Albion keeper target signs for Charlton

Stephen Henderson

Stephen Henderson

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Stephen Henderson will be keeping goal against Albion this season, not for them.

The West Ham custodian has joined the Seagulls' Championship rivals Charlton from West Ham on a three-year contract.

Henderson will be working under former Albion No. 1 Ben Roberts, who is Charlton's goalkeeping coach.

The former Republic of Ireland under 21 is one of several keepers Albion have been interested in as a replacement for Tomasz Kuszczak, who was released at the end of last season.

Another Irishman, Keiren Westwood, went to Sheffield Wednesday.

Albion have also showed interest in taking Stoke's Jack Butland on a season-long loan.

The latest name they have been linked with is Fulham's David Stockdale, who has a year left on his contract at Craven Cottage.

Henderson will face Albion when Charlton visit the Amex on August 30.

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9:42am Mon 21 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

What........ Another target slipped away!!!!! Shall I get my boots and gloves out?
What........ Another target slipped away!!!!! Shall I get my boots and gloves out? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 5

9:43am Mon 21 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Either that or an approach to TK would be good.
Either that or an approach to TK would be good. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -5

9:55am Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact. Neville
  • Score: -1

9:55am Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact. Neville
  • Score: -6

9:58am Mon 21 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Was that such a bad miss?? Who knows--I am confident Albion have their eyes on other targets. Have faith!!
Was that such a bad miss?? Who knows--I am confident Albion have their eyes on other targets. Have faith!! mikeygit
  • Score: 6

10:06am Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available?
This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available? Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -1

10:08am Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Neville wrote:
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
And the "fact" was?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.[/p][/quote]And the "fact" was? Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 7

10:10am Mon 21 Jul 14

gilbertthecat says...

Didn't someone say on a previous thread that Henderson might not want to leave London? Or was that about someone else?
Didn't someone say on a previous thread that Henderson might not want to leave London? Or was that about someone else? gilbertthecat
  • Score: 5

10:12am Mon 21 Jul 14

farside says...

Still waiting for some Finnish targets to be signed wether at first feam or DS level since Sami was quoted as saying he knew them best. He was also qukted as saying 'keeper Niki Maenpaa was "on his list"
Still waiting for some Finnish targets to be signed wether at first feam or DS level since Sami was quoted as saying he knew them best. He was also qukted as saying 'keeper Niki Maenpaa was "on his list" farside
  • Score: 6

10:13am Mon 21 Jul 14

Crucial Point says...

Someone has to ask why players are so keen to leave and so reluctant to join...
Someone has to ask why players are so keen to leave and so reluctant to join... Crucial Point
  • Score: 5

10:20am Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Crucial Point wrote:
Someone has to ask why players are so keen to leave and so reluctant to join...
Rubbish B&B
[quote][p][bold]Crucial Point[/bold] wrote: Someone has to ask why players are so keen to leave and so reluctant to join...[/p][/quote]Rubbish B&B Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -9

10:23am Mon 21 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Bucket re TK---yes that has been my question before BUT never got an answer---perhaps you will have more luck??!
Bucket re TK---yes that has been my question before BUT never got an answer---perhaps you will have more luck??! mikeygit
  • Score: 0

10:28am Mon 21 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

People who write fact in there post usually no Jack .... About our club!!
People who write fact in there post usually no Jack .... About our club!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

10:32am Mon 21 Jul 14

Clean Sheet says...

My thoughts are that those keepers are going elsewhere because we have other targets. Would an ambitious player choose Charlton over Brighton? Rose tinted specs or not, you only have to look at TB's investment to know which way we are heading, depsite the naysayers on here.
My thoughts are that those keepers are going elsewhere because we have other targets. Would an ambitious player choose Charlton over Brighton? Rose tinted specs or not, you only have to look at TB's investment to know which way we are heading, depsite the naysayers on here. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 24

10:34am Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

JeffLomer wrote:
People who write fact in there post usually no Jack .... About our club!!
Lol
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: People who write fact in there post usually no Jack .... About our club!![/p][/quote]Lol Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 2

10:54am Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward. mark by the sea
  • Score: 13

10:59am Mon 21 Jul 14

Gray says...

TK left for the same reason Oscar took his wife back to Israel !
TK left for the same reason Oscar took his wife back to Israel ! Gray
  • Score: 4

11:00am Mon 21 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
What........ Another target slipped away!!!!! Shall I get my boots and gloves out?
Did we hold talks with this player? If yes then yeah he did slip through our fingers. If we didn't the no he didn't slip through our fingers. How much interest did we actually show in this guy? Or was it a case of a goalie looking to move and automatically gets linked to us as we are looking for one.
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: What........ Another target slipped away!!!!! Shall I get my boots and gloves out?[/p][/quote]Did we hold talks with this player? If yes then yeah he did slip through our fingers. If we didn't the no he didn't slip through our fingers. How much interest did we actually show in this guy? Or was it a case of a goalie looking to move and automatically gets linked to us as we are looking for one. Beale32
  • Score: 7

11:05am Mon 21 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback
.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble. Cockwomble
  • Score: -5

11:07am Mon 21 Jul 14

Gee Jay says...

Probably just wanted to stay in London, maybe for the nightlife, so no big miss.
He was only one of a few targets, how near to the top of the list he was, we will probably never know.
Still plenty of bargains to be had as time creeps nearer to to season starting. Many players and their agents will be ready to lower their demands.
UTA
Probably just wanted to stay in London, maybe for the nightlife, so no big miss. He was only one of a few targets, how near to the top of the list he was, we will probably never know. Still plenty of bargains to be had as time creeps nearer to to season starting. Many players and their agents will be ready to lower their demands. UTA Gee Jay
  • Score: 3

11:10am Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
Didn't someone say on a previous thread that Henderson might not want to leave London? Or was that about someone else?
Hi Gilbert ,yes I did ,it came across strongly from what I was reading about the guy ,but I would rather be right about Stockdale ,I like Fulham ,but I hope they don't ask too much for him ,after all he only played about 36 full games in 6 years for them ,the rumours site says we have made an offer of about £1m !.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: Didn't someone say on a previous thread that Henderson might not want to leave London? Or was that about someone else?[/p][/quote]Hi Gilbert ,yes I did ,it came across strongly from what I was reading about the guy ,but I would rather be right about Stockdale ,I like Fulham ,but I hope they don't ask too much for him ,after all he only played about 36 full games in 6 years for them ,the rumours site says we have made an offer of about £1m !. tug509
  • Score: 14

11:13am Mon 21 Jul 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

The fact he has gone to Charlton shows us two very important facts (excuse the use of this word). Firstly it shows that not only he wants first team football but he wants lots of game time. He will be far busier at Charlton than he would be with the Albion. Secondly it shows a total lack of ambition. He obviously prefers to stay where he is, same house, same commute, etc... He no doubt has a career path mapped out with Orient and Walthamstow before he chooses to retire with incurable back injuries, the result of picking balls out of the net on a regular basis.

