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Talking point: Who would you like Albion to sign?

Albion this afternnon announced six players were being released (Kuszczak, Brezovan, Lopez, Orlandi, Hoskins, Rodriguez) but who would you like to see replace them? We would love to know what you think so join the debate here and have your say.

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3:59pm Wed 14 May 14

Neville says...

Impossible to say without a budget.But the player who really impressed me was midfielder McCourt of Barnsley,previously Celtic and liked the look of Yeovil right back,young and pacey,just what is required. Also think the goalkeeping quality in Championship was high standard,Heaton prob the best from Burnley but plants to choose from hopefully to replace TK
Impossible to say without a budget.But the player who really impressed me was midfielder McCourt of Barnsley,previously Celtic and liked the look of Yeovil right back,young and pacey,just what is required. Also think the goalkeeping quality in Championship was high standard,Heaton prob the best from Burnley but plants to choose from hopefully to replace TK Neville
  • Score: 6

4:01pm Wed 14 May 14

WoodingdeanDS says...

Troy Deeney.
Troy Deeney. WoodingdeanDS
  • Score: -3

4:16pm Wed 14 May 14

Hampshire Gull says...

We should make sensible comments here, as maybe Burke & Jones have asked the Argus to start this thread to give them some ideas for signings?
We should make sensible comments here, as maybe Burke & Jones have asked the Argus to start this thread to give them some ideas for signings? Hampshire Gull
  • Score: 24

4:25pm Wed 14 May 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Stephen Ward, Lingard on season loan, good goalie (first choice), Joe Cole, another creative midfielder and a commanding 25 year old CB.
Stephen Ward, Lingard on season loan, good goalie (first choice), Joe Cole, another creative midfielder and a commanding 25 year old CB. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 6

4:26pm Wed 14 May 14

falmer seagull says...

A decent goalkeeper. If Jones and Burke think Ankergren was worth keeping God help us!

Priority, an offensive midfield playmaker.

A third right back as cover for Calderon when Bruno is out!
A decent goalkeeper. If Jones and Burke think Ankergren was worth keeping God help us! Priority, an offensive midfield playmaker. A third right back as cover for Calderon when Bruno is out! falmer seagull
  • Score: 19

4:27pm Wed 14 May 14

falmer seagull says...

Yes get Stephen Ward back!
Yes get Stephen Ward back! falmer seagull
  • Score: 57

4:29pm Wed 14 May 14

Father Hackett says...

Rio Ferdinand.
Rio Ferdinand. Father Hackett
  • Score: -38

4:30pm Wed 14 May 14

thruball says...

Work rate and desire of James McLean at Wigan and creativity of Nat Chalobah the Chelsea loanee at Boro would serve our midfield well. Any of Derby's back four and George Thorne in midfield.
Work rate and desire of James McLean at Wigan and creativity of Nat Chalobah the Chelsea loanee at Boro would serve our midfield well. Any of Derby's back four and George Thorne in midfield. thruball
  • Score: 6

4:31pm Wed 14 May 14

SMF20 says...

So 2 goalies, 2 midfielders and 2 forwards gone... A further 3 gone after loan period.

I can see only 1 goalie coming in as I see Walton making the step up this coming season.. I wouldn't mind Speroni from CP if I'm honest.

I'm hoping Ward will return like many others but I think this will need to be done quickly.

The 2 midfielders I'd like to see arrive would be McCourt and Leadbitter and the 2 strikers would be Vaughn and Wood.

That just leaves the replacing of Andrews and Lingard. I'd quiite like to see Chalobah come here... Didn't have the best of seasons and think he has more to offer than he showed with Forest.
Finally for me I'd like to see the last loan berth filled by Lingard again. I believe he has more to give.
So 2 goalies, 2 midfielders and 2 forwards gone... A further 3 gone after loan period. I can see only 1 goalie coming in as I see Walton making the step up this coming season.. I wouldn't mind Speroni from CP if I'm honest. I'm hoping Ward will return like many others but I think this will need to be done quickly. The 2 midfielders I'd like to see arrive would be McCourt and Leadbitter and the 2 strikers would be Vaughn and Wood. That just leaves the replacing of Andrews and Lingard. I'd quiite like to see Chalobah come here... Didn't have the best of seasons and think he has more to offer than he showed with Forest. Finally for me I'd like to see the last loan berth filled by Lingard again. I believe he has more to give. SMF20
  • Score: 8

4:38pm Wed 14 May 14

RaveyDavey says...

New manager would be nice. Maybe Tony Pulis? He done well last season and won an award and stuff......
New manager would be nice. Maybe Tony Pulis? He done well last season and won an award and stuff...... RaveyDavey
  • Score: -18

4:39pm Wed 14 May 14

markymark03 says...

Stech - GK - Yeovil
Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil
Max Clayton - ST - Orient
Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley
Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea

and of course Bobby Z!
Stech - GK - Yeovil Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil Max Clayton - ST - Orient Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea and of course Bobby Z! markymark03
  • Score: -3

4:40pm Wed 14 May 14

bha3072011 says...

Stephen Ward permanently. Sam Byram (right back) from Leeds. may cost a bit but will definitely be worth it. try to get McCormack (striker) as well. Westwood (goalkeeper) from Sunderland. O'Grady (attacking midfielder) from Barnsley. Zaha (winger) on loan, maybe. Noone (winger) and Frazier Campbell (striker) from Cardiff. And a central defender
Stephen Ward permanently. Sam Byram (right back) from Leeds. may cost a bit but will definitely be worth it. try to get McCormack (striker) as well. Westwood (goalkeeper) from Sunderland. O'Grady (attacking midfielder) from Barnsley. Zaha (winger) on loan, maybe. Noone (winger) and Frazier Campbell (striker) from Cardiff. And a central defender bha3072011
  • Score: -7

4:40pm Wed 14 May 14

B-hove says...

It appears we are enquiring after Emiliano Viviano, the third string Arsenal keeper, who is on loan from Serie A’s Palermo. Anyone know much about him?
It appears we are enquiring after Emiliano Viviano, the third string Arsenal keeper, who is on loan from Serie A’s Palermo. Anyone know much about him? B-hove
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Wed 14 May 14

mikeygit says...

If we can get Lingard back on a season loan, that would be good. We need proven younger pacey, intelligent players, who do not think the Club owes them a living!! we have talked about players being released and loanees going back but who will also WANT to leave??
If we can get Lingard back on a season loan, that would be good. We need proven younger pacey, intelligent players, who do not think the Club owes them a living!! we have talked about players being released and loanees going back but who will also WANT to leave?? mikeygit
  • Score: -2

4:43pm Wed 14 May 14

northernseagull says...

Retain ward for starters
Retain ward for starters northernseagull
  • Score: 25

4:54pm Wed 14 May 14

bruce beckett says...

Matty Fryatt from Hull. Guaranteed goalscorer at Championship level.
Matty Fryatt from Hull. Guaranteed goalscorer at Championship level. bruce beckett
  • Score: 22

4:55pm Wed 14 May 14

tug509 says...

Dumbest question ever asked on this site ,we currently dont have a manager ,so we dont know which type of football we will be likely to play ,what set up ,what style ,what formation ,the list is endless ,but it is very short for this Brighton supporter ,GET RID OF THE DOF POSITION ,and give a decent manager a decent chance !. I bleed Blue and White the same as most . UTA
Dumbest question ever asked on this site ,we currently dont have a manager ,so we dont know which type of football we will be likely to play ,what set up ,what style ,what formation ,the list is endless ,but it is very short for this Brighton supporter ,GET RID OF THE DOF POSITION ,and give a decent manager a decent chance !. I bleed Blue and White the same as most . UTA tug509
  • Score: 20

4:58pm Wed 14 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
412432
Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 7

5:05pm Wed 14 May 14

Mancgulled says...

Stephen Ward, Beccio and one quality attacking midfielder -
Stephen Ward, Beccio and one quality attacking midfielder - Mancgulled
  • Score: 16

5:11pm Wed 14 May 14

Seagull96 says...

