Albion boss refuses to give up on place in Premier League

Oscar Garcia chases an unlikely double tonight

Oscar Garcia chases an unlikely double tonight

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

ALBION boss Oscar Garcia has refused to give up on joining Leicester in the Premier League as the Seagulls attempt to complete an unlikely double tonight against the promoted leaders.

The Spaniard has not thrown in the towel, despite his side falling five points adrift of the play-offs after five games without a win.

Oscar told The Argus: "We have to believe that we can pick a lot of points up between now and the end of the season.

"It has been a difficult season in terms of injured players and a lot of things but we mustn't give up. We have to keep going.”

Leicester have surged to promotion with 15 wins and six draws in a 21-match unbeaten run since Albion defeated them 3-1 at the Amex in December.

The Seagulls are the only side left with the chance of beating them twice but Oscar expects no easing of the throttle by the Foxes, with a maximum ten points needed from their final six games to clinch the title.

He said: “They have showed they are and have been the best team in the League and that's why they will be playing in the Premier League.

“They have been very strong in defence. It's so difficult to create chances against them. They have key players up front, on the flanks and also in midfield.

“Drinkwater, for me, is the best midfielder in the division. He can do everything - get into the box, create chances, defend - the quality and ability to do everything you need from a midfielder.

“They have threats up front, a lot of players that can play different styles, and they have showed a lot of determination. It's not easy to go unbeaten for 21 games.

“We have showed we can beat anyone and we'll try to do it again. It won't be easy, because we are playing away, but we have to show character and go there and have a go.”

Rohan Ince, back in training after a dead leg, could rejoin former Leicester loanee Jesse Lingard in Albion's starting line-up.

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6:32am Tue 8 Apr 14

namgo49 says...

Why would we want to be promoted when we have the mouthwatering prospect of Gus' less than triumphant return to the Amex with his relegated Sunderland side next season! That is if he has not been sacked by then which is more than likely.
Why would we want to be promoted when we have the mouthwatering prospect of Gus' less than triumphant return to the Amex with his relegated Sunderland side next season! That is if he has not been sacked by then which is more than likely. namgo49
  • Score: 2

7:00am Tue 8 Apr 14

pte says...

namgo49 wrote:
Why would we want to be promoted when we have the mouthwatering prospect of Gus' less than triumphant return to the Amex with his relegated Sunderland side next season! That is if he has not been sacked by then which is more than likely.
I think Sunderland have reached a glass ceiling and gus has taken them as far as they can go. Therefore, he will be off if not his potential return to the Amex is more incentive to get promoted.

With so many points to play for it would be silly to give up now
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: Why would we want to be promoted when we have the mouthwatering prospect of Gus' less than triumphant return to the Amex with his relegated Sunderland side next season! That is if he has not been sacked by then which is more than likely.[/p][/quote]I think Sunderland have reached a glass ceiling and gus has taken them as far as they can go. Therefore, he will be off if not his potential return to the Amex is more incentive to get promoted. With so many points to play for it would be silly to give up now pte
  • Score: 12

7:23am Tue 8 Apr 14

Far gull says...

Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years?
Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.?
Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season !
Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years? Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.? Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season ! Far gull
  • Score: 6

7:35am Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Far gull wrote:
Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years?
Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.?
Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season !
Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench.
Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em.
Anyway, onwards with OG.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years? Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.? Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season ![/p][/quote]Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench. Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em. Anyway, onwards with OG. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 17

7:42am Tue 8 Apr 14

albionbloke says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years?
Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.?
Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season !
Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench.
Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em.
Anyway, onwards with OG.
It was delightful to watch them get thrashed. As for that idiot Tarrico slumped in his chair....I'm sure Sunderland fans must be asking themselves why he's been hired. What a disgusting example of apathy. Just waiting for Poyet's string of excuses for his failure. As far as I'm concerned he's getting all he deserves.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years? Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.? Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season ![/p][/quote]Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench. Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em. Anyway, onwards with OG.[/p][/quote]It was delightful to watch them get thrashed. As for that idiot Tarrico slumped in his chair....I'm sure Sunderland fans must be asking themselves why he's been hired. What a disgusting example of apathy. Just waiting for Poyet's string of excuses for his failure. As far as I'm concerned he's getting all he deserves. albionbloke
  • Score: 19

7:50am Tue 8 Apr 14

russellsnr2 says...

Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!! russellsnr2
  • Score: 13

7:59am Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

albionbloke wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Far gull wrote:
Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years?
Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.?
Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season !
Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench.
Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em.
Anyway, onwards with OG.
It was delightful to watch them get thrashed. As for that idiot Tarrico slumped in his chair....I'm sure Sunderland fans must be asking themselves why he's been hired. What a disgusting example of apathy. Just waiting for Poyet's string of excuses for his failure. As far as I'm concerned he's getting all he deserves.
Correct. Tarrico's display was a very poor signal to fans who'll care deeply about their plight. At the very least The Chairman should he shown that and should make it clear he expects the club and it's fans to be shown some respect..
And with that thought, we're right back to last summer........
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Itz complicated this style of football with Gus . Thought Bridders looked completely lost last night and out of his depth. Not half the player he was here for two years? Wonder what went wrong for him apart from injury this season.? Can you imagine what a boring game v sunderland next season ![/p][/quote]Agree. Bridcutt looked lost and Taino looked as though he didn't give a whatsit while slouched on the bench. Can't say I felt sorry for any of 'em. Anyway, onwards with OG.[/p][/quote]It was delightful to watch them get thrashed. As for that idiot Tarrico slumped in his chair....I'm sure Sunderland fans must be asking themselves why he's been hired. What a disgusting example of apathy. Just waiting for Poyet's string of excuses for his failure. As far as I'm concerned he's getting all he deserves.[/p][/quote]Correct. Tarrico's display was a very poor signal to fans who'll care deeply about their plight. At the very least The Chairman should he shown that and should make it clear he expects the club and it's fans to be shown some respect.. And with that thought, we're right back to last summer........ Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

8:02am Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't.. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 12

8:36am Tue 8 Apr 14

OldGull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
agreed Staffs
There are too many on here who have to have a downer on someone
Even when we have played well over the last few seasons there has been a target for some.

Barnes, Dicker, Painter, Navarro,Dave and more

Strange how many of them big up Barnes, when they slagged him off when he was here
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't..[/p][/quote]agreed Staffs There are too many on here who have to have a downer on someone Even when we have played well over the last few seasons there has been a target for some. Barnes, Dicker, Painter, Navarro,Dave and more Strange how many of them big up Barnes, when they slagged him off when he was here UTA OldGull
  • Score: 5

8:45am Tue 8 Apr 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

The dream will finally die tonight I feel. Still there is the lovely prospect of rubbing Poyet's nose in it next season.
The dream will finally die tonight I feel. Still there is the lovely prospect of rubbing Poyet's nose in it next season. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 1

9:00am Tue 8 Apr 14

Murray's Mint says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
Absolutely. We always need to find a scaegoat when things are going how want, but unless we're on the training ground, in the dressing room in the hotel pre match, how do we judge whether NJ is good at his job or not? He doesn't pick the team or choose the tatics, he assists. It's not been a vintage season, tedious at times to be honest, but our pre season was poor preparaton for a long hard season, and adhering to FFP rules, when other clubs clearly haven't, makes the task of promotion really difficult.

Could we have performed better this year with the squad we have? Probably, but keep the faith, believe in Tone..........and Oscar. I believe that we're playing the long game, creating a sustainable base, and that success and promotion will follow. Patience is required,if it takes 3 - 4 years to get up the so be it. Tone has invested too much time and money for us top remain a Championship club forever. I have no doubt that the ambition from the club to ener the Premier Leagues is as strong a ever, it just that us fans are very impatent..........bu
t then i guess the high season ticket prices undoubtedly, and reasonably, create high expectations. Give Oscar a summer to evaluate his first season, a full pre season, and hopefully some decent "Oscar" signings and then we can judge his capabilities next season

UTA
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't..[/p][/quote]Absolutely. We always need to find a scaegoat when things are going how want, but unless we're on the training ground, in the dressing room in the hotel pre match, how do we judge whether NJ is good at his job or not? He doesn't pick the team or choose the tatics, he assists. It's not been a vintage season, tedious at times to be honest, but our pre season was poor preparaton for a long hard season, and adhering to FFP rules, when other clubs clearly haven't, makes the task of promotion really difficult. Could we have performed better this year with the squad we have? Probably, but keep the faith, believe in Tone..........and Oscar. I believe that we're playing the long game, creating a sustainable base, and that success and promotion will follow. Patience is required,if it takes 3 - 4 years to get up the so be it. Tone has invested too much time and money for us top remain a Championship club forever. I have no doubt that the ambition from the club to ener the Premier Leagues is as strong a ever, it just that us fans are very impatent..........bu t then i guess the high season ticket prices undoubtedly, and reasonably, create high expectations. Give Oscar a summer to evaluate his first season, a full pre season, and hopefully some decent "Oscar" signings and then we can judge his capabilities next season UTA Murray's Mint
  • Score: 7

9:12am Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Murray's Mint wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
Absolutely. We always need to find a scaegoat when things are going how want, but unless we're on the training ground, in the dressing room in the hotel pre match, how do we judge whether NJ is good at his job or not? He doesn't pick the team or choose the tatics, he assists. It's not been a vintage season, tedious at times to be honest, but our pre season was poor preparaton for a long hard season, and adhering to FFP rules, when other clubs clearly haven't, makes the task of promotion really difficult.

