Bookies favourite Sherwood is keen on quick return to management

Tim Sherwood

Tim Sherwood

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Tim Sherwood, the bookies favourite for the vacant job at Albion, says he is already looking forward to his next management job.

Tottenham parted company with Sherwood on Tuesday, the day after Oscar Garcia resigned at Seagulls, just five months after he replaced Andre Villas-Boas as manager at White Hart Lane.

Sherwood, 45, has said he enjoyed the pressure of top-flight management at Spurs, and insists he would not have done things any differently.

He said: "I really enjoyed it and I can't wait to get back in - perversely I like doing it."

Sherwood signed an 18-month deal as manager in December 2013, after two matches in temporary charge following the sacking of Villas-Boas.

He led Tottenham to a sixth-placed finish and qualified for next season's Europa League, but endured continued speculation over his future during his spell in charge.

"Put it this way, I didn't fall off my chair when they told me. Obviously I was disappointed to lose my job," added Sherwood.

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9:39am Thu 15 May 14

Claude Back says...

I watched the game also on TV last night when he said this and must admit that Sherwood made some good points and comments. He came across quiteknowledgeable and seemed to understand the game well. Therefore he assuaged some of my doubts about him. Still preferMM though.
I watched the game also on TV last night when he said this and must admit that Sherwood made some good points and comments. He came across quiteknowledgeable and seemed to understand the game well. Therefore he assuaged some of my doubts about him. Still preferMM though. Claude Back
  • Score: 7

9:40am Thu 15 May 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be.

In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject..

Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking!
Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be. In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject.. Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: -35

9:56am Thu 15 May 14

To baldly go says...

I can't see him coming here tbh, he will want control and stamp his authority on who and what players come in and won't mix his words, MM for the same reason, look at what went on at Cardiff! They don't fit with what those at the top want, a yes man that makes the best of what he's given, take it or leave it!
But then again, when unemployed, any job will do for some!
I can't see him coming here tbh, he will want control and stamp his authority on who and what players come in and won't mix his words, MM for the same reason, look at what went on at Cardiff! They don't fit with what those at the top want, a yes man that makes the best of what he's given, take it or leave it! But then again, when unemployed, any job will do for some! To baldly go
  • Score: 6

10:00am Thu 15 May 14

albionfan33 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be.

In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject..

Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking!
my keyboard had grown wings and was close to take off hehe
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be. In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject.. Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking![/p][/quote]my keyboard had grown wings and was close to take off hehe albionfan33
  • Score: -2

10:02am Thu 15 May 14

farside says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be.

In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject..

Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking!
You havent heard Tony's interview then?
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be. In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject.. Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking![/p][/quote]You havent heard Tony's interview then? farside
  • Score: 0

10:02am Thu 15 May 14

farside says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be.

In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject..

Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking!
You havent heard Tony's interview then?
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be. In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject.. Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking![/p][/quote]You havent heard Tony's interview then? farside
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10:10am Thu 15 May 14

elljam says...

After listening to Tony Bloom's interview it seems that Oscar was as hard work to speak to privately as he was publicly.

Can't see that being an issue with Sherwood. Chalk & cheese springs to mind.
After listening to Tony Bloom's interview it seems that Oscar was as hard work to speak to privately as he was publicly. Can't see that being an issue with Sherwood. Chalk & cheese springs to mind. elljam
  • Score: 16

10:11am Thu 15 May 14

pandaking says...

I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion pandaking
  • Score: 25

10:18am Thu 15 May 14

JeffLomer says...

I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later,

On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!!
Up the Albion!!!!
I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later, On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

10:19am Thu 15 May 14

albionfan33 says...

listening to bloom yesterday it seems that we was prepaired to spend in jan so i can only assume we will have that money as well as the money that was asigned for this season with all the high end player releases we should have a substantial amount to re invest in the team i guess the 1st couple of signings will be a fair indicator of where our ambitions are for this season
listening to bloom yesterday it seems that we was prepaired to spend in jan so i can only assume we will have that money as well as the money that was asigned for this season with all the high end player releases we should have a substantial amount to re invest in the team i guess the 1st couple of signings will be a fair indicator of where our ambitions are for this season albionfan33
  • Score: 4

10:38am Thu 15 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation?
His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up.
All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on.
Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming....
TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation? His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up. All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on. Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 10

10:47am Thu 15 May 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon...

It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.
MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon... It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though. Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 2

10:53am Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon...

It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.
Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-)
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon... It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.[/p][/quote]Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 7

10:58am Thu 15 May 14

brianw52 says...

Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage!
Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage! brianw52
  • Score: -7

11:06am Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

brianw52 wrote:
Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage!
Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.
[quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage![/p][/quote]Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

11:32am Thu 15 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

mark by the sea says...


Alfie T wrote:

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Yeah - all very interesting - but he won't be here next season.
Where's he going then?Leicester 7 million.

You're having a giraffe. He'll go for £4-5 million. He's got no premiership experience. Remember all the fans who said that Bridcutt would go for £6 million ? He went for half that.
mark by the sea says... Alfie T wrote: B rian Tawses left foot wrote: Yeah - all very interesting - but he won't be here next season. Where's he going then?Leicester 7 million. You're having a giraffe. He'll go for £4-5 million. He's got no premiership experience. Remember all the fans who said that Bridcutt would go for £6 million ? He went for half that. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 4

11:34am Thu 15 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

JeffLomer wrote:
I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later,

On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Last time I looked Fulham were in the Championship and according to the Mail, their manager Felix Magath has ordered the players to cancel their holidays and report for training. He, if not the players, obviously mean business. UTA
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later, On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Last time I looked Fulham were in the Championship and according to the Mail, their manager Felix Magath has ordered the players to cancel their holidays and report for training. He, if not the players, obviously mean business. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 9

11:36am Thu 15 May 14

russellsnr2 says...

I no they want to get the man for the job but transfer dealings are already under way and if we are going as TB said bring in players then we need a MANAGER a bit sharpish before we get left with the dregs to choose from or get beaten to the punch on a certain player.
I no they want to get the man for the job but transfer dealings are already under way and if we are going as TB said bring in players then we need a MANAGER a bit sharpish before we get left with the dregs to choose from or get beaten to the punch on a certain player. russellsnr2
  • Score: 0

11:59am Thu 15 May 14

Claude Back says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon...

