 defence (inc TK) and 3 DMF Andrews Ince and JFC ,so exactly WHO`S MISTAKES ARE BEING PUNISHED ??.[/p][/quote]Tug, JFC is NOT a defensive midfielder and never has been. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

1:03pm Sun 30 Mar 14

mikeygit says...

The overriding comment on here is PASSION--something I have been banging on about for a while. Oscar may have played for Barca but that does not make him a good manager--and IMHO he is not. May be a nice bloke but nice blokes do not necessarily make good managers. never seen him or a photo of him jumping up and down, either in frustration or joy. in todays modern game you need someone who can motivate players and get them playing out of their skin. I think those players who are out of contract will think long and hard before signing a new contract if they are offered one---smacks of Barnes who never signed his. however those same players may not find a new club that easy to come by with the way some have been playing. as has been said in a few posts, I am sure Tony has a few hard decisions to make over the next few months and lets hope when he does they are the right ones for BHA---we expect better having got this far with the Amex and the new Training Ground. Let this season be a reality check and a stepping stone for better things to come.
The overriding comment on here is PASSION--something I have been banging on about for a while. Oscar may have played for Barca but that does not make him a good manager--and IMHO he is not. May be a nice bloke but nice blokes do not necessarily make good managers. never seen him or a photo of him jumping up and down, either in frustration or joy. in todays modern game you need someone who can motivate players and get them playing out of their skin. I think those players who are out of contract will think long and hard before signing a new contract if they are offered one---smacks of Barnes who never signed his. however those same players may not find a new club that easy to come by with the way some have been playing. as has been said in a few posts, I am sure Tony has a few hard decisions to make over the next few months and lets hope when he does they are the right ones for BHA---we expect better having got this far with the Amex and the new Training Ground. Let this season be a reality check and a stepping stone for better things to come. mikeygit
  • Score: 3

1:06pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Eddy B wrote:
Main mistake was replacing Buckley with JFC. The penalty miss and Greer's mistakes are a bit of a smokescreen. Both teams had chances, it was an open game - we had the penalty, the Lingard one two, the David shot in the first 5 mins, but I'd say on balance Boro had more chances keeping TK the busiest of the goalies. But that's all a bit irrelevant - at the end of the day it is the team that scores most that wins and the better teams are better at scoring whatever the source of the chance.
Actually, replacing Buckley with JFC worked because moving David out wide allowed us to compete on equal terms in the middle. Seriously, other than the two goals gifted to Boro on the break TK was not troubled - all of his saves were comfortable ones from distance. Their keeper was the busier and made a quite superb save very early on and then another excellent one immediately prior to the penalty.

We were punished for making two sloppy errors at the back and not taking any of three/four excellent chances up front. This is not the fault of the tactics.

Talking of keepers though, why - when Boro went in the lead - was the away keeper allowed to keep the ball in his hands upwards of 15 seconds each and every time it came to him? The Law is 6 seconds, but I never see it applied.
[quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: Main mistake was replacing Buckley with JFC. The penalty miss and Greer's mistakes are a bit of a smokescreen. Both teams had chances, it was an open game - we had the penalty, the Lingard one two, the David shot in the first 5 mins, but I'd say on balance Boro had more chances keeping TK the busiest of the goalies. But that's all a bit irrelevant - at the end of the day it is the team that scores most that wins and the better teams are better at scoring whatever the source of the chance.[/p][/quote]Actually, replacing Buckley with JFC worked because moving David out wide allowed us to compete on equal terms in the middle. Seriously, other than the two goals gifted to Boro on the break TK was not troubled - all of his saves were comfortable ones from distance. Their keeper was the busier and made a quite superb save very early on and then another excellent one immediately prior to the penalty. We were punished for making two sloppy errors at the back and not taking any of three/four excellent chances up front. This is not the fault of the tactics. Talking of keepers though, why - when Boro went in the lead - was the away keeper allowed to keep the ball in his hands upwards of 15 seconds each and every time it came to him? The Law is 6 seconds, but I never see it applied. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

1:09pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Sun 30 Mar 14

mikeygit says...

One further thing--one positive out of this is that this article--as yet---has had´ no thumbs`` down so we all seem to be in agreement with the posts today/yesterday. I hope the board and management take note of the comments made by the fans here??
One further thing--one positive out of this is that this article--as yet---has had´ no thumbs`` down so we all seem to be in agreement with the posts today/yesterday. I hope the board and management take note of the comments made by the fans here?? mikeygit
  • Score: -4

1:24pm Sun 30 Mar 14

seegull fly in sky says...