UTA...!!!
The fact he has gone to Charlton shows us two very important facts (excuse the use of this word). Firstly it shows that not only he wants first team football but he wants lots of game time. He will be far busier at Charlton than he would be with the Albion. Secondly it shows a total lack of ambition. He obviously prefers to stay where he is, same house, same commute, etc... He no doubt has a career path mapped out with Orient and Walthamstow before he chooses to retire with incurable back injuries, the result of picking balls out of the net on a regular basis. UTA...!!! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 21

11:14am Mon 21 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available?
Why does this have to be money. Maybe he wanted to stay in London or he lives north east of London and didn't want to move. Did we actually bid for him or just show an interest. Or just paper talk.
IMHO we can do better than Henderson so it's nothing to be unhappy about. No disrespect to Charlton but if he would rather play for them then he's not what we want anyway.
Onwards and upwards. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available?[/p][/quote]Why does this have to be money. Maybe he wanted to stay in London or he lives north east of London and didn't want to move. Did we actually bid for him or just show an interest. Or just paper talk. IMHO we can do better than Henderson so it's nothing to be unhappy about. No disrespect to Charlton but if he would rather play for them then he's not what we want anyway. Onwards and upwards. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 9

11:14am Mon 21 Jul 14

Tonyuk175 says...

Oscar has gone so TK might come back, best keeper in championship over last two years so I would have him back but but land would be good too
Oscar has gone so TK might come back, best keeper in championship over last two years so I would have him back but but land would be good too Tonyuk175
  • Score: 3

11:17am Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
The fact he has gone to Charlton shows us two very important facts (excuse the use of this word). Firstly it shows that not only he wants first team football but he wants lots of game time. He will be far busier at Charlton than he would be with the Albion. Secondly it shows a total lack of ambition. He obviously prefers to stay where he is, same house, same commute, etc... He no doubt has a career path mapped out with Orient and Walthamstow before he chooses to retire with incurable back injuries, the result of picking balls out of the net on a regular basis.

UTA...!!!
Brilliant !
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: The fact he has gone to Charlton shows us two very important facts (excuse the use of this word). Firstly it shows that not only he wants first team football but he wants lots of game time. He will be far busier at Charlton than he would be with the Albion. Secondly it shows a total lack of ambition. He obviously prefers to stay where he is, same house, same commute, etc... He no doubt has a career path mapped out with Orient and Walthamstow before he chooses to retire with incurable back injuries, the result of picking balls out of the net on a regular basis. UTA...!!![/p][/quote]Brilliant ! tug509
  • Score: 4

11:25am Mon 21 Jul 14

Quiterie says...

We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever. Quiterie
  • Score: 15

11:36am Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
According to the Charlton lads on their site ,we were interested in Henderson and they were concerned about us getting him .
Rumours site says we have been priced out of any possible Stockdale deal ,but are/have spoken to Carlo Nash`s agent about a possible 1 year deal as a stop gap ?.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]According to the Charlton lads on their site ,we were interested in Henderson and they were concerned about us getting him . Rumours site says we have been priced out of any possible Stockdale deal ,but are/have spoken to Carlo Nash`s agent about a possible 1 year deal as a stop gap ?. tug509
  • Score: 0

11:44am Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback

.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough,
Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points .
Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice,
Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it!
I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off,
Brez was a better keeper than ankers!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.[/p][/quote]You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough, Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points . Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice, Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it! I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off, Brez was a better keeper than ankers! mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

11:44am Mon 21 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo.

Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million.

I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up.
I certainly hope that this is the case.
Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested.

Uta
I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo. Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million. I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up. I certainly hope that this is the case. Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 6

11:47am Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

SMF20 wrote:
I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo.

Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million.

I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up.
I certainly hope that this is the case.
Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested.

Uta
But players from the next bracket want good money , and we seem determined to have a wage structure below that.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo. Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million. I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up. I certainly hope that this is the case. Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested. Uta[/p][/quote]But players from the next bracket want good money , and we seem determined to have a wage structure below that. mark by the sea
  • Score: 9

11:50am Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback

.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
Yes you fail to mention injuries? What's the odds on Buckley or lua lua to miss the first game?
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.[/p][/quote]Yes you fail to mention injuries? What's the odds on Buckley or lua lua to miss the first game? mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

11:55am Mon 21 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo.

Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million.

I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up.
I certainly hope that this is the case.
Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested.

Uta
But players from the next bracket want good money , and we seem determined to have a wage structure below that.
I agree, we do... Who's to say though that we wont be able to structure a deal that fits within this policy by perhaps giving a larger signing on fee or perhaps offering a slightly longer term deal.

I very much want us to adhere to the FFP guidelines but at the same time, we have to keep going in the right direction. Leo's fee gives us an opportunity to do this... I hope we take it.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I find myself wondering if the goalposts will have been moved with the sale of Leo. Plans will have been made for this coming seasons budget but I very much doubt that they will have included discussions regarding a fee coming in of a reported £8 million. I wonder if people that we were targeting are now being dismissed due to us now looking at people in the next bracket up. I certainly hope that this is the case. Mr Barber has said many times that we don't need to sell and so I'm hopeful if not certain that this money will be reinvested. Uta[/p][/quote]But players from the next bracket want good money , and we seem determined to have a wage structure below that.[/p][/quote]I agree, we do... Who's to say though that we wont be able to structure a deal that fits within this policy by perhaps giving a larger signing on fee or perhaps offering a slightly longer term deal. I very much want us to adhere to the FFP guidelines but at the same time, we have to keep going in the right direction. Leo's fee gives us an opportunity to do this... I hope we take it. SMF20
  • Score: 10

12:03pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Towner83 says...

Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper
UTA
Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper UTA Towner83
  • Score: 7

12:32pm Mon 21 Jul 14

PACE Elec says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
Neville wrote:
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
And the "fact" was?
If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!!
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.[/p][/quote]And the "fact" was?[/p][/quote]If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!! PACE Elec
  • Score: -8

12:35pm Mon 21 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

Gray wrote:
TK left for the same reason Oscar took his wife back to Israel !
I am pretty certain that Oscar's wife and family stayed in Spain and Oscar travelled frequently to see them.
[quote][p][bold]Gray[/bold] wrote: TK left for the same reason Oscar took his wife back to Israel ![/p][/quote]I am pretty certain that Oscar's wife and family stayed in Spain and Oscar travelled frequently to see them. ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

12:52pm Mon 21 Jul 14

albionfan33 says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback

.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
at the moment it is very thin we can manage but could do better also. im not a doom merchant and i fully expect us to have some strengh in depth by the end of the window hopefully before the first game
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.[/p][/quote]at the moment it is very thin we can manage but could do better also. im not a doom merchant and i fully expect us to have some strengh in depth by the end of the window hopefully before the first game albionfan33
  • Score: 5

1:01pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tinker111 says...

