Macca: Let's add some experience

Craig Mackail-Smith in action at Crawley on Wednesday

Craig Mackail-Smith in action at Crawley on Wednesday

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Craig Mackail-Smith wants Albion to add more experience to the squad as he heads back to his old club Peterborough tomorrow.

Six of the starting eleven for Wednesday night’s 1-1 friendly draw at Crawley were aged 23 or under.

Striker Mackail-Smith, 30, said: “If we get a few injuries we are struggling a little bit and we’ve got a very, very young team. Quite a few of them I don’t think have played much in the Championship.

“I think we need a few experienced players to come in but that’s obviously down to the gaffer and the chairman.

“They know the right people they want to bring in and hopefully that will be before the beginning of the season and we will be ready to go come the ninth (of August).”

Mackail-Smith goes back to Peterborough for tomorrow’s friendly at London Road (3pm) with three goals under his belt in four games after returning in April from 13 months out with Achilles and ankle problems.

He said: “I am getting through, that is the most important thing, pushing through every day. I haven’t done a pre-season for a year so my aim is to get through it and feel strong and fit ready for the beginning of the season.”

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5:16am Fri 25 Jul 14

Weploughandmow says...

As it stands, this is the player on whom our hope rests so his views should be listened to. Right now CMS is the most talented player in the squad and we need to be building our team in a way that enables him to score goals - he's never had that service before and it's a crime that we haven't made the most of his ability. Chris O'Grady is a good start. It's a shame he never got the chance to form a partnership with Ulloa but £8 million you can't turn down for a player that is probably worth four. If we set ourselves up to provide chances for Craig, I think we'll see goals. His conversation rate is far better than Barnes' or Ulloa's ever were. So we need a midfielder who can get the ball forward quickly (like Crofts), a winger with pace that can get the ball in the box (like LuaLua or Buckley) and a big striker who can hold the ball up and disrupt the central defenders. Hang on....
As it stands, this is the player on whom our hope rests so his views should be listened to. Right now CMS is the most talented player in the squad and we need to be building our team in a way that enables him to score goals - he's never had that service before and it's a crime that we haven't made the most of his ability. Chris O'Grady is a good start. It's a shame he never got the chance to form a partnership with Ulloa but £8 million you can't turn down for a player that is probably worth four. If we set ourselves up to provide chances for Craig, I think we'll see goals. His conversation rate is far better than Barnes' or Ulloa's ever were. So we need a midfielder who can get the ball forward quickly (like Crofts), a winger with pace that can get the ball in the box (like LuaLua or Buckley) and a big striker who can hold the ball up and disrupt the central defenders. Hang on.... Weploughandmow
  • Score: 33

5:56am Fri 25 Jul 14

twonk says...

CMS hasn't done a pre-season in a year?
CMS hasn't done a pre-season in a year? twonk
  • Score: 3

6:01am Fri 25 Jul 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia says...

Weploughandmow wrote:
As it stands, this is the player on whom our hope rests so his views should be listened to. Right now CMS is the most talented player in the squad and we need to be building our team in a way that enables him to score goals - he's never had that service before and it's a crime that we haven't made the most of his ability. Chris O'Grady is a good start. It's a shame he never got the chance to form a partnership with Ulloa but £8 million you can't turn down for a player that is probably worth four. If we set ourselves up to provide chances for Craig, I think we'll see goals. His conversation rate is far better than Barnes' or Ulloa's ever were. So we need a midfielder who can get the ball forward quickly (like Crofts), a winger with pace that can get the ball in the box (like LuaLua or Buckley) and a big striker who can hold the ball up and disrupt the central defenders. Hang on....
Agree with pretty much all you say there, Weploughandmow. CMS is due a good season and, injury permitting, he currently sits in pole position for all our hopes and expectations. COG might well prove to be a good sparring partner for him and it will be interesting to see the two together up front. But, as Sami has said, we do need more attacking options so we can mix things around and make ourselves less predicable than we have been for the last couple of seasons. My main concern is the effect that injuries could have if we had anything like a repeat of last year. I wonder if CMS is in fact warming is up for something that the club and players know about but we, obviously, don't. I'm sure he will have a good inkling of the club's transfer targets and plans... well I hope so anyway!!