110% Get Stephen Ward back. Lingard on another season loan or permanent if possible. New CB, Ake on loan from Chelsea? Ayling from Yeovil. Definitely Viviano from Palermo to replace TK. Chalobah is a good shout. Worth a look at Joe Cole. David Ngog is a free agent? Like the look of Dale Jennings of Barnsley. Stick Chris Walton in as our third keeper. A centre back is definitely needed though. UTA
110% Get Stephen Ward back. Lingard on another season loan or permanent if possible. New CB, Ake on loan from Chelsea? Ayling from Yeovil. Definitely Viviano from Palermo to replace TK. Chalobah is a good shout. Worth a look at Joe Cole. David Ngog is a free agent? Like the look of Dale Jennings of Barnsley. Stick Chris Walton in as our third keeper. A centre back is definitely needed though. UTA Seagull96
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Wed 14 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Well if we're talking money no object then Luis Suarez, but more realistically a striker like Mcormack of Leeds or Ings of Burnley. Probably though they will be beyond our price bracket so whatever freebies are available I guess. Leicester now apparently ready to blow £180 million over 3 years to break into top 5 in the prem, even allowing for the income from tv etc in the prem, how on earth does this stand with FFP? Imagine the Albion announcing a spending spree like that. To be honest though Leicester will probably have to spend double that to get to where they want to be, the games' gone bonkers!
Well if we're talking money no object then Luis Suarez, but more realistically a striker like Mcormack of Leeds or Ings of Burnley. Probably though they will be beyond our price bracket so whatever freebies are available I guess. Leicester now apparently ready to blow £180 million over 3 years to break into top 5 in the prem, even allowing for the income from tv etc in the prem, how on earth does this stand with FFP? Imagine the Albion announcing a spending spree like that. To be honest though Leicester will probably have to spend double that to get to where they want to be, the games' gone bonkers! East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 3

5:13pm Wed 14 May 14

dave from bexill says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

412432
Thanks for that Arnie. I've just listened and found it interesting and informative.Hindsigh
t is a great thing and I guess Tony Bloom has learnt a great deal regarding his appointment of Oscar (and Gus). We move onwards and upwards... we all hope.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432[/p][/quote]Thanks for that Arnie. I've just listened and found it interesting and informative.Hindsigh t is a great thing and I guess Tony Bloom has learnt a great deal regarding his appointment of Oscar (and Gus). We move onwards and upwards... we all hope. dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

5:16pm Wed 14 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/He
's addressing the whole of Worthing?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/He 's addressing the whole of Worthing? East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Wed 14 May 14

Seagull96 says...

Mazrez and Morgan from Leicester. Looks like they're going to be reshaping their whole squad!
Mazrez and Morgan from Leicester. Looks like they're going to be reshaping their whole squad! Seagull96
  • Score: 4

5:23pm Wed 14 May 14

To baldly go says...

No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.
No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo. To baldly go
  • Score: 6

5:25pm Wed 14 May 14

russellsnr2 says...

Put this up in the previous story and got 2 thumbs down without any reason as to why.
Goalkeeper.
Victor Valdes from Barcelona if he wants a go at English football and not to expensive, has a lot of experience The 32-year-old said he would leave the Camp Nou at the end of this season, following 12 years since his first-team debut, in search of a new challenge with a different club.
Put this up in the previous story and got 2 thumbs down without any reason as to why. Goalkeeper. Victor Valdes from Barcelona if he wants a go at English football and not to expensive, has a lot of experience The 32-year-old said he would leave the Camp Nou at the end of this season, following 12 years since his first-team debut, in search of a new challenge with a different club. russellsnr2
  • Score: -23

5:29pm Wed 14 May 14

lighteninglee says...

get wardy signed up asap. what about linguard the man united goalie he has no chance at united we can give him first team football. need a quality winger as buckley is to injury prone.
get wardy signed up asap. what about linguard the man united goalie he has no chance at united we can give him first team football. need a quality winger as buckley is to injury prone. lighteninglee
  • Score: 7

5:31pm Wed 14 May 14

cgul_holmes says...

Matthew Etherington is a free agent and would do a great job in the championship - direct, pacey and can whip in an excellent cross.. Interviewed on talksport this morning and he said that he wouldn't rule out a move to the championship. Bobby Z in the box to bang them in...
Matthew Etherington is a free agent and would do a great job in the championship - direct, pacey and can whip in an excellent cross.. Interviewed on talksport this morning and he said that he wouldn't rule out a move to the championship. Bobby Z in the box to bang them in... cgul_holmes
  • Score: 20

5:39pm Wed 14 May 14

ballantrrae says...

Ward to start with plus the Yeovil RB Ayling. I agree with the comments about Chlobah and Thorn if WBA would let him join. Up front I would like Bamford who won't get a look in at Chelsea.
That would still leave a first choice GK (and possibly a second young back up keeper), a young CB, a creative midfielder (someone who can make a killer pass who has pace) plus another striker who could either play off Ulloa or lead the line. Seeing Zamora's impact for QPR against Wigan was mouth watering...
However I am sure whoever Bloom appoints as the new Manager will have his own ideas and no doubt we will have to be patient in waiting for players to be signed. I hope that we recruit players sooner rather than later certainly in time for the club's trip to Spain. I equally hope that we don't have to wait till the end of August. Worryingly Bloom said in an interview on BBC Radio (today) that new players would join 'by the end of August' !
Of course the most important acquisition will be the new Manager (and his team).
I await developments on both the playing and coaching fronts.
Ward to start with plus the Yeovil RB Ayling. I agree with the comments about Chlobah and Thorn if WBA would let him join. Up front I would like Bamford who won't get a look in at Chelsea. That would still leave a first choice GK (and possibly a second young back up keeper), a young CB, a creative midfielder (someone who can make a killer pass who has pace) plus another striker who could either play off Ulloa or lead the line. Seeing Zamora's impact for QPR against Wigan was mouth watering... However I am sure whoever Bloom appoints as the new Manager will have his own ideas and no doubt we will have to be patient in waiting for players to be signed. I hope that we recruit players sooner rather than later certainly in time for the club's trip to Spain. I equally hope that we don't have to wait till the end of August. Worryingly Bloom said in an interview on BBC Radio (today) that new players would join 'by the end of August' ! Of course the most important acquisition will be the new Manager (and his team). I await developments on both the playing and coaching fronts. ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Wed 14 May 14

Manoli says...

Sign Ward, Rio, J Cole, Vorn, Ake, Morgan, Mcormack. Get rid of Greer
Sign Ward, Rio, J Cole, Vorn, Ake, Morgan, Mcormack. Get rid of Greer Manoli
  • Score: -8

5:51pm Wed 14 May 14

dave from bexill says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Ward to start with plus the Yeovil RB Ayling. I agree with the comments about Chlobah and Thorn if WBA would let him join. Up front I would like Bamford who won't get a look in at Chelsea.
That would still leave a first choice GK (and possibly a second young back up keeper), a young CB, a creative midfielder (someone who can make a killer pass who has pace) plus another striker who could either play off Ulloa or lead the line. Seeing Zamora's impact for QPR against Wigan was mouth watering...
However I am sure whoever Bloom appoints as the new Manager will have his own ideas and no doubt we will have to be patient in waiting for players to be signed. I hope that we recruit players sooner rather than later certainly in time for the club's trip to Spain. I equally hope that we don't have to wait till the end of August. Worryingly Bloom said in an interview on BBC Radio (today) that new players would join 'by the end of August' !
Of course the most important acquisition will be the new Manager (and his team).
I await developments on both the playing and coaching fronts.
With regard to a midfielder, I'd like to see the club make another attempt to bring Adam Clayton in from Huddersfield, absolute quality and an excellent leader. I know Albion failed when trying to secure him in January, subsequently bringing in Dale Stephens, but he has something of Nobby Horton about him (obviously not that good) and would be a great addition to our midfield, although it's rumoured that both Cardiff and Norwich want to sign him.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Ward to start with plus the Yeovil RB Ayling. I agree with the comments about Chlobah and Thorn if WBA would let him join. Up front I would like Bamford who won't get a look in at Chelsea. That would still leave a first choice GK (and possibly a second young back up keeper), a young CB, a creative midfielder (someone who can make a killer pass who has pace) plus another striker who could either play off Ulloa or lead the line. Seeing Zamora's impact for QPR against Wigan was mouth watering... However I am sure whoever Bloom appoints as the new Manager will have his own ideas and no doubt we will have to be patient in waiting for players to be signed. I hope that we recruit players sooner rather than later certainly in time for the club's trip to Spain. I equally hope that we don't have to wait till the end of August. Worryingly Bloom said in an interview on BBC Radio (today) that new players would join 'by the end of August' ! Of course the most important acquisition will be the new Manager (and his team). I await developments on both the playing and coaching fronts.[/p][/quote]With regard to a midfielder, I'd like to see the club make another attempt to bring Adam Clayton in from Huddersfield, absolute quality and an excellent leader. I know Albion failed when trying to secure him in January, subsequently bringing in Dale Stephens, but he has something of Nobby Horton about him (obviously not that good) and would be a great addition to our midfield, although it's rumoured that both Cardiff and Norwich want to sign him. dave from bexill
  • Score: 6

5:55pm Wed 14 May 14

challster says...

Hernandez. If Man U have a clearout !
Hernandez. If Man U have a clearout ! challster
  • Score: -4

6:01pm Wed 14 May 14

arc12 says...