Towner83 wrote:
Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper
UTA
Bad in as much players DONT WANT TO COME TO ALBION " YOU HAVE TO ASK WHY " BEN ROBERTS may have had a say about Albion and what goes on .
Fact we have a good young keeper Walton & A DUFFER ANKERS so yes we need a back up for WALTON Who as we stand should be NO1
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper UTA[/p][/quote]Bad in as much players DONT WANT TO COME TO ALBION " YOU HAVE TO ASK WHY " BEN ROBERTS may have had a say about Albion and what goes on . Fact we have a good young keeper Walton & A DUFFER ANKERS so yes we need a back up for WALTON Who as we stand should be NO1 tinker111
  • Score: -3

1:03pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tinker111 says...

Towner83 wrote:
Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper
UTA
Sorry but Dick Knight would be better than ANKERS IN GOAL
[quote][p][bold]Towner83[/bold] wrote: Thank **** for that! Talk about close shave. This guy is no better that Casper UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry but Dick Knight would be better than ANKERS IN GOAL tinker111
  • Score: -3

1:03pm Mon 21 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
MBTS I think your summary of what type of players we now need to recruit is pretty accurate and echoes what the Argus has written recently.
To your list I would favour our bringing in another striker and possibly another defender if Maksimenko doesn't convince SH that he can fill the 4th CB role.
Regarding Henderson I have to admit that I would have been underwhelmed if we had signed him and am pleased he has joined Charlton. I feel that Stockdale is potentially a much better prospect for us although it won't be easy to acquire him. I feel that Stockdale would do a good job as No1 GK this season and would be the ideal No 2 next season if we got promoted.
Onwards and Upwards.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]MBTS I think your summary of what type of players we now need to recruit is pretty accurate and echoes what the Argus has written recently. To your list I would favour our bringing in another striker and possibly another defender if Maksimenko doesn't convince SH that he can fill the 4th CB role. Regarding Henderson I have to admit that I would have been underwhelmed if we had signed him and am pleased he has joined Charlton. I feel that Stockdale is potentially a much better prospect for us although it won't be easy to acquire him. I feel that Stockdale would do a good job as No1 GK this season and would be the ideal No 2 next season if we got promoted. Onwards and Upwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

1:14pm Mon 21 Jul 14

pablobrowno says...

Not too worried about missing out on a guy who has played two games for West Ham in three odd years and fallen to third in the pecking order.
Not too worried about missing out on a guy who has played two games for West Ham in three odd years and fallen to third in the pecking order. pablobrowno
  • Score: 8

1:16pm Mon 21 Jul 14

fratsomrover says...

Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ".
No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.
Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ". No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after. fratsomrover
  • Score: 4

1:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ok so a 'suggested,' target has gone to another and some make the call to offer TK a contract, I guess I can understand that. What is not so clear to me, and given the fact that a number of keepers have been shuffled around is, why is TK still out of a job? No point in him coming back to us as he made it very clear that he wanted to move on.

Putting Walton in the number one position would be a huge gamble, yes he is showing signs of being a good keeper, but to say that he can hold down the number one spot this season seems a tad too risky. Outfield players of his age and level of experience have others around them to help cover any errors they might make, if you make an error as a keeper you are on your own.

Brighton are reported to have made an offer for Stockdale I didn't read anywhere that we made an offer for Henderson so maybe he wasn't a, 'target,' just another one that we were running the rule over.
Ok so a 'suggested,' target has gone to another and some make the call to offer TK a contract, I guess I can understand that. What is not so clear to me, and given the fact that a number of keepers have been shuffled around is, why is TK still out of a job? No point in him coming back to us as he made it very clear that he wanted to move on. Putting Walton in the number one position would be a huge gamble, yes he is showing signs of being a good keeper, but to say that he can hold down the number one spot this season seems a tad too risky. Outfield players of his age and level of experience have others around them to help cover any errors they might make, if you make an error as a keeper you are on your own. Brighton are reported to have made an offer for Stockdale I didn't read anywhere that we made an offer for Henderson so maybe he wasn't a, 'target,' just another one that we were running the rule over. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 11

1:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ".
No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.
they have an exit door as well as an entrance.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ". No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.[/p][/quote]they have an exit door as well as an entrance. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

1:40pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Carlas mum says...

Have we actually made any offers on these players (apart from Stockdale) we are supposedly losing to other clubs, or is it a case of media hype. I don't seem to have heard anything from the Albion, about these players we 'have lost'.
Have we actually made any offers on these players (apart from Stockdale) we are supposedly losing to other clubs, or is it a case of media hype. I don't seem to have heard anything from the Albion, about these players we 'have lost'. Carlas mum
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Very disappointed we missed out on Henderson, a very good keeper but not surprising considering how long it takes the albion hierarchy to do anything. Was hoping we might sign the lad Hogan from Rochdale, a prolific young hotshot but no we only seem to like journeymen so we've missed out on him as well- he's gone to Brentford today, they and Bournemouth are showing us how it's done.
Very disappointed we missed out on Henderson, a very good keeper but not surprising considering how long it takes the albion hierarchy to do anything. Was hoping we might sign the lad Hogan from Rochdale, a prolific young hotshot but no we only seem to like journeymen so we've missed out on him as well- he's gone to Brentford today, they and Bournemouth are showing us how it's done. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -14

2:07pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

I made mention of the fact that TK won,t be back and the post from Gray is pretty near the truth. If you recall TK withdrew at short notice from one the last home games,once was for pulled muscle during warm up the second was related to the comments made. I don,t expect people to take my word but I do know more than can be told.
I made mention of the fact that TK won,t be back and the post from Gray is pretty near the truth. If you recall TK withdrew at short notice from one the last home games,once was for pulled muscle during warm up the second was related to the comments made. I don,t expect people to take my word but I do know more than can be told. Neville
  • Score: -12

2:24pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following.

Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players.
The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions.

The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point.

Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses.

We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending?

You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.
To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following. Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players. The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions. The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point. Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses. We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending? You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

2:29pm Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following.

Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players.
The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions.

The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point.

Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses.

We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending?

