Albion new boy O'Grady can be a big hit

Chris O'Grady was given his debut by former Albion boss Micky Adams

Chris O'Grady was given his debut by former Albion boss Micky Adams

First published in Sport
Last updated
by , Chief sports reporter

Albion can look forward to maximum commitment and a reasonable return of goals from new buy Chris O’Grady, according to the former Seagull responsible for his big break.

Ex-Albion boss Micky Adams gave O’Grady his Football League debut as a 17-year-old at Leicester.

The much-travelled striker moved to the Amex last Friday from relegated Barnsley for a fee believed to be £500,000 after 25 goals in 80 games in the Championship in the last two seasons for the Tykes and Sheffield Wednesday.

He is set to get a first Albion run out in the friendly at Crawley tonight (7.45pm).

Adams, now manager of Port Vale, told The Argus: “He was enthusiastic with good pace. He was a bit raw but one of those honest kids that work hard.

“Character wise he was only a youngster then and a bit quiet but he integrated okay with the group when he was given the opportunity.

“I’ve seen him since his Leicester days and he has scored goals for Sheffield Wednesday and Barnsley.

“That was one of his failings at Leicester but he seems to have improved that recently. Hopefully it will continue with Brighton.”

Albion target Stephen Ward played 45 minutes in a friendly for Wolves under-21s at Telford last night.

The left-back has been told he has no future at Molineux.

Albion are also after a new goalkeeper with Fulham’s David Stockdale among those on their hitlist.

Comments (36)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

6:24am Wed 23 Jul 14

MHubbs says...

I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back.
The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo
I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back. The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo MHubbs
  • Score: 2

6:41am Wed 23 Jul 14

Eddy B says...

...much travelled, nor "honest kid that works hard". Let's hope we are wrong and the article is right!
...much travelled, nor "honest kid that works hard". Let's hope we are wrong and the article is right! Eddy B
  • Score: -5

7:15am Wed 23 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Well it's not exactly a ringing endorsement but then again, Adams' recollections are of COG as kid 11 years ago! So there's nothing of recent relevance here at all and, as a piece of news, it's completely hollow.
I'll wait until a few of you locals have seen him tonight.
Well it's not exactly a ringing endorsement but then again, Adams' recollections are of COG as kid 11 years ago! So there's nothing of recent relevance here at all and, as a piece of news, it's completely hollow. I'll wait until a few of you locals have seen him tonight. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

7:18am Wed 23 Jul 14

Mark Dixon says...

Ward not wanted by Wolves, what are we waiting for. get him signed up.
Ward not wanted by Wolves, what are we waiting for. get him signed up. Mark Dixon
  • Score: 19

7:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

MHubbs wrote:
I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back.
The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo
Steven Dobbie
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back. The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo[/p][/quote]Steven Dobbie Conelli98
  • Score: 8

7:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

Havok82 says...

I agree snap up Ward. But the question is why are no one else snapping him up? It's a little strange
I agree snap up Ward. But the question is why are no one else snapping him up? It's a little strange Havok82
  • Score: 3

8:28am Wed 23 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Maximum commitment---well should we expect anything else from ANY of our players. Albion pay their wages so we should expect ´maximum commitment´ we would not want any player to act like Bridcutt and only give 50% commitment--rather a daft statement IMO Yes the Ward situation strange, maybe the Club will surprise us and he will soon be back---one lives in hope!!
Maximum commitment---well should we expect anything else from ANY of our players. Albion pay their wages so we should expect ´maximum commitment´ we would not want any player to act like Bridcutt and only give 50% commitment--rather a daft statement IMO Yes the Ward situation strange, maybe the Club will surprise us and he will soon be back---one lives in hope!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

8:37am Wed 23 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Mark Dixon wrote:
Ward not wanted by Wolves, what are we waiting for. get him signed up.
Ward won't be back unless he takes a pay cut, as for O'Grady I'm glad we signed him rather than Baldock, O'Grady scored 15 goals in a poor team let's give him a chance!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Mark Dixon[/bold] wrote: Ward not wanted by Wolves, what are we waiting for. get him signed up.[/p][/quote]Ward won't be back unless he takes a pay cut, as for O'Grady I'm glad we signed him rather than Baldock, O'Grady scored 15 goals in a poor team let's give him a chance!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 18

8:40am Wed 23 Jul 14

Clean Sheet says...

Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 11

8:49am Wed 23 Jul 14

Oscar's Chin says...

Conelli98 wrote:
MHubbs wrote:
I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back.
The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo
Steven Dobbie
StePHen Dobbie ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: I recall the same headline regarding peter dobbie a year or two back. The term 'much travelled' never looks great on a footballers CV imo[/p][/quote]Steven Dobbie[/p][/quote]StePHen Dobbie ;0) Oscar's Chin
  • Score: 9

9:05am Wed 23 Jul 14

Yorkieseagull says...

Havok82 wrote:
I agree snap up Ward. But the question is why are no one else snapping him up? It's a little strange
I get the point - he did very well for us last season but could there be some undercurrent which makes him a difficult guy to handle? Surely it can't be all about his wage demands, maybe the way he makes those demands to his employers?
[quote][p][bold]Havok82[/bold] wrote: I agree snap up Ward. But the question is why are no one else snapping him up? It's a little strange[/p][/quote]I get the point - he did very well for us last season but could there be some undercurrent which makes him a difficult guy to handle? Surely it can't be all about his wage demands, maybe the way he makes those demands to his employers? Yorkieseagull
  • Score: -1

9:15am Wed 23 Jul 14

dave from bexill says...

Doesn't COG look good in blue and white stripes.
Doesn't COG look good in blue and white stripes. dave from bexill
  • Score: 11

9:32am Wed 23 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

Peter Dobbie is a reporter......

There must be more to the Ward situation than meets the eye. Maybe he's got an abrasive agent? Are other teams looking at him and thinking he's not worth £13k a week also? Is he just being dumb and greedy and holding out when there is no-one hankering after his services enough to cough up his demands?
Or maybe.....other teams are starting to look at their finances and realising that without a bit of careful purse handling, they might struggle to adhere to FFP? £3k a week = £150k per year and every penny might just be starting to count.
Peter Dobbie is a reporter...... There must be more to the Ward situation than meets the eye. Maybe he's got an abrasive agent? Are other teams looking at him and thinking he's not worth £13k a week also? Is he just being dumb and greedy and holding out when there is no-one hankering after his services enough to cough up his demands? Or maybe.....other teams are starting to look at their finances and realising that without a bit of careful purse handling, they might struggle to adhere to FFP? £3k a week = £150k per year and every penny might just be starting to count. Max Ripple
  • Score: 6

9:44am Wed 23 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

"O Grady can be a big hit" sounds more like hope than expectation. I'm concerned about next season.
"O Grady can be a big hit" sounds more like hope than expectation. I'm concerned about next season. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

10:51am Wed 23 Jul 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Stephen Dobbie scored one of the goals of the season at the Amex - for Blackpool.
Stephen Dobbie scored one of the goals of the season at the Amex - for Blackpool. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 4

10:54am Wed 23 Jul 14

Crucial Point says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
"O Grady can be a big hit" sounds more like hope than expectation. I'm concerned about next season.
Having lost many of our best players, concern is growing by the day...
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: "O Grady can be a big hit" sounds more like hope than expectation. I'm concerned about next season.[/p][/quote]Having lost many of our best players, concern is growing by the day... Crucial Point
  • Score: -4

11:01am Wed 23 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

Clean Sheet wrote:
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good point CS.
Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude.
One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee.
However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago.
Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker.
No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.[/p][/quote]Good point CS. Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude. One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee. However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago. Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker. No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 10

12:33pm Wed 23 Jul 14

gordongull says...

Max Ripple wrote:
Peter Dobbie is a reporter......

