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Albion down in numbers for Lewes opener

The Argus: Sami Hyypia Sami Hyypia

Sami Hyypia may have difficulty following the customary approach of fielding a different team in each half when Albion open their pre-season programme at Lewes tomorrow.

As things stand Hyypia has a first team squad of 18 players.

Two of those, injured midfielders Andrew Crofts and Dale Stephens, are not available to the Seagulls' Finnish boss for the game at the Dripping Pan (3pm).

Hyypia may need to bolster numbers when Albion go to Pinatar in Spain next week for pre-season bonding and matches against Partick Thistle and Real Betis.

He can do that by dipping into the development squad, based nearby at La Manga.

Albion have until the end of August to get their first team squad in place in terms of permanent transfers, although they can make loan signings after that.

They will have played their first five matches in the Championship and the Capital One Cup tie at home to Cheltenham by the time the transfer window closes.

Hyypia will want the group completely assembled well before then, ideally before the opening visit from Sheffield Wednesday on August 9.

There are gaps to fill and just over a month in which to fill them.

Are you worried about Albion's lack of transfer activity, or are you confident the squad will come together in time?

We'd love to know your thoughts.

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12:09pm Fri 4 Jul 14

phewar says...

Don't panic! All will be well.
Don't panic! All will be well. phewar
  • Score: 5

12:10pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Not worried yet. Too soon for that. If we have no-one else in before the first game THEN I'll start being concerned.
Not worried yet. Too soon for that. If we have no-one else in before the first game THEN I'll start being concerned. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 11

12:15pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

They can start with a new contract for Andrea. #bringbackorlandi
They can start with a new contract for Andrea. #bringbackorlandi Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 34

12:28pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Gray says...

First pre-season game tomorrow, 5 weeks till first competitive game.

As it stands this could be our team/squad:

Ankergren, Bruno, Dunk, Greer, Chicksen, Lua-Lua, Toko, Crofts, Buckley, CMS, Ulloa. SUBS from Walton, Stephens, Augustein, Calderon, Forster-Caskey, March. Ince, Maksimenko.

With Ulloa likely to go & Crofts & Stephens injured we are stuggling to put out a team at the moment.

I can see why people are getting nervous about our apparent lack of Transfer activity. Hopefully this is just Tony Bloom playing his cards close to his chest ( pun intended ) otherwise it could be a long season.

I am sure we will be pleasantly surprised soon ! UTA

7 minutes after i make this comment on a previous story this article appears I feel plagiarised !!
First pre-season game tomorrow, 5 weeks till first competitive game. As it stands this could be our team/squad: Ankergren, Bruno, Dunk, Greer, Chicksen, Lua-Lua, Toko, Crofts, Buckley, CMS, Ulloa. SUBS from Walton, Stephens, Augustein, Calderon, Forster-Caskey, March. Ince, Maksimenko. With Ulloa likely to go & Crofts & Stephens injured we are stuggling to put out a team at the moment. I can see why people are getting nervous about our apparent lack of Transfer activity. Hopefully this is just Tony Bloom playing his cards close to his chest ( pun intended ) otherwise it could be a long season. I am sure we will be pleasantly surprised soon ! UTA 7 minutes after i make this comment on a previous story this article appears I feel plagiarised !! Gray
  • Score: 9

12:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment,
Up the Albion!!
As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

12:43pm Fri 4 Jul 14

4everaseagull says...

I like many other fans would like to see some players coming in as soon as possible, however we have to trust in the powers that be. TB is not just our chairman but a supporter like the rest of us. Do you really think he will allow us not to get a decent squad together bearing in mind the financial input from him. TB wants us to reach the Premier League as we all do we just have to accept the way the club is going about it financially. I am confident we will have a decent squad by the time the season kicks off.
I like many other fans would like to see some players coming in as soon as possible, however we have to trust in the powers that be. TB is not just our chairman but a supporter like the rest of us. Do you really think he will allow us not to get a decent squad together bearing in mind the financial input from him. TB wants us to reach the Premier League as we all do we just have to accept the way the club is going about it financially. I am confident we will have a decent squad by the time the season kicks off. 4everaseagull
  • Score: 8

12:57pm Fri 4 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity.

We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up.

In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important.

In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers.
We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers.

I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle.

I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture.

Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team.

I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum.
I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come.

I'll await that thumbs down.

Uta
Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity. We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up. In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important. In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers. We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers. I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle. I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture. Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team. I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum. I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come. I'll await that thumbs down. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 40

1:02pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

My thoughts...as it stands... Mid table finish at best!!!
My thoughts...as it stands... Mid table finish at best!!! Conelli98
  • Score: -4

1:07pm Fri 4 Jul 14

AlanDuffy says...

SMF20 wrote:
Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity.

We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up.

In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important.

In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers.
We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers.

I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle.

I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture.

Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team.

I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum.
I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come.

I'll await that thumbs down.

Uta
No thumbs down from me........agree totally - let's see what the coming weeks bring, hope our fears are unfounded.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity. We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up. In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important. In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers. We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers. I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle. I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture. Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team. I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum. I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come. I'll await that thumbs down. Uta[/p][/quote]No thumbs down from me........agree totally - let's see what the coming weeks bring, hope our fears are unfounded. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 5

1:18pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

no worries at this time, better to sign good players slowly rather than just grabbing people to fill in the gaps. Ok so we might have to bring in one or two of the DS lads for some of the friendly matches, is that such a bad thing to do, who knows one of them might just surprise us all.
no worries at this time, better to sign good players slowly rather than just grabbing people to fill in the gaps. Ok so we might have to bring in one or two of the DS lads for some of the friendly matches, is that such a bad thing to do, who knows one of them might just surprise us all. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

1:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

WhiteNoise says...

Would have thought that the club is waiting to see what happens with the Ulloa situation. Interested to see if he plays tomorrow. Just hope for all that things get sorted either way asap.
Would have thought that the club is waiting to see what happens with the Ulloa situation. Interested to see if he plays tomorrow. Just hope for all that things get sorted either way asap. WhiteNoise
  • Score: 5

1:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

heathgate says...

I am worried yes, without even a rumour of players being lined up it is looking like pre-season will again be a farce, like last year.
I am worried yes, without even a rumour of players being lined up it is looking like pre-season will again be a farce, like last year. heathgate
  • Score: -1

1:52pm Fri 4 Jul 14

heathgate says...

JeffLomer wrote:
As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment,
Up the Albion!!
How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy? heathgate
  • Score: 1

2:08pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Bostik says...

I'll play.
I'll play. Bostik
  • Score: 11

2:23pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Bostik wrote:
I'll play.
Choose your position... There's plenty available...
[quote][p][bold]Bostik[/bold] wrote: I'll play.[/p][/quote]Choose your position... There's plenty available... Conelli98
  • Score: 12

2:30pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Not worried.
There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players.
Stage one: Assessment (ongoing)
Stage two: action (on hold)
Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.
Not worried. There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players. Stage one: Assessment (ongoing) Stage two: action (on hold) Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 11

2:35pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Not worried.
There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players.
Stage one: Assessment (ongoing)
Stage two: action (on hold)
Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.
Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Not worried. There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players. Stage one: Assessment (ongoing) Stage two: action (on hold) Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

3:00pm Fri 4 Jul 14

fan since 61 says...