Joe Coe for Midfield
Joe Coe for Midfield arc12
  • Score: 7

6:02pm Wed 14 May 14

arc12 says...

Or Joe Cole!
Or Joe Cole! arc12
  • Score: 7

6:02pm Wed 14 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Problem is you all want to sign players who are on better money probably than we would offer!
Joe Cole would be target 1
Speroni 2
Ward 3. ( however he apparently is being looked at by Reading.
Glen Murray. ( won't figure under pulis)

Loans lingard , chambola and the huge Chelsea under 18 captain, 6 4" power house midfield player.
But the word we need to know is budget?
Problem is you all want to sign players who are on better money probably than we would offer! Joe Cole would be target 1 Speroni 2 Ward 3. ( however he apparently is being looked at by Reading. Glen Murray. ( won't figure under pulis) Loans lingard , chambola and the huge Chelsea under 18 captain, 6 4" power house midfield player. But the word we need to know is budget? mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

6:13pm Wed 14 May 14

namgo49 says...

markymark03 wrote:
Stech - GK - Yeovil
Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil
Max Clayton - ST - Orient
Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley
Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea

and of course Bobby Z!
It would be a massive mistake resigning BZ. As a general rule, it never works & specifically, he is always injured.
[quote][p][bold]markymark03[/bold] wrote: Stech - GK - Yeovil Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil Max Clayton - ST - Orient Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea and of course Bobby Z![/p][/quote]It would be a massive mistake resigning BZ. As a general rule, it never works & specifically, he is always injured. namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:13pm Wed 14 May 14

WestStander17 says...

Joe Cole would be great if playing the same style.

Need a keeper. Is Walton anywhere near being first team ready?

Always liked the Middlesbrough captain, Leadbitter is it?

Would be good to get Ward in but I wouldn't want to use loads of wage bill on him.

Bobby Z.
Joe Cole would be great if playing the same style. Need a keeper. Is Walton anywhere near being first team ready? Always liked the Middlesbrough captain, Leadbitter is it? Would be good to get Ward in but I wouldn't want to use loads of wage bill on him. Bobby Z. WestStander17
  • Score: 5

6:18pm Wed 14 May 14

mark by the sea says...

WestStander17 wrote:
Joe Cole would be great if playing the same style.

Need a keeper. Is Walton anywhere near being first team ready?

Always liked the Middlesbrough captain, Leadbitter is it?

Would be good to get Ward in but I wouldn't want to use loads of wage bill on him.

Bobby Z.
Walton needs to get some lower league experience, then it's about confidence ..
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: Joe Cole would be great if playing the same style. Need a keeper. Is Walton anywhere near being first team ready? Always liked the Middlesbrough captain, Leadbitter is it? Would be good to get Ward in but I wouldn't want to use loads of wage bill on him. Bobby Z.[/p][/quote]Walton needs to get some lower league experience, then it's about confidence .. mark by the sea
  • Score: 4

6:22pm Wed 14 May 14

Hugothepug says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Matty Fryatt from Hull. Guaranteed goalscorer at Championship level.
Defo - great shout, been saying this for ages - good stats!!
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Matty Fryatt from Hull. Guaranteed goalscorer at Championship level.[/p][/quote]Defo - great shout, been saying this for ages - good stats!! Hugothepug
  • Score: 6

6:23pm Wed 14 May 14

mark by the sea says...

I would think wages for the 6 named would come to 3 million plus a year,
I think we could replace those named with 4 .. Hoskins rodders hardly played any games during there stays.
I would think wages for the 6 named would come to 3 million plus a year, I think we could replace those named with 4 .. Hoskins rodders hardly played any games during there stays. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Wed 14 May 14

WestStander17 says...

namgo49 wrote:
markymark03 wrote:
Stech - GK - Yeovil
Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil
Max Clayton - ST - Orient
Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley
Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea

and of course Bobby Z!
It would be a massive mistake resigning BZ. As a general rule, it never works & specifically, he is always injured.
I think Bobby Z time sharing with Leo would be great for both of them.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markymark03[/bold] wrote: Stech - GK - Yeovil Sam Hosken - MF -Yeovil Max Clayton - ST - Orient Dale Jenning - LM - Barnsley Nathan Ake - CB - Chelsea and of course Bobby Z![/p][/quote]It would be a massive mistake resigning BZ. As a general rule, it never works & specifically, he is always injured.[/p][/quote]I think Bobby Z time sharing with Leo would be great for both of them. WestStander17
  • Score: 4

6:33pm Wed 14 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

To baldly go says...

No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.

Sound sense ! I hope that the club make Bruno and Calde offers they CAN refuse ! Too old, they should have been shown the door.
To baldly go says... No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo. Sound sense ! I hope that the club make Bruno and Calde offers they CAN refuse ! Too old, they should have been shown the door. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 1

6:35pm Wed 14 May 14

lotsofducks says...

To baldly go wrote:
No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.
"... we were run ragged in defence at times this season" - that why we had the second best defence in the division! And re "dads' army", we're losing TK (32), but retaining Greer and Upon who are both older. And Orlandi's going, who's hardly Capt. Mainwaring! Still, it is all about who we get a replacements, so we'll have to wait and see...
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.[/p][/quote]"... we were run ragged in defence at times this season" - that why we had the second best defence in the division! And re "dads' army", we're losing TK (32), but retaining Greer and Upon who are both older. And Orlandi's going, who's hardly Capt. Mainwaring! Still, it is all about who we get a replacements, so we'll have to wait and see... lotsofducks
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Wed 14 May 14

Phillip Smith says...

I would like to see us sign Chris Wood of Leicester. We would need to make a sizable offer to get him though. Would like to see us sign a decent keeper from the lower leagues perhaps. A good British keeper with some potential. I would also like to see us go for Jose Riga as manager as I think he’s done an incredible job since taking over at Charlton. We may have to pay a bit of compensation though. Failing that would quite like to see Zola given a chance (although I doubt whether he or Di Matteo would touch the job as Poyet would have warned them about the fact that they will have absolutely no say on transfer dealings whatsoever)
I would like to see us sign Chris Wood of Leicester. We would need to make a sizable offer to get him though. Would like to see us sign a decent keeper from the lower leagues perhaps. A good British keeper with some potential. I would also like to see us go for Jose Riga as manager as I think he’s done an incredible job since taking over at Charlton. We may have to pay a bit of compensation though. Failing that would quite like to see Zola given a chance (although I doubt whether he or Di Matteo would touch the job as Poyet would have warned them about the fact that they will have absolutely no say on transfer dealings whatsoever) Phillip Smith
  • Score: 2

6:37pm Wed 14 May 14

NathanAdler says...

Messi, Bale, Suarez, Aguero, Fabregas, Modric and Gerrard.

What a ridiculous comments section!
Messi, Bale, Suarez, Aguero, Fabregas, Modric and Gerrard. What a ridiculous comments section! NathanAdler
  • Score: 2

6:37pm Wed 14 May 14

bbb1969 says...

Oscar's Chin wrote:
Stephen Ward, Lingard on season loan, good goalie (first choice), Joe Cole, another creative midfielder and a commanding 25 year old CB.
Agtee with this and then use the 4 or so ds younsters a go. We would not have given them contracts if they were not ready for the first team. Assess them over pre season.
[quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: Stephen Ward, Lingard on season loan, good goalie (first choice), Joe Cole, another creative midfielder and a commanding 25 year old CB.[/p][/quote]Agtee with this and then use the 4 or so ds younsters a go. We would not have given them contracts if they were not ready for the first team. Assess them over pre season. bbb1969
  • Score: 1

6:39pm Wed 14 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I guess the number of players we are going to need will largely depend on our new manager, will he continue with Solly, JFC and Ince as starters, Ince maybe but the others, not sure.
Six have gone and we were two short anyway, Lingard covered one of those shortages, add replacements for two of the young lads and we are looking for ten new players, 'IF,' we don't sell anyone. With Andrews now gone and if we don't manage to sign Ward, that makes it an even dozen.
Buckley is still under contract but oh so injury prone, the new manager might have a problem with that.
Oscar elevated the status of the three youngsters because he had no other option, and they did well, but would a new manager accept being forced to play what were DS players. Stephens will start along with Crofts, once he is fit, and Ince stands a good chance of starting, but I think that we might need another Ince type but with more experience, Solly and JFC become back up.
I guess the number of players we are going to need will largely depend on our new manager, will he continue with Solly, JFC and Ince as starters, Ince maybe but the others, not sure. Six have gone and we were two short anyway, Lingard covered one of those shortages, add replacements for two of the young lads and we are looking for ten new players, 'IF,' we don't sell anyone. With Andrews now gone and if we don't manage to sign Ward, that makes it an even dozen. Buckley is still under contract but oh so injury prone, the new manager might have a problem with that. Oscar elevated the status of the three youngsters because he had no other option, and they did well, but would a new manager accept being forced to play what were DS players. Stephens will start along with Crofts, once he is fit, and Ince stands a good chance of starting, but I think that we might need another Ince type but with more experience, Solly and JFC become back up. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

6:52pm Wed 14 May 14

To baldly go says...

