Orlandi urges Albion to keep Ulloa

Andrea Orlandi, top, insists Leo Ulloa remains a vital player to Albion

Andrea Orlandi, top, insists Leo Ulloa remains a vital player to Albion

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A former Albion favourite has revealed his hope that Leo Ulloa does not follow him out of the exit at the Amex.

Andrea Orlandi has hailed the Argentinean’s “massive” impact in the Seagulls’ back-to-back play-off campaigns.

And he hopes big money does not prise him away to the Premier League.

Leicester City have made at least three bids for the 16-goal striker but they are still well short of the asking price, reported to be close to £10million.

Orlandi, who was surprised to be let go by Albion at the end of last season, said: “Leo has been massive for us.

“He became our main man in scoring a lot of goals and we relied on him a lot.

“Especially when in some games trying to play long balls to him and his skills and strength have been really, really important.

“I think Brighton should keep them but I am not sure they are going to.”

Albion are in no rush to sell one of their prized assets.

Chairman Tony Bloom and chief executive Paul Barber continue to weigh up candidates for their vacant managerial post.

Meanwhile, Orlandi has yet to decide his next move.

He said: “I am on holiday at the moment so I do not have any reason to come back just yet.

“I will start looking at things in a week or so and decide what my options are.

“If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased.”

Albion are still well placed to bring back Stephen Ward, the Republic of Ireland left-back who is not wanted by Wolves.

Ward helped his nation to a 0-0 friendly draw with Italy on Saturday, playing the full 90 minutes.

His compatriot Keith Andrews, out of favour at Bolton, is being linked with a move to Huddersfield.

Meanwhile, the club have confirmed head of scouting and recruitment Mervyn Day has been made redundant.

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5:37am Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else!
It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout !
I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton .
I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job!
This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!!
Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else! It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout ! I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton . I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job! This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!! mark by the sea
  • Score: 15

6:54am Mon 2 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Looks like Mr charisma Steve Clarke :-(
Looks like Mr charisma Steve Clarke :-( AlfieT
  • Score: 5

7:21am Mon 2 Jun 14

bbb1969 says...

It's early in the morning a tumbleweed is blowing across this forum. No news then; ok I will just read the posts. Seems to be one person talking to themselves, think I will wait until later when we get some real news.
It's early in the morning a tumbleweed is blowing across this forum. No news then; ok I will just read the posts. Seems to be one person talking to themselves, think I will wait until later when we get some real news. bbb1969
  • Score: 5

7:28am Mon 2 Jun 14

Far gull says...

AlfieT wrote:
Looks like Mr charisma Steve Clarke :-(
Oh . !! Can't wait !! Obviously has agreed to spend little and coach.
If comes to pass as correct a disappointment as he is hardly going to create a buzz round the place.
Tim was the call required for a current up and coming manager with ability to attract top players on the 'project ticket,not all about the money to start with' if you get my drift.
Clarke is an excellent no2 , not no 1 imho. ?
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: Looks like Mr charisma Steve Clarke :-([/p][/quote]Oh . !! Can't wait !! Obviously has agreed to spend little and coach. If comes to pass as correct a disappointment as he is hardly going to create a buzz round the place. Tim was the call required for a current up and coming manager with ability to attract top players on the 'project ticket,not all about the money to start with' if you get my drift. Clarke is an excellent no2 , not no 1 imho. ? Far gull
  • Score: 3

7:44am Mon 2 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Quote I am on holiday at the moment, LOL

When have you not been on holiday in the last 12 months? mr orlandi
Quote I am on holiday at the moment, LOL When have you not been on holiday in the last 12 months? mr orlandi ringtone
  • Score: -26

8:04am Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

What is of concern is that we now have to show real ambition to keep Ulloa interested now he has been distracted by the bright lights of the premier league with the Leicester bids he will not be focussed on playing for Albion unless we show real determination to get promoted next season. I find it incredible that either Malcky Mac or Chris Hughton haven't been appointed yet, these two are promotion experts Taylor made for the Albion, what more do we want from a manager? Hopefully i's are being dotted and t's being crossed as we speak for one of them. Patience is good up to a point but I don't like the way this is dragging on, now is a time for action. If not Mackay or Hughton then Steve Clarke or Tim Sherwood are a must, but it really is worth pushing the boat out to get the best manager out there.
What is of concern is that we now have to show real ambition to keep Ulloa interested now he has been distracted by the bright lights of the premier league with the Leicester bids he will not be focussed on playing for Albion unless we show real determination to get promoted next season. I find it incredible that either Malcky Mac or Chris Hughton haven't been appointed yet, these two are promotion experts Taylor made for the Albion, what more do we want from a manager? Hopefully i's are being dotted and t's being crossed as we speak for one of them. Patience is good up to a point but I don't like the way this is dragging on, now is a time for action. If not Mackay or Hughton then Steve Clarke or Tim Sherwood are a must, but it really is worth pushing the boat out to get the best manager out there. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -5

8:35am Mon 2 Jun 14

Neville says...

Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well. Neville
  • Score: 6

8:36am Mon 2 Jun 14

9 of us says...

bbb1969 wrote:
It's early in the morning a tumbleweed is blowing across this forum. No news then; ok I will just read the posts. Seems to be one person talking to themselves, think I will wait until later when we get some real news.
Totally agree with you.
Doesn't he/she love the sound of their own voice on here, that's if you can make sese of the theads.
[quote][p][bold]bbb1969[/bold] wrote: It's early in the morning a tumbleweed is blowing across this forum. No news then; ok I will just read the posts. Seems to be one person talking to themselves, think I will wait until later when we get some real news.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you. Doesn't he/she love the sound of their own voice on here, that's if you can make sese of the theads. 9 of us
  • Score: -7

8:43am Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Now, I like Orlandi and was sorry he wasn't retained. I'm guessing that his departure had nothing to do with his footballing prowess and all to do with ongoing concerns regarding his level of fitness. However, while agreeing with his statement about Ulloa, I wonder why he's come off the beach to inform us of his view. How does this work? Did he contact the Argus or did Brian Owen contact him? Is his love of the Albion so great that he only wants the best for us, or is it a little bit of stirring up and why on earth do the Argus think it's relevant? RSVP Brian.
Now, I like Orlandi and was sorry he wasn't retained. I'm guessing that his departure had nothing to do with his footballing prowess and all to do with ongoing concerns regarding his level of fitness. However, while agreeing with his statement about Ulloa, I wonder why he's come off the beach to inform us of his view. How does this work? Did he contact the Argus or did Brian Owen contact him? Is his love of the Albion so great that he only wants the best for us, or is it a little bit of stirring up and why on earth do the Argus think it's relevant? RSVP Brian. dave from bexill
  • Score: 9

8:46am Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Neville wrote:
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.[/p][/quote]Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May? dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

9:00am Mon 2 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

What I don't get is we have a meaningless story from a player who has been released and a single line at the end about the Head of Scouting and Recruitment job being made redundant.
That means there won't be a direct replacement in terms of exact job title and job description, which I'd suggest is rather more important to our future planning than AO's Ulloa love-in?
Surely the question that needs to be asked is 'what happens now'? Is scouting and recruitment to be handled by the DOF? It may not be as populist, but In the context of the manager situation, this must merit a bigger reflection than just a single sentence at the end of a story that, in truth, informs us of absolutely nothing?????
What I don't get is we have a meaningless story from a player who has been released and a single line at the end about the Head of Scouting and Recruitment job being made redundant. That means there won't be a direct replacement in terms of exact job title and job description, which I'd suggest is rather more important to our future planning than AO's Ulloa love-in? Surely the question that needs to be asked is 'what happens now'? Is scouting and recruitment to be handled by the DOF? It may not be as populist, but In the context of the manager situation, this must merit a bigger reflection than just a single sentence at the end of a story that, in truth, informs us of absolutely nothing????? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 17

9:11am Mon 2 Jun 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

dave from bexill says...


Neville wrote:
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?

Larry May is a former club captain. You're obviously a young whipper snapper.
dave from bexill says... Neville wrote: Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well. Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May? Larry May is a former club captain. You're obviously a young whipper snapper. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 4

9:17am Mon 2 Jun 14

Max Ripple says...

ringtone wrote:
Quote I am on holiday at the moment, LOL

When have you not been on holiday in the last 12 months? mr orlandi
Go away. I thought we'd seen the last of you.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Quote I am on holiday at the moment, LOL When have you not been on holiday in the last 12 months? mr orlandi[/p][/quote]Go away. I thought we'd seen the last of you. Max Ripple
  • Score: 1

9:19am Mon 2 Jun 14

Grummitt says...

Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer.. Grummitt
  • Score: 3

9:20am Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
dave from bexill says...


Neville wrote:
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?

Larry May is a former club captain. You're obviously a young whipper snapper.
Yes, I remember him as a player at Brighton and Leicester, but wasn't sure of his role at the club until recently. "Young whipper snapper"...I wish Brian
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: dave from bexill says... Neville wrote: Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well. Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May? Larry May is a former club captain. You're obviously a young whipper snapper.[/p][/quote]Yes, I remember him as a player at Brighton and Leicester, but wasn't sure of his role at the club until recently. "Young whipper snapper"...I wish Brian dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

9:30am Mon 2 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning boys,
Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million,
On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call,
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning boys, Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million, On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call, Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

9:44am Mon 2 Jun 14

Simon Mew says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning boys, Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million, On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call, Up the Albion!!!!
You make that statement like Ward is sat waiting for us to make an offer. I think you'll find that Ward the one making the decision on where he plays next on advice from his agent.

The fee is not an issue but if he is offered bigger wages at a higher level then there is nothing we can do.

If you had 4 job offers would you take the first one or wait to see what packages the others offered? And then what would you base your decision on? Quite simple when you think about it
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning boys, Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million, On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]You make that statement like Ward is sat waiting for us to make an offer. I think you'll find that Ward the one making the decision on where he plays next on advice from his agent. The fee is not an issue but if he is offered bigger wages at a higher level then there is nothing we can do. If you had 4 job offers would you take the first one or wait to see what packages the others offered? And then what would you base your decision on? Quite simple when you think about it Simon Mew
  • Score: 3

9:53am Mon 2 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

Grummitt wrote:
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Therefore, so will the price.
[quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..[/p][/quote]Therefore, so will the price. Claude Back
  • Score: 0

9:56am Mon 2 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Grummitt wrote:
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Well, if he is going to leave, a bidding war will push up the price.
Whilst I have liked what Leo has done for us, I am not sure he is prem quality.
[quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..[/p][/quote]Well, if he is going to leave, a bidding war will push up the price. Whilst I have liked what Leo has done for us, I am not sure he is prem quality. OldGull
  • Score: 0

10:00am Mon 2 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Grummitt wrote:
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0)

Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert.

Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war!
[quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..[/p][/quote]Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0) Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert. Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

10:05am Mon 2 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Grummitt wrote:
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0)

Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert.

Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war!
Assuming our mystery man agrees to play a similar style to the previous two managers/coaches, I'd be happy for LU to go as I'm not sure he's a massive contributor to the overall style of play.
I admit that may sound strange given his 'contribution' in terms of goals, but he's not a ball playing striker and if we play in the same manner as before, we should be able to find someone who fits the style AND scores the goals.
So for me, it's not a major issue if he goes. Think of Burnley and Charlie Austin. They sold and still went up.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..[/p][/quote]Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0) Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert. Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war![/p][/quote]Assuming our mystery man agrees to play a similar style to the previous two managers/coaches, I'd be happy for LU to go as I'm not sure he's a massive contributor to the overall style of play. I admit that may sound strange given his 'contribution' in terms of goals, but he's not a ball playing striker and if we play in the same manner as before, we should be able to find someone who fits the style AND scores the goals. So for me, it's not a major issue if he goes. Think of Burnley and Charlie Austin. They sold and still went up. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

10:20am Mon 2 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

´If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased´!!! I thought he was still contracted to BHA??? So why would he not come back?? Odd thing to say.
Mervyn Day --redundant--YES it does mean the JOB is redundant NOT the person. So looks like that position has gone. It is against the law to make a position redundant and then immediately re-employ a person for the same job. Hope this week we have some GOOD news on Manager and --who knows--a new player??
´If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased´!!! I thought he was still contracted to BHA??? So why would he not come back?? Odd thing to say. Mervyn Day --redundant--YES it does mean the JOB is redundant NOT the person. So looks like that position has gone. It is against the law to make a position redundant and then immediately re-employ a person for the same job. Hope this week we have some GOOD news on Manager and --who knows--a new player?? mikeygit
  • Score: -1

10:23am Mon 2 Jun 14

Grummitt says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Grummitt wrote:
Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..
Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0)

Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert.

Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war!
Thanks for the welcome Captain. Had the bug since my first visit to the Goldstone too many years ago that I care to remember. Involvement in local football has limited me getting to matches over the years, but now back in the fold and had a season ticket for the the last couple of years. I agree Saints could be a good fit for Leo, hope he doesn't go but as you say the more clubs interested will maximise the price.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grummitt[/bold] wrote: Hi guys been reading the forum for a while now so decided its about time to join in the fun. Looking at the Sky Sports paper review they are quoting the Sun as reporting that Southampton are considering a bid for Ulloa should as expected Lambert goes to Liverpool. Looks like the queue for Leo's services is getting longer..[/p][/quote]Hi Grummitt. Welcome to the forum. How long have you suffered with The Albion Bug then?!! ;0) Didn't think about Saints but I guess that makes some sense as Leo has some comparative credentials to Lambert. Looks odds-on that he'll be off now. Best we may be able to hope for now is a bidding war![/p][/quote]Thanks for the welcome Captain. Had the bug since my first visit to the Goldstone too many years ago that I care to remember. Involvement in local football has limited me getting to matches over the years, but now back in the fold and had a season ticket for the the last couple of years. I agree Saints could be a good fit for Leo, hope he doesn't go but as you say the more clubs interested will maximise the price. Grummitt
  • Score: 5

10:25am Mon 2 Jun 14

lenward says...

Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth.

As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please.

Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care.

It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger.

So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA.
Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth. As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please. Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care. It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger. So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA. lenward
  • Score: 3

10:42am Mon 2 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

lenward wrote:
Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth.

As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please.

Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care.

It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger.

So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA.
Your a brown nosing dreamer :-)
[quote][p][bold]lenward[/bold] wrote: Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth. As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please. Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care. It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger. So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA.[/p][/quote]Your a brown nosing dreamer :-) AlfieT
  • Score: 7

10:43am Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

lenward wrote:
Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth.

As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please.

Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care.

It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger.

So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA.
Good points but I think that with the facilities and potential, we are not maximising them and a good manager is a must to spearhead a promotion challenge, the board seem to be holding back too much for my liking. Oh well maybe the new man is about to be announced and we can all breathe a sigh of relief. What's happened to Alloa? Are they not in the Scottish league any more?
[quote][p][bold]lenward[/bold] wrote: Now you can call me a brown noser if you like, but as anyone thought that why it's taken so long to appoint a new manager is that the club what to get someone who will build a new team for the future. We have just had a disappointing end to the season for the second time, and although we had a good side, it has not been quite good enough. So I'm starting to think that the club started to think long term, And I also think Gus wanted premier league football and that why he left. As why Oscar went I can only think it could be his family couldn't settle, it could be he didn't like the length of time it took to get players, but we can only speculate as we will probably never know the truth. As for the departure of Mervyn Day. it could be also that it just did not work and the club is having a bit of a shake up. I have to ask the question as well, who is Larry May, and what did he do. answers on a postcard please. Now I know there's people out there that will say what a load of rubbish, and they may be right, but I like to think on the positive side of this club that I support, and TB is a supporter to and will always do the right thing for the club. He may not always get it right and in some peoples eyes he never will, but he will try. You can not tell me a person who put that amount of money into a club does not care. It will be disappointing if Alloa does go, but we have survived a lot worse, and come back stronger. So can we stop all this doom and gloom. we have a new training ground which will bring in revenue. a new manager soon, and fresh hope for the future. Call me a dreamer, but that's all we have been doing for the last 31 years. UTA.[/p][/quote]Good points but I think that with the facilities and potential, we are not maximising them and a good manager is a must to spearhead a promotion challenge, the board seem to be holding back too much for my liking. Oh well maybe the new man is about to be announced and we can all breathe a sigh of relief. What's happened to Alloa? Are they not in the Scottish league any more? East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 7

10:48am Mon 2 Jun 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

It's sad to hear Andrea now talking about "Brighton" rather than "we" :-(
In the absence of any real news about the manager, please can Brian contact Andrea again and get some photos of him wearing very little on a beach? Thank you
It's sad to hear Andrea now talking about "Brighton" rather than "we" :-( In the absence of any real news about the manager, please can Brian contact Andrea again and get some photos of him wearing very little on a beach? Thank you Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 6

10:48am Mon 2 Jun 14

Neville says...