UTA!!
[quote][p][bold]Weploughandmow[/bold] wrote: As it stands, this is the player on whom our hope rests so his views should be listened to. Right now CMS is the most talented player in the squad and we need to be building our team in a way that enables him to score goals - he's never had that service before and it's a crime that we haven't made the most of his ability. Chris O'Grady is a good start. It's a shame he never got the chance to form a partnership with Ulloa but £8 million you can't turn down for a player that is probably worth four. If we set ourselves up to provide chances for Craig, I think we'll see goals. His conversation rate is far better than Barnes' or Ulloa's ever were. So we need a midfielder who can get the ball forward quickly (like Crofts), a winger with pace that can get the ball in the box (like LuaLua or Buckley) and a big striker who can hold the ball up and disrupt the central defenders. Hang on....[/p][/quote]Agree with pretty much all you say there, Weploughandmow. CMS is due a good season and, injury permitting, he currently sits in pole position for all our hopes and expectations. COG might well prove to be a good sparring partner for him and it will be interesting to see the two together up front. But, as Sami has said, we do need more attacking options so we can mix things around and make ourselves less predicable than we have been for the last couple of seasons. My main concern is the effect that injuries could have [again!] if we had anything like a repeat of last year. I wonder if CMS is in fact warming is up for something that the club and players know about but we, obviously, don't. I'm sure he will have a good inkling of the club's transfer targets and plans... well I hope so anyway!! UTA!! Singing Seagull, Indonesia
  • Score: 2

6:33am Fri 25 Jul 14

namgo49 says...

We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems.

I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!!
We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems. I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!! namgo49
  • Score: 22

6:53am Fri 25 Jul 14

Cap'n Pugwash says...

namgo49 wrote:
We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems.

I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!!
If you don't know where the money is going then you need to investigate further. As for Forest buying up players on a daily basis, that worked well for them last season didn't it? They are in 'sh1t or bust' mode right now. If they don't go up this season they could be in big trouble financially.
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems. I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!![/p][/quote]If you don't know where the money is going then you need to investigate further. As for Forest buying up players on a daily basis, that worked well for them last season didn't it? They are in 'sh1t or bust' mode right now. If they don't go up this season they could be in big trouble financially. Cap'n Pugwash
  • Score: 12

6:58am Fri 25 Jul 14

Albion fan in London says...

This will all suddenly happen like it did last year. The market in the championship is the same for all clubs this year bar a couple who clearly are not thinking too much about FFP. As someone mentioned the World Cup has a delayed the signings for everyone and we are feeling the knock on of this. It makes you wonder if the window should be closed the first week in August to stop this mass rush once the season has started.
This will all suddenly happen like it did last year. The market in the championship is the same for all clubs this year bar a couple who clearly are not thinking too much about FFP. As someone mentioned the World Cup has a delayed the signings for everyone and we are feeling the knock on of this. It makes you wonder if the window should be closed the first week in August to stop this mass rush once the season has started. Albion fan in London
  • Score: 1

6:59am Fri 25 Jul 14

Mossie707 says...

namgo49 wrote:
We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems.

I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!!
New Stadium and Training Facilities FFP and Debt Management! However, it can all go for a ball of chalk if we can't compete in the Championship. Get some in!
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems. I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!![/p][/quote]New Stadium and Training Facilities FFP and Debt Management! However, it can all go for a ball of chalk if we can't compete in the Championship. Get some in! Mossie707
  • Score: 12

7:08am Fri 25 Jul 14

SMF20 says...

Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return.
Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return. SMF20
  • Score: 7

7:31am Fri 25 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 10

8:13am Fri 25 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

SMF20 wrote:
Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return.
Or even Bobby Z?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return.[/p][/quote]Or even Bobby Z? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -10

8:14am Fri 25 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Morning, another silent day from the Amex, are the "suits" on holiday?
Morning, another silent day from the Amex, are the "suits" on holiday? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -5

8:28am Fri 25 Jul 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?
I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be? B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: -1

8:32am Fri 25 Jul 14

tug509 says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Morning Jeff ,
I said yesterday that I hope we have a stampede of players through the door before 9/8 ,but we have not seen much to back that so far ,and with total silence from the club it`s hard to see any change . Stockdale ,Becchio or Bamford ,Clayton and maybe Ward plus a CB , would be brilliant ,and I know I sound like a bust record ,BUT if it was all in Sami`s hands I would have faith ,if it`s in Burkes heaven help us .
Just for those who think I am too negative ,the other Friday I think it was I said we would sign someone ,and we did ,so I will say the same today . UTA
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Morning Jeff , I said yesterday that I hope we have a stampede of players through the door before 9/8 ,but we have not seen much to back that so far ,and with total silence from the club it`s hard to see any change . Stockdale ,Becchio or Bamford ,Clayton and maybe Ward plus a CB , would be brilliant ,and I know I sound like a bust record ,BUT if it was all in Sami`s hands I would have faith ,if it`s in Burkes heaven help us . Just for those who think I am too negative ,the other Friday I think it was I said we would sign someone ,and we did ,so I will say the same today . UTA tug509
  • Score: -3

