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No pressure but Bloom believes Hyypia will have another competitive squad to target top six

The Argus: Tony Bloom believes Hyypia will have another competitive squad to work with Tony Bloom believes Hyypia will have another competitive squad to work with

Albion chairman Tony Bloom is not demanding a top six finish from Sam Hyypia in his first season as manager.

But he is confident the Finn will have a budget for wages and the right recruitment back-up to give him a chance.

The Seagulls finished tenth and fourth in the Championship under Gus Poyet and sixth last season under Oscar Garcia.

Bloom told The Argus: “Similar to the last three seasons we have had in the Championship we believe we will have a competitive and good squad.

“Our aim is to reach the Premier League. To do that you need to finish in the top six. You can have good luck or bad luck with injuries and certain situations.

“We will not put any pressure to say if it is not top six it is no good. I am confident Sami will get the best out of the players and if all goes well we will have a realistic chance of finishing the top six and a realistic chance of getting promoted every season we are in the Championship. That is our goal.”

The budget for player salaries was a bone of contention for both Poyet and Oscar as Albion play catch-up at the Amex after their financial disadvantages during the Withdean era in a division half-full of former Premier League clubs.

Bloom said: “This season ten clubs have parachute payments. Financially you cannot compete with them. Last season it was eight. That doesn’t mean in player salary terms we are below them, we were above at least one of them last year.

“We will have a very healthy budget again this season. Regardless of what it was at Withdean we will stick to it, and get the very best we can from whatever budget there is.”

The recruitment set-up was another source of irritation for Oscar but Bloom is convinced the structure under head of football David Burke, revised recently by making head scout Mervyn Day redundant, will deliver the players to make Albion genuine contenders.

He said: “I am very confident. Sami will be a big part of the process and communication will be key between Dave and his team, Sami and myself. I am confident we will get the players in before the start of the season we need which will give us the squad Sami needs to give us a chance of promotion.”

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5:26am Fri 13 Jun 14

albionbloke says...

Nice bit of cautious optimism Tony, good to see they appear to be taking another step forward in the long-term plan. Pleased to see that funds will be there and that Sami is having a say in player recruitment.
Nice bit of cautious optimism Tony, good to see they appear to be taking another step forward in the long-term plan. Pleased to see that funds will be there and that Sami is having a say in player recruitment. albionbloke
  • Score: 25

7:48am Fri 13 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning, Nice to here that we have a very healthy budget to spend let's some on a quality cb and hopefully get Ward back at left back, maybe a striker who can help us score some goals because last season we didn't score no where near enough goals, looking forward to seeing what players arrive!!
Up the Albion!!!!
Morning, Nice to here that we have a very healthy budget to spend let's some on a quality cb and hopefully get Ward back at left back, maybe a striker who can help us score some goals because last season we didn't score no where near enough goals, looking forward to seeing what players arrive!! Up the Albion!!!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 13

8:04am Fri 13 Jun 14

peterpan32 says...

The big Finn is now in place, took a while. Lets hope new players don't take as long as there will be more moaning to read through. More exciting times ahead. Never dull at the Albion.
The big Finn is now in place, took a while. Lets hope new players don't take as long as there will be more moaning to read through. More exciting times ahead. Never dull at the Albion. peterpan32
  • Score: 2

8:09am Fri 13 Jun 14

9 of us says...

Operate within your means irrespective of what others are doing and with patience we will achieve our aim.
We will get there, so enjoy the journey and let's all get behind the team and do our bit.
UTA
Operate within your means irrespective of what others are doing and with patience we will achieve our aim. We will get there, so enjoy the journey and let's all get behind the team and do our bit. UTA 9 of us
  • Score: 21

8:55am Fri 13 Jun 14

fatso says...

All the statements from everyone connected to the club seem to say that Sami's voice will be heard when signing players. However no one has actually said Sami has the final say and it worries me that the situation will be no different to previous seasons. I hope I am wrong.
All the statements from everyone connected to the club seem to say that Sami's voice will be heard when signing players. However no one has actually said Sami has the final say and it worries me that the situation will be no different to previous seasons. I hope I am wrong. fatso
  • Score: -5

9:24am Fri 13 Jun 14

the taffster says...

The recruitment of players should be samis responsibility and he should have the final word about who he thinks he needs...not Burke,....seems from previous managers there has been too much interference from above..till that stops were all doomed.remember cucumbers can't be bananas.
The recruitment of players should be samis responsibility and he should have the final word about who he thinks he needs...not Burke,....seems from previous managers there has been too much interference from above..till that stops were all doomed.remember cucumbers can't be bananas. the taffster
  • Score: -3

9:26am Fri 13 Jun 14

DuncanThickett says...

9 of us wrote:
Operate within your means irrespective of what others are doing and with patience we will achieve our aim.
We will get there, so enjoy the journey and let's all get behind the team and do our bit.
UTA
Spot on, you have hit the nail on the head! I'd rather have a club that is run within our means, and not have to worry about the consequences of over stretching funds.
[quote][p][bold]9 of us[/bold] wrote: Operate within your means irrespective of what others are doing and with patience we will achieve our aim. We will get there, so enjoy the journey and let's all get behind the team and do our bit. UTA[/p][/quote]Spot on, you have hit the nail on the head! I'd rather have a club that is run within our means, and not have to worry about the consequences of over stretching funds. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 13

9:31am Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA tug509
  • Score: 25

9:43am Fri 13 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB.
One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts.
Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal.
With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team.
On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks !
Upwards and Onwards for the Albion.
Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB. One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts. Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal. With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team. On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks ! Upwards and Onwards for the Albion. ballantrrae
  • Score: 16

11:00am Fri 13 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham. pjwilk
  • Score: -7

11:01am Fri 13 Jun 14

IKnowNowt says...

Can't wait for next season to see how we get on with the "Hyypinator".

But what do I know?

UTA
Can't wait for next season to see how we get on with the "Hyypinator". But what do I know? UTA IKnowNowt
  • Score: 1

11:17am Fri 13 Jun 14

dave from bexill says...

tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season dave from bexill
  • Score: 1

11:34am Fri 13 Jun 14

pte says...