Sine um plyers win gaimes goa up um leeg.
Sine um plyers win gaimes goa up um leeg. seegull fly in sky
  • Score: 3

2:06pm Sun 30 Mar 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 4

2:34pm Sun 30 Mar 14

The Bosch says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader. The Bosch
  • Score: -16

2:41pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

The Bosch wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
So you know the retained list? Please share it with us. In full.
Thanks
Oh and perhaps you'd let us know where TK and Ulloa are going as well.
Thanks again.
[quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.[/p][/quote]So you know the retained list? Please share it with us. In full. Thanks Oh and perhaps you'd let us know where TK and Ulloa are going as well. Thanks again. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -3

3:27pm Sun 30 Mar 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

The Bosch wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
Don't think there's any confirmation that they're off, although possible of course. These 'freeloaders' and 'lower league rubbish' you speak of, I think it may be more to do with Oscars tactics at times and a lack of options, mainly attacking options rather than a lack of quality. I think with a more attacking approach combined with some more attacking signings would see us get those extra wins we missed out on this season. There is the makings of a good squad here but we need that extra striker or two to take the pressure off Ulloa as has been said a million times this season. If Ulloa and TK were to leave I'm sure the funds raised would go to finding quality replacements anyway. It's frustrating but I wouldn't get so upset about it.
[quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.[/p][/quote]Don't think there's any confirmation that they're off, although possible of course. These 'freeloaders' and 'lower league rubbish' you speak of, I think it may be more to do with Oscars tactics at times and a lack of options, mainly attacking options rather than a lack of quality. I think with a more attacking approach combined with some more attacking signings would see us get those extra wins we missed out on this season. There is the makings of a good squad here but we need that extra striker or two to take the pressure off Ulloa as has been said a million times this season. If Ulloa and TK were to leave I'm sure the funds raised would go to finding quality replacements anyway. It's frustrating but I wouldn't get so upset about it. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 2

3:55pm Sun 30 Mar 14

tug509 says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
The Bosch wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
Don't think there's any confirmation that they're off, although possible of course. These 'freeloaders' and 'lower league rubbish' you speak of, I think it may be more to do with Oscars tactics at times and a lack of options, mainly attacking options rather than a lack of quality. I think with a more attacking approach combined with some more attacking signings would see us get those extra wins we missed out on this season. There is the makings of a good squad here but we need that extra striker or two to take the pressure off Ulloa as has been said a million times this season. If Ulloa and TK were to leave I'm sure the funds raised would go to finding quality replacements anyway. It's frustrating but I wouldn't get so upset about it.
I think we have had a few problems this season ,we were never going to be given the money we needed and were promised for signings,and even if we had been ,it would be some dross selected by Burke and not OG .Having said that ,what good would it do us to have several high quality signings ,if OG was not going to use them alongside the few quality lads we already have ,or change our tactics to better suit the team as a whole .
IMO there has been too much interference from Burke and NJ ,it all should be down to OG ,and if it has been ,then he has to take the flack ,and if it isn`t ,then why the heck not .
But as for Agustien ,unless we are not being told everything ,then he is the laziest waste of money i can ever remember us signing .
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.[/p][/quote]Don't think there's any confirmation that they're off, although possible of course. These 'freeloaders' and 'lower league rubbish' you speak of, I think it may be more to do with Oscars tactics at times and a lack of options, mainly attacking options rather than a lack of quality. I think with a more attacking approach combined with some more attacking signings would see us get those extra wins we missed out on this season. There is the makings of a good squad here but we need that extra striker or two to take the pressure off Ulloa as has been said a million times this season. If Ulloa and TK were to leave I'm sure the funds raised would go to finding quality replacements anyway. It's frustrating but I wouldn't get so upset about it.[/p][/quote]I think we have had a few problems this season ,we were never going to be given the money we needed and were promised for signings,and even if we had been ,it would be some dross selected by Burke and not OG .Having said that ,what good would it do us to have several high quality signings ,if OG was not going to use them alongside the few quality lads we already have ,or change our tactics to better suit the team as a whole . IMO there has been too much interference from Burke and NJ ,it all should be down to OG ,and if it has been ,then he has to take the flack ,and if it isn`t ,then why the heck not . But as for Agustien ,unless we are not being told everything ,then he is the laziest waste of money i can ever remember us signing . tug509
  • Score: 6

4:03pm Sun 30 Mar 14

hongkong_seagull says...

I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!! hongkong_seagull
  • Score: 2

4:26pm Sun 30 Mar 14

tug509 says...

hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?.
[quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?. tug509
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Sun 30 Mar 14

oscar must go says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Has he spotted any that you can tell us all about?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Has he spotted any that you can tell us all about? oscar must go
  • Score: 4

4:40pm Sun 30 Mar 14

leafletman says...

I agree but my fears are they will not do anything until the season is over we have got a chance to get in the play offs get rid of this idiot before its too late .
great stadium
great training ground
great club
for a mid table championship club who cannot attract players.
manager who has no tactical know how .
i love this club why can it not be run correctly from the top
down .
paying £30 - £40
parking £13
highest gate of the league
and yet smallest budget
RUBBISH and why is it the board go quiet about this
I agree but my fears are they will not do anything until the season is over we have got a chance to get in the play offs get rid of this idiot before its too late . great stadium great training ground great club for a mid table championship club who cannot attract players. manager who has no tactical know how . i love this club why can it not be run correctly from the top down . paying £30 - £40 parking £13 highest gate of the league and yet smallest budget RUBBISH and why is it the board go quiet about this leafletman
  • Score: 5

4:40pm Sun 30 Mar 14

brighton bluenose says...

