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Ex-Albion star deserved more chance at United says Scholes

The Argus: Jesse Lingard celebrates his goal against Charlton Jesse Lingard celebrates his goal against Charlton

Former Albion loanee Jesse Lingard should have been given a first team chance at Manchester United last season by David Moyes.

That is the verdict of United legend Paul Scholes, who regarded Lingard as a better prospect last summer than Adnan Januzaj.

England under-21 international Lingard scored four goals in 17 games on loan to Albion at the end of last season following a similar spell with Birmingham.

Januzaj featured in 35 matches for ex-United boss Moyes at Old Trafford.

Scholes said: “Last season at United, Lingard went on the pre-season tour, scored goals, and looked really sharp. At that time he was a better prospect, in my mind, than Adnan Januzaj, but he didn’t get the chance.

“I’m not questioning the talent of Januzaj, but Lingard, if given the opportunity, could have done well in the first team. With his ability, Lingard deserved to challenge Shinji Kagawa for a place.”

Januzaj is currently at the World Cup with Belgium, who have qualified for the knockout stage in Brazil.

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11:19am Sat 28 Jun 14

Newhavenles says...

Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward
Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward Newhavenles
  • Score: 10

11:35am Sat 28 Jun 14

The Phantom says...

Newhavenles wrote:
Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward
Agree that we didnt really get the best out of him - should have been an absolute stand-out in the Championship.Not sure why Scholes has got so much to say nowadays - everything he is quoted as saying seems to be antagonistic.
[quote][p][bold]Newhavenles[/bold] wrote: Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward[/p][/quote]Agree that we didnt really get the best out of him - should have been an absolute stand-out in the Championship.Not sure why Scholes has got so much to say nowadays - everything he is quoted as saying seems to be antagonistic. The Phantom
  • Score: 6

12:20pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Merdalf the Wizard says...

The Phantom wrote:
Newhavenles wrote:
Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward
Agree that we didnt really get the best out of him - should have been an absolute stand-out in the Championship.Not sure why Scholes has got so much to say nowadays - everything he is quoted as saying seems to be antagonistic.
Quite similar to the way he played, who didn't watch a Manc Utd game and have a sly bet how long it would take him to get a yellow?
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newhavenles[/bold] wrote: Would have done much better for us but with our slow build up and general lack of pace it didn't allow him to shine as the star he will soon become.We need to buy players who can play at that skill level now or in the near future to move forward[/p][/quote]Agree that we didnt really get the best out of him - should have been an absolute stand-out in the Championship.Not sure why Scholes has got so much to say nowadays - everything he is quoted as saying seems to be antagonistic.[/p][/quote]Quite similar to the way he played, who didn't watch a Manc Utd game and have a sly bet how long it would take him to get a yellow? Merdalf the Wizard
  • Score: 6

12:28pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Conelli98 says...

Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex! Conelli98
  • Score: -7

12:32pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Phantom says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Based on???
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Based on??? The Phantom
  • Score: 7

12:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

lighteninglee says...

Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences....
Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences.... lighteninglee
  • Score: 9

1:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

tinker111 says...

lighteninglee wrote:
Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences....
HA HA
[quote][p][bold]lighteninglee[/bold] wrote: Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences....[/p][/quote]HA HA tinker111
  • Score: -4

1:16pm Sat 28 Jun 14

lonegull says...

Like Lingard and would welcome him back. Scholes on the other hand is a fool making controversial statements to try and maintain his media profile. Lingard was nowhere near premiership standard last year. He has pace, skill and potential but is not the finished article.
Like Lingard and would welcome him back. Scholes on the other hand is a fool making controversial statements to try and maintain his media profile. Lingard was nowhere near premiership standard last year. He has pace, skill and potential but is not the finished article. lonegull
  • Score: 6

1:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

tinker111 says...