You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.
Hmmm accountants can shuffle debt , the problem is Vegas , if you parted with £500 for a season ticket and we shuffled along in mid table without reinvesting in the side you would not be happy!
If we kept Leo and shuffled along in mid table, the complaints would not be heard as much, I suppose we need to accept we over spent a few years ago , and now repaying the money ...
That comment about spending was not intended as a slur, but you can see how to manage fans expectations is not easy!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following. Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players. The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions. The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point. Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses. We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending? You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.[/p][/quote]Hmmm accountants can shuffle debt , the problem is Vegas , if you parted with £500 for a season ticket and we shuffled along in mid table without reinvesting in the side you would not be happy! If we kept Leo and shuffled along in mid table, the complaints would not be heard as much, I suppose we need to accept we over spent a few years ago , and now repaying the money ... That comment about spending was not intended as a slur, but you can see how to manage fans expectations is not easy! mark by the sea
  • Score: 9

2:35pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following.

Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players.
The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions.

The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point.

Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses.

We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending?

You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.
Good grief. God forbid anyone that wants excitement at the albion any time soon.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following. Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players. The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions. The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point. Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses. We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending? You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.[/p][/quote]Good grief. God forbid anyone that wants excitement at the albion any time soon. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -3

2:44pm Mon 21 Jul 14

heshootshescores says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
Surprised you haven't received a dozen or thumbs down for this post, Mark, as any post perceived to be "negative" in this comments section usually draws howls of protest from the Albion faithful.

I think you hit the nail on the head here when you used the word "quality". When you compare our squad to the likely contenders – Norwich, Fulham, Forest, Derby etc – you realize we are a long way short of where we need to be to compete with them.

We've sold our star player and made of couple of underwhelming signings, IMO. Are we really expecting a hatful of goals from O'Grady and CMS? CMS is coming back from an horrendous injury and even he's capable of returning to his form of two or three seasons ago, it's going to take time.

The Ward saga rumbles on; surprised he hasn't signed for someone else by now. Even if Chicksen or Maksi can step up, we still need to strengthen the spine of the team...central defender, creative midfielder, prolific striker.

The question I would like an answer to right now is how much – if any – of the Ulloa transfer fee the board is going to make available to Sami?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]Surprised you haven't received a dozen or thumbs down for this post, Mark, as any post perceived to be "negative" in this comments section usually draws howls of protest from the Albion faithful. I think you hit the nail on the head here when you used the word "quality". When you compare our squad to the likely contenders – Norwich, Fulham, Forest, Derby etc – you realize we are a long way short of where we need to be to compete with them. We've sold our star player and made of couple of underwhelming signings, IMO. Are we really expecting a hatful of goals from O'Grady and CMS? CMS is coming back from an horrendous injury and even he's capable of returning to his form of two or three seasons ago, it's going to take time. The Ward saga rumbles on; surprised he hasn't signed for someone else by now. Even if Chicksen or Maksi can step up, we still need to strengthen the spine of the team...central defender, creative midfielder, prolific striker. The question I would like an answer to right now is how much – if any – of the Ulloa transfer fee the board is going to make available to Sami? heshootshescores
  • Score: 2

2:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees.
With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans.
If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform.
It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees. With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans. If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform. Neville
  • Score: -8

2:46pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following.

Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players.
The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions.

The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point.

Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses.

We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending?

You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.
Hmmm accountants can shuffle debt , the problem is Vegas , if you parted with £500 for a season ticket and we shuffled along in mid table without reinvesting in the side you would not be happy!
If we kept Leo and shuffled along in mid table, the complaints would not be heard as much, I suppose we need to accept we over spent a few years ago , and now repaying the money ...
That comment about spending was not intended as a slur, but you can see how to manage fans expectations is not easy!
Yes Mark, part of our underlying costs surely comes from the wages that were negotited during Poyet's rein. With some of those he signed now gone I would imagine that our wage bill has lowered but there are still a few on the books.
Just to clarify, my comment was not about cutting debt, we are not obliged to do that, it's all about cutting year on year losses.

Mark I would ask, do you agree with the basis premise of what I offered in my previously submitted comment?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: To those calling for the money from the sale of Ulloa to be reinvested in obtaining quality players, it might be worth considering the following. Let's say that we lost 8M last season, (a guess), now lets suppose that we got 8M for Leo and that we didn't spend one penny of it on new players. The result of this would be that we would meet the FFP goal of breaking even. That result would be for one year only for the following year we would still have the underlying loss figure but wouldn't have another Ulloa to sell for millions. The better result for Brighton could be to have Leicester pay us over a three year period for Ulloa, 3+3+2 with each payment enusring that we meet our FFP obligations. During those three years the club would continue to cut our underlying costs and we could end up at a genuine at a break even point. Now I know that this kind of thinking is not going to sit very well with most, but we do have a transfer budget and a pay structure, and it's only by keeping to those figures that we stand a chance of reducing our underlying losses. We could take the Ulloa money and improve our transfer kitty, we could also increase our pay structure, but what happens when the Ulloa money runs out, where does the money come from to maintain that extra spending? You might not like what I am offering but from a pure business stand point, my arguement has merit, and the FFP is all about business decisions and not about any club's apirations of promotion.[/p][/quote]Hmmm accountants can shuffle debt , the problem is Vegas , if you parted with £500 for a season ticket and we shuffled along in mid table without reinvesting in the side you would not be happy! If we kept Leo and shuffled along in mid table, the complaints would not be heard as much, I suppose we need to accept we over spent a few years ago , and now repaying the money ... That comment about spending was not intended as a slur, but you can see how to manage fans expectations is not easy![/p][/quote]Yes Mark, part of our underlying costs surely comes from the wages that were negotited during Poyet's rein. With some of those he signed now gone I would imagine that our wage bill has lowered but there are still a few on the books. Just to clarify, my comment was not about cutting debt, we are not obliged to do that, it's all about cutting year on year losses. Mark I would ask, do you agree with the basis premise of what I offered in my previously submitted comment? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

2:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!).

Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...!
I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!). Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...! Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 5

2:56pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!).

Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...!
With respect, the subject of the thread is about who we didn't sign.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!). Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...![/p][/quote]With respect, the subject of the thread is about who we didn't sign. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 5

3:18pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Cockwomble says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback


.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough,
Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points .
Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice,
Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it!
I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off,
Brez was a better keeper than ankers!
im not suggesting they start and play the whole season.just that we have cover in emergencies.or would you rather us panic buy?angkergren is not useless.how many points has he actually cost us?answer=no more than tk.and if you are so certain we will sign 3-4 players why worry about how thin you think the squad is?cockwomble
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.[/p][/quote]You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough, Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points . Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice, Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it! I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off, Brez was a better keeper than ankers![/p][/quote]im not suggesting they start and play the whole season.just that we have cover in emergencies.or would you rather us panic buy?angkergren is not useless.how many points has he actually cost us?answer=no more than tk.and if you are so certain we will sign 3-4 players why worry about how thin you think the squad is?cockwomble Cockwomble
  • Score: 8