Mid table finish !!
I seem to remember the same comments about our squad this time last year. I will wager we make the playoffs again this year, cant see Sami opting for anything less
Mid table finish !! I seem to remember the same comments about our squad this time last year. I will wager we make the playoffs again this year, cant see Sami opting for anything less fan since 61
  • Score: 8

3:11pm Fri 4 Jul 14

heathgate says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Not worried.
There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players.
Stage one: Assessment (ongoing)
Stage two: action (on hold)
Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.
Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.
As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Not worried. There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players. Stage one: Assessment (ongoing) Stage two: action (on hold) Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.[/p][/quote]As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's. heathgate
  • Score: -20

3:18pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity.

We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up.

In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important.

In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers.
We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers.

I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle.

I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture.

Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team.

I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum.
I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come.

I'll await that thumbs down.

Uta
A number of good balanced and well reasoned points SMF20.
Like you I would feel a tad more relaxed if we were to get in a couple of the more urgent signings on your list (GK, CB & creative Midfielder) before the squad leaves for Spain. I say this in the context that Hyypia was quoted as being hopeful earlier this week of recruiting a couple of players by the end of it.
Whist like others I am more than happy to trust TB and let him empower the relevant people to get players in I don't quiet have the same confidence in David Burke and his team to deliver what Hyypia wants. No doubt David Burke is burning the midnight oil supporting Hyypia but we have no evidence as yet that he is producing any results.
Let's hope that we hear some positive news soon as far as acquisitions are concerned so we can in turn relax and look forward even more to what could be an exciting season.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Each to there own of course but I'd be fibbing if I said that I'm not worried by the lack of transfer activity. We have lost 13 players in the last 6 months including those on loan, aswell as a manager, 2 of his coaching team, a few development players and 2 of the scouting set up. In my mind and imho only, we have a massive amount to do in the next couple of weeks. Sami needs an assistant ASAP and ideally we won't still be shopping for players when the season starts... Preparation is so vitally important. In my mind the minimum requirement is 1 goalkeeper, 1 left back, 2 centre backs, 1 winger, 1 creative midfielder and 2 strikers. We took a hit in losing quality last close season... It appears that this season the hit is in numbers. I appreciate that FFP is something very much in our clubs mind but at the same time, we absolutely must remain competitive and challenging for the playoffs each season.... I fear that without this our numbers will dwindle. I love what TB has done for our club and I'm eternally grateful that he is our leader. Our stadium is magnificent, our training complex sensational. We just now need the Squad to complete the picture. Everything looks Premiership ready with exception of our squad. It is very well putting everything in place to get to the promised lad but when push comes to shove, first and foremost we are a football team. I don't want the earth or multi million pound signs... Just a few new recruits with a bit of quality that will keep us moving with forward momentum. I really do t want to be thinking about Gus and his quotes about hitting the ceiling in years to come. I'll await that thumbs down. Uta[/p][/quote]A number of good balanced and well reasoned points SMF20. Like you I would feel a tad more relaxed if we were to get in a couple of the more urgent signings on your list (GK, CB & creative Midfielder) before the squad leaves for Spain. I say this in the context that Hyypia was quoted as being hopeful earlier this week of recruiting a couple of players by the end of it. Whist like others I am more than happy to trust TB and let him empower the relevant people to get players in I don't quiet have the same confidence in David Burke and his team to deliver what Hyypia wants. No doubt David Burke is burning the midnight oil supporting Hyypia but we have no evidence as yet that he is producing any results. Let's hope that we hear some positive news soon as far as acquisitions are concerned so we can in turn relax and look forward even more to what could be an exciting season. UTA ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

3:29pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

heathgate wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Not worried.
There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players.
Stage one: Assessment (ongoing)
Stage two: action (on hold)
Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.
Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.
As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's.
1.to be filled with someone more reliable than sammy the cockwomble lee
2.david burkes still there isnt he?
3.whos on the transfer list?nobody?oh well
cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Not worried. There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players. Stage one: Assessment (ongoing) Stage two: action (on hold) Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.[/p][/quote]As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's.[/p][/quote]1.to be filled with someone more reliable than sammy the cockwomble lee 2.david burkes still there isnt he? 3.whos on the transfer list?nobody?oh well cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 8

3:32pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

heathgate wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Not worried.
There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players.
Stage one: Assessment (ongoing)
Stage two: action (on hold)
Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.
Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.
As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's.
There are vacancies in many areas both on and off the field but surely that is only a problem if the club don't act, and do you really think that they won't?
It's not a question of burying one's head in the sand, it's just a matter of having confidence in those that are tasked to rebuild the squad, and to fill those coaching jobs. The glass half empty brigade would have us believe that all is doom and gloom, that the club will not act quickly enough, but getting the right people takes time, coaches or players.

The Ulloa situation needs to be sorted, one way or the other, as the money we get for him, if he goes, could make a difference as to who we can bring in, bring in to replace him and for other positions, more money available might lead to better quality recruits. I don't see how the club can be blamed for not getting him sold when they clearly don't want to sell him, but his sale would change things as far as transfers go.

Empty scouting department, what do you think that we only had two scouts? Players on the list for transfers, who have we listed? Your comments, largely don't have any merit as they are not backed up by true facts, that's what is so annoying about the glass half empty brigade.
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: Not worried. There was much debate about the selection of a manager who would merely do as he's told, but the fact we've made no signings yet, suggests to me Hyppia is most definitely in the driving seat on players. Stage one: Assessment (ongoing) Stage two: action (on hold) Had stage two begun happening already, I'd be worried that he wasn't pulling the strings.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, the glass half empty brigade would complain either way, there is no pleasing some.[/p][/quote]As opposed to the brain half empty brigade who have their collective heads buried deep in the sand........ there is plenty to be concerned about....1) Inexperience and low numbers in the coaching team,.. 2) empty scouting department.... 3) players either already gone, or on the list for trf's.[/p][/quote]There are vacancies in many areas both on and off the field but surely that is only a problem if the club don't act, and do you really think that they won't? It's not a question of burying one's head in the sand, it's just a matter of having confidence in those that are tasked to rebuild the squad, and to fill those coaching jobs. The glass half empty brigade would have us believe that all is doom and gloom, that the club will not act quickly enough, but getting the right people takes time, coaches or players. The Ulloa situation needs to be sorted, one way or the other, as the money we get for him, if he goes, could make a difference as to who we can bring in, bring in to replace him and for other positions, more money available might lead to better quality recruits. I don't see how the club can be blamed for not getting him sold when they clearly don't want to sell him, but his sale would change things as far as transfers go. Empty scouting department, what do you think that we only had two scouts? Players on the list for transfers, who have we listed? Your comments, largely don't have any merit as they are not backed up by true facts, that's what is so annoying about the glass half empty brigade. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

3:54pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

OK things are moving slowly but I think we're like a swan. All calm on the surface but a lot of activity out of sight. I'm sure we'll get some good news soon, so stop being so impatient and let the people tasked with getting the job done, get on with it. UTA
OK things are moving slowly but I think we're like a swan. All calm on the surface but a lot of activity out of sight. I'm sure we'll get some good news soon, so stop being so impatient and let the people tasked with getting the job done, get on with it. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

3:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jules boy says...

Quality not quantity, it will all come good I'm sure.
Quality not quantity, it will all come good I'm sure. Jules boy
  • Score: 5

4:06pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

thought Hypia said 'hope to have a couple by the end of the week ' ? Catching the BHA bull**** line quickly !
thought Hypia said 'hope to have a couple by the end of the week ' ? Catching the BHA bull**** line quickly ! Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: -9

4:08pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Tommy11 says...