Alfie T
Larry May ex albion player worked for AITC
Alfie T Larry May ex albion player worked for AITC Neville
  • Score: 1

11:00am Mon 2 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Simon Mew wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning boys, Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million, On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call, Up the Albion!!!!
You make that statement like Ward is sat waiting for us to make an offer. I think you'll find that Ward the one making the decision on where he plays next on advice from his agent.

The fee is not an issue but if he is offered bigger wages at a higher level then there is nothing we can do.

If you had 4 job offers would you take the first one or wait to see what packages the others offered? And then what would you base your decision on? Quite simple when you think about it
To be honest I didn't think I was making a statement about getting Ward back, if were waiting for a new manager first to come in so he can have a say about new players then fair enough, but if we are not waiting then why not get him back to our club, we all no what he can do, and no I probably wouldn't take the first job offer I was offered but I don't have to, I have my own business so I don't need to worry about that,
Up the Albion!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Simon Mew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning boys, Paper talk today says saints could make a bid for Leo to replace Lambert could push the price up a few million, On another note get Ward signed up were are going to find a quality left back for hundred grand even if we have to pay him a decent wage then so be it for that price, I imagine we paid more than that for Chickensen, he won't wait forever for a call, Up the Albion!!!![/p][/quote]You make that statement like Ward is sat waiting for us to make an offer. I think you'll find that Ward the one making the decision on where he plays next on advice from his agent. The fee is not an issue but if he is offered bigger wages at a higher level then there is nothing we can do. If you had 4 job offers would you take the first one or wait to see what packages the others offered? And then what would you base your decision on? Quite simple when you think about it[/p][/quote]To be honest I didn't think I was making a statement about getting Ward back, if were waiting for a new manager first to come in so he can have a say about new players then fair enough, but if we are not waiting then why not get him back to our club, we all no what he can do, and no I probably wouldn't take the first job offer I was offered but I don't have to, I have my own business so I don't need to worry about that, Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -4

11:04am Mon 2 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Leo looked tired and disinterested towards the end of last season, playing the lone striker role is hard work, he got back into the habit of looking at the defender and not the ball, probably fed up with being fouled all the time. If Southampton coming knocking to replace Lambert he will go and I wouldn't blame him, I think with the right service he will do well in the premiership.
Leo looked tired and disinterested towards the end of last season, playing the lone striker role is hard work, he got back into the habit of looking at the defender and not the ball, probably fed up with being fouled all the time. If Southampton coming knocking to replace Lambert he will go and I wouldn't blame him, I think with the right service he will do well in the premiership. AlfieT
  • Score: 1

11:23am Mon 2 Jun 14

pablobrowno says...

mikeygit wrote:
´If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased´!!! I thought he was still contracted to BHA??? So why would he not come back?? Odd thing to say.
Mervyn Day --redundant--YES it does mean the JOB is redundant NOT the person. So looks like that position has gone. It is against the law to make a position redundant and then immediately re-employ a person for the same job. Hope this week we have some GOOD news on Manager and --who knows--a new player??
Where have you been? We released Orlandi at the end of his contract, it was pretty big news!

On the subject of Ulloa, I don't see him replacing Lambert, he'd be a great addition for most Prem sides but wouldn't be a shoe-in to lead the line immediately.

On the subject of Ward he has stated he'd love to come back to the Albion, I think it's just a case of getting the deal done.

Frustrating though this news 'vacuum' is, our club is in great hands, be patient and let them look after it. We seem to be the Arsenal of the championship in terms of managing our budget.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: ´If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased´!!! I thought he was still contracted to BHA??? So why would he not come back?? Odd thing to say. Mervyn Day --redundant--YES it does mean the JOB is redundant NOT the person. So looks like that position has gone. It is against the law to make a position redundant and then immediately re-employ a person for the same job. Hope this week we have some GOOD news on Manager and --who knows--a new player??[/p][/quote]Where have you been? We released Orlandi at the end of his contract, it was pretty big news! On the subject of Ulloa, I don't see him replacing Lambert, he'd be a great addition for most Prem sides but wouldn't be a shoe-in to lead the line immediately. On the subject of Ward he has stated he'd love to come back to the Albion, I think it's just a case of getting the deal done. Frustrating though this news 'vacuum' is, our club is in great hands, be patient and let them look after it. We seem to be the Arsenal of the championship in terms of managing our budget. pablobrowno
  • Score: 0

11:31am Mon 2 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I don't see the relevance of Andrea's opinion other than to keep him in the picture. Maybe he's angling for a return.
Mervyn Day leaving on redundancy is far more significant and warrants more than the last sentence. This is the main story and the Albion need to give us more info as to why. Is scouting and recruitment being done differently from now on?.
Larry May. Didn't even know he worked for AITC but his leaving may not be significant because we don't know why. He could have moved on to pastures new. Being an ex Leicester player maybe he was tapping up our Leo.
Has the Albion got a Head of Communications because I expect that job may have gone if it ever existed in the first place.
Back to the greenhouse. UTA
I don't see the relevance of Andrea's opinion other than to keep him in the picture. Maybe he's angling for a return. Mervyn Day leaving on redundancy is far more significant and warrants more than the last sentence. This is the main story and the Albion need to give us more info as to why. Is scouting and recruitment being done differently from now on?. Larry May. Didn't even know he worked for AITC but his leaving may not be significant because we don't know why. He could have moved on to pastures new. Being an ex Leicester player maybe he was tapping up our Leo. Has the Albion got a Head of Communications because I expect that job may have gone if it ever existed in the first place. Back to the greenhouse. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 6

11:31am Mon 2 Jun 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

so far we've got a striker called Alloa, people not heard of Larry May and a head scout being made redundant.......how can so many 'supporters' not have heard of Larry May ?
For what it's worth, if, as reported, Soton are offering £6m for Ulloa, get rid..
so far we've got a striker called Alloa, people not heard of Larry May and a head scout being made redundant.......how can so many 'supporters' not have heard of Larry May ? For what it's worth, if, as reported, Soton are offering £6m for Ulloa, get rid.. Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -3

11:43am Mon 2 Jun 14

AlfieT says...

Neville wrote:
Alfie T
Larry May ex albion player worked for AITC
I didn't ask the question Nev, I know who Larry May is !
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Alfie T Larry May ex albion player worked for AITC[/p][/quote]I didn't ask the question Nev, I know who Larry May is ! AlfieT
  • Score: 1

11:50am Mon 2 Jun 14

mikeygit says...

pablo--Yes you are right--I have egg on my face!! Miss read article as Ulloas now on holiday abroad---silly me!! Must learn to READ before posting!!!
Other guys--- the name is ULLOA!!!
pablo--Yes you are right--I have egg on my face!! Miss read article as Ulloas now on holiday abroad---silly me!! Must learn to READ before posting!!! Other guys--- the name is ULLOA!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 0

12:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!).
Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!). SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Tommy11 says...

Argus paper - your rubbish!!

I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid??

Totally useless.
Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless. Tommy11
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Mon 2 Jun 14

rolivan says...

I see Reading are sailing close to the wind even with Parachute payments . It would seem "The Suits" as a few like to call the people at the club who are making big decisions are getting things right . All we need now is for the Authorities to clamp down on those Fouling FFP rules . points deduction should be mandatory as well as fines.
I see Reading are sailing close to the wind even with Parachute payments . It would seem "The Suits" as a few like to call the people at the club who are making big decisions are getting things right . All we need now is for the Authorities to clamp down on those Fouling FFP rules . points deduction should be mandatory as well as fines. rolivan
  • Score: 5

12:31pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Argus paper - your rubbish!!

I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid??

Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

12:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!).
I think the goalkeeping coach has left already.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!).[/p][/quote]I think the goalkeeping coach has left already. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

12:36pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Tommy11 says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper?[/p][/quote]Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too. Tommy11
  • Score: 0

12:48pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.
They don't sell the paper out here, funnily enough, but I do click on the website ads to help generate them some income.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper?[/p][/quote]Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.[/p][/quote]They don't sell the paper out here, funnily enough, but I do click on the website ads to help generate them some income. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

12:50pm Mon 2 Jun 14

fan since 61 says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
What is of concern is that we now have to show real ambition to keep Ulloa interested now he has been distracted by the bright lights of the premier league with the Leicester bids he will not be focussed on playing for Albion unless we show real determination to get promoted next season. I find it incredible that either Malcky Mac or Chris Hughton haven't been appointed yet, these two are promotion experts Taylor made for the Albion, what more do we want from a manager? Hopefully i's are being dotted and t's being crossed as we speak for one of them. Patience is good up to a point but I don't like the way this is dragging on, now is a time for action. If not Mackay or Hughton then Steve Clarke or Tim Sherwood are a must, but it really is worth pushing the boat out to get the best manager out there.
promotion and relegation experts .
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: What is of concern is that we now have to show real ambition to keep Ulloa interested now he has been distracted by the bright lights of the premier league with the Leicester bids he will not be focussed on playing for Albion unless we show real determination to get promoted next season. I find it incredible that either Malcky Mac or Chris Hughton haven't been appointed yet, these two are promotion experts Taylor made for the Albion, what more do we want from a manager? Hopefully i's are being dotted and t's being crossed as we speak for one of them. Patience is good up to a point but I don't like the way this is dragging on, now is a time for action. If not Mackay or Hughton then Steve Clarke or Tim Sherwood are a must, but it really is worth pushing the boat out to get the best manager out there.[/p][/quote]promotion and relegation experts . fan since 61
  • Score: 0

12:51pm Mon 2 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Neville wrote:
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?
Larry May was the main reason we were able to stay up as a second division club after just getting promotion from the old third division. We lost our first 8 (I believe - could be more) games after getting promoted. The club spent £100,000 on taking Larry May from Leicester City and he was a magnificent signing and a wonderful character. I believe his young son is a goalkeeper with the younger squad. Good luck Larry - wherever you go. I could imagine you may have found things hard to witness coming from you experienced back ground.

It does seem that with Mervyn Day also leaving the real experienced pros are gradually being fazed out.

Interesting that it's felt necessary. Is there a belief that old attitudes no longer work in football? When I see the most successful managers around most of them seem to operate under the 'old way' and have years if experience . Even the younger successful ones like , Brendan Rogers, absolutely refuse to work with a Director of Football making the football decisions.

I really hope we are not witnessing an attitude of 'the money men know best' cos normally they don't ! Works best when each acknowledges the others value and keep strict boundaries and demarcation lines.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.[/p][/quote]Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?[/p][/quote]Larry May was the main reason we were able to stay up as a second division club after just getting promotion from the old third division. We lost our first 8 (I believe - could be more) games after getting promoted. The club spent £100,000 on taking Larry May from Leicester City and he was a magnificent signing and a wonderful character. I believe his young son is a goalkeeper with the younger squad. Good luck Larry - wherever you go. I could imagine you may have found things hard to witness coming from you experienced back ground. It does seem that with Mervyn Day also leaving the real experienced pros are gradually being fazed out. Interesting that it's felt necessary. Is there a belief that old attitudes no longer work in football? When I see the most successful managers around most of them seem to operate under the 'old way' and have years if experience . Even the younger successful ones like , Brendan Rogers, absolutely refuse to work with a Director of Football making the football decisions. I really hope we are not witnessing an attitude of 'the money men know best' cos normally they don't ! Works best when each acknowledges the others value and keep strict boundaries and demarcation lines. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 4

12:57pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Tommy11 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.
Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion.
Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates?
So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps..
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper?[/p][/quote]Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.[/p][/quote]Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion. Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates? So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps.. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mervyn Day gets made redundant and his role within the club is absorbed by the person Bloom appoints to run our new facility. It would make sense to have the scouts and coaches all under the wing of one person, excluding the main squad which obviously is the responsibility of our new team manager.
Mervyn Day gets made redundant and his role within the club is absorbed by the person Bloom appoints to run our new facility. It would make sense to have the scouts and coaches all under the wing of one person, excluding the main squad which obviously is the responsibility of our new team manager. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

1:17pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.
Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion.
Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates?
So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps..
Or is Andy Naylor just on holiday and nothing is really happening anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper?[/p][/quote]Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.[/p][/quote]Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion. Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates? So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps..[/p][/quote]Or is Andy Naylor just on holiday and nothing is really happening anyway. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

1:30pm Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mervyn Day gets made redundant and his role within the club is absorbed by the person Bloom appoints to run our new facility. It would make sense to have the scouts and coaches all under the wing of one person, excluding the main squad which obviously is the responsibility of our new team manager.
At this rate there will be no manager and no players to manage.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mervyn Day gets made redundant and his role within the club is absorbed by the person Bloom appoints to run our new facility. It would make sense to have the scouts and coaches all under the wing of one person, excluding the main squad which obviously is the responsibility of our new team manager.[/p][/quote]At this rate there will be no manager and no players to manage. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -3

1:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Andrea Orlandigasm wrote:
It's sad to hear Andrea now talking about "Brighton" rather than "we" :-(
In the absence of any real news about the manager, please can Brian contact Andrea again and get some photos of him wearing very little on a beach? Thank you
The Argus would have had numerous chances to get the beach snaps, he aint being doing much over the last year.
[quote][p][bold]Andrea Orlandigasm[/bold] wrote: It's sad to hear Andrea now talking about "Brighton" rather than "we" :-( In the absence of any real news about the manager, please can Brian contact Andrea again and get some photos of him wearing very little on a beach? Thank you[/p][/quote]The Argus would have had numerous chances to get the beach snaps, he aint being doing much over the last year. ringtone
  • Score: -2

1:42pm Mon 2 Jun 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!).
I think the goalkeeping coach has left already.
I also think that the so called "fitness coach" who joined with OG has also left!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Yes the Albion are obviously having a clear out/reorganisation ready for the new regime.Next to go will probably be NJ when the new manager is appointed as well as the goalkeeping coach who joined with OG -(forgotten his name!).[/p][/quote]I think the goalkeeping coach has left already.[/p][/quote]I also think that the so called "fitness coach" who joined with OG has also left! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Brenden Rodgers is no fool so if he thinks Lambert can do a job for Liverpool then good luck to both, but I really don't quite understand this signing.

The report on Southampton now looking to replace Lambert with Ulloa looks right on the money side of things, four million in and maybe six or a bit more out, but is that why the speculation about Ulloa exists, along with the fact that Ulloa is south coast based so an easy move for the player.

I can see why Southampton might be, 'thought' to be considering a move for Ulloa, but there is a big difference between newpaper speculation, and dumping 6M+ on the table. For me right now I can't place too much belief in the rumour, not when other targets are out there with better predigrees for simillar money.
Brenden Rodgers is no fool so if he thinks Lambert can do a job for Liverpool then good luck to both, but I really don't quite understand this signing. The report on Southampton now looking to replace Lambert with Ulloa looks right on the money side of things, four million in and maybe six or a bit more out, but is that why the speculation about Ulloa exists, along with the fact that Ulloa is south coast based so an easy move for the player. I can see why Southampton might be, 'thought' to be considering a move for Ulloa, but there is a big difference between newpaper speculation, and dumping 6M+ on the table. For me right now I can't place too much belief in the rumour, not when other targets are out there with better predigrees for simillar money. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Neville wrote:
Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer.
I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.
Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?
Larry May was the main reason we were able to stay up as a second division club after just getting promotion from the old third division. We lost our first 8 (I believe - could be more) games after getting promoted. The club spent £100,000 on taking Larry May from Leicester City and he was a magnificent signing and a wonderful character. I believe his young son is a goalkeeper with the younger squad. Good luck Larry - wherever you go. I could imagine you may have found things hard to witness coming from you experienced back ground.

It does seem that with Mervyn Day also leaving the real experienced pros are gradually being fazed out.

Interesting that it's felt necessary. Is there a belief that old attitudes no longer work in football? When I see the most successful managers around most of them seem to operate under the 'old way' and have years if experience . Even the younger successful ones like , Brendan Rogers, absolutely refuse to work with a Director of Football making the football decisions.

