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Upson joins Leicester

The Argus: Matt Upson Matt Upson

Albion centre-half and player of the year Matt Upson has signed a one-year deal with Premier League newcomers Leicester City.

Upson, 35, was still wanted by the Seagulls but he has decided to join Nigel Pearson's Championship champions instead from July 1, once his one-year contract at the Amex expires.

His departure leaves managerless Albion with two recognised centre-halves, captain Gordon Greer and youngster Lewis Dunk, following Adam El-Abd's move to Bristol City in January.

Upson initially joined Albion on loan from Stoke in January 2013 before signing a one-year deal last summer.

He helped the Seagulls to the Championship play-offs two years in succession and was particularly influential this term under Oscar Garcia.

The former Arsenal, West Ham, Birmingham and England stopper made 43 league starts, more than any other player apart from Stephen Ward.

He was hampered towards the end of the campaign by an ankle injury sustained at Barnsley in April and missed Albion's second leg defeat in the play-offs at Derby County.

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9:12am Fri 23 May 14

Simbosims says...

On NOOOOOoOOo

Didn't see that one coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On NOOOOOoOOo Didn't see that one coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simbosims
  • Score: 0

9:13am Fri 23 May 14

DuncanThickett says...

On an unrelated subject, i see Ben Hamer has joined LCFC from Charlton. He would have been perfect for us, but i guess warming the Premier League bench for 9 months is more preferable...
On an unrelated subject, i see Ben Hamer has joined LCFC from Charlton. He would have been perfect for us, but i guess warming the Premier League bench for 9 months is more preferable... DuncanThickett
  • Score: 4

9:14am Fri 23 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored.



Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".
There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored. Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee". Captain Haddock
  • Score: 28

9:20am Fri 23 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Two days after he was deservedly included in England's worst ever team. Good luck to him - but personally I think that the albion are much better off bringing in younger players. This is the time to build for the future.
Two days after he was deservedly included in England's worst ever team. Good luck to him - but personally I think that the albion are much better off bringing in younger players. This is the time to build for the future. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 27

9:25am Fri 23 May 14

Aye Aye says...

Our world didn't end when Bridge left and I have no doubt life will continue after Upson - now is the time to bolster our defence with sub-30 year olds! Many of us have been saying that over the past season or two so let's not panic!
Our world didn't end when Bridge left and I have no doubt life will continue after Upson - now is the time to bolster our defence with sub-30 year olds! Many of us have been saying that over the past season or two so let's not panic! Aye Aye
  • Score: 23

9:29am Fri 23 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Disappointing for us but can't blame him for taking possibly a final shot at PL football. Money talks I'm afraid.
Good luck Matt Upson and thanks for everything. UTA
Disappointing for us but can't blame him for taking possibly a final shot at PL football. Money talks I'm afraid. Good luck Matt Upson and thanks for everything. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 44

9:32am Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

He obviously wanted a final crack at the Prem so good luck to him.
He obviously wanted a final crack at the Prem so good luck to him. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 16

9:45am Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

I personally wish Matt all the very best. He has been exceptional for us these past 2 seasons and the complete professional.
We will miss him terribly for sure but if any aging footballer deserves one last swan song, it's Matt.

It does leave me questioning our policies once again though... I get that we like to review where we stand at season end before looking at contracts, to some degree at least, but surely this way of doing things can't be the only way.
We have now lost both Tom and Matt to this way of working and you could argue Murray too.
I understand it's a risk sorting a contract out for someone who might not be good enough should we make a step up.
What has been proven this close season though is that it is also a risk to leave it until the last few weeks of a contract.

We have lost out here and thumbs down or not, it's own own fault.
I personally wish Matt all the very best. He has been exceptional for us these past 2 seasons and the complete professional. We will miss him terribly for sure but if any aging footballer deserves one last swan song, it's Matt. It does leave me questioning our policies once again though... I get that we like to review where we stand at season end before looking at contracts, to some degree at least, but surely this way of doing things can't be the only way. We have now lost both Tom and Matt to this way of working and you could argue Murray too. I understand it's a risk sorting a contract out for someone who might not be good enough should we make a step up. What has been proven this close season though is that it is also a risk to leave it until the last few weeks of a contract. We have lost out here and thumbs down or not, it's own own fault. SMF20
  • Score: 47

9:52am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Disappointing for us but can't blame him for taking possibly a final shot at PL football. Money talks I'm afraid.
Good luck Matt Upson and thanks for everything. UTA
Money doesn't talk...it swears.
Matt was a good player and read the game well but he would have had to be replaced at the end of next season if we won promotion, or before.maybe if injury caught up with him.
So, not the disaster it seems. Except.....did someone mention Dunk? I think the Article did once and got away with it.
Aaah, I've just done it again and have probably awoken the mighty behemoth, Freeloaders... ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Disappointing for us but can't blame him for taking possibly a final shot at PL football. Money talks I'm afraid. Good luck Matt Upson and thanks for everything. UTA[/p][/quote]Money doesn't talk...it swears. Matt was a good player and read the game well but he would have had to be replaced at the end of next season if we won promotion, or before.maybe if injury caught up with him. So, not the disaster it seems. Except.....did someone mention Dunk? I think the Article did once and got away with it. Aaah, I've just done it again and have probably awoken the mighty behemoth, Freeloaders... ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 8

9:56am Fri 23 May 14

peterpan32 says...

Cheers matt!!!
i do however think he could end up like bridge, spend the next season injured. He isn't getting any younger. Do we want to pay wages for another player who might be injured all season. More than likely for him. We have missed out here. Even if he was to be injured all season, he could have still been a mentor for the young guns.
we are going to miss out on very good players if we don't start putting things into place.
Cheers matt!!! i do however think he could end up like bridge, spend the next season injured. He isn't getting any younger. Do we want to pay wages for another player who might be injured all season. More than likely for him. We have missed out here. Even if he was to be injured all season, he could have still been a mentor for the young guns. we are going to miss out on very good players if we don't start putting things into place. peterpan32
  • Score: 9

10:07am Fri 23 May 14

Towner83 says...

Gutted!
Gutted! Towner83
  • Score: 1

10:12am Fri 23 May 14

JeffLomer says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Two days after he was deservedly included in England's worst ever team. Good luck to him - but personally I think that the albion are much better off bringing in younger players. This is the time to build for the future.
Your absolutely spot on Brian, now is the time to have a younger back four who can be here for years at Brighton, I wish matt all the best at his new club, will they decide to move Greer on I wouldn't be surprised if we did,
Onwards and upwards
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Two days after he was deservedly included in England's worst ever team. Good luck to him - but personally I think that the albion are much better off bringing in younger players. This is the time to build for the future.[/p][/quote]Your absolutely spot on Brian, now is the time to have a younger back four who can be here for years at Brighton, I wish matt all the best at his new club, will they decide to move Greer on I wouldn't be surprised if we did, Onwards and upwards Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

10:19am Fri 23 May 14

Gazza by the sea says...

I'm not even sure it's about money. Someone offers him the chance to play, what is likely his last season, at the top level he's gonna take it. And why not.

Anyway, just seen Tony down the cash and carry with a jumbo-sized trolley. Looking for 2 keepers, 2 centre backs, a left back, 2 midfielders and at least 2 forwards. He did have his American Express Platinum credit card with him.....
I'm not even sure it's about money. Someone offers him the chance to play, what is likely his last season, at the top level he's gonna take it. And why not. Anyway, just seen Tony down the cash and carry with a jumbo-sized trolley. Looking for 2 keepers, 2 centre backs, a left back, 2 midfielders and at least 2 forwards. He did have his American Express Platinum credit card with him..... Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 15

10:21am Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment.
Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen.

Fair play to them.
Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment. Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen. Fair play to them. SMF20
  • Score: 9

10:23am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

Gazza by the sea wrote:
I'm not even sure it's about money. Someone offers him the chance to play, what is likely his last season, at the top level he's gonna take it. And why not.

Anyway, just seen Tony down the cash and carry with a jumbo-sized trolley. Looking for 2 keepers, 2 centre backs, a left back, 2 midfielders and at least 2 forwards. He did have his American Express Platinum credit card with him.....
...and Nathan Jones too?
[quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: I'm not even sure it's about money. Someone offers him the chance to play, what is likely his last season, at the top level he's gonna take it. And why not. Anyway, just seen Tony down the cash and carry with a jumbo-sized trolley. Looking for 2 keepers, 2 centre backs, a left back, 2 midfielders and at least 2 forwards. He did have his American Express Platinum credit card with him.....[/p][/quote]...and Nathan Jones too? Claude Back
  • Score: 2

10:27am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

SMF20 wrote:
Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment.
Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen.

Fair play to them.
I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment. Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen. Fair play to them.[/p][/quote]I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree? Claude Back
  • Score: 5

10:31am Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

Where do we stand now with players gone?

Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs?

If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players.

Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number
Where do we stand now with players gone? Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs? If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players. Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number SMF20
  • Score: 28

10:35am Fri 23 May 14

Towner83 says...

We seriously need to make sure that this pre-season doesn't descend into a farce like the last one. I'm all for being patient but the squad is threadbare and we don't have a manager. TB, please get someone in ASAP and let them assemble their own squad
We seriously need to make sure that this pre-season doesn't descend into a farce like the last one. I'm all for being patient but the squad is threadbare and we don't have a manager. TB, please get someone in ASAP and let them assemble their own squad Towner83
  • Score: 9

10:35am Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

Claude Back wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment.
Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen.

Fair play to them.
I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree?
I do to a degree Claude. They're still actively making it happen though. I admire that.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment. Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen. Fair play to them.[/p][/quote]I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree?[/p][/quote]I do to a degree Claude. They're still actively making it happen though. I admire that. SMF20
  • Score: 3

10:38am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

Replacement CB on his way from Spurs...possibly.
A clue?
Replacement CB on his way from Spurs...possibly. A clue? Claude Back
  • Score: -1

10:39am Fri 23 May 14

Claude Back says...