TB has to say that to sell the unsold season tickets. If it's same budget as last season and we wait for the youngsters to come through then top 10 will be OK
TB has to say that to sell the unsold season tickets. If it's same budget as last season and we wait for the youngsters to come through then top 10 will be OK pte
  • Score: -9

11:37am Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

dave from bexill wrote:
tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
Thanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly ,
"Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season[/p][/quote]Thanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly , "Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA. tug509
  • Score: 4

11:49am Fri 13 Jun 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

tug509 says...


dave from bexill wrote:

tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly ,
"Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA.

Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.
tug509 says... dave from bexill wrote: tug509 wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly , "Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA. Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 12

12:00pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

dave from bexill wrote:
tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
I agree and stay Positive too.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season[/p][/quote]I agree and stay Positive too. ballantrrae
  • Score: 1

12:04pm Fri 13 Jun 14

SMF20 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB.
One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts.
Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal.
With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team.
On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks !
Upwards and Onwards for the Albion.
Spot on as always my friend.

Thinking forward to recruitment, I wonder how many new guys we should expect. In my mind we are down a big number of players but how many of them actually need replacing?

We have 2 keepers and so id guess that with Walton stepping up to potentially number 2, we need a No1 and a DS youngster. (2)

2 decent right backs subject to them both agreeing terms. (0)

2 young left backs and so I think we might need a more experienced head like Ward. (1)

2 good centre half's and so will definitely need to strengthen here. (2)

We have 3 decent wingers and so anticipate needing another, especially as Will and Kaz are injury prone (1)

Centre midfield looks strong with everyone fit but id opt to get Orlandi back and another creative guy. (2)

Up top we have 2 fantastic guys but we for sure need more firepower.(2)

I see that as 10 new guys very much needed and given that it is to replace 13/14 that have left for one reason or another then I think it looks realistic.

I know and respect that some people think we only need another 4 or 5 signings but given that the following players have gone, I wonder how you got to that number...

Kuz
Ward
Upson
Andrews
Lingard
David
Rodriguez,
Brez
Orlandi
Hoskins
Barnes
Bridcutt
El abd

Feeling much more positive no Sami is here.

UTA
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB. One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts. Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal. With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team. On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks ! Upwards and Onwards for the Albion.[/p][/quote]Spot on as always my friend. Thinking forward to recruitment, I wonder how many new guys we should expect. In my mind we are down a big number of players but how many of them actually need replacing? We have 2 keepers and so id guess that with Walton stepping up to potentially number 2, we need a No1 and a DS youngster. (2) 2 decent right backs subject to them both agreeing terms. (0) 2 young left backs and so I think we might need a more experienced head like Ward. (1) 2 good centre half's and so will definitely need to strengthen here. (2) We have 3 decent wingers and so anticipate needing another, especially as Will and Kaz are injury prone (1) Centre midfield looks strong with everyone fit but id opt to get Orlandi back and another creative guy. (2) Up top we have 2 fantastic guys but we for sure need more firepower.(2) I see that as 10 new guys very much needed and given that it is to replace 13/14 that have left for one reason or another then I think it looks realistic. I know and respect that some people think we only need another 4 or 5 signings but given that the following players have gone, I wonder how you got to that number... Kuz Ward Upson Andrews Lingard David Rodriguez, Brez Orlandi Hoskins Barnes Bridcutt El abd Feeling much more positive no Sami is here. UTA SMF20
  • Score: 2

12:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
tug509 says...


dave from bexill wrote:

tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly ,
"Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA.

Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.
I understand what your saying ,but football is to many an integral part of their lives ,me for one ,i have framed shirts around the house ,and there isn`t a room that doesn`t have memorabilia of some sort ,and i am very often in one of my 30+ shirts ,and to some that might be OTT ,but it`s a part of my life ,not my life ,and yes i do have a very understanding wife ,but she would tell me if it was that bad . The positives i get from the enjoyment The Albion gives me reflects on my whole family and friends ,the key is to keep the downs to yourself ,and unfortunately with me sometimes on here .
Football may be just another form of entertainment but The Albion is much more important than that :0) UTA
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: tug509 says... dave from bexill wrote: tug509 wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly , "Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA. Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.[/p][/quote]I understand what your saying ,but football is to many an integral part of their lives ,me for one ,i have framed shirts around the house ,and there isn`t a room that doesn`t have memorabilia of some sort ,and i am very often in one of my 30+ shirts ,and to some that might be OTT ,but it`s a part of my life ,not my life ,and yes i do have a very understanding wife ,but she would tell me if it was that bad . The positives i get from the enjoyment The Albion gives me reflects on my whole family and friends ,the key is to keep the downs to yourself ,and unfortunately with me sometimes on here . Football may be just another form of entertainment but The Albion is much more important than that :0) UTA tug509
  • Score: -1

12:54pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB.
One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts.
Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal.
With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team.
On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks !
Upwards and Onwards for the Albion.
Spot on as always my friend.

Thinking forward to recruitment, I wonder how many new guys we should expect. In my mind we are down a big number of players but how many of them actually need replacing?

We have 2 keepers and so id guess that with Walton stepping up to potentially number 2, we need a No1 and a DS youngster. (2)

2 decent right backs subject to them both agreeing terms. (0)

2 young left backs and so I think we might need a more experienced head like Ward. (1)

2 good centre half's and so will definitely need to strengthen here. (2)

We have 3 decent wingers and so anticipate needing another, especially as Will and Kaz are injury prone (1)

Centre midfield looks strong with everyone fit but id opt to get Orlandi back and another creative guy. (2)

Up top we have 2 fantastic guys but we for sure need more firepower.(2)

I see that as 10 new guys very much needed and given that it is to replace 13/14 that have left for one reason or another then I think it looks realistic.

I know and respect that some people think we only need another 4 or 5 signings but given that the following players have gone, I wonder how you got to that number...

Kuz
Ward
Upson
Andrews
Lingard
David
Rodriguez,
Brez
Orlandi
Hoskins
Barnes
Bridcutt
El abd

Feeling much more positive no Sami is here.