I really hope we are not witnessing an attitude of 'the money men know best' cos normally they don't ! Works best when each acknowledges the others value and keep strict boundaries and demarcation lines.
You are right, Liverpool don't operate as such with a Director of Football; they have a committee, which includes the Manager, Managing Director and Head of Recruitment.
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Continuing stream of people leaving but no one coming in,starting to become a concern.Cannot be doing much good for the players morale and pre season looms nearer. I see Larry May has also left the club, a week ago or so, as well.[/p][/quote]Sorry Neville, but who's Larry May?[/p][/quote]Larry May was the main reason we were able to stay up as a second division club after just getting promotion from the old third division. We lost our first 8 (I believe - could be more) games after getting promoted. The club spent £100,000 on taking Larry May from Leicester City and he was a magnificent signing and a wonderful character. I believe his young son is a goalkeeper with the younger squad. Good luck Larry - wherever you go. I could imagine you may have found things hard to witness coming from you experienced back ground. It does seem that with Mervyn Day also leaving the real experienced pros are gradually being fazed out. Interesting that it's felt necessary. Is there a belief that old attitudes no longer work in football? When I see the most successful managers around most of them seem to operate under the 'old way' and have years if experience . Even the younger successful ones like , Brendan Rogers, absolutely refuse to work with a Director of Football making the football decisions. I really hope we are not witnessing an attitude of 'the money men know best' cos normally they don't ! Works best when each acknowledges the others value and keep strict boundaries and demarcation lines.[/p][/quote]You are right, Liverpool don't operate as such with a Director of Football; they have a committee, which includes the Manager, Managing Director and Head of Recruitment. dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

2:06pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

2:28pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
I guess Jones would leave or change roles. I can't see the club claiming to be willing to spend top dollar getting the right man then scuppering the deal by insisting Jones be part of the deal.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]I guess Jones would leave or change roles. I can't see the club claiming to be willing to spend top dollar getting the right man then scuppering the deal by insisting Jones be part of the deal. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

2:30pm Mon 2 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
What I don't get is we have a meaningless story from a player who has been released and a single line at the end about the Head of Scouting and Recruitment job being made redundant.
That means there won't be a direct replacement in terms of exact job title and job description, which I'd suggest is rather more important to our future planning than AO's Ulloa love-in?
Surely the question that needs to be asked is 'what happens now'? Is scouting and recruitment to be handled by the DOF? It may not be as populist, but In the context of the manager situation, this must merit a bigger reflection than just a single sentence at the end of a story that, in truth, informs us of absolutely nothing?????
I have some recollection of Oscar being quoted in the Argus when he left as saying that there were too many people involved in the recruiting process. So perhaps the club has taken his comment on board and that Day being made redundant is a step to address his point.
Interesting that the Sun is reporting that Southampton want Ulloa to replace Lambert. So potentially there is the prospect of a 'bidding war' between Leicester and Saints for Ulloa. I wonder if any other clubs eg Sunderland will enter the picture ? I am pleased that Ulloa's contract still has 3 years to run which should ensure that we receive the full reported £7 million 'release' fee should he move on which I hope does not happen.
Mark by the Sea I am disappointed to read your comment that Sherwood has turned down the Albion although there are other class prospective Managers out there.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: What I don't get is we have a meaningless story from a player who has been released and a single line at the end about the Head of Scouting and Recruitment job being made redundant. That means there won't be a direct replacement in terms of exact job title and job description, which I'd suggest is rather more important to our future planning than AO's Ulloa love-in? Surely the question that needs to be asked is 'what happens now'? Is scouting and recruitment to be handled by the DOF? It may not be as populist, but In the context of the manager situation, this must merit a bigger reflection than just a single sentence at the end of a story that, in truth, informs us of absolutely nothing?????[/p][/quote]I have some recollection of Oscar being quoted in the Argus when he left as saying that there were too many people involved in the recruiting process. So perhaps the club has taken his comment on board and that Day being made redundant is a step to address his point. Interesting that the Sun is reporting that Southampton want Ulloa to replace Lambert. So potentially there is the prospect of a 'bidding war' between Leicester and Saints for Ulloa. I wonder if any other clubs eg Sunderland will enter the picture ? I am pleased that Ulloa's contract still has 3 years to run which should ensure that we receive the full reported £7 million 'release' fee should he move on which I hope does not happen. Mark by the Sea I am disappointed to read your comment that Sherwood has turned down the Albion although there are other class prospective Managers out there. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

2:33pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

I can't help thinking that there is a possibility that the appointment of a new manager at Celtic, and maybe to a lesser degree at Sotuhampton, is having a baring on who comes to us. Celtic and Brighton seem to be fishing in the same pool, with Celtic having the better bait. Once Celtic make an appointment, ours could follow swiftly. With the exeption of Sherwood, I really don't think that too many of our options would be the first choice of Southampton.
I can't help thinking that there is a possibility that the appointment of a new manager at Celtic, and maybe to a lesser degree at Sotuhampton, is having a baring on who comes to us. Celtic and Brighton seem to be fishing in the same pool, with Celtic having the better bait. Once Celtic make an appointment, ours could follow swiftly. With the exeption of Sherwood, I really don't think that too many of our options would be the first choice of Southampton. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else!
It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout !
I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton .
I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job!
This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!!
Being told about TS is one thing, the important thing is, who is doing the telling. What you have been told might well be correct but didn't someone also tell you that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract. Again this might be exactly right, it wouldn't surprise me if it is, but the press is not supporting this view, all they say is that the club value him nearer 10 million.

With Leicester reportedly having offered 5 million, and now it is reported that Southampton might have an interest, a 7 million trigger should be activated quite quickly.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else! It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout ! I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton . I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job! This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!![/p][/quote]Being told about TS is one thing, the important thing is, who is doing the telling. What you have been told might well be correct but didn't someone also tell you that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract. Again this might be exactly right, it wouldn't surprise me if it is, but the press is not supporting this view, all they say is that the club value him nearer 10 million. With Leicester reportedly having offered 5 million, and now it is reported that Southampton might have an interest, a 7 million trigger should be activated quite quickly. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:55pm Mon 2 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Is the Argus in the habit of seeking out former players who are on holiday to obtain their opinions?
It could be an 'I'm still available, come and get me' approach from Andrea, the significant phrase being, “If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased.”

If Mervyn Day has scouted some fantastic players during his time with B&HA, the Club has omitted to sign them.

I have found a new role at the Club for Nathan Jones, - 'Head of Communications'.
Is the Argus in the habit of seeking out former players who are on holiday to obtain their opinions? It could be an 'I'm still available, come and get me' approach from Andrea, the significant phrase being, “If I have options to come back to England I would be really pleased.” If Mervyn Day has scouted some fantastic players during his time with B&HA, the Club has omitted to sign them. I have found a new role at the Club for Nathan Jones, - 'Head of Communications'. gordongull
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Hampshire Gull says...

I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us.
I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us. Hampshire Gull
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Hampshire Gull wrote:
I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us.
Someone posted this info yesterday, and if true, I am a tad surprised. Have we not just spent 30 million building a facility designed to unearth new talent and then bring them on for later use? Walton would be someone for the future for Arsenal, exactly what we are supposed to be doing so why move him on.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire Gull[/bold] wrote: I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us.[/p][/quote]Someone posted this info yesterday, and if true, I am a tad surprised. Have we not just spent 30 million building a facility designed to unearth new talent and then bring them on for later use? Walton would be someone for the future for Arsenal, exactly what we are supposed to be doing so why move him on. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

3:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Aye Aye says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hampshire Gull wrote:
I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us.
Someone posted this info yesterday, and if true, I am a tad surprised. Have we not just spent 30 million building a facility designed to unearth new talent and then bring them on for later use? Walton would be someone for the future for Arsenal, exactly what we are supposed to be doing so why move him on.
From GiveMeSport website:

"Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger wants to bring Brighton goalkeeper Christian Walton to the club, according to The Mirror.

The England youth star, who is just 18-years-old, has gained many admirers in recent time, with a number of Premier League clubs reportedly interested in his signature.

And now it appears that Gunners boss Wenger wants to bring him to The Emirates as he plans to groom him into the club's No.1 keeper.

Arsenal are currently short in the goalkeeping ranks after Lukasz Fabianski departed the club for Swansea City at the end of last month. 28-year-old Emiliano Viviano is also set to depart north London and return to Italian outfit Palermo after a loan spell with the Gunners.

It's unlikely that Walton will challenge for the No.1 spot at Arsenal anytime soon, however it appears that Wenger wants him to be at the club for the long term.