SMF20 wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment.
Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen.

Fair play to them.
I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree?
I do to a degree Claude. They're still actively making it happen though. I admire that.
So do I.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Like Leicester or not, you have to admire their proactive approach to recruitment. Whilst others are happy to bumble along taking their time Leicester have grabbed the bull by the horns and are making it happen. Fair play to them.[/p][/quote]I agree and I do like Nigel Pearson but Leicester have known for months that they were going up and could decide weeks ago for their future players. Whereas, us poor 'bumblers' had no idea. Agree?[/p][/quote]I do to a degree Claude. They're still actively making it happen though. I admire that.[/p][/quote]So do I. Claude Back
  • Score: 1

10:57am Fri 23 May 14

john newman says...

Get a manager before all the best leave
Get a manager before all the best leave john newman
  • Score: 0

10:58am Fri 23 May 14

bIsleybill says...

Great player for the Albion...good luck!

Suspect a chat with the doc/physio made it clear that while spirit may be willing, the body may not make another season.
Great player for the Albion...good luck! Suspect a chat with the doc/physio made it clear that while spirit may be willing, the body may not make another season. bIsleybill
  • Score: 3

11:03am Fri 23 May 14

DazLow says...

There are a lot of holes to fill now in the squad. I suspect, after the weekend, we'll have some news on the new manager. Following that some players may start to come into the squad.

We're fairly close to needing a complete rebuild of the team from what was left behind by Gus. I'm not panicking, but I am getting concerned.
There are a lot of holes to fill now in the squad. I suspect, after the weekend, we'll have some news on the new manager. Following that some players may start to come into the squad. We're fairly close to needing a complete rebuild of the team from what was left behind by Gus. I'm not panicking, but I am getting concerned. DazLow
  • Score: 9

11:04am Fri 23 May 14

albionfan33 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Where do we stand now with players gone?

Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs?

If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players.

Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number
its a big number but its well needed we had an aged squad what needed clearing out now its done we can start to build a new fresh squad with pace and power to challenge once again UTA
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Where do we stand now with players gone? Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs? If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players. Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number[/p][/quote]its a big number but its well needed we had an aged squad what needed clearing out now its done we can start to build a new fresh squad with pace and power to challenge once again UTA albionfan33
  • Score: 3

11:11am Fri 23 May 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

How about this for a left field appointment .
Paul Scholes is in limbo at the moment and has many contacts he could draw on. Just a thought. UTA
How about this for a left field appointment . Paul Scholes is in limbo at the moment and has many contacts he could draw on. Just a thought. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: -14

11:26am Fri 23 May 14

pjwilk says...

I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.
I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year. pjwilk
  • Score: -9

11:45am Fri 23 May 14

Yogi says...

We can't compete with the wages in this case but will be surprised if he plays as many games as this season!!!

Looking forward to new manager and players coming in, new blood needed and we may get Ward back too.
We can't compete with the wages in this case but will be surprised if he plays as many games as this season!!! Looking forward to new manager and players coming in, new blood needed and we may get Ward back too. Yogi
  • Score: 1

11:47am Fri 23 May 14

Gee Jay says...

Thanks for the last 18 months Matt. As others have said on here, another chance in the Premiership, on Premiership money, too good to miss at that end of your playing career.
I can see it being another Wayne Bridge at Reading situation though, and at least Leicester will be paying the wages.
Thanks for the last 18 months Matt. As others have said on here, another chance in the Premiership, on Premiership money, too good to miss at that end of your playing career. I can see it being another Wayne Bridge at Reading situation though, and at least Leicester will be paying the wages. Gee Jay
  • Score: 1

11:50am Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Although on the face of it this disappoints me, we're losing a 35 year-old Matt Upson. If we were losing a 28 year-old version it would be devastating.

He has been excellent for us, but as MU says, Dunk is the future. Quicker and with far better passing ability, all he needs is to learn how to read the game better, and that can only come with age and experience.

One last hurrah... who can blame the guy? Good luck to him.
Although on the face of it this disappoints me, we're losing a 35 year-old Matt Upson. If we were losing a 28 year-old version it would be devastating. He has been excellent for us, but as MU says, Dunk is the future. Quicker and with far better passing ability, all he needs is to learn how to read the game better, and that can only come with age and experience. One last hurrah... who can blame the guy? Good luck to him. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

11:51am Fri 23 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

DazLow says...

There are a lot of holes to fill now in the squad. I suspect, after the weekend, we'll have some news on the new manager. Following that some players may start to come into the squad.

We're fairly close to needing a complete rebuild of the team from what was left behind by Gus. I'm not panicking, but I am getting concerned.

You should be celebrating. Last years squad was nowhere near good enough to win promotion. We need to rebuild totally with young keen players who nearer the start of their career than the end.
DazLow says... There are a lot of holes to fill now in the squad. I suspect, after the weekend, we'll have some news on the new manager. Following that some players may start to come into the squad. We're fairly close to needing a complete rebuild of the team from what was left behind by Gus. I'm not panicking, but I am getting concerned. You should be celebrating. Last years squad was nowhere near good enough to win promotion. We need to rebuild totally with young keen players who nearer the start of their career than the end. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 2

12:56pm Fri 23 May 14

tinker111 says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored.



Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".
proves total clear that club are about money and have little interest in playing side unless it is free or cheep OH POOR SUCKERS HOW RENEWED S/T YOU HAVE BEEN SHAFFTED PS can guess word and agree
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored. Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".[/p][/quote]proves total clear that club are about money and have little interest in playing side unless it is free or cheep OH POOR SUCKERS HOW RENEWED S/T YOU HAVE BEEN SHAFFTED PS can guess word and agree tinker111
  • Score: -10

1:03pm Fri 23 May 14

Brighton Bill says...

No bloody loyalty whatsoever, he was probably negotiating his new contract with Leicester when we were playing Derby . F*ck the lot of em.
No bloody loyalty whatsoever, he was probably negotiating his new contract with Leicester when we were playing Derby . F*ck the lot of em. Brighton Bill
  • Score: -15

1:04pm Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

http://mobile.seagul
ls.co.uk/news/articl
e/upsons-farewell-me
ssage-1570593.aspx.

What a fantastic professional and gentleman Mr Upson is.

If you can't use the link then his farewell letter is on the seagulls web page
http://mobile.seagul ls.co.uk/news/articl e/upsons-farewell-me ssage-1570593.aspx. What a fantastic professional and gentleman Mr Upson is. If you can't use the link then his farewell letter is on the seagulls web page SMF20
  • Score: 3

1:05pm Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

http://mobile.seagul
ls.co.uk/news/articl
e/upsons-farewell-me
ssage-1570593.aspx.

What a fantastic professional and gentleman Mr Upson is.

If you can't use the link then his farewell letter is on the seagulls web page
http://mobile.seagul ls.co.uk/news/articl e/upsons-farewell-me ssage-1570593.aspx. What a fantastic professional and gentleman Mr Upson is. If you can't use the link then his farewell letter is on the seagulls web page SMF20
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 23 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

Is this really as bad as some people think, Upson has a chance at a year in the prem, once done he will probably hang up his boots. We on the other hand need to rebuild our defense unit, and not just for a year but for the coming seasons too, but didn't we have to do that anyway?
We have all been saying how we need some pace at the back, we have none on the right side but if we can get Ward back and sign a couple of pacey younger guys it has to be a good thing. Greer, Calde and Bruno will probably be on the let go list come the end of next season so now is the time to find their understudies, or perhaps their replacements, those three could be back up players this year.

I hope Upson has a great season and revels in the fact that he is back at the top, he deserves it.
Is this really as bad as some people think, Upson has a chance at a year in the prem, once done he will probably hang up his boots. We on the other hand need to rebuild our defense unit, and not just for a year but for the coming seasons too, but didn't we have to do that anyway? We have all been saying how we need some pace at the back, we have none on the right side but if we can get Ward back and sign a couple of pacey younger guys it has to be a good thing. Greer, Calde and Bruno will probably be on the let go list come the end of next season so now is the time to find their understudies, or perhaps their replacements, those three could be back up players this year. I hope Upson has a great season and revels in the fact that he is back at the top, he deserves it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 14

1:17pm Fri 23 May 14

fratsomrover says...

Not the end of the world. He's been great for us and his experience has aided many of the younger players, but I can understand him wanting one last shot in the PL, although to be quite honest, at 35-36 he will be in danger of being run ragged I fear.
A good Championship defender, but not so sure he'll be so valuable in the PL.
We need to bring on good young defenders. They are our future and I for one would not be dismayed to see Dunk get more games. He has undoubted potential and will only improve with experience and I give credit to Matt Upson for endorsing Dunk's credentials. I'm sure we'll sign another experienced centre half anyway, but imagine it wont be until a new manager is in place. You never know we might appoint Sherwood and he might bring Dawson with him ?
I expect a busy and interesting time over the next two weeks. We've lost a lot of players and need to replace them, so exciting times ahead.
Good to see JFC and March doing so well yesterday for England U20's.
They are both valuable assets along with Rohan Ince and I can only see a rosy future all the time we keep hold of them.
I can cope with losing Upson and Kuszczak, but losing March or Ince would be far more detrimental to our future.
Lets get a good manager appointed soon so the rebuilding can start.
I also hope Derby stuff QPR. They deserve a shot in the PL far more than QPR and their overspending manager.
Not the end of the world. He's been great for us and his experience has aided many of the younger players, but I can understand him wanting one last shot in the PL, although to be quite honest, at 35-36 he will be in danger of being run ragged I fear. A good Championship defender, but not so sure he'll be so valuable in the PL. We need to bring on good young defenders. They are our future and I for one would not be dismayed to see Dunk get more games. He has undoubted potential and will only improve with experience and I give credit to Matt Upson for endorsing Dunk's credentials. I'm sure we'll sign another experienced centre half anyway, but imagine it wont be until a new manager is in place. You never know we might appoint Sherwood and he might bring Dawson with him ? I expect a busy and interesting time over the next two weeks. We've lost a lot of players and need to replace them, so exciting times ahead. Good to see JFC and March doing so well yesterday for England U20's. They are both valuable assets along with Rohan Ince and I can only see a rosy future all the time we keep hold of them. I can cope with losing Upson and Kuszczak, but losing March or Ince would be far more detrimental to our future. Lets get a good manager appointed soon so the rebuilding can start. I also hope Derby stuff QPR. They deserve a shot in the PL far more than QPR and their overspending manager. fratsomrover
  • Score: 10

1:28pm Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

tinker111 wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored.



Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".
proves total clear that club are about money and have little interest in playing side unless it is free or cheep OH POOR SUCKERS HOW RENEWED S/T YOU HAVE BEEN SHAFFTED PS can guess word and agree
Sorry, tinker111 but as most have suggested on here, including me, sometimes it's not about money and you have to accept it for what it is.
Matt has been given a chance to play in the PL again and I think it's fairly obvious that anyone (including you) who wants to use his departure as a stick to beat the club with is doing so for the sake of it.
This has nothing to do with the club's management and for me, it's one occasion where I think any suggestion to the contrary is downright disrespectful.
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored. Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".[/p][/quote]proves total clear that club are about money and have little interest in playing side unless it is free or cheep OH POOR SUCKERS HOW RENEWED S/T YOU HAVE BEEN SHAFFTED PS can guess word and agree[/p][/quote]Sorry, tinker111 but as most have suggested on here, including me, sometimes it's not about money and you have to accept it for what it is. Matt has been given a chance to play in the PL again and I think it's fairly obvious that anyone (including you) who wants to use his departure as a stick to beat the club with is doing so for the sake of it. This has nothing to do with the club's management and for me, it's one occasion where I think any suggestion to the contrary is downright disrespectful. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

1:48pm Fri 23 May 14

ballantrrae says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored.



Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".
I second your post Captain Haddock. .Absolutely gutted. I don't think that it helps us to hold on to the likes of Upson when we haven't got a Manager.
I see that Norwich have appointed Adams so that is one less job option for some of the potential candidates to be our new Manager. On the other hand the Celtic post has just become available although I would think that Moyes might be the favourite for that position.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored. Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".[/p][/quote]I second your post Captain Haddock. .Absolutely gutted. I don't think that it helps us to hold on to the likes of Upson when we haven't got a Manager. I see that Norwich have appointed Adams so that is one less job option for some of the potential candidates to be our new Manager. On the other hand the Celtic post has just become available although I would think that Moyes might be the favourite for that position. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

1:48pm Fri 23 May 14

ballantrrae says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored.



Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".
I second your post Captain Haddock. .Absolutely gutted. I don't think that it helps us to hold on to the likes of Upson when we haven't got a Manager.
I see that Norwich have appointed Adams so that is one less job option for some of the potential candidates to be our new Manager. On the other hand the Celtic post has just become available although I would think that Moyes might be the favourite for that position.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: There is only one word to describe that but I don't want to be censored. Leicester, the asking fee for Leo has just gone up to £12m: extra expense needed for us to get a CB + "inconvenience fee".[/p][/quote]I second your post Captain Haddock. .Absolutely gutted. I don't think that it helps us to hold on to the likes of Upson when we haven't got a Manager. I see that Norwich have appointed Adams so that is one less job option for some of the potential candidates to be our new Manager. On the other hand the Celtic post has just become available although I would think that Moyes might be the favourite for that position. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

2:06pm Fri 23 May 14

thetungsten says...

a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!!
a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!! thetungsten
  • Score: 6

2:30pm Fri 23 May 14

lighteninglee says...

how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.
how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left. lighteninglee
  • Score: 2

2:33pm Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

thetungsten wrote:
a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!!
Having said earlier it's disrespectful to blame the management for Upson's departure, (and it is) I do think their problem now is that it could be the thin end of the wedge as far as those still contracted are concerned. With the coach walking out and so many players either released or returned to their parent clubs, there's beginning to feel like a 'rip it up and start again' feeling to early summer and you wouldn't blame a few for feeling they don't like where it's heading?
No longer does it feel like a squad that's experiencing natural, ongoing development
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!![/p][/quote]Having said earlier it's disrespectful to blame the management for Upson's departure, (and it is) I do think their problem now is that it could be the thin end of the wedge as far as those still contracted are concerned. With the coach walking out and so many players either released or returned to their parent clubs, there's beginning to feel like a 'rip it up and start again' feeling to early summer and you wouldn't blame a few for feeling they don't like where it's heading? No longer does it feel like a squad that's experiencing natural, ongoing development Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

2:51pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

lighteninglee wrote:
how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.
Yeah, if only there was some way of getting more players in over the next three months...
[quote][p][bold]lighteninglee[/bold] wrote: how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.[/p][/quote]Yeah, if only there was some way of getting more players in over the next three months... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

3:04pm Fri 23 May 14

Clean Sheet says...

A huge thank you for the last 18 months Matty, you have been fantastic for the Albion. Good luck at Leicester.
Lets look forward to the new squad, and pressing onwards and upwards in the Champ. I dont know why so many on here think that TB is a mug. He is a great Chairman, and I'm sure saw this coming. We now need the next MU, and others for the future, not the past.
UTA
A huge thank you for the last 18 months Matty, you have been fantastic for the Albion. Good luck at Leicester. Lets look forward to the new squad, and pressing onwards and upwards in the Champ. I dont know why so many on here think that TB is a mug. He is a great Chairman, and I'm sure saw this coming. We now need the next MU, and others for the future, not the past. UTA Clean Sheet
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Fri 23 May 14

Nivag1 says...

Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty....
Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty.... Nivag1
  • Score: 4

3:08pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Nivag1 wrote:
Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty....
Using your analogy we'll be fine as we've already let go some of the previous furniture, most of which was quite costly to maintain. DFS and Ikea, here we come!
[quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty....[/p][/quote]Using your analogy we'll be fine as we've already let go some of the previous furniture, most of which was quite costly to maintain. DFS and Ikea, here we come! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -5

3:15pm Fri 23 May 14

Nivag1 says...

Valid point. We've reached that point in the programme where work has stalled and we've had to go cap in hand to the mortgage company, only to be turned down...
Valid point. We've reached that point in the programme where work has stalled and we've had to go cap in hand to the mortgage company, only to be turned down... Nivag1
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Fri 23 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

lighteninglee wrote:
how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.
Are you serious, 'how can we push for playoffs or promotion,' well you do that by bringing in new players to replace those that have gone. The way you pose your question seems to suggest that we will not sign anyone, just cobble a team together from those we currently have.
[quote][p][bold]lighteninglee[/bold] wrote: how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.[/p][/quote]Are you serious, 'how can we push for playoffs or promotion,' well you do that by bringing in new players to replace those that have gone. The way you pose your question seems to suggest that we will not sign anyone, just cobble a team together from those we currently have. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Fri 23 May 14

SonnyJim55 says...

Nivag1 wrote:
Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty....
that is true but when TB comes to sell the buyer will be looking at the 'house' rather than the 'furniture'. The only problem is the furniture may get us into a different league to the one everyone on here wants!
[quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: Like I've said before, it's like an episode of Grand Designs where they've built an amazing house but can't afford to furnish it. Next season, I predict, isn't going to be pretty....[/p][/quote]that is true but when TB comes to sell the buyer will be looking at the 'house' rather than the 'furniture'. The only problem is the furniture may get us into a different league to the one everyone on here wants! SonnyJim55
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Nivag1 wrote:
Valid point. We've reached that point in the programme where work has stalled and we've had to go cap in hand to the mortgage company, only to be turned down...
No, we've got the money from the sale of what we previously had. Are you willing to bet that the squad will not be strengthened between now and the beginning of next season?
[quote][p][bold]Nivag1[/bold] wrote: Valid point. We've reached that point in the programme where work has stalled and we've had to go cap in hand to the mortgage company, only to be turned down...[/p][/quote]No, we've got the money from the sale of what we previously had. Are you willing to bet that the squad will not be strengthened between now and the beginning of next season? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -4

3:24pm Fri 23 May 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

SMF20 wrote:
I personally wish Matt all the very best. He has been exceptional for us these past 2 seasons and the complete professional.
We will miss him terribly for sure but if any aging footballer deserves one last swan song, it's Matt.

It does leave me questioning our policies once again though... I get that we like to review where we stand at season end before looking at contracts, to some degree at least, but surely this way of doing things can't be the only way.
We have now lost both Tom and Matt to this way of working and you could argue Murray too.
I understand it's a risk sorting a contract out for someone who might not be good enough should we make a step up.
What has been proven this close season though is that it is also a risk to leave it until the last few weeks of a contract.

We have lost out here and thumbs down or not, it's own own fault.
You are absolutely right in my opinion. I think it's really crazy for a number of reasons.

If we signed up the ones we really like well before their contract expires, or at least begin negotiating, two things happen.

1) The player gets a sense of security as he knows the club value his services.
2) You create another asset as his value goes UP in the market when he signs.

The latter also means that in the event the club gets promoted, even if he doesn't quite cut the mustard in The PL, it wouldn't be difficult to find a buyer in the Championship and maybe even at another PL club so we have maximized our asset - and even more importantly, we maintain respect as a club with the player because we showed care and consideration for his situation and not simply the club's.

So hope that someone has the strength of character to re consider our present policies otherwise I can see the possibility of our club becoming a 'pariah', not only for managers but good players as well.

Particularly saddened by Matt Upson's release because, apart from his obvious experience and talent - he is also clearly an exceptionally decent and highly intelligent, articulate guy.

Personally I think he's obvious management material, strong without being 'bolshy'. I would even have thought a possibility could have been to consider him for a player/coach or player/manager - depending on his coaching badge situation.

I do understand that all players would like to experience the PL especially at his stage of life; but if you put those kind of options to him it would definitely make him consider.