There must be more to the Ward situation than meets the eye. Maybe he's got an abrasive agent? Are other teams looking at him and thinking he's not worth £13k a week also? Is he just being dumb and greedy and holding out when there is no-one hankering after his services enough to cough up his demands?
Or maybe.....other teams are starting to look at their finances and realising that without a bit of careful purse handling, they might struggle to adhere to FFP? £3k a week = £150k per year and every penny might just be starting to count.
If you had a contract paying you £13k a week until next June, Max, how would you like it if you found comments on a forum suggesting that you were 'dumb and greedy'for not going somewhere else for £3k a week less?
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: Peter Dobbie is a reporter...... There must be more to the Ward situation than meets the eye. Maybe he's got an abrasive agent? Are other teams looking at him and thinking he's not worth £13k a week also? Is he just being dumb and greedy and holding out when there is no-one hankering after his services enough to cough up his demands? Or maybe.....other teams are starting to look at their finances and realising that without a bit of careful purse handling, they might struggle to adhere to FFP? £3k a week = £150k per year and every penny might just be starting to count.[/p][/quote]If you had a contract paying you £13k a week until next June, Max, how would you like it if you found comments on a forum suggesting that you were 'dumb and greedy'for not going somewhere else for £3k a week less? gordongull
  • Score: 8

1:07pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Eddy B says...

sounds like a Barnes type replacement,
honest & hardworking is obviously the least you expect from any player but you don't hear Bale and Ronaldo being described as such, it's code for a bit limited :)
sounds like a Barnes type replacement, honest & hardworking is obviously the least you expect from any player but you don't hear Bale and Ronaldo being described as such, it's code for a bit limited :) Eddy B
  • Score: 5

1:27pm Wed 23 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

I imagine and trust that both O'Grady and Hughes will play at some stage this evening against Crawley but wonder if either will start. This has got me speculating on who might start and who might be on the bench.
Assuming everybody other than Crofts and Stephens are fit here is a possible selection and my personal preference - I am sure other posters will have their own thoughts which I would be interested to see.
Walton, Calderon, Greer, Hughes, Chicksen, Toko, Ince, Agustien, Buckley, CMS, March. Subs: Ankergren, Dunk, Maksimenko, JFC, Harris/Fenelon, LuaLua, O'Grady.
Whilst I am reasonably confident that the squad will consist of 18 of those 19 names I suspect the starting team to be different with Angergren, JFC and possibly O'Grady or LuaLua featuring initially instead of Walton, Ince and March.
Comments welcomed.
Embarking on this 'selection' exercise brought home to me how stretched our playing resources are and how much we really need IMHO another 5 or 6 players.
With only 17 days until we play Wednesday, Burke and his team really need to ensure that SH is able to bring in some new players sooner rather than later to provide the Albion with the best opportunity of having a strong start to the season - unlike last year when we struggled initially and never quite got back to where we might have. Actually after starting so poorly the team did well to nick into the play-offs in the Forest game.
I know there are 40 days remaining until the transfer window closes but now that we have the funds from Ulloa's sale (plus Bridcutt's and Barnes's) I think we would benefit by moving quickly to secure potential targets rather than waiting to 1 September as we did 2 years ago.
Onwards and Upwards.
I imagine and trust that both O'Grady and Hughes will play at some stage this evening against Crawley but wonder if either will start. This has got me speculating on who might start and who might be on the bench. Assuming everybody other than Crofts and Stephens are fit here is a possible selection and my personal preference - I am sure other posters will have their own thoughts which I would be interested to see. Walton, Calderon, Greer, Hughes, Chicksen, Toko, Ince, Agustien, Buckley, CMS, March. Subs: Ankergren, Dunk, Maksimenko, JFC, Harris/Fenelon, LuaLua, O'Grady. Whilst I am reasonably confident that the squad will consist of 18 of those 19 names I suspect the starting team to be different with Angergren, JFC and possibly O'Grady or LuaLua featuring initially instead of Walton, Ince and March. Comments welcomed. Embarking on this 'selection' exercise brought home to me how stretched our playing resources are and how much we really need IMHO another 5 or 6 players. With only 17 days until we play Wednesday, Burke and his team really need to ensure that SH is able to bring in some new players sooner rather than later to provide the Albion with the best opportunity of having a strong start to the season - unlike last year when we struggled initially and never quite got back to where we might have. Actually after starting so poorly the team did well to nick into the play-offs in the Forest game. I know there are 40 days remaining until the transfer window closes but now that we have the funds from Ulloa's sale (plus Bridcutt's and Barnes's) I think we would benefit by moving quickly to secure potential targets rather than waiting to 1 September as we did 2 years ago. Onwards and Upwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: 8