The Bosch wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
Christ you talk absolute shyte - for starters Ulloa has 2.5 years of a 4 year contract left so why on earth is he 'off'?!!
[quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.[/p][/quote]Christ you talk absolute shyte - for starters Ulloa has 2.5 years of a 4 year contract left so why on earth is he 'off'?!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 4

5:06pm Sun 30 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club. ringtone
  • Score: -2

7:22pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Far gull says...

tug509 wrote:
hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?.
Hong kong. With respect and given i assume you are in Hong Kong. You needed to have sat though yesterdays game and a couple of home games apart the rest of this season at home to understand where some of us 'wingers ' are coming from .
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?.[/p][/quote]Hong kong. With respect and given i assume you are in Hong Kong. You needed to have sat though yesterdays game and a couple of home games apart the rest of this season at home to understand where some of us 'wingers ' are coming from . Far gull
  • Score: 1

7:24pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

oscar must go wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Has he spotted any that you can tell us all about?
Who knows who he has spotted? The actual recruitment of them is not in his remit. The point is NONE of us know how good or otherwise Mervyn Day is at his job, so all is mere speculation.
[quote][p][bold]oscar must go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Has he spotted any that you can tell us all about?[/p][/quote]Who knows who he has spotted? The actual recruitment of them is not in his remit. The point is NONE of us know how good or otherwise Mervyn Day is at his job, so all is mere speculation. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

7:25pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

leafletman wrote:
I agree but my fears are they will not do anything until the season is over we have got a chance to get in the play offs get rid of this idiot before its too late .
great stadium
great training ground
great club
for a mid table championship club who cannot attract players.
manager who has no tactical know how .
i love this club why can it not be run correctly from the top
down .
paying £30 - £40
parking £13
highest gate of the league
and yet smallest budget
RUBBISH and why is it the board go quiet about this
I can't believe you haven't yet heard of FFP. The board have in fact been quite vocal about this, so maybe you should look a little harder?
[quote][p][bold]leafletman[/bold] wrote: I agree but my fears are they will not do anything until the season is over we have got a chance to get in the play offs get rid of this idiot before its too late . great stadium great training ground great club for a mid table championship club who cannot attract players. manager who has no tactical know how . i love this club why can it not be run correctly from the top down . paying £30 - £40 parking £13 highest gate of the league and yet smallest budget RUBBISH and why is it the board go quiet about this[/p][/quote]I can't believe you haven't yet heard of FFP. The board have in fact been quite vocal about this, so maybe you should look a little harder? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
Listen very carefully, I will say sis only wernce....
The game is full of top quality scouts who never played the game at the top level, so to chastise Mervyn Day because you think he wasn't 'supremely gifted' is irrelevant, pathetic and not worthy of further comment.
If people want to assess professional quality on the basis of blind perception then count me out. But if you want to discuss a genuine way forward on the basis of what we genuinely know, please let me know.
I'm fed up with people like Ringpiece spouting generic b*ll@cks without any real knowledge to back it up. We all have opinions, but just because Sir Richard Branson has never been successful with another company, doesn't mean he's not capable of running his Virgin empire.
We are Brighton, not Manchester City. We are Championship, not Premiership and we are building, not repairing.
Get with the programme.
Thanks
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]Listen very carefully, I will say sis only wernce.... The game is full of top quality scouts who never played the game at the top level, so to chastise Mervyn Day because you think he wasn't 'supremely gifted' is irrelevant, pathetic and not worthy of further comment. If people want to assess professional quality on the basis of blind perception then count me out. But if you want to discuss a genuine way forward on the basis of what we genuinely know, please let me know. I'm fed up with people like Ringpiece spouting generic b*ll@cks without any real knowledge to back it up. We all have opinions, but just because Sir Richard Branson has never been successful with another company, doesn't mean he's not capable of running his Virgin empire. We are Brighton, not Manchester City. We are Championship, not Premiership and we are building, not repairing. Get with the programme. Thanks Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 9

7:58pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Mancgulled says...

On a more positive note - just watched the football league show online - Millwall were very unfortunate not to beat Blackburn and Hanley was sent off so he won't be there on Tuesday night. Couldn't see that Caskey got in Lingards way at the match yesterday - but very unfortunate - that and the missed penalty - not our day - hopefully Tuesday night will be - and I don't care about making the playoffs just want to listen to Warren commentating enthusiastically because we will be playing much better footy ....
On a more positive note - just watched the football league show online - Millwall were very unfortunate not to beat Blackburn and Hanley was sent off so he won't be there on Tuesday night. Couldn't see that Caskey got in Lingards way at the match yesterday - but very unfortunate - that and the missed penalty - not our day - hopefully Tuesday night will be - and I don't care about making the playoffs just want to listen to Warren commentating enthusiastically because we will be playing much better footy .... Mancgulled
  • Score: 2

8:51pm Sun 30 Mar 14

ballantrrae says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

8:54pm Sun 30 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Can we have a reality check please
Yes the last 3 games have been very disappointing
We created enough chances to have beaten Ipswich.
We were unlucky to lose to Sheff Wed
Yesterday we were rubbish.......