It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans. Tommy11
  • Score: 6

4:34pm Fri 4 Jul 14

simonespencer-bourne says...

Bring Orlandi back
Bring Orlandi back simonespencer-bourne
  • Score: 6

4:37pm Fri 4 Jul 14

STEFAN68 says...

phewar wrote:
Don't panic! All will be well.
I VERY MUCH HOPE SO.
[quote][p][bold]phewar[/bold] wrote: Don't panic! All will be well.[/p][/quote]I VERY MUCH HOPE SO. STEFAN68
  • Score: 7

4:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another.

Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team.

You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want.

You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one.

Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum.

A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want?
Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another. Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team. You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want. You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one. Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum. A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want? Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

5:01pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?
Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website? Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Cliify0002 says...

To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up
To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up Cliify0002
  • Score: -6

5:06pm Fri 4 Jul 14

hannover seagull says...

Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere.
Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere.
We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit
There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow
Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there
UTA....
Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere. Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere. We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there UTA.... hannover seagull
  • Score: 8

5:23pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another.

Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team.

You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want.

You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one.

Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum.

A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want?
Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.
The only element I agree with from Tommy's post is lack of communication. Aranalde's departure is a case in point. No explanation and no statement reflecting a long term plan. It's why the conspiracy theories start.
Apart from that, I'm in disagreement and others have reflected that adequately enough.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another. Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team. You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want. You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one. Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum. A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want? Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.[/p][/quote]The only element I agree with from Tommy's post is lack of communication. Aranalde's departure is a case in point. No explanation and no statement reflecting a long term plan. It's why the conspiracy theories start. Apart from that, I'm in disagreement and others have reflected that adequately enough. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -4

5:25pm Fri 4 Jul 14

AlfieT says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another.

Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team.

You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want.

You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one.

Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum.

A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want?
Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.
You can't please all of the people all of the time, clearly Tommy11 is less than happy. The fact is the club has become in a way a hard nosed faceless business, it will make decisions that are not popular with the fans and for sure not all the decisions will be correct. As you point out Vegas Bloom brought Barber in to make those decisions, to manage in his absence.
I guess as fans we all have a choice, go with it and accept our club is evolving at a rapid pace, or jump off and find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. The thirteen seasons I sat and supported this club at Withdean in at times horrible conditions both on and off the pitch is a stark reminder just how far we have come.
As I said, we all have a choice, and yes we haven't landed 4 or 5 new players yet, but they will come, just be patient, I love this club and the perpetual roller coaster ride that goes with it.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another. Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team. You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want. You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one. Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum. A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want? Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.[/p][/quote]You can't please all of the people all of the time, clearly Tommy11 is less than happy. The fact is the club has become in a way a hard nosed faceless business, it will make decisions that are not popular with the fans and for sure not all the decisions will be correct. As you point out Vegas Bloom brought Barber in to make those decisions, to manage in his absence. I guess as fans we all have a choice, go with it and accept our club is evolving at a rapid pace, or jump off and find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. The thirteen seasons I sat and supported this club at Withdean in at times horrible conditions both on and off the pitch is a stark reminder just how far we have come. As I said, we all have a choice, and yes we haven't landed 4 or 5 new players yet, but they will come, just be patient, I love this club and the perpetual roller coaster ride that goes with it. AlfieT
  • Score: 9

5:28pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?
It could Van Gaal might have come down south,and then of course changed his mind.

the glass is always half full that is unless you have a sip.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?[/p][/quote]It could Van Gaal might have come down south,and then of course changed his mind. the glass is always half full that is unless you have a sip. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 1

5:28pm Fri 4 Jul 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Totally agree with every single word, GREAT post
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with every single word, GREAT post The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?
It could Van Gaal might have come down south,and then of course changed his mind.

the glass is always half full that is unless you have a sip.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?[/p][/quote]It could Van Gaal might have come down south,and then of course changed his mind. the glass is always half full that is unless you have a sip. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

5:30pm Fri 4 Jul 14

simonespencer-bourne says...

Bring back Orlandi
Bring back Orlandi simonespencer-bourne
  • Score: 4

5:32pm Fri 4 Jul 14

heathgate says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere.
Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere.
We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit
There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow
Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there
UTA....
I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed.....

http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/team-
transfers-championsh
ip
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere. Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere. We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there UTA....[/p][/quote]I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed..... http://www1.skysport s.com/football/team- transfers-championsh ip heathgate
  • Score: -7

5:33pm Fri 4 Jul 14

The unwilling Frenchman says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Hi Tommy,
Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong.
Totally agree with every word you say
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Hi Tommy, Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong. Totally agree with every word you say The unwilling Frenchman
  • Score: 0

5:35pm Fri 4 Jul 14

AlfieT says...

The unwilling Frenchman wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Hi Tommy,
Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong.
Totally agree with every word you say
So you said, twice.
[quote][p][bold]The unwilling Frenchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Hi Tommy, Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong. Totally agree with every word you say[/p][/quote]So you said, twice. AlfieT
  • Score: -5

5:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up
another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up[/p][/quote]another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

and the unwilling frenchman.someones been busy creating multiple logins. cockwomble
and the unwilling frenchman.someones been busy creating multiple logins. cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 4

6:02pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ringtone says...

simonespencer-bourne wrote:
Bring back Orlandi
This guy would be anyones first pick when naming a freeloaders world eleven.
[quote][p][bold]simonespencer-bourne[/bold] wrote: Bring back Orlandi[/p][/quote]This guy would be anyones first pick when naming a freeloaders world eleven. ringtone
  • Score: -9

6:11pm Fri 4 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Cockwomble wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up
another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble
They all must live down the same street all in breds, one thing is there never wrong ever when they post there worthless posts!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up[/p][/quote]another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble[/p][/quote]They all must live down the same street all in breds, one thing is there never wrong ever when they post there worthless posts!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -2

6:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

AlfieT wrote:
The unwilling Frenchman wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Hi Tommy,
Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong.
Totally agree with every word you say
So you said, twice.
So what, exactly, is going wrong?
Please, please outline the areas you mean so we can discuss.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The unwilling Frenchman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Hi Tommy, Ignore the posters who just accept everything that comes out of BHA plc, We need strong people to point out when its going wrong. Totally agree with every word you say[/p][/quote]So you said, twice.[/p][/quote]So what, exactly, is going wrong? Please, please outline the areas you mean so we can discuss. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

6:18pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

AlfieT wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another.

Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team.

You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want.

You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one.

Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum.

A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want?
Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.
You can't please all of the people all of the time, clearly Tommy11 is less than happy. The fact is the club has become in a way a hard nosed faceless business, it will make decisions that are not popular with the fans and for sure not all the decisions will be correct. As you point out Vegas Bloom brought Barber in to make those decisions, to manage in his absence.
I guess as fans we all have a choice, go with it and accept our club is evolving at a rapid pace, or jump off and find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. The thirteen seasons I sat and supported this club at Withdean in at times horrible conditions both on and off the pitch is a stark reminder just how far we have come.
As I said, we all have a choice, and yes we haven't landed 4 or 5 new players yet, but they will come, just be patient, I love this club and the perpetual roller coaster ride that goes with it.
Agree with most,at withdean you had to be a FAN,have got wet at the Amex.

Barber has been brought in to try and get the books in order and give Bloom some cash back when it comes to payback on the 80 plus million he is owed,do not think he wants it all in shares.