1:56pm Wed 23 Jul 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good point CS.
Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude.
One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee.
However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago.
Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker.
No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.
I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.[/p][/quote]Good point CS. Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude. One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee. However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago. Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker. No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.[/p][/quote]I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 4

3:40pm Wed 23 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

The movement of players in and out of the prem clubs is ramping up, I am wondering how many more deals need to be completed before those clubs identify just who they will le go out on loan.
I have this feeling that those positions in our squad that need filling, but might cost big money to fill, will be loanees. With Lingard included in United's tour he might not be available but if he were, I doubt we could buy him. A new striker of, 'quality,' could be a loanee but I could also see us buying another, 'O'Grady, type'.
The fact that we reportedly have a bid in to buy a keeper might suggest that we are lookiging for longer term stability in this position, but there is still the question of another center back and left back. All the talk is about getting Ward back as a purchase, so could we be looking to buy one and borrow the other.

I don't think that getting the Leo money is going to change our approach to obtaining new players. I am of the opinion that the club is working one season behind. Money made last season from sales is funding this season's dealings, probabaly topped up by the board as money is set aside each year for transfers.
The movement of players in and out of the prem clubs is ramping up, I am wondering how many more deals need to be completed before those clubs identify just who they will le go out on loan. I have this feeling that those positions in our squad that need filling, but might cost big money to fill, will be loanees. With Lingard included in United's tour he might not be available but if he were, I doubt we could buy him. A new striker of, 'quality,' could be a loanee but I could also see us buying another, 'O'Grady, type'. The fact that we reportedly have a bid in to buy a keeper might suggest that we are lookiging for longer term stability in this position, but there is still the question of another center back and left back. All the talk is about getting Ward back as a purchase, so could we be looking to buy one and borrow the other. I don't think that getting the Leo money is going to change our approach to obtaining new players. I am of the opinion that the club is working one season behind. Money made last season from sales is funding this season's dealings, probabaly topped up by the board as money is set aside each year for transfers. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -4

3:44pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

ballantrrae wrote:
I imagine and trust that both O'Grady and Hughes will play at some stage this evening against Crawley but wonder if either will start. This has got me speculating on who might start and who might be on the bench.
Assuming everybody other than Crofts and Stephens are fit here is a possible selection and my personal preference - I am sure other posters will have their own thoughts which I would be interested to see.
Walton, Calderon, Greer, Hughes, Chicksen, Toko, Ince, Agustien, Buckley, CMS, March. Subs: Ankergren, Dunk, Maksimenko, JFC, Harris/Fenelon, LuaLua, O'Grady.
Whilst I am reasonably confident that the squad will consist of 18 of those 19 names I suspect the starting team to be different with Angergren, JFC and possibly O'Grady or LuaLua featuring initially instead of Walton, Ince and March.
Comments welcomed.
Embarking on this 'selection' exercise brought home to me how stretched our playing resources are and how much we really need IMHO another 5 or 6 players.
With only 17 days until we play Wednesday, Burke and his team really need to ensure that SH is able to bring in some new players sooner rather than later to provide the Albion with the best opportunity of having a strong start to the season - unlike last year when we struggled initially and never quite got back to where we might have. Actually after starting so poorly the team did well to nick into the play-offs in the Forest game.
I know there are 40 days remaining until the transfer window closes but now that we have the funds from Ulloa's sale (plus Bridcutt's and Barnes's) I think we would benefit by moving quickly to secure potential targets rather than waiting to 1 September as we did 2 years ago.
Onwards and Upwards.
I'd go with the same line-up as you, Ballantrrae, with the exception of having COG start in place of CMS, who would start on the bench (but start in the first 11 at his old stomping ground of London Road on Saturday).
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: I imagine and trust that both O'Grady and Hughes will play at some stage this evening against Crawley but wonder if either will start. This has got me speculating on who might start and who might be on the bench. Assuming everybody other than Crofts and Stephens are fit here is a possible selection and my personal preference - I am sure other posters will have their own thoughts which I would be interested to see. Walton, Calderon, Greer, Hughes, Chicksen, Toko, Ince, Agustien, Buckley, CMS, March. Subs: Ankergren, Dunk, Maksimenko, JFC, Harris/Fenelon, LuaLua, O'Grady. Whilst I am reasonably confident that the squad will consist of 18 of those 19 names I suspect the starting team to be different with Angergren, JFC and possibly O'Grady or LuaLua featuring initially instead of Walton, Ince and March. Comments welcomed. Embarking on this 'selection' exercise brought home to me how stretched our playing resources are and how much we really need IMHO another 5 or 6 players. With only 17 days until we play Wednesday, Burke and his team really need to ensure that SH is able to bring in some new players sooner rather than later to provide the Albion with the best opportunity of having a strong start to the season - unlike last year when we struggled initially and never quite got back to where we might have. Actually after starting so poorly the team did well to nick into the play-offs in the Forest game. I know there are 40 days remaining until the transfer window closes but now that we have the funds from Ulloa's sale (plus Bridcutt's and Barnes's) I think we would benefit by moving quickly to secure potential targets rather than waiting to 1 September as we did 2 years ago. Onwards and Upwards.[/p][/quote]I'd go with the same line-up as you, Ballantrrae, with the exception of having COG start in place of CMS, who would start on the bench (but start in the first 11 at his old stomping ground of London Road on Saturday). Captain Haddock
  • Score: 4