8:35am Fri 25 Jul 14

Baldseagull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
I can see Ward returning one way or another, he is not being courted by anyone else as far as I know.
£150k over the next 12 months is the difference between the wages we will pay and what he currently gets I believe, we don't want to pay it, Wolves don't want to pay it, but if they can't move him on in the transfer window, loaning him out and covering the £3k a week will be better than paying him around £300k to train with the reserves till the next window in January.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I can see Ward returning one way or another, he is not being courted by anyone else as far as I know. £150k over the next 12 months is the difference between the wages we will pay and what he currently gets I believe, we don't want to pay it, Wolves don't want to pay it, but if they can't move him on in the transfer window, loaning him out and covering the £3k a week will be better than paying him around £300k to train with the reserves till the next window in January. Baldseagull
  • Score: 5

8:52am Fri 25 Jul 14

Grummitt says...

You never know TB may take his wallet with him to Peterborough tomorrow slap a few quid on the table, get Macca to have a chat with his father in law and come home with Britt Assombalonga in his shopping bag. Just a thought.
You never know TB may take his wallet with him to Peterborough tomorrow slap a few quid on the table, get Macca to have a chat with his father in law and come home with Britt Assombalonga in his shopping bag. Just a thought. Grummitt
  • Score: 7

8:56am Fri 25 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Jeff, You make it sound so easy!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Jeff, You make it sound so easy! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

9:18am Fri 25 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.
What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -5

9:22am Fri 25 Jul 14

Claude Back says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?
Promotion?
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?[/p][/quote]Promotion? Claude Back
  • Score: 5

9:25am Fri 25 Jul 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Jeff, You make it sound so easy!
Morning Staffs, it's never easy being a Brighton fan over the years but we all come back year after year, I won't come on here slagging off the people who are working hard to get players in for us, we can all come on here moaning but makes no difference, we only got Leo's deal completed in Monday so hopefully we've got 2 or 3 lined up next week,

Tug I get what your saying about not many signings happening, the players I've mentioned are probably still on pre season tours, I'd be curious about whether Becchio starts for Norwich if not we could get him cheaper, who would you like to come in any ideas,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Jeff, You make it sound so easy![/p][/quote]Morning Staffs, it's never easy being a Brighton fan over the years but we all come back year after year, I won't come on here slagging off the people who are working hard to get players in for us, we can all come on here moaning but makes no difference, we only got Leo's deal completed in Monday so hopefully we've got 2 or 3 lined up next week, Tug I get what your saying about not many signings happening, the players I've mentioned are probably still on pre season tours, I'd be curious about whether Becchio starts for Norwich if not we could get him cheaper, who would you like to come in any ideas, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 3

9:39am Fri 25 Jul 14

OldGull says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead OldGull
  • Score: 8

9:59am Fri 25 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
I love your shopping list Jeff, I really do, but I can't see it happening. We've even got CMS coming out now and subtly pleading for the club to start seriously buying players.

Here come the thumbs down....... I have to say I disagree with those saying that the World Cup has got in the way of players being available. It hasn't stopped other clubs sorting out their squads. We are hoping that Prem clubs will start to buy successful World Cup players from around the world and let some of their other players go. Maybe they will but these are Prem players who now expect £30,40,50k a week wages. Just a bit out of our league, I feel.

I hope to God that we haven't completely lost sight of what is happening around us.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]I love your shopping list Jeff, I really do, but I can't see it happening. We've even got CMS coming out now and subtly pleading for the club to start seriously buying players. Here come the thumbs down....... I have to say I disagree with those saying that the World Cup has got in the way of players being available. It hasn't stopped other clubs sorting out their squads. We are hoping that Prem clubs will start to buy successful World Cup players from around the world and let some of their other players go. Maybe they will but these are Prem players who now expect £30,40,50k a week wages. Just a bit out of our league, I feel. I hope to God that we haven't completely lost sight of what is happening around us. Max Ripple
  • Score: -5

10:10am Fri 25 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA Conelli98
  • Score: 3

10:11am Fri 25 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

10:12am Fri 25 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath.... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

10:42am Fri 25 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA tug509
  • Score: -1

10:44am Fri 25 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.
You crack me up !
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.[/p][/quote]You crack me up ! tug509
  • Score: 0

10:46am Fri 25 Jul 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

It's frustrating but we all have to keep the faith.
Things will start happening soon. Glass half full. UTA
It's frustrating but we all have to keep the faith. Things will start happening soon. Glass half full. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 3

10:50am Fri 25 Jul 14

pte says...

Sit down CMS you're rocking the boat.