It remains to be seen as to whether Arsenal can secure the player's services from Brighton in the near future, but he certainly looks an exciting prospect. "
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hampshire Gull[/bold] wrote: I see reports out there Arsenal want to sign Walton from us.[/p][/quote]Someone posted this info yesterday, and if true, I am a tad surprised. Have we not just spent 30 million building a facility designed to unearth new talent and then bring them on for later use? Walton would be someone for the future for Arsenal, exactly what we are supposed to be doing so why move him on.[/p][/quote]From GiveMeSport website: "Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger wants to bring Brighton goalkeeper Christian Walton to the club, according to The Mirror. The England youth star, who is just 18-years-old, has gained many admirers in recent time, with a number of Premier League clubs reportedly interested in his signature. And now it appears that Gunners boss Wenger wants to bring him to The Emirates as he plans to groom him into the club's No.1 keeper. Arsenal are currently short in the goalkeeping ranks after Lukasz Fabianski departed the club for Swansea City at the end of last month. 28-year-old Emiliano Viviano is also set to depart north London and return to Italian outfit Palermo after a loan spell with the Gunners. It's unlikely that Walton will challenge for the No.1 spot at Arsenal anytime soon, however it appears that Wenger wants him to be at the club for the long term. It remains to be seen as to whether Arsenal can secure the player's services from Brighton in the near future, but he certainly looks an exciting prospect. " Aye Aye
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: -3

3:56pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
If it were to be Jones I would have thought he would be in place by now, why wait when the club knows who the other contenders are. I don't see Jones getting the job.
My money is still on Hughton.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]If it were to be Jones I would have thought he would be in place by now, why wait when the club knows who the other contenders are. I don't see Jones getting the job. My money is still on Hughton. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

4:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
If it were to be Jones I would have thought he would be in place by now, why wait when the club knows who the other contenders are. I don't see Jones getting the job.
My money is still on Hughton.
If we can't get Mackay then it has to be Hughton, he doesn't seem to be popular with a lot of supporters but he is definitely one of the best available managers out there and should do a good job for us. Let's just hope the board secure him before someone else does.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]If it were to be Jones I would have thought he would be in place by now, why wait when the club knows who the other contenders are. I don't see Jones getting the job. My money is still on Hughton.[/p][/quote]If we can't get Mackay then it has to be Hughton, he doesn't seem to be popular with a lot of supporters but he is definitely one of the best available managers out there and should do a good job for us. Let's just hope the board secure him before someone else does. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 1

4:48pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Guernsey gull says...

Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ! Guernsey gull
  • Score: -2

4:49pm Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for?
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for? dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

4:53pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Guernsey gull wrote:
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?
[quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ![/p][/quote]Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Tommy11 wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.
Do you buy the paper?
Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.
Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion.
Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates?
So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps..
Or is Andy Naylor just on holiday and nothing is really happening anyway.
A bit of both. It does go "thin" when AN goes on his hols but I know for a fact that the club are not happy at all with the editorial he did a week or two ago.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: Argus paper - your rubbish!! I read about Day yesterday in the Mirror - how have you not heard about this? Can someone please comeout and admit that the Argus have been banned from the club or something, as you seem to know nothing! its so frustrating!!! your stories are based on bookmakers odds, snippets from other papers etc etc - how are you being paid?? Totally useless.[/p][/quote]Do you buy the paper?[/p][/quote]Yea do you? I know there is other BHA material in there, but that's pants too.[/p][/quote]Well from an Argus perspective, I only have the website to update me and I have to agree with Tommy that in general terms the level of information is pretty poor. I'm not talking about obvious 'filler' material when there's nothing more to say, but the lack of insight does seem to point towards an absence of a meaningful relationship with the club, although that's just my opinion. Since the end of the season, most stories have, as has been suggested, been from third party sources and even when Paul Barber was quoted a week or so back about the ongoing manager search, it was prefaced with a reference to him saying it to the club's own website. That would suggest they don't have an open line into the club, even for general updates? So have they annoyed the club in some way or is the club not assisting them? Whatever the truth is, they do seem to be feeding off scraps..[/p][/quote]Or is Andy Naylor just on holiday and nothing is really happening anyway.[/p][/quote]A bit of both. It does go "thin" when AN goes on his hols but I know for a fact that the club are not happy at all with the editorial he did a week or two ago. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"?
Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"? Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

5:39pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
Speak for yourself. I will be VERY surprised.

In fact, my eyes will pop out on cartoon springs as I read the news.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself. I will be VERY surprised. In fact, my eyes will pop out on cartoon springs as I read the news. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 1

5:42pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Guernsey gull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?
Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo .
No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. !
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ![/p][/quote]Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?[/p][/quote]Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo . No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. ! Guernsey gull
  • Score: -1

5:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Guernsey gull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?
Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo .
No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. !
"Listen matey.."? - have I tumbled into the set of Morse?

Ever heard of a club putting a higher-than-expected valuation on a player to scare of suitors? Still, keep your pecker up, eh!
[quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ![/p][/quote]Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?[/p][/quote]Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo . No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. ![/p][/quote]"Listen matey.."? - have I tumbled into the set of Morse? Ever heard of a club putting a higher-than-expected valuation on a player to scare of suitors? Still, keep your pecker up, eh! Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"?
Was an 'inside pages' editorial on Oscar's frustration with signings. Think it was on the Friday before the play-off final.

Re: known for fact club not happy, a friend of mine spoke to a member of staff well-placed at the club a couple of days ago. Didn't say if Argus have had any sort of ban or restriction on info though.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"?[/p][/quote]Was an 'inside pages' editorial on Oscar's frustration with signings. Think it was on the Friday before the play-off final. Re: known for fact club not happy, a friend of mine spoke to a member of staff well-placed at the club a couple of days ago. Didn't say if Argus have had any sort of ban or restriction on info though. Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 2

5:47pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Guernsey gull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?
Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo .
No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. !
Early season spirit? Blimey, I'm still reading my Derby programme! Give it time!
[quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ![/p][/quote]Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?[/p][/quote]Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo . No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. ![/p][/quote]Early season spirit? Blimey, I'm still reading my Derby programme! Give it time! Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 4

6:00pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Oscar's Chin wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"?
Was an 'inside pages' editorial on Oscar's frustration with signings. Think it was on the Friday before the play-off final.

Re: known for fact club not happy, a friend of mine spoke to a member of staff well-placed at the club a couple of days ago. Didn't say if Argus have had any sort of ban or restriction on info though.
Cheers.

If the Argus were banned or restricted they'd make bl00dy sure everyone knew about it :-)
[quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Which editorial in particular? And "know for a fact"?[/p][/quote]Was an 'inside pages' editorial on Oscar's frustration with signings. Think it was on the Friday before the play-off final. Re: known for fact club not happy, a friend of mine spoke to a member of staff well-placed at the club a couple of days ago. Didn't say if Argus have had any sort of ban or restriction on info though.[/p][/quote]Cheers. If the Argus were banned or restricted they'd make bl00dy sure everyone knew about it :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Mon 2 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

Oscar's Chin wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Guernsey gull wrote:
Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league.
Wake up Albion management ! !
Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?
Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo .
No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. !
Early season spirit? Blimey, I'm still reading my Derby programme! Give it time!
LOL
[quote][p][bold]Oscar's Chin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guernsey gull[/bold] wrote: Surely we can't sell the best centre forward we'd have had since Fred Binney, blimey at this rate we will be joining the local 5 a side league. Wake up Albion management ! ![/p][/quote]Wake up? They haven't actually sold him yet, have they?[/p][/quote]Listen Matey, if BHA have put a valuation on him, ,bet your life that any bid near it, and bye bye Leo . No manager, no players, no early season spirit, same as last year I fear. ![/p][/quote]Early season spirit? Blimey, I'm still reading my Derby programme! Give it time![/p][/quote]LOL dave from bexill
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I can't help thinking that there is a possibility that the appointment of a new manager at Celtic, and maybe to a lesser degree at Sotuhampton, is having a baring on who comes to us. Celtic and Brighton seem to be fishing in the same pool, with Celtic having the better bait. Once Celtic make an appointment, ours could follow swiftly. With the exeption of Sherwood, I really don't think that too many of our options would be the first choice of Southampton.
Don't know about a 'baring'but it might have a 'bearing'. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I can't help thinking that there is a possibility that the appointment of a new manager at Celtic, and maybe to a lesser degree at Sotuhampton, is having a baring on who comes to us. Celtic and Brighton seem to be fishing in the same pool, with Celtic having the better bait. Once Celtic make an appointment, ours could follow swiftly. With the exeption of Sherwood, I really don't think that too many of our options would be the first choice of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Don't know about a 'baring'but it might have a 'bearing'. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 0

6:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else!
It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout !
I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton .
I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job!
This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!!
Being told about TS is one thing, the important thing is, who is doing the telling. What you have been told might well be correct but didn't someone also tell you that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract. Again this might be exactly right, it wouldn't surprise me if it is, but the press is not supporting this view, all they say is that the club value him nearer 10 million.