It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.
Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-)
Yes, which one shall we get our teeth into first?
Although, Hughton is such a nice man it would be difficult.
Btw someone at the Club told me yesterday that Hughton is not out of it all should the first choice not want it.
Just a thought but with the World Cup imminent many PL managers will no doubt be shopping for bargains there and that could impact an who they release/sell and how long it takes.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon... It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.[/p][/quote]Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-)[/p][/quote]Yes, which one shall we get our teeth into first? Although, Hughton is such a nice man it would be difficult. Btw someone at the Club told me yesterday that Hughton is not out of it all should the first choice not want it. Just a thought but with the World Cup imminent many PL managers will no doubt be shopping for bargains there and that could impact an who they release/sell and how long it takes. Claude Back
  • Score: 3

12:08pm Thu 15 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Claude Back wrote:
I watched the game also on TV last night when he said this and must admit that Sherwood made some good points and comments. He came across quiteknowledgeable and seemed to understand the game well. Therefore he assuaged some of my doubts about him. Still preferMM though.
MM would have been my first choice but afraid it looks like he his Norwich bound according to latest press reports.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: I watched the game also on TV last night when he said this and must admit that Sherwood made some good points and comments. He came across quiteknowledgeable and seemed to understand the game well. Therefore he assuaged some of my doubts about him. Still preferMM though.[/p][/quote]MM would have been my first choice but afraid it looks like he his Norwich bound according to latest press reports. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 2

12:11pm Thu 15 May 14

albionfan33 says...

Claude Back wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon...

It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.
Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-)
Yes, which one shall we get our teeth into first?
Although, Hughton is such a nice man it would be difficult.
Btw someone at the Club told me yesterday that Hughton is not out of it all should the first choice not want it.
Just a thought but with the World Cup imminent many PL managers will no doubt be shopping for bargains there and that could impact an who they release/sell and how long it takes.
should we assume that sherwood is no1 choice then? as you have'nt indicated differently.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: MM reportedly in talks with Norwich (it's always blinkin Norwich...) so that one looks unlikely. Sherwood could be interesting if that came to pass. He appears something of a loose cannon at times who's not afraid to challenge players and the board alike. At least he'd show some passion, not look like he was on Mogodon... It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughton was in the frame, though.[/p][/quote]Sherwood and Hughton couldn't be more different, could they? One outspoken and abrasive, the other quiet and almost submissive. Both with enough possibly negative traits for everyone to jump on whenever we lose a match :-)[/p][/quote]Yes, which one shall we get our teeth into first? Although, Hughton is such a nice man it would be difficult. Btw someone at the Club told me yesterday that Hughton is not out of it all should the first choice not want it. Just a thought but with the World Cup imminent many PL managers will no doubt be shopping for bargains there and that could impact an who they release/sell and how long it takes.[/p][/quote]should we assume that sherwood is no1 choice then? as you have'nt indicated differently. albionfan33
  • Score: 0

12:22pm Thu 15 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
brianw52 wrote:
Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage!
Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.
Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached.
DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left!
Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually .
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage![/p][/quote]Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.[/p][/quote]Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached. DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left! Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually . mark by the sea
  • Score: -4

12:22pm Thu 15 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
brianw52 wrote:
Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage!
Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.
Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached.
DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left!
Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually .
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage![/p][/quote]Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.[/p][/quote]Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached. DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left! Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually . mark by the sea
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12:24pm Thu 15 May 14

bbb1969 says...

pandaking wrote:
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again.
[quote][p][bold]pandaking[/bold] wrote: I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion[/p][/quote]but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again. bbb1969
  • Score: 1

12:58pm Thu 15 May 14

brightonup says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
brianw52 wrote:
Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage!
Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.
Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached.
DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left!
Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually .
'no wonder Gus left! Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually'

Still downbeat and depressing I see.
Why inflict on the rest of us? Oh yes, I remember, you are just 'telling it like it is..'
What if we don't want to hear it?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brianw52[/bold] wrote: Is David Burke the problem here? I can remember the days when a manager was allowed to manage![/p][/quote]Clubs - even those with 'proper managers' - have always farmed out certain responsibilities. There just aren't enough hours in the day to have one man concentrate on all of the managerial work. Having a DoF just formalises things to an extent.[/p][/quote]Yes OG should have had assistance in signing his players, not jones recommending players from Swansea and anyone he had ever coached. DOF should be making life easy for the manager , no wonder Gus left! Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually .[/p][/quote]'no wonder Gus left! Credit to him! I suppose we will find a yes man eventually' Still downbeat and depressing I see. Why inflict on the rest of us? Oh yes, I remember, you are just 'telling it like it is..' What if we don't want to hear it? brightonup
  • Score: 4

1:03pm Thu 15 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later,

On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Last time I looked Fulham were in the Championship and according to the Mail, their manager Felix Magath has ordered the players to cancel their holidays and report for training. He, if not the players, obviously mean business. UTA
My mistake grandad my appologies about Fulham !!
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later, On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Last time I looked Fulham were in the Championship and according to the Mail, their manager Felix Magath has ordered the players to cancel their holidays and report for training. He, if not the players, obviously mean business. UTA[/p][/quote]My mistake grandad my appologies about Fulham !! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 1

1:22pm Thu 15 May 14

wiseman of hove says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation?
His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up.
All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on.
Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming....
Yes,TB sounded decidedly lukewarm about Garcia, dare I say relieved he was gone? - Andy Naylor was certainly an enthusiast.
My forecast remains that Sherwood is on his way and I expect additional season ticket sales when it's announced
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation? His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up. All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on. Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming....[/p][/quote]Yes,TB sounded decidedly lukewarm about Garcia, dare I say relieved he was gone? - Andy Naylor was certainly an enthusiast. My forecast remains that Sherwood is on his way and I expect additional season ticket sales when it's announced wiseman of hove
  • Score: 6

1:35pm Thu 15 May 14

ballantrrae says...