3:48pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good point CS.
Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude.
One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee.
However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago.
Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker.
No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.
I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.
But to me that's the point, he'd be borrowed as a CB and would therefore have a better chance of being fielded in his preferred position and what's more at a more football standard to get him in the swing.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.[/p][/quote]Good point CS. Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude. One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee. However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago. Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker. No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.[/p][/quote]I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.[/p][/quote]But to me that's the point, he'd be borrowed as a CB and would therefore have a better chance of being fielded in his preferred position and what's more at a more football standard to get him in the swing. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good point CS.
Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude.
One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee.
However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago.
Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker.
No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.
I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.
But to me that's the point, he'd be borrowed as a CB and would therefore have a better chance of being fielded in his preferred position and what's more at a more football standard to get him in the swing.
("At a more accessible standard")
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.[/p][/quote]Good point CS. Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude. One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee. However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago. Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker. No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.[/p][/quote]I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.[/p][/quote]But to me that's the point, he'd be borrowed as a CB and would therefore have a better chance of being fielded in his preferred position and what's more at a more football standard to get him in the swing.[/p][/quote]("At a more accessible standard") Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

4:22pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month.

Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up).

Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad.

I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other.

Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players.

Can't wait to find out who they might be!






From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following:

GK - Stockdale / Butland
LB - Ward / Robinson
CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!!
M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS)
AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!!
S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan)


P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player.
Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month. Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up). Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad. I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other. Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players. Can't wait to find out who they might be! From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following: GK - Stockdale / Butland LB - Ward / Robinson CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!! M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS) AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!! S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan) P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 7