Stating the obvious I know, but, we need to look at those teams relegated from the championship and try to pick up their best young players, same with those promoted to the prem, they will have a surplus of players to get rid of. Don't have any names of players myself but I am sure some that have been quoted on here are worth looking at!
Do we need Ward in all honesty! he is still on prem wages and would cost upwards of £1m to buy, we have Chicksen and Maksimenko for the left back position and the money could be better spent on the other positions for me.
If Ulloa goes for the £6m as is being touted around, that would leave us light up front yet again, but, that money along with what is already in the kitty should allow us to bring in quality in all positions imo.
Becchio must want out from where he is at the moment, Lita has been released and what about getting Chris Woods in px for Ulloa, with Cms fit that would be 3 or 4 strikers on the books to choose from and wouldn't cost the earth, we could play the 2 up front like the teams that got promoted this year and score more goals!
We need a quality keeper without doubt, but who? I don't think for one minute the club thinks Casper is up to being our no1, and Walken needs to step up next season for me, push to get on the bench and dare I say it, play in the cup match's.
Wide players I think we are ok for, March, Buckley, LuaLua and Dickenson.
Midfielders, Ince, Crofts, Stevens, Agustien and Jfc, we just need that player with a certain Vicente flair, but they are expensive and rare.
So that leaves the right back and centre back position, if we persist with the Greer /Upson pairing Dunk will go imo, and where will that leave us, so do we pair Dunk with Upson or Greer and have one of the old guard on the bench! And we will still need a 4th CB either way. Bruno for me is a liability at right back, and leaves others exposed, Caldi is a better defender but lacks pace and will only get slower imo. A fresh face at RB with Caldi still as cover is my preferred way to go. Just my thoughts, and I am sure not to everyone's taste but that's how I see it. Restart the 5yr plan with a new manager and squad and go from there!
Stating the obvious I know, but, we need to look at those teams relegated from the championship and try to pick up their best young players, same with those promoted to the prem, they will have a surplus of players to get rid of. Don't have any names of players myself but I am sure some that have been quoted on here are worth looking at! Do we need Ward in all honesty! he is still on prem wages and would cost upwards of £1m to buy, we have Chicksen and Maksimenko for the left back position and the money could be better spent on the other positions for me. If Ulloa goes for the £6m as is being touted around, that would leave us light up front yet again, but, that money along with what is already in the kitty should allow us to bring in quality in all positions imo. Becchio must want out from where he is at the moment, Lita has been released and what about getting Chris Woods in px for Ulloa, with Cms fit that would be 3 or 4 strikers on the books to choose from and wouldn't cost the earth, we could play the 2 up front like the teams that got promoted this year and score more goals! We need a quality keeper without doubt, but who? I don't think for one minute the club thinks Casper is up to being our no1, and Walken needs to step up next season for me, push to get on the bench and dare I say it, play in the cup match's. Wide players I think we are ok for, March, Buckley, LuaLua and Dickenson. Midfielders, Ince, Crofts, Stevens, Agustien and Jfc, we just need that player with a certain Vicente flair, but they are expensive and rare. So that leaves the right back and centre back position, if we persist with the Greer /Upson pairing Dunk will go imo, and where will that leave us, so do we pair Dunk with Upson or Greer and have one of the old guard on the bench! And we will still need a 4th CB either way. Bruno for me is a liability at right back, and leaves others exposed, Caldi is a better defender but lacks pace and will only get slower imo. A fresh face at RB with Caldi still as cover is my preferred way to go. Just my thoughts, and I am sure not to everyone's taste but that's how I see it. Restart the 5yr plan with a new manager and squad and go from there! To baldly go
  • Score: 11

7:02pm Wed 14 May 14

hey mongo says...

Joe coles already signed wait for the announcement...
Joe coles already signed wait for the announcement... hey mongo
  • Score: -6

7:03pm Wed 14 May 14

sean04 says...

Getting Ward back permanently is a must, a keeper like Alex Smithies of Huddersfield or Jason Steele at Boro' would be very welcome!
Getting Ward back permanently is a must, a keeper like Alex Smithies of Huddersfield or Jason Steele at Boro' would be very welcome! sean04
  • Score: 2

7:08pm Wed 14 May 14

Mancgulled says...

challster wrote:
Hernandez. If Man U have a clearout !
If you want someone from my hometown then maybe loan James Wilson looks a great prospect - get Jessie to persuade him! But lets face it under Louis Van Gaal neither will ever be seen at Trafford again .....
[quote][p][bold]challster[/bold] wrote: Hernandez. If Man U have a clearout ![/p][/quote]If you want someone from my hometown then maybe loan James Wilson looks a great prospect - get Jessie to persuade him! But lets face it under Louis Van Gaal neither will ever be seen at Trafford again ..... Mancgulled
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Wed 14 May 14

London Dave says...

First we a manager/coach who can implement a system and philosophy of football that will get us out of the Championship. Then he can pick players suited to fit that system.

Most Brighton fans probably groan every time the opposition scores first, because that inevitably means we will only get a draw at best out of the game. This costs us so many points.

If instead we play a bright, fast, counter attacking style of football that enables us to convert a reasonable number of 1-0 deficits into 3 points during the course of the season, then that could make all the difference.

Expecting a different result next season with more of the same sort of stuff(however pleasing on the eye) is the proverbial definition of insanity!
First we a manager/coach who can implement a system and philosophy of football that will get us out of the Championship. Then he can pick players suited to fit that system. Most Brighton fans probably groan every time the opposition scores first, because that inevitably means we will only get a draw at best out of the game. This costs us so many points. If instead we play a bright, fast, counter attacking style of football that enables us to convert a reasonable number of 1-0 deficits into 3 points during the course of the season, then that could make all the difference. Expecting a different result next season with more of the same sort of stuff(however pleasing on the eye) is the proverbial definition of insanity! London Dave
  • Score: 3

7:19pm Wed 14 May 14

London Dave says...

First we need a manager/coach who can implement a system and philosophy of football that will get us out of the Championship. Then he can pick players suited to fit that system.

Most Brighton fans probably groan every time the opposition scores first, because that inevitably means we will only get a draw at best out of the game. This costs us so many points.

If instead we play a bright, fast, counter attacking style of football that enables us to convert a reasonable number of 1-0 deficits into 3 points during the course of the season, then that could make all the difference.

Expecting a different result next season with more of the same sort of stuff(however pleasing on the eye) is the proverbial definition of insanity!
First we need a manager/coach who can implement a system and philosophy of football that will get us out of the Championship. Then he can pick players suited to fit that system. Most Brighton fans probably groan every time the opposition scores first, because that inevitably means we will only get a draw at best out of the game. This costs us so many points. If instead we play a bright, fast, counter attacking style of football that enables us to convert a reasonable number of 1-0 deficits into 3 points during the course of the season, then that could make all the difference. Expecting a different result next season with more of the same sort of stuff(however pleasing on the eye) is the proverbial definition of insanity! London Dave
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Wed 14 May 14

ballantrrae says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/He

's addressing the whole of Worthing?I agree that Bloom's interview is definitely worth listening to.
Bloom praises Oscar for what he achieved and says he was disappointed to lose him. He seems to acknowledge that Oscar had from his perspective issues on the recruitment front but that targets weren't available and that he (TB) and DB, because of communications difficulties, weren't always sure exactly what Oscar wanted.
TB confirms that there are good quality candidates for the Manager's position and that he is looking at a wide range of options in terms of experience and background - not that I can see him appointing anyone again without a good command of English. He went on to say 'I want the best Manager for Brighton' and indicated that (within reason) he would pay whatever salary was necessary to get that person.
TB also said there would be active player recruitment this summer with players being signed 'before the end of August'.
Having listened to the interview I was reassured that TB has a clear strategy of how to proceed and as a result I am looking forward to the new season.
So 3rd time lucky. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Worthing listening to Tony Bloom. On the whole I'm much happier about the club and its situation than I was 30 minutes ago. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/He 's addressing the whole of Worthing?[/p][/quote]I agree that Bloom's interview is definitely worth listening to. Bloom praises Oscar for what he achieved and says he was disappointed to lose him. He seems to acknowledge that Oscar had from his perspective issues on the recruitment front but that targets weren't available and that he (TB) and DB, because of communications difficulties, weren't always sure exactly what Oscar wanted. TB confirms that there are good quality candidates for the Manager's position and that he is looking at a wide range of options in terms of experience and background - not that I can see him appointing anyone again without a good command of English. He went on to say 'I want the best Manager for Brighton' and indicated that (within reason) he would pay whatever salary was necessary to get that person. TB also said there would be active player recruitment this summer with players being signed 'before the end of August'. Having listened to the interview I was reassured that TB has a clear strategy of how to proceed and as a result I am looking forward to the new season. So 3rd time lucky. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