Rollercoaster unfortunateley does go down aswell.

Players will come in,hope they are good enough,andnot leftovers.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Barber is a money man, no denying that as this is exactly why he was brought in by Bloom. Someone has to manage our finances, both inward and outward, if it wasn't Barber it would be another. Yep some of us just can't get to the games due to our location, and yep some of us will still buy the shirts, but just because we are too far away to attend does not deminish our opinions or support for the club. Clubs such as Man United or Barca, have fans all over the world, very few of which ever get to see their team play, but the money made from those fans is just as important as that from those who can get to watch the team. You didn't want Hyppia, oh well, I guess you will just have to live with the fact that he is now our manager. None of us get everything we want. You think the new shirt is cheap and nasty, ok just don't buy one. Those that consistently submit comments with a, 'glass half empty,' approach will never be satisfied, nothing is ever right for them, and if the club do do something that is good, they just look for the next thing to moan about. I prefer upbeat to dead beat, as I think you will find most do on this forum. A fan revolution is what you are looking for, get rid of Burke, Barber, Hyppia, and anyone else that you don't like, but if that were to happen, then you will have to get rid of Tony Bloom too, is that what you want? Today Bloom is Brighton FC, he pays the piper and he calls the tune, if you can't handle that then withdraw your support for the club, it's that easy, good luck trying to find the thousands of other supporters you will need to force your fan revolution thru.[/p][/quote]You can't please all of the people all of the time, clearly Tommy11 is less than happy. The fact is the club has become in a way a hard nosed faceless business, it will make decisions that are not popular with the fans and for sure not all the decisions will be correct. As you point out Vegas Bloom brought Barber in to make those decisions, to manage in his absence. I guess as fans we all have a choice, go with it and accept our club is evolving at a rapid pace, or jump off and find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. The thirteen seasons I sat and supported this club at Withdean in at times horrible conditions both on and off the pitch is a stark reminder just how far we have come. As I said, we all have a choice, and yes we haven't landed 4 or 5 new players yet, but they will come, just be patient, I love this club and the perpetual roller coaster ride that goes with it.[/p][/quote]Agree with most,at withdean you had to be a FAN,have got wet at the Amex. Barber has been brought in to try and get the books in order and give Bloom some cash back when it comes to payback on the 80 plus million he is owed,do not think he wants it all in shares. Rollercoaster unfortunateley does go down aswell. Players will come in,hope they are good enough,andnot leftovers. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

6:25pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Asleep in Dorset says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?
Hello, Alan, I gather the orange kit will only be used as a last resort, so they're not marketing it.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Off topic, but does anyone know why the orange third kit does not show for sale on the club website?[/p][/quote]Hello, Alan, I gather the orange kit will only be used as a last resort, so they're not marketing it. Asleep in Dorset
  • Score: 1

6:30pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent.
The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not.
My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent. The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not. My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Andrea Orlandigasm wrote:
They can start with a new contract for Andrea. #bringbackorlandi
If Orlandi pays the club and is a non contract player the okay,maybe.
[quote][p][bold]Andrea Orlandigasm[/bold] wrote: They can start with a new contract for Andrea. #bringbackorlandi[/p][/quote]If Orlandi pays the club and is a non contract player the okay,maybe. ringtone
  • Score: -5

6:37pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Tommy11 wrote:
It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham.

Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!!

The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!!

Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online.

Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’.

Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it.

I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner.

The fans.
Fantastic.

Tommy please come and join Freeloaders, mark by the sea and Myself in the argus Hall of Fame.
[quote][p][bold]Tommy11[/bold] wrote: It’s not about being negative, it’s about being realistic. There are posters on this site (who are literally on the site 24/7) who would back the club if we decided to bull doze down the Amex, build a giant Burger King on the land and ground share with Gillingham. Personally, I am not happy with my club at all. There is no communication between club and fans at all. That has been evaporated. Barber is more keen to win over new fans ‘ who buy the merchandise’ than actual lifelong Albion fans. That’s the truth of it! The way we handle staff appointments is just a joke – I wish Sammi Hyppia all the best, but I didn’t want him. To be honest, he is just another ‘Yes’ man in the chain – which will not be broken until we change our ridiculous system, which is NOT WORKING!!!! The majority of the fans on his site who do nothing more than lick the clubs a**e are totally clueless!!!! There exactly what Barber is after!!! What makes me laugh as I said about a million times is that they don’t even go to the games!! It’s laughable!!! Paul Barber is a joke who needs to go. He is just a commercial money grabbing mercenary who will move on a few years’ time and do the same at another club. Look at the new Nike Kit??? It looks cheap and nasty and they want us to pay £45 for it?? There was no thought in the design whatsoever! It’s all very slap dash and just looks cheap. But of course, Vegas, Ex-Pat Arnie will be first in line to order there’s online. Now, there is nothing wrong with that. We do need these fans, and there money when it comes to buying cheap tack. But, I will not stand for these fans having a go at others for being ‘glass half empty’. Were BHA – were used to internal politics wars– remember it was us fans who ran out Archer – we knew something was up, and we did something about it. I’m not saying that were going through the same, but a number of us are getting frustrated with the way the club is being run and there is only ever going to be one winner. The fans.[/p][/quote]Fantastic. Tommy please come and join Freeloaders, mark by the sea and Myself in the argus Hall of Fame. ringtone
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

simonespencer-bourne wrote:
Bring back Orlandi
bring back Peter Ward
[quote][p][bold]simonespencer-bourne[/bold] wrote: Bring back Orlandi[/p][/quote]bring back Peter Ward Conelli98
  • Score: 0

6:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Why on earth would anyone think that we should have signed any players yet?
Sami hasn't had an opportunity to assess what his requirements will be until this week, but presumably he will have a much clearer idea after working with the squad.
The point at which concern can reasonably be expressed if there are no signings, starts this weekend.
If there had been signings before now, it would be David Burke's team. The timing of this suggests that we will be going into the new season with a team assembled by Sami Hyypia.
Why on earth would anyone think that we should have signed any players yet? Sami hasn't had an opportunity to assess what his requirements will be until this week, but presumably he will have a much clearer idea after working with the squad. The point at which concern can reasonably be expressed if there are no signings, starts this weekend. If there had been signings before now, it would be David Burke's team. The timing of this suggests that we will be going into the new season with a team assembled by Sami Hyypia. gordongull
  • Score: 0

6:46pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent.
The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not.
My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.
John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?.

After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors.

The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?.

Sorry but vegas has not got it for years
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent. The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not. My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.[/p][/quote]John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?. After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors. The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?. Sorry but vegas has not got it for years don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

6:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent.
The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not.
My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.
John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?.

After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors.

The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?.

Sorry but vegas has not got it for years
Actually, no way was Lee their fault, so I do t think that's reflective of the overall necessity.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent. The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not. My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.[/p][/quote]John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?. After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors. The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?. Sorry but vegas has not got it for years[/p][/quote]Actually, no way was Lee their fault, so I do t think that's reflective of the overall necessity. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent.
The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not.
My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.
John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?.

After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors.

The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?.

Sorry but vegas has not got it for years
Actually, no way was Lee their fault, so I do t think that's reflective of the overall necessity.
Who said it lee was Albion's fault ,he broke his word.

Think Southampton did not really know what the hell happend.

I am saying that Albion should wait till the player-coach now also scout has been with the club for at least 2 weeks before they let us know (joke).