With Leicester reportedly having offered 5 million, and now it is reported that Southampton might have an interest, a 7 million trigger should be activated quite quickly.
Vegas you constantly miss points that are pretty obvious , if the Albion wanted 7 million then they would ask for ten,
The sell on clause was quoted to me ,
.. The TS comment comes from a physio who works for spurs on tendon and hamstring injuries, he is a leading expert on PRP , this is something that could help Buckley .. If ulloa has a release clause , that does not mean a club can't offer more !
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting that mervyn day has been made redundant, Does that mean he is not being replaced? Usually making a member of staff redundant means you are not replacing him? Sacking is something else! It seems odd to get rid of him before a announcement is made? Or is this jones new job? I can't believe we are going to save money not having a chief scout ! I hope we are about to hear Liam Brady or someone of his stature being announced as " head of academy and recruitment" but I think jones is a better bet as chief scout! As long as they have played in Wales or been at charlton . I was told yesterday TS turned down the Brighton job! This is week 4 since OG resigned, time for some news!![/p][/quote]Being told about TS is one thing, the important thing is, who is doing the telling. What you have been told might well be correct but didn't someone also tell you that Ulloa has a 7M release clause in his contract. Again this might be exactly right, it wouldn't surprise me if it is, but the press is not supporting this view, all they say is that the club value him nearer 10 million. With Leicester reportedly having offered 5 million, and now it is reported that Southampton might have an interest, a 7 million trigger should be activated quite quickly.[/p][/quote]Vegas you constantly miss points that are pretty obvious , if the Albion wanted 7 million then they would ask for ten, The sell on clause was quoted to me , .. The TS comment comes from a physio who works for spurs on tendon and hamstring injuries, he is a leading expert on PRP , this is something that could help Buckley .. If ulloa has a release clause , that does not mean a club can't offer more ! mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

7:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer..
The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer.. The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million. mark by the sea
  • Score: -1

7:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer..
The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.
Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him.
As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer.. The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.[/p][/quote]Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him. As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.' VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

8:25pm Mon 2 Jun 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Right from the get-go, I imagine.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Right from the get-go, I imagine. gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:27pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer..
The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.
Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him.
As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'
Leicester are hoping we will take less money!
That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go!
What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less..
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer.. The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.[/p][/quote]Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him. As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'[/p][/quote]Leicester are hoping we will take less money! That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go! What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less.. mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

8:35pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer..
The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.
Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him.
As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'
Leicester are hoping we will take less money!
That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go!
What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less..
Vegas let's say saints , Leicester , and Celtic wanted ulloa, ..
Leicester bid 7 million and that would mean we have to sell, however if we thought saints would top 8 million or Celtic 9 .. We could offer ulloa a percentage if the bids go higher over say 10 days, if not he can join Leicester... The reason I mentioned Celtic is they were watching the Albion late last season? Either TK or Ulloa in my opinion.. Ulloa could be playing champions league earning top money , so why jump at the first club to wave the cash, both parties could do better out of the deal
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer.. The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.[/p][/quote]Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him. As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'[/p][/quote]Leicester are hoping we will take less money! That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go! What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less..[/p][/quote]Vegas let's say saints , Leicester , and Celtic wanted ulloa, .. Leicester bid 7 million and that would mean we have to sell, however if we thought saints would top 8 million or Celtic 9 .. We could offer ulloa a percentage if the bids go higher over say 10 days, if not he can join Leicester... The reason I mentioned Celtic is they were watching the Albion late last season? Either TK or Ulloa in my opinion.. Ulloa could be playing champions league earning top money , so why jump at the first club to wave the cash, both parties could do better out of the deal mark by the sea
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9:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap.

Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.
Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer..
The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.
Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him.
As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'
Leicester are hoping we will take less money!
That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go!
What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less..
Vegas let's say saints , Leicester , and Celtic wanted ulloa, ..
Leicester bid 7 million and that would mean we have to sell, however if we thought saints would top 8 million or Celtic 9 .. We could offer ulloa a percentage if the bids go higher over say 10 days, if not he can join Leicester... The reason I mentioned Celtic is they were watching the Albion late last season? Either TK or Ulloa in my opinion.. Ulloa could be playing champions league earning top money , so why jump at the first club to wave the cash, both parties could do better out of the deal
Mark what you say might have some legs but we have to assume that there is indeed a 7 million release clause, I am not certain that one exists.
Bidding less and unsettling Ulloa is a possibility, but that would only owrk if a release clause is not in place for if one is, then Leicester have to reach it, no matter what Ulloa wants. Ulloa could put in for a transfer, lose his percentage of the sale, but that would only go to increase what we get for him. Slightly lower selling price but nothing paid to Ulloa, but his price will still be 6 or more millions.

As I say, I am not convinced that the 7 million release figure is correct, if it is, and if we get a bidding war, then it's good that the sale price starts high as we can certainly put that money to good use. Should Leicester come back with an improved offer, and if we reject it, perhaps it would help if the club gave just a tad more info behind the rejection.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark not every deal has to be a negotiation, especially if the seller would rather not sell. We could simply say, 7 million, not a penny less, more could come from others bidding, isn't that an obvious repost to those wishing to buy on the cheap. Claude, sometimes I use what I term as, americanisms, thru, color, baring, winningist, gonna ect, but thanks for your correction. You should hear me talk, you would be correcting thruout the conversation.[/p][/quote]Er no Vegas , the release clause is guess what? It's a figure the club have to sell him for, just like the Grabban deal we met the clause figure of 1m they would have had to sell , however might Bournemouth blew us out of the water with a offer to the player, the Albion could have countered that offer.. The way forward to get more for the player if a bidding war started was offer ulloa a fee to not accept the first offer over 7 million.[/p][/quote]Mark, if we don't want him to go, and I am sure the club doesn't want him to, then we state a price that a buyer must pay. I am not convinced that a 7 million trigger exists, if it did Leicester would have been told, just as we were about Grabban's release clause. Unless the suits at Leicester have lost the plot, why would they only reach a bid of 5 million at their third or fourth attempt to buy him. As for your last sentence I am not sure what you are trying to convey, what do you mean by, 'offer Ulloa a fee.'[/p][/quote]Leicester are hoping we will take less money! That's easy to work out with the Albion in disarray .. The club cannot refuse if someone wants to meet a steel out clause fee, and the player wants to go! What Leicester are doing is trying to unsettle the player and hope he jumps in with a transfer request.. They could then pick him up for less..[/p][/quote]Vegas let's say saints , Leicester , and Celtic wanted ulloa, .. Leicester bid 7 million and that would mean we have to sell, however if we thought saints would top 8 million or Celtic 9 .. We could offer ulloa a percentage if the bids go higher over say 10 days, if not he can join Leicester... The reason I mentioned Celtic is they were watching the Albion late last season? Either TK or Ulloa in my opinion.. Ulloa could be playing champions league earning top money , so why jump at the first club to wave the cash, both parties could do better out of the deal[/p][/quote]Mark what you say might have some legs but we have to assume that there is indeed a 7 million release clause, I am not certain that one exists. Bidding less and unsettling Ulloa is a possibility, but that would only owrk if a release clause is not in place for if one is, then Leicester have to reach it, no matter what Ulloa wants. Ulloa could put in for a transfer, lose his percentage of the sale, but that would only go to increase what we get for him. Slightly lower selling price but nothing paid to Ulloa, but his price will still be 6 or more millions. As I say, I am not convinced that the 7 million release figure is correct, if it is, and if we get a bidding war, then it's good that the sale price starts high as we can certainly put that money to good use. Should Leicester come back with an improved offer, and if we reject it, perhaps it would help if the club gave just a tad more info behind the rejection. VegasSeagull
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9:17pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Where did this £7m release clause story come from? Ex-pat Arnie
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9:20pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Where did this £7m release clause story come from?[/p][/quote]Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark? VegasSeagull
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9:23pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?
Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Where did this £7m release clause story come from?[/p][/quote]Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour. Ex-pat Arnie
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9:27pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?
Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.
Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Where did this £7m release clause story come from?[/p][/quote]Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.[/p][/quote]Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club. VegasSeagull
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9:37pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?
Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.
Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club.
I did mention the figure of 7 million when I was introduced to Leicester head coach in January at the Amex, I was with former saints academy coach Andy Ritchie , ( not the Albion Ritchie ) he knew Steve Walsh, the two of them had a 10 - 15 minute conversation out of my ear range, when Andy returned he said he was watching ulloa, we then discussed over a beer his value .. At that point a 7 million pound clause was mentioned,,
I am surprised Arnie can't remember that? As he doubted Leicester were interested and the 7 million pound figure .
Don't forget Bridcutt asked for a transfer after silly offers from Sunderland.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Where did this £7m release clause story come from?[/p][/quote]Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.[/p][/quote]Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club.[/p][/quote]I did mention the figure of 7 million when I was introduced to Leicester head coach in January at the Amex, I was with former saints academy coach Andy Ritchie , ( not the Albion Ritchie ) he knew Steve Walsh, the two of them had a 10 - 15 minute conversation out of my ear range, when Andy returned he said he was watching ulloa, we then discussed over a beer his value .. At that point a 7 million pound clause was mentioned,, I am surprised Arnie can't remember that? As he doubted Leicester were interested and the 7 million pound figure . Don't forget Bridcutt asked for a transfer after silly offers from Sunderland. mark by the sea
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9:58pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something.
Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something. Ex-pat Arnie
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10:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something.
How can I remember a story 4-5 months ago, are you saying you don't remember?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something.[/p][/quote]How can I remember a story 4-5 months ago, are you saying you don't remember? mark by the sea
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10:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