JL not an ex Albion star ?? no Man U fringe player and what does PS KNOW about players he may have been Legend don't think I want JS back thanks
JL not an ex Albion star ?? no Man U fringe player and what does PS KNOW about players he may have been Legend don't think I want JS back thanks tinker111
  • Score: -5

1:23pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

The problem Lingard has is the fact that Moyes had such a torrid time during his tenure, had things worked out better for Moyes, then maybe Lingard would have got more chances at United. Gaal has to get United back on top and to do that he has to spend, and he can buy players that are more advanced in their game than young Lingard is right now.
IMHO the best thing that could happen for Jesee would be for him to go out on a year long loan deal, Gaal rebuilds his squad and gets United back up there, then see what the future holds. The lad needs to be playing, he needs to continue to score goals to confirm that he has something to offer at the top level with one of the top clubs.
As much as I don't like borrowing players, and the fact that we wouldn't pay what United would ask, Lingard is one lad I would dearly like to see back at Brighton.
The problem Lingard has is the fact that Moyes had such a torrid time during his tenure, had things worked out better for Moyes, then maybe Lingard would have got more chances at United. Gaal has to get United back on top and to do that he has to spend, and he can buy players that are more advanced in their game than young Lingard is right now. IMHO the best thing that could happen for Jesee would be for him to go out on a year long loan deal, Gaal rebuilds his squad and gets United back up there, then see what the future holds. The lad needs to be playing, he needs to continue to score goals to confirm that he has something to offer at the top level with one of the top clubs. As much as I don't like borrowing players, and the fact that we wouldn't pay what United would ask, Lingard is one lad I would dearly like to see back at Brighton. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

1:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Max Ripple says...

The Phantom wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Based on???
Yes, please do tell.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Based on???[/p][/quote]Yes, please do tell. Max Ripple
  • Score: 4

2:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

Lingard never starred for us. Just ask Ulloa what he thought of him!!!!
Lingard never starred for us. Just ask Ulloa what he thought of him!!!! namgo49
  • Score: -2

2:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Brilliant news, McCormack a top draw striker, Ulloa not interested enough for me, also get shot of CMS while we're at it. Get rid of the pair of them and buy McCormack and Crouch. What a strikeforce. At last some proper wheeling and dealing at the Amex.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Brilliant news, McCormack a top draw striker, Ulloa not interested enough for me, also get shot of CMS while we're at it. Get rid of the pair of them and buy McCormack and Crouch. What a strikeforce. At last some proper wheeling and dealing at the Amex. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -20

2:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Whilst I do not think Lingard "Starred" to often for us,
I do not understand the negativity about him.
After all he was our 3rd highest scorer behind Ulloa & Crofts.
The same people who moan about Lingard, talk up LuaLua
Who managed 1 goal all season , and that wasn't even a shot
I would be more than happy to have JL back on loan
UTA
Whilst I do not think Lingard "Starred" to often for us, I do not understand the negativity about him. After all he was our 3rd highest scorer behind Ulloa & Crofts. The same people who moan about Lingard, talk up LuaLua Who managed 1 goal all season , and that wasn't even a shot I would be more than happy to have JL back on loan UTA OldGull
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

OldGull wrote:
Whilst I do not think Lingard "Starred" to often for us,
I do not understand the negativity about him.
After all he was our 3rd highest scorer behind Ulloa & Crofts.
The same people who moan about Lingard, talk up LuaLua
Who managed 1 goal all season , and that wasn't even a shot
I would be more than happy to have JL back on loan
UTA
What is not to like about the lad, did he miss a couple of scoring chances, yep, but so has Ronaldo in the last couple of World Cup matches, who doesn't miss a few.
The lad is 22 years of age, he is still polishing his skills and will improve I am sure. If we owned him we would be fighting off approaches, it's only because he is a United player, and they usually deal in big numbers, that we are not, as yet, seeing interest from other prem clubs in getting the lad.

If he goes out on loan I would like to think we could get him, but my guess is another prem club will snap him up or he will go abroad. Southampton are awash with money, maybe they will take him for a year, they are pretty good at bringing on younger players.
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: Whilst I do not think Lingard "Starred" to often for us, I do not understand the negativity about him. After all he was our 3rd highest scorer behind Ulloa & Crofts. The same people who moan about Lingard, talk up LuaLua Who managed 1 goal all season , and that wasn't even a shot I would be more than happy to have JL back on loan UTA[/p][/quote]What is not to like about the lad, did he miss a couple of scoring chances, yep, but so has Ronaldo in the last couple of World Cup matches, who doesn't miss a few. The lad is 22 years of age, he is still polishing his skills and will improve I am sure. If we owned him we would be fighting off approaches, it's only because he is a United player, and they usually deal in big numbers, that we are not, as yet, seeing interest from other prem clubs in getting the lad. If he goes out on loan I would like to think we could get him, but my guess is another prem club will snap him up or he will go abroad. Southampton are awash with money, maybe they will take him for a year, they are pretty good at bringing on younger players. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

3:20pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ringtone says...