UTA
SMF20 your list is I suspect what we probably need other than the fact that I had understood BHA had signed a young GK for the DS already (Doherty from Charlton after a week's trial) so we only need one GK to replace TK.
In terms of FB, CB and striker I would agree with your assessment although perhaps the 2nd additional striker might be a young DS type player in the same sort of category as Bridcutt and Ince when they joined.
In midfield I keep having to remind myself that we have signed Toko but agree we probably need a couple given that we have lost Bridcutt, Orlandi, Andrews and Lopez and that Agustein remains something of an enigma. In addition we don't know exactly when Crofts will be back although hopefully it will be by about the middle of August. One thing I have noticed a number of posters calling for is an attacking creative midfielder (a view I concur with) and we have really had one since Vicente and before him Bennett. Such a player I feel should be high on the Albion's 'to buy list'.
That just leaves the wide attacking positions and I think your point about LuaLua and Buckley being injury prone is well made and therefore acquiring another winger justifiable (what a disappointment Monakana appears to have been). Incidentally does anyone know if LuaLua has taken up the club's offer to him ? Furthermore I would not be that surprised if Buckley were to leave if one is to believe the rumours circulating in January that he would have departed had BHA been able to sign a suitable replacement (Carayol - Middlesbrough).
Any way whatever the final number I await with interest the first few signings or indeed re-signings that SH makes.
Onwards and Upwards for the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: Well considered but realistically positive comments from TB. One small but perhaps significant difference from what he has stated at roughly the equivalent time in the last two seasons. Both last year and the year before TB said he expected us to sign new players before the (summer) transfer window closed (remember the 4 acquisitions on one day 2 years ago). Yesterday he 'amended' this by saying before the season starts. Clearly getting players in and fully integrated into the squad as soon as possible makes good sense. On top of that I have always thought that it is 'the early bird that catches the worm'. In other words there are more options normally in terms of player recruitment the sooner you deal. With about 8 players needing to be signed (or re-signed) and pre-season starting in about 2 weeks the Club faces a very busy next 3 to 4 weeks especially when you factor in SH also having to increase his back room team. On top of all this activity on the playing side, there will be the opening of the Lancing Training/Academy facility, the announcing of the official sponsor for that complex and the launching of the new Nike Team strip. Life is certainly not going to be dull over the next few weeks ! Upwards and Onwards for the Albion.[/p][/quote]Spot on as always my friend. Thinking forward to recruitment, I wonder how many new guys we should expect. In my mind we are down a big number of players but how many of them actually need replacing? We have 2 keepers and so id guess that with Walton stepping up to potentially number 2, we need a No1 and a DS youngster. (2) 2 decent right backs subject to them both agreeing terms. (0) 2 young left backs and so I think we might need a more experienced head like Ward. (1) 2 good centre half's and so will definitely need to strengthen here. (2) We have 3 decent wingers and so anticipate needing another, especially as Will and Kaz are injury prone (1) Centre midfield looks strong with everyone fit but id opt to get Orlandi back and another creative guy. (2) Up top we have 2 fantastic guys but we for sure need more firepower.(2) I see that as 10 new guys very much needed and given that it is to replace 13/14 that have left for one reason or another then I think it looks realistic. I know and respect that some people think we only need another 4 or 5 signings but given that the following players have gone, I wonder how you got to that number... Kuz Ward Upson Andrews Lingard David Rodriguez, Brez Orlandi Hoskins Barnes Bridcutt El abd Feeling much more positive no Sami is here. UTA[/p][/quote]SMF20 your list is I suspect what we probably need other than the fact that I had understood BHA had signed a young GK for the DS already (Doherty from Charlton after a week's trial) so we only need one GK to replace TK. In terms of FB, CB and striker I would agree with your assessment although perhaps the 2nd additional striker might be a young DS type player in the same sort of category as Bridcutt and Ince when they joined. In midfield I keep having to remind myself that we have signed Toko but agree we probably need a couple given that we have lost Bridcutt, Orlandi, Andrews and Lopez and that Agustein remains something of an enigma. In addition we don't know exactly when Crofts will be back although hopefully it will be by about the middle of August. One thing I have noticed a number of posters calling for is an attacking creative midfielder (a view I concur with) and we have really had one since Vicente and before him Bennett. Such a player I feel should be high on the Albion's 'to buy list'. That just leaves the wide attacking positions and I think your point about LuaLua and Buckley being injury prone is well made and therefore acquiring another winger justifiable (what a disappointment Monakana appears to have been). Incidentally does anyone know if LuaLua has taken up the club's offer to him ? Furthermore I would not be that surprised if Buckley were to leave if one is to believe the rumours circulating in January that he would have departed had BHA been able to sign a suitable replacement (Carayol - Middlesbrough). Any way whatever the final number I await with interest the first few signings or indeed re-signings that SH makes. Onwards and Upwards for the Albion. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Fri 13 Jun 14

peterpan32 says...

I think it was in kazengas contract that the club had the option to extend his deal for a further 12month, which im sure i read they have done. Therefore kazenga not having a choice about leaving or not. I could be wrong so please correct me if i am
I think it was in kazengas contract that the club had the option to extend his deal for a further 12month, which im sure i read they have done. Therefore kazenga not having a choice about leaving or not. I could be wrong so please correct me if i am peterpan32
  • Score: 6

1:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Good morning people.
I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami.

SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window.

Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.
Good morning people. I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami. SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window. Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

1:51pm Fri 13 Jun 14

SMF20 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning people.
I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami.

SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window.

Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.
I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good morning people. I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami. SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window. Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.[/p][/quote]I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in. SMF20
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Fri 13 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning people.
I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami.

SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window.

Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.
I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.
Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince.
I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good morning people. I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami. SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window. Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.[/p][/quote]I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.[/p][/quote]Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince. I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment .
We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA
With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment . We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

2:26pm Fri 13 Jun 14

TheDuke1 says...

