Saints fans ripe for ridicule but be warned

Solly March is sure to attract Premier League scouts to the Amex this season after breaking into the England under 21's

Solly March is sure to attract Premier League scouts to the Amex this season after breaking into the England under 21's

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

It must be tempting for Albion fans to poke fun at their Southampton counterparts at the Amex tonight.

The Saints' most prized assets have been marching out of St Mary's this summer at an alarming rate to Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and probably now Spurs.

Luke Shaw to Old Trafford, Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert and Dejan Lovren to Anfield, Calum Chambers to the Emirates, the unsettled Morgan Schneiderlin and Jay Rodriguez perhaps to be reunited with former manager Mauricio Pochettino at White Hart Lane.

Supporters in the away end this evening for the Seagulls' closing pre-season friendly before the proper stuff starts are ripe targets for ridicule.

Be warned though, Albion's hierarchy might be wrestling with the same sort of difficulties in the future.

Solly March, Jake Forster-Caskey and Christian Walton are unlikely to attract fees on quite the same scale as Shaw, Lallana and Chambers.

But rest assured, Premier League scouts will be keeping tabs on all three this season.

It comes with the territory when you develop young England internationals.

And what if Will Buckley enjoys an injury-free, influential season? Or Lewis Dunk, no longer preoccupied by a court case and matured by fatherhood, rediscovers the form that earned him an England Under 21 call-up? They would be back in contention for a Premier League move as well.

Southampton are an exceptional case, because of their exceptional youth policy. Arsenal previously poached Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as well.

The reality, however is that the Seagulls, the Saints, in fact every single club outside the top six or seven in the Premier League, are a breeding ground and talent-supplier for that elite group.

If one of them comes calling, dangling wage riches, European competition and silverware, it is nigh-on impossible to hold them off.

A deal, nine times out of ten, will eventually happen. All you can do then is stand firm until you get a fair price.

Southampton received in excess of £30 million from United for Shaw. Fine prospect though he is, he is never worth that.

The inflated premium for English players was further emphasised by Lallana's move to Liverpool for £25 million. He is very good too but worth as much as Cesc Fabregas?

Granted, Southampton's wholesale sale has left them in a bit of a mess under Pochettino's successor, Ronald Koeman.

Former defender Danny Higginbotham tweeted: "Situation at Southampton is not good. How you can lose the spine of your team and manager in two months is a worrying sign for next season.

"After huge strides over the last few years the saints could be in a relegation battle. New manager and any players will take time to gel."

The Daily Echo, sister paper of The Argus, received a record number of postings on their website from outraged supporters when news broke of the Gunners' swoop for Chambers.

It would be a similar story if Albion sold off all of their crown jewels.

The key to their chances in Sami Hyypia's first season in charge is how well they re-invest the £8 million downpayment from Leo Ulloa's move to Leicester.

The key for Southampton will be how well they use their £100 million plus windfall.

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5:05pm Thu 31 Jul 14

stonegold says...

Apples and pears. What are the realistic chances of Albion being in a position where they have the opportunity to sell half their first team for huge fees? Get real
Apples and pears. What are the realistic chances of Albion being in a position where they have the opportunity to sell half their first team for huge fees? Get real stonegold
  • Score: 11

5:08pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BHAFC M says...

Why on earth would we ridicule them when we haven't got a full team yet.

Dear oh dear!
Why on earth would we ridicule them when we haven't got a full team yet. Dear oh dear! BHAFC M
  • Score: 19

5:20pm Thu 31 Jul 14

DuncanThickett says...

I wonder if the Soton fans will be singing to their players - 'Who are ya?'

It's a crazy situation there, but they are still a club i think we should aspire to emulate (just without the fire sale). Shame i can't go, but hope we put in a good shift and get some positives.
I wonder if the Soton fans will be singing to their players - 'Who are ya?' It's a crazy situation there, but they are still a club i think we should aspire to emulate (just without the fire sale). Shame i can't go, but hope we put in a good shift and get some positives. DuncanThickett
  • Score: 10

5:21pm Thu 31 Jul 14

fratsomrover says...