dave from bexill wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for?
To be fair he's been a stalwart assistant and a good media communicator. It must count for something.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for?[/p][/quote]To be fair he's been a stalwart assistant and a good media communicator. It must count for something. East of CrawleyDown
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11:20pm Mon 2 Jun 14

gordongull says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for?
To be fair he's been a stalwart assistant and a good media communicator. It must count for something.
It could mean he is ready to kick on to the next level.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]Exactly what service to the club does jones need rewarding for?[/p][/quote]To be fair he's been a stalwart assistant and a good media communicator. It must count for something.[/p][/quote]It could mean he is ready to kick on to the next level. gordongull
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11:25pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Where did this £7m release clause story come from?
Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?
Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.
Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club.
I did mention the figure of 7 million when I was introduced to Leicester head coach in January at the Amex, I was with former saints academy coach Andy Ritchie , ( not the Albion Ritchie ) he knew Steve Walsh, the two of them had a 10 - 15 minute conversation out of my ear range, when Andy returned he said he was watching ulloa, we then discussed over a beer his value .. At that point a 7 million pound clause was mentioned,,
I am surprised Arnie can't remember that? As he doubted Leicester were interested and the 7 million pound figure .
Don't forget Bridcutt asked for a transfer after silly offers from Sunderland.
You are right about Bridders, but I am sure that I read somewhere that we got just over 4 million for him, which I think was the generally accepted value for him.
Mark that for confirming the origin of the 7M figure.

What the guy told you might well be right, I am not saying it isn't, but it does beggar the question, if Andy knew of the release cause, then surely Leicester know of it too so why bid so low, giving Ulloa the jitters is not going to see his price drop below the release clause. We are told that they have made three offers, the last being 5M, that tells us that the first two offers were lower, maybe 3M and then 4M, all this whilst knowing that 7M is the magic number.

We stood firm ont he Bridcutt deal, I see no reason why we won't on any deal for Ulloa. It might be that the 7M that Andy was talking of was a valuation rather than a release clause, he might have given you a slight bum steer.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Where did this £7m release clause story come from?[/p][/quote]Mark will correct me if I am wrong but I believe this is what was told to Mark some weeks ago, and Mark then passed that info onto those that use this forum, is that right Mark?[/p][/quote]Cheers Vegas. Just checking if it was a verifiable fact or rumour.[/p][/quote]Ex-Pat I could be wrong, so don't take it as gospel, I just have this vague memory from when we first starting talking about this, as I say, perhaps Mark will shed some light on this, it could well be a fact but one not as yet made public by the club.[/p][/quote]I did mention the figure of 7 million when I was introduced to Leicester head coach in January at the Amex, I was with former saints academy coach Andy Ritchie , ( not the Albion Ritchie ) he knew Steve Walsh, the two of them had a 10 - 15 minute conversation out of my ear range, when Andy returned he said he was watching ulloa, we then discussed over a beer his value .. At that point a 7 million pound clause was mentioned,, I am surprised Arnie can't remember that? As he doubted Leicester were interested and the 7 million pound figure . Don't forget Bridcutt asked for a transfer after silly offers from Sunderland.[/p][/quote]You are right about Bridders, but I am sure that I read somewhere that we got just over 4 million for him, which I think was the generally accepted value for him. Mark that for confirming the origin of the 7M figure. What the guy told you might well be right, I am not saying it isn't, but it does beggar the question, if Andy knew of the release cause, then surely Leicester know of it too so why bid so low, giving Ulloa the jitters is not going to see his price drop below the release clause. We are told that they have made three offers, the last being 5M, that tells us that the first two offers were lower, maybe 3M and then 4M, all this whilst knowing that 7M is the magic number. We stood firm ont he Bridcutt deal, I see no reason why we won't on any deal for Ulloa. It might be that the 7M that Andy was talking of was a valuation rather than a release clause, he might have given you a slight bum steer. VegasSeagull
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11:26pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something.
How can I remember a story 4-5 months ago, are you saying you don't remember?
You don't remember but you expect me to? No, I don't remember some specifics.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: Mark, can you remind me in which story you first broke the news of Leicester ready to buy Ulloa for £7m? I need to check something.[/p][/quote]How can I remember a story 4-5 months ago, are you saying you don't remember?[/p][/quote]You don't remember but you expect me to? No, I don't remember some specifics. Ex-pat Arnie
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11:34pm Mon 2 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Well another day has past for you guys and we continue to wait, maybe tomorrow will give us an answer.
I still have a gut feeling that it's Hughton, him or someone not even on the radar.
Well another day has past for you guys and we continue to wait, maybe tomorrow will give us an answer. I still have a gut feeling that it's Hughton, him or someone not even on the radar. VegasSeagull
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11:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Well another day has past for you guys and we continue to wait, maybe tomorrow will give us an answer.
I still have a gut feeling that it's Hughton, him or someone not even on the radar.
That'[s more specific than my gut feeling which is that it's Hughton, Clarke, or possibly someone else :-)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Well another day has past for you guys and we continue to wait, maybe tomorrow will give us an answer. I still have a gut feeling that it's Hughton, him or someone not even on the radar.[/p][/quote]That'[s more specific than my gut feeling which is that it's Hughton, Clarke, or possibly someone else :-) Ex-pat Arnie
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12:44am Tue 3 Jun 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

East of CrawleyDown wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a thought.

'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.
Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.
Please no! Just watch the way he interviews its so obvious he's out of his depth. I can imagine he wasn't the greatest help to Oscar.....for all his limitations - at least Charlie Oatway kept vocally very supportive of his guvnor Gus! More than Jones did for Oscar.
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a thought. 'IF,' Brighton are going to appoint a new facility supremo, this could enter into the decision as to who to appoint as team manager, maybe in part delaying the process. If there is indeed going to be a new facility supremo it would make sense to give the job to Jones thus freeing up our new manager to bring in his own number two. If not Jones, if it is considered that he is not the right man for the job, then what happens to Jones, does the new guy get told, 'this is your assistant,' that might not go down too well.[/p][/quote]Don't be too surprised if jones gets the managers job, he's not everyones cup of tea of course but the club might want to reward him for his service to the club and he does know the club inside out.[/p][/quote]Please no! Just watch the way he interviews its so obvious he's out of his depth. I can imagine he wasn't the greatest help to Oscar.....for all his limitations - at least Charlie Oatway kept vocally very supportive of his guvnor Gus! More than Jones did for Oscar. WisdomSpeaks
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