pandaking wrote:
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
PandaKing you make your points well and in a reasoned way.
I too listened to Bloom's interview and he didn't deny that Oscar felt that DB and the recruitment team let him down. He indicated that there was a certain naivety with Oscar eg assuming that because a fee had been agreed with Bournemouth that Grabban's deal was done and dusted. He also referred to 'communications difficulties' that he andDTB had with Oscar - not that he was blaming Oscar.
The reality seems to be that Oscar 'perceived' there were problems with the recruitment side rightly or wrongly as indeed Poyet appears to have done 12 months ago. That problem 'perceived' or real needs to be addressed. I am sure everybody is agreed, TB and DB included, that the person actually Managing the team must drive both strategically and practically the transfer and recruiting of policy.
Whoever is appointed will quite properly need reassurance regarding that key point.
Should any similar issues arise in future with our new Manager then I would say that at that point serious questions would need to be asked of DB and his department.
I should add that I was disappointed with the quality of many of our signings this season. Ward and Conway were first rate and Lingard had some good games but the rest were generally disappointing especially Agustein and Monakana. I also felt that we suffered from not being able to replace Barnes and El-Abd although I appreciate it is a difficult time to deal and TB has a reluctance to do so in that window. However other clubs did successfully do so eg Derby getting Bamford on loan from Chelsea so why not BHA ?
Anyway what has happened is behind us and as long as lessons have been learned nothing is lost.
The most important thing going forward is for DB and the recruitment side to get right behind the new Manager when he joins and (within our budget) fulfil his requirements. Hopefully between the new Manager and DB we will get the players we want signed sooner rather than later and as a result have a meaningful pre-season.
With the club having to bring in 8 to 9 new players the new Manager really has a great opportunity to restructure the squad as he wants so that, potentially, he is able to move the club to the next level. .
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]pandaking[/bold] wrote: I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion[/p][/quote]PandaKing you make your points well and in a reasoned way. I too listened to Bloom's interview and he didn't deny that Oscar felt that DB and the recruitment team let him down. He indicated that there was a certain naivety with Oscar eg assuming that because a fee had been agreed with Bournemouth that Grabban's deal was done and dusted. He also referred to 'communications difficulties' that he andDTB had with Oscar - not that he was blaming Oscar. The reality seems to be that Oscar 'perceived' there were problems with the recruitment side rightly or wrongly as indeed Poyet appears to have done 12 months ago. That problem 'perceived' or real needs to be addressed. I am sure everybody is agreed, TB and DB included, that the person actually Managing the team must drive both strategically and practically the transfer and recruiting of policy. Whoever is appointed will quite properly need reassurance regarding that key point. Should any similar issues arise in future with our new Manager then I would say that at that point serious questions would need to be asked of DB and his department. I should add that I was disappointed with the quality of many of our signings this season. Ward and Conway were first rate and Lingard had some good games but the rest were generally disappointing especially Agustein and Monakana. I also felt that we suffered from not being able to replace Barnes and El-Abd although I appreciate it is a difficult time to deal and TB has a reluctance to do so in that window. However other clubs did successfully do so eg Derby getting Bamford on loan from Chelsea so why not BHA ? Anyway what has happened is behind us and as long as lessons have been learned nothing is lost. The most important thing going forward is for DB and the recruitment side to get right behind the new Manager when he joins and (within our budget) fulfil his requirements. Hopefully between the new Manager and DB we will get the players we want signed sooner rather than later and as a result have a meaningful pre-season. With the club having to bring in 8 to 9 new players the new Manager really has a great opportunity to restructure the squad as he wants so that, potentially, he is able to move the club to the next level. . UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

bbb1969 wrote:
pandaking wrote:
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/27


412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again.
Yes but whatever the club may say to the contrary, the manager has no say in recruitments. So to their mind it's OK to appoint a manager just before the start of the season. Look at the money they save on wages.

Saying they will take their time appointing a new manager tells me they are having trouble finding a high profile manager that helps season ticket sales who is (a) cheap enough and (b) willing to accept the current set up. Otherwise as you say it would make sense to sign one ASAP. Don't forget they have known for 8 weeks at least that OG had enough
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pandaking[/bold] wrote: I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion[/p][/quote]but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again.[/p][/quote]Yes but whatever the club may say to the contrary, the manager has no say in recruitments. So to their mind it's OK to appoint a manager just before the start of the season. Look at the money they save on wages. Saying they will take their time appointing a new manager tells me they are having trouble finding a high profile manager that helps season ticket sales who is (a) cheap enough and (b) willing to accept the current set up. Otherwise as you say it would make sense to sign one ASAP. Don't forget they have known for 8 weeks at least that OG had enough pte
  • Score: -2

1:52pm Thu 15 May 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote: TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation? His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up. All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on. Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming....
Yes,TB sounded decidedly lukewarm about Garcia, dare I say relieved he was gone? - Andy Naylor was certainly an enthusiast. My forecast remains that Sherwood is on his way and I expect additional season ticket sales when it's announced
Well, yes - Sherwood's mum and dad would buy season tickets, for sure....
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: TB's interview with the BBC is revealing on many counts and his explanation of Oscar's general demeanour and communication skills is revealing. TB doesn't sound too enamoured with OG's approach and not particularly disappointed with his resignation? His re-assertion of the club's process for player dealings makes it clear to me that as Head Coach, OG WAS expected to play a leading role but wasn't particularly forthcoming. The interview also suggests that the new person will again be expected to lead the way in player recruitment, leaving the financial stuff to others, which is how it should be within such a set up. All in all, it's a measured reflection of the season and of the current situation. It puts certain things into perspective which beforehand, we could only wildly speculate on. Nice PR work by the club. Bet the Argus are fuming....[/p][/quote]Yes,TB sounded decidedly lukewarm about Garcia, dare I say relieved he was gone? - Andy Naylor was certainly an enthusiast. My forecast remains that Sherwood is on his way and I expect additional season ticket sales when it's announced[/p][/quote]Well, yes - Sherwood's mum and dad would buy season tickets, for sure.... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 5

1:54pm Thu 15 May 14

ballantrrae says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
mark by the sea says...


Alfie T wrote:

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Yeah - all very interesting - but he won't be here next season.
Where's he going then?Leicester 7 million.