If and when the Argus get a snippet of news is it not good for posters FANS to get their teeth in,the mail does and they have thousands of giving their opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]My answer to a post i generally agree with is to say that I think the club have adequately reflected their wider strategy in terms of budgets and FFP etc but in terms of dealing with day-to-day issues, they're extremely reticent. The business principles are clear and the current transfer strategy, lines of responsibility etc. are equally so, but the daily requirement for reaction to football decisions are not. My view is I agree with the business approach and the general management, but get the daily stuff right and people will be more inclined to accept the wider direction rather than question it.[/p][/quote]John vinicombe was the man for the argus news but that was when ?. After the lee fiasco i think Albion are right to keep things indoors. The FFP ok but budget do you know how much ?. Sorry but vegas has not got it for years[/p][/quote]Actually, no way was Lee their fault, so I do t think that's reflective of the overall necessity.[/p][/quote]Who said it lee was Albion's fault ,he broke his word. Think Southampton did not really know what the hell happend. I am saying that Albion should wait till the player-coach now also scout has been with the club for at least 2 weeks before they let us know (joke). If and when the Argus get a snippet of news is it not good for posters FANS to get their teeth in,the mail does and they have thousands of giving their opinion. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

7:25pm Fri 4 Jul 14

hannover seagull says...

heathgate wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere.
Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere.
We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit
There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow
Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there
UTA....
I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed.....

http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/team-

transfers-championsh

ip
Agree to a point,but nothing earth shaking going on.
Why can´t people get their heads around the fact that we have a new guy in the driving seat and he may want to do things his way.
I think Hypia is potentially the best thing that has come our way for years.
Give him and the club a shot,and then judge
UTA
(eyes wide open)
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere. Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere. We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there UTA....[/p][/quote]I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed..... http://www1.skysport s.com/football/team- transfers-championsh ip[/p][/quote]Agree to a point,but nothing earth shaking going on. Why can´t people get their heads around the fact that we have a new guy in the driving seat and he may want to do things his way. I think Hypia is potentially the best thing that has come our way for years. Give him and the club a shot,and then judge UTA (eyes wide open) hannover seagull
  • Score: 1

7:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
Here i go.
You of course know all the facts not just an opinion.

If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal).

Where do you get instant premiership from.

Does your wife tell you everything.

The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!![/p][/quote]Here i go. You of course know all the facts not just an opinion. If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal). Where do you get instant premiership from. Does your wife tell you everything. The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

8:16pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
Cliify0002 wrote:
To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up
another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble
They all must live down the same street all in breds, one thing is there never wrong ever when they post there worthless posts!!
Up the Albion!!
Do not agree with the poster bit nasty,but that you stoop that low.

I thought,now proven you are in the same category as your own post.

Get a life.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: To be honest and it hurts a skint club due to paying for t ground Albion have no chance of play off places and I feel it's a lack of ambition those in charge have nothing to spend I have cancelled my ticket this year . To many background foul ups to make me feel any diff, I don't see anyone coming here , sammy lee etc it's due to the brand is all policy. It's not a football club anymore the team mean zilch , it's how much money the bosses get rules. No ones coming here cos we are past the point where we should have been promoted and let's face it Albion can't afford to go up[/p][/quote]another brand new cockwomble.is someone breeding them?cockwomble[/p][/quote]They all must live down the same street all in breds, one thing is there never wrong ever when they post there worthless posts!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Do not agree with the poster bit nasty,but that you stoop that low. I thought,now proven you are in the same category as your own post. Get a life. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 3

8:32pm Fri 4 Jul 14

hannover seagull says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
Here i go.
You of course know all the facts not just an opinion.

If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal).

Where do you get instant premiership from.

Does your wife tell you everything.

The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.
If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about
This project is built for success and in the near future
UTA.....
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!![/p][/quote]Here i go. You of course know all the facts not just an opinion. If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal). Where do you get instant premiership from. Does your wife tell you everything. The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.[/p][/quote]If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer Do you have any idea of what you are talking about This project is built for success and in the near future UTA..... hannover seagull
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Fri 4 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Well, for starters, how about the fact that our last two managers have clearly fallen out with the board?!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Well, for starters, how about the fact that our last two managers have clearly fallen out with the board?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Fri 4 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Sorry - my post above was intended as a response to AiS @ 6.17pm rather than to Vegas!
Sorry - my post above was intended as a response to AiS @ 6.17pm rather than to Vegas! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

9:21pm Fri 4 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

heathgate wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment,
Up the Albion!!
How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy?
Because I'm more patient than you by the sound off it, what's the hurry five weeks to the season starts, we can't announce any new signings if we ain't signed any, you and your cronies need to calm down and chill, players are going to come in soon,
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy?[/p][/quote]Because I'm more patient than you by the sound off it, what's the hurry five weeks to the season starts, we can't announce any new signings if we ain't signed any, you and your cronies need to calm down and chill, players are going to come in soon, JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

9:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

hannover seagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
Here i go.
You of course know all the facts not just an opinion.

If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal).

Where do you get instant premiership from.

Does your wife tell you everything.

The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.
If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about
This project is built for success and in the near future
UTA.....
To be honest mate NO he ain't got a clue, he wastes his time talking crap!!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!![/p][/quote]Here i go. You of course know all the facts not just an opinion. If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal). Where do you get instant premiership from. Does your wife tell you everything. The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.[/p][/quote]If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer Do you have any idea of what you are talking about This project is built for success and in the near future UTA.....[/p][/quote]To be honest mate NO he ain't got a clue, he wastes his time talking crap!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -5

10:31pm Fri 4 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Merchants of doom and gloom have been coming out of the virtual woodwork in their droves, over the past few weeks. There seem to be one or two new ones every day. Even Ringtone has got his work cut out to stand out from the crowd. Fortunately, Ringtone has a sense of humour, a Wind-Up Comedian of considerable talent, but the rest of what has been appearing recently is very depressing to read.
What is all this pessimism based on?
Absolutely nothing!
They tell us we haven't signed any players. So what? the season hasn't started yet.
They say there is no money to spend. Have they hot got this information from Mr Bloom?
They say that people are leaving. So what? If we can get by without them, it will save the Club money. If not, they will be replaced.
We are told that mid-table is the best we can hope for. What is the point of saying that? A ball hasn't been kicked yet!
One JCL defeatist/wum produces a catalogue of new problems every day. Utterly pathetic.
The Club is ambitious, but can't compete financially with many others in the Division.
We will kick off the new season with a full squad, and if we do well, the pessimists/wums will retreat back into the woodwork. If we have setbacks during the course of the campaign, they will have something genuine to comment about.
At this moment in time, there is nothing.
Merchants of doom and gloom have been coming out of the virtual woodwork in their droves, over the past few weeks. There seem to be one or two new ones every day. Even Ringtone has got his work cut out to stand out from the crowd. Fortunately, Ringtone has a sense of humour, a Wind-Up Comedian of considerable talent, but the rest of what has been appearing recently is very depressing to read. What is all this pessimism based on? Absolutely nothing! They tell us we haven't signed any players. So what? the season hasn't started yet. They say there is no money to spend. Have they hot got this information from Mr Bloom? They say that people are leaving. So what? If we can get by without them, it will save the Club money. If not, they will be replaced. We are told that mid-table is the best we can hope for. What is the point of saying that? A ball hasn't been kicked yet! One JCL defeatist/wum produces a catalogue of new problems every day. Utterly pathetic. The Club is ambitious, but can't compete financially with many others in the Division. We will kick off the new season with a full squad, and if we do well, the pessimists/wums will retreat back into the woodwork. If we have setbacks during the course of the campaign, they will have something genuine to comment about. At this moment in time, there is nothing. gordongull
  • Score: 3