3:22pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Neville wrote:
It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees.
With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans.
If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform.
Agree with all you say Neville especially your last couple of lines . Given that we are all aware of bloody FFP , but that we also as you say were promised a decent budget ,plus what we didn`t spend last season ,plus transfer monies from LB,AB,and LU , then I would suggest Barber makes a seriously large amount of money available for new signings if the STs are to be maintained ,under the circumstances I cant see he has any other option than oil the hinge on his purse and let the moths out !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees. With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans. If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform.[/p][/quote]Agree with all you say Neville especially your last couple of lines . Given that we are all aware of bloody FFP , but that we also as you say were promised a decent budget ,plus what we didn`t spend last season ,plus transfer monies from LB,AB,and LU , then I would suggest Barber makes a seriously large amount of money available for new signings if the STs are to be maintained ,under the circumstances I cant see he has any other option than oil the hinge on his purse and let the moths out !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 3

3:37pm Mon 21 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ".
No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.
I thought Nugent already played for Leicaster and why does he need to say nice things about Woods and the others?
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ". No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.[/p][/quote]I thought Nugent already played for Leicaster and why does he need to say nice things about Woods and the others? dave from bexill
  • Score: 7

3:40pm Mon 21 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Some have mentioned on here about Ulloa--I would bet he is soon a Leicester player---but true, the silence is deafening. I would suggest we have our eye on some decent players using SOME of the Ulloa fee and set aside the balance for a rainy day/FFP rules money. Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite. BHA have been, for the last couple of seasons very tight lipped about signings until they actually happen, which is good business--Devil if you do, Devil if you don´t scenario!!---but it would be good to have confirmation that the Ulloa deal is done and we can put that one to bed and concentrate on who IS coming IN!!!
Some have mentioned on here about Ulloa--I would bet he is soon a Leicester player---but true, the silence is deafening. I would suggest we have our eye on some decent players using SOME of the Ulloa fee and set aside the balance for a rainy day/FFP rules money. Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite. BHA have been, for the last couple of seasons very tight lipped about signings until they actually happen, which is good business--Devil if you do, Devil if you don´t scenario!!---but it would be good to have confirmation that the Ulloa deal is done and we can put that one to bed and concentrate on who IS coming IN!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!).

Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...!
With respect, the subject of the thread is about who we didn't sign.
With equal respect I know what the subject is or was - I have already posted my thoughts on that matter... Having read later postings (it's always nice to know what others may have to say, especially those with constructive views) it became apparent that a number of people, including, I hasten to add, yourself, were more concerned about FFP and what should be done with the Ulloa money... It was only an observation.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: I see that the direction has veered away from the thread suject and on to FFP (again!). I am beginning to think that FFP and the idea of adhering to it to be a total farce. You don't believe me...? Take a glance at 'Arry and his financial wizardy over at QPR... Promoted by breaking all the rules and now spending big again (no surprise there then!!!). Let's stop waffling on about FFP - if the club doesn't want to spend the money (and maybe doesn't have it in the first place) then maybe one of the suits can stand up and tell us, the customers as we are called what the policy really is. Then we'll know what to expect... In the meantime UTA...![/p][/quote]With respect, the subject of the thread is about who we didn't sign.[/p][/quote]With equal respect I know what the subject is or was - I have already posted my thoughts on that matter... Having read later postings (it's always nice to know what others may have to say, especially those with constructive views) it became apparent that a number of people, including, I hasten to add, yourself, were more concerned about FFP and what should be done with the Ulloa money... It was only an observation. Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 6

4:05pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Some have mentioned on here about Ulloa--I would bet he is soon a Leicester player---but true, the silence is deafening. I would suggest we have our eye on some decent players using SOME of the Ulloa fee and set aside the balance for a rainy day/FFP rules money. Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite. BHA have been, for the last couple of seasons very tight lipped about signings until they actually happen, which is good business--Devil if you do, Devil if you don´t scenario!!---but it would be good to have confirmation that the Ulloa deal is done and we can put that one to bed and concentrate on who IS coming IN!!!
Hi Micky.
One line from your comment concerns me, 'Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite,' ..... we have a transfer budget, there is money to buy or borrw players, what if Leo had not been sold, would zero players have come in?

If we were to sign a two million pound player tmorrow I wouldn't see that as spending Ulloa money, as I said, we do have a budget, and with the sales we made last season, and the limited spending over the same period, our budget shouldn't be too small, even alowing for FFP requirements.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Some have mentioned on here about Ulloa--I would bet he is soon a Leicester player---but true, the silence is deafening. I would suggest we have our eye on some decent players using SOME of the Ulloa fee and set aside the balance for a rainy day/FFP rules money. Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite. BHA have been, for the last couple of seasons very tight lipped about signings until they actually happen, which is good business--Devil if you do, Devil if you don´t scenario!!---but it would be good to have confirmation that the Ulloa deal is done and we can put that one to bed and concentrate on who IS coming IN!!![/p][/quote]Hi Micky. One line from your comment concerns me, 'Until we have money from the deal we cannot sign anyone for definite,' ..... we have a transfer budget, there is money to buy or borrw players, what if Leo had not been sold, would zero players have come in? If we were to sign a two million pound player tmorrow I wouldn't see that as spending Ulloa money, as I said, we do have a budget, and with the sales we made last season, and the limited spending over the same period, our budget shouldn't be too small, even alowing for FFP requirements. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

4:16pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET . tug509
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Mon 21 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Vegas--Sorry perhaps I did not make myself clear. What I was eluding to was BHA may have targets based on the sale of Uloa which may be above the current Club budget in the status quo. If--and a big IF Ulloa did not go then we would have to buy a player of a lesser value. Eg we may be in for one player for 3m with Ulloa going but if he stays then it could be three players at 1m using this seasons club budget. i HOPE that is clearer ---in other words until the deal is done we do not know who we can buy and at what price,.
Vegas--Sorry perhaps I did not make myself clear. What I was eluding to was BHA may have targets based on the sale of Uloa which may be above the current Club budget in the status quo. If--and a big IF Ulloa did not go then we would have to buy a player of a lesser value. Eg we may be in for one player for 3m with Ulloa going but if he stays then it could be three players at 1m using this seasons club budget. i HOPE that is clearer ---in other words until the deal is done we do not know who we can buy and at what price,. mikeygit
  • Score: 6

4:35pm Mon 21 Jul 14

rackhamlouis says...