What I do know is that building a decent full club (not just team) is not difficult once you get in decent people and Matt was one such person.

Wish him all the very best - he earned his keep each and every game. Have great success at Leicester and thanks for all you've been!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I personally wish Matt all the very best. He has been exceptional for us these past 2 seasons and the complete professional. We will miss him terribly for sure but if any aging footballer deserves one last swan song, it's Matt. It does leave me questioning our policies once again though... I get that we like to review where we stand at season end before looking at contracts, to some degree at least, but surely this way of doing things can't be the only way. We have now lost both Tom and Matt to this way of working and you could argue Murray too. I understand it's a risk sorting a contract out for someone who might not be good enough should we make a step up. What has been proven this close season though is that it is also a risk to leave it until the last few weeks of a contract. We have lost out here and thumbs down or not, it's own own fault.[/p][/quote]You are absolutely right in my opinion. I think it's really crazy for a number of reasons. If we signed up the ones we really like well before their contract expires, or at least begin negotiating, two things happen. 1) The player gets a sense of security as he knows the club value his services. 2) You create another asset as his value goes UP in the market when he signs. The latter also means that in the event the club gets promoted, even if he doesn't quite cut the mustard in The PL, it wouldn't be difficult to find a buyer in the Championship and maybe even at another PL club so we have maximized our asset - and even more importantly, we maintain respect as a club with the player because we showed care and consideration for his situation and not simply the club's. So hope that someone has the strength of character to re consider our present policies otherwise I can see the possibility of our club becoming a 'pariah', not only for managers but good players as well. Particularly saddened by Matt Upson's release because, apart from his obvious experience and talent - he is also clearly an exceptionally decent and highly intelligent, articulate guy. Personally I think he's obvious management material, strong without being 'bolshy'. I would even have thought a possibility could have been to consider him for a player/coach or player/manager - depending on his coaching badge situation. I do understand that all players would like to experience the PL especially at his stage of life; but if you put those kind of options to him it would definitely make him consider. What I do know is that building a decent full club (not just team) is not difficult once you get in decent people and Matt was one such person. Wish him all the very best - he earned his keep each and every game. Have great success at Leicester and thanks for all you've been! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 8

3:26pm Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

3:34pm Fri 23 May 14

lighteninglee says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
lighteninglee wrote:
how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.
Are you serious, 'how can we push for playoffs or promotion,' well you do that by bringing in new players to replace those that have gone. The way you pose your question seems to suggest that we will not sign anyone, just cobble a team together from those we currently have.
what Im saying is you look at the players we have left after the loanies have gone back and the players we released. we don't have a strong starting 11. plus how many prem clubs field teams with 3 plus loan players.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lighteninglee[/bold] wrote: how many more players are we going to lose our shopping list is getting bigger and bigger we can't build a team with loanies because you never have your own team. we have a great stadium and new training complex but we are missing one important thing a top class squad. how can we push for the play offs or promotion again with the players we have left.[/p][/quote]Are you serious, 'how can we push for playoffs or promotion,' well you do that by bringing in new players to replace those that have gone. The way you pose your question seems to suggest that we will not sign anyone, just cobble a team together from those we currently have.[/p][/quote]what Im saying is you look at the players we have left after the loanies have gone back and the players we released. we don't have a strong starting 11. plus how many prem clubs field teams with 3 plus loan players. lighteninglee
  • Score: 0

3:39pm Fri 23 May 14

thetungsten says...

For me- sadly so, we have now lost one too many 1st team/fringe players (with all probability that more will likely depart (LU, WB)) with TK, MU, AA, AO, LB, SW, KA, JL, WH leaving for good or returning to their parent clubs and with an injury list (KA, WB, AC, CMS) that always seems to be 4-6 long, not withstanding an aging team in parts (GG, CA)- I believe that that the club have lost their way some what and it is now a case of little too late.

in all seriousness we need 7-10 decent players to become contenders for promotion- with more and more clubs getting parachute payments each year that passes without getting promotion the more difficult it becomes.

I believe that we have missed our boat, and who ever the incoming manager is- they are going to have to be 'the Magical one' to get us promoted.

Tony sadly does not have the funds to get us what we want to get to. the options available are 1. we settle for mid table mediocrity 2. They take a risk and splash some serious cash or 3. sell the club to deeper pockets.

I suspect there is really only one option and that No 1.
For me- sadly so, we have now lost one too many 1st team/fringe players (with all probability that more will likely depart (LU, WB)) with TK, MU, AA, AO, LB, SW, KA, JL, WH leaving for good or returning to their parent clubs and with an injury list (KA, WB, AC, CMS) that always seems to be 4-6 long, not withstanding an aging team in parts (GG, CA)- I believe that that the club have lost their way some what and it is now a case of little too late. in all seriousness we need 7-10 decent players to become contenders for promotion- with more and more clubs getting parachute payments each year that passes without getting promotion the more difficult it becomes. I believe that we have missed our boat, and who ever the incoming manager is- they are going to have to be 'the Magical one' to get us promoted. Tony sadly does not have the funds to get us what we want to get to. the options available are 1. we settle for mid table mediocrity 2. They take a risk and splash some serious cash or 3. sell the club to deeper pockets. I suspect there is really only one option and that No 1. thetungsten
  • Score: 1

3:58pm Fri 23 May 14

Far gull says...

Matt thanks for everything. But i fear your body like Wayne was not up to another full season. You gone for the cash which none of us could blame you. Slightly sad you could not have been here to finish your career and coach Dunk and alike as they need it !!
Just a thought has anyone thought about this being a good time for a new manager to come in ?? Players that want to play for him and us ?
;-)
Can see leo and Will departing now too. A new 3 year plan but who knows.
Also think we might need another investor for building this new team.
Matt thanks for everything. But i fear your body like Wayne was not up to another full season. You gone for the cash which none of us could blame you. Slightly sad you could not have been here to finish your career and coach Dunk and alike as they need it !! Just a thought has anyone thought about this being a good time for a new manager to come in ?? Players that want to play for him and us ? ;-) Can see leo and Will departing now too. A new 3 year plan but who knows. Also think we might need another investor for building this new team. Far gull
  • Score: 8

3:59pm Fri 23 May 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Oscar Garcia says thank you fans.
Upson says thank you fans.
B.B.B say thank to at least 20.000 fans for renewing their season ticket.

The Talking Heads song ROAD TO NOWHERE says it all.
Oscar Garcia says thank you fans. Upson says thank you fans. B.B.B say thank to at least 20.000 fans for renewing their season ticket. The Talking Heads song ROAD TO NOWHERE says it all. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 7

4:21pm Fri 23 May 14

bha3072011 says...

If Tony Bloom doesn't like the January transfer window and refuses to play much part in it, why can't we use that time to hold contract talks?
If Tony Bloom doesn't like the January transfer window and refuses to play much part in it, why can't we use that time to hold contract talks? bha3072011
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Fri 23 May 14

graham w says...

Im on holiday they better get it all sorted before I get back...........
Im on holiday they better get it all sorted before I get back........... graham w
  • Score: -1

4:44pm Fri 23 May 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

5:12pm Fri 23 May 14

chuckupem says...

I noticed on the BBC football website Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is looking for job in the UK..that would be different
I noticed on the BBC football website Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is looking for job in the UK..that would be different chuckupem
  • Score: -4

5:17pm Fri 23 May 14

Brightony says...

SMF20 wrote:
Where do we stand now with players gone?

Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs?

If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players.

Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number
And unlucky 13, a manager?!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Where do we stand now with players gone? Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs? If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players. Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number[/p][/quote]And unlucky 13, a manager?! Brightony
  • Score: 0

5:23pm Fri 23 May 14

Brightony says...

You know what - Upson leaving has stirred up a bit of an ants nest amongst us fans and it's excruciating not knowing what's going on behind the scenes with manager and player recruitment etc but you've got to look at what this management team i.e TB et al have achieved with this club over the past six years. We really should have faith that they know what they're doing and that we're still heading in an upward direction - we're in really good hands I think!
You know what - Upson leaving has stirred up a bit of an ants nest amongst us fans and it's excruciating not knowing what's going on behind the scenes with manager and player recruitment etc but you've got to look at what this management team i.e TB et al have achieved with this club over the past six years. We really should have faith that they know what they're doing and that we're still heading in an upward direction - we're in really good hands I think! Brightony
  • Score: 1

5:34pm Fri 23 May 14

Conelli98 says...

Good luck Matty!
Good luck Matty! Conelli98
  • Score: 3

5:38pm Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

If the 12 players + 1 manager were on an average salary of 10k a week and thus 130k a week combined then perhaps B&B think that if they can stall things for a few weeks then they might be able to save another half a million pounds.....

I jest of course... Be good to see a Manager appointed soon though. Would certainly calm my nerves a little.

Only 1 request from me. Please don't get Andrews back
If the 12 players + 1 manager were on an average salary of 10k a week and thus 130k a week combined then perhaps B&B think that if they can stall things for a few weeks then they might be able to save another half a million pounds..... I jest of course... Be good to see a Manager appointed soon though. Would certainly calm my nerves a little. Only 1 request from me. Please don't get Andrews back SMF20
  • Score: 2

5:42pm Fri 23 May 14

Ringmer Rich says...

Have we got any decent players left?
Have we got any decent players left? Ringmer Rich
  • Score: 1

5:45pm Fri 23 May 14

SMF20 says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Well its got to be said even if some don't like it.Looks like Freeloader was 100% correct yet again.
Hi Freeloader.
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: Well its got to be said even if some don't like it.Looks like Freeloader was 100% correct yet again.[/p][/quote]Hi Freeloader. SMF20
  • Score: 8

5:55pm Fri 23 May 14

hannover seagull says...

Matt was a great player for us and who can blame him to have his swansong in the Premiership although at 35 he will struggle
It all sounds like bad news but perhaps a positive thought on this is that it is becoming more and more likely that the new manager will have the chance to build a side thus, making the position more interesting for all candidates.