10:47pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Regardless of what some people say I am concerned about the lack of players, never mind the quality. There is definitely an uneasiness blowing in the wind this summer. Driving past the Amex the other day I noticed even the seagull on the club emblem on the wall had a downturned beak.
Regardless of what some people say I am concerned about the lack of players, never mind the quality. There is definitely an uneasiness blowing in the wind this summer. Driving past the Amex the other day I noticed even the seagull on the club emblem on the wall had a downturned beak. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -2

10:48pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

gordongull is right.wums are cockwombles
gordongull is right.wums are cockwombles Cockwomble
  • Score: 2

10:59pm Fri 4 Jul 14

hannover seagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
heathgate wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment,
Up the Albion!!
How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy?
Because I'm more patient than you by the sound off it, what's the hurry five weeks to the season starts, we can't announce any new signings if we ain't signed any, you and your cronies need to calm down and chill, players are going to come in soon,
Anyway Jeff
We don´t have to change the chant that much

Sami Hypia
Drinks German Bier
He came from Bayer to bring us joy

The rest i´m struggling with
Please advise
UTA..
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: As long as were ready for Sheffield Wednesday no need to panic at the moment, Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]How is that going to happen without new players having a few weeks and a few games of familiarisation with the managers plan and strategy?[/p][/quote]Because I'm more patient than you by the sound off it, what's the hurry five weeks to the season starts, we can't announce any new signings if we ain't signed any, you and your cronies need to calm down and chill, players are going to come in soon,[/p][/quote]Anyway Jeff We don´t have to change the chant that much Sami Hypia Drinks German Bier He came from Bayer to bring us joy The rest i´m struggling with Please advise UTA.. hannover seagull
  • Score: -4

11:04pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton.
I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes.
Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton. I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

11:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton.
I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes.
Sky sports transfer section has a brief article to which I am referring.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton. I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes.[/p][/quote]Sky sports transfer section has a brief article to which I am referring. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

11:06pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

We have a full squad now,even if Albion sign no one.
If albion do well the half full will say where are the half full now.
If albion do bad the half full will say here we go the wums are here.
No win no fee,always right.

Think every poster(fan-supporter
) wants Albion to have a great season.

There is nothing wrong at the moment,be honest the clock is ticking.
We have a full squad now,even if Albion sign no one. If albion do well the half full will say where are the half full now. If albion do bad the half full will say here we go the wums are here. No win no fee,always right. Think every poster(fan-supporter ) wants Albion to have a great season. There is nothing wrong at the moment,be honest the clock is ticking. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

11:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

OldGull says...

heathgate wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere.
Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere.
We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit
There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow
Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there
UTA....
I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed.....

http://www1.skysport

s.com/football/team-

transfers-championsh

ip
whilst I agree our list is very short.
The lists on sky include players moving during the 2nd half of last season.
So you may find other teams lists are much shorter than you think.

Be patient.......
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Have a look around and see how much transfer activity is happening elsewhere. Apart from the Luke Shaws and Lullana´s of this world it is all very quiet apart from free´s and offloading everywhere. We have a new manager that has just started to find his way around and no doubt he will want his style and players to suit There is money at the club and there will be signings to follow Sami has already stated his priorities so, lets take it from there UTA....[/p][/quote]I think you need to opoen your eyes and actually see how many players are moving into Championship teams,.... our list is very short indeed..... http://www1.skysport s.com/football/team- transfers-championsh ip[/p][/quote]whilst I agree our list is very short. The lists on sky include players moving during the 2nd half of last season. So you may find other teams lists are much shorter than you think. Be patient....... OldGull
  • Score: 0

11:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

OldGull says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Regardless of what some people say I am concerned about the lack of players, never mind the quality. There is definitely an uneasiness blowing in the wind this summer. Driving past the Amex the other day I noticed even the seagull on the club emblem on the wall had a downturned beak.
That's because he saw you coming.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Regardless of what some people say I am concerned about the lack of players, never mind the quality. There is definitely an uneasiness blowing in the wind this summer. Driving past the Amex the other day I noticed even the seagull on the club emblem on the wall had a downturned beak.[/p][/quote]That's because he saw you coming. OldGull
  • Score: 4

11:43pm Fri 4 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton.
I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes.
Sky sports transfer section has a brief article to which I am referring.
harry is having problems with rio's wages.

If you are willing to pay the rest of his wages that albion don't want to,im a happy bunny.

As Dick Emery used to say"you are awful but i like you"
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ashley Cole has left Chelsea, apparently he is not leaving for money but to play more games. Roma want him, clubs in Australia and America also want him, if he wants games and is not fussed about his wages, why not try to get him to Brighton. I seem to recall an article suggesting that he didn't want to go to America, maybe Australia is also too far for him too, we could be a good fit for his wishes.[/p][/quote]Sky sports transfer section has a brief article to which I am referring.[/p][/quote]harry is having problems with rio's wages. If you are willing to pay the rest of his wages that albion don't want to,im a happy bunny. As Dick Emery used to say"you are awful but i like you" don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -1

12:26am Sat 5 Jul 14

thetungsten says...

I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!! thetungsten
  • Score: 7

12:40am Sat 5 Jul 14

Upperweststand says...

thetungsten wrote:
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
Certainly 2 of your speculated transfer targets resonate true through what i have also heard!
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!![/p][/quote]Certainly 2 of your speculated transfer targets resonate true through what i have also heard! Upperweststand
  • Score: 5

12:41am Sat 5 Jul 14

Gray says...

A lot of posters on here who are supposedly in the know say our last 2 managers left because they fell out with the board.

I thought it was common knowledge why Oscar left the country with his family so quickly & why a certain goalkeeper is no longer with us ?
A lot of posters on here who are supposedly in the know say our last 2 managers left because they fell out with the board. I thought it was common knowledge why Oscar left the country with his family so quickly & why a certain goalkeeper is no longer with us ? Gray
  • Score: -4

12:43am Sat 5 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

thetungsten wrote:
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.
[quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!![/p][/quote]very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

12:57am Sat 5 Jul 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.
All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!![/p][/quote]very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.[/p][/quote]All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down ringtone
  • Score: -6

1:58am Sat 5 Jul 14

daughter-of-manag says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.
All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down
Ringtone, you are such a turkey.

Reading some of the soothsayer posts, it's hard to believe that some of you remember where we have come from, at where we are at right now. I would rather have mid table Championship mediocrity than bankruptcy. We have a good squad, and I trust the board to do whatever it takes to push for Premiership and keep us financially viable. The moaning and groaning is quite tiresome to read; I'm as keen as anyone to see new signings - and the lack of news is a tad frustrating. ... but I never want to be in Portsmouth or Glasgow Ranger's position ..... Ever!!!

BTW cockwomble, your posts always seem to bring a smile to my face. Thanks.