You're having a giraffe. He'll go for £4-5 million. He's got no premiership experience. Remember all the fans who said that Bridcutt would go for £6 million ? He went for half that.
Last week the Daily Telegraph quoted that the Bridcutt fee was £4,500,000.
In January the same paper quoted £2.5 million. Interesting that the DT increased the figure by £2 million. The figure I heard originally in January was £3.5 million rising to £4.5 million with add ons which seems to fall in line with the DT figure.
For what it is worth Tony Bloom in his BBC Radio interview yesterday said (in relation to Bridcutt's fee) and I quote that it "far and away exceeded the club transfer record" which comment makes me feel that the fee Sunderland agreed was quite a lot higher than originally thought and around the £4 million mark.
It might well be one of the reasons that the Sunderland hierarchy are questioning the merit of Poyet's January signings.
Incidentally it was a great piece of business if we did get £4.5 million for Bridcutt.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: mark by the sea says... Alfie T wrote: B rian Tawses left foot wrote: Yeah - all very interesting - but he won't be here next season. Where's he going then?Leicester 7 million. You're having a giraffe. He'll go for £4-5 million. He's got no premiership experience. Remember all the fans who said that Bridcutt would go for £6 million ? He went for half that.[/p][/quote]Last week the Daily Telegraph quoted that the Bridcutt fee was £4,500,000. In January the same paper quoted £2.5 million. Interesting that the DT increased the figure by £2 million. The figure I heard originally in January was £3.5 million rising to £4.5 million with add ons which seems to fall in line with the DT figure. For what it is worth Tony Bloom in his BBC Radio interview yesterday said (in relation to Bridcutt's fee) and I quote that it "far and away exceeded the club transfer record" which comment makes me feel that the fee Sunderland agreed was quite a lot higher than originally thought and around the £4 million mark. It might well be one of the reasons that the Sunderland hierarchy are questioning the merit of Poyet's January signings. Incidentally it was a great piece of business if we did get £4.5 million for Bridcutt. ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

1:58pm Thu 15 May 14

gilbertthecat says...

pte wrote:
bbb1969 wrote:
pandaking wrote:
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk



/sport/0/football/27



412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again.
Yes but whatever the club may say to the contrary, the manager has no say in recruitments. So to their mind it's OK to appoint a manager just before the start of the season. Look at the money they save on wages.

Saying they will take their time appointing a new manager tells me they are having trouble finding a high profile manager that helps season ticket sales who is (a) cheap enough and (b) willing to accept the current set up. Otherwise as you say it would make sense to sign one ASAP. Don't forget they have known for 8 weeks at least that OG had enough
I thought TB was pretty clear on what say OG had on recruitment and believe that translates into future dealings as well. Don't really understand your cynicism about 'whatever the club may say to the contrary'. If you mean that the club will buy before they have a new manager contracted then I get your point - for now. Your other points - well point B for me if they are having trouble. Having said that someone like Sherwood might need a couple of days to talk to family etc before saying yes. A 'no' would be a quicker decision to make I reckon. Other than that, yes sign a suitable manager as soon as poss so he can be involved in player recruitment, even if that means DB has to be involved at least the managers voice will be heard.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pandaking[/bold] wrote: I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion[/p][/quote]but as with last year the new manager is not gettin any choice on who we release and based on timing, who we will sign. most good signings gone before our new manager is sorted....again.[/p][/quote]Yes but whatever the club may say to the contrary, the manager has no say in recruitments. So to their mind it's OK to appoint a manager just before the start of the season. Look at the money they save on wages. Saying they will take their time appointing a new manager tells me they are having trouble finding a high profile manager that helps season ticket sales who is (a) cheap enough and (b) willing to accept the current set up. Otherwise as you say it would make sense to sign one ASAP. Don't forget they have known for 8 weeks at least that OG had enough[/p][/quote]I thought TB was pretty clear on what say OG had on recruitment and believe that translates into future dealings as well. Don't really understand your cynicism about 'whatever the club may say to the contrary'. If you mean that the club will buy before they have a new manager contracted then I get your point - for now. Your other points - well point B for me if they are having trouble. Having said that someone like Sherwood might need a couple of days to talk to family etc before saying yes. A 'no' would be a quicker decision to make I reckon. Other than that, yes sign a suitable manager as soon as poss so he can be involved in player recruitment, even if that means DB has to be involved at least the managers voice will be heard. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Thu 15 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 8

3:28pm Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job pte
  • Score: -3

4:27pm Thu 15 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 8

4:35pm Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets pte
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Thu 15 May 14

dave from bexill says...

One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August.
For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay.
One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August. For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay. dave from bexill
  • Score: 9

5:01pm Thu 15 May 14

Jules boy says...

JeffLomer wrote:
I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later,

On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Fulham's a Championship job!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: I think we all would agree or most off us would love to see Sherwood be our manager, full off passion no nonsense sort off guy, but I fear he has his sights in a premiership job ie Fulham, lets hope we have a chance in getting him in hopefully sooner rather than later, On another note anyone see under 21 final last night Chelsea v its man utd lad in midfield for Chelsea Baker what a player we should seriously look at him great on the ball brilliant touch can pass and cross and he can score goals like last night what a goal, they are saying he could be the new Lampard but he will never get in that team they never do, we done ok with once from there, players like him would not cost a fortune, goalkeeper as well looks a great prospect!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Fulham's a Championship job! Jules boy
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Thu 15 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

dave from bexill wrote:
One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August.
For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay.
Malky Mackay is on his way to Norwich.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August. For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay.[/p][/quote]Malky Mackay is on his way to Norwich. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 1

5:03pm Thu 15 May 14

King Freeloader says...

pte wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets
100% correct pete great words.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets[/p][/quote]100% correct pete great words. King Freeloader
  • Score: -10

5:04pm Thu 15 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pte wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets
And, for what it's worth I agree that people are perfectly entitled to form an opinion based on what they hear, but there isn't one of us on the outside who can say unequivocally that he wasn't telling the truth. That's the bit that goes too far for me.
In this instance, I think he was attempting to get a message out at (again) a sensitive time.
And on that basis, I think he's doing a pretty decent job.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets[/p][/quote]And, for what it's worth I agree that people are perfectly entitled to form an opinion based on what they hear, but there isn't one of us on the outside who can say unequivocally that he wasn't telling the truth. That's the bit that goes too far for me. In this instance, I think he was attempting to get a message out at (again) a sensitive time. And on that basis, I think he's doing a pretty decent job. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

5:07pm Thu 15 May 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!!
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: -5

5:13pm Thu 15 May 14

King Freeloader says...

pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
The one that is prepared to work for the least money and have the team picked for him.Like TK & Bridcutt said down the marina mths ago Dunk & JFC are playing next season what ever happens its a done deal.What real manager would ever put up with that????
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]The one that is prepared to work for the least money and have the team picked for him.Like TK & Bridcutt said down the marina mths ago Dunk & JFC are playing next season what ever happens its a done deal.What real manager would ever put up with that???? King Freeloader
  • Score: -12

5:25pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

pte wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets
You can't decide on the truth, the truth just is! :-) What people believe and what actually happened are often poles apart.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I agree with you AS. It's pointless the club telling porkies or spinning things because not everyone is stupid. At the end people will decide the truth and whether to continue to buy season tickets[/p][/quote]You can't decide on the truth, the truth just is! :-) What people believe and what actually happened are often poles apart. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

5:32pm Thu 15 May 14

pte says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!!
No, negotiations are with the agents either over the phone or at Pizza Hut and the agents bid over the phone. For example Sherwood's agent says his client is willing to work for 10k pw. Then PB phones Hughton's agent and asks if he could work for 9k or PB will look elsewhere. Once he finds someone willing to work for 9k he goes back to Sherwoods agent and asks if he's willing to work for 8k. Eventually the wage is whittled down until the manager pays TB to work for BHA because its such a great club going places
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!![/p][/quote]No, negotiations are with the agents either over the phone or at Pizza Hut and the agents bid over the phone. For example Sherwood's agent says his client is willing to work for 10k pw. Then PB phones Hughton's agent and asks if he could work for 9k or PB will look elsewhere. Once he finds someone willing to work for 9k he goes back to Sherwoods agent and asks if he's willing to work for 8k. Eventually the wage is whittled down until the manager pays TB to work for BHA because its such a great club going places pte
  • Score: -4

5:34pm Thu 15 May 14

impose our game gull says...

Bring him on..

We're a great opportunity for you Tim and the group of players will respond to you.
Bring him on.. We're a great opportunity for you Tim and the group of players will respond to you. impose our game gull
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Thu 15 May 14

ballantrrae says...

dave from bexill wrote:
One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August.
For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay.
Good post.
Incidentally I noticed that Paul Clement being quoted as 6/1 joint second favourite somewhere which might be a interesting appointment since I believe in a recent interview that he said he would be open to a return to the UK. He was also included in Captain Haddock's list of potential managers on one of the threads yesterday.
Pleased to hear in the Bloom interview that he is looking at a wide spectrum of potential candidates
Whilst Bloom said there was 'no time scale' for making the appointment I would hope that the new Manager is announced by the end of this Month.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: One of the problems Tony Bloom may have in trying to secure a new manager, particularly one of so called favourites, is likely to be that those guys are also having a good look around with their agents/ advisors to see what's available now and what maybe in the offing in the near future or over the summer. For example Gold and his cohorts at West Ham might be looking at who's available before making a decision about Sam Allardyce. It's a merry-go-round similar to the movement of players at this time of year. Once something actually happens there's a knock on effect and as I understand it, most summer deals for players don't actually happen until August. For what (little) it's worth,my choice of manager would be Tim Sherwood, he seems a good fit for Albion at this time (but I thought the same about Oscar last year) Not afraid to use youngsters and completely resurrected Adebayors career. He's intelligent and captained all the clubs he played for. (I know that doesn't make him a good manager necessarily) but he ho lets go for it. Ps he might bring big Les with him as well and my wife thinks he's gorgeous. Only problem might be is that by his own account Sherwood is very ambitious and may prefer to wait and see if he can attract a Premier club, likewise Malky Mackay.[/p][/quote]Good post. Incidentally I noticed that Paul Clement being quoted as 6/1 joint second favourite somewhere which might be a interesting appointment since I believe in a recent interview that he said he would be open to a return to the UK. He was also included in Captain Haddock's list of potential managers on one of the threads yesterday. Pleased to hear in the Bloom interview that he is looking at a wide spectrum of potential candidates Whilst Bloom said there was 'no time scale' for making the appointment I would hope that the new Manager is announced by the end of this Month. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

6:10pm Thu 15 May 14

raymondo999 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year. raymondo999
  • Score: 0

6:16pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

raymondo999 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year.
Why do that if four of the candidates are better than Sherwood. Why not try to appoint on of those first?
[quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year.[/p][/quote]Why do that if four of the candidates are better than Sherwood. Why not try to appoint on of those first? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

6:26pm Thu 15 May 14

Max Ripple says...

Better get Tim quick or we will lose him. He's not going to hang around waiting for the great Brighton and Hove Albion to come begging. I'd love him here. He's not a YesMan. He's got character. But maybe that's not what DB and PB want. I'd put money on a softer candidate like Hughton. Someone who will agree to anything. Someone who won't complain when the money isn't there or when DB c---ks up negotiations.
Better get Tim quick or we will lose him. He's not going to hang around waiting for the great Brighton and Hove Albion to come begging. I'd love him here. He's not a YesMan. He's got character. But maybe that's not what DB and PB want. I'd put money on a softer candidate like Hughton. Someone who will agree to anything. Someone who won't complain when the money isn't there or when DB c---ks up negotiations. Max Ripple
  • Score: -3

6:47pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

My main worry about Sherwood is his apparent inability to cope with pressure. If he comes here believing that trying to get a club promoted on a (relative) shoestring is going to be less stressful than getting a £100m team into Europe then I think he's in for a rude awakening.

Also, I think those who want him in the belief that an English manager will play 4-4-2 will be sorely disappointed as he played one striker in more games than he played two.

His appointment would be a time-bomb, but an entertaining and possibly successful one nonetheless.
My main worry about Sherwood is his apparent inability to cope with pressure. If he comes here believing that trying to get a club promoted on a (relative) shoestring is going to be less stressful than getting a £100m team into Europe then I think he's in for a rude awakening. Also, I think those who want him in the belief that an English manager will play 4-4-2 will be sorely disappointed as he played one striker in more games than he played two. His appointment would be a time-bomb, but an entertaining and possibly successful one nonetheless. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

6:50pm Thu 15 May 14

mark by the sea says...