No, TB has no choice but to get a proven striker. If he does then come the january window he has the option of selling CMS before he goes on a Bosman but if he doesn't that option is gone. Spend it now or lose it in January, it's a no brainer to any decent businessman.

Also TB has no choice but to get a decent goalkeeper and maybe Ward will come back.

So I expect movements as I can't believe TB would be so dopey as to have his options tied and depend on a shaky keeper for the whole of the season
Sit down CMS you're rocking the boat. No, TB has no choice but to get a proven striker. If he does then come the january window he has the option of selling CMS before he goes on a Bosman but if he doesn't that option is gone. Spend it now or lose it in January, it's a no brainer to any decent businessman. Also TB has no choice but to get a decent goalkeeper and maybe Ward will come back. So I expect movements as I can't believe TB would be so dopey as to have his options tied and depend on a shaky keeper for the whole of the season pte
  • Score: 2

10:57am Fri 25 Jul 14

Gee Jay says...

Prediction...... CMS will score one ,if not two, at Peterborough tomorrow.
Prediction...... CMS will score one ,if not two, at Peterborough tomorrow. Gee Jay
  • Score: -1

11:06am Fri 25 Jul 14

AlanDuffy says...

tug509 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA[/p][/quote]Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season. AlanDuffy
  • Score: 5

11:20am Fri 25 Jul 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG.
Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 3

11:24am Fri 25 Jul 14

Jules boy says...

SMF20 wrote:
Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return.
Agree - that would be one of our best bets
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Experienced player required up front with similar traits to Leo... Time for GM to return.[/p][/quote]Agree - that would be one of our best bets Jules boy
  • Score: 2

11:28am Fri 25 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

According to today's papers, Chros Wood is available for £1.5 m. Surely worth an enquiry?
According to today's papers, Chros Wood is available for £1.5 m. Surely worth an enquiry? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: -4

11:30am Fri 25 Jul 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Whoops- Chris not Chros!!!
Whoops- Chris not Chros!!! Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 3

11:32am Fri 25 Jul 14

tug509 says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season.
Hi Alan ,you said it "Frustrating" the perfect word for all things pre-season ,I always reckoned the little bit between the end of one season and the start of the next ,was worse than when I quit smoking, that was ten years ago and I stick by that !. It`s in our nature as football supporters to worry if everything isn`t sorted yesterday ,there are some like yourself that can handle it better than others hmmhmm .
I think that we have become such a professional outfit that it`s expected ,that we will have new signings in place with time to spare ,not all of us of course ,but were all different ,apart from the important bit ,Up The Albion .
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA[/p][/quote]Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season.[/p][/quote]Hi Alan ,you said it "Frustrating" the perfect word for all things pre-season ,I always reckoned the little bit between the end of one season and the start of the next ,was worse than when I quit smoking, that was ten years ago and I stick by that !. It`s in our nature as football supporters to worry if everything isn`t sorted yesterday ,there are some like yourself that can handle it better than others hmmhmm . I think that we have become such a professional outfit that it`s expected ,that we will have new signings in place with time to spare ,not all of us of course ,but were all different ,apart from the important bit ,Up The Albion . tug509
  • Score: 0

11:36am Fri 25 Jul 14

Beale32 says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Whoops- Chris not Chros!!!
If we really wanted woods then surely he would have been part of the ulloa deal. We could have got him for 1m and taken 7m down payment.
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Whoops- Chris not Chros!!![/p][/quote]If we really wanted woods then surely he would have been part of the ulloa deal. We could have got him for 1m and taken 7m down payment. Beale32
  • Score: 5

11:43am Fri 25 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

tug509 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
Tug,
I agree with your sentiment. I too have little concerns burning in the back of my mind and there are all sorts of potential scenarios dancing in there somewhere, but as I'm unaware of what is actually going on - or isn't - I prefer to take a mildly patient approach and pursue a path of gentle optimism.
Whether such confidence is rewarded or I'm made to look a complete fool by what comes next, frankly, I don't know!.
I'm no different in that I'd love to have seen a few additions already through the door, but my original point was merely to try and illustrate that I don't think the current situation is unrealistic or unexpected.
Whether people agree, depends on individual levels of patience!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA[/p][/quote]Tug, I agree with your sentiment. I too have little concerns burning in the back of my mind and there are all sorts of potential scenarios dancing in there somewhere, but as I'm unaware of what is actually going on - or isn't - I prefer to take a mildly patient approach and pursue a path of gentle optimism. Whether such confidence is rewarded or I'm made to look a complete fool by what comes next, frankly, I don't know!. I'm no different in that I'd love to have seen a few additions already through the door, but my original point was merely to try and illustrate that I don't think the current situation is unrealistic or unexpected. Whether people agree, depends on individual levels of patience! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

11:55am Fri 25 Jul 14

mark5 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.
Tee, hee, very amusing.............
..........rather worryingly, I look forward to your offerings, in the absence of any real news on the Albion front!!