I personally think youth at the back is the key infront of a safe keeper
I sincerely hope that the men in black have a strategy for all this as we are now sadly depleted in all areas especially as we took the money for Liam and Ash and did not replace
If Leo gets sold then the real questions have to be asked as even true fans have their limits
Lets hope for some encouraging news soon
UTA..
Matt was a great player for us and who can blame him to have his swansong in the Premiership although at 35 he will struggle It all sounds like bad news but perhaps a positive thought on this is that it is becoming more and more likely that the new manager will have the chance to build a side thus, making the position more interesting for all candidates. I personally think youth at the back is the key infront of a safe keeper I sincerely hope that the men in black have a strategy for all this as we are now sadly depleted in all areas especially as we took the money for Liam and Ash and did not replace If Leo gets sold then the real questions have to be asked as even true fans have their limits Lets hope for some encouraging news soon UTA.. hannover seagull
  • Score: 2

6:05pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
[quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

6:13pm Fri 23 May 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 5

6:23pm Fri 23 May 14

To baldly go says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!!
Having said earlier it's disrespectful to blame the management for Upson's departure, (and it is) I do think their problem now is that it could be the thin end of the wedge as far as those still contracted are concerned. With the coach walking out and so many players either released or returned to their parent clubs, there's beginning to feel like a 'rip it up and start again' feeling to early summer and you wouldn't blame a few for feeling they don't like where it's heading?
No longer does it feel like a squad that's experiencing natural, ongoing development
Agree, get off before the ship sinks is what will happen imo.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: a Southampton youth scout (family friend) seems to think that Buckley could be next in line to leave us next- Burnley, QPR and Norwich are apparently interested- Buckley last week handed in a transfer request which the Board rejected !!![/p][/quote]Having said earlier it's disrespectful to blame the management for Upson's departure, (and it is) I do think their problem now is that it could be the thin end of the wedge as far as those still contracted are concerned. With the coach walking out and so many players either released or returned to their parent clubs, there's beginning to feel like a 'rip it up and start again' feeling to early summer and you wouldn't blame a few for feeling they don't like where it's heading? No longer does it feel like a squad that's experiencing natural, ongoing development[/p][/quote]Agree, get off before the ship sinks is what will happen imo. To baldly go
  • Score: 0

6:37pm Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year!
He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance!
We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract?
That is clearly not working particularly well is it?
Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way!
This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion.
I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going!
Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...[/p][/quote]Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year! He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance! We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract? That is clearly not working particularly well is it? Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way! This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion. I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going! Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far! mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

6:44pm Fri 23 May 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
Where do we stand now with players gone?

Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs?

If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players.

Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number
SMF20 your numbers look about right. It is almost easier to count what we have got - 1 GK 2RB 1LB, 2 CBs, 5 Midfielders (6 if you include Agustein) 3 wingers and 2 strikers. Yes we could field a team but the bench would be short two players.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Where do we stand now with players gone? Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs? If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players. Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number[/p][/quote]SMF20 your numbers look about right. It is almost easier to count what we have got - 1 GK 2RB 1LB, 2 CBs, 5 Midfielders (6 if you include Agustein) 3 wingers and 2 strikers. Yes we could field a team but the bench would be short two players. ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

6:47pm Fri 23 May 14

Mr chock says...

do you know why the Argus blocked the comment son the rape of sussex girls by ...Christopher Kayla-Joseph, 26, of Elphick Road, Newhaven, Mohammed Kamali, 45, of Harper Road, Newhaven, Khosrow Sobhanieh, 55, of North Lane, Guestling, near Hastings, Stephen Daramola, 47, of Park Lane, Eastbourne, Khalid Del-Rosario, 44, of Upperton Road, Eastbourne and Guiseppe Carella, 18,
http://www.theargus.

co.uk/news/11231836.

Six_men_in_court_for

_teen_prostitution_c

ase/?ref=mr
this is the story they have remove the comments area on WHY
Six men in court for teen prostitution case
do you know why the Argus blocked the comment son the rape of sussex girls by ...Christopher Kayla-Joseph, 26, of Elphick Road, Newhaven, Mohammed Kamali, 45, of Harper Road, Newhaven, Khosrow Sobhanieh, 55, of North Lane, Guestling, near Hastings, Stephen Daramola, 47, of Park Lane, Eastbourne, Khalid Del-Rosario, 44, of Upperton Road, Eastbourne and Guiseppe Carella, 18, http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11231836. Six_men_in_court_for _teen_prostitution_c ase/?ref=mr this is the story they have remove the comments area on WHY Six men in court for teen prostitution case Mr chock
  • Score: -3

6:48pm Fri 23 May 14

Far gull says...

SMF20 wrote:
If the 12 players + 1 manager were on an average salary of 10k a week and thus 130k a week combined then perhaps B&B think that if they can stall things for a few weeks then they might be able to save another half a million pounds..... I jest of course... Be good to see a Manager appointed soon though. Would certainly calm my nerves a little. Only 1 request from me. Please don't get Andrews back
Thinkmy seasons tickets will be up for grabs if andrews comes back
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: If the 12 players + 1 manager were on an average salary of 10k a week and thus 130k a week combined then perhaps B&B think that if they can stall things for a few weeks then they might be able to save another half a million pounds..... I jest of course... Be good to see a Manager appointed soon though. Would certainly calm my nerves a little. Only 1 request from me. Please don't get Andrews back[/p][/quote]Thinkmy seasons tickets will be up for grabs if andrews comes back Far gull
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Fri 23 May 14

namgo49 says...

There is an inherent risk in leaving player negotiations until season end and such is once again proving the case. Like most of us we crave security and continuity most of the time and footballers can be no exception. It may well be that MU would have been happy to stay if the situation regarding management was not up in the air, but all such things must play on a player’s mind. He was not on my fantasy retained list so not really that concerned unless of course there was a presumption he would re-sign and no thought has been given to a possible replacement.

WB has been mentioned here. I have enormous admiration for his playing ability but that is the difficulty, he does not play often enough. A wretched season for him has just drawn to a close, would it be the same next year? If we get £2mill. then so well and good.

The concern is the lack of investment in players. Even if we got £5/6 mill for LU which is about what realistically you would expect, then what would be done with the money and who would be available to come in and who would want to given we have no manager.

Hopefully there is a strong game plan but at present there is no sign of it.
There is an inherent risk in leaving player negotiations until season end and such is once again proving the case. Like most of us we crave security and continuity most of the time and footballers can be no exception. It may well be that MU would have been happy to stay if the situation regarding management was not up in the air, but all such things must play on a player’s mind. He was not on my fantasy retained list so not really that concerned unless of course there was a presumption he would re-sign and no thought has been given to a possible replacement. WB has been mentioned here. I have enormous admiration for his playing ability but that is the difficulty, he does not play often enough. A wretched season for him has just drawn to a close, would it be the same next year? If we get £2mill. then so well and good. The concern is the lack of investment in players. Even if we got £5/6 mill for LU which is about what realistically you would expect, then what would be done with the money and who would be available to come in and who would want to given we have no manager. Hopefully there is a strong game plan but at present there is no sign of it. namgo49
  • Score: -1

7:20pm Fri 23 May 14

Ringmer Rich says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk? Ringmer Rich
  • Score: -1

7:25pm Fri 23 May 14

namgo49 says...

Unrelated, but I see OG touted for Celtic now!!
Unrelated, but I see OG touted for Celtic now!! namgo49
  • Score: 1

7:29pm Fri 23 May 14

namgo49 says...

namgo49 wrote:
Unrelated, but I see OG touted for Celtic now!!
Even better Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink touted for us, chances are it wouldn't be dull but then I would rather have Darren Ferguson and guarantee we won or lost 5-4 every week.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: Unrelated, but I see OG touted for Celtic now!![/p][/quote]Even better Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink touted for us, chances are it wouldn't be dull but then I would rather have Darren Ferguson and guarantee we won or lost 5-4 every week. namgo49
  • Score: -3

7:29pm Fri 23 May 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Thomas,now Upson have gone the financial situation is worse than we thought,we await a number of free transfers to replace them but convinced we can achieve a top half of the table position next season.
Thomas,now Upson have gone the financial situation is worse than we thought,we await a number of free transfers to replace them but convinced we can achieve a top half of the table position next season. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: -1

7:40pm Fri 23 May 14

hubby says...

SMF20 wrote:
Where do we stand now with players gone?

Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs?

If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players.

Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number
As ever a lack of ambition hangs over BHA like a black cloud.
No wonder Gus and Oscar thought the job wasn't worth doing.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Where do we stand now with players gone? Is it Tom, Orlandi, David, Rodriguez, Brez and Hoskins released, Upson signed elsewhere and Ward, Lingard, Andrews returned to parent clubs? If so we are currently 9 players down after taking into consideration Toko signing.... That 9 doesn't include the not replaced departures of Bridcutt, Barnes or El abd either and so In my mind I'm think we need a massive 12 new players. Have I got this wrong somewhere. Seems a big number[/p][/quote]As ever a lack of ambition hangs over BHA like a black cloud. No wonder Gus and Oscar thought the job wasn't worth doing. hubby
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Fri 23 May 14

gordongull says...