Could we have performed better this year with the squad we have? Probably, but keep the faith, believe in Tone..........and Oscar. I believe that we're playing the long game, creating a sustainable base, and that success and promotion will follow. Patience is required,if it takes 3 - 4 years to get up the so be it. Tone has invested too much time and money for us top remain a Championship club forever. I have no doubt that the ambition from the club to ener the Premier Leagues is as strong a ever, it just that us fans are very impatent..........bu

t then i guess the high season ticket prices undoubtedly, and reasonably, create high expectations. Give Oscar a summer to evaluate his first season, a full pre season, and hopefully some decent "Oscar" signings and then we can judge his capabilities next season

UTA
The whole ethos of my recent posts captured in one. Nice one. Couldn't agree more. Hallelulah. Well said. Absolutely right. (Am I making myself clear?)
Good.
[quote][p][bold]Murray's Mint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't..[/p][/quote]Absolutely. We always need to find a scaegoat when things are going how want, but unless we're on the training ground, in the dressing room in the hotel pre match, how do we judge whether NJ is good at his job or not? He doesn't pick the team or choose the tatics, he assists. It's not been a vintage season, tedious at times to be honest, but our pre season was poor preparaton for a long hard season, and adhering to FFP rules, when other clubs clearly haven't, makes the task of promotion really difficult. Could we have performed better this year with the squad we have? Probably, but keep the faith, believe in Tone..........and Oscar. I believe that we're playing the long game, creating a sustainable base, and that success and promotion will follow. Patience is required,if it takes 3 - 4 years to get up the so be it. Tone has invested too much time and money for us top remain a Championship club forever. I have no doubt that the ambition from the club to ener the Premier Leagues is as strong a ever, it just that us fans are very impatent..........bu t then i guess the high season ticket prices undoubtedly, and reasonably, create high expectations. Give Oscar a summer to evaluate his first season, a full pre season, and hopefully some decent "Oscar" signings and then we can judge his capabilities next season UTA[/p][/quote]The whole ethos of my recent posts captured in one. Nice one. Couldn't agree more. Hallelulah. Well said. Absolutely right. (Am I making myself clear?) Good. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 8

9:51am Tue 8 Apr 14

russellsnr2 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
Maybe you are correct but what really gets my back up is the continued use of Mr Jones to give his opinions on how we played, what we did wrong if we don't score or win and when we do win how pleased he is. Oscar is our man in charge but sorry I don't get that impression when interviews are required. I no as we all do that Oscar is still learning the English language but I do get annoyed when I read Jones this and Jones that and maybe again I wrong but I thought Oscar had a lot more experience when it comes to managing a football team, Jones played for us I no but Oscar played in the top flight.
Time IMO for Mr Jones to melt into the background as Tano did as an assistant and let Oscar step up to the plate as the man in charge.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't..[/p][/quote]Maybe you are correct but what really gets my back up is the continued use of Mr Jones to give his opinions on how we played, what we did wrong if we don't score or win and when we do win how pleased he is. Oscar is our man in charge but sorry I don't get that impression when interviews are required. I no as we all do that Oscar is still learning the English language but I do get annoyed when I read Jones this and Jones that and maybe again I wrong but I thought Oscar had a lot more experience when it comes to managing a football team, Jones played for us I no but Oscar played in the top flight. Time IMO for Mr Jones to melt into the background as Tano did as an assistant and let Oscar step up to the plate as the man in charge. russellsnr2
  • Score: -2

10:08am Tue 8 Apr 14

tinker111 says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
OG IS ON CLOUD COOKOOOOOO we are not good enough and coach PR are even worse
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]OG IS ON CLOUD COOKOOOOOO we are not good enough and coach PR are even worse tinker111
  • Score: -8

11:26am Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Getting back to our team 'Brighton'
If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week?
Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!!
The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception.
Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is???
My honest answer is, no, we don't..
Maybe you are correct but what really gets my back up is the continued use of Mr Jones to give his opinions on how we played, what we did wrong if we don't score or win and when we do win how pleased he is. Oscar is our man in charge but sorry I don't get that impression when interviews are required. I no as we all do that Oscar is still learning the English language but I do get annoyed when I read Jones this and Jones that and maybe again I wrong but I thought Oscar had a lot more experience when it comes to managing a football team, Jones played for us I no but Oscar played in the top flight.
Time IMO for Mr Jones to melt into the background as Tano did as an assistant and let Oscar step up to the plate as the man in charge.
Now that explanation I agree with.
It's not always the main man's province to do the interviews but he should be doing 99% of them and, like you, I see no reason why that should not be the case.
Fans at all clubs want to hear from the 'organ grinder' not the 'monkey' but that doesn't reflect on NJ's value as a coach, which is not something I -or many - can comment on.
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Getting back to our team 'Brighton' If OG really believes we can get to the play off's he will have to do one thing in the next week? Get rid of that guy standing on his right as you look in the photo above!!!!![/p][/quote]The problem with that comment is we don't really know how good he is do we? I'm not saying you're wrong (because I don't know either) but there's a perception about NJ that is nothing more than that - a perception. Some people have decided they don't like him, so the natural reaction is to think he's poor at his job. Do we really know that he is??? My honest answer is, no, we don't..[/p][/quote]Maybe you are correct but what really gets my back up is the continued use of Mr Jones to give his opinions on how we played, what we did wrong if we don't score or win and when we do win how pleased he is. Oscar is our man in charge but sorry I don't get that impression when interviews are required. I no as we all do that Oscar is still learning the English language but I do get annoyed when I read Jones this and Jones that and maybe again I wrong but I thought Oscar had a lot more experience when it comes to managing a football team, Jones played for us I no but Oscar played in the top flight. Time IMO for Mr Jones to melt into the background as Tano did as an assistant and let Oscar step up to the plate as the man in charge.[/p][/quote]Now that explanation I agree with. It's not always the main man's province to do the interviews but he should be doing 99% of them and, like you, I see no reason why that should not be the case. Fans at all clubs want to hear from the 'organ grinder' not the 'monkey' but that doesn't reflect on NJ's value as a coach, which is not something I -or many - can comment on. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