It will be interesting to see what happens with the 'budget'. In the first two seasons at the Amex the club recruited some very good players, who could not have been cheap (Upson, Vicente, Ulloah, Bridge, CMS, Kuscack etc...), however last year, at a time when we sold Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd, the club seemed to calm down its spending, which was reflected in the quality that came in to the club (Lita, Obika, Rodrigues, Lindgard......).
To make it 'third time lucky' in the play-offs, Sami will need the backing that OG did not get.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the 'budget'. In the first two seasons at the Amex the club recruited some very good players, who could not have been cheap (Upson, Vicente, Ulloah, Bridge, CMS, Kuscack etc...), however last year, at a time when we sold Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd, the club seemed to calm down its spending, which was reflected in the quality that came in to the club (Lita, Obika, Rodrigues, Lindgard......). To make it 'third time lucky' in the play-offs, Sami will need the backing that OG did not get. TheDuke1
  • Score: 6

2:38pm Fri 13 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

TheDuke1 wrote:
It will be interesting to see what happens with the 'budget'. In the first two seasons at the Amex the club recruited some very good players, who could not have been cheap (Upson, Vicente, Ulloah, Bridge, CMS, Kuscack etc...), however last year, at a time when we sold Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd, the club seemed to calm down its spending, which was reflected in the quality that came in to the club (Lita, Obika, Rodrigues, Lindgard......).
To make it 'third time lucky' in the play-offs, Sami will need the backing that OG did not get.
Hi Duke.
I think you are right about the costs of some of the players we bought in after gaining promotion, but that money ws needed to be spent to solidify our place in the Champ Div, we are now solid but incurred some big financial losses.
Today we are trimming our losses but we have enough decent players on the books to ensure that relegation is not really a threat.
Going forward we will need a stronger squad to get promoted, but I think that squad will be built over a couple of seasons, where as buying to ensure our place in this division was paramount at that time.
[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote: It will be interesting to see what happens with the 'budget'. In the first two seasons at the Amex the club recruited some very good players, who could not have been cheap (Upson, Vicente, Ulloah, Bridge, CMS, Kuscack etc...), however last year, at a time when we sold Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd, the club seemed to calm down its spending, which was reflected in the quality that came in to the club (Lita, Obika, Rodrigues, Lindgard......). To make it 'third time lucky' in the play-offs, Sami will need the backing that OG did not get.[/p][/quote]Hi Duke. I think you are right about the costs of some of the players we bought in after gaining promotion, but that money ws needed to be spent to solidify our place in the Champ Div, we are now solid but incurred some big financial losses. Today we are trimming our losses but we have enough decent players on the books to ensure that relegation is not really a threat. Going forward we will need a stronger squad to get promoted, but I think that squad will be built over a couple of seasons, where as buying to ensure our place in this division was paramount at that time. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

peterpan32 wrote:
I think it was in kazengas contract that the club had the option to extend his deal for a further 12month, which im sure i read they have done. Therefore kazenga not having a choice about leaving or not. I could be wrong so please correct me if i am
I think you are right peterpan32 now you mention it and I certainly hope you are.
In my post responding to SMF20 with regards to a creative attacking midfielder, I meant to say we 'hadn't' had one since Vicente and Bennett' (who Poyet often had at the point' of the midfield diamond). Orlandi came closest in his first season but Poyet tended to use him in the wide left position (with Buckley on the right) rather than more centrally.
A note to SMF20. I think one could add Barker to your list of 'departing' players - Swindon apparently paid a small fee for him.
This gives a total of 14 players who have left recently. I know Hyypia says that he is in principle prepared to turn to the DS to augment the playing squad but other than Walton and possibly Dickenson and Godwin I am not aware of any young player in our DS who is pushing to be brought into the first team squad in the same way that Ince, March and JFC were last year. The jury is out I feel with regards to Monakana.
Therefore I think we are likely to bring in 7 or 8 new players although a couple (one of the strikers and a CB) could be for the DS. Actually whether we bring in 1 or 2 CBs might depend on SH's assessment of Maksimenko.
No doubt all will be revealed in the next 3 - 4 weeks when we see exactly who is recruited.
The Albion - Upwards and Onwards.
[quote][p][bold]peterpan32[/bold] wrote: I think it was in kazengas contract that the club had the option to extend his deal for a further 12month, which im sure i read they have done. Therefore kazenga not having a choice about leaving or not. I could be wrong so please correct me if i am[/p][/quote]I think you are right peterpan32 now you mention it and I certainly hope you are. In my post responding to SMF20 with regards to a creative attacking midfielder, I meant to say we 'hadn't' had one since Vicente and Bennett' (who Poyet often had at the point' of the midfield diamond). Orlandi came closest in his first season but Poyet tended to use him in the wide left position (with Buckley on the right) rather than more centrally. A note to SMF20. I think one could add Barker to your list of 'departing' players - Swindon apparently paid a small fee for him. This gives a total of 14 players who have left recently. I know Hyypia says that he is in principle prepared to turn to the DS to augment the playing squad but other than Walton and possibly Dickenson and Godwin I am not aware of any young player in our DS who is pushing to be brought into the first team squad in the same way that Ince, March and JFC were last year. The jury is out I feel with regards to Monakana. Therefore I think we are likely to bring in 7 or 8 new players although a couple (one of the strikers and a CB) could be for the DS. Actually whether we bring in 1 or 2 CBs might depend on SH's assessment of Maksimenko. No doubt all will be revealed in the next 3 - 4 weeks when we see exactly who is recruited. The Albion - Upwards and Onwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs says...

tug509 wrote:
With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment .
We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA
I don't think we should be placing too much expectation on his links at Anfield. We appear to have made our choice of manager based on some in-depth research and investigation and I'd expect (hope?) he has a wide network to dip into.
I'm not saying Liverpool isn't an option, merely that we're potentially swimming in a larger pool, which of course, is good news!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment . We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA[/p][/quote]I don't think we should be placing too much expectation on his links at Anfield. We appear to have made our choice of manager based on some in-depth research and investigation and I'd expect (hope?) he has a wide network to dip into. I'm not saying Liverpool isn't an option, merely that we're potentially swimming in a larger pool, which of course, is good news! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -1