4:46pm Wed 23 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Clean Sheet wrote:
Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.
Good point CS.
Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude.
One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee.
However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago.
Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker.
No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.
I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.
SOS I originally thought the same thing but since the rumour persisted I thought it was worth mentioning.
Of course as Captain Haddock points out it may well be that we are not interested in him as a FB but as a CB. Alternatively, as I think another poster (Oscar's Chin ?) I believe pointed out a few days back, whoever instigated the rumour may have got the right club (Liverpool) but the wrong player. Perhaps we are interested in Liverpool's young LB Robinson. This seems feasible given that we don't appear to be pursuing Ward.
On the topic of potential targets I saw a report that Middlesbrough have 'cooled' their interest in Clayton (Huddersfield). I hope and trust that we are still pursuing him since he is a good option for the creative midfielder that seems to be on our hit list.
I have also read a rumour that we are interested in Red Bull Salzburg's CF Jonatan (Jonathan) Soriano. He certainly looks the type of striker we should be considering having scored a bucketful of goals for Barcelona 'B' and an amazing 60+ goals for Salzburg in about 72 appearances . The main problem with Soriano is that he would cost around £4 - 5 million.
I really think we need to start getting some of the 5 or 6 new players that SH still wants ASAP and I would feel more relaxed if we signed 2 or 3 by the beginning of next week (I don't expect any movement in the next 24 hours). With the funds received from Ulloa's sale we should be able to afford to pay fees up to say £1.3 million for each of the 6 newcomers or £3 million for one and £1 million for each of the other 5 recruits.
The advantage of that strategy being that we should still have most of the monies raised by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and El-Abd available to meet other future needs.
Interesting times ahead. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clean Sheet[/bold] wrote: Good to see that Ward is trying to get match fit for his return to Brighton.[/p][/quote]Good point CS. Glad to see that even as a 'current' international Ward is not so proud that he won't turn out in a DS friendly - good attitude. One point re Ward worth remembering in the short term is that every week we are not paying his £13,000 wages (£14,500 approx. with NI) saves the Albion money which could be directed towards a Signing On fee. However I wouldn't be surprised if we are now looking at alternative options - I have seen rumours of the club being interested in Martin Kelly (Liverpool) who was on the fringe of the England team a couple of years ago. Revering to O'Grady the Argus is reporting on the inside back page some comments by Dicker about the problems O'Grady caused BHA when playing Rochdale in our League One title winning season which posters might find worthwhile reading. The more I hear about O'Grady the more I feel he could prove to be a most useful back-up Striker. No doubt we will get a better idea of his attributes this evening at Crawley. UTA.[/p][/quote]I can't see Martin Kelly coming to the Albion.He has played most of his career at right back.[/p][/quote]SOS I originally thought the same thing but since the rumour persisted I thought it was worth mentioning. Of course as Captain Haddock points out it may well be that we are not interested in him as a FB but as a CB. Alternatively, as I think another poster (Oscar's Chin ?) I believe pointed out a few days back, whoever instigated the rumour may have got the right club (Liverpool) but the wrong player. Perhaps we are interested in Liverpool's young LB Robinson. This seems feasible given that we don't appear to be pursuing Ward. On the topic of potential targets I saw a report that Middlesbrough have 'cooled' their interest in Clayton (Huddersfield). I hope and trust that we are still pursuing him since he is a good option for the creative midfielder that seems to be on our hit list. I have also read a rumour that we are interested in Red Bull Salzburg's CF Jonatan (Jonathan) Soriano. He certainly looks the type of striker we should be considering having scored a bucketful of goals for Barcelona 'B' and an amazing 60+ goals for Salzburg in about 72 appearances . The main problem with Soriano is that he would cost around £4 - 5 million. I really think we need to start getting some of the 5 or 6 new players that SH still wants ASAP and I would feel more relaxed if we signed 2 or 3 by the beginning of next week (I don't expect any movement in the next 24 hours). With the funds received from Ulloa's sale we should be able to afford to pay fees up to say £1.3 million for each of the 6 newcomers or £3 million for one and £1 million for each of the other 5 recruits. The advantage of that strategy being that we should still have most of the monies raised by selling Barnes, Bridcutt and El-Abd available to meet other future needs. Interesting times ahead. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

4:47pm Wed 23 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Capt H---lets hope at least some of your ´predictions´bear fruit!!
Capt H---lets hope at least some of your ´predictions´bear fruit!! mikeygit
  • Score: 1

5:16pm Wed 23 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -1

5:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
Vegas, briefly to answer your question being sceptical I don't really see the club spending al the £8 mill from Ulloa's sale but it should be feasible if the club wanted.
David Jones said at a Seagulls over London meeting that BHA had not needed to sell Bridcutt, Barnes etc.
Secondly I have always liked your keeping funds for January Strategy.
It should be possible and practical to both spend the £8 million and keep about £3 mill back for January.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.[/p][/quote]Vegas, briefly to answer your question being sceptical I don't really see the club spending al the £8 mill from Ulloa's sale but it should be feasible if the club wanted. David Jones said at a Seagulls over London meeting that BHA had not needed to sell Bridcutt, Barnes etc. Secondly I have always liked your keeping funds for January Strategy. It should be possible and practical to both spend the £8 million and keep about £3 mill back for January. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Wed 23 Jul 14

albionfan33 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.[/p][/quote]o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan albionfan33
  • Score: 2

7:12pm Wed 23 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

albionfan33 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan
well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it.
I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way.
[quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.[/p][/quote]o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan[/p][/quote]well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it. I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

7:28pm Wed 23 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month.

Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up).

Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad.

I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other.

Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players.

Can't wait to find out who they might be!






From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following:

GK - Stockdale / Butland
LB - Ward / Robinson
CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!!
M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS)
AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!!
S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan)


P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player.
Evening, I'm a massive Clayton fan best in this league in my opinion, also would love Bamford or Becchio up front, I would like to Wilson or Lawrence from united as well both good players,
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month. Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up). Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad. I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other. Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players. Can't wait to find out who they might be! From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following: GK - Stockdale / Butland LB - Ward / Robinson CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!! M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS) AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!! S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan) P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player.[/p][/quote]Evening, I'm a massive Clayton fan best in this league in my opinion, also would love Bamford or Becchio up front, I would like to Wilson or Lawrence from united as well both good players, JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

7:42pm Wed 23 Jul 14

albionfan33 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
albionfan33 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan
well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it.
I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way.
i can only guess that we have nearly all the budget still available and as we knew we would be at least 6 players light we must of had a decent sized budget to begin with maybe some of the leo money will go towards enhancing what we can pay in wages to get the extra bit of quality or maybe we will buy 3 2mil players now and keep 3-4 mil by for a rainy day
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.[/p][/quote]o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan[/p][/quote]well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it. I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way.[/p][/quote]i can only guess that we have nearly all the budget still available and as we knew we would be at least 6 players light we must of had a decent sized budget to begin with maybe some of the leo money will go towards enhancing what we can pay in wages to get the extra bit of quality or maybe we will buy 3 2mil players now and keep 3-4 mil by for a rainy day albionfan33
  • Score: 3

12:10am Thu 24 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote: Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month. Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up). Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad. I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other. Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players. Can't wait to find out who they might be! From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following: GK - Stockdale / Butland LB - Ward / Robinson CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!! M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS) AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!! S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan) P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player.
Evening, I'm a massive Clayton fan best in this league in my opinion, also would love Bamford or Becchio up front, I would like to Wilson or Lawrence from united as well both good players,
Yup, both good shouts. Young but could shine if given the forum to do so.

Also, I forgot to include Ibe in my wish list.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: Spoke to a friend of mine today who 'has an ear near the corridors at The AMEX'. Apparently we are closing in on two permanent deals (this week) and we also have two Liverpool loan arrangements in the pipeline, although those may not be confirmed until the end of month. Wasn't given any names but have been told the permanent acquisitions would be from Championship clubs (assuming they get tied-up). Don't know about you guys but I'd be particularly delighted if one of those names is Adam Clayton. I'd also be pretty happy if the other turns out to be David Stockdale. Both players have been linked with us to one degree or another and both would be welcome and strong additions to our squad. I would guess the Liverpool players are likely to be development squad or fringe players from Anfield. Jordan Ibe would undoubtedly be my first preference, with perhaps Kelly or Jack Robinson the other. Have also been told the club are making moves for a couple of their primary "Ulloa sold scenario" players. Can't wait to find out who they might be! From this point, I'd be a very happy man if we acquired the following: GK - Stockdale / Butland LB - Ward / Robinson CB - Kelly / Chile's Gonzalez!!! M - Clayton / Chalobah / Ben Pringle / Lewis Baker (Chelsea DS) AM / S - Dominic Solanke (Chelsea U18s)... On proviso we use him at our discretion)... He's not 17yrs til Sept btw!!! S - Becchio / Bamford / Agard / Domenico Berardi (Juve 19yr old - loan) P.S Gutted Tavernier (Newcastle youngster on loan to Rotherham last year) has moved to Wigan. He's a really good player we'll now have to face rather than enjoy as an Albion player.[/p][/quote]Evening, I'm a massive Clayton fan best in this league in my opinion, also would love Bamford or Becchio up front, I would like to Wilson or Lawrence from united as well both good players,[/p][/quote]Yup, both good shouts. Young but could shine if given the forum to do so. Also, I forgot to include Ibe in my wish list. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Thu 24 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
albionfan33 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening.
Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players.
The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M.