There was a 5 year plan a few years ago, but that is all history since the arrival of FFP. There will be no attempt to hold onto any of our players with financial inducements, - everyone is free to go if the price is right. Contract negotiations will go down to the wire, and the Suits will be gambling on there being a vast surplus of players available at knock-down prices and wages this summer.
Early indications are that there is an increase in the number of players being released by clubs, but it is too soon to assess how far player costs will be driven down by financial pressures within the Championship. The better players are likely to go to parachute clubs, who can not only afford to pay them more, but on paper, at least, can offer them a better chance of one day playing in the Premier League.
I think instead of a plan, we are now making it up as we go along, hoping that a few quality players with the right injury history become available at a cost which the Club can afford. They will be needed to complement the Journeymen, crocks, and young-but-with-poten
tial players we are going to be left with after Ulloa gets his move to the Premier League.
I predict that no more players will be recruited until it is known how the transfer market is going to pan out. This could work in the new Manager's favour if he is actually given any responsibility in that department. If someone without any experience and a reasonable level of success in the Championship or Premier League is appointed, it would confirm to me that any previous plans, have been put on hold, and those in charge have been reduced to crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.
There was a 5 year plan a few years ago, but that is all history since the arrival of FFP. There will be no attempt to hold onto any of our players with financial inducements, - everyone is free to go if the price is right. Contract negotiations will go down to the wire, and the Suits will be gambling on there being a vast surplus of players available at knock-down prices and wages this summer. Early indications are that there is an increase in the number of players being released by clubs, but it is too soon to assess how far player costs will be driven down by financial pressures within the Championship. The better players are likely to go to parachute clubs, who can not only afford to pay them more, but on paper, at least, can offer them a better chance of one day playing in the Premier League. I think instead of a plan, we are now making it up as we go along, hoping that a few quality players with the right injury history become available at a cost which the Club can afford. They will be needed to complement the Journeymen, crocks, and young-but-with-poten tial players we are going to be left with after Ulloa gets his move to the Premier League. I predict that no more players will be recruited until it is known how the transfer market is going to pan out. This could work in the new Manager's favour if he is actually given any responsibility in that department. If someone without any experience and a reasonable level of success in the Championship or Premier League is appointed, it would confirm to me that any previous plans, have been put on hold, and those in charge have been reduced to crossing their fingers and hoping for the best. gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

8:28pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
Thomas,now Upson have gone the financial situation is worse than we thought,we await a number of free transfers to replace them but convinced we can achieve a top half of the table position next season.
Not so much the financial situation as both players wanting premier league football.
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: Thomas,now Upson have gone the financial situation is worse than we thought,we await a number of free transfers to replace them but convinced we can achieve a top half of the table position next season.[/p][/quote]Not so much the financial situation as both players wanting premier league football. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

8:51pm Fri 23 May 14

Seagull John says...

The article is about Upson leaving on a free transfer. He is 35. He struggled with injury and lack of pace towards the end of the season resulting eventually in the penalty he gave away against Derby and no show for the away leg. Like others here, I suspect he may have finally burned himself out physically and I'm sure he won't last against Premiership quality forwards week in and week out. He could well do a Bridge after his heroic efforts for us last season. There are plenty of decent players coming on the market now, so the priority is a new top quality coach quickly.
The article is about Upson leaving on a free transfer. He is 35. He struggled with injury and lack of pace towards the end of the season resulting eventually in the penalty he gave away against Derby and no show for the away leg. Like others here, I suspect he may have finally burned himself out physically and I'm sure he won't last against Premiership quality forwards week in and week out. He could well do a Bridge after his heroic efforts for us last season. There are plenty of decent players coming on the market now, so the priority is a new top quality coach quickly. Seagull John
  • Score: 3

9:01pm Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
Like Carlton palmer ? Lol
Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Like Carlton palmer ? Lol Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country? mark by the sea
  • Score: -5

9:04pm Fri 23 May 14

rolivan says...

I think that the Club are waiting to see what happens at the impending meeting to sort out FFP . Once that is sorted then TB and Burke will sit down and discuss a forward plan . Interesting to see that QPR posted a loss of over £60m for last year and with new figures due in December they are looking at challenging FFP.
I think that the Club are waiting to see what happens at the impending meeting to sort out FFP . Once that is sorted then TB and Burke will sit down and discuss a forward plan . Interesting to see that QPR posted a loss of over £60m for last year and with new figures due in December they are looking at challenging FFP. rolivan
  • Score: 2

9:04pm Fri 23 May 14

rolivan says...

I think that the Club are waiting to see what happens at the impending meeting to sort out FFP . Once that is sorted then TB and Burke will sit down and discuss a forward plan . Interesting to see that QPR posted a loss of over £60m for last year and with new figures due in December they are looking at challenging FFP.
I think that the Club are waiting to see what happens at the impending meeting to sort out FFP . Once that is sorted then TB and Burke will sit down and discuss a forward plan . Interesting to see that QPR posted a loss of over £60m for last year and with new figures due in December they are looking at challenging FFP. rolivan
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Fri 23 May 14

Mancgulled says...

Good luck to you Matty Upson -- fantastic player -- played like you were smoking a cigar! Fantastic reader of the game - always in the right place at the right time - and good luck to Pearson and Leicester -- shows they have integrity that they stuck with their man until he got them to the promised land -
now Albion -- please please sign Wardy!
Good luck to you Matty Upson -- fantastic player -- played like you were smoking a cigar! Fantastic reader of the game - always in the right place at the right time - and good luck to Pearson and Leicester -- shows they have integrity that they stuck with their man until he got them to the promised land - now Albion -- please please sign Wardy! Mancgulled
  • Score: 2

9:32pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
Like Carlton palmer ? Lol
Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?
Still trolling? I have ignored you and the many posts with which I disagree, why not try ignoring me? You will disagree with me no matter what I say, so why not just assume as much and stop filling up this website with petty point-scoring? (I will not respond again, so you might as well spare your keyboard and everyone else's sanity.)
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Like Carlton palmer ? Lol Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?[/p][/quote]Still trolling? I have ignored you and the many posts with which I disagree, why not try ignoring me? You will disagree with me no matter what I say, so why not just assume as much and stop filling up this website with petty point-scoring? (I will not respond again, so you might as well spare your keyboard and everyone else's sanity.) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 3

9:33pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
Like Carlton palmer ? Lol
Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?
But in answer to your oh-so-predicatable question, I did not claim Solly or JFC were two of the best U21 players in the country, I merely said they were decent, as posed in the original question. Start reading the thread. Goodnight.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Like Carlton palmer ? Lol Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?[/p][/quote]But in answer to your oh-so-predicatable question, I did not claim Solly or JFC were two of the best U21 players in the country, I merely said they were decent, as posed in the original question. Start reading the thread. Goodnight. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

9:39pm Fri 23 May 14

VegasSeagull says...

I find all this doom and gloom somewhat of a surprise. Some are saying that we need too many new players, well if I had my way we would have needed two more as I would have cut deeper into our squad.

When our new manager arrives I think he will have a better hand to play than Oscar did, if for no other reason than the squad will be around half of his own making, his with the help of the suits, and he will have the benefit of a full pre-season training period.
At this time of the year we shouldn't worry about who leaves the club, not even if it were the likes of Ulloa, who would only leave after we have been paid a large sum in cash.

We are going to rebuild, we will have a new manager, by the time we start our season people will be wondering what the fuss was all about. Bloom has not let us down so far, why assume he will this time around, cool heads will prevail.
I find all this doom and gloom somewhat of a surprise. Some are saying that we need too many new players, well if I had my way we would have needed two more as I would have cut deeper into our squad. When our new manager arrives I think he will have a better hand to play than Oscar did, if for no other reason than the squad will be around half of his own making, his with the help of the suits, and he will have the benefit of a full pre-season training period. At this time of the year we shouldn't worry about who leaves the club, not even if it were the likes of Ulloa, who would only leave after we have been paid a large sum in cash. We are going to rebuild, we will have a new manager, by the time we start our season people will be wondering what the fuss was all about. Bloom has not let us down so far, why assume he will this time around, cool heads will prevail. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

9:45pm Fri 23 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I find all this doom and gloom somewhat of a surprise. Some are saying that we need too many new players, well if I had my way we would have needed two more as I would have cut deeper into our squad.

When our new manager arrives I think he will have a better hand to play than Oscar did, if for no other reason than the squad will be around half of his own making, his with the help of the suits, and he will have the benefit of a full pre-season training period.
At this time of the year we shouldn't worry about who leaves the club, not even if it were the likes of Ulloa, who would only leave after we have been paid a large sum in cash.

We are going to rebuild, we will have a new manager, by the time we start our season people will be wondering what the fuss was all about. Bloom has not let us down so far, why assume he will this time around, cool heads will prevail.
I agree, but pessimism is the way of this website. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but it all seems baseless, so why put yourself through the anguish?

As you say, we're going to get a fairly radically overhauled squad, which will hopefully bet better than what we had at the beginning of last season. A new manager, some extra players, a new outlook... it's far too early to start predicting our demise.

Sometimes my glass gets half-empty, but I always make sure I have a couple of full bottles on standby. UTA!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I find all this doom and gloom somewhat of a surprise. Some are saying that we need too many new players, well if I had my way we would have needed two more as I would have cut deeper into our squad. When our new manager arrives I think he will have a better hand to play than Oscar did, if for no other reason than the squad will be around half of his own making, his with the help of the suits, and he will have the benefit of a full pre-season training period. At this time of the year we shouldn't worry about who leaves the club, not even if it were the likes of Ulloa, who would only leave after we have been paid a large sum in cash. We are going to rebuild, we will have a new manager, by the time we start our season people will be wondering what the fuss was all about. Bloom has not let us down so far, why assume he will this time around, cool heads will prevail.[/p][/quote]I agree, but pessimism is the way of this website. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but it all seems baseless, so why put yourself through the anguish? As you say, we're going to get a fairly radically overhauled squad, which will hopefully bet better than what we had at the beginning of last season. A new manager, some extra players, a new outlook... it's far too early to start predicting our demise. Sometimes my glass gets half-empty, but I always make sure I have a couple of full bottles on standby. UTA! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Fri 23 May 14

brightonup says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year!
He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance!
We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract?
That is clearly not working particularly well is it?
Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way!
This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion.
I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going!
Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far!
Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great!

Do it!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...[/p][/quote]Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year! He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance! We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract? That is clearly not working particularly well is it? Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way! This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion. I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going! Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far![/p][/quote]Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great! Do it! brightonup
  • Score: 2

10:13pm Fri 23 May 14

mark by the sea says...

brightonup wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year!
He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance!
We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract?
That is clearly not working particularly well is it?
Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way!
This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion.
I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going!
Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far!
Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great!