If he had been playing for Man utd last season they would have been relegated, enough said.
If he had been playing for Man utd last season they would have been relegated, enough said. ringtone
  • Score: -5

3:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Gee Jay says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
He is more likely to get paid each month at the Albion, but we'll take McCormack AND keep Leo thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]He is more likely to get paid each month at the Albion, but we'll take McCormack AND keep Leo thanks. Gee Jay
  • Score: 5

3:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there!
Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there! Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise. Conelli98
  • Score: -2

3:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Gee Jay says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Conelli98 wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Brilliant news, McCormack a top draw striker, Ulloa not interested enough for me, also get shot of CMS while we're at it. Get rid of the pair of them and buy McCormack and Crouch. What a strikeforce. At last some proper wheeling and dealing at the Amex.
Did one of the Billy Goats Gruff just walk over the bridge?
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Brilliant news, McCormack a top draw striker, Ulloa not interested enough for me, also get shot of CMS while we're at it. Get rid of the pair of them and buy McCormack and Crouch. What a strikeforce. At last some proper wheeling and dealing at the Amex.[/p][/quote]Did one of the Billy Goats Gruff just walk over the bridge? Gee Jay
  • Score: 3

3:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there!
Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.
Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here...
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there! Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.[/p][/quote]Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here... mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

3:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mark by the sea says...

Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there!
Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.
Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here...
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there! Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.[/p][/quote]Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here... mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

4:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Paul Scholes is probably right.
Jesse would have improved the Man U team under Moyes, but he wouldn't have got anywhere near the first team of any of the top six.
There was a lot of hype concerning Lingard, most of it based on his 4 goal debut on loan at Birmingham City. A more realistic view of his abilities is gained by considering that he only scored 2 more goals in his other 12 games for Brum.
He can think faster than most defenders, and often produces the skill to go with it. Four goals in 17 matches playing in a Garcia side is not a bad total.
I can't see him being involved in 1st team action for Van Gaal for at least another season, but if there are appearance conditions attached to any potential loan deal, I don't believe that Sami would accept such a restrictive arrangement.
Paul Scholes is probably right. Jesse would have improved the Man U team under Moyes, but he wouldn't have got anywhere near the first team of any of the top six. There was a lot of hype concerning Lingard, most of it based on his 4 goal debut on loan at Birmingham City. A more realistic view of his abilities is gained by considering that he only scored 2 more goals in his other 12 games for Brum. He can think faster than most defenders, and often produces the skill to go with it. Four goals in 17 matches playing in a Garcia side is not a bad total. I can't see him being involved in 1st team action for Van Gaal for at least another season, but if there are appearance conditions attached to any potential loan deal, I don't believe that Sami would accept such a restrictive arrangement. gordongull
  • Score: 2

4:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder? Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -11

4:22pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Beale32 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Haven't Leeds already rejected a bid in the region of 5m for McCormack? So it would most probably cost the same to get him as it will be for others to get Leo
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Haven't Leeds already rejected a bid in the region of 5m for McCormack? So it would most probably cost the same to get him as it will be for others to get Leo Beale32
  • Score: 2

4:24pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Conelli98 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

4:26pm Sat 28 Jun 14

gordongull says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
How about Crouch and Zigic up front, Mayfield?
Only problem might be wages. They are used to earning over 100k a week between them.
We will be looking to get a new team for less than that.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]How about Crouch and Zigic up front, Mayfield? Only problem might be wages. They are used to earning over 100k a week between them. We will be looking to get a new team for less than that. gordongull
  • Score: -2

4:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Conelli98 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!!
...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!![/p][/quote]...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!! Conelli98
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!!
...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!!
Yes indeed the plot thickens. In fact it would not surprise me if the suits have read the comments on this forum and have acted on them. This is the most exciting news in years!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!![/p][/quote]...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!![/p][/quote]Yes indeed the plot thickens. In fact it would not surprise me if the suits have read the comments on this forum and have acted on them. This is the most exciting news in years! Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -9

4:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

gordongull wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
How about Crouch and Zigic up front, Mayfield?
Only problem might be wages. They are used to earning over 100k a week between them.
We will be looking to get a new team for less than that.
Not Zigic he is too similair to crouch, but McCormack would play off crouch. Fulham made a 5 million bid, so 5.5 -6 million should hopefully be enough to land him. Should be plenty of money with Ulloa fee, plus Bridcutt, Barnes, CMS? Buckley? Good business all round, everyones a winner!
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]How about Crouch and Zigic up front, Mayfield? Only problem might be wages. They are used to earning over 100k a week between them. We will be looking to get a new team for less than that.[/p][/quote]Not Zigic he is too similair to crouch, but McCormack would play off crouch. Fulham made a 5 million bid, so 5.5 -6 million should hopefully be enough to land him. Should be plenty of money with Ulloa fee, plus Bridcutt, Barnes, CMS? Buckley? Good business all round, everyones a winner! Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

4:57pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

As much as Brighton don't want to sell Ulloa I don't think that means that they, 'won't,' sell him, the money has to be right though. Talks will, and maybe have already, take place between Hyypia, the club and Ulloa, I am sure he will be told of the club's stance regarding his services.
There might come a time when a bid is close to what we will accept, and a written transfer request might be what makes the difference, no club payout on a request. Would Leo do a Bridcutt, suddenly his head is not in the game anymore, maybe, but the club have gone thru that once already and I am sure they won't want to do it again. Leo and his agent both know the lad's value, that will be demonstrated by the wage demand he goes for should he move up, sale price and wage demands go hand in hand in a lot of deals. A striker sold for 8 million, or more, aint gonna accept no 25K a week.

The buyer wants to talk the buying price down, the seller wants a fee that compensates for the loss of a key striker and the agent want his player on top money so he talks his player up. Somewhere in all that a realistic offer has to be found or Leo aint going anywhere.
As much as Brighton don't want to sell Ulloa I don't think that means that they, 'won't,' sell him, the money has to be right though. Talks will, and maybe have already, take place between Hyypia, the club and Ulloa, I am sure he will be told of the club's stance regarding his services. There might come a time when a bid is close to what we will accept, and a written transfer request might be what makes the difference, no club payout on a request. Would Leo do a Bridcutt, suddenly his head is not in the game anymore, maybe, but the club have gone thru that once already and I am sure they won't want to do it again. Leo and his agent both know the lad's value, that will be demonstrated by the wage demand he goes for should he move up, sale price and wage demands go hand in hand in a lot of deals. A striker sold for 8 million, or more, aint gonna accept no 25K a week. The buyer wants to talk the buying price down, the seller wants a fee that compensates for the loss of a key striker and the agent want his player on top money so he talks his player up. Somewhere in all that a realistic offer has to be found or Leo aint going anywhere. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Sat 28 Jun 14

lighteninglee says...

tinker111 wrote:
lighteninglee wrote:
Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences....
HA HA
Why ha ha the pair have not even played more than 20mins together at one time so they have not had the chance to form a partnership.
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lighteninglee[/bold] wrote: Ulloa Will be at Brighton next season working alongside c.m.s think they can become a strike force to be worried about by all championship defences....[/p][/quote]HA HA[/p][/quote]Why ha ha the pair have not even played more than 20mins together at one time so they have not had the chance to form a partnership. lighteninglee
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Sat 28 Jun 14

VegasSeagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!!
yep my price was wrong, I completely forgot about the 5 million offer that had been turned down. If we were to get beween 8 and 10 million for Leo, McCormack at 5 million would still be a decent deal, but can you see Brighton paying 5 million for a player, this side of promotion that is, I can't.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!![/p][/quote]yep my price was wrong, I completely forgot about the 5 million offer that had been turned down. If we were to get beween 8 and 10 million for Leo, McCormack at 5 million would still be a decent deal, but can you see Brighton paying 5 million for a player, this side of promotion that is, I can't. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

6:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Beale32 says...

I do like ulloa, and he is good when back defending. BUT......he is not the quickest and if we are going to be playing fast counter attacking football, i don't think he has the pace to get himself in the box to finish the move off from his position defending. So it will depend on the price that will come in for him if he stays. But then if and its a big if cms is on the pitch at the same time, i guess he will stay up top.
I hope he stays but think he will go in the end.
I do like ulloa, and he is good when back defending. BUT......he is not the quickest and if we are going to be playing fast counter attacking football, i don't think he has the pace to get himself in the box to finish the move off from his position defending. So it will depend on the price that will come in for him if he stays. But then if and its a big if cms is on the pitch at the same time, i guess he will stay up top. I hope he stays but think he will go in the end. Beale32
  • Score: 3

6:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

JeffLomer says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!!
yep my price was wrong, I completely forgot about the 5 million offer that had been turned down. If we were to get beween 8 and 10 million for Leo, McCormack at 5 million would still be a decent deal, but can you see Brighton paying 5 million for a player, this side of promotion that is, I can't.
No I can't but wouldn't it be nice to make a signing like Ross and keep Leo to show we mean business, Ross is the sort off player were missing up front 30 goals a season in him,
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas, If this is TRUE and I would be happy to see Ross here at Brighton how do you put a price off 3 million on mcormack, when Leeds turned down 5 million from Fulham only last week, I would value mcoemack a lot more than Ulloa that is for sure, he scored double the goals than Ulloa!![/p][/quote]yep my price was wrong, I completely forgot about the 5 million offer that had been turned down. If we were to get beween 8 and 10 million for Leo, McCormack at 5 million would still be a decent deal, but can you see Brighton paying 5 million for a player, this side of promotion that is, I can't.[/p][/quote]No I can't but wouldn't it be nice to make a signing like Ross and keep Leo to show we mean business, Ross is the sort off player were missing up front 30 goals a season in him, JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

7:02pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!!
...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!!
Yes indeed the plot thickens. In fact it would not surprise me if the suits have read the comments on this forum and have acted on them. This is the most exciting news in years!
What an absolute pile of c**p, but interesting !
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!![/p][/quote]...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!![/p][/quote]Yes indeed the plot thickens. In fact it would not surprise me if the suits have read the comments on this forum and have acted on them. This is the most exciting news in years![/p][/quote]What an absolute pile of c**p, but interesting ! Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 2

8:00pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Reading through this thread the thought of M-Smith and McCormack linking up sounds good however they may well spend much of their time defending,there would be little cash available to improve the defence
Reading through this thread the thought of M-Smith and McCormack linking up sounds good however they may well spend much of their time defending,there would be little cash available to improve the defence Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 2

8:00pm Sat 28 Jun 14

namgo49 says...

Question: What will Jara Reyes be more noted for, playing a season at the Amex or missing the penalty that put Brazil through to the next round of the World Cup?
Question: What will Jara Reyes be more noted for, playing a season at the Amex or missing the penalty that put Brazil through to the next round of the World Cup? namgo49
  • Score: 1

8:01pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil.
We've really arrived on the World scene now.
We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil. We've really arrived on the World scene now. Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

8:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Conelli98 says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil.
We've really arrived on the World scene now.
You mean you missed the three Brighton St George's flags on show against Italy!
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil. We've really arrived on the World scene now.[/p][/quote]You mean you missed the three Brighton St George's flags on show against Italy! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

8:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

gordongull says...

The sooner the Ulloa situation is sorted out the better. That is if there is a situation. What we don't need is ongoing disruption to the player budget as will happen if there is continuing uncertainty.
If we get an offer of £7m, and he is interested, we should accept, or go through the procedure of him putting in a transfer request, and potentially having a disillusioned player on our hands, through the rest of the transfer window, and maybe into next season.
If he goes now, and his fee is added to the transfer fund, the quality of new additions to the team can be planned accordingly.
A more favourable outcome would be no further interest from the Premier League, and Leo committing to at least another season with the Club.
The sooner the Ulloa situation is sorted out the better. That is if there is a situation. What we don't need is ongoing disruption to the player budget as will happen if there is continuing uncertainty. If we get an offer of £7m, and he is interested, we should accept, or go through the procedure of him putting in a transfer request, and potentially having a disillusioned player on our hands, through the rest of the transfer window, and maybe into next season. If he goes now, and his fee is added to the transfer fund, the quality of new additions to the team can be planned accordingly. A more favourable outcome would be no further interest from the Premier League, and Leo committing to at least another season with the Club. gordongull
  • Score: 3

8:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there!
Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.
Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here...
what about the 3 yrs left on his contract.wont that keep him here?there will be no wages increse with that long left on it as he could still put in a request next season.cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]Mischief making I'm not Mr Vegas, I find it hard to believe myself but it's what has been touted about in the echelons of The Amex according to others that spend a great deal of time there! Ulloa will be putting in transfer request on Monday and you can expect Buckley likewise.[/p][/quote]Hi you heard same as I did last weekend, Leo wants away, or a big wage rise might keep him here...[/p][/quote]what about the 3 yrs left on his contract.wont that keep him here?there will be no wages increse with that long left on it as he could still put in a request next season.cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Joel'sGrandad wrote:
We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil.
We've really arrived on the World scene now.
You mean you missed the three Brighton St George's flags on show against Italy!
March for England
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: We just got a mention on BBC's World Cup commentary in Brazil. We've really arrived on the World scene now.[/p][/quote]You mean you missed the three Brighton St George's flags on show against Italy![/p][/quote]March for England ringtone
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ringtone says...

Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game.

Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it.

Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste.

Sad
Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game. Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it. Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste. Sad ringtone
  • Score: 1

9:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Beale32 says...

ringtone wrote:
Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game.

Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it.

Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste.

Sad
I tend to agree with you there.

That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game. Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it. Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste. Sad[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with you there. That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots. Beale32
  • Score: 1

9:58pm Sat 28 Jun 14

OldGull says...

Beale32 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game.

Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it.

Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste.

Sad
I tend to agree with you there.

That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.
Do you think Ringtone was a young player?
[quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game. Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it. Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste. Sad[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with you there. That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.[/p][/quote]Do you think Ringtone was a young player? OldGull
  • Score: 6

11:13pm Sat 28 Jun 14

lonegull says...

One good season does not make McCormack a 30 goal a season man. He's never got 30. 28 last year but it took him 4 seasons to get just 29 before that. Two years ago Leeds wanted CMS and offered McCormack + cash. Shows how short memories are and how quickly valuations can change.
One good season does not make McCormack a 30 goal a season man. He's never got 30. 28 last year but it took him 4 seasons to get just 29 before that. Two years ago Leeds wanted CMS and offered McCormack + cash. Shows how short memories are and how quickly valuations can change. lonegull
  • Score: 5

4:38am Sun 29 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 7

8:20am Sun 29 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!![/p][/quote]QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -4

8:43am Sun 29 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.
So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!![/p][/quote]QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.[/p][/quote]So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 7

8:59am Sun 29 Jun 14

Beale32 says...

OldGull wrote:
Beale32 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game.

Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it.

Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste.

Sad
I tend to agree with you there.

That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.
Do you think Ringtone was a young player?
I think he was one of these guys with all the gear and no idea. Talks a good game, but in reality.....useless!
! But comes up with a cracker from time to time 😎
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game. Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it. Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste. Sad[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with you there. That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.[/p][/quote]Do you think Ringtone was a young player?[/p][/quote]I think he was one of these guys with all the gear and no idea. Talks a good game, but in reality.....useless! ! But comes up with a cracker from time to time 😎 Beale32
  • Score: 0

9:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

albionfan33 says...

OldGull wrote:
Beale32 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game.

Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it.

Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste.

Sad
I tend to agree with you there.

That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.
Do you think Ringtone was a young player?
just call him mr button............
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beale32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Lingard is a great example of one of the many ills of the english game. Talented? possibly, but signed up by a big club, no doubt on big money, so thinks he has made it. Therefore no desire to improve, what a waste. Sad[/p][/quote]I tend to agree with you there. That's another reason alot of young players turn into idiots.[/p][/quote]Do you think Ringtone was a young player?[/p][/quote]just call him mr button............ albionfan33
  • Score: 0

10:02am Sun 29 Jun 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.
So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!!
No, but the point is, whatever the facilities are, the same things are being taught. It's all about the people not the facilities, of course modern prima donnas would only accept state of the art facilities, but then we don't tend to sign those sort of players, although the McCormack rumours sound very promising...
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!![/p][/quote]QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.[/p][/quote]So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!![/p][/quote]No, but the point is, whatever the facilities are, the same things are being taught. It's all about the people not the facilities, of course modern prima donnas would only accept state of the art facilities, but then we don't tend to sign those sort of players, although the McCormack rumours sound very promising... Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

10:46am Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

gordongull wrote:
Paul Scholes is probably right.
Jesse would have improved the Man U team under Moyes, but he wouldn't have got anywhere near the first team of any of the top six.
There was a lot of hype concerning Lingard, most of it based on his 4 goal debut on loan at Birmingham City. A more realistic view of his abilities is gained by considering that he only scored 2 more goals in his other 12 games for Brum.
He can think faster than most defenders, and often produces the skill to go with it. Four goals in 17 matches playing in a Garcia side is not a bad total.
I can't see him being involved in 1st team action for Van Gaal for at least another season, but if there are appearance conditions attached to any potential loan deal, I don't believe that Sami would accept such a restrictive arrangement.
I would go along with that assessment and I too don't think Sami would accept appearance conditions. I wouldn't mind seeing Lingard back for the season. He's not the finished article but he shows plenty of promise and several months down the line now he may have gained maturity to his play through his age and reflecting on his experiences so far.