But prior to those games, the previous 8 league matches saw
5 wins, 2 draws & a very unlucky defeat to Wigan.

If we win our game in hand on tuesday we will be just 1 point off 6th place.
With 7 games to go there is still a chance of the play offs.

I am not exactly optimistic that we will win on tuesday, but I am, and always will be an Albion fan.
I live in hope........ The glass is ALWAYS half full.
UTA
Can we have a reality check please Yes the last 3 games have been very disappointing We created enough chances to have beaten Ipswich. We were unlucky to lose to Sheff Wed Yesterday we were rubbish....... But prior to those games, the previous 8 league matches saw 5 wins, 2 draws & a very unlucky defeat to Wigan. If we win our game in hand on tuesday we will be just 1 point off 6th place. With 7 games to go there is still a chance of the play offs. I am not exactly optimistic that we will win on tuesday, but I am, and always will be an Albion fan. I live in hope........ The glass is ALWAYS half full. UTA OldGull
  • Score: 6

9:10pm Sun 30 Mar 14

gordongull says...

''Our mistakes are being punished.''
I thought for a moment that Oscar was accepting some of the responsibility!!
But no, he was targeting his players.
No acknowledgment that his policies might not be working.
It is as if nothing exists outside the closed universe of 'Oscarball'
''Our mistakes are being punished.'' I thought for a moment that Oscar was accepting some of the responsibility!! But no, he was targeting his players. No acknowledgment that his policies might not be working. It is as if nothing exists outside the closed universe of 'Oscarball' gordongull
  • Score: -1

9:57pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

10:08pm Sun 30 Mar 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football.

Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today.

Jobs for the Boys.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football. Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today. Jobs for the Boys. ringtone
  • Score: 0

10:10pm Sun 30 Mar 14

OldGull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed.

Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll

Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade

UTA
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)[/p][/quote]I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed. Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade UTA OldGull
  • Score: 3

10:10pm Sun 30 Mar 14

starlion says...

oscar must go wrote:
Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like

OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too.

Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need?

SACK THEM ALL, NOW.
Or look at runaway league leaders Leicester who beat runaway second placed Burnley - who we comfortably beat 3-1 earlier in the season. Though I agree we will struggle up there on current form......
[quote][p][bold]oscar must go[/bold] wrote: Just turned on hoping for some breaking news like OSCAR and JONES Sacked. BURKE and DAY go too. Chairman Bloom must have had to make some tough decisions whilst building his business empire so will be au fait with replacing people who are not up to their jobs. He really must act now, before this all becomes a train wreck!! Look at yesterday's results. Sheffield Weds beaten 4-1 at home by mid table Watford. We could not hardly muster a shot let alone a goal on Tuesday. Ipswich held at home by a Forest team that has not won in nine but who came to the AMEX and strolled to victory. Three games now without a goal and with 3 away games to come the situation is bleak. Barnsley next Saturday who hit 4 at Yeovil where we did not have a single on target strike. How much more evidence does Bloom need? SACK THEM ALL, NOW.[/p][/quote]Or look at runaway league leaders Leicester who beat runaway second placed Burnley - who we comfortably beat 3-1 earlier in the season. Though I agree we will struggle up there on current form...... starlion
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Sun 30 Mar 14

ringtone says...

hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
You wont catch me saying we are world beaters if we win a game in this rubbish league.

Some of us possess a brain.
[quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]You wont catch me saying we are world beaters if we win a game in this rubbish league. Some of us possess a brain. ringtone
  • Score: -1

10:34pm Sun 30 Mar 14

gordongull says...

OldGull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed.

Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll

Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade

UTA
Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)[/p][/quote]I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed. Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade UTA[/p][/quote]Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football? gordongull
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
You wont catch me saying we are world beaters if we win a game in this rubbish league.

Some of us possess a brain.
Yeah, but some of us have also used ours.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]You wont catch me saying we are world beaters if we win a game in this rubbish league. Some of us possess a brain.[/p][/quote]Yeah, but some of us have also used ours. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

10:51pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
OldGull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed.

Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll

Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade

UTA
Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?
We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)[/p][/quote]I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed. Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade UTA[/p][/quote]Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?[/p][/quote]We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

10:55pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football.

Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today.

Jobs for the Boys.
A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced.

Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook.

However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football. Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today. Jobs for the Boys.[/p][/quote]A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced. Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook. However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

11:26pm Sun 30 Mar 14

gordongull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football.

Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today.

Jobs for the Boys.
A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced.

Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook.

However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed.
Mervyn Day was good but he was always some way down the list for an England cap. It wasn't just Shilton and Clemence. Phil Parkes, Chris Woods, and others were also ahead of him.
There seems to be little evidence that his scouting has produced any worthwhile results. His wages are tying up money that could probably be put to better use elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football. Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today. Jobs for the Boys.[/p][/quote]A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced. Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook. However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed.[/p][/quote]Mervyn Day was good but he was always some way down the list for an England cap. It wasn't just Shilton and Clemence. Phil Parkes, Chris Woods, and others were also ahead of him. There seems to be little evidence that his scouting has produced any worthwhile results. His wages are tying up money that could probably be put to better use elsewhere. gordongull
  • Score: -3

11:48pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Zamora251 says...

Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, becausTony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next
Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, becausTony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next Zamora251
  • Score: 2

11:50pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Zamora251 says...

Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, because I love my home town club, please take note Tony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next season
Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, because I love my home town club, please take note Tony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next season Zamora251
  • Score: 3

12:15am Mon 31 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

gordongull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football.

Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today.

Jobs for the Boys.
A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced.

Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook.

However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed.
Mervyn Day was good but he was always some way down the list for an England cap. It wasn't just Shilton and Clemence. Phil Parkes, Chris Woods, and others were also ahead of him.
There seems to be little evidence that his scouting has produced any worthwhile results. His wages are tying up money that could probably be put to better use elsewhere.
If we weren't spending money on Mervyn Day we'd be spending it on another chief scout. My point is (and I'll make it again) that we don't know if he is bad at his job. He has no control over who we bring in, he's in charge of checking out players, and not just their technical ability, but their personality, attitude, home life etc. Obviously it's not the kind of job you will be 100%, but to say he's not good enough without any evidence whatsoever is a nonsense.

He may be rubbish, he may be brilliant. There's no way to know as we don't see him in action.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football. Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today. Jobs for the Boys.[/p][/quote]A better goalkeeper than any current English keeper other than Joe Hart. If Day had been around now he'd be an England squad regular. He was just an unfortunate victim of being around at the same time as Shilton and Clemence, two of the three greatest keepers this country ever produced. Interesting that you also denigrate keepers as effectively being talentless... but then that's straight out of the Trolling for Beginners Chewable Handbook. However, none of this is relevant as the poster above claimed that Day was a rubbish scout despite knowing literally nothing about his scouting abilities. Case closed.[/p][/quote]Mervyn Day was good but he was always some way down the list for an England cap. It wasn't just Shilton and Clemence. Phil Parkes, Chris Woods, and others were also ahead of him. There seems to be little evidence that his scouting has produced any worthwhile results. His wages are tying up money that could probably be put to better use elsewhere.[/p][/quote]If we weren't spending money on Mervyn Day we'd be spending it on another chief scout. My point is (and I'll make it again) that we don't know if he is bad at his job. He has no control over who we bring in, he's in charge of checking out players, and not just their technical ability, but their personality, attitude, home life etc. Obviously it's not the kind of job you will be 100%, but to say he's not good enough without any evidence whatsoever is a nonsense. He may be rubbish, he may be brilliant. There's no way to know as we don't see him in action. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

12:21am Mon 31 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Zamora251 wrote:
Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, because I love my home town club, please take note Tony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next season
Yeah, if only OG and jones could see what you see from the sidelines. I mean, he's working with the players day in, day out, how could he possibly know what the problems are?

(tongue-in-cheek-mod
e OFF)

Seriously, anyone who thinks they have a better idea of what is wrong than the professionals needs a reality check. OG cannot control where Ulloa strikes a penalty, he is not in control of Greer's balance or touch. We are creating chances and not taking them.

We miss Crofts. We miss Orlandi. We miss David's form of last season. We miss Buckley tearing up the wing. We miss Barnes's industry. We miss Bridcutt's calm mopping-up. These things are not OG's fault.

He's not the finished article, of course he's not, but it's a long-term job, and next season I am certain we shall see the fruits of his labour and we will all be wondering what we were worrying about. A clear out and a pre-season will make a massive difference. Look at the difference between Gus's first and second seasons. We only finished 10th with him when we got promoted yet not everyone was calling for his head (or whomever was the scapegoat in any given week).
[quote][p][bold]Zamora251[/bold] wrote: Garcia and Jones have to go, they are simply in over their heads, they clearly have no idea what they are doing, last season Albion scored 69 goals, this season they have scored 39 goals with 9 games left, they need proven goalscorers, why is it, the fans can see it and the management can't, I am a season ticket holder at the Amex and have renewed for next season, because I love my home town club, please take note Tony Bloom, get in Malky McKay because HE will get Brighton promoted next season and he knows the Championship, Garcia doesn't and I really cant see Garcia improving next season[/p][/quote]Yeah, if only OG and jones could see what you see from the sidelines. I mean, he's working with the players day in, day out, how could he possibly know what the problems are? (tongue-in-cheek-mod e OFF) Seriously, anyone who thinks they have a better idea of what is wrong than the professionals needs a reality check. OG cannot control where Ulloa strikes a penalty, he is not in control of Greer's balance or touch. We are creating chances and not taking them. We miss Crofts. We miss Orlandi. We miss David's form of last season. We miss Buckley tearing up the wing. We miss Barnes's industry. We miss Bridcutt's calm mopping-up. These things are not OG's fault. He's not the finished article, of course he's not, but it's a long-term job, and next season I am certain we shall see the fruits of his labour and we will all be wondering what we were worrying about. A clear out and a pre-season will make a massive difference. Look at the difference between Gus's first and second seasons. We only finished 10th with him when we got promoted yet not everyone was calling for his head (or whomever was the scapegoat in any given week). Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