3:39pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
tug509 wrote:
With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment .
We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA
I don't think we should be placing too much expectation on his links at Anfield. We appear to have made our choice of manager based on some in-depth research and investigation and I'd expect (hope?) he has a wide network to dip into.
I'm not saying Liverpool isn't an option, merely that we're potentially swimming in a larger pool, which of course, is good news!
Yep i agree ,the point i should have made ( and it is pure supposition ) was that in the last three seasons we had a lot of hamstring problems ,and Prem clubs might have looked at our then training facilities and decided they were the reason ,and not want to risk their lads on loan ,however the new pitches and training facilities might make all the difference in getting high quality youngsters on loan .
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: With regards to new players ,Sami was quoted as saying ,"when i saw the new training facilities ,i knew they were serious " so i would imagine a few clubs as well as the obvious Liverpool connections ,would be willing to entrust a loan or two ,with the knowledge that they will get game time and the at least the same standard of traing and treatment . We all hoped for loans from both Gus` and Oscar`s old clubs and nothing materialised ,but i have a better feeling with Sami ,his stock is high at Anfield and i think he will bring a couple in for us . UTA[/p][/quote]I don't think we should be placing too much expectation on his links at Anfield. We appear to have made our choice of manager based on some in-depth research and investigation and I'd expect (hope?) he has a wide network to dip into. I'm not saying Liverpool isn't an option, merely that we're potentially swimming in a larger pool, which of course, is good news![/p][/quote]Yep i agree ,the point i should have made ( and it is pure supposition ) was that in the last three seasons we had a lot of hamstring problems ,and Prem clubs might have looked at our then training facilities and decided they were the reason ,and not want to risk their lads on loan ,however the new pitches and training facilities might make all the difference in getting high quality youngsters on loan . tug509
  • Score: 4

4:00pm Fri 13 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

With the prem clubs going full steam ahead with their transfer business, we might be a long way off knowing just which players are going to be available for loan. I can see us possibly doing one or two deals qickly, maybe the signing of Ward and the aquisition of a center back or two, but those that we might look to in order to get more of a cutting edge, well they might be the borrowed players.

My thiking is that in order to be more effective up front we might have to spend too much of our budget, creativity and goal scoring comes at a price.
Establishing a back for, with back up, that can remain in tact for two or three of seasons, would seem very sensible to me. We already have some talent in mid-field of the right age but we need more. We have a couple of useful strikers, but again we need more, two areas of our game that will cost decent money to upgrade.

If Hyypia wants us to break out with more pace, he will need borrow that pace. If we need more midfield creativity, borrow it. A more clinical striker, borrow him. Just three players borrowed, one for each of these areas, could cost upwards of 5M just to buy, and then we have wages to pay.
With the money we need to spend on our back 4 - 5, I prefer us to own our defense, I am not sure it woul dbe wise to spend all our budget in one window.

So the upshot of my thinking is, the first few players Hyppia brings in will be bought for the defense, the others, well we might have to wait a little longer for them, a flurry of action followed by a slight lull.
With the prem clubs going full steam ahead with their transfer business, we might be a long way off knowing just which players are going to be available for loan. I can see us possibly doing one or two deals qickly, maybe the signing of Ward and the aquisition of a center back or two, but those that we might look to in order to get more of a cutting edge, well they might be the borrowed players. My thiking is that in order to be more effective up front we might have to spend too much of our budget, creativity and goal scoring comes at a price. Establishing a back for, with back up, that can remain in tact for two or three of seasons, would seem very sensible to me. We already have some talent in mid-field of the right age but we need more. We have a couple of useful strikers, but again we need more, two areas of our game that will cost decent money to upgrade. If Hyypia wants us to break out with more pace, he will need borrow that pace. If we need more midfield creativity, borrow it. A more clinical striker, borrow him. Just three players borrowed, one for each of these areas, could cost upwards of 5M just to buy, and then we have wages to pay. With the money we need to spend on our back 4 - 5, I prefer us to own our defense, I am not sure it woul dbe wise to spend all our budget in one window. So the upshot of my thinking is, the first few players Hyppia brings in will be bought for the defense, the others, well we might have to wait a little longer for them, a flurry of action followed by a slight lull. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

4:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

OldGull says...

pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock OldGull
  • Score: -3

6:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion pjwilk
  • Score: -1

6:34pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning people.
I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami.

SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window.

Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.
I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.
Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince.
I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three.
Given that the Budget allows Vegas I feel SH should bring in as many players as are needed to 'set up' the squad as he would like. I don't think we should rely on bringing in Players on Loan when an emergency situation arises. Two reasons.
Firstly the type of player might not be available (at the right cost) when you need them. Secondly one might be limited to say a 93 day loan period and then not be able to get them back/retain the player as was the case with BHA and Conway last year (I gather Conway was set to return but Blackburn stepped in at the last minute).
So when you say we don't need to replace Bridcutt and Andrews because we have Ince I would suggest that we would be wiser to have one other person who can cover the Defensive Midfielder role especially as it seems that SH likes to have someone taking on that function. Remember last season even after Bridcutt departed we still had both Ince and Andrews who could play in that position.
Therefore with 14 players having left and only one joining I think another 7 or 8 players being signed is not an unreasonable number to anticipate being added. Moreover if 1 or 2 were young DS or Chicksen type signings the Budget should be able to accommodate them.
I would rather that SH brings in a smaller number of quality players rather than a large number but would hope that that is not overdone so that we are left 'exposed' as we were against Derby with our 3rd choice CB playing alongside a makeshift CB. Actually we only had one player (TK) playing in his normal position once Greer went off from our regular back 5 in that match. .
Interesting decisions for SH to make which no doubt will be influenced by his assessment of the DS players. I am glad we have someone of his standing to make such difficult ones.
Upwards and Onwards for BHA.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good morning people. I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami. SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window. Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.[/p][/quote]I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.[/p][/quote]Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince. I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three.[/p][/quote]Given that the Budget allows Vegas I feel SH should bring in as many players as are needed to 'set up' the squad as he would like. I don't think we should rely on bringing in Players on Loan when an emergency situation arises. Two reasons. Firstly the type of player might not be available (at the right cost) when you need them. Secondly one might be limited to say a 93 day loan period and then not be able to get them back/retain the player as was the case with BHA and Conway last year (I gather Conway was set to return but Blackburn stepped in at the last minute). So when you say we don't need to replace Bridcutt and Andrews because we have Ince I would suggest that we would be wiser to have one other person who can cover the Defensive Midfielder role especially as it seems that SH likes to have someone taking on that function. Remember last season even after Bridcutt departed we still had both Ince and Andrews who could play in that position. Therefore with 14 players having left and only one joining I think another 7 or 8 players being signed is not an unreasonable number to anticipate being added. Moreover if 1 or 2 were young DS or Chicksen type signings the Budget should be able to accommodate them. I would rather that SH brings in a smaller number of quality players rather than a large number but would hope that that is not overdone so that we are left 'exposed' as we were against Derby with our 3rd choice CB playing alongside a makeshift CB. Actually we only had one player (TK) playing in his normal position once Greer went off from our regular back 5 in that match. . Interesting decisions for SH to make which no doubt will be influenced by his assessment of the DS players. I am glad we have someone of his standing to make such difficult ones. Upwards and Onwards for BHA. ballantrrae
  • Score: -3