His scoring ratio for Albion in an attacking midfield / wide role is 1 in 4. That approximately matches CMS's fragmented history with us so far.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Paul Scholes is probably right. Jesse would have improved the Man U team under Moyes, but he wouldn't have got anywhere near the first team of any of the top six. There was a lot of hype concerning Lingard, most of it based on his 4 goal debut on loan at Birmingham City. A more realistic view of his abilities is gained by considering that he only scored 2 more goals in his other 12 games for Brum. He can think faster than most defenders, and often produces the skill to go with it. Four goals in 17 matches playing in a Garcia side is not a bad total. I can't see him being involved in 1st team action for Van Gaal for at least another season, but if there are appearance conditions attached to any potential loan deal, I don't believe that Sami would accept such a restrictive arrangement.[/p][/quote]I would go along with that assessment and I too don't think Sami would accept appearance conditions. I wouldn't mind seeing Lingard back for the season. He's not the finished article but he shows plenty of promise and several months down the line now he may have gained maturity to his play through his age and reflecting on his experiences so far. His scoring ratio for Albion in an attacking midfield / wide role is 1 in 4. That approximately matches CMS's fragmented history with us so far. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

10:51am Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!!
...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!!
Ungrateful bar stewards. I'd welcome Bobby back!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]As much as it PAINS me to say for once Mayfield or whoever you are, we are actually on the same wavelength with our news not necessarily our views. If McCormack comes in then CMS maybe used as bait. Ulloa is not part of any deal regards Leeds but Sunderland and Newcastle are thought to be clubs interested. Remember people Crouch played with Hypia and under Lee at Liverpool so don't rule it out!!![/p][/quote]...and if ain't Crouch there maybe another ex Tottenham hitman looking for a club as his contract at loftus road is not being renewed!!![/p][/quote]Ungrateful bar stewards. I'd welcome Bobby back! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

11:00am Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
As much as Brighton don't want to sell Ulloa I don't think that means that they, 'won't,' sell him, the money has to be right though. Talks will, and maybe have already, take place between Hyypia, the club and Ulloa, I am sure he will be told of the club's stance regarding his services.
There might come a time when a bid is close to what we will accept, and a written transfer request might be what makes the difference, no club payout on a request. Would Leo do a Bridcutt, suddenly his head is not in the game anymore, maybe, but the club have gone thru that once already and I am sure they won't want to do it again. Leo and his agent both know the lad's value, that will be demonstrated by the wage demand he goes for should he move up, sale price and wage demands go hand in hand in a lot of deals. A striker sold for 8 million, or more, aint gonna accept no 25K a week.

The buyer wants to talk the buying price down, the seller wants a fee that compensates for the loss of a key striker and the agent want his player on top money so he talks his player up. Somewhere in all that a realistic offer has to be found or Leo aint going anywhere.
If no-one moving for £8m would accept less than £25k pw, us selling Ulloa and buying McCormack would leave us out of pocket as our wage budget would have been stretched by default. I don't think RMcM would go for £8m - nearer £6m - but by you're (probably fair) estimate he might want £18-20k pw.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: As much as Brighton don't want to sell Ulloa I don't think that means that they, 'won't,' sell him, the money has to be right though. Talks will, and maybe have already, take place between Hyypia, the club and Ulloa, I am sure he will be told of the club's stance regarding his services. There might come a time when a bid is close to what we will accept, and a written transfer request might be what makes the difference, no club payout on a request. Would Leo do a Bridcutt, suddenly his head is not in the game anymore, maybe, but the club have gone thru that once already and I am sure they won't want to do it again. Leo and his agent both know the lad's value, that will be demonstrated by the wage demand he goes for should he move up, sale price and wage demands go hand in hand in a lot of deals. A striker sold for 8 million, or more, aint gonna accept no 25K a week. The buyer wants to talk the buying price down, the seller wants a fee that compensates for the loss of a key striker and the agent want his player on top money so he talks his player up. Somewhere in all that a realistic offer has to be found or Leo aint going anywhere.[/p][/quote]If no-one moving for £8m would accept less than £25k pw, us selling Ulloa and buying McCormack would leave us out of pocket as our wage budget would have been stretched by default. I don't think RMcM would go for £8m - nearer £6m - but by you're (probably fair) estimate he might want £18-20k pw. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

11:09am Sun 29 Jun 14

Captain Haddock says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
Hear hear!
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!![/p][/quote]Hear hear! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex!
Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention.