On a serious note, I think many are worrying too much about new signings, they will come, I am sure. Admittedly, it is a little frustrating that any new signings will not have the benefit of a pre-season, however, they are all professionals so should be able to adapt quickly if need be. I think too much criticism is being levelled at Burke etc.,Surely no one believes that they would risk the business that is Brighton & Hove Albion, by being tardy on signings etc. However, the same business rules will apply, in not paying crazy prices/wages etc as well as all the ffp nonsense too. I am confident that we will have a competitive squad in place before the window closes, so my attitude is to leave it to those "that can" and enjoy the last few weeks before the mayhem of the new season begins! UTA!
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.[/p][/quote]Tee, hee, very amusing............. ..........rather worryingly, I look forward to your offerings, in the absence of any real news on the Albion front!! On a serious note, I think many are worrying too much about new signings, they will come, I am sure. Admittedly, it is a little frustrating that any new signings will not have the benefit of a pre-season, however, they are all professionals so should be able to adapt quickly if need be. I think too much criticism is being levelled at Burke etc.,Surely no one believes that they would risk the business that is Brighton & Hove Albion, by being tardy on signings etc. However, the same business rules will apply, in not paying crazy prices/wages etc as well as all the ffp nonsense too. I am confident that we will have a competitive squad in place before the window closes, so my attitude is to leave it to those "that can" and enjoy the last few weeks before the mayhem of the new season begins! UTA! mark5
  • Score: 4

11:57am Fri 25 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
And if you read a later post I apologised for being mischievous as I was bored!!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....[/p][/quote]And if you read a later post I apologised for being mischievous as I was bored!!! Conelli98
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Fri 25 Jul 14

pte says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG.
Sounds just what we need- does he play the drums as well?
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG.[/p][/quote]Sounds just what we need- does he play the drums as well? pte
  • Score: 2

12:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

pte wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG.
Sounds just what we need- does he play the drums as well?
We know we keep banging on about it but he would skin a few defenders with pace.Let's stick in a decent transfer offer!
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: Yes the Albion need to take a really close look at Assombalonga tomorrow.Looks like the striker we need with a goal ratio of one every two games.Can also play on the wing.He would complement CMS and COG.[/p][/quote]Sounds just what we need- does he play the drums as well?[/p][/quote]We know we keep banging on about it but he would skin a few defenders with pace.Let's stick in a decent transfer offer! SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 3

12:53pm Fri 25 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

The call for experienced players is quite understandable, but it's not as if we don't have any already.
Right back, Bruno and Calde. Center backs Greer and Hughes. In midfield we have Crofts, Kemy and Stephens, out wide Kaz and Buckley and of course CMS and O'Grady up front.
Quite rightly CMS points out that we are short on experienced cover and we are short in a couple of positions. Solly, JFC and Ince all have good playing time under their belts.
The call for experienced players is quite understandable, but it's not as if we don't have any already. Right back, Bruno and Calde. Center backs Greer and Hughes. In midfield we have Crofts, Kemy and Stephens, out wide Kaz and Buckley and of course CMS and O'Grady up front. Quite rightly CMS points out that we are short on experienced cover and we are short in a couple of positions. Solly, JFC and Ince all have good playing time under their belts. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

12:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
Tug,
I agree with your sentiment. I too have little concerns burning in the back of my mind and there are all sorts of potential scenarios dancing in there somewhere, but as I'm unaware of what is actually going on - or isn't - I prefer to take a mildly patient approach and pursue a path of gentle optimism.
Whether such confidence is rewarded or I'm made to look a complete fool by what comes next, frankly, I don't know!.
I'm no different in that I'd love to have seen a few additions already through the door, but my original point was merely to try and illustrate that I don't think the current situation is unrealistic or unexpected.
Whether people agree, depends on individual levels of patience!
I`m an impatient so and so ,when I was a kid I always wanted to eat my pudding before my dinner :0)
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA[/p][/quote]Tug, I agree with your sentiment. I too have little concerns burning in the back of my mind and there are all sorts of potential scenarios dancing in there somewhere, but as I'm unaware of what is actually going on - or isn't - I prefer to take a mildly patient approach and pursue a path of gentle optimism. Whether such confidence is rewarded or I'm made to look a complete fool by what comes next, frankly, I don't know!. I'm no different in that I'd love to have seen a few additions already through the door, but my original point was merely to try and illustrate that I don't think the current situation is unrealistic or unexpected. Whether people agree, depends on individual levels of patience![/p][/quote]I`m an impatient so and so ,when I was a kid I always wanted to eat my pudding before my dinner :0) tug509
  • Score: 4

1:29pm Fri 25 Jul 14

brighton forever says...