Neville wrote:
It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees.
With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans.
If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform.
Out of interest, at what level are season ticket sales compared with last season? I guess that these are down not only because of the lack of investment in playing squad to date but also due to the style of football played last year.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: It's a balancing act.Whilst we strive to meet FFP let's not forget that SH was promised a competitive budget before the Ulloa sale. The monies from last seasons budget was hardly touched for any player recruitment the only purchase being Stephens and loanees. With fans paying the highest prices in the Championship they need to see some investment on the playing side.Fantastic stadium and Academy but most people pay to watch quality and excitement on the field of play,that's what attracts the majority of fans. If we don,t invest and sit mid table then the crowds will inevitably fall over a period of time,floating fans will pick and choose their matches depending on the opposition. Season tickets are down on last season and PB has a fine balancing act to perform.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, at what level are season ticket sales compared with last season? I guess that these are down not only because of the lack of investment in playing squad to date but also due to the style of football played last year. rackhamlouis
  • Score: 4

4:42pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

According to my information sales were around 21000. 18000 season tickets and 3000 corporate.
According to my information sales were around 21000. 18000 season tickets and 3000 corporate. Neville
  • Score: -8

4:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

Neville wrote:
According to my information sales were around 21000. 18000 season tickets and 3000 corporate.
Assuming you are correct Neville, how does this compare with last year?
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: According to my information sales were around 21000. 18000 season tickets and 3000 corporate.[/p][/quote]Assuming you are correct Neville, how does this compare with last year? dave from bexill
  • Score: 3

4:47pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Neville wrote:
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
Which are??
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.[/p][/quote]Which are?? Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 3

4:50pm Mon 21 Jul 14

pte says...

Henderson didn't come. Didn't his father Wayne play for the Albion and when here get a lot of stick from the fans or am I mixing him up with someone else?

Maybe that's why he didn't come
Henderson didn't come. Didn't his father Wayne play for the Albion and when here get a lot of stick from the fans or am I mixing him up with someone else? Maybe that's why he didn't come pte
  • Score: -1

4:54pm Mon 21 Jul 14

gordongull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ".
No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.
I thought Nugent already played for Leicaster and why does he need to say nice things about Woods and the others?
Nice one Dave.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Just wondering if Ulloa is a " done deal ". No news as yet from Leicester, just news that they have made an offer for Islam Slimani, the Algerian centre forward who scored two goals in the World Cup for Algeria. Considering they have also bought David Nugent to compliment Woods or Vardy or Taylor Fletcher, there has to be a limit as to how many strikers they is after.[/p][/quote]I thought Nugent already played for Leicaster and why does he need to say nice things about Woods and the others?[/p][/quote]Nice one Dave. gordongull
  • Score: 7

4:56pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available?
Why does this have to be money. Maybe he wanted to stay in London or he lives north east of London and didn't want to move. Did we actually bid for him or just show an interest. Or just paper talk.
IMHO we can do better than Henderson so it's nothing to be unhappy about. No disrespect to Charlton but if he would rather play for them then he's not what we want anyway.
Onwards and upwards. UTA
My point is more to do with the fact that every time we hear a story that we are after a certain player, they end up going somewhere else, my fault for being to cynical rather like my previous post re B&B being more a reference to Barber and Burke than accommodation.
Fact ! Whoops sorry
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: This has to be either lack of funds or an inability of the people involved to sell the club to these players, yet another of our targets goes to a competitor with not as good facilities much smaller crowds so it has to be money, off to the pound shop then! wonder if Barnsley's keeper is available?[/p][/quote]Why does this have to be money. Maybe he wanted to stay in London or he lives north east of London and didn't want to move. Did we actually bid for him or just show an interest. Or just paper talk. IMHO we can do better than Henderson so it's nothing to be unhappy about. No disrespect to Charlton but if he would rather play for them then he's not what we want anyway. Onwards and upwards. UTA[/p][/quote]My point is more to do with the fact that every time we hear a story that we are after a certain player, they end up going somewhere else, my fault for being to cynical rather like my previous post re B&B being more a reference to Barber and Burke than accommodation. Fact ! Whoops sorry Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -2

5:00pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Vegas--Sorry perhaps I did not make myself clear. What I was eluding to was BHA may have targets based on the sale of Uloa which may be above the current Club budget in the status quo. If--and a big IF Ulloa did not go then we would have to buy a player of a lesser value. Eg we may be in for one player for 3m with Ulloa going but if he stays then it could be three players at 1m using this seasons club budget. i HOPE that is clearer ---in other words until the deal is done we do not know who we can buy and at what price,.
Micky, you have cleared that up nicely, thanks.

Something I would ask you Micky, do you think that higher wages go hand in hand with higher transfer fees, if yes, what effect do you think that would have on our wage policy, assuming that one exists.

It's my understanding that fees and wages all come out of the same pot.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Vegas--Sorry perhaps I did not make myself clear. What I was eluding to was BHA may have targets based on the sale of Uloa which may be above the current Club budget in the status quo. If--and a big IF Ulloa did not go then we would have to buy a player of a lesser value. Eg we may be in for one player for 3m with Ulloa going but if he stays then it could be three players at 1m using this seasons club budget. i HOPE that is clearer ---in other words until the deal is done we do not know who we can buy and at what price,.[/p][/quote]Micky, you have cleared that up nicely, thanks. Something I would ask you Micky, do you think that higher wages go hand in hand with higher transfer fees, if yes, what effect do you think that would have on our wage policy, assuming that one exists. It's my understanding that fees and wages all come out of the same pot. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Mon 21 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Cockwomble wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality,
We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.
keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback



.one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.
You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough,
Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points .
Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice,
Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it!
I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off,
Brez was a better keeper than ankers!
im not suggesting they start and play the whole season.just that we have cover in emergencies.or would you rather us panic buy?angkergren is not useless.how many points has he actually cost us?answer=no more than tk.and if you are so certain we will sign 3-4 players why worry about how thin you think the squad is?cockwomble
We will panic buy if we lose two or three in the trot, and with the ones you claim can play in a emergency, if they are only good enough for emergencies then get rid!
[quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cockwomble[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Really not long till season kicks off, squad is horrendously thin of quality, We are short of keeper, centreback , left back, creative mid, winger who can play two games in a row , and at least one stand out centre forward.[/p][/quote]keeper.angkergren will do.no emergency.centreback .one needed but dunk/maksi can cover.no emergency.leftback needed but chicksen is ok.no emergency.creative mid kemy is already that.no emergency.winger we have lualua,buckley and march.we may only play one.no emergency.you panic too much.horrendously thin?get a grip.cockwomble.[/p][/quote]You sound like Arnie who suggested 3 centre defenders is enough, Angergan is useless , and if we stick with him we will drop points . Your naming players who between them have played about ten games in last 12 months, maksimenko dunk and chickson can cover as 4th choice, Are you suggesting a mid table is acceptable because the players your naming are not up to it! I am certain we will sign 3-4 at least before kick off, Brez was a better keeper than ankers![/p][/quote]im not suggesting they start and play the whole season.just that we have cover in emergencies.or would you rather us panic buy?angkergren is not useless.how many points has he actually cost us?answer=no more than tk.and if you are so certain we will sign 3-4 players why worry about how thin you think the squad is?cockwomble[/p][/quote]We will panic buy if we lose two or three in the trot, and with the ones you claim can play in a emergency, if they are only good enough for emergencies then get rid! mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.' VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

5:31pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

PACE Elec wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
Neville wrote:
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
And the "fact" was?
If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!!
Well there appears to be a great deal of uncertainty amongst other posters regarding TK 's reasons for being released perhaps all the other posters are not Brighton fans also, or we missed an announcement by the club? Wa*k*r.
[quote][p][bold]PACE Elec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.[/p][/quote]And the "fact" was?[/p][/quote]If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!![/p][/quote]Well there appears to be a great deal of uncertainty amongst other posters regarding TK 's reasons for being released perhaps all the other posters are not Brighton fans also, or we missed an announcement by the club? Wa*k*r. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 0

5:48pm Mon 21 Jul 14

gordongull says...