7:48pm Wed 14 May 14

To baldly go says...

lotsofducks wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.
"... we were run ragged in defence at times this season" - that why we had the second best defence in the division! And re "dads' army", we're losing TK (32), but retaining Greer and Upon who are both older. And Orlandi's going, who's hardly Capt. Mainwaring! Still, it is all about who we get a replacements, so we'll have to wait and see...
We all know how many goals we conceded, the point I was making was that at times, and quite a few of them as it happens, our defence couldn't cope, not all of these failures to defend led to a goal but showed how fragile we were when the right tactics were used against us, and can you see Bruno, Greer, Upson and Caldi improving! No disrespect to any of them but they are on the wane and in trying to play at this level will only injure themselves (like Bridge did at Reading) and/or drop us in it as it were! Orlandi is good when fit, much like Buckley, but the wage he was on was probably part of the reason in him going. Keepers are at there peak around 30 so TK knows this is probably his last chance to play in the prem so good luck to him, a hard act to follow but who knows what's round the corner and like you say, we will have to wait and see!
[quote][p][bold]lotsofducks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: No disrespect to the 4 that might be offered new deals but their combined age is 135yrs, we were run ragged in defence at times this season which will only get worse next season if we persist with the dad's army approach! We can't afford to be sentimental, we need to look to the future and develop a new younger squad that will do a Derby and get us to where we want to be without breaking the bank. Our squad was built 3 yrs ago to get us promoted, we didn't quite make it and now that we have missed that boat with them we must regroup all round. New young manager and a new young team and start the 5yr plan again imo.[/p][/quote]"... we were run ragged in defence at times this season" - that why we had the second best defence in the division! And re "dads' army", we're losing TK (32), but retaining Greer and Upon who are both older. And Orlandi's going, who's hardly Capt. Mainwaring! Still, it is all about who we get a replacements, so we'll have to wait and see...[/p][/quote]We all know how many goals we conceded, the point I was making was that at times, and quite a few of them as it happens, our defence couldn't cope, not all of these failures to defend led to a goal but showed how fragile we were when the right tactics were used against us, and can you see Bruno, Greer, Upson and Caldi improving! No disrespect to any of them but they are on the wane and in trying to play at this level will only injure themselves (like Bridge did at Reading) and/or drop us in it as it were! Orlandi is good when fit, much like Buckley, but the wage he was on was probably part of the reason in him going. Keepers are at there peak around 30 so TK knows this is probably his last chance to play in the prem so good luck to him, a hard act to follow but who knows what's round the corner and like you say, we will have to wait and see! To baldly go
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Wed 14 May 14

pte says...

Well, if they want to go back for Grabban, his release clause will have been increased when he signed his new contract.

Tony expressed his full confidence in DB. To me he gave a stuttering and embarrassed performance of rehearsed platitudes. When asked why OG left he avoided answering but was later pinned down to give an explanation.

Not impressed by his performance which was weak. My guess is he gives in to easily to DB and PB and OG because of his lack of English was unable to make TB understand. He couldnt have a quiet word in his ear because he had to go through NJ his translator. Maybe TB never saw it coming till it was too late.

Listen to the tape a second time and you will get a better feel of it
Well, if they want to go back for Grabban, his release clause will have been increased when he signed his new contract. Tony expressed his full confidence in DB. To me he gave a stuttering and embarrassed performance of rehearsed platitudes. When asked why OG left he avoided answering but was later pinned down to give an explanation. Not impressed by his performance which was weak. My guess is he gives in to easily to DB and PB and OG because of his lack of English was unable to make TB understand. He couldnt have a quiet word in his ear because he had to go through NJ his translator. Maybe TB never saw it coming till it was too late. Listen to the tape a second time and you will get a better feel of it pte
  • Score: -8

8:04pm Wed 14 May 14

Withdean-er says...

A good proven goalie.

Stephen Ward.

A centre-half with pace.

Then in midfield and upfront, proven playerS (plural) with pace to burn, with reasonable injury records. No more veterans and not too many youngsters for whom its marginal whether they will ever cut it at Championship level.

(In other words, several recruits, to totally redress the inherent problems this season).
A good proven goalie. Stephen Ward. A centre-half with pace. Then in midfield and upfront, proven playerS (plural) with pace to burn, with reasonable injury records. No more veterans and not too many youngsters for whom its marginal whether they will ever cut it at Championship level. (In other words, several recruits, to totally redress the inherent problems this season). Withdean-er
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Wed 14 May 14

Marky24 says...

Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury
McCourt-Barnsley
Sorensen - Stoke
Danny fox -saints
Fraser Richardson -mboro
Etherington-Stoke
Cole-west ham
Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back
Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury McCourt-Barnsley Sorensen - Stoke Danny fox -saints Fraser Richardson -mboro Etherington-Stoke Cole-west ham Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back Marky24
  • Score: -2

8:13pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

Lets try and get Murray back.
Lets try and get Murray back. ringtone
  • Score: -8

8:16pm Wed 14 May 14

mikeygit says...

On theTony Bloom interview---which I have just listened to--I guess we really could have expected what he said. Obvious there communication problems with Oscar and because of that he could never speak to Tony in private and in confidence. Bit disappointed Tony was not pressed more on the Fair Play Rules---but guys and gals, have a listen to it and make your own minds up. i also am of the opinion that if/when Tony addresses the Fans he will say much the same. But for me a reasonable interview with no surprises but I still think things have to change at the Club--and one of those things is for the new manager to have more control and a better working relationship with Tweadle Dee and Tweadle Dum!!
On theTony Bloom interview---which I have just listened to--I guess we really could have expected what he said. Obvious there communication problems with Oscar and because of that he could never speak to Tony in private and in confidence. Bit disappointed Tony was not pressed more on the Fair Play Rules---but guys and gals, have a listen to it and make your own minds up. i also am of the opinion that if/when Tony addresses the Fans he will say much the same. But for me a reasonable interview with no surprises but I still think things have to change at the Club--and one of those things is for the new manager to have more control and a better working relationship with Tweadle Dee and Tweadle Dum!! mikeygit
  • Score: 8

8:18pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

Marky24 wrote:
Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury
McCourt-Barnsley
Sorensen - Stoke
Danny fox -saints
Fraser Richardson -mboro
Etherington-Stoke
Cole-west ham
Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back
interesting names, but by saying joe cole it tells me you know nothing.

IF you meant carlton cole that might be a bit better.
[quote][p][bold]Marky24[/bold] wrote: Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury McCourt-Barnsley Sorensen - Stoke Danny fox -saints Fraser Richardson -mboro Etherington-Stoke Cole-west ham Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back[/p][/quote]interesting names, but by saying joe cole it tells me you know nothing. IF you meant carlton cole that might be a bit better. ringtone
  • Score: -6

8:23pm Wed 14 May 14

Marky24 says...

Cork-saints
Cork-saints Marky24
  • Score: -1

8:26pm Wed 14 May 14

Marky24 says...

Mcclean-Sunderland/W
igan not sure who owned him but he's a hard **** and needs to mix things up
Mcclean-Sunderland/W igan not sure who owned him but he's a hard **** and needs to mix things up Marky24
  • Score: -1

8:29pm Wed 14 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Marky24 wrote:
Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury
McCourt-Barnsley
Sorensen - Stoke
Danny fox -saints
Fraser Richardson -mboro
Etherington-Stoke
Cole-west ham
Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back
Apols, accidentally pressed thumbs down instead of quote!

A good selection, but I've just checked the Shrewsbury page on the Beeb and JT is one of only 10 currently contracted players, so they might want to leave it a bit before he goes :-) Also it appears he's about 5'0", which doesn't do much good for the average height of our team!

Sorensen - decent player not getting a game.
Fox - looked good a couple of years ago. Has he gone backwards since?
Etherington - won't go down well with some as he'll be 33 by the time the season starts.
Cole - love to see it but can't.
Smith - missed B'mouth's visit but my father was there so I'll ask his opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Marky24[/bold] wrote: Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury McCourt-Barnsley Sorensen - Stoke Danny fox -saints Fraser Richardson -mboro Etherington-Stoke Cole-west ham Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back[/p][/quote]Apols, accidentally pressed thumbs down instead of quote! A good selection, but I've just checked the Shrewsbury page on the Beeb and JT is one of only 10 currently contracted players, so they might want to leave it a bit before he goes :-) Also it appears he's about 5'0", which doesn't do much good for the average height of our team! Sorensen - decent player not getting a game. Fox - looked good a couple of years ago. Has he gone backwards since? Etherington - won't go down well with some as he'll be 33 by the time the season starts. Cole - love to see it but can't. Smith - missed B'mouth's visit but my father was there so I'll ask his opinion. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Wed 14 May 14

Neville says...