Cap'n Pugwash wrote:
namgo49 wrote:
We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems.

I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!!
If you don't know where the money is going then you need to investigate further. As for Forest buying up players on a daily basis, that worked well for them last season didn't it? They are in 'sh1t or bust' mode right now. If they don't go up this season they could be in big trouble financially.
Forest don't have a stadium and training ground to pay for so can afford to spend. More on players
[quote][p][bold]Cap'n Pugwash[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: We have got to see some transfer action starting today , I would suggest. There is unrest all round as other teams get their squads in shape we are getting nowhere it seems. I simply cannot understand how the likes of Forest are signing players on a daily basis, they just don't seem to have the overriding hang ups we do. Best supported, highest prices, just don't get where the money is going!![/p][/quote]If you don't know where the money is going then you need to investigate further. As for Forest buying up players on a daily basis, that worked well for them last season didn't it? They are in 'sh1t or bust' mode right now. If they don't go up this season they could be in big trouble financially.[/p][/quote]Forest don't have a stadium and training ground to pay for so can afford to spend. More on players brighton forever
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
It's frustrating but we all have to keep the faith.
Things will start happening soon. Glass half full. UTA
I would feel slightly less frustrated certainly more relaxed Joel'sGrandad if the glass were as much as 'half-full'.
Having signed players since the middle of May and with 6 more probably yet to be signed the glass looks only 1/3rd full. Somebody took a big swig out of he glass when Ulloa left although the money received looks reasonable compensation.
One thought. Since we are looking for a reasonably experienced and talented replacement why don't we approach Leicester not for Woods but ne of their other strikers with an offer of say £2 million. I think that might be a reasonable offer for........... Ulloa - after all I can't think of a more appropriate replacement than the man himself !
Just trying to think outside the box ! Nice way to generate some profit - vey wishful thinking I acknowledge
Up the 1/3rd Full brigade. Signed 'Tongue firmly in Cheek'
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: It's frustrating but we all have to keep the faith. Things will start happening soon. Glass half full. UTA[/p][/quote]I would feel slightly less frustrated certainly more relaxed Joel'sGrandad if the glass were as much as 'half-full'. Having signed players since the middle of May and with 6 more probably yet to be signed the glass looks only 1/3rd full. Somebody took a big swig out of he glass when Ulloa left although the money received looks reasonable compensation. One thought. Since we are looking for a reasonably experienced and talented replacement why don't we approach Leicester not for Woods but ne of their other strikers with an offer of say £2 million. I think that might be a reasonable offer for........... Ulloa - after all I can't think of a more appropriate replacement than the man himself ! Just trying to think outside the box ! Nice way to generate some profit - vey wishful thinking I acknowledge Up the 1/3rd Full brigade. Signed 'Tongue firmly in Cheek' ballantrrae
  • Score: -3

4:23pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ballantrrae says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley.
I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right
For example Weststandupperlacost
a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....[/p][/quote]Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley. I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right For example Weststandupperlacost a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow. ballantrrae
  • Score: 2

4:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley.
I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right
For example Weststandupperlacost

a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.
Ah...weststandupperl
acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time!
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....[/p][/quote]Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley. I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right For example Weststandupperlacost a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Ah...weststandupperl acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

5:05pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Claude Back says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Whoops- Chris not Chros!!!
Doesn't matter what you call him, a donkey is still a donkey by any other name. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Whoops- Chris not Chros!!![/p][/quote]Doesn't matter what you call him, a donkey is still a donkey by any other name. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 3

5:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Claude Back says...

Conelli98 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley.
I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right
For example Weststandupperlacost


a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.
Ah...weststandupperl

acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time!
Don't you see him when you glance in the mirror? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....[/p][/quote]Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley. I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right For example Weststandupperlacost a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Ah...weststandupperl acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time![/p][/quote]Don't you see him when you glance in the mirror? ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 5

5:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Claude Back wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA
So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....
Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley.
I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right
For example Weststandupperlacost



a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.
Ah...weststandupperl


acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time!
Don't you see him when you glance in the mirror? ;-)
By Jove I think your right! SEAGULLS!!!
Dear Mr Bloom, please can The Amex sell Stella Artois raspberry cidre on Matchdays?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Morning happy people! Prediction...WE WILL GET BATTERED AT LONDON ROAD TOMORROW AND THEN THE 💡will come on in the heads of uncle Tony and Hinge and Bracket!! But by then it may be a bit late...keep the faith...UTA[/p][/quote]So says the person who told us last week Leo WASN'T going to Leicester. I wait with baited breath....[/p][/quote]Actually this prediction could come true if we put out a young side again as we did on Wednesday although hopefully SH will be able to select one or two of those more experienced players like Hughes and COG who weren't available against Crawley. I have noticed around this time of year that the occasional poster gets their prediction right For example Weststandupperlacost a (he's gone quiet I don't think) forecast that Oscar would become our Manager. The year before Alfie T posted that Kuszczak would sign for us. So lets see if Conelli98 is right tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Ah...weststandupperl acostearmy what ever happened to that fine good looking chap! Peterborough 3 Brighton1. Stockdale to sign over the weekend as will Ward. There we go...head on block time![/p][/quote]Don't you see him when you glance in the mirror? ;-)[/p][/quote]By Jove I think your right! SEAGULLS!!! Dear Mr Bloom, please can The Amex sell Stella Artois raspberry cidre on Matchdays? Conelli98
  • Score: 4

5:34pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?
Completely disagree.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?[/p][/quote]Completely disagree. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
OldGull wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!!
Up the Albion!!
Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present.
You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks.
We will have a few more signings I am sure
Interesting season ahead
Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved.
Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad.
I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case.
Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?
Hi AIs ,
yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity .

Hi Jeff ,
I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0)
UTA
Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season.
My views exactly reflect your's, AlanDuffy.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Morning no need to panic if we get Stockdale between the posts, Buy a proven striker who's played in the championship before Buy Becchio or loan Bamford from chelsea, add Clayton to the midfield, personally I can't see Ward returning so stick with Chickensen at left back, couple off loan signings, the window doesn't close to end off august, agreed we need a few players but no where near as bad as some suggest on here, we will sign players I have no doubt about that!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Boy there is a lot of negativity around at present. You would think the world had fallen in on the Albion yet the season does not start for another 2 weeks. We will have a few more signings I am sure Interesting season ahead[/p][/quote]Yep, OG, many of us have said before, that if the club had started bringing in players the minute SH arrived, the moaners would've pointed to the fact he clearly wasn't involved. Hyppia was appointed 7 weeks ago today and had to wait over three weeks before he met the players. Given medical checks and an immediate focus on fitness work, it was probably even longer before he could assess the technical merits of his squad. I much prefer a scenario in which he's part of the transfer process and takes his time to consider the right options rather than be forced to make the wrong ones fit. I trust that's the case. Yes, time is rumbling on, but in the long term (and for the impatient ones amongst us) surely it's far better to think first and then put the square peg in the square hole, rather than pick up a round one straight away and forever search for a place to put it?[/p][/quote]Hi AIs , yep you always make a good point ,but so have a lot of people on here ,that can see other teams doing what we are not . To go out and buy players like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack ,I`ll have 3 of them and 6 of those attitude is stupidity ,but it`s also foolish to sit back and think everything is going to fall in your lap and gel in time for the big day . If we have been keeping several players on the back burner ,and they are all coming then great ,I for one will take all the stick coming my way on the chin with a smile ,but sometimes it`s easy to confuse concern for the club with negativity . Hi Jeff , I would like some of the players you have named ,but in honesty I cant see us meeting most of their wage demands ,to look abroad at this stage is out of the question unless we have been working on something already . I still think Rohan behind CMS and COG would work until we can complete late signings ,but I would go all out to get Clayton ,stop fussing over Ward and just sign him ,we at least know we will get 40 odd games a season and a grafter who knows the Albion ,if we can put an offer in for a marque striker that would give us a real chance of another top 6 . Grummitt has a good idea for tomorrow ,TB and a fat cheque for Britt Asombalonga ,well he may be right you never know :0) UTA[/p][/quote]Like many others on here, I have found the close season frustrating, waiting for news of signings with nothing yet to really excite. In defense of the club, we needed to get a new manager in place, wait for him to assess the squad and for his feedback, before moving. The Leo situation has further complicated matters, as until the deal was done, we didn't know how much would be available for new players. Looking at this positively, we can now afford better players than a few weeks ago - I can't see us breaking our wage structure though, which possibly explains the delays. The next 7-10 days will tell us a lot, I'm expecting some quality permanent signings and a couple of loans to strengthen, so we can all look forward to the new season.[/p][/quote]My views exactly reflect your's, AlanDuffy. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 5

7:08pm Fri 25 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

As boring, if not annoying a subject as the FFP is, there is an aspect of it that I think we have not considered.

Over the last several months somewhere around 12M profit has come in from the sale of players, and some have suggested that most the money will be swallowed up by reducing our year on year losses, and or by cutting our debt, there is a problem with that thinking.