11:48am Tue 8 Apr 14

fatshats says...

That's not Garcia in the picture. That bloke has one of his arms in the air.
That's not Garcia in the picture. That bloke has one of his arms in the air. fatshats
  • Score: 0

12:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2599640/Sw
ansea-Norwich-alert-
Garcia-set-quit-Brig
hton-end-season.html


Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.
http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2599640/Sw ansea-Norwich-alert- Garcia-set-quit-Brig hton-end-season.html Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe. Aye Aye
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Aye Aye wrote:
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2599640/Sw

ansea-Norwich-alert-

Garcia-set-quit-Brig

hton-end-season.html



Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.
Good spot.
Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate?
He wouldn't be the first......
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2599640/Sw ansea-Norwich-alert- Garcia-set-quit-Brig hton-end-season.html Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.[/p][/quote]Good spot. Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate? He wouldn't be the first...... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Aye Aye wrote:
http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2599640/Sw


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Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.
Good spot.
Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate?
He wouldn't be the first......
Just a thought (random as it is)
Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances...
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2599640/Sw ansea-Norwich-alert- Garcia-set-quit-Brig hton-end-season.html Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.[/p][/quote]Good spot. Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate? He wouldn't be the first......[/p][/quote]Just a thought (random as it is) Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Aye Aye wrote:
http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/sport/footbal



l/article-2599640/Sw



ansea-Norwich-alert-



Garcia-set-quit-Brig



hton-end-season.html





Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.
Good spot.
Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate?
He wouldn't be the first......
Just a thought (random as it is)
Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances...
There is a rumour on fountain of information NSC that OG threatened to quit before BHA acted and brought in Lingard.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2599640/Sw ansea-Norwich-alert- Garcia-set-quit-Brig hton-end-season.html Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.[/p][/quote]Good spot. Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate? He wouldn't be the first......[/p][/quote]Just a thought (random as it is) Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances...[/p][/quote]There is a rumour on fountain of information NSC that OG threatened to quit before BHA acted and brought in Lingard. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Tue 8 Apr 14

tinker111 says...

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Aye Aye wrote:
http://www.dailymail




.co.uk/sport/footbal




l/article-2599640/Sw




ansea-Norwich-alert-




Garcia-set-quit-Brig




hton-end-season.html






Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.
Good spot.
Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate?
He wouldn't be the first......
Just a thought (random as it is)
Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances...
There is a rumour on fountain of information NSC that OG threatened to quit before BHA acted and brought in Lingard.
Think OG will be gone at end of season DO hope club bring a good manager Malki M will do for me but would he come ??? with hands tied over players etc BARBER/ BURKE oh dear not another dead beat. HA PERHAPS GREAT GUS WILL COME BACK , I JEST ????
[quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2599640/Sw ansea-Norwich-alert- Garcia-set-quit-Brig hton-end-season.html Perhaps it's not OG who's the problem if, indeed, there is a problem as some would have us believe.[/p][/quote]Good spot. Will be interesting to see how the Argus - and the club - react to this one. Although its not backed up by any comment (which means OG can say he knows nothing about it) I'd reckon someone is putting the word out and so the bit about his frustration could be accurate? He wouldn't be the first......[/p][/quote]Just a thought (random as it is) Perhaps that's why Gregory has stuck his nose in, because he's heard the rumour too and fancies his chances...[/p][/quote]There is a rumour on fountain of information NSC that OG threatened to quit before BHA acted and brought in Lingard.[/p][/quote]Think OG will be gone at end of season DO hope club bring a good manager Malki M will do for me but would he come ??? with hands tied over players etc BARBER/ BURKE oh dear not another dead beat. HA PERHAPS GREAT GUS WILL COME BACK , I JEST ???? tinker111
  • Score: -1

2:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.
If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

2:38pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Neville says...