I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree.
I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season.
He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line.
I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely.
I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy.
He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again.
OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.
I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree. I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season. He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line. I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely. I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy. He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again. OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best. Neville
  • Score: 11

8:32pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Marky24 wrote:
Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury
McCourt-Barnsley
Sorensen - Stoke
Danny fox -saints
Fraser Richardson -mboro
Etherington-Stoke
Cole-west ham
Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back
Apols, accidentally pressed thumbs down instead of quote!

A good selection, but I've just checked the Shrewsbury page on the Beeb and JT is one of only 10 currently contracted players, so they might want to leave it a bit before he goes :-) Also it appears he's about 5'0", which doesn't do much good for the average height of our team!

Sorensen - decent player not getting a game.
Fox - looked good a couple of years ago. Has he gone backwards since?
Etherington - won't go down well with some as he'll be 33 by the time the season starts.
Cole - love to see it but can't.
Smith - missed B'mouth's visit but my father was there so I'll ask his opinion.
Do you really see joe cole bustin a gut trying to prove himself in the championship after being on 90 grand a week at liverpool.

Arnie i thought you where a fool, now i know you are.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marky24[/bold] wrote: Jon Taylor - Shrewsbury McCourt-Barnsley Sorensen - Stoke Danny fox -saints Fraser Richardson -mboro Etherington-Stoke Cole-west ham Adam smith- bmouth is a brilliant right back[/p][/quote]Apols, accidentally pressed thumbs down instead of quote! A good selection, but I've just checked the Shrewsbury page on the Beeb and JT is one of only 10 currently contracted players, so they might want to leave it a bit before he goes :-) Also it appears he's about 5'0", which doesn't do much good for the average height of our team! Sorensen - decent player not getting a game. Fox - looked good a couple of years ago. Has he gone backwards since? Etherington - won't go down well with some as he'll be 33 by the time the season starts. Cole - love to see it but can't. Smith - missed B'mouth's visit but my father was there so I'll ask his opinion.[/p][/quote]Do you really see joe cole bustin a gut trying to prove himself in the championship after being on 90 grand a week at liverpool. Arnie i thought you where a fool, now i know you are. ringtone
  • Score: -5

8:45pm Wed 14 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

With the existence of the FFP, and all clubs, agents and players knowing of it's implications, those players stepping down from the prem will have to realistic with their demands.
It's true to say that some of the clubs will have parachute payments, but those clubs coming down will also have to pay off some of their contracted high earners. Those same clubs will have to sell one or two contracted stars at a loss, much as QPR had to at the start of their season. With prem clubs allowed to operate at around 38 million loss under the FFP, relegated clubs will have some huge cuts in losses to make in their first year to comply with the lower permitted loss figure.

The clubs with parachute payments we have to be concerned with are those that have already got past their first year, if they did the right things during the season just past. If QPR don't go up, they are in deep doo doo.
With the existence of the FFP, and all clubs, agents and players knowing of it's implications, those players stepping down from the prem will have to realistic with their demands. It's true to say that some of the clubs will have parachute payments, but those clubs coming down will also have to pay off some of their contracted high earners. Those same clubs will have to sell one or two contracted stars at a loss, much as QPR had to at the start of their season. With prem clubs allowed to operate at around 38 million loss under the FFP, relegated clubs will have some huge cuts in losses to make in their first year to comply with the lower permitted loss figure. The clubs with parachute payments we have to be concerned with are those that have already got past their first year, if they did the right things during the season just past. If QPR don't go up, they are in deep doo doo. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

8:53pm Wed 14 May 14

bha-till-i-die says...

If we are going to stick with financial fair play then really we need to be buying free agents for example Dan Gosling who has been linked with Bournemouth. And to attract them offer them higher wages because we have got spare money from not buying them. I know its not easy but I also agree with comments above about chalobah on loan and viviano. Also complete a deal for lewis Grabban. Finally I think with our limited budget compared to other teams we should be looking at players from league one ready to make the step up. Such as Alex Pritchard who got league 1 player of the season. We could loan him from Tottenham. Maybe also a look at:
Adam forshaw
Callum Harriot
Jamie vardy
Chris wood
David McGoldrick
Andre Wisdom
Chris O'Grady
Jed Wallace
Troy Feeney
Tommy Smith
Luke Ayling
Byram Webster
If we are going to stick with financial fair play then really we need to be buying free agents for example Dan Gosling who has been linked with Bournemouth. And to attract them offer them higher wages because we have got spare money from not buying them. I know its not easy but I also agree with comments above about chalobah on loan and viviano. Also complete a deal for lewis Grabban. Finally I think with our limited budget compared to other teams we should be looking at players from league one ready to make the step up. Such as Alex Pritchard who got league 1 player of the season. We could loan him from Tottenham. Maybe also a look at: Adam forshaw Callum Harriot Jamie vardy Chris wood David McGoldrick Andre Wisdom Chris O'Grady Jed Wallace Troy Feeney Tommy Smith Luke Ayling Byram Webster bha-till-i-die
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
With the existence of the FFP, and all clubs, agents and players knowing of it's implications, those players stepping down from the prem will have to realistic with their demands.
It's true to say that some of the clubs will have parachute payments, but those clubs coming down will also have to pay off some of their contracted high earners. Those same clubs will have to sell one or two contracted stars at a loss, much as QPR had to at the start of their season. With prem clubs allowed to operate at around 38 million loss under the FFP, relegated clubs will have some huge cuts in losses to make in their first year to comply with the lower permitted loss figure.

The clubs with parachute payments we have to be concerned with are those that have already got past their first year, if they did the right things during the season just past. If QPR don't go up, they are in deep doo doo.
Why do you bother Vegas, you are an intelligent man.

Its the same old clubs winning the honours, it all seems so futile.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: With the existence of the FFP, and all clubs, agents and players knowing of it's implications, those players stepping down from the prem will have to realistic with their demands. It's true to say that some of the clubs will have parachute payments, but those clubs coming down will also have to pay off some of their contracted high earners. Those same clubs will have to sell one or two contracted stars at a loss, much as QPR had to at the start of their season. With prem clubs allowed to operate at around 38 million loss under the FFP, relegated clubs will have some huge cuts in losses to make in their first year to comply with the lower permitted loss figure. The clubs with parachute payments we have to be concerned with are those that have already got past their first year, if they did the right things during the season just past. If QPR don't go up, they are in deep doo doo.[/p][/quote]Why do you bother Vegas, you are an intelligent man. Its the same old clubs winning the honours, it all seems so futile. ringtone
  • Score: -7

9:04pm Wed 14 May 14

MrHove says...

impossible to answer without knowing who the new manager will be and what system they will play.
obviously a new goalie should be priority, whoever comes in though will have their own ideas and players in mind.

On a seperate note, i hope the new manager is appointed asap to begin re-building the squad.
impossible to answer without knowing who the new manager will be and what system they will play. obviously a new goalie should be priority, whoever comes in though will have their own ideas and players in mind. On a seperate note, i hope the new manager is appointed asap to begin re-building the squad. MrHove
  • Score: 1

9:13pm Wed 14 May 14

Marky24 says...

Final one matt Taylor west ham good utility player with prem experience
Final one matt Taylor west ham good utility player with prem experience Marky24
  • Score: -1

9:17pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

Marky24 wrote:
Final one matt Taylor west ham good utility player with prem experience
Blimey your thinking big.

I cant wait to renew my season ticket, just hope the old ticker does not give up due to the excrement, i mean excitement.
[quote][p][bold]Marky24[/bold] wrote: Final one matt Taylor west ham good utility player with prem experience[/p][/quote]Blimey your thinking big. I cant wait to renew my season ticket, just hope the old ticker does not give up due to the excrement, i mean excitement. ringtone
  • Score: 0

9:37pm Wed 14 May 14

Marky24 says...

Pilkington -Norwich
Judge- Blackburn
If sherwood takes over we Wil get promoted along with Stuart pearces forest next season with us as champs!
Pilkington -Norwich Judge- Blackburn If sherwood takes over we Wil get promoted along with Stuart pearces forest next season with us as champs! Marky24
  • Score: -4

9:42pm Wed 14 May 14

ringtone says...