1:54am Mon 31 Mar 14

The Bosch says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
The Bosch wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.
Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.
Christ you talk absolute shyte - for starters Ulloa has 2.5 years of a 4 year contract left so why on earth is he 'off'?!!
Because you child Palace already made a offer of 5 million.The club will not make the same mistake again and let him go on a free like Murray.Or lets hope not anyway.Thats the reason Barnes left.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: Thought we might see a response yesterday after the previous 2 defeats but it never really got going, it seems we're plodding towards the seasons end when there was hope of a real push for the play offs. A gentleman sat behind me was discussing with his son the prospect of getting season tickets at Chelsea next season because they wanted to see entertaining football and the premier league and europes top names. I hope this isn't being repeated on a wide scale as attendance and revenue will drop off, although I did read that season tickets for the Albion have already hit high numbers for next season. If there isn't fresh impetus next season though I think that many of the current fan base will start to drift away, along with the Amex opening came new support and keen expectation, keeping hold of the 'newbies' is going to be the challenge over the summer and next season. We could still go up this season of course but there's an overwhelming feeling that we're happy to let it just fizzle out with increasingly flat performances lately. Even Ulloa doesn't look focused, judging by his miss yesterday. I will support no matter what along with thousands of others, but some vitality and energy needs to be injected into the playing squad without doubt.[/p][/quote]Players like TK & Ulloa already no they are off lets face it.The other freeloaders got their wish more free money for doing nothing.That joke of lower league rubbish would be taken apart in the Prem-league.About time the Argus asked the club about that vile freeloader Agustien again.Talk about a vile freeloader.[/p][/quote]Christ you talk absolute shyte - for starters Ulloa has 2.5 years of a 4 year contract left so why on earth is he 'off'?!![/p][/quote]Because you child Palace already made a offer of 5 million.The club will not make the same mistake again and let him go on a free like Murray.Or lets hope not anyway.Thats the reason Barnes left. The Bosch
  • Score: 0

1:54am Mon 31 Mar 14

hongkong_seagull says...

tug509 wrote:
hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?.
Hi Tug
Some of the posts are valid but they are few and far between. What is so frustrating is that there is so much shortsightedness and impatience. We are 9th in the Championship, not 19th in League 2. I am sure like me you remember the bad old days of the 90s finishing 91st two seasons in a row, laying at Gillingham and the theatre of trees. Given the disruption of the summer and the most horrendous season in my memory for long term injuries to key players (excluding the back four) the season has not been as bad as so many on here talk about. The fact that so many seem to think they can solve everything with 'passion' and an 'up and at em' approach, plus 'play the wingers' or 'attack, attack, attack' (remember Ossie Ardiles?) shows how little expertise and perspective is displayed by the commenters. We all know we don't score enough goals but lets see some intelligent and balanced discussion, not the banal diatribes of those who think they know it all but show a single minded cluelessness and negativity that belies the word 'supporter'!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]Did you enjoy your blah blah boring whinge ,has it occurred to you that some of the points on this site are highly valid ,and the diversity definitely shows great perspective ,but what would we know about intelligence and realism ?.[/p][/quote]Hi Tug Some of the posts are valid but they are few and far between. What is so frustrating is that there is so much shortsightedness and impatience. We are 9th in the Championship, not 19th in League 2. I am sure like me you remember the bad old days of the 90s finishing 91st two seasons in a row, laying at Gillingham and the theatre of trees. Given the disruption of the summer and the most horrendous season in my memory for long term injuries to key players (excluding the back four) the season has not been as bad as so many on here talk about. The fact that so many seem to think they can solve everything with 'passion' and an 'up and at em' approach, plus 'play the wingers' or 'attack, attack, attack' (remember Ossie Ardiles?) shows how little expertise and perspective is displayed by the commenters. We all know we don't score enough goals but lets see some intelligent and balanced discussion, not the banal diatribes of those who think they know it all but show a single minded cluelessness and negativity that belies the word 'supporter'! hongkong_seagull
  • Score: 0

2:07am Mon 31 Mar 14

The Bosch says...

hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
And you are not boring lol haha.Your post gets not one thumbs up lol. You should read some other sites today.Some fans even saying their kids are crying at games now its so bad.OG AND HIS STAFF ARE VILE NOTHINGS JUST LIKE HINSH WAS.Just working in the game because of their mason contacts.What a great job that also did at Crawley & Portsmouth lol haha.Lets be honest OG & Jones didn't even know each other b4.The suits were just looking for 2 yes men.
[quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]And you are not boring lol haha.Your post gets not one thumbs up lol. You should read some other sites today.Some fans even saying their kids are crying at games now its so bad.OG AND HIS STAFF ARE VILE NOTHINGS JUST LIKE HINSH WAS.Just working in the game because of their mason contacts.What a great job that also did at Crawley & Portsmouth lol haha.Lets be honest OG & Jones didn't even know each other b4.The suits were just looking for 2 yes men. The Bosch
  • Score: -2

2:11am Mon 31 Mar 14

The Bosch says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Our mistakes are being punished...
1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions...
2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece...
3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?)
4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team...
Need I go on...
The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...
What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?
Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke.