7:09pm Fri 13 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley. pjwilk
  • Score: -2

7:11pm Fri 13 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion. pjwilk
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Fri 13 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning people.
I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami.

SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window.

Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.
I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.
Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince.
I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three.
Given that the Budget allows Vegas I feel SH should bring in as many players as are needed to 'set up' the squad as he would like. I don't think we should rely on bringing in Players on Loan when an emergency situation arises. Two reasons.
Firstly the type of player might not be available (at the right cost) when you need them. Secondly one might be limited to say a 93 day loan period and then not be able to get them back/retain the player as was the case with BHA and Conway last year (I gather Conway was set to return but Blackburn stepped in at the last minute).
So when you say we don't need to replace Bridcutt and Andrews because we have Ince I would suggest that we would be wiser to have one other person who can cover the Defensive Midfielder role especially as it seems that SH likes to have someone taking on that function. Remember last season even after Bridcutt departed we still had both Ince and Andrews who could play in that position.
Therefore with 14 players having left and only one joining I think another 7 or 8 players being signed is not an unreasonable number to anticipate being added. Moreover if 1 or 2 were young DS or Chicksen type signings the Budget should be able to accommodate them.
I would rather that SH brings in a smaller number of quality players rather than a large number but would hope that that is not overdone so that we are left 'exposed' as we were against Derby with our 3rd choice CB playing alongside a makeshift CB. Actually we only had one player (TK) playing in his normal position once Greer went off from our regular back 5 in that match. .
Interesting decisions for SH to make which no doubt will be influenced by his assessment of the DS players. I am glad we have someone of his standing to make such difficult ones.
Upwards and Onwards for BHA.
Ballantrrae, I am not actually thinking of doing loan deals in the january window, in a different posting of mine I suggest that Hyypia hold some of the budget back just in case it is needed in the winter window.
My hope is that the loan players come in this window, and on year long deals, thus reducing the percentage of our budget spending right now.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good morning people. I woke up this morning feeling good about the coming season, I don't mean that I expect us to get promoted, it's more a feeling of being confident that we will take a step forward with Sami. SMF 20, whilst I can see how you get to the number you do regarding how many players we need, I have a feeling that we might reduce the size of the squad this season, maybe cut it by two, at least for the start of the season. If needed, and depending on how our season is going, that would give us some money to spend in the January window. Who has the last word in our transfer dealings well that would be the player we are trying to buy and the club he plays for. Hyypia will know his budget, he will speak to Burke about who he wants and Burke will do what Burke does, but the budget rules. Potential new players will come at a price we can afford and our offer, both in terms of price and wages, will be up to the target and his club to accept or decline.[/p][/quote]I agree re cutting the squad Vegas. I already have given 13 gone with the expectation of 10 to come in.[/p][/quote]Yep but maybe we can discount Hoskins as he didn't play, Rodriguez was only ever an emergency signing, so I discount him too. Bridcutt and Andrews gone, but do we only really need to replace one of them,we have Ince. I reckon, if we wanted to, we could cut by a further three.[/p][/quote]Given that the Budget allows Vegas I feel SH should bring in as many players as are needed to 'set up' the squad as he would like. I don't think we should rely on bringing in Players on Loan when an emergency situation arises. Two reasons. Firstly the type of player might not be available (at the right cost) when you need them. Secondly one might be limited to say a 93 day loan period and then not be able to get them back/retain the player as was the case with BHA and Conway last year (I gather Conway was set to return but Blackburn stepped in at the last minute). So when you say we don't need to replace Bridcutt and Andrews because we have Ince I would suggest that we would be wiser to have one other person who can cover the Defensive Midfielder role especially as it seems that SH likes to have someone taking on that function. Remember last season even after Bridcutt departed we still had both Ince and Andrews who could play in that position. Therefore with 14 players having left and only one joining I think another 7 or 8 players being signed is not an unreasonable number to anticipate being added. Moreover if 1 or 2 were young DS or Chicksen type signings the Budget should be able to accommodate them. I would rather that SH brings in a smaller number of quality players rather than a large number but would hope that that is not overdone so that we are left 'exposed' as we were against Derby with our 3rd choice CB playing alongside a makeshift CB. Actually we only had one player (TK) playing in his normal position once Greer went off from our regular back 5 in that match. . Interesting decisions for SH to make which no doubt will be influenced by his assessment of the DS players. I am glad we have someone of his standing to make such difficult ones. Upwards and Onwards for BHA.[/p][/quote]Ballantrrae, I am not actually thinking of doing loan deals in the january window, in a different posting of mine I suggest that Hyypia hold some of the budget back just in case it is needed in the winter window. My hope is that the loan players come in this window, and on year long deals, thus reducing the percentage of our budget spending right now. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ringtone says...

fatso wrote:
All the statements from everyone connected to the club seem to say that Sami's voice will be heard when signing players. However no one has actually said Sami has the final say and it worries me that the situation will be no different to previous seasons. I hope I am wrong.
Excellent post.