Do it!
What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes!
If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...[/p][/quote]Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year! He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance! We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract? That is clearly not working particularly well is it? Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way! This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion. I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going! Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far![/p][/quote]Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great! Do it![/p][/quote]What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes! If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

10:15pm Fri 23 May 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

On a personal note I would like to thank Matt for his hard work and experience during his time with us but, on a more serious note, we had had a couple of really successful seasons with play of as a bonus. We have set the bar high and unless we get a manager in soon this rudderless ship is going nowhere. All the hard work may, and I say may end this new season as a mid table outfit. Losing two managers in two seasons, diwn to what looks like money issues, and the way we seem to handle players contracts when they are coming to a end doesnt help either. Unfortunately miney has to be made available to the new man when hes on board or knowing how fickle are fans are will sion let him know.i hope im wrong but the manager has to get the right players in at the right price and not let burke be the main man choosing them like he has for Oscar.
On a personal note I would like to thank Matt for his hard work and experience during his time with us but, on a more serious note, we had had a couple of really successful seasons with play of as a bonus. We have set the bar high and unless we get a manager in soon this rudderless ship is going nowhere. All the hard work may, and I say may end this new season as a mid table outfit. Losing two managers in two seasons, diwn to what looks like money issues, and the way we seem to handle players contracts when they are coming to a end doesnt help either. Unfortunately miney has to be made available to the new man when hes on board or knowing how fickle are fans are will sion let him know.i hope im wrong but the manager has to get the right players in at the right price and not let burke be the main man choosing them like he has for Oscar. Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 2

10:16pm Fri 23 May 14

gordongull says...

So, no changes to the FFP regulations. None of the proposals received the required 75% support, meaning that the current FFP regulations in their entirety remain in place for the 2014/15 season. Disappointingly, this also means that 'Real Time' Testing will not be implemented.
While there is uncertainty about the Football plan going forward, the same cannot be said about the Financial plan. Complying with the new regulations has had to take priority, and the Club appear to be dealing with that side of the business with commendable expertise. There can be no doubt that continued viability is the way to go, but revenue levels will depend to some extent on the team remaining competitive in this Division.
Attendances last season, despite entertainment levels, would suggest that gates of well over 20,000 are almost guaranteed.
Promotion should always be the target, but realistically another season keeping in touch with the top six would be an achievement , considering all the Premier League money that is available to clubs which have been relegated from the top flight over recent seasons.
So, no changes to the FFP regulations. None of the proposals received the required 75% support, meaning that the current FFP regulations in their entirety remain in place for the 2014/15 season. Disappointingly, this also means that 'Real Time' Testing will not be implemented. While there is uncertainty about the Football plan going forward, the same cannot be said about the Financial plan. Complying with the new regulations has had to take priority, and the Club appear to be dealing with that side of the business with commendable expertise. There can be no doubt that continued viability is the way to go, but revenue levels will depend to some extent on the team remaining competitive in this Division. Attendances last season, despite entertainment levels, would suggest that gates of well over 20,000 are almost guaranteed. Promotion should always be the target, but realistically another season keeping in touch with the top six would be an achievement , considering all the Premier League money that is available to clubs which have been relegated from the top flight over recent seasons. gordongull
  • Score: 2

10:34pm Fri 23 May 14

brightonup says...

mark by the sea wrote:
brightonup wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year!
He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance!
We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract?
That is clearly not working particularly well is it?
Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way!
This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion.
I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going!
Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far!
Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great!

Do it!
What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes!
If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time
Taken it funny then....
But to be blunt, is there any chance we could be hearing the last of your dispiriting guff?
Please?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...[/p][/quote]Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year! He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance! We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract? That is clearly not working particularly well is it? Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way! This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion. I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going! Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far![/p][/quote]Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great! Do it![/p][/quote]What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes! If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time[/p][/quote]Taken it funny then.... But to be blunt, is there any chance we could be hearing the last of your dispiriting guff? Please? brightonup
  • Score: 2

11:00pm Fri 23 May 14

OldGull says...

pjwilk wrote:
I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.
Dooh
He was offered another year, but prem football was offered.
Good luck to him
He moves on, we move on
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.[/p][/quote]Dooh He was offered another year, but prem football was offered. Good luck to him He moves on, we move on OldGull
  • Score: 2

11:16pm Fri 23 May 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
Like Carlton palmer ? Lol
Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?
You really are a negative person.
Your life must be miserable.
They have been picked for competitive matches, not just friendlies.
JFC scored a superb goal, but you still knock him.
Seriously what is your problem?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Like Carlton palmer ? Lol Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?[/p][/quote]You really are a negative person. Your life must be miserable. They have been picked for competitive matches, not just friendlies. JFC scored a superb goal, but you still knock him. Seriously what is your problem? OldGull
  • Score: 3

11:29pm Fri 23 May 14

The Phantom says...

OldGull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Ringmer Rich wrote:
Have we got any decent players left?
No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.
But then it is only May 23.
JFC? Dunk?
Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.
Like Carlton palmer ? Lol
Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?
You really are a negative person.
Your life must be miserable.
They have been picked for competitive matches, not just friendlies.
JFC scored a superb goal, but you still knock him.
Seriously what is your problem?
Yep, we have heard it all before......for JFC and Dunk read Elphick, El Abd, Ince - really tiresome and predictable and a little sad. Great achievement both for the club and the individuals concerned to have both players included in an Under-21 team whatever the circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ringmer Rich[/bold] wrote: Have we got any decent players left?[/p][/quote]No. Other than Ulloa. And Buckley. Oh, and LuaLua. Not to mention March. And JFC. And CMS, Calde, Bruno, Dunk etc. None at all.[/p][/quote]But then it is only May 23.[/p][/quote]JFC? Dunk?[/p][/quote]Sorry, I thought being selected to represent England at U21 showed you were a decent player. Apologies if I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Like Carlton palmer ? Lol Seriously the under 21 s are a joke ,the best players are injured.. Or on holiday as it's known .. Do you really think we have 2 of the best under 21 players in the country?[/p][/quote]You really are a negative person. Your life must be miserable. They have been picked for competitive matches, not just friendlies. JFC scored a superb goal, but you still knock him. Seriously what is your problem?[/p][/quote]Yep, we have heard it all before......for JFC and Dunk read Elphick, El Abd, Ince - really tiresome and predictable and a little sad. Great achievement both for the club and the individuals concerned to have both players included in an Under-21 team whatever the circumstances. The Phantom
  • Score: 2

12:09am Sat 24 May 14

falmer seagull says...

Need manager a.s.a.p. me thinks. Funny how some clubs get their new players in quickly e.g. Leicester, Bournemouth. We however, apart from Hoskins when we let Murray go and the recent Toku signing, never seem to manage it, even when we are told transfer targets are always ongoing. The new manager must have an input!
Need manager a.s.a.p. me thinks. Funny how some clubs get their new players in quickly e.g. Leicester, Bournemouth. We however, apart from Hoskins when we let Murray go and the recent Toku signing, never seem to manage it, even when we are told transfer targets are always ongoing. The new manager must have an input! falmer seagull
  • Score: 1

5:57am Sat 24 May 14

mark by the sea says...

OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.
Dooh
He was offered another year, but prem football was offered.
Good luck to him
He moves on, we move on
But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also..
Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m
Club need to wake up,
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.[/p][/quote]Dooh He was offered another year, but prem football was offered. Good luck to him He moves on, we move on[/p][/quote]But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also.. Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m Club need to wake up, mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

6:15am Sat 24 May 14

Thread Flintstone says...

I admire the way Derby have been this season. Lots of young and hungry players who have run most of the other teams ragged with their pace and enthusiasm. Perhaps we should start bringing on some of the DS and with a couple of the older lads.....see what happens.
I admire the way Derby have been this season. Lots of young and hungry players who have run most of the other teams ragged with their pace and enthusiasm. Perhaps we should start bringing on some of the DS and with a couple of the older lads.....see what happens. Thread Flintstone
  • Score: 1

7:11am Sat 24 May 14

brightonup says...

mark by the sea wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.
Dooh
He was offered another year, but prem football was offered.
Good luck to him
He moves on, we move on
But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also..
Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m
Club need to wake up,
You cannot be persuaded to go from this site then?
....but at least we won't have the displeasure of your company at matches?
Please confirm!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.[/p][/quote]Dooh He was offered another year, but prem football was offered. Good luck to him He moves on, we move on[/p][/quote]But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also.. Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m Club need to wake up,[/p][/quote]You cannot be persuaded to go from this site then? ....but at least we won't have the displeasure of your company at matches? Please confirm! brightonup
  • Score: 0

7:44am Sat 24 May 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.
Dooh
He was offered another year, but prem football was offered.
Good luck to him
He moves on, we move on
But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also..
Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m
Club need to wake up,
He also said he wanted another go at the prem.
I believe he would have signed if we had got promoted.
We didn't, so he didn't.
Total respect to the guy
If he can get prem football at 35 he should take it.
We got 2 excellent years from him on a free
We now move on.
TK said months ago that he was talking to prem clubs
His performances towards the end were poor.
In fact if Brez or Ank had made some of those mistakes they would have got slated
It was obvious he wanted out, he got his wish. He was another who would not have signed until he knew which league we were in
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: I guess Burke would not open his purse to keep Upson for one more year.[/p][/quote]Dooh He was offered another year, but prem football was offered. Good luck to him He moves on, we move on[/p][/quote]But your going along the Burke line of operation, upson should have been offered a year extension in November , and not allowed other clubs the chance to speak to him. .. We pay out £250k to Hoskins to sit at home recovering then release him lol ... Upson should have been offered deal, TK wanted a deal also.. Take ulloa march and Buckley ince out and the rest are worth 1m Club need to wake up,[/p][/quote]He also said he wanted another go at the prem. I believe he would have signed if we had got promoted. We didn't, so he didn't. Total respect to the guy If he can get prem football at 35 he should take it. We got 2 excellent years from him on a free We now move on. TK said months ago that he was talking to prem clubs His performances towards the end were poor. In fact if Brez or Ank had made some of those mistakes they would have got slated It was obvious he wanted out, he got his wish. He was another who would not have signed until he knew which league we were in OldGull
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8:41am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday?
Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

9:08am Sat 24 May 14

OldGull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday?
It is a strange creature.
We discuss issues re Upson &TK and it mentions Dunk?
Not only does it talk to Oatway but it claims to have spoken to OG.
Apparently you and I, along with many others are all related to Dunk because we support the Albion.