There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided.
We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement.
Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League.
There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided. We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement. Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League. gordongull
  • Score: 7

6:02pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided.
We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement.
Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League.
full agreement from me.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided. We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement. Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League.[/p][/quote]full agreement from me. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

6:12pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
gordongull wrote:
There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided.
We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement.
Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League.
full agreement from me.
Agree also, will be interesting to see what penalties are dished out, and to whom come the end of the year re FFP.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: There has been some speculation about whether the Club will now look for a higher calibre of player than would have been the case without the Ulloa money. The answer is, not if that means paying wages above the limit that has been decided. We are a Championship Club, and what we need are the best available players who will play for Championship wages. Where we can gain an advantage with quality, is in the loan market. This is especially useful when the loaning club is paying the proportion of wages above our ceiling, as has happened in the last couple of seasons. Wolves will come to a point where they have to cut their losses with SW, and we could be the beneficiaries again, with a repeat of last season's arrangement. Apart from loans, Premier League quality players are for the Premier League and the parachute clubs only. The Ulloa money should ensure that we start the season with players who are experienced and competent at this level in all positions. It is then up to Sami to forge a team spirit and work ethic to compete with the best in the League.[/p][/quote]full agreement from me.[/p][/quote]Agree also, will be interesting to see what penalties are dished out, and to whom come the end of the year re FFP. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 4

6:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Neville says...

Attn Dave from Bexhill
Last years season tickets were 24000 approx so a current drop,thats not to say things wont't pick up when and if signings are made and we get off to a good start.
Attn Dave from Bexhill Last years season tickets were 24000 approx so a current drop,thats not to say things wont't pick up when and if signings are made and we get off to a good start. Neville
  • Score: -6

6:39pm Mon 21 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

Neville wrote:
Attn Dave from Bexhill
Last years season tickets were 24000 approx so a current drop,thats not to say things wont't pick up when and if signings are made and we get off to a good start.
Cheers Neville
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Attn Dave from Bexhill Last years season tickets were 24000 approx so a current drop,thats not to say things wont't pick up when and if signings are made and we get off to a good start.[/p][/quote]Cheers Neville dave from bexill
  • Score: 6

7:15pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger .
And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'[/p][/quote]I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger . And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !. tug509
  • Score: 4

7:17pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

PACE Elec wrote:
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
Neville wrote:
TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.
And the "fact" was?
If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!!
Oh and you know do you or you guessing again!!
[quote][p][bold]PACE Elec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: TK won't be coming back due to the circumstances surrounding his departure,fact.[/p][/quote]And the "fact" was?[/p][/quote]If you were a Brighton fan you'd know and wouldn't have to ask , muppet !!![/p][/quote]Oh and you know do you or you guessing again!! Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 3

7:19pm Mon 21 Jul 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Renewed mine in march,asked for other place seat and have.

As Albion played it very clever there was still a chance of promotion,some fairweaters took a risk.

If Albion play midtable this season another (thousands) will not renew,how many are real Albion fans,yep if we play Liverpool,Chelsea there's 40000.
Renewed mine in march,asked for other place seat and have. As Albion played it very clever there was still a chance of promotion,some fairweaters took a risk. If Albion play midtable this season another (thousands) will not renew,how many are real Albion fans,yep if we play Liverpool,Chelsea there's 40000. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger .
And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.
Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'[/p][/quote]I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger . And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.[/p][/quote]Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

8:06pm Mon 21 Jul 14

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger .
And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.
Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.
Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'[/p][/quote]I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger . And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.[/p][/quote]Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.[/p][/quote]Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read . tug509
  • Score: 1

8:07pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OldGull says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Very disappointed we missed out on Henderson, a very good keeper but not surprising considering how long it takes the albion hierarchy to do anything. Was hoping we might sign the lad Hogan from Rochdale, a prolific young hotshot but no we only seem to like journeymen so we've missed out on him as well- he's gone to Brentford today, they and Bournemouth are showing us how it's done.
Simples..... Go and support Brentford or Bournemouth
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: Very disappointed we missed out on Henderson, a very good keeper but not surprising considering how long it takes the albion hierarchy to do anything. Was hoping we might sign the lad Hogan from Rochdale, a prolific young hotshot but no we only seem to like journeymen so we've missed out on him as well- he's gone to Brentford today, they and Bournemouth are showing us how it's done.[/p][/quote]Simples..... Go and support Brentford or Bournemouth OldGull
  • Score: 1

8:16pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.
Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian. Conelli98
  • Score: -4

8:25pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OldGull says...

I take the "Albion Target" statements with a pinch of salt.
It is known that we are after a 1st choice keeper, so it follows that the press link us to any keeper available that is top championship quality.
If all the keepers we have been linked with were serious targets, we would now have about 6 on our books.
The players we sign usually sign within a few days of any publicity.
Stockdale may be a genuine target, but it is just as likely a keeper will be unveiled without weeks of intrigue
There will be more signings within the next 3 weeks
UTA
I take the "Albion Target" statements with a pinch of salt. It is known that we are after a 1st choice keeper, so it follows that the press link us to any keeper available that is top championship quality. If all the keepers we have been linked with were serious targets, we would now have about 6 on our books. The players we sign usually sign within a few days of any publicity. Stockdale may be a genuine target, but it is just as likely a keeper will be unveiled without weeks of intrigue There will be more signings within the next 3 weeks UTA OldGull
  • Score: 1

8:43pm Mon 21 Jul 14

London Dave says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
My thoughts are that those keepers are going elsewhere because we have other targets. Would an ambitious player choose Charlton over Brighton? Rose tinted specs or not, you only have to look at TB's investment to know which way we are heading, depsite the naysayers on here.
Time will tell. Hope you're right.

TB has a long term vision. Players don't necessarily think that way though unfortunately for us in the shorter term. Ambitious players looking to move from Championship to Premier League are, on balance, probably likely to choose a number of other clubs ahead of us at the moment, despite us being a so-called 'Premiership ready' club.