When we sold Bridcutt the club was in a position to cut our losses regardless of that sale, we would have been FFP compliant, but we didn't use the Bridcutt money to buy new players. The result of not spending that money, whether we like it or not, actually means that we cut our year on year losses first by taking the measures that Barber took, AND, by selling Bridcutt. If our planned cut in losses was 3M, the sale of Bridders and the lack of the reinvestment of the money gained, must mean that we cut our losses hugely.
We have now sold Ulloa for 8M, if that money is not used to bring in new players, this season, it will go against our losses, it has to as there isn't anyhwere else for it to go.

The FFP is all about cutting operational costs each year, so if we sell and don't spend, our operational costs are cut. Money gained from selling players goes to the income column and money spent on buying players goes to the outgoing column, last season we didn't spend. If I am right in my thinking, last season we might well have cut our year on year losses by some 6M instead of the planned, and required 3M. If we don't spend all the money gained from Ulloa, we will make another huge cut in our losses.

We can't spend the Bridcutt money retrospectively, the accounts for last season are closed. We now have 8M to think about, we either spend it this year, or lose it to the losses reduction come the end of the season.

Is my understanding re our loss cutting and how it relates to spending wrong?

One more point to ponder. If in some twilight world we were to break even this season, but then spend 6M on new players the following season, would that represent a 6M loss and leave us open to punishment under the FFP rules?
As boring, if not annoying a subject as the FFP is, there is an aspect of it that I think we have not considered. Over the last several months somewhere around 12M profit has come in from the sale of players, and some have suggested that most the money will be swallowed up by reducing our year on year losses, and or by cutting our debt, there is a problem with that thinking. When we sold Bridcutt the club was in a position to cut our losses regardless of that sale, we would have been FFP compliant, but we didn't use the Bridcutt money to buy new players. The result of not spending that money, whether we like it or not, actually means that we cut our year on year losses first by taking the measures that Barber took, AND, by selling Bridcutt. If our planned cut in losses was 3M, the sale of Bridders and the lack of the reinvestment of the money gained, must mean that we cut our losses hugely. We have now sold Ulloa for 8M, if that money is not used to bring in new players, this season, it will go against our losses, it has to as there isn't anyhwere else for it to go. The FFP is all about cutting operational costs each year, so if we sell and don't spend, our operational costs are cut. Money gained from selling players goes to the income column and money spent on buying players goes to the outgoing column, last season we didn't spend. If I am right in my thinking, last season we might well have cut our year on year losses by some 6M instead of the planned, and required 3M. If we don't spend all the money gained from Ulloa, we will make another huge cut in our losses. We can't spend the Bridcutt money retrospectively, the accounts for last season are closed. We now have 8M to think about, we either spend it this year, or lose it to the losses reduction come the end of the season. Is my understanding re our loss cutting and how it relates to spending wrong? One more point to ponder. If in some twilight world we were to break even this season, but then spend 6M on new players the following season, would that represent a 6M loss and leave us open to punishment under the FFP rules? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

12:55am Sat 26 Jul 14

100% Pure says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Morning, another silent day from the Amex, are the "suits" on holiday?
They are always on holiday along with the players.
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Morning, another silent day from the Amex, are the "suits" on holiday?[/p][/quote]They are always on holiday along with the players. 100% Pure
  • Score: -5

12:57am Sat 26 Jul 14

100% Pure says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.
100% correct outstanding post.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: What we need are players who aren't crocked from the moment they get here, our only signings so far are all injured, or is it substandard training and medical practices? It's ridiculous really. Jamie Cureton, he's an experienced centre forward who I think is available and would suit our budget, although I think Dagenham are interested so we'd better move quick.[/p][/quote]100% correct outstanding post. 100% Pure
  • Score: -5

12:59am Sat 26 Jul 14

100% Pure says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?
100% correct.Thank god some fans still have their own brains.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I don't think any of the £12 million raised from player sales will be spent transfer fees for new players. They are trying to rebuild the squad without spending any money. That won't work. Sorry, but this season is going to be one huge struggle to avoid relegation. With youngsters, freebies and an untried manager what other outcome can there be?[/p][/quote]100% correct.Thank god some fans still have their own brains. 100% Pure
  • Score: -3

11:16am Sat 26 Jul 14

Captain Haddock says...

Did the hospital let you play on the computer again, Freeloaders? Oh joy. My thumbs will now get sore with all the scrolling I'll have to do to bypass your dribblings on here.
Did the hospital let you play on the computer again, Freeloaders? Oh joy. My thumbs will now get sore with all the scrolling I'll have to do to bypass your dribblings on here. Captain Haddock
  • Score: 2

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