If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't.

Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.
o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan
well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it.
I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way.
Vegas I see where you are coming from but feel that we would benefit by investing in new players sooner rather than later
Having reached the play-offs in both of the last 2 seasons we need to keep the momentum going if for no other reason to maintain the level of our season ticket sales and attendance figures.
We have a new Manager and need to buy another 5 or 6 players . These 5/6 players will need integrating into the team as will the existing 3 new recruits (Toko, Hughes and COG). The sooner we have a settled and complete quality squad the better.
I agree with your 'holding some cash back for January' strategy as I have posted before but at some stage BHA has to take the plunge and push the boat out although obviously without jeopardizing its fiscal security or FFP status. Any Cash retained for January should be used either/or to make only a couple of signings at most or to help meet our FFP target.
The sales in the last 7 months should provide more than sufficient funds to acquire not only the players we want now (either on loan or permanently) but also leave fairly substantial funds for January
For the record Vegas I prefer permanent signings but failing that only season long loans where we know we have the player for the whole season.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionfan33[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Ballantrrae do you honestly think that the club will spend the Leo money in such numbers that it would all be used up, I just can't see that happening. Last year in a question and answer session with Barber, he made it clear that we would meet our FFP requirements without selling players, we then sold around 5M's worth of players. The club would have had a plan for this season's spending and how to meet our FFP requiremnts, and my guess is that the plan would have been centered around last years sales plus a bit more, a possible total of say, 7M. If the money from the sale of Ulloa is not used at this time, and if we have a need, or a wish, depending on how our season is going come January, we will be well placed to make a couple of moves. I just don't see the club spending huge amounts just because we sold Leo. Had we not sold him our needs would have been different but we still would have had needs, and a budget would have been set to fill those needs. The buying of Hughes for 500K, to me, is a pointer that should not be ignored as when we signed him those in power at the Amex must surely have had a good idea that Leo was going. We could have held off on Hughes and gone for a 3M striker who might have been seen as a better proposition, but we didn't. Will the selling of Leo make a change to our planned expenditure, possibly, but will it change our plans big time, I think not. Buying a keeper for around 1M and the buying of Ward, I can see that happening, or deals of that type if not those two actual players, but players that would cost decent money, I think that they will be loan targets.[/p][/quote]o'grady was coming regardless of selling leo. Also as tb and pb have said we didnt need to sell. I can only assume from that that we was going to be inside ffp rules with the budget given. So there is no reason in my eyes that all the leo monies wont go towards new signings either now or in jan[/p][/quote]well I guess the question becomes, should be spend the Leo money by buying three quality players, or whould we borrow those players. With an apparent wage cap at the club our pay-out on wages for the three would expectedly be the same, or close to it. I would rather we keep the Leo money, or most of it, as an insurance policy or to make a couple of crucial signings should we either be close to the top of the division come January, or in trouble. Our regular budget allocation should be enough to buy those for other positions, and those purchases have already got under way.[/p][/quote]Vegas I see where you are coming from but feel that we would benefit by investing in new players sooner rather than later Having reached the play-offs in both of the last 2 seasons we need to keep the momentum going if for no other reason to maintain the level of our season ticket sales and attendance figures. We have a new Manager and need to buy another 5 or 6 players . These 5/6 players will need integrating into the team as will the existing 3 new recruits (Toko, Hughes and COG). The sooner we have a settled and complete quality squad the better. I agree with your 'holding some cash back for January' strategy as I have posted before but at some stage BHA has to take the plunge and push the boat out although obviously without jeopardizing its fiscal security or FFP status. Any Cash retained for January should be used either/or to make only a couple of signings at most or to help meet our FFP target. The sales in the last 7 months should provide more than sufficient funds to acquire not only the players we want now (either on loan or permanently) but also leave fairly substantial funds for January For the record Vegas I prefer permanent signings but failing that only season long loans where we know we have the player for the whole season. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree