Albion braced for interest in marksman Ulloa

Leo Ulloa is understood to be a target of Premier League clubs

Leo Ulloa is understood to be a target of Premier League clubs

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion are bracing themselves for a summer of speculation surrounding the future of Leo Ulloa.

Premier League clubs are interested in the Argentinian target man, The Argus understands.

The Seagulls have reportedly already rejected a £3 million bid for Ulloa from top-flight newcomers Leicester City.

Others are monitoring the situation but Ulloa’s ex-boss Gus Poyet has yet to make another move for one of his former players after taking Liam Bridcutt from Albion to Sunderland in January.

Ulloa has scored 23 goals in 50 Championship appearances, and 26 in 58 games in total, since Albion bought him in January last year when Poyet was manager for around £2 million from Spanish club Almeria.

He has attracted attention not just for his goals but also his all-round contribution as a lone centre-forward battling against twin centre-halves.

Ulloa has three years left on his contract and has settled on the South Coast with his family as he waits to discover who his third boss will be following the resignation of Oscar Garcia.

A spokesman for Ulloa told The Argus: “We are aware there is interest in him. We are not surprised, based on his record and the type of player he is. They are hard to find.

“He is contracted to the club and the decision is really up to them. He is ambitious to play as high as possible, like any player. Hopefully that will be with Brighton.”

Meanwhile, fitness coach Juan Torrijo, who arrived from Spain and Israel with Oscar, is parting company with Albion.

The future of goalkeeping coach Ruben Martinez, the other member of the backroom team Oscar brought with him, is unclear.

Former Norwich and Newcastle manager Chris Hughton is the new favourite with bookmakers to succeed Oscar at the Amex, ahead of Paul Clement and Tim Sherwood, after revealing yesterday he would be prepared to drop back into the Championship.

Neil Lennon is a 10-1 chance after quitting Celtic.

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5:10am Fri 23 May 14

JoeBlow says...

Hands off!
Hands off! JoeBlow
  • Score: 9

5:13am Fri 23 May 14

cheese rolls ! says...

Adios !
Adios ! cheese rolls !
  • Score: -14

5:16am Fri 23 May 14

lighteninglee says...

we can't go selling our best players if we want to compete for promotion its going to cost us enough to bring in class to fill the positions that are vacant at the mo...
we can't go selling our best players if we want to compete for promotion its going to cost us enough to bring in class to fill the positions that are vacant at the mo... lighteninglee
  • Score: 19

6:06am Fri 23 May 14

Neville says...

Just a matter of time before he joins Sunderland.
Just a matter of time before he joins Sunderland. Neville
  • Score: -10

6:23am Fri 23 May 14

bha3072011 says...

Sell him and then get two more strikers. Frazier Campbell has a relegation release clause of £800,000
Sell him and then get two more strikers. Frazier Campbell has a relegation release clause of £800,000 bha3072011
  • Score: -14

6:28am Fri 23 May 14

Bostik says...

Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest. Bostik
  • Score: -7

6:48am Fri 23 May 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning boys,

I'm going to say something that might annoy some people but I don't care, we all obviously want to keep our best players to help us to get up, but because we are not a Man City with endless cash were always likely going to go out and find gems like Leo for a couple off million and one day sell them on for hopefully for a good profit, we buy for two and sell for argument sake between 5-7 million that's bloody good business in my book by the club, it keeps our club moving moving forward helps pays some off the debt off, you don't always need to pay big money for players there are gems out there in the lower leagues, we need to sell players to keep us running smoothly!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning boys, I'm going to say something that might annoy some people but I don't care, we all obviously want to keep our best players to help us to get up, but because we are not a Man City with endless cash were always likely going to go out and find gems like Leo for a couple off million and one day sell them on for hopefully for a good profit, we buy for two and sell for argument sake between 5-7 million that's bloody good business in my book by the club, it keeps our club moving moving forward helps pays some off the debt off, you don't always need to pay big money for players there are gems out there in the lower leagues, we need to sell players to keep us running smoothly!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 17

7:14am Fri 23 May 14

john newman says...

Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?
Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east? john newman
  • Score: 0

7:24am Fri 23 May 14

AlanDuffy says...

Leicester can take a hike - their bid is "derisory". I understand it's business but suddenly these clubs get promoted, find themselves with shedloads of money and think they can raid lower league clubs for their best players. Come on, let's share it about a bit. I think the 6-7 million being quoted in some of the posts is nearer the mark and I'm sure Tony would consider a bid of that magnitutde acceptable. Financial Fair Play is the current buzzword, so let's see some fair play from the nouveau riche.
Leicester can take a hike - their bid is "derisory". I understand it's business but suddenly these clubs get promoted, find themselves with shedloads of money and think they can raid lower league clubs for their best players. Come on, let's share it about a bit. I think the 6-7 million being quoted in some of the posts is nearer the mark and I'm sure Tony would consider a bid of that magnitutde acceptable. Financial Fair Play is the current buzzword, so let's see some fair play from the nouveau riche. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 7

7:37am Fri 23 May 14

Grendel says...

Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.
Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure. Grendel
  • Score: 9

7:39am Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million ,
I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold?
I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase,
Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up!
Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million , I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold? I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase, Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up! mark by the sea
  • Score: 8

7:40am Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Grendel wrote:
Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.
Yes perhaps she should be next manager?
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.[/p][/quote]Yes perhaps she should be next manager? mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

7:55am Fri 23 May 14

albionfan33 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million ,
I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold?
I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase,
Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up!
this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million , I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold? I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase, Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up![/p][/quote]this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other albionfan33
  • Score: 8

7:59am Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

albionfan33 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million ,
I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold?
I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase,
Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up!
this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other
Yes it is a forum, but when someone continually says I made it up its a complete bore!
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million , I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold? I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase, Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up![/p][/quote]this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other[/p][/quote]Yes it is a forum, but when someone continually says I made it up its a complete bore! mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

8:08am Fri 23 May 14

albionfan33 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
albionfan33 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million ,
I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold?
I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase,
Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up!
this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other
Yes it is a forum, but when someone continually says I made it up its a complete bore!
most of the time i like both your comments but this @rsey carp is getting so stupid. does it really matter weather he aggrees with you or not?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million , I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold? I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase, Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up![/p][/quote]this is an albion forum not an i told u so forum the pair of u are getting on my ti ts with this petty bickering why dont you both just not reply to comments made by the other[/p][/quote]Yes it is a forum, but when someone continually says I made it up its a complete bore![/p][/quote]most of the time i like both your comments but this @rsey carp is getting so stupid. does it really matter weather he aggrees with you or not? albionfan33
  • Score: 9

8:16am Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

john newman wrote:
Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?
Yep, their run-in was a complete shambles. Credit where it's due...
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?[/p][/quote]Yep, their run-in was a complete shambles. Credit where it's due... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

8:23am Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Grendel wrote:
Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.
I'd suggest that's Delia and the Norwich board covering their backs. Always somebody else's fault and easy to blame a departed manager when you're left behind facing the music.
I can see why the prospect of Hughton doesn't inspire many on here and he does come across as the type of guy who'll do as he's told by the hierarchy, but if you look at his whole managerial career, he's no dummy as some would suggest.
But whoever gets the job, I hope the club put all transfer business on hold until an appointment. As TB has openly said that the coach.manager DOES have a say, it's only right and proper he's fully afforded that option.
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest that's Delia and the Norwich board covering their backs. Always somebody else's fault and easy to blame a departed manager when you're left behind facing the music. I can see why the prospect of Hughton doesn't inspire many on here and he does come across as the type of guy who'll do as he's told by the hierarchy, but if you look at his whole managerial career, he's no dummy as some would suggest. But whoever gets the job, I hope the club put all transfer business on hold until an appointment. As TB has openly said that the coach.manager DOES have a say, it's only right and proper he's fully afforded that option. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

8:30am Fri 23 May 14

mikeygit says...

Like it or not every player has his price and if ´the price is right´then Ulloa, unfortunately, will go. Agree we cannot keep selling the family silver but as long as we replace with as good or better for the club then that IS good business. But most pressing is a good new manager--and soon!!
Like it or not every player has his price and if ´the price is right´then Ulloa, unfortunately, will go. Agree we cannot keep selling the family silver but as long as we replace with as good or better for the club then that IS good business. But most pressing is a good new manager--and soon!! mikeygit
  • Score: -1

8:40am Fri 23 May 14

Max Ripple says...