Long live all sad, vile little men who are related to Lewis
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday?[/p][/quote]It is a strange creature. We discuss issues re Upson &TK and it mentions Dunk? Not only does it talk to Oatway but it claims to have spoken to OG. Apparently you and I, along with many others are all related to Dunk because we support the Albion. Long live all sad, vile little men who are related to Lewis OldGull
  • Score: 3

9:09am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday?
LOL why. He still has friends in the Albion pub in church rd Hove,and the Seafield.Plus even more friends up the Neville pub in Hove.Does that help Ex-pat
Not really, because it is the wrong answer. He wasn't visiting friends/family (although may have done while he was here), he was down for a very specific reason.
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Freeloaders: If you are friends with Oatway, why was he in Brighton yesterday?[/p][/quote]LOL why. He still has friends in the Albion pub in church rd Hove,and the Seafield.Plus even more friends up the Neville pub in Hove.Does that help Ex-pat[/p][/quote]Not really, because it is the wrong answer. He wasn't visiting friends/family (although may have done while he was here), he was down for a very specific reason. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

10:29am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Oatway was buying/leasing a new car. I'm surprised your mate didn't tell you.

#dunkmafia
Oatway was buying/leasing a new car. I'm surprised your mate didn't tell you. #dunkmafia Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

11:10am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Oatway was buying/leasing a new car. I'm surprised your mate didn't tell you.

#dunkmafia
What Mr,Dunkmafia he didn't see friends then lol.Just into town and off haha.I thought you was not in the country Worthing boy lol.
Did you miss the bit where I wrote "He wasn't visiting friends/family (although may have done while he was here)".

He was down here for the sole reason of getting a new car, something which he seems not to have told you. I wonder why...

I'm not sure how being in the country or not is relevant... you HAVE heard of the internet, haven't you? Anyway, I was over to stand in the local elections for the Dunk Is My Son Party - we now have over 5,000 members apparently.

#dunkmafia #argusownersclub
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Oatway was buying/leasing a new car. I'm surprised your mate didn't tell you. #dunkmafia[/p][/quote]What Mr,Dunkmafia he didn't see friends then lol.Just into town and off haha.I thought you was not in the country Worthing boy lol.[/p][/quote]Did you miss the bit where I wrote "He wasn't visiting friends/family (although may have done while he was here)". He was down here for the sole reason of getting a new car, something which he seems not to have told you. I wonder why... I'm not sure how being in the country or not is relevant... you HAVE heard of the internet, haven't you? Anyway, I was over to stand in the local elections for the Dunk Is My Son Party - we now have over 5,000 members apparently. #dunkmafia #argusownersclub Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

11:20am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)?
Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

11:38am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)?
I call him gangster all the time his uncle was inside with my brother.Plus we both have bald heads.
That wasn't quite how you phrased it on here though is it? You despised him, or so you said.

Still, it's nice to finally find out which one of us two really is from a family of criminals...
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)?[/p][/quote]I call him gangster all the time his uncle was inside with my brother.Plus we both have bald heads.[/p][/quote]That wasn't quite how you phrased it on here though is it? You despised him, or so you said. Still, it's nice to finally find out which one of us two really is from a family of criminals... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

11:49am Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ha ha ha ha lol pure outstanding etc.

You've never been off this site that long, in fact you're so desperate to stay on it you've come up with 50+ pseudonyms. Now THAT is sad :-D

Ha ha ha ha lol pure outstanding etc.
Ha ha ha ha lol pure outstanding etc. You've never been off this site that long, in fact you're so desperate to stay on it you've come up with 50+ pseudonyms. Now THAT is sad :-D Ha ha ha ha lol pure outstanding etc. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

1:21pm Sat 24 May 14

OldGull says...

Expat please don't communicate with it.
It thrives on being vindictive
Expat please don't communicate with it. It thrives on being vindictive OldGull
  • Score: -1

1:49pm Sat 24 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

OldGull wrote:
Expat please don't communicate with it.
It thrives on being vindictive
Apologies... and I've been so disciplined lately! It's like crack... back on the wagon! Cold turkey...
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Expat please don't communicate with it. It thrives on being vindictive[/p][/quote]Apologies... and I've been so disciplined lately! It's like crack... back on the wagon! Cold turkey... Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

10:50am Sun 25 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

iRobot208 wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
brightonup wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing!
No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.
That assumes the players would want to sign new deals.
It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do.
We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...
Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year!
He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance!
We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract?
That is clearly not working particularly well is it?
Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way!
This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion.
I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going!
Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far!
Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great!

Do it!
What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes!
If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time
Outstanding MBTS yet again.Yet again phone the Argus and scream im gona kill myself if you don't remove him.They still can't give a reason why clubs like Palace,Hull,Swansea,

Derby,and LCFC but a few don't make bids for Dunk? Im friends with Oatway and Poyet does not want Dunk in a million years no more than Palace or Southampton do.TK & Bridcutt said it was a done deal last summer,and OG told national press im walking away mths ago.The Dunk family now has full control of this site and the Argus does nothing.NJ Dunk has a big future at the club lol haha.Did OG have no say then????
You're friends with Oatway? Do he know?

And if so, does he know that you referred to him as a bald-headed gangster approximately one year ago on this site?
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Not impressed , allowing our player of the season to leave again( 2 in a season) is a joke, upson should have been given a extension in November December and tied in, yes he could have got injured .. But in truth we allow a excellent player to join a premiership club for nothing! No doubt. Our poorer players out of contract will stay, but that's simply got to change things in the future.[/p][/quote]That assumes the players would want to sign new deals. It's not all one-way traffic and for fans now rueing the out-of-contract loss of Upson, Kuszak etc, bear in mind the players hold all the cards. If they don't want to sign, there's nothing the club can do. We could of course play the same game with div one teams, but then there'd be hell to pay on here.... Sometimes the bosses can't win...[/p][/quote]Upson would have probably jumped at the chance of another year last November, players out of contract end of June can talk to clubs from end of January I think or around that time, this guy should have been offered a deal last year! He probably could not believe his luck at going back to the premier league , my point is he should never had the chance! We give Hoskins a year to recover and pay him 250k minimum, but we allow our player of the season to go out of contract? That is clearly not working particularly well is it? Yes players have all the cards, but grabban was kept by Bournemouth in a similar way! This club has reached its ceiling , and managers are expected to perform with dross and achieve promotion. I won't renew again next season till June when I know what I am actually going to get for my cash.. Extremely disappointed in the way the club is going! Protect your assets and progress.. I do feel Burke is taking a crusade on wages to far![/p][/quote]Not wishing to be presumptuous or too gleeful, but does your decision not to renew your season ticket mean that you will refrain from commenting on this site. Just asking..... but if so, I really think that would be great! Do it![/p][/quote]What don't you and Arnie bulk buy your cleanex tissues? Another who obviously never goes! If you think I should be happy when we lose our player of the season for nothing! I part with £1000 a year to watch the albion .. Today I am p-ssed off big time[/p][/quote]Outstanding MBTS yet again.Yet again phone the Argus and scream im gona kill myself if you don't remove him.They still can't give a reason why clubs like Palace,Hull,Swansea, Derby,and LCFC but a few don't make bids for Dunk? Im friends with Oatway and Poyet does not want Dunk in a million years no more than Palace or Southampton do.TK & Bridcutt said it was a done deal last summer,and OG told national press im walking away mths ago.The Dunk family now has full control of this site and the Argus does nothing.NJ Dunk has a big future at the club lol haha.Did OG have no say then????[/p][/quote]You're friends with Oatway? Do he know? And if so, does he know that you referred to him as a bald-headed gangster approximately one year ago on this site? Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

6:25pm Sun 25 May 14

Captain Haddock says...

iRobot208 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
iRobot208 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)?
I call him gangster all the time his uncle was inside with my brother.Plus we both have bald heads.
That wasn't quite how you phrased it on here though is it? You despised him, or so you said.

Still, it's nice to finally find out which one of us two really is from a family of criminals...
What a vile snob you really are you vile little man.We can all feel what a vile weak nonce you really are Ex-pat.Take it your be calling the Argus again monday lol haha. Really why don't you just kill yourself because its clear you really don't have a life away from this site.I can go away 3 or 4 weeks at a time but your on it 24/7 every single bl--dy day of the year.Get a life your vile little sad man.
Now read that back again Freeloaders. Offensive, libellous and provocative. And you wonder why you keep getting banned?
[quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iRobot208[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Funny how he's never mentioned his new car then, isn't it? Did you also discuss that time you called him a gangster (that time when you forgot which lie you were telling)?[/p][/quote]I call him gangster all the time his uncle was inside with my brother.Plus we both have bald heads.[/p][/quote]That wasn't quite how you phrased it on here though is it? You despised him, or so you said. Still, it's nice to finally find out which one of us two really is from a family of criminals...[/p][/quote]What a vile snob you really are you vile little man.We can all feel what a vile weak nonce you really are Ex-pat.Take it your be calling the Argus again monday lol haha. Really why don't you just kill yourself because its clear you really don't have a life away from this site.I can go away 3 or 4 weeks at a time but your on it 24/7 every single bl--dy day of the year.Get a life your vile little sad man.[/p][/quote]Now read that back again Freeloaders. Offensive, libellous and provocative. And you wonder why you keep getting banned? Captain Haddock
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