Re The Mail article,interesting,
its not only the fans that have been dismayed by DB dealings,which now leads me to believe definitely that the players brought in are DBs and not Oscars specific targets.Can't blame OG for looking to leave and I think he will leave once season ends,never looks happy and obviously has not got the control he was promised. Gus all over again.
Maybe its time to replace DB and his team and possibly PB.
Massive upheaval again in the summer with players and possibly OG leaving.
Re The Mail article,interesting, its not only the fans that have been dismayed by DB dealings,which now leads me to believe definitely that the players brought in are DBs and not Oscars specific targets.Can't blame OG for looking to leave and I think he will leave once season ends,never looks happy and obviously has not got the control he was promised. Gus all over again. Maybe its time to replace DB and his team and possibly PB. Massive upheaval again in the summer with players and possibly OG leaving. Neville
  • Score: 1

2:46pm Tue 8 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

Glad to see that Oscar is still thinking positively although I suspect as others have mentioned that our Play-off chances have virtually disappeared.
Losing tonight will probably kill any chance left but a draw this evening followed by 5 wins could still potentially see BHA just securing a 6th place finish.
I have been following the debate re Oscar on this and other threads. Clearly he has had a difficult season with a problematic and effectively non-existent pre-season, injuries to key players who then missed a lot of games eg Ulloa, Crofts, Orlandi, Buckley, CMS etc plus other important squad members like Bridcutt and Barnes leaving and not really being replaced.
I think he is a top Coach witness how he has brought on the youngsters like Ince, March and JFC and brought out the best in Crofts when he was fit and Ward who has been the best new acquisition this season and whom I trust we will sign permanently.
I have yet to decide on Oscar's merits as the de facto Manager but will reserve judgement until I see how he and the club restructure the squad in the next 3 1/2 months and see the quality of players who are brought in to strengthen the Team.
The one thing that has disappointed me most, as it has other fans and indeed Oscar judging from his comments, is the lack of Goals. It is not as if we haven't dominated matches often with 58% to 60% plus possession and had plenty of shots. Unfortunately the accuracy of our attempts on goal has been lacking and the number of really 'clear cut' chances less that one might have hoped.
No doubt Oscar will be looking to strengthen his striking options subject to how CMS and Hoskins perform in the next few matches if played
Other areas I would imagine he will be looking at are the midfield where IMO we lack a creative attacking midfielder and the defence where the current members are not getting any younger. Indeed as most are out of contract or in Ward's case returning to their parent club this area will need addressing fairly urgently.
I really trust that Kuszczak is resigned because he has been one of the top keepers I have seen playing for the Albion in the 56 years I have supported the club (first game 1958). Since I believe both Ankergren and Brezovan are also out of contract retaining Kuszczak is perhaps the first priority squad wise that Oscar should deal with.
So assessing Oscar perhaps needs a little more time and patience and I hope he is given the chance. However if, as the report in the Daily Mail raises, he leaves I hope that the club has learnt from last summer's experience and moves to appoint a successor quickly certainly in plenty of time to have a proper pre-season.
Finally whether the 'Manager' is Oscar as I expect or another it will be important to recruit players early in the Transfer Window and where applicable get players resigned quickly rather that leaving everything to the last minute which appears to have been the case over the last couple of seasons.
UTA tonight.
Glad to see that Oscar is still thinking positively although I suspect as others have mentioned that our Play-off chances have virtually disappeared. Losing tonight will probably kill any chance left but a draw this evening followed by 5 wins could still potentially see BHA just securing a 6th place finish. I have been following the debate re Oscar on this and other threads. Clearly he has had a difficult season with a problematic and effectively non-existent pre-season, injuries to key players who then missed a lot of games eg Ulloa, Crofts, Orlandi, Buckley, CMS etc plus other important squad members like Bridcutt and Barnes leaving and not really being replaced. I think he is a top Coach witness how he has brought on the youngsters like Ince, March and JFC and brought out the best in Crofts when he was fit and Ward who has been the best new acquisition this season and whom I trust we will sign permanently. I have yet to decide on Oscar's merits as the de facto Manager but will reserve judgement until I see how he and the club restructure the squad in the next 3 1/2 months and see the quality of players who are brought in to strengthen the Team. The one thing that has disappointed me most, as it has other fans and indeed Oscar judging from his comments, is the lack of Goals. It is not as if we haven't dominated matches often with 58% to 60% plus possession and had plenty of shots. Unfortunately the accuracy of our attempts on goal has been lacking and the number of really 'clear cut' chances less that one might have hoped. No doubt Oscar will be looking to strengthen his striking options subject to how CMS and Hoskins perform in the next few matches if played Other areas I would imagine he will be looking at are the midfield where IMO we lack a creative attacking midfielder and the defence where the current members are not getting any younger. Indeed as most are out of contract or in Ward's case returning to their parent club this area will need addressing fairly urgently. I really trust that Kuszczak is resigned because he has been one of the top keepers I have seen playing for the Albion in the 56 years I have supported the club (first game 1958). Since I believe both Ankergren and Brezovan are also out of contract retaining Kuszczak is perhaps the first priority squad wise that Oscar should deal with. So assessing Oscar perhaps needs a little more time and patience and I hope he is given the chance. However if, as the report in the Daily Mail raises, he leaves I hope that the club has learnt from last summer's experience and moves to appoint a successor quickly certainly in plenty of time to have a proper pre-season. Finally whether the 'Manager' is Oscar as I expect or another it will be important to recruit players early in the Transfer Window and where applicable get players resigned quickly rather that leaving everything to the last minute which appears to have been the case over the last couple of seasons. UTA tonight. ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

2:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Re The Mail article,interesting,

its not only the fans that have been dismayed by DB dealings,which now leads me to believe definitely that the players brought in are DBs and not Oscars specific targets.Can't blame OG for looking to leave and I think he will leave once season ends,never looks happy and obviously has not got the control he was promised. Gus all over again.
Maybe its time to replace DB and his team and possibly PB.
Massive upheaval again in the summer with players and possibly OG leaving.
Hi Nev.
We should recognise that this is just one article and it has not as yet been backed up by any other reporters.
With that said, yep it might wll be that the flops had nothing to do with Oscar, and the way in which he, 'didn't,' use them seems to confirm that, something that some of us have been saying for a while now, and Kemmy can probably be added to the list.

The article suggests that Oscar will leave, so I guess that means quit before a new job comes along, if things are that bad at the club to make the guy resign, they have all done a great job at hiding it, maybe that's why Oscar lets Jones do the talking, he avoids being asked a dangerous question.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Re The Mail article,interesting, its not only the fans that have been dismayed by DB dealings,which now leads me to believe definitely that the players brought in are DBs and not Oscars specific targets.Can't blame OG for looking to leave and I think he will leave once season ends,never looks happy and obviously has not got the control he was promised. Gus all over again. Maybe its time to replace DB and his team and possibly PB. Massive upheaval again in the summer with players and possibly OG leaving.[/p][/quote]Hi Nev. We should recognise that this is just one article and it has not as yet been backed up by any other reporters. With that said, yep it might wll be that the flops had nothing to do with Oscar, and the way in which he, 'didn't,' use them seems to confirm that, something that some of us have been saying for a while now, and Kemmy can probably be added to the list. The article suggests that Oscar will leave, so I guess that means quit before a new job comes along, if things are that bad at the club to make the guy resign, they have all done a great job at hiding it, maybe that's why Oscar lets Jones do the talking, he avoids being asked a dangerous question. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

2:57pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Neville says...

Ballantrae
Possession means nothing without an end product,in nearly all matches especially at home our possession rate is 65% unfortunately it's mostly in our own half.
Ballantrae Possession means nothing without an end product,in nearly all matches especially at home our possession rate is 65% unfortunately it's mostly in our own half. Neville
  • Score: 2

3:00pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Neville says...

Vegas,
Lots of discord and rumours floating around which is not good for anyone. The set up hasn't,t seemed right since The GP saga,think the fact that Tb not around that much probably has allowed things to deteriorate.
Personally I would like OG to run the Academy and McCarthy or McKay come in and take over promotion bid next season.
Vegas, Lots of discord and rumours floating around which is not good for anyone. The set up hasn't,t seemed right since The GP saga,think the fact that Tb not around that much probably has allowed things to deteriorate. Personally I would like OG to run the Academy and McCarthy or McKay come in and take over promotion bid next season. Neville
  • Score: -2

3:23pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

I guess there'll be a lot of speculation now the rumour is out there with a lot of names being bandied about in respect of a potential successor, should OG's early departure materialise (in which case I would offer Eddie Howe as one for the shortlist).

But is that really the issue? Why is it that yet another manager is bemoaning our transfer dealings and the lack of funds to address the shortcomings in our squad? Why is it we are, yet again, struggling to find that elusive prolific goalscorer when the likes of Burnley (with all due respect to a club which is, frankly, punching way above it's weight) has three of them - look what it's done for them this season, with two of them having been our our bookings recently.

No, for me this issue has to be so much more than yet another disenfranchised manger (sorry, head coach) seeking to leave prematurely and the selection of a suitable replacement.

Someone somewhere needs to get a grip on this.
I guess there'll be a lot of speculation now the rumour is out there with a lot of names being bandied about in respect of a potential successor, should OG's early departure materialise (in which case I would offer Eddie Howe as one for the shortlist). But is that really the issue? Why is it that yet another manager is bemoaning our transfer dealings and the lack of funds to address the shortcomings in our squad? Why is it we are, yet again, struggling to find that elusive prolific goalscorer when the likes of Burnley (with all due respect to a club which is, frankly, punching way above it's weight) has three of them - look what it's done for them this season, with two of them having been our our bookings recently. No, for me this issue has to be so much more than yet another disenfranchised manger (sorry, head coach) seeking to leave prematurely and the selection of a suitable replacement. Someone somewhere needs to get a grip on this. Aye Aye
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Tue 8 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Aye Aye wrote:
I guess there'll be a lot of speculation now the rumour is out there with a lot of names being bandied about in respect of a potential successor, should OG's early departure materialise (in which case I would offer Eddie Howe as one for the shortlist).

But is that really the issue? Why is it that yet another manager is bemoaning our transfer dealings and the lack of funds to address the shortcomings in our squad? Why is it we are, yet again, struggling to find that elusive prolific goalscorer when the likes of Burnley (with all due respect to a club which is, frankly, punching way above it's weight) has three of them - look what it's done for them this season, with two of them having been our our bookings recently.

No, for me this issue has to be so much more than yet another disenfranchised manger (sorry, head coach) seeking to leave prematurely and the selection of a suitable replacement.

Someone somewhere needs to get a grip on this.
but as you say, it is just a rumour. I wonder how our season might have gone had Crofts not gone down, he was scoring and some would say having his best season since he joned us. Was he the strike partner Ulloa has needed all season?
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: I guess there'll be a lot of speculation now the rumour is out there with a lot of names being bandied about in respect of a potential successor, should OG's early departure materialise (in which case I would offer Eddie Howe as one for the shortlist). But is that really the issue? Why is it that yet another manager is bemoaning our transfer dealings and the lack of funds to address the shortcomings in our squad? Why is it we are, yet again, struggling to find that elusive prolific goalscorer when the likes of Burnley (with all due respect to a club which is, frankly, punching way above it's weight) has three of them - look what it's done for them this season, with two of them having been our our bookings recently. No, for me this issue has to be so much more than yet another disenfranchised manger (sorry, head coach) seeking to leave prematurely and the selection of a suitable replacement. Someone somewhere needs to get a grip on this.[/p][/quote]but as you say, it is just a rumour. I wonder how our season might have gone had Crofts not gone down, he was scoring and some would say having his best season since he joned us. Was he the strike partner Ulloa has needed all season? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Neville says...

AyeAye
Howe destined for England set up in next couple of years not Brighton unfortunately.
AyeAye Howe destined for England set up in next couple of years not Brighton unfortunately. Neville
  • Score: -1

4:17pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.
No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.[/p][/quote]No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.
No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion.
BTW for clarity, I'm not one of those calling for him to go, quite the opposite. However, if there is ANY credence to this (if only in terms of his level of frustration) I'll happily admit that my confidence in the DOF set up is misplaced.
But that's still an 'if'....
"To lose one (manager) may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose (two) looks like carelessness." - Oscar Wilde.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.[/p][/quote]No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion.[/p][/quote]BTW for clarity, I'm not one of those calling for him to go, quite the opposite. However, if there is ANY credence to this (if only in terms of his level of frustration) I'll happily admit that my confidence in the DOF set up is misplaced. But that's still an 'if'.... "To lose one (manager) may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose (two) looks like carelessness." - Oscar Wilde. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

4:41pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

Neville wrote:
AyeAye
Howe destined for England set up in next couple of years not Brighton unfortunately.
Certainly a rising star Neville - a shame for Albion but good news for the national side.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: AyeAye Howe destined for England set up in next couple of years not Brighton unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Certainly a rising star Neville - a shame for Albion but good news for the national side. Aye Aye
  • Score: 0

4:44pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.
No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion.
BTW for clarity, I'm not one of those calling for him to go, quite the opposite. However, if there is ANY credence to this (if only in terms of his level of frustration) I'll happily admit that my confidence in the DOF set up is misplaced.
But that's still an 'if'....
"To lose one (manager) may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose (two) looks like carelessness." - Oscar Wilde.
Me neither and for those who are baying for his blood, I'd say be careful what you wish for!

The best outcome would be to retain OG's services and find a way round the FFP rules (if that is, indeed, the route cause of the problems) and give him an adequate player budget to secure promotion (and not via the playoffs!) next season.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: If the article has any legs at all one thing it does do is, it shows what others think of how well Oscar has done given from where he started with us and all the injuries, a level of recognition that has not been shown by those on here calling for him to go.[/p][/quote]No it doesn't. It shows a journalist taking a line he was given and substantiating it with two potential vacancies. If you read it carefully, there's no suggestion Norwich or Swansea have an opinion.[/p][/quote]BTW for clarity, I'm not one of those calling for him to go, quite the opposite. However, if there is ANY credence to this (if only in terms of his level of frustration) I'll happily admit that my confidence in the DOF set up is misplaced. But that's still an 'if'.... "To lose one (manager) may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose (two) looks like carelessness." - Oscar Wilde.[/p][/quote]Me neither and for those who are baying for his blood, I'd say be careful what you wish for! The best outcome would be to retain OG's services and find a way round the FFP rules (if that is, indeed, the route cause of the problems) and give him an adequate player budget to secure promotion (and not via the playoffs!) next season. Aye Aye
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Tue 8 Apr 14

ballantrrae says...

Neville wrote:
Ballantrae
Possession means nothing without an end product,in nearly all matches especially at home our possession rate is 65% unfortunately it's mostly in our own half.
I agree with you Neville absolutely. The point I was trying to make is that we seem to have the majority of possession and lots of goal attempts but not enough shots on target which in turn has resulted relatively few goals.
This may be my perception but we don't seem to have had that many 'open goal' type misses which leads on to my comment that we don't appear to be creating that many 'clear cut' chances or at least not as many as I feel we created last season. This is one of the reasons I mentioned that a creative attacking midfielder should perhaps be on the shopping list for next season.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ballantrae Possession means nothing without an end product,in nearly all matches especially at home our possession rate is 65% unfortunately it's mostly in our own half.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Neville absolutely. The point I was trying to make is that we seem to have the majority of possession and lots of goal attempts but not enough shots on target which in turn has resulted relatively few goals. This may be my perception but we don't seem to have had that many 'open goal' type misses which leads on to my comment that we don't appear to be creating that many 'clear cut' chances or at least not as many as I feel we created last season. This is one of the reasons I mentioned that a creative attacking midfielder should perhaps be on the shopping list for next season. ballantrrae
  • Score: 1

5:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pte says...

FFP won't be enforced because though a majority of clubs agreed to it in principle the majority are ignoring it. In bringing it in the league only did so because clubs said they wanted it. Now it's clear by their actions they don't actually want it the league has no choice but abandon it. The league isn't a dictatorship that can impose it's will without majority consent. They only do what a majority of clubs tell them- that's democracy anything else can be challenged in the courts.

The only clubs that seem interested in it are a handful of the strugglers plus BHA

When OG goes it would be lovely to have Lamps as player manager. More likely we'll have NJ as that will cut 1/2m off the wage bill
FFP won't be enforced because though a majority of clubs agreed to it in principle the majority are ignoring it. In bringing it in the league only did so because clubs said they wanted it. Now it's clear by their actions they don't actually want it the league has no choice but abandon it. The league isn't a dictatorship that can impose it's will without majority consent. They only do what a majority of clubs tell them- that's democracy anything else can be challenged in the courts. The only clubs that seem interested in it are a handful of the strugglers plus BHA When OG goes it would be lovely to have Lamps as player manager. More likely we'll have NJ as that will cut 1/2m off the wage bill pte
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Neville says...

Pte
To clarify FFP is imposed by EUFA
Pte To clarify FFP is imposed by EUFA Neville
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6:50pm Tue 8 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

pte wrote:
FFP won't be enforced because though a majority of clubs agreed to it in principle the majority are ignoring it. In bringing it in the league only did so because clubs said they wanted it. Now it's clear by their actions they don't actually want it the league has no choice but abandon it. The league isn't a dictatorship that can impose it's will without majority consent. They only do what a majority of clubs tell them- that's democracy anything else can be challenged in the courts.

The only clubs that seem interested in it are a handful of the strugglers plus BHA

When OG goes it would be lovely to have Lamps as player manager. More likely we'll have NJ as that will cut 1/2m off the wage bill
But the majority of clubs did sign up for it, only a small few didn't. The idea that most are ignoring it has not yet been shown, clubs are announcing their losses for last year just as we have but we don't know yet how many have done what is needed to comply. We will still be operating at a loss but we will comply. Leeds announced a smaller loss to us so they too might well be compliant. Until all have offered up their figures we will just have to wait and see what happens next. The FFP won't go away, could it be modified, yes, but done awya with, no.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: FFP won't be enforced because though a majority of clubs agreed to it in principle the majority are ignoring it. In bringing it in the league only did so because clubs said they wanted it. Now it's clear by their actions they don't actually want it the league has no choice but abandon it. The league isn't a dictatorship that can impose it's will without majority consent. They only do what a majority of clubs tell them- that's democracy anything else can be challenged in the courts. The only clubs that seem interested in it are a handful of the strugglers plus BHA When OG goes it would be lovely to have Lamps as player manager. More likely we'll have NJ as that will cut 1/2m off the wage bill[/p][/quote]But the majority of clubs did sign up for it, only a small few didn't. The idea that most are ignoring it has not yet been shown, clubs are announcing their losses for last year just as we have but we don't know yet how many have done what is needed to comply. We will still be operating at a loss but we will comply. Leeds announced a smaller loss to us so they too might well be compliant. Until all have offered up their figures we will just have to wait and see what happens next. The FFP won't go away, could it be modified, yes, but done awya with, no. VegasSeagull
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