Having Burke deciding transfer policy is simply flawed.

Its like driving with the hand brake on.
[quote][p][bold]fatso[/bold] wrote: All the statements from everyone connected to the club seem to say that Sami's voice will be heard when signing players. However no one has actually said Sami has the final say and it worries me that the situation will be no different to previous seasons. I hope I am wrong.[/p][/quote]Excellent post. Having Burke deciding transfer policy is simply flawed. Its like driving with the hand brake on. ringtone
  • Score: 3

7:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.[/p][/quote]Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA tug509
  • Score: 4

7:46pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ringtone says...

ballantrrae wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
I agree and stay Positive too.
I dont agree.

Bring back angry Tug.

Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining.

I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season[/p][/quote]I agree and stay Positive too.[/p][/quote]I dont agree. Bring back angry Tug. Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining. I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge. ringtone
  • Score: -1

8:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

ringtone says...

pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
I agree pjwilk.

The worrying term being used is competitive.

This is just business speak, what it really means is we will try our best but we wont be spending too much money.

Which will probably result in a mid table finish

Unless Super Finn Sami proves to be the great manager/coach I hope he will be.

Ps Respect to Oscar for quitting the flawed burke system, it did him no favours, salute.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.[/p][/quote]I agree pjwilk. The worrying term being used is competitive. This is just business speak, what it really means is we will try our best but we wont be spending too much money. Which will probably result in a mid table finish Unless Super Finn Sami proves to be the great manager/coach I hope he will be. Ps Respect to Oscar for quitting the flawed burke system, it did him no favours, salute. ringtone
  • Score: -2

8:14pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

ringtone wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
I agree and stay Positive too.
I dont agree.

Bring back angry Tug.

Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining.

I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge.
Arrgh shucks ringy ,
What a nice thing to say ,but angry tug is always there ,as is sensible tug but he gets used sparingly ,silly tug , the day after a defeat tug and my favourite, drunk tuugg cos we won ,i didn`t realise i had an edge ,more a sharp corner :0).UTA
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season[/p][/quote]I agree and stay Positive too.[/p][/quote]I dont agree. Bring back angry Tug. Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining. I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge.[/p][/quote]Arrgh shucks ringy , What a nice thing to say ,but angry tug is always there ,as is sensible tug but he gets used sparingly ,silly tug , the day after a defeat tug and my favourite, drunk tuugg cos we won ,i didn`t realise i had an edge ,more a sharp corner :0).UTA tug509
  • Score: 2

8:17pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

ringtone wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season
I agree and stay Positive too.
I dont agree.

Bring back angry Tug.

Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining.

I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge.
Arrgh shucks ringy ,
What a nice thing to say ,but angry tug is always there ,as is sensible tug but he gets used sparingly ,silly tug , the day after a defeat tug and my favourite, drunk tuugg cos we won ,i didn`t realise i had an edge ,more a sharp corner :0).UTA
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA[/p][/quote]Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new season[/p][/quote]I agree and stay Positive too.[/p][/quote]I dont agree. Bring back angry Tug. Some your recent posts have been excellent and entertaining. I hope your chillin out does not result in you losing your edge.[/p][/quote]Arrgh shucks ringy , What a nice thing to say ,but angry tug is always there ,as is sensible tug but he gets used sparingly ,silly tug , the day after a defeat tug and my favourite, drunk tuugg cos we won ,i didn`t realise i had an edge ,more a sharp corner :0).UTA tug509
  • Score: 1

8:22pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Claude Back says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
tug509 says...


dave from bexill wrote:

tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly ,
"Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA.

Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.
Very true B rian We'll said
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: tug509 says... dave from bexill wrote: tug509 wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly , "Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA. Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.[/p][/quote]Very true B rian We'll said Claude Back
  • Score: -1

8:58pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

Claude Back wrote:
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
tug509 says...


dave from bexill wrote:

tug509 wrote:
For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA
Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly ,
"Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA.

Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.
Very true B rian We'll said
OK ,lets get things straight ,anyone of you that actually believes ,that football is more important to me than anything else ,more than my kids and grand children ,have a far more serious problem than i do ,i love The Albion ,and i dont see a problem with that ,so i own a few shirts that have a Seagull on them instead of " i`m with stupid " , how many shirts have you bought over the years ? i dont get to as many games as i would like ,so this is one of my ways of supporting The Albion ,you might hang a generic print on your wall of the Brooklyn bridge from Argos ,i hang a signed shirt from Peter Ward . So finally lets get this clear ,the part of my life that is not occupied by my wife ,children ,grand children friends and beloved pets (which apparently have more common sense ) is totally commited to all things Albion ,anyone with a problem with this ,surely cannot support our Great club ,and i suggest buy one of the shirts mentioned above . ALWAYS ALBION WITH NO EXCUSES !.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: tug509 says... dave from bexill wrote: tug509 wrote: For the first time since the search for a new manager/coach started , i can honestly say i feel both calm and optimistic ,i said similar for both Gus and Oscar ,but this guy Sami just has that appearance of being in control right from the off ,i wouldn`t be at all surprised if we heard of new signings almost immediately ,2 or 3 weeks ago i didn`t think we would even start the season with a full squad ,now i believe it will be a decent one to boot . Good luck Sami. UTA Nice to see you back on song Tug. Lets hope we can all stay hopeful throughout the new seasonThanks Dave ,i have always believed in the words of the great Bill Shankly , "Football is not just a matter of life and death : it`s much more important than that " ,only for football ,change to The Albion ,hence my over exuberance on occasion . :0) UTA. Shankly was a great manager but his oft used quote was a travesty. Football is a form of entertainment - nothing more, nothing less. Shankly, having been discarded by Liverpool, would spend his days watching Everton's reserves for want of anything better to do. Why? Because all he had any interest in was football. Very sad. Football can be exciting, exhilarating and passionate, but ultimately it is just another form of entertainment. Anyone who thinks it is the most important thing in life has no life.[/p][/quote]Very true B rian We'll said[/p][/quote]OK ,lets get things straight ,anyone of you that actually believes ,that football is more important to me than anything else ,more than my kids and grand children ,have a far more serious problem than i do ,i love The Albion ,and i dont see a problem with that ,so i own a few shirts that have a Seagull on them instead of " i`m with stupid " , how many shirts have you bought over the years ? i dont get to as many games as i would like ,so this is one of my ways of supporting The Albion ,you might hang a generic print on your wall of the Brooklyn bridge from Argos ,i hang a signed shirt from Peter Ward . So finally lets get this clear ,the part of my life that is not occupied by my wife ,children ,grand children friends and beloved pets (which apparently have more common sense ) is totally commited to all things Albion ,anyone with a problem with this ,surely cannot support our Great club ,and i suggest buy one of the shirts mentioned above . ALWAYS ALBION WITH NO EXCUSES !. tug509
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9:23pm Fri 13 Jun 14