I think the club need to move if sherwood is available, Mm is norwich bound, which leaves big Sam walking the tightrope for next few weeks, if the decision is for Sam to go , then David Gold will look for a young manager capable of a passing game. For me sherwood is that man, lose him and Malky and we are now looking further down the top ten, we need to step up and sort it, rather than show how methodical we are, I thought sherwood was first choice last summer,
I think the club need to move if sherwood is available, Mm is norwich bound, which leaves big Sam walking the tightrope for next few weeks, if the decision is for Sam to go , then David Gold will look for a young manager capable of a passing game. For me sherwood is that man, lose him and Malky and we are now looking further down the top ten, we need to step up and sort it, rather than show how methodical we are, I thought sherwood was first choice last summer, mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Thu 15 May 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week.

More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least.

Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments.
I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week. More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least. Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 3

7:29pm Thu 15 May 14

raymondo999 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
raymondo999 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year.
Why do that if four of the candidates are better than Sherwood. Why not try to appoint on of those first?
Are you serious?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raymondo999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]Of course there might be 52 applicants and only 38 can be ruled out quickly, so we have a short list of 14 who are all appointable. Then we have to measure 13 against Sherwood and will probably find 4 are better than him and 9 worse. But I agree why go through with this charade if Bloom wants Sherwood appoint him just like he did with Oscar last year.[/p][/quote]Why do that if four of the candidates are better than Sherwood. Why not try to appoint on of those first?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? raymondo999
  • Score: 0

7:40pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

WiseOldSeagull wrote:
I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week.

More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least.

Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments.
Neil Warnock could definitely do a job for us, but I'm not sure (a) if it should be as a manager, and (b) if he would do a decent job.

Chris Hughton might be good though, if a bit meek and mild for those fans on here who like their managers more demonstrative.

I hope that my first thought on the new manager when he is appointed isn't either 'meh' or 'drat'.
[quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week. More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least. Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments.[/p][/quote]Neil Warnock could definitely do a job for us, but I'm not sure (a) if it should be as a manager, and (b) if he would do a decent job. Chris Hughton might be good though, if a bit meek and mild for those fans on here who like their managers more demonstrative. I hope that my first thought on the new manager when he is appointed isn't either 'meh' or 'drat'. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

7:40pm Thu 15 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

pte wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!!
No, negotiations are with the agents either over the phone or at Pizza Hut and the agents bid over the phone. For example Sherwood's agent says his client is willing to work for 10k pw. Then PB phones Hughton's agent and asks if he could work for 9k or PB will look elsewhere. Once he finds someone willing to work for 9k he goes back to Sherwoods agent and asks if he's willing to work for 8k. Eventually the wage is whittled down until the manager pays TB to work for BHA because its such a great club going places
You're not listening are you?
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]You mean 10 candidates sitting in chairs in front of TB's desk while he interviews them separately? I don't think so!![/p][/quote]No, negotiations are with the agents either over the phone or at Pizza Hut and the agents bid over the phone. For example Sherwood's agent says his client is willing to work for 10k pw. Then PB phones Hughton's agent and asks if he could work for 9k or PB will look elsewhere. Once he finds someone willing to work for 9k he goes back to Sherwoods agent and asks if he's willing to work for 8k. Eventually the wage is whittled down until the manager pays TB to work for BHA because its such a great club going places[/p][/quote]You're not listening are you? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Thu 15 May 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
WiseOldSeagull wrote:
I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week.

More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least.

Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments.
Neil Warnock could definitely do a job for us, but I'm not sure (a) if it should be as a manager, and (b) if he would do a decent job.

Chris Hughton might be good though, if a bit meek and mild for those fans on here who like their managers more demonstrative.

I hope that my first thought on the new manager when he is appointed isn't either 'meh' or 'drat'.
Yeah I hear what you are saying. Hughton may well be a 'meh' 'drat' appointment. But I'm just not sure I would feel any better about a left field appointment such as Clement. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a Warnock character. Someone with plenty of experience of what it takes to get promotion to the EPL and who still has passion and fight. He doesn't mix his words and would be able to get the best out of players at his disposal. If I had my way as a complete armchair football fan I'd quite like Warnock running the first team and Hoddel running the academy.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WiseOldSeagull[/bold] wrote: I'm really not sure that TS would fancy us after talks with TB. He has a ball park figure with regard to transfer budget but won't have anything concrete until the football league meeting on FFP next week. More likely candidates would be Chris Hughton or Neil Warnock. Either of which could do a job for us. Glenn Hoddel has also shown interest in the past and could be a candidate this time round also. He has good knowledge of the youngsters around and is into development of youth. Someone like him might be good to run the academy at least. Tony will make a good appointment regardless. I trust him and he has done well with his two previous appointments.[/p][/quote]Neil Warnock could definitely do a job for us, but I'm not sure (a) if it should be as a manager, and (b) if he would do a decent job. Chris Hughton might be good though, if a bit meek and mild for those fans on here who like their managers more demonstrative. I hope that my first thought on the new manager when he is appointed isn't either 'meh' or 'drat'.[/p][/quote]Yeah I hear what you are saying. Hughton may well be a 'meh' 'drat' appointment. But I'm just not sure I would feel any better about a left field appointment such as Clement. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of a Warnock character. Someone with plenty of experience of what it takes to get promotion to the EPL and who still has passion and fight. He doesn't mix his words and would be able to get the best out of players at his disposal. If I had my way as a complete armchair football fan I'd quite like Warnock running the first team and Hoddel running the academy. WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: -2

8:19pm Thu 15 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

West brom are after Sherwood so it's time to get a move on if he's to be our manager, it feels as though we are drifting towards Chris Hughton tbh, did well with Newcastle and Norwich.
West brom are after Sherwood so it's time to get a move on if he's to be our manager, it feels as though we are drifting towards Chris Hughton tbh, did well with Newcastle and Norwich. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -2

8:30pm Thu 15 May 14

chipsandgravy says...

I don't actually care who is appointed as long as he brings expansive, attractive winning football to the Amex. Primarily I want to be entertained when I come and don't want any more of the cagey cautious stuff where we seem more frightened of losing than showing some adventure and winning in style
I don't actually care who is appointed as long as he brings expansive, attractive winning football to the Amex. Primarily I want to be entertained when I come and don't want any more of the cagey cautious stuff where we seem more frightened of losing than showing some adventure and winning in style chipsandgravy
  • Score: 5

8:49pm Thu 15 May 14

Far gull says...

Wise old Seagull ,liking your work Glenn Hoddle a great shout and not someone i had thought of but he would be a good fit with us.
Wise old Seagull ,liking your work Glenn Hoddle a great shout and not someone i had thought of but he would be a good fit with us. Far gull
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Thu 15 May 14

gordongull says...

I commented recently that I can think of a number of Managers who would be excellent for B&HA, but would not waste time listing them, as the chances of obtaining their services are remote. The more popular choices are now being linked with vacancies elsewhere, and I believe the field will soon be narrowed down to candidates who I would not trust with a promotion challenge.
The type of character we need to get us promoted is not the type who will accept the interference that he would inevitably get from our Head of Football Operations. Certainly, there aren't enough hours in the day for one person to deal with all the responsibilities of a Manager, which is why he would need to delegate to others.
That's what Managers do!
Candidates for the B&HA job face the prospect of having wisdom handed down to them from an individual who has never managed at any level. Steve McClaren at Derby has an arrangement with the Club's owner whereby he is allowed to Manage without a DOF, and he is the callibre of Manager we need to be attracting. They will not come here while David Burke is still in place at the Club.
I commented recently that I can think of a number of Managers who would be excellent for B&HA, but would not waste time listing them, as the chances of obtaining their services are remote. The more popular choices are now being linked with vacancies elsewhere, and I believe the field will soon be narrowed down to candidates who I would not trust with a promotion challenge. The type of character we need to get us promoted is not the type who will accept the interference that he would inevitably get from our Head of Football Operations. Certainly, there aren't enough hours in the day for one person to deal with all the responsibilities of a Manager, which is why he would need to delegate to others. That's what Managers do! Candidates for the B&HA job face the prospect of having wisdom handed down to them from an individual who has never managed at any level. Steve McClaren at Derby has an arrangement with the Club's owner whereby he is allowed to Manage without a DOF, and he is the callibre of Manager we need to be attracting. They will not come here while David Burke is still in place at the Club. gordongull
  • Score: -2

9:37pm Thu 15 May 14

albionbloke says...

gordongull wrote:
I commented recently that I can think of a number of Managers who would be excellent for B&HA, but would not waste time listing them, as the chances of obtaining their services are remote. The more popular choices are now being linked with vacancies elsewhere, and I believe the field will soon be narrowed down to candidates who I would not trust with a promotion challenge.
The type of character we need to get us promoted is not the type who will accept the interference that he would inevitably get from our Head of Football Operations. Certainly, there aren't enough hours in the day for one person to deal with all the responsibilities of a Manager, which is why he would need to delegate to others.
That's what Managers do!
Candidates for the B&HA job face the prospect of having wisdom handed down to them from an individual who has never managed at any level. Steve McClaren at Derby has an arrangement with the Club's owner whereby he is allowed to Manage without a DOF, and he is the callibre of Manager we need to be attracting. They will not come here while David Burke is still in place at the Club.
Well said GG
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: I commented recently that I can think of a number of Managers who would be excellent for B&HA, but would not waste time listing them, as the chances of obtaining their services are remote. The more popular choices are now being linked with vacancies elsewhere, and I believe the field will soon be narrowed down to candidates who I would not trust with a promotion challenge. The type of character we need to get us promoted is not the type who will accept the interference that he would inevitably get from our Head of Football Operations. Certainly, there aren't enough hours in the day for one person to deal with all the responsibilities of a Manager, which is why he would need to delegate to others. That's what Managers do! Candidates for the B&HA job face the prospect of having wisdom handed down to them from an individual who has never managed at any level. Steve McClaren at Derby has an arrangement with the Club's owner whereby he is allowed to Manage without a DOF, and he is the callibre of Manager we need to be attracting. They will not come here while David Burke is still in place at the Club.[/p][/quote]Well said GG albionbloke
  • Score: -2

9:48pm Thu 15 May 14

albionbloke says...

IF (and it's a big IF), Di Matteo was on TBs short list, we can strike him off as it looks like he's going to Frankfurt.
IF (and it's a big IF), Di Matteo was on TBs short list, we can strike him off as it looks like he's going to Frankfurt. albionbloke
  • Score: 1

10:13pm Thu 15 May 14

WiseOldSeagull says...

I wish people would stop spouting rubbish about the recruitment setup. TB has made it very clear that it is a team of people working to find the best players available within our budget.

Oscar had targets but they were unavailable for a variety of reasons. Accept it and move on.

The club is being run exceptionelly well off the field with vast investment. It will take time to see the fruits of that investment. What we need to do is entrust that investment to some coaches that are proven developers of talent. We are not a Man City scoffing at fair play and buying chamionships, we are a club of history doing things in the right way. We will get our manager and a few additions to keep us competitive but our future is in youth development.

We need to have a structure in place that will eventually take us to the promised land. We haven't found it yet. Infrastructure is in place but we need that managerial and coaching personnel to leverage it and buy into the concept. We thought it was Oscar. It wasn't. Who wants it?
I wish people would stop spouting rubbish about the recruitment setup. TB has made it very clear that it is a team of people working to find the best players available within our budget. Oscar had targets but they were unavailable for a variety of reasons. Accept it and move on. The club is being run exceptionelly well off the field with vast investment. It will take time to see the fruits of that investment. What we need to do is entrust that investment to some coaches that are proven developers of talent. We are not a Man City scoffing at fair play and buying chamionships, we are a club of history doing things in the right way. We will get our manager and a few additions to keep us competitive but our future is in youth development. We need to have a structure in place that will eventually take us to the promised land. We haven't found it yet. Infrastructure is in place but we need that managerial and coaching personnel to leverage it and buy into the concept. We thought it was Oscar. It wasn't. Who wants it? WiseOldSeagull
  • Score: 8

12:38am Fri 16 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another?
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another? VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

2:40am Fri 16 May 14

ringtone says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be.

In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject..

Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking!
Great post.

You know you in the right when you get so many thumbs down,

Keep up th e good work.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Well Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait - or look elsewhere. It appears that no-one will be appointed until such time as Burke & C° have rebuilt the squad in their fashion... You'll have to do as your told and work with it. Or not as the case may be. In the meantime the old boys act may come into play and we'll find ourselves with another Charlton reject.. Oh dear, I remember when summer used to be such a happy time of the year. Alright, don't get your keyboards in a flap, I'm only joking![/p][/quote]Great post. You know you in the right when you get so many thumbs down, Keep up th e good work. ringtone
  • Score: -2

3:07am Fri 16 May 14

ringtone says...

pandaking wrote:
I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped.

If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

412432

In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure.

I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision.

Up The Albion
Rubbish.

The director of football role is a patsy position invented so the chairman can get the players he wants into the club.

What you fail to understand, and probably never will, is the ego of the modern owner is so huge they cannot tolerate the manager/coach being seen as the main man at the club.

By diluting the power of the manager/coach inevitably leads to the chaos we have experienced in the last two years

I for one (make that three, Arnie+ Vegas) will not be renewing my season ticket whilst this farcial situation remains.

UTA
[quote][p][bold]pandaking[/bold] wrote: I wish you uninformed angry rant posters would stop the nevereending David Burke abuse. A few months back Paul Barber was getting the same treatment, but thankfully after sstatements from Paul, Tony Bloom and more recently praise from Oscar that has stopped. If you haven't heard it yet, please listen to Tony Bloom's recent interview on the reasons Oscar left: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 412432 In it David Burke's name is discussed along with player recruitment. Oscar chose his targets then Burke tried to sign them within our budget. This is exactly how it should be. If you want to support a club that overspends go support someone else, but I would remind you to look at the plight of Portsmouth etc. I personally would rather be part of a club which is solid and secure. I have no doubt that the new manager will get first choice on who we sign. Tony Bloom has said how delighted he is with Burke / the recruitment structure. In Bloom we trust as is always said. Well, you say it for in regards to his manager selection then second guess his every other decision. Up The Albion[/p][/quote]Rubbish. The director of football role is a patsy position invented so the chairman can get the players he wants into the club. What you fail to understand, and probably never will, is the ego of the modern owner is so huge they cannot tolerate the manager/coach being seen as the main man at the club. By diluting the power of the manager/coach inevitably leads to the chaos we have experienced in the last two years I for one (make that three, Arnie+ Vegas) will not be renewing my season ticket whilst this farcial situation remains. UTA ringtone
  • Score: -3

5:17am Fri 16 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another?
i was replying to Pte
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another?[/p][/quote]i was replying to Pte Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

12:19pm Fri 16 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
Don't agree at all.
TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that.
Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory!
As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next.
Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.
I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another?
i was replying to Pte
Oh, my error and thanks for replying.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]Don't agree at all. TB makes it quite clear he is looking for the best candidate for the job and he emphasises that when asked whether it will be a foreigner or a Brit by saying he can see the preferred merits of a Brit but doesn't rule out a foreigner if he's right for the post. He really can't be much clearer than that. Add your view on that point to the earlier cynicism about the club effectively telling porkies re: the recruitment process and it's pretty clear you love a bit of conspiracy theory! As fans we can't moan about lack of communication one minute and then claim someone is openly lying if they don't say what you want them to the next. Take the interview for what it is. Under the circumstances, he didn't have to do it.[/p][/quote]I haven't a clue as to what you are on about regarding, 'porkies,' have you got me mixed up with another?[/p][/quote]i was replying to Pte[/p][/quote]Oh, my error and thanks for replying. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Fri 16 May 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

King Freeloader wrote:
pte wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to.

There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them.

We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.
It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job
The one that is prepared to work for the least money and have the team picked for him.Like TK & Bridcutt said down the marina mths ago Dunk & JFC are playing next season what ever happens its a done deal.What real manager would ever put up with that????
I wish they would ban your i.s.p. You add nothing to any conversation on this forum and your constant assault on Dunk and Forster Caskey is truly pathetic. Did they refuse to sign an autograph when you asked them because you are obsessed with them. OCD treatment is available on the NHS-my advice is to get yourself an appointment.
[quote][p][bold]King Freeloader[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I think that there might be a certain amount of play acting going on re our new manager. If Sherwood is the man Bloom wants, and if Sherwood is happy to come, then get the deal done. It's almost as though Bloom has to delay things for a period of time, if only to assure the fans that genuine deliberations took place prior to giving the job to the man they always intended giving the job to. There might be 50 applicants, but 40 of those applying can be ruled out quickly. Once down to a short list of 10, and assuming that Sherwood wants the job, the remaining 9 get measured against Sherwood, that process would give us just 2 or 3 to seriously consider, with Sherwood being one of them. We don't need to go through with this charade, as I said, if Bloom wants Sherwood and he wants to come, do the deal now.[/p][/quote]It takes time to negotiate wages. Don't forget FPP. The poker player that TB is means that he sees what each candidate wants in wages then playing one off against each other to knock the wage packet down. This will entail negotiating with up to 10 candidates all at the same time. The one that is prepared to work for the least, gets the job[/p][/quote]The one that is prepared to work for the least money and have the team picked for him.Like TK & Bridcutt said down the marina mths ago Dunk & JFC are playing next season what ever happens its a done deal.What real manager would ever put up with that????[/p][/quote]I wish they would ban your i.s.p. You add nothing to any conversation on this forum and your constant assault on Dunk and Forster Caskey is truly pathetic. Did they refuse to sign an autograph when you asked them because you are obsessed with them. OCD treatment is available on the NHS-my advice is to get yourself an appointment. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 4

6:39am Sat 17 May 14

mabuhay says...

why are all you people clamouring for tim Sherwood? there is a reason he has been a number two at Tottenham for so long, he is not management material. no experience in the pressure cooker of top management.
do you really want someone to cut his teeth for you, running a championship club?
he needs to do his apprenticeship further down the divisions, like many other of these British managers, that are being considered for the position have.
if you get him, good luck......its hard getting out of the championship.......e
ven harder getting back into it..
why are all you people clamouring for tim Sherwood? there is a reason he has been a number two at Tottenham for so long, he is not management material. no experience in the pressure cooker of top management. do you really want someone to cut his teeth for you, running a championship club? he needs to do his apprenticeship further down the divisions, like many other of these British managers, that are being considered for the position have. if you get him, good luck......its hard getting out of the championship.......e ven harder getting back into it.. mabuhay
  • Score: 0

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