We always knew Leo would go one day. He has ambition. And I don't mean in a negative way. He wants to play at the highest level possible. Of course he does. Wouldn't you? I don't know what the ideal price is for him. Depends on what clubs are willing to pay and what TB thinks he can get for him. Leo is a decent bloke who would love to be playing in the premiership. If that could come with Albion then great. Maybe he'll give it one more season if we are lucky. UTA!
We always knew Leo would go one day. He has ambition. And I don't mean in a negative way. He wants to play at the highest level possible. Of course he does. Wouldn't you? I don't know what the ideal price is for him. Depends on what clubs are willing to pay and what TB thinks he can get for him. Leo is a decent bloke who would love to be playing in the premiership. If that could come with Albion then great. Maybe he'll give it one more season if we are lucky. UTA! Max Ripple
  • Score: 5

9:05am Fri 23 May 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
[quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level. AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: -1

9:20am Fri 23 May 14

Sussex J says...

Leicester have just announced the signing of Mathew Upson
Leicester have just announced the signing of Mathew Upson Sussex J
  • Score: -1

9:55am Fri 23 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Grendel wrote:
Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.
Delia is just stirring the cake mix here.
I would suggest if Norwich had kept faith with Chris Hughton they would still be in the Prem. I think Norwich are bound for League 1. Appointing Neil Adams is a disaster I'm afraid. Now I'm doing the stirring! UTA
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.[/p][/quote]Delia is just stirring the cake mix here. I would suggest if Norwich had kept faith with Chris Hughton they would still be in the Prem. I think Norwich are bound for League 1. Appointing Neil Adams is a disaster I'm afraid. Now I'm doing the stirring! UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

9:57am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

john newman wrote:
Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?
What are you talking about? Do you know anything about Football at all?
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?[/p][/quote]What are you talking about? Do you know anything about Football at all? Claude Back
  • Score: 6

10:16am Fri 23 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward!
[quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.[/p][/quote]Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

10:58am Fri 23 May 14

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward!
That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.[/p][/quote]Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward![/p][/quote]That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker. AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: 1

11:38am Fri 23 May 14

rackhamlouis says...

AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward!
That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.
£7million, got to think about letting him go for that although based on what Palace paid Peterborough for Gayle we should try and hold out for more considering his goal ratio against v our style of play. Anything in this region though we have to take as good as he's been at times there have been plenty of poor displays as well, drifting out wide far too often, lack of pace, not winning the ball enough when played directly up to him etc. I know you can’t buy a striker without paying over the odds these days but depending on what game plan the new manager wants to play a hefty sum of money in the transfer chest will allow him to find a good couple of players to support CMS'
[quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.[/p][/quote]Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward![/p][/quote]That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.[/p][/quote]£7million, got to think about letting him go for that although based on what Palace paid Peterborough for Gayle we should try and hold out for more considering his goal ratio against v our style of play. Anything in this region though we have to take as good as he's been at times there have been plenty of poor displays as well, drifting out wide far too often, lack of pace, not winning the ball enough when played directly up to him etc. I know you can’t buy a striker without paying over the odds these days but depending on what game plan the new manager wants to play a hefty sum of money in the transfer chest will allow him to find a good couple of players to support CMS' rackhamlouis
  • Score: 1

11:39am Fri 23 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward!
That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.
Yep - take your point in that last sentence!
[quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.[/p][/quote]Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward![/p][/quote]That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.[/p][/quote]Yep - take your point in that last sentence! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

11:56am Fri 23 May 14

Neville says...

It's not true that the Albion are a selling club,we can,t be we have virtually no players left to sell,it was a joke for those ready to pummel the thumbs down button.
It's not true that the Albion are a selling club,we can,t be we have virtually no players left to sell,it was a joke for those ready to pummel the thumbs down button. Neville
  • Score: -2

11:58am Fri 23 May 14

Gee Jay says...

john newman wrote:
Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?
A Toon man I suspect, John
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: Who would join Poyet and his football disaster in the north east?[/p][/quote]A Toon man I suspect, John Gee Jay
  • Score: -1

12:01pm Fri 23 May 14

Gee Jay says...