'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.
No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?
That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110!

Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture.

The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that.

If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead?

UTA!!
QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.
So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!!
No, but the point is, whatever the facilities are, the same things are being taught. It's all about the people not the facilities, of course modern prima donnas would only accept state of the art facilities, but then we don't tend to sign those sort of players, although the McCormack rumours sound very promising...
So you are now contradicting what you said. Now you're agreeing that today's footballers want today's facilities. Call them all prima donnas if it makes you feel good, but I really don't see McCormack or any other good player coming to the type of club you advocate! Well thought through. Maybe time to go back to sweeping the roads of Mayfield - shouldn't take long!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Brighton to sell Ulloa this week with Ross McCormack coming to the Amex![/p][/quote]Unlike you to offer such a wild prediction Conelli98, making a little mischief perhaps? You have certainly got Mayfield's attention. 'If' what you predict came about, and I say, 'IF,' and presuming that we held out for between 7 and 10 million, with McCormack costing about 3 million, I guess it would be a good bit of business. Of course I know that your comment was posted in fun, so please accept my reply in the same manner.[/p][/quote]No vegas only last week or so I insisted we should sell Ulloa and sign Ross McCormack and you and most others would not take it seriously. This all made perfect sense and now it is proving to ring true. I know exactly what I'm talking about and what is needed at the Albion. It's time we freshened things up at the Amex, talk of FFP and 30 million pound training complexes are not what puts backsides on seats, big name transfer speculations and signings do, just ask QPR fans. I told you this would happen, now with Ulloa sold if we sell CMS we can move for crouch as well. Exciting times! Now who's next I wonder?[/p][/quote]That would be the same QPR whose average attendance last season was 16,656? As opposed to our average of 27,110! Mayfield, it takes more than a spending spree to put bums on seats. A solid core of lifelong supporters who follow their team through good times and bad, plus a turnover of others who are gripped by the enjoyment of watching their local team play at a new state of the art stadium helps. The "waste of money" £30m facility we have just invested in will raise our standards with new blood for years to come and will attract established good players who want to benefit from our set up. I know you think that training can be done in a park with jumpers put down as goal posts, and that the only medical facilities needed are a bucket of cold water and a sponge, but as always you fail to see the bigger picture. The stadium and the new facilities will bring in quality new players who recognise what we have got as being unique and exciting. Just a shame that not all "fans" have the vision to see that. If you haven't got the maturity to see the value of our infrastructure can I respectfully suggest that you stop slagging off what our magnificent club has achieved over recent years and turn your attentions to Whitehawk instead? UTA!![/p][/quote]QPR's ground only holds about 18,000 though so it's all relative, it wouldnt be full because of away fans not taking up allocations. If you have brilliant staff and players then yes training facilities only need to be rudimentary, you can teach tactics in a portakabin with a whiteboard no problem at all,, if they have hearts of lions then ability will win through. A bucket of water and sponge are not the answer to everything no and I never said that. It's not about what you've got it's about what you do with it, that is the key. And whitehawk have had 2 players done for match fixing so no won't be going there.[/p][/quote]So you expect to attract all those top rate players you keep raving about to train down at the local rec and to be taught tactics with a whiteboard? You do have some unusual ideas, I'll grant you that!![/p][/quote]No, but the point is, whatever the facilities are, the same things are being taught. It's all about the people not the facilities, of course modern prima donnas would only accept state of the art facilities, but then we don't tend to sign those sort of players, although the McCormack rumours sound very promising...[/p][/quote]So you are now contradicting what you said. Now you're agreeing that today's footballers want today's facilities. Call them all prima donnas if it makes you feel good, but I really don't see McCormack or any other good player coming to the type of club you advocate! Well thought through. Maybe time to go back to sweeping the roads of Mayfield - shouldn't take long! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 5

12:52pm Mon 30 Jun 14

tinker111 says...

J L a star never ever Conway was far better but what does Scholes know ??

Meantime ongoing trash story when is something new coming along like a new (low level) Asst manager who will grab at chance??
J L a star never ever Conway was far better but what does Scholes know ?? Meantime ongoing trash story when is something new coming along like a new (low level) Asst manager who will grab at chance?? tinker111
  • Score: 0

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