driverchris53 says...

we need to have a little patience,either Sami Hyypia is the manager or he isn't ;we need to trust him;we will get the important players in;it seems he wants a goalie and 2 centre backs to start with;if we have any money for an expensive signing i am expecting a really good centre back.It would appear he wants to be strong at back;then build from there.give him a week theni i expect for things to start happening
we need to have a little patience,either Sami Hyypia is the manager or he isn't ;we need to trust him;we will get the important players in;it seems he wants a goalie and 2 centre backs to start with;if we have any money for an expensive signing i am expecting a really good centre back.It would appear he wants to be strong at back;then build from there.give him a week theni i expect for things to start happening driverchris53
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10:52pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tug509 says...

B rian Claude ,what no clever come back ,no self righteous dig ,no smart arse comment , i`m not surprised . When i get it wrong on here ,it`s about football ,not YOUR personal lives and of YOUR families ,you arrogant B,stards ,i notice how quick you are to condemn ,but your lack of an answer only proves your ignorance , same goes for those others that backed these morons .
B rian Claude ,what no clever come back ,no self righteous dig ,no smart arse comment , i`m not surprised . When i get it wrong on here ,it`s about football ,not YOUR personal lives and of YOUR families ,you arrogant B,stards ,i notice how quick you are to condemn ,but your lack of an answer only proves your ignorance , same goes for those others that backed these morons . tug509
  • Score: 0

11:37pm Fri 13 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

tug509 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA
Start building from square one are you having a laugh,we should be putting the final touches into a team that could play in the premiership.How far back have we gone,remember Saints coming second to us when promoted,we look like a Div one team at the moment.Our management team are dragging us down.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.[/p][/quote]Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA[/p][/quote]Start building from square one are you having a laugh,we should be putting the final touches into a team that could play in the premiership.How far back have we gone,remember Saints coming second to us when promoted,we look like a Div one team at the moment.Our management team are dragging us down. pjwilk
  • Score: -3

1:10am Sat 14 Jun 14

OldGull says...

pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
I see you have been talking to yourself.
Did you agree with yourself?
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.[/p][/quote]I see you have been talking to yourself. Did you agree with yourself? OldGull
  • Score: 1

4:44am Sat 14 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

tug509 wrote:
B rian Claude ,what no clever come back ,no self righteous dig ,no smart arse comment , i`m not surprised . When i get it wrong on here ,it`s about football ,not YOUR personal lives and of YOUR families ,you arrogant B,stards ,i notice how quick you are to condemn ,but your lack of an answer only proves your ignorance , same goes for those others that backed these morons .
Ah, Angry Tug is back! And I totally agree with him!!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: B rian Claude ,what no clever come back ,no self righteous dig ,no smart arse comment , i`m not surprised . When i get it wrong on here ,it`s about football ,not YOUR personal lives and of YOUR families ,you arrogant B,stards ,i notice how quick you are to condemn ,but your lack of an answer only proves your ignorance , same goes for those others that backed these morons .[/p][/quote]Ah, Angry Tug is back! And I totally agree with him!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: -2

9:08am Sat 14 Jun 14

tug509 says...

pjwilk wrote:
tug509 wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
OldGull wrote:
pjwilk wrote:
Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.
Pjillock
Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion
If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.
Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.
Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA
Start building from square one are you having a laugh,we should be putting the final touches into a team that could play in the premiership.How far back have we gone,remember Saints coming second to us when promoted,we look like a Div one team at the moment.Our management team are dragging us down.
I agree with all you`ve said ,but we have lost our manager/coach for the second year on the trot ,and lost or let go some 14 players ,so whether we like it or not it`s back to square 1 ,a healthy squre 1 but none the less ,and we dont know yet what Sami is going to do . UTA
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Top six not good enough,we have been there and done it twice.But it can be six or sixteenth you still finish up where you started,ie playing Brentford and Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Pjillock[/p][/quote]Double Pillock,you are obviously easily pleased and prepared for no progress,i hope i am wrong but they are not making positive vibes.We need to hear we are going for automatic promotion[/p][/quote]If we are happy with not going up or down lets save our money because we are happy with mid table.and there is no change. We must have more ambition than that otherwise why bother,might as well go to Crawley.[/p][/quote]Sorry Crawley you have more ambition and definitely want promotion.[/p][/quote]Off the top of my head ,i think it was the 2004/5 season that we were in the 2nd tier and only won 7 games all season ,i Think it was the 2000/1 season we won 27/8 games ,our record being 29 ,i dont care (apart from 4 games ) about Brentford or Rotherham ,we have to start from square 1 this season ,but that is a sight better than starting from square 1 in 2004/5 ,we are established ,the Albion side today is a different class to then . UTA[/p][/quote]Start building from square one are you having a laugh,we should be putting the final touches into a team that could play in the premiership.How far back have we gone,remember Saints coming second to us when promoted,we look like a Div one team at the moment.Our management team are dragging us down.[/p][/quote]I agree with all you`ve said ,but we have lost our manager/coach for the second year on the trot ,and lost or let go some 14 players ,so whether we like it or not it`s back to square 1 ,a healthy squre 1 but none the less ,and we dont know yet what Sami is going to do . UTA tug509
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