Grendel wrote:
Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.
She was the same when her suet dumplings turned out soggy, she said that they had been left in the stew for too long.
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: Delia Smith has just been quoted as saying Norwich would have stayed up had they sacked Hughton sooner. Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? Ulloa worth more than 3 million for sure.[/p][/quote]She was the same when her suet dumplings turned out soggy, she said that they had been left in the stew for too long. Gee Jay
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Fri 23 May 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

Houghton ? no doubt he'll bring in his two other sacked managers.....if he comes, my season ticket will follow him !!
Houghton ? no doubt he'll bring in his two other sacked managers.....if he comes, my season ticket will follow him !! Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 1

1:56pm Fri 23 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

So the club slap a price on Leo and tell the world, 'pay up or shut up.' If there is a release clause in Ulloah's contract, and if it is 7 million, then that is the figure where any talks should start from and not a penny less.
The club obviously don't want to lose Leo but, there comes a time when the money on the table is of a size that you just can't say no. The important thing is that the club stay firm on their evaluation of Leo as I don't see Leo doing a Bridcutt, he won't sit in the corner sulking.
Think about Zaha, he went for 11 million plus add ons, different positions yes, but to Palace he was worth his weight in gold, and they made United pay, why should we behave any differently with Leo. I say again, start at 7 million and see how high it goes, their is nothing wrong with a bidding war.
So the club slap a price on Leo and tell the world, 'pay up or shut up.' If there is a release clause in Ulloah's contract, and if it is 7 million, then that is the figure where any talks should start from and not a penny less. The club obviously don't want to lose Leo but, there comes a time when the money on the table is of a size that you just can't say no. The important thing is that the club stay firm on their evaluation of Leo as I don't see Leo doing a Bridcutt, he won't sit in the corner sulking. Think about Zaha, he went for 11 million plus add ons, different positions yes, but to Palace he was worth his weight in gold, and they made United pay, why should we behave any differently with Leo. I say again, start at 7 million and see how high it goes, their is nothing wrong with a bidding war. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

2:35pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today.
I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today.
Panic over, he's down here on other business.

He claims Gus got £2m for keeping Sunderland up. No wonder he looked so worried at the thought of being relegated!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today.[/p][/quote]Panic over, he's down here on other business. He claims Gus got £2m for keeping Sunderland up. No wonder he looked so worried at the thought of being relegated! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Fri 23 May 14

nellyboo1 says...

I think that upson shouldnt have gone but maybe he deserved 1 last time at premier football, whereas Ulloa i havent been impressed with the last few months. As for Cms im a fan of him because along with solly march and lualua they showed they could make goals.
Maybe Tony Bloom needs to hurry and get us a manager so we dont have a shambles like beginning of last season and we get players in that have been released by premier sides.
After all brighton have shown they can get playoffs, perhaps with the right free players we could go higher.
I think that upson shouldnt have gone but maybe he deserved 1 last time at premier football, whereas Ulloa i havent been impressed with the last few months. As for Cms im a fan of him because along with solly march and lualua they showed they could make goals. Maybe Tony Bloom needs to hurry and get us a manager so we dont have a shambles like beginning of last season and we get players in that have been released by premier sides. After all brighton have shown they can get playoffs, perhaps with the right free players we could go higher. nellyboo1
  • Score: 1

5:10pm Fri 23 May 14

true fan says...

Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone
Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone true fan
  • Score: -1

5:28pm Fri 23 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

true fan wrote:
Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone
Yeah right! 16 goals in 3/4 of a season? With a full term and better deliveries in he would be a 25 goals a season merchant at this level - so why would we sell him so cheaply?!
[quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone[/p][/quote]Yeah right! 16 goals in 3/4 of a season? With a full term and better deliveries in he would be a 25 goals a season merchant at this level - so why would we sell him so cheaply?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

true fan wrote:
Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone
Sell him for less than we turned down at the beginning of last season? 16 goals or however many it was in a team that didn't score many is exceptional. And 'poor in the air' - it's like you've never seen him play :-)
[quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone[/p][/quote]Sell him for less than we turned down at the beginning of last season? 16 goals or however many it was in a team that didn't score many is exceptional. And 'poor in the air' - it's like you've never seen him play :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

5:44pm Fri 23 May 14

true fan says...

I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????
I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more???? true fan
  • Score: -2

5:46pm Fri 23 May 14

true fan says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
true fan wrote:
Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone
Sell him for less than we turned down at the beginning of last season? 16 goals or however many it was in a team that didn't score many is exceptional. And 'poor in the air' - it's like you've never seen him play :-)
When was the last time you saw him win a 50:50 header?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: Sell him anything more than £4m and we should snap their hands off. His overall football ability is poor. No touch, no pass and for a big man, poor in the air. He spends more time on his back side or waving his arms around appealing for fouls than linking the play. While we are at it Buckley can go too, too injury prone[/p][/quote]Sell him for less than we turned down at the beginning of last season? 16 goals or however many it was in a team that didn't score many is exceptional. And 'poor in the air' - it's like you've never seen him play :-)[/p][/quote]When was the last time you saw him win a 50:50 header? true fan
  • Score: -1

5:57pm Fri 23 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

true fan wrote:
I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????
He 'scores on occasion'!! Ha ha ha - whilst I can accept he has missed a few 'on occasion' you seem to have ignored my point about only having 3/4 of a season, the fact he is our leading goalscorer and the other aspects of his game such as defending at set-pieces - I've lost count of the times I've seen him head the ball away from my seat in the lower West!
[quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????[/p][/quote]He 'scores on occasion'!! Ha ha ha - whilst I can accept he has missed a few 'on occasion' you seem to have ignored my point about only having 3/4 of a season, the fact he is our leading goalscorer and the other aspects of his game such as defending at set-pieces - I've lost count of the times I've seen him head the ball away from my seat in the lower West! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 4

6:09pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

true fan wrote:
I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????
Yeah, why does he not score more chances than he misses, like NO PLAYER EVER?
[quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????[/p][/quote]Yeah, why does he not score more chances than he misses, like NO PLAYER EVER? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

6:09pm Fri 23 May 14

To baldly go says...

AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
AburridoEnTrabajo wrote:
Bostik wrote:
Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.
I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.
Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward!
That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.
Think Cms will score more than Ulloa if we play to his strengths imo, Ulloa is a one trick donkey, put it in the air and he might score, other than that he sits on his backside, to slow and to much complaining. Cms goal ratio 2012/13 before his injury was 1 in every 2.8 games, Ulloa's ratio this season also with injuries 1 in every 2.4 games, not a lot of difference and I know who gives the most every time he plays.
£7m for Ulloa, yes grab it with both hands and investing it wisely will take us further than hanging on to him imo.
[quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AburridoEnTrabajo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: Let him go. I believe the club want £7 million for him. Take it and re invest.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with this. If a Premiership club comes in with a decent offer then the club has little choice but to accept it, otherwise there's a risk of Ulloa doing a Bridcutt and sulking in the corner. It will mean that the club will have to rebuild next season even more than it currently has to, but since we're also getting a new manager we might as well start from scratch. We could bring in at least two up and coming young strikers in the hope that one of them comes through. We still have CMS available as well - ok so he's not so prolific - but he's proven at this level.[/p][/quote]Sorry but unfortunately CMS is not proven at this level - he was great for Peterborough in Div 1 hence our paying £2.5m but his ratio for them in the Championship was 1:4! For BHA in his first season his ratio was around 1:4.5 games and though this improved to 1:3 1n 2012/13 in a season cut short by injury. The last few seasons we have come up short sticking the ball in the net - Craig, despite being a lovely fella, will not take us forward![/p][/quote]That's what I meant by him not being so prolific. I wouldn't want him as a first choice striker, but having him there and knowing he's not going to be a complete disaster means we can perhaps be more adventurous with the other strikers we bring in. If Ulloa goes we'd need to bring in 3 strikers to replace him, Hoskins and Barnes. I'd rather we tried for a couple of young, cheap potential Connor Wickhams than splashing out on just one more recognised player, and then scraping the loan-market barrel for some back-up player who is probably going to be useless. Besides it's all a bit academic until we know what manager we'll get and what kind of formation he'll play. There's a strong argument that CMS was played out of position under Gus, and there were signs at the end of last season that he was much better when playing behind another striker.[/p][/quote]Think Cms will score more than Ulloa if we play to his strengths imo, Ulloa is a one trick donkey, put it in the air and he might score, other than that he sits on his backside, to slow and to much complaining. Cms goal ratio 2012/13 before his injury was 1 in every 2.8 games, Ulloa's ratio this season also with injuries 1 in every 2.4 games, not a lot of difference and I know who gives the most every time he plays. £7m for Ulloa, yes grab it with both hands and investing it wisely will take us further than hanging on to him imo. To baldly go
  • Score: 0