Come on you Seagulls!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!![/p][/quote]very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.[/p][/quote]All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down[/p][/quote]Ringtone, you are such a turkey. Reading some of the soothsayer posts, it's hard to believe that some of you remember where we have come from, at where we are at right now. I would rather have mid table Championship mediocrity than bankruptcy. We have a good squad, and I trust the board to do whatever it takes to push for Premiership and keep us financially viable. The moaning and groaning is quite tiresome to read; I'm as keen as anyone to see new signings - and the lack of news is a tad frustrating. ... but I never want to be in Portsmouth or Glasgow Ranger's position ..... Ever!!! BTW cockwomble, your posts always seem to bring a smile to my face. Thanks. Come on you Seagulls! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: 5

4:17am Sat 5 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

hannover seagull wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
Here i go.
You of course know all the facts not just an opinion.

If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal).

Where do you get instant premiership from.

Does your wife tell you everything.

The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.
If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about
This project is built for success and in the near future
UTA.....
The 10/15 year bit was about being a consistent top flight, possibly title challenging team in the Premiership year in year out. It was not my timescale for achieving promotion as you seem to interpret. Try rereading that . Achieving that kind of staus won't happen overnight. Perhaps I should have made that clearer. But that seems to be the only point you disagree on.

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!![/p][/quote]Here i go. You of course know all the facts not just an opinion. If you pay good money think your entitled to a good (meal). Where do you get instant premiership from. Does your wife tell you everything. The part in 10/15 years sorry....can'tstop laughing.[/p][/quote]If it has to take 10/15 years before(Top Flight) the Amex will be a swamp in Falmer Do you have any idea of what you are talking about This project is built for success and in the near future UTA.....[/p][/quote]The 10/15 year bit was about being a consistent top flight, possibly title challenging team in the Premiership year in year out. It was not my timescale for achieving promotion as you seem to interpret. Try rereading that . Achieving that kind of staus won't happen overnight. Perhaps I should have made that clearer. But that seems to be the only point you disagree on. UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 6

9:37am Sat 5 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

daughter-of-manag wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
thetungsten wrote:
I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!!
very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.
All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down
Ringtone, you are such a turkey.

Reading some of the soothsayer posts, it's hard to believe that some of you remember where we have come from, at where we are at right now. I would rather have mid table Championship mediocrity than bankruptcy. We have a good squad, and I trust the board to do whatever it takes to push for Premiership and keep us financially viable. The moaning and groaning is quite tiresome to read; I'm as keen as anyone to see new signings - and the lack of news is a tad frustrating. ... but I never want to be in Portsmouth or Glasgow Ranger's position ..... Ever!!!

BTW cockwomble, your posts always seem to bring a smile to my face. Thanks.

Come on you Seagulls!
always happy to keep cockwombling
[quote][p][bold]daughter-of-manag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thetungsten[/bold] wrote: I mentioned a week ago that we were in talks with Luke Ayling from Yeovil which we were ( Adam Virgo confirmed)..... however we have since cooled our interest and are now in talks with Dortmund for Greece international Sokratis Papastathopoulos. Additionally we are set to recruit Michy Batshuayi a striker from marseille ahead of spurs and Swansea- although a loan deal is most likely. Also there are talks of signing Sam Johnstone from Man U a goalkeeper although it wasn't clear if that was a signing or a loan deal! Shoot me of I'm wrong!!![/p][/quote]very interesting, let's hope that if any of these deals can be sorted, they are sorted in the very near future. Thanks for the info.[/p][/quote]All of them sound crap, no wonder season ticket sales our down[/p][/quote]Ringtone, you are such a turkey. Reading some of the soothsayer posts, it's hard to believe that some of you remember where we have come from, at where we are at right now. I would rather have mid table Championship mediocrity than bankruptcy. We have a good squad, and I trust the board to do whatever it takes to push for Premiership and keep us financially viable. The moaning and groaning is quite tiresome to read; I'm as keen as anyone to see new signings - and the lack of news is a tad frustrating. ... but I never want to be in Portsmouth or Glasgow Ranger's position ..... Ever!!! BTW cockwomble, your posts always seem to bring a smile to my face. Thanks. Come on you Seagulls![/p][/quote]always happy to keep cockwombling Cockwomble
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8:55am Wed 9 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
An excellent post.

Archer and Bellotti were underhanded filth but I see nothing to liken our current regime in any way, shape or form to those low life dog excrementalists! Those that complain about the club being an unrecognisable and faceless organisation need to keep in mind the magnitude of that distinction.

The club are certainly not perfect but they appear to me to be doing an awful lot RIGHT.

MBTS and other (quite rightly) complained in the past about our youth set-up and coaching. We have now delivered a world class academy and training complex to rival the very best. Clearly we are intent on aspiring to Southampton's superb model.

Sticking two fingers up to FFP while the rules remain in place and leaving us subject to sanction - UNLESS WE HEAR VERY SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE - is IMHO utterly mental! Tony B clearly agrees. He simply won't throw mulit-millions into a "war chest" and neither should he. What he can do is pile vast sums into infrastructure as it is exempt from the FFP restrictions. He has done just that with a top spec stadium (he didn't need to make the seats so comfortable for example!) and a top spec training base.

Under his instruction, Barber has secured a large number of lucrative corporate deals for sponsorship etc (just how many official partners do we have??? The answer is LOTS!).

The much maligned CEO also takes the trouble to personally answer any coherent and reasonable enquiries. How many clubs in The Football League, let alone PL, do that? Yet some on here (aside from the tediously unoriginal WUMs) complain at lack of communications. Exactly what do those people want from the club? Public revelation to the press of all our transfer targets? The specifics of why Day and Aranalde left? I've a pretty strong hunch that would be sensitive info and they're reluctant to risk misleading or implying anything with a cautiously worded statement that hides more that it says.

Yes we have a lot of corporate activity and a restricted player budget and are a vastly different animal from the 'family-feel' creature we were but that unprofessionally casual approach wouldn't survive where we now reside.

In fact we wouldn't have had a hope in hell of getting this far without the Bloom millions anyway.

I don't know about you lot but I don't want to do a Pompey or Leeds, or end up seeing us renting our own ground back at high rates from a new owner who took advantage of the financial crisis that would likely follow our reckless spending spree.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]An excellent post. Archer and Bellotti were underhanded filth but I see nothing to liken our current regime in any way, shape or form to those low life dog excrementalists! Those that complain about the club being an unrecognisable and faceless organisation need to keep in mind the magnitude of that distinction. The club are certainly not perfect but they appear to me to be doing an awful lot RIGHT. MBTS and other (quite rightly) complained in the past about our youth set-up and coaching. We have now delivered a world class academy and training complex to rival the very best. Clearly we are intent on aspiring to Southampton's superb model. Sticking two fingers up to FFP while the rules remain in place and leaving us subject to sanction - UNLESS WE HEAR VERY SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE - is IMHO utterly mental! Tony B clearly agrees. He simply won't throw mulit-millions into a "war chest" and neither should he. What he can do is pile vast sums into infrastructure as it is exempt from the FFP restrictions. He has done just that with a top spec stadium (he didn't need to make the seats so comfortable for example!) and a top spec training base. Under his instruction, Barber has secured a large number of lucrative corporate deals for sponsorship etc (just how many official partners do we have??? The answer is LOTS!). The much maligned CEO also takes the trouble to personally answer any coherent and reasonable enquiries. How many clubs in The Football League, let alone PL, do that? Yet some on here (aside from the tediously unoriginal WUMs) complain at lack of communications. Exactly what do those people want from the club? Public revelation to the press of all our transfer targets? The specifics of why Day and Aranalde left? I've a pretty strong hunch that would be sensitive info and they're reluctant to risk misleading or implying anything with a cautiously worded statement that hides more that it says. Yes we have a lot of corporate activity and a restricted player budget and are a vastly different animal from the 'family-feel' creature we were but that unprofessionally casual approach wouldn't survive where we now reside. In fact we wouldn't have had a hope in hell of getting this far without the Bloom millions anyway. I don't know about you lot but I don't want to do a Pompey or Leeds, or end up seeing us renting our own ground back at high rates from a new owner who took advantage of the financial crisis that would likely follow our reckless spending spree. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

9:02am Wed 9 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions.