This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.
The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes.

And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?
I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football.

Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today.

Jobs for the Boys.
100% correct my friend.He goes 2 one game for once and thinks he has the right to let fans what to think.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Our mistakes are being punished... 1st mistake: Appointing Burke to make key recruiting decisions... 2nd mistake : Appointing Jones to act as Burke's mouthpiece... 3rd mistake : Having a scouting team run by Mervyn Day... (really?) 4th mistake : Not allowing OG to have full control of the team... Need I go on... The trouble is that TB cannot see who has been assuming total control over all this... Barber. When he and Burke have gone things will slowly start to improve...[/p][/quote]What do you mean by "Mervyn Day... (really?)" Do you think that someone who was a supremely gifted player in his day cannot spot ability in others?[/p][/quote]Mervyn day supremely gifted, what a joke. This quote proves you are part of some masonic influence that is established in the club.[/p][/quote]The fact you don't know how good a player Day was speaks volumes. And well done with the "masonic" comment - anything original to say, something that hasn't already been vomited by Freeloaders?[/p][/quote]I think you should inform everybody that Mr Day was infact a very average (never capped) goalkeeper, yes the position you get when cant play football. Probably part of the reason there is so little talent in the team today. Jobs for the Boys.[/p][/quote]100% correct my friend.He goes 2 one game for once and thinks he has the right to let fans what to think. The Bosch
  • Score: -1

2:27am Mon 31 Mar 14

The Bosch says...

Ex-pat i go off this site and you make 13 posts taking the site over with your pure rubbish after going to watch one game for once.Does the fact your posts above get not one thumbs up not tell you something? You should have read some other sites yesterday.Some fans even saying their kids are falling asleep at games,and even crying."Something which i have seen at games." I would say a good part of the fans are sick of the jobs for the boys group you are clear part of now."Ive been watching Brighton almost 40 years now and that team and football is dire.Thats why so many walked out.Does that not tell you most fans don't think like you? Or that thousands don't turn up even when they have already paid for their seats.The place looked half empty on Saturday.
Ex-pat i go off this site and you make 13 posts taking the site over with your pure rubbish after going to watch one game for once.Does the fact your posts above get not one thumbs up not tell you something? You should have read some other sites yesterday.Some fans even saying their kids are falling asleep at games,and even crying."Something which i have seen at games." I would say a good part of the fans are sick of the jobs for the boys group you are clear part of now."Ive been watching Brighton almost 40 years now and that team and football is dire.Thats why so many walked out.Does that not tell you most fans don't think like you? Or that thousands don't turn up even when they have already paid for their seats.The place looked half empty on Saturday. The Bosch
  • Score: -1

4:08am Mon 31 Mar 14

hongkong_seagull says...

The Bosch wrote:
hongkong_seagull wrote:
I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair.
UTA!!!!
And you are not boring lol haha.Your post gets not one thumbs up lol. You should read some other sites today.Some fans even saying their kids are crying at games now its so bad.OG AND HIS STAFF ARE VILE NOTHINGS JUST LIKE HINSH WAS.Just working in the game because of their mason contacts.What a great job that also did at Crawley & Portsmouth lol haha.Lets be honest OG & Jones didn't even know each other b4.The suits were just looking for 2 yes men.
Yawn. Q.E.D.
[quote][p][bold]The Bosch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hongkong_seagull[/bold] wrote: I so love reading the whingers with axes to grind. Sack this, get rid of that, they are all ****, blah blah blah blah. Boring.... Lose, we are rubbish and win, we are world beaters. If anyone is here searching for perspective, intelligence or realism, they just won't find it. I despair. UTA!!!![/p][/quote]And you are not boring lol haha.Your post gets not one thumbs up lol. You should read some other sites today.Some fans even saying their kids are crying at games now its so bad.OG AND HIS STAFF ARE VILE NOTHINGS JUST LIKE HINSH WAS.Just working in the game because of their mason contacts.What a great job that also did at Crawley & Portsmouth lol haha.Lets be honest OG & Jones didn't even know each other b4.The suits were just looking for 2 yes men.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Q.E.D. hongkong_seagull
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Mon 31 Mar 14

ballantrrae says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
OldGull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed.

Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll

Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade

UTA
Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?
We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack.
Ex-pat Arnie one of the main points I was trying to make on my original post (but obviously didn't succeed in doing) was to highlight the number of chances we are MISSING. We don't win points based on the number of chances created or passes we made but Goals we score. Indeed some of our best results have come when we have been under the cosh and created relatively few opportunities eg the Home game against QPR.
Oscar has consistently said we need to be more clinical but for whatever reason Burke and his team have not provided him with the resource to remedy this although to be fair the club did try to sign Grabban which might have helped had he joined.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)[/p][/quote]I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed. Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade UTA[/p][/quote]Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?[/p][/quote]We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack.[/p][/quote]Ex-pat Arnie one of the main points I was trying to make on my original post (but obviously didn't succeed in doing) was to highlight the number of chances we are MISSING. We don't win points based on the number of chances created or passes we made but Goals we score. Indeed some of our best results have come when we have been under the cosh and created relatively few opportunities eg the Home game against QPR. Oscar has consistently said we need to be more clinical but for whatever reason Burke and his team have not provided him with the resource to remedy this although to be fair the club did try to sign Grabban which might have helped had he joined. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
gordongull wrote:
OldGull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.
Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility.
He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective.
In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more !
Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0.
As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from.
I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar.
With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt
So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that.