6:10pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

I'm sure I read somewhere that he had a better goals/game or goals/minutes ratio than anyone else in the division other than Jordan. I haven't checked the stats but it wouldn't surprise me.

Even if false, the undeniable fact he scored so many in a low scoring team despite missing a quarter of the season speaks volumes.
I'm sure I read somewhere that he had a better goals/game or goals/minutes ratio than anyone else in the division other than Jordan. I haven't checked the stats but it wouldn't surprise me. Even if false, the undeniable fact he scored so many in a low scoring team despite missing a quarter of the season speaks volumes. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

7:37pm Fri 23 May 14

Falmer Wizard says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning boys,

I'm going to say something that might annoy some people but I don't care, we all obviously want to keep our best players to help us to get up, but because we are not a Man City with endless cash were always likely going to go out and find gems like Leo for a couple off million and one day sell them on for hopefully for a good profit, we buy for two and sell for argument sake between 5-7 million that's bloody good business in my book by the club, it keeps our club moving moving forward helps pays some off the debt off, you don't always need to pay big money for players there are gems out there in the lower leagues, we need to sell players to keep us running smoothly!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Spot on,we are a Championship side with an excellent stadium,give us attacking entertaining football with plenty of goals at home and we shall be
financially secure
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning boys, I'm going to say something that might annoy some people but I don't care, we all obviously want to keep our best players to help us to get up, but because we are not a Man City with endless cash were always likely going to go out and find gems like Leo for a couple off million and one day sell them on for hopefully for a good profit, we buy for two and sell for argument sake between 5-7 million that's bloody good business in my book by the club, it keeps our club moving moving forward helps pays some off the debt off, you don't always need to pay big money for players there are gems out there in the lower leagues, we need to sell players to keep us running smoothly!! Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]Spot on,we are a Championship side with an excellent stadium,give us attacking entertaining football with plenty of goals at home and we shall be financially secure Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Fri 23 May 14

Falmer Wizard says...

I was not confident that Ulloa would be up to scratch in his first year in the Championship however despite being the only man up front and taking a battering for game after game his goal tally was very good,Leicester could well provide him the support he needed.
I was not confident that Ulloa would be up to scratch in his first year in the Championship however despite being the only man up front and taking a battering for game after game his goal tally was very good,Leicester could well provide him the support he needed. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Fri 23 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
I was not confident that Ulloa would be up to scratch in his first year in the Championship however despite being the only man up front and taking a battering for game after game his goal tally was very good,Leicester could well provide him the support he needed.
Let's hope it's BHA'S new manager who provides him with the support he needs!!!
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: I was not confident that Ulloa would be up to scratch in his first year in the Championship however despite being the only man up front and taking a battering for game after game his goal tally was very good,Leicester could well provide him the support he needed.[/p][/quote]Let's hope it's BHA'S new manager who provides him with the support he needs!!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 2

7:54pm Fri 23 May 14

ARMANA says...

A whinging diver, !! flog im, !!!!
A whinging diver, !! flog im, !!!! ARMANA
  • Score: 1

8:17pm Fri 23 May 14

Withdean-er says...

I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class. Withdean-er
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million. mark by the sea
  • Score: 3

10:27pm Fri 23 May 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million ,
I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold?
I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase,
Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up!
Have you got a grudge against Arnie?? If not it seriously sounds like it. I would be careful mate, someone might take offence!!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Lie steers bid is to unsettle the player , we now have a spokes person coming out for Leo , the big guy has a clause around the 7 million , I wonder if Arnie would like his humble pie hot or cold? I mentioned I was at the Amex where the Leicester head scout was introduced to me, and I said this interest would come! The three million is a gambit bid, don't be surprised if west ham don't join the chase, Those that talk of woods coming here? Taking a drop in salary, dropping from the premier league ? Some on here need to wake up![/p][/quote]Have you got a grudge against Arnie?? If not it seriously sounds like it. I would be careful mate, someone might take offence!!! Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 2

12:19am Sat 24 May 14

Withdean-er says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.[/p][/quote]I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

12:31am Sat 24 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today.
New Albion boss??? ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: I hope Ulloa isn't the reason Charlie Oatway is at the Amex today.[/p][/quote]New Albion boss??? ;0) Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

12:33am Sat 24 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

Withdean-er wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.
I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season!
He DOES bring other players into the game!!
He does defend like a trooper!!!
What more do you want ffs?!!

Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!!

As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three!
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.[/p][/quote]I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season! He DOES bring other players into the game!! He does defend like a trooper!!! What more do you want ffs?!! Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!! As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

12:36am Sat 24 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
true fan wrote:
I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????
He 'scores on occasion'!! Ha ha ha - whilst I can accept he has missed a few 'on occasion' you seem to have ignored my point about only having 3/4 of a season, the fact he is our leading goalscorer and the other aspects of his game such as defending at set-pieces - I've lost count of the times I've seen him head the ball away from my seat in the lower West!
From your seat? Were you bearing down on goal at the time, Bluenose??!!
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]true fan[/bold] wrote: I've been to every home game and a few away over the last few seasons and I can honestly say I believe he is a donkey 90% of the time! Yes he puts the ball in the net on occasion, but misses a hat full. Simple header v Hull, and even more recently one on ones at Nottingham and 2nd leg at Derby. Perhaps if he wad more proficient at linking play the team would have scored more????[/p][/quote]He 'scores on occasion'!! Ha ha ha - whilst I can accept he has missed a few 'on occasion' you seem to have ignored my point about only having 3/4 of a season, the fact he is our leading goalscorer and the other aspects of his game such as defending at set-pieces - I've lost count of the times I've seen him head the ball away from my seat in the lower West![/p][/quote]From your seat? Were you bearing down on goal at the time, Bluenose??!! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

12:39am Sat 24 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Think he will go at about 5 million.Palace and Swansea also really like him.Like Bridcutt and TK said last summer we will just be left with the rubbish like Dunk its a done deal.The reason OG told the national press he wanted off mths ago.
Oh it's Freeloaders AGAIN! See you in a few weeks folks.
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: Think he will go at about 5 million.Palace and Swansea also really like him.Like Bridcutt and TK said last summer we will just be left with the rubbish like Dunk its a done deal.The reason OG told the national press he wanted off mths ago.[/p][/quote]Oh it's Freeloaders AGAIN! See you in a few weeks folks. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

8:56pm Sat 24 May 14

Withdean-er says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.
I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season!
He DOES bring other players into the game!!
He does defend like a trooper!!!
What more do you want ffs?!!

Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!!

As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three!
Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.[/p][/quote]I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season! He DOES bring other players into the game!! He does defend like a trooper!!! What more do you want ffs?!! Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!! As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three![/p][/quote]Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager. Withdean-er
  • Score: 1

9:55pm Sat 24 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

Withdean-er wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.
I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season!
He DOES bring other players into the game!!
He does defend like a trooper!!!
What more do you want ffs?!!

Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!!

As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three!
Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager.
Now calm and happy to debate - apologies for the 'intensity' of previous post!
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.[/p][/quote]I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season! He DOES bring other players into the game!! He does defend like a trooper!!! What more do you want ffs?!! Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!! As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three![/p][/quote]Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager.[/p][/quote]Now calm and happy to debate - apologies for the 'intensity' of previous post! brighton bluenose
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10:33pm Sun 25 May 14

Withdean-er says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS.

Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around.

Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.
You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime,
If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.
I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.
I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season!
He DOES bring other players into the game!!
He does defend like a trooper!!!
What more do you want ffs?!!

Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!!

As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three!
Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager.
Now calm and happy to debate - apologies for the 'intensity' of previous post!
No worries. I respect opposing opinions on Ulloa. One of the best strikers we've had in recent years, but I get frustrated by his negativity in challenging with central defenders in open play and then letting that affect his game and attitude of the officials, and I know many disagree with the following .... the lack of pace and mobility in his game, which was symptomatic of our team eg Greer and Andrews too, with age taking its toll. On the other hand, many rate Ulloa massively, Nigel Pearson included IF the rumours are true.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: I agree totally with the posters who are critical of Ulloa and CMS. Sorry, but CMS will never cut it as a consistent Championship striker, as borne out by his goals at this level per game for both P'boro and BHA. Seems like a great bloke, a fantastic attitude on the pitch in never giving up, but at age 30 he isn't going to turn those stats around. Ulloa - never wins 50:50 balls played up even against journeymen centre-halves like those of Blackpool, nonstop whining the physical side of the game (only serving quite rightly for officials to ignore the claims), has very little pace and mobility making it so easy for defences to organise against us, and misses stacks of chances where Barnes or anyone else would have been slagged off. He turns 28 this Summer and so he's not going to find more pace and mobility about the pitch now. Let's cash in - I would be stunned if he set the PL alight with consistent goals as Michu did for Swansea in his first season - not in that class.[/p][/quote]You miss the whole point about strikers, goals ... Simple ulloa is a goal every two games which makes him. A prime target .. 28 years old, his prime, If you think we paid Hoskins 250k to get fit, then when fit we release him then this guy is worth 10 million.[/p][/quote]I would understand if he was a fantastic poacher, not necessarily a great footballer, but popping up with vital goals with great regularity .... but he doesn't. If you look at the actual games 2013/14, Ulloa frequently had spells of not scoring game after game. It's not enough to make up for the massive limitations in his game - lack of mobility, dire lack of pace, losing most duels with defenders on 50:50 balls, and the fruitless whining with the officials. The pace and mobility issue really does enhance the lack of threat on the counter in BHA's game - opponents know we cannot beat them for pace with a ball or over the top or counter with great speed. So many times last season, the WSU was like a morgue as this incredibly dull slow BHA football took hold, with even the most positive of Albion fans quietly or very vocally fed up. Let's squeeze everything last £m out of Leicester, and move on, but only when Burke/The Board have alternatives 100% ready to sign.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying he's perfect but he got 16 goals in 3/4 of a season! He DOES bring other players into the game!! He does defend like a trooper!!! What more do you want ffs?!! Important goals? I guess you didn't travel to Forest!!! As for not scoring 'game after game' look at Barnes or CMS who we paid the same amount for - I know who I would put in my team week in, week out in a choice between those three![/p][/quote]Just a debate, so calm down. You know you are right and won't listen to anyone else. In the WSU during the second half of the season, even the most loyal of fans (who normally despise the moaning fans), were getting disillusioned with the Albion's lack of pace in the team, with Ulloa's histrionics and failure to compete for high balls. There is an awful lot lacking in his game. I've seen enough Championship strikers like Nugent and Ings, who are mobile, harry defenders for the entire 90 minutes, as well as scoring regularly. All the talk that we can get Leicester to pay many £m's - I would love it if they were rich and stupid enough to do that, and TB uses that cash together with the unspent money from earlier sales, and the fortunes saved in wages in letting so many well paid players go .... to rebuild the squad with the new manager.[/p][/quote]Now calm and happy to debate - apologies for the 'intensity' of previous post![/p][/quote]No worries. I respect opposing opinions on Ulloa. One of the best strikers we've had in recent years, but I get frustrated by his negativity in challenging with central defenders in open play and then letting that affect his game and attitude of the officials, and I know many disagree with the following .... the lack of pace and mobility in his game, which was symptomatic of our team eg Greer and Andrews too, with age taking its toll. On the other hand, many rate Ulloa massively, Nigel Pearson included IF the rumours are true. Withdean-er
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