Let's hope we start to see a conveyor belt of talent emerging from within the club in the next few years. And before that, I'm looking forward to seeing if, as has been mooted, we will be playing fast, counter attacking football this year. Our transition from defence to attack has been too slow for too long. To go 1-0 down and come back to win a game this season. Now that would be something season ticket holders might find worth celebrating...!

Cheers
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: My thoughts are that those keepers are going elsewhere because we have other targets. Would an ambitious player choose Charlton over Brighton? Rose tinted specs or not, you only have to look at TB's investment to know which way we are heading, depsite the naysayers on here.[/p][/quote]Time will tell. Hope you're right. TB has a long term vision. Players don't necessarily think that way though unfortunately for us in the shorter term. Ambitious players looking to move from Championship to Premier League are, on balance, probably likely to choose a number of other clubs ahead of us at the moment, despite us being a so-called 'Premiership ready' club. Let's hope we start to see a conveyor belt of talent emerging from within the club in the next few years. And before that, I'm looking forward to seeing if, as has been mooted, we will be playing fast, counter attacking football this year. Our transition from defence to attack has been too slow for too long. To go 1-0 down and come back to win a game this season. Now that would be something season ticket holders might find worth celebrating...! Cheers London Dave
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.
Leo underwent his medical yesterday morning and is finalising the details of his contract tonight, but City are also looking to bring in a second striker to add more firepower for their Premier League challenge.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.[/p][/quote]Leo underwent his medical yesterday morning and is finalising the details of his contract tonight, but City are also looking to bring in a second striker to add more firepower for their Premier League challenge. gordongull
  • Score: 0

8:53pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.
Rumour is he didn't start the medical until almost 7pm. How long do these things generally take? He's got no long-standing injuries, so far as we know.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.[/p][/quote]Rumour is he didn't start the medical until almost 7pm. How long do these things generally take? He's got no long-standing injuries, so far as we know. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 4

8:54pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

OldGull wrote:
I take the "Albion Target" statements with a pinch of salt.
It is known that we are after a 1st choice keeper, so it follows that the press link us to any keeper available that is top championship quality.
If all the keepers we have been linked with were serious targets, we would now have about 6 on our books.
The players we sign usually sign within a few days of any publicity.
Stockdale may be a genuine target, but it is just as likely a keeper will be unveiled without weeks of intrigue
There will be more signings within the next 3 weeks
UTA
Who told you that, you must be well connected !
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: I take the "Albion Target" statements with a pinch of salt. It is known that we are after a 1st choice keeper, so it follows that the press link us to any keeper available that is top championship quality. If all the keepers we have been linked with were serious targets, we would now have about 6 on our books. The players we sign usually sign within a few days of any publicity. Stockdale may be a genuine target, but it is just as likely a keeper will be unveiled without weeks of intrigue There will be more signings within the next 3 weeks UTA[/p][/quote]Who told you that, you must be well connected ! Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 4

10:11pm Mon 21 Jul 14

OldGull says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.
WRONG...............
...................
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Either he failed medical or terms not agreed but young Leo Ain't going to Leicester!!! They have put bids in for Deeney as well as Algerian.[/p][/quote]WRONG............... ................... OldGull
  • Score: 5

9:40am Tue 22 Jul 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger .
And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.
Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.
Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read .
In my secondary role as self-appointed President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society I concur fully with my leaders thoughts...

UTA
(and no, all you doubters, we're not related and certainly not the same person...!!!)
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'[/p][/quote]I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger . And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.[/p][/quote]Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.[/p][/quote]Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read .[/p][/quote]In my secondary role as self-appointed President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society I concur fully with my leaders thoughts... UTA (and no, all you doubters, we're not related and certainly not the same person...!!!) Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 2

10:13am Tue 22 Jul 14

MILLIE26 says...

I would suggest Shay Given on a free from Villa on a one year contract.Great keeper,kept 10 out of 16 clean sheets at Boro last year whilst on loan and they did not want him to go back.He was brilliant.Age is not a barrier for that position and would give us time to either develop Walton or identify another.
I would suggest Shay Given on a free from Villa on a one year contract.Great keeper,kept 10 out of 16 clean sheets at Boro last year whilst on loan and they did not want him to go back.He was brilliant.Age is not a barrier for that position and would give us time to either develop Walton or identify another. MILLIE26
  • Score: 2

2:35pm Tue 22 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.
READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .
Hi Tug.
I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'
I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger .
And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.
Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.
Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read .
In my secondary role as self-appointed President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society I concur fully with my leaders thoughts...

UTA
(and no, all you doubters, we're not related and certainly not the same person...!!!)
When all around are keeping their heads and I am losing mine ,it`s nice to know your there JM ,cheers . UTA
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: We have no idea whether Henderson was ever a "target" or not. Other than the fact he's the nephew of former Albion keeper Wayne Henderson he has no connection to the club whatsoever.[/p][/quote]READ THE HEADLINE ,ESPECIALLY THE BIT THAT SAY`S TARGET .[/p][/quote]Hi Tug. I would guess it all comes down to how you define what is or isn't a, 'target.' For me it's simple, if we make an offer he is a target, if we just enquire he isn't. I am sure that we have, 'enquired,' about several players only to find out that they were not available, or were too expensive, that doesn't mean that we missed out on a bunch of, 'targets.'[/p][/quote]I just lost a long post to answer this ,argus presumably didn`t like my final line . Vegas i dont give a monkeys what defines a target ,all i tried to do was pass on a little info . Charlton certainly thought he was one of our TARGETS ,anyone that reads their sites will see that ,Argus thinks he was one of our TARGETS ,read the title of this thread !. As for how The Albion equates a TARGET only they will know , but dont shoot the messenger . And finally ,i at NO point said we missed out on anyone !.[/p][/quote]Tug I was merely offering what my idea of a target is, newspapers and trolls have their ideas for their own reasons. My comment was in no way meant to counter anything that you had offered by way of comment.[/p][/quote]Vegas i`m fed up with all the crap on here ,everyone moans that there`s no news ,so i hunt through the different sites mentioned on rumours sites same as some others i`m sure ,but Quiterie ,who cant read a thread title makes a statement based on zip and all the illiterates slaughter me on the back of it ,makes me wonder if were all on the same bloody side sometimes . No offence to you meant ,but i think half the comments are based on posts that have not been correctly read .[/p][/quote]In my secondary role as self-appointed President of the Tug509 Appreciation Society I concur fully with my leaders thoughts... UTA (and no, all you doubters, we're not related and certainly not the same person...!!!)[/p][/quote]When all around are keeping their heads and I am losing mine ,it`s nice to know your there JM ,cheers . UTA tug509
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