In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games.

Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real.

In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team.

I believe.

UTA!!
Also an excellent post.
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas. I'd say it's a combination of attention seeking and insecurity. A need to prove to others that they know best - even though their knowledge of the key points they raise, such as budget figures, transfer targets etc is based only on their own assumptions. In reality, you only have to look at the progress made in the last five years to know that those running the club are doing an excellent job. Some would argue against that, but they are probably those like MBTS who expect instant Premiership for the money they pay. We will get there. There is such a thing as over trading and building too fast, whether that be in football or any other business. Those that expand too fast without the infrastructure to support themselves are the businesses which fail. Our infrastructure is now as good as any following big investment. Do people really think that having put so much in, TB and co will let the squad dissipate completely? Unlikely I think. Just be patient and watch the pre-season unfold. Players will come, some may go, but without a doubt we will have a full squad come the first games. Just because we don't know what's happening doesn't mean that nothing is happening. The fact that we don't know everything may be uncomfortable for some, but, with all due respect, we are not running the club, we are the fans, supporters, followers, whatever. It' easy to play at armchair management but thank God some of the more vocal people on here will never do it for real. In TB I trust. He's done a **** fine job so far and I see no reason to fear that will change as we move from strength to strength off field. It may be that the last thing to be built is the team, but that might just be the correct method of making sure that when we do get promotion we have a better chance than most of staying there. There's no reason why in 10/15 years time B&HA won't be an established, top flight Premiership team. I believe. UTA!![/p][/quote]Also an excellent post. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take.
What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS?

The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits.
The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are.
The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets.

Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS?

I don't get it.
An excellent post.

Archer and Bellotti were underhanded filth but I see nothing to liken our current regime in any way, shape or form to those low life dog excrementalists! Those that complain about the club being an unrecognisable and faceless organisation need to keep in mind the magnitude of that distinction.

The club are certainly not perfect but they appear to me to be doing an awful lot RIGHT.

MBTS and other (quite rightly) complained in the past about our youth set-up and coaching. We have now delivered a world class academy and training complex to rival the very best. Clearly we are intent on aspiring to Southampton's superb model.

Sticking two fingers up to FFP while the rules remain in place and leaving us subject to sanction - UNLESS WE HEAR VERY SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE - is IMHO utterly mental! Tony B clearly agrees. He simply won't throw mulit-millions into a "war chest" and neither should he. What he can do is pile vast sums into infrastructure as it is exempt from the FFP restrictions. He has done just that with a top spec stadium (he didn't need to make the seats so comfortable for example!) and a top spec training base.

Under his instruction, Barber has secured a large number of lucrative corporate deals for sponsorship etc (just how many official partners do we have??? The answer is LOTS!).

The much maligned CEO also takes the trouble to personally answer any coherent and reasonable enquiries. How many clubs in The Football League, let alone PL, do that? Yet some on here (aside from the tediously unoriginal WUMs) complain at lack of communications. Exactly what do those people want from the club? Public revelation to the press of all our transfer targets? The specifics of why Day and Aranalde left? I've a pretty strong hunch that would be sensitive info and they're reluctant to risk misleading or implying anything with a cautiously worded statement that hides more that it says.

Yes we have a lot of corporate activity and a restricted player budget and are a vastly different animal from the 'family-feel' creature we were but that unprofessionally casual approach wouldn't survive where we now reside.

In fact we wouldn't have had a hope in hell of getting this far without the Bloom millions anyway.

I don't know about you lot but I don't want to do a Pompey or Leeds, or end up seeing us renting our own ground back at high rates from a new owner who took advantage of the financial crisis that would likely follow our reckless spending spree.
F*ing superb post Cap'n H. Hope you don't mind, I'm gonna cut and paste it to the latest thread as I feel it should be seen and read by a wider audience than it will get here.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: A few of those that comment on here think that it's wrong to accept what the club is telling the press and fans alike, that seems like a odd attitude to take. What is so wrong in believeing what the club is telling us, why should we just assume that it's all BS? The club tells us that Hyppia will have a big say in whom we sign, so then we get the comments telling us that Hyppia is just a yes man to the suits. The club tells us that Hyppia will have a budget that he can work with, but then we get comments saying that our budget is woeful and not big enough to attract decent players, but nobody outside of the club knows what the budget numbers are. The club tells us that we will be FFP compliant, but then the comments from some say that we should ignore the FFP rules and that the suits are only following the rules so as to line their own pockets. Why is it that some just won't accept anything they are told and then complain that the club is not telling them enough, why ask for more if you think they are just handing out BS? I don't get it.[/p][/quote]An excellent post. Archer and Bellotti were underhanded filth but I see nothing to liken our current regime in any way, shape or form to those low life dog excrementalists! Those that complain about the club being an unrecognisable and faceless organisation need to keep in mind the magnitude of that distinction. The club are certainly not perfect but they appear to me to be doing an awful lot RIGHT. MBTS and other (quite rightly) complained in the past about our youth set-up and coaching. We have now delivered a world class academy and training complex to rival the very best. Clearly we are intent on aspiring to Southampton's superb model. Sticking two fingers up to FFP while the rules remain in place and leaving us subject to sanction - UNLESS WE HEAR VERY SPECIFICALLY OTHERWISE - is IMHO utterly mental! Tony B clearly agrees. He simply won't throw mulit-millions into a "war chest" and neither should he. What he can do is pile vast sums into infrastructure as it is exempt from the FFP restrictions. He has done just that with a top spec stadium (he didn't need to make the seats so comfortable for example!) and a top spec training base. Under his instruction, Barber has secured a large number of lucrative corporate deals for sponsorship etc (just how many official partners do we have??? The answer is LOTS!). The much maligned CEO also takes the trouble to personally answer any coherent and reasonable enquiries. How many clubs in The Football League, let alone PL, do that? Yet some on here (aside from the tediously unoriginal WUMs) complain at lack of communications. Exactly what do those people want from the club? Public revelation to the press of all our transfer targets? The specifics of why Day and Aranalde left? I've a pretty strong hunch that would be sensitive info and they're reluctant to risk misleading or implying anything with a cautiously worded statement that hides more that it says. Yes we have a lot of corporate activity and a restricted player budget and are a vastly different animal from the 'family-feel' creature we were but that unprofessionally casual approach wouldn't survive where we now reside. In fact we wouldn't have had a hope in hell of getting this far without the Bloom millions anyway. I don't know about you lot but I don't want to do a Pompey or Leeds, or end up seeing us renting our own ground back at high rates from a new owner who took advantage of the financial crisis that would likely follow our reckless spending spree.[/p][/quote]F*ing superb post Cap'n H. Hope you don't mind, I'm gonna cut and paste it to the latest thread as I feel it should be seen and read by a wider audience than it will get here. Singing Seagull, Indonesia
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