Marky24 wrote:
Pilkington -Norwich
Judge- Blackburn
If sherwood takes over we Wil get promoted along with Stuart pearces forest next season with us as champs!
How old are you 10,11?

Please dont insult Myself,arnie and Vegas.
[quote][p][bold]Marky24[/bold] wrote: Pilkington -Norwich Judge- Blackburn If sherwood takes over we Wil get promoted along with Stuart pearces forest next season with us as champs![/p][/quote]How old are you 10,11? Please dont insult Myself,arnie and Vegas. ringtone
  • Score: -4

10:31pm Wed 14 May 14

gordongull says...

Depends on the Manager, as pointed out by MrHove, and the effects of FFP, as pointed out by Vegas.
That is provided David Burke and Nathan Jones don't build a team in advance of the new appointment!
The transfer market promises to be more volatile than in usual seasons, if enough clubs take on the responsibilities of FFP. Player fees and wages could be reduced to levels not seen for over a decade, but distortions in the Premier League continue to be squeezed into the Championship in the form of parachute payments. Many of the best available players will go to the ten or eleven clubs who will be receiving the payments next season.

Apologies to the Argus if my posts that were taken down at the Weekend were a little too controversial.
Depends on the Manager, as pointed out by MrHove, and the effects of FFP, as pointed out by Vegas. That is provided David Burke and Nathan Jones don't build a team in advance of the new appointment! The transfer market promises to be more volatile than in usual seasons, if enough clubs take on the responsibilities of FFP. Player fees and wages could be reduced to levels not seen for over a decade, but distortions in the Premier League continue to be squeezed into the Championship in the form of parachute payments. Many of the best available players will go to the ten or eleven clubs who will be receiving the payments next season. Apologies to the Argus if my posts that were taken down at the Weekend were a little too controversial. gordongull
  • Score: 1

11:13pm Wed 14 May 14

pte says...

Neville wrote:
I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree.
I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season.
He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line.
I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely.
I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy.
He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again.
OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.
Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back.

People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign.

It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack!

OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management.

I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B

I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview.

I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree. I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season. He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line. I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely. I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy. He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again. OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.[/p][/quote]Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back. People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign. It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack! OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management. I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview. I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches pte
  • Score: 5

11:19pm Wed 14 May 14

pte says...

He also said he wasn't in a rush to choose a manager! When asked about player recruitment in the meantime he said DB was handling that. Then realizing the gaff quickly added but the final decision would wait till the manager was appointed.

Oh dear!
He also said he wasn't in a rush to choose a manager! When asked about player recruitment in the meantime he said DB was handling that. Then realizing the gaff quickly added but the final decision would wait till the manager was appointed. Oh dear! pte
  • Score: 3

11:32pm Wed 14 May 14

gordongull says...

So David Burke is recruiting players with Nathan Jones acting as a consultant.
The title of 'Head Coach' or 'Manager' is irrelevant, as we have been told the responsibilities are identical.
This arrangement will not inspire confidence in potential candidates, and looks likely to be a continuing source of friction for whoever gets the job.
So David Burke is recruiting players with Nathan Jones acting as a consultant. The title of 'Head Coach' or 'Manager' is irrelevant, as we have been told the responsibilities are identical. This arrangement will not inspire confidence in potential candidates, and looks likely to be a continuing source of friction for whoever gets the job. gordongull
  • Score: 3

11:32pm Wed 14 May 14

mark by the sea says...

pte wrote:
Neville wrote:
I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree.
I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season.
He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line.
I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely.
I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy.
He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again.
OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.
Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back.

People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign.

It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack!

OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management.

I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B

I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview.

I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches
But your listening to TB and assuming he is telling the truth? Translation a problem? What was jones doing while these conversations took place?
Players not available ? What all of them? Lol
Reading between the lines, jones was meant to be assistant to OG , however more like a go between Burke and TB ..
Most of the signings have been Swansea based, Stephens obika all jones men!
We then had Spanish Rodney ? Who the hell spotted him? The club he was at released him from his contract to join the Albion? Why ? If he was any good , surely they would ask a fee?
The players made noises in jan which kind of supports the " no players available concern of OG !
The loan signing of lingard ( with guarantee of a start each game) was a token signing to stop OG resigning I believe ..
What now of jones? Who would want him as number 2..?
No mention of jones or Burke in OG farewell statement? I thought they would be best buddies with jones as translator?
Sadly again just like Gus , more questions than facts,
TB is not stupid, that interview was pure PR
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree. I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season. He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line. I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely. I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy. He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again. OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.[/p][/quote]Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back. People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign. It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack! OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management. I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview. I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches[/p][/quote]But your listening to TB and assuming he is telling the truth? Translation a problem? What was jones doing while these conversations took place? Players not available ? What all of them? Lol Reading between the lines, jones was meant to be assistant to OG , however more like a go between Burke and TB .. Most of the signings have been Swansea based, Stephens obika all jones men! We then had Spanish Rodney ? Who the hell spotted him? The club he was at released him from his contract to join the Albion? Why ? If he was any good , surely they would ask a fee? The players made noises in jan which kind of supports the " no players available concern of OG ! The loan signing of lingard ( with guarantee of a start each game) was a token signing to stop OG resigning I believe .. What now of jones? Who would want him as number 2..? No mention of jones or Burke in OG farewell statement? I thought they would be best buddies with jones as translator? Sadly again just like Gus , more questions than facts, TB is not stupid, that interview was pure PR mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

11:54pm Wed 14 May 14

OldGull says...

you are so Knowledgeable MBTS
I am surprised you are not running a champiopnship club.
Perhaps you should apply for the vacant managers job.
**** easy, play 442 promotion guaranteed.
you are so Knowledgeable MBTS I am surprised you are not running a champiopnship club. Perhaps you should apply for the vacant managers job. **** easy, play 442 promotion guaranteed. OldGull
  • Score: 3

12:13am Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

mark by the sea wrote:
pte wrote:
Neville wrote:
I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree.
I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season.
He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line.
I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely.
I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy.
He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again.
OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.
Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back.

People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign.

It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack!

OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management.

I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B

I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview.

I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches
But your listening to TB and assuming he is telling the truth? Translation a problem? What was jones doing while these conversations took place?
Players not available ? What all of them? Lol
Reading between the lines, jones was meant to be assistant to OG , however more like a go between Burke and TB ..
Most of the signings have been Swansea based, Stephens obika all jones men!
We then had Spanish Rodney ? Who the hell spotted him? The club he was at released him from his contract to join the Albion? Why ? If he was any good , surely they would ask a fee?
The players made noises in jan which kind of supports the " no players available concern of OG !
The loan signing of lingard ( with guarantee of a start each game) was a token signing to stop OG resigning I believe ..
What now of jones? Who would want him as number 2..?
No mention of jones or Burke in OG farewell statement? I thought they would be best buddies with jones as translator?
Sadly again just like Gus , more questions than facts,
TB is not stupid, that interview was pure PR
Mark so you're saying TB isn't stupid and was well aware OG was unhappy. Well if he knew OG was unhappy then he was stupid not to sort the shambles out and start listening to the right people ie OG. Either way he's stupid, you just have to decide what kind of stupid. If you think TB knew, was there some kind of bust up between the two? I agree with you that TB probably knew towards the end but by then OG had made up his mind it was never going to work. This doesn't look good for the future or the new manager.

No I don't believe TB's statements which are just excuses for his lack of man management. However, I can believe that he is the type of person that listens to the wrong people and doesn't listen to the right people. So all he can do is blame OG for not shouting loud enough or having the language skills to get his point across. He can hardly blame himself for not carefully listening to OG's viewpoint. People don't like to admit when they are wrong

You see supposedly clever people at the top make these kind of mistakes all the time

TB did say that OG was new to the championship and it's players and had limited English skills. To me this is disrespectful and the explanation for putting player recruitment in other hands. In contrast OG has not said anything disrespectful about TB, not even DB though has avoided thanking him

Kuzac wasn't offered a contract and at one stage had a mystery injury. Then when he did play made a few fatal gaffs. Read into that what you will
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree. I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season. He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line. I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely. I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy. He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again. OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.[/p][/quote]Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back. People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign. It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack! OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management. I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview. I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches[/p][/quote]But your listening to TB and assuming he is telling the truth? Translation a problem? What was jones doing while these conversations took place? Players not available ? What all of them? Lol Reading between the lines, jones was meant to be assistant to OG , however more like a go between Burke and TB .. Most of the signings have been Swansea based, Stephens obika all jones men! We then had Spanish Rodney ? Who the hell spotted him? The club he was at released him from his contract to join the Albion? Why ? If he was any good , surely they would ask a fee? The players made noises in jan which kind of supports the " no players available concern of OG ! The loan signing of lingard ( with guarantee of a start each game) was a token signing to stop OG resigning I believe .. What now of jones? Who would want him as number 2..? No mention of jones or Burke in OG farewell statement? I thought they would be best buddies with jones as translator? Sadly again just like Gus , more questions than facts, TB is not stupid, that interview was pure PR[/p][/quote]Mark so you're saying TB isn't stupid and was well aware OG was unhappy. Well if he knew OG was unhappy then he was stupid not to sort the shambles out and start listening to the right people ie OG. Either way he's stupid, you just have to decide what kind of stupid. If you think TB knew, was there some kind of bust up between the two? I agree with you that TB probably knew towards the end but by then OG had made up his mind it was never going to work. This doesn't look good for the future or the new manager. No I don't believe TB's statements which are just excuses for his lack of man management. However, I can believe that he is the type of person that listens to the wrong people and doesn't listen to the right people. So all he can do is blame OG for not shouting loud enough or having the language skills to get his point across. He can hardly blame himself for not carefully listening to OG's viewpoint. People don't like to admit when they are wrong You see supposedly clever people at the top make these kind of mistakes all the time TB did say that OG was new to the championship and it's players and had limited English skills. To me this is disrespectful and the explanation for putting player recruitment in other hands. In contrast OG has not said anything disrespectful about TB, not even DB though has avoided thanking him Kuzac wasn't offered a contract and at one stage had a mystery injury. Then when he did play made a few fatal gaffs. Read into that what you will pte
  • Score: 3

12:20am Thu 15 May 14

Hovite says...

pte wrote:
Neville wrote:
I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree.
I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season.
He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line.
I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely.
I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy.
He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again.
OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.
Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back.

People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign.

It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack!

OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management.

I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B

I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview.

I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches
There is a lot of truth to what you say pte.

Missing out on Grabban and Conway at a key moment in the season was a massive opportunity missed and I was disappointed for Oscar at the time.

It was the difference between being stuffed by Derby in the playoffs or getting to Wembley. Bloom bottled it even though Cardiff have now offered £3m for Grabban. Both he and Conway finished the season at their clubs in top form.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: I have just listened to the TB interview twice and agree he did not really answer the question on why OG left and lots of mmmms not totally convincing I agree. I believe OG realised fairly on in his appointment that the job was far more difficult than he realised and probably made up his mind early on that he would leave at the end of season. He has never looked really comfortable in the role, especially with the media and even allowing for language issues we never saw any humour of passion (apart from Ulloas last minute winner)and this was evident watching him on the touch line. I am surpised TB did not pick up these issues when interviewing him and I think both parties are to blame here,the key to any successful partnership is communication and this must have raised its head at interview stage surely. I believe his Academy experience probably overshadowed everything else and it will be interesting if a separate appointment is made for the running of the Academy. He has returned home to Barcelona fairly speedily so I think he was going regardless of the TB talks planned and told the players before TB that he would not be here next season,shades of Poyet again. OG did well all considered but I can honestly say the football at The Amex was generally poor and at times like watching paint dry,so hopefully everything has been for the best.[/p][/quote]Nev, I have personal experience of these sorts of situations. In any organization there is politics. If you are good at it you win the chairman's ear, if not you lose. OG had the disadvantage of not speaking good English and there may have been things going on behind his back. People react differently to these kind of situations. Gus would blow his stack but I think OG decided early on that he wasn't going to win whatever he said or did so quietly waited till the end of the season to resign. It will be hard for some to understand this mentality. Basically OG knew he wouldn't get his way so shrugged his latin shoulders and quietly hummed "vale senor, if that's what you want" Some may be puzzled he didn't put up more of a fight, but Gus did that and got the sack! OG is a jobbing coach, he doesn't care if the club is shambolic because he knows he will always be in demand. He doesn't need to resign in a negative way because by doing it quietly he is showing his contempt for the idiots running the club. I'm sure TB was totally shocked by the resignation which is why he alluded to lack of communication. But OG tried quietly telling TB only TB wasn't listening, instead he was listening to DB and PB. TB should have picked up there was something wrong, it's poor man management. I wasn't convinced by TB's excuses for not signing any of OG's Spanish player's. He said "we tried but the players weren't available". This is diplomatic speak for they weren't available at the prices we wanted to pay. Regarding signing players in the january window the excuse was he doesn't like doing it in the january window. But he's just gone and sold Barnes, Bridcutt, El Abd in the window and lost Crofts. Talk about OG or Gus not having a plan B, I don't think TB has a plan B I'm surprised that TB is head of a large company and an accomplished poker player. It was very easy to read him in the interview. I'll await the thumbs down from the ostriches[/p][/quote]There is a lot of truth to what you say pte. Missing out on Grabban and Conway at a key moment in the season was a massive opportunity missed and I was disappointed for Oscar at the time. It was the difference between being stuffed by Derby in the playoffs or getting to Wembley. Bloom bottled it even though Cardiff have now offered £3m for Grabban. Both he and Conway finished the season at their clubs in top form. Hovite
  • Score: 5

1:22am Thu 15 May 14

albionbloke says...

Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.
Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M. albionbloke
  • Score: 3

3:13am Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

albionbloke wrote:
Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.
Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit.

But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player.

Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway.

I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.[/p][/quote]Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit. But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player. Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway. I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP pte
  • Score: 3

3:44am Thu 15 May 14

albionbloke says...

pte wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.
Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit.

But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player.

Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway.

I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP
Agree about the loss of Conway PTE, his presence could have made the difference. Even though he said he doesn't like it, I think TB had better learn to play in the January window as that seems to be the time when serious contenders reload.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.[/p][/quote]Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit. But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player. Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway. I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP[/p][/quote]Agree about the loss of Conway PTE, his presence could have made the difference. Even though he said he doesn't like it, I think TB had better learn to play in the January window as that seems to be the time when serious contenders reload. albionbloke
  • Score: 3

10:13am Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

albionbloke wrote:
pte wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.
Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit.

But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player.

Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway.

I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP
Agree about the loss of Conway PTE, his presence could have made the difference. Even though he said he doesn't like it, I think TB had better learn to play in the January window as that seems to be the time when serious contenders reload.
AB, as you know there was no excuse for not buying him in january when he was on a small buy out clause, his price was always going to be higher in the summer.

We were light in midfield where we had 3 from the development squad playing at the same time. Barnes could have covered in midfield.

Fed up with the TB worship, OK a 100m stadium was built but that wasn't all TB's money. He got some from grants and if he sold out tomorrow could make a whopping profit
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Knock Grabban off the list...went to Cardiff today for 3M.[/p][/quote]Yep, BHA missed out on a bargain because of the clubs penny pinching. The player was on a 1m release so BHA could have had him on the cheap even in the january window which TB doesn't like. Even if the wages were high, they could have sold him on for 3m and made a whopping profit. But as soon as the deal fell through, Bournemouth gave him a new contract with a 3m release and gave a huge sigh of relief at BHA ineptitude. But well done TB you saved 1/2 on Barnes and saved on Murrays wages. A brilliant poker player. Oh and didnt Leo's goal rate slow with the loss of Conway. I'm waiting for Vegas et al to tell us about FPP[/p][/quote]Agree about the loss of Conway PTE, his presence could have made the difference. Even though he said he doesn't like it, I think TB had better learn to play in the January window as that seems to be the time when serious contenders reload.[/p][/quote]AB, as you know there was no excuse for not buying him in january when he was on a small buy out clause, his price was always going to be higher in the summer. We were light in midfield where we had 3 from the development squad playing at the same time. Barnes could have covered in midfield. Fed up with the TB worship, OK a 100m stadium was built but that wasn't all TB's money. He got some from grants and if he sold out tomorrow could make a whopping profit pte
  • Score: -1

12:09pm Thu 15 May 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

Tom Carroll (England Under-21 and Spurs, on loan at QPR). I believe his agent is based in Brighton & Hove too
Tom Carroll (England Under-21 and Spurs, on loan at QPR). I believe his agent is based in Brighton & Hove too Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 3

1:53pm Thu 15 May 14

MILLIE26 says...

You could not do better than Shay Given as a 2 year option GK,whilst the young keeper comes up to the necessary standard.He would be free and was brilliant for the Boro last season.Leaves more for the outfield pot?Better than TK in my opinion.Then look at some of the Chelsea youth Bamford etc,they are out there waiting for loan deals.Lingard would be good for another season if possible.
You could not do better than Shay Given as a 2 year option GK,whilst the young keeper comes up to the necessary standard.He would be free and was brilliant for the Boro last season.Leaves more for the outfield pot?Better than TK in my opinion.Then look at some of the Chelsea youth Bamford etc,they are out there waiting for loan deals.Lingard would be good for another season if possible. MILLIE26
  • Score: 3

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