It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track.

Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet.

(And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)
I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed.

Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll

Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade

UTA
Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?
We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack.
Ex-pat Arnie one of the main points I was trying to make on my original post (but obviously didn't succeed in doing) was to highlight the number of chances we are MISSING. We don't win points based on the number of chances created or passes we made but Goals we score. Indeed some of our best results have come when we have been under the cosh and created relatively few opportunities eg the Home game against QPR.
Oscar has consistently said we need to be more clinical but for whatever reason Burke and his team have not provided him with the resource to remedy this although to be fair the club did try to sign Grabban which might have helped had he joined.
There is little that can be done by OG to make the team more clinical. That is down to the players, but he will have a different set of players to choose from next season.

We just need some luck in front of goal - if the Boro keeper hadn't made a great save very early on, or if the goal-bound shot hadn't smacked Ulloa in the face, if the penalty had gone in etc etc etc... the rub of the green will come our way soon and I wouldn't be surprised if the next game we score in will see us score three.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: Feeble words following feeble football. Clueless comes to mind - sadly! I really thought Oscar was going to work but the lack of passion is starting to grate, apart from the lack of different ideas. Heaven knows where it goes from here.[/p][/quote]Willie Irvine I too am (sadly) beginning to have the same thoughts about Oscar and his apparent lack of passion and lack of flexibility. He has achieved a lot as a Coach (but not perhaps as a Manager) this season in difficult circumstances witness his development of Ince, JFC and March. However he seems to be too fixed on statistics and not results from a performance perspective. In Saturday's Argus he was quoted as saying that we had made more passes in the last two games (Ipswich & Wednesday) than we had in any other games this season. That's great but I thought the object was to score more Goals than the other side not just pass more ! Talking of statistics in our last two home games we had 65% possession against Ipswich and 63% against Middlesbrough and still managed to contrive to lose both 2-0. As others have said we are creating loads of chances but what concerns me is that we are missing most of them. Through most of the season Oscar has said we need to 'be more clinical' but nothing has changed. In fact with Crofts out other than Ulloa (penalties apart) one can't quite see where the goals are going to come from. I feel for Oscar since I don't really believe he has received the right sort of support from David Burke and wonder if he is the 'right' kind of Manager to work with Burke. It may well be that Burke is not the right type of Head of Football to work with Oscar. With these thoughts in mind I suspect that TB, PB and the Board are going to have some interesting and important decisions to make. Whether or not we reach the play-offs this season the whole of the last 12 months need to be carefully analysed and lessons learnt[/p][/quote]So, we're passing more than ever, have more possession than ever and are creating loads of chances. The only missing thing is the finishing, and the players have to take responsibility for that. It seems to me that OG's tactics are not the problem, rather it's a lack of confidence or ability in front of goal. I would be concerned if we were not passing, or if we were conceding possession, or not creating chances, but lacking that clinical finishing - that can easily change, often with a small change in luck. We need a flukey goal, or a clanger from the opposition, then I think we'll be back on track. Very recently we'd won what, 5 out of 7? Add these three defeats and that's still a win every other game. It's too early to start worrying just yet. (And that ends the broadcast of the positive thinking corporation.)[/p][/quote]I was beginning to think I was one of a dying breed. Obviously the insidious negativity on this site was beginning to take it's toll Long Live the Glass Half Full brigade UTA[/p][/quote]Could it be a reflection of the insidious negativity of the football?[/p][/quote]We're creating 15-25 chances per game. If that's negative then we'd better strap ourselves down if we ever decide to attack.[/p][/quote]Ex-pat Arnie one of the main points I was trying to make on my original post (but obviously didn't succeed in doing) was to highlight the number of chances we are MISSING. We don't win points based on the number of chances created or passes we made but Goals we score. Indeed some of our best results have come when we have been under the cosh and created relatively few opportunities eg the Home game against QPR. Oscar has consistently said we need to be more clinical but for whatever reason Burke and his team have not provided him with the resource to remedy this although to be fair the club did try to sign Grabban which might have helped had he joined.[/p][/quote]There is little that can be done by OG to make the team more clinical. That is down to the players, but he will have a different set of players to choose from next season. We just need some luck in front of goal - if the Boro keeper hadn't made a great save very early on, or if the goal-bound shot hadn't smacked Ulloa in the face, if the penalty had gone in etc etc etc... the rub of the green will come our way soon and I wouldn't be surprised if the next game we score in will see us score three. Ex-pat Arnie
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