The ridicule should be reserved for whoever wrote this ridiculous article.
If only we were half as successful as Southampton !!!
I think they have done brilliantly. Not long ago we were playing and beating them. Since then they've set the Prem league alight and sold off £100m worth of talent.
They have my utmost respect and I just hope we can go up and compete with them again.
The ridicule should be reserved for whoever wrote this ridiculous article. If only we were half as successful as Southampton !!! I think they have done brilliantly. Not long ago we were playing and beating them. Since then they've set the Prem league alight and sold off £100m worth of talent. They have my utmost respect and I just hope we can go up and compete with them again. fratsomrover
  • Score: 47

5:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

Oh when the Saints goooooo marching out oh when the saints goooooo marching out!

He's fat he's round he always lets you down Sammy Lee!
Oh when the Saints goooooo marching out oh when the saints goooooo marching out! He's fat he's round he always lets you down Sammy Lee! Conelli98
  • Score: -4

5:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

heshootshescores says...

That's the way of football these days...five or six clubs in the Premier League cornering all the best young talent and a couple of Spanish giants waiting to pounce once that young talent has matured.

Saints have been victims of their own success, but at least they have the money to rebuild and come again.

JFC, Solly and Ince have a long way to go before they can be talked about in the same breath as the likes of Shaw and Chambers. Heck, they haven't even established themselves as regulars in our starting XI yet.

Big season coming up for Jake, in particular. Can he make the step up from promising young talent to established Championship midfielder?
That's the way of football these days...five or six clubs in the Premier League cornering all the best young talent and a couple of Spanish giants waiting to pounce once that young talent has matured. Saints have been victims of their own success, but at least they have the money to rebuild and come again. JFC, Solly and Ince have a long way to go before they can be talked about in the same breath as the likes of Shaw and Chambers. Heck, they haven't even established themselves as regulars in our starting XI yet. Big season coming up for Jake, in particular. Can he make the step up from promising young talent to established Championship midfielder? heshootshescores
  • Score: 6

5:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .
Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together . tug509
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

tug509 wrote:
Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .
Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .[/p][/quote]Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱 Conelli98
  • Score: -10

5:39pm Thu 31 Jul 14

VegasSeagull says...

What Andy Naylor is saying actually makes a lot of sense. Move ahead a couple of seasons, Walton has made great leaps forward but we still have Stockdale, who is doing a good job. At that time we might have to choose, let Stockdale go, or make him number two, and move Walton to number one, if that were the situation would not the prem clubs be aware of Walton? A big offer would get him.
Same goes for March, a player who is already showing signs of becoming a verg good player, if he progresses over the next two seasons he won't go un-noticed, again a big offer would get him.
Ince, another who is already making his mark, two more good seasons could easily see a big offer coming in and again it would be accepted. We might even be able to throw Fenelon into the mix in a couple of years from now, and who knows about Dunk.

Will we be in the prem in two seasons time, probably not, could we resist prem money for our young gems, no chance. The elite prem clubs are like one big monster with a never satisfied appetite, they have to keep feeding, even if some of that food turns sour down the road, a bit like Zaha has.

The only way to resist the elite is to become one of them, and that will take several years and may never happen, even if we do get to the top level. Southampton will complete around 100M in sales just in this window, and they are nowhere near being among the elite. On a smaller scale, but none the less meaningful, in two years from now we could be in exactly the same boat as Southampton find themselves in now, money coming in but gems going out.
What Andy Naylor is saying actually makes a lot of sense. Move ahead a couple of seasons, Walton has made great leaps forward but we still have Stockdale, who is doing a good job. At that time we might have to choose, let Stockdale go, or make him number two, and move Walton to number one, if that were the situation would not the prem clubs be aware of Walton? A big offer would get him. Same goes for March, a player who is already showing signs of becoming a verg good player, if he progresses over the next two seasons he won't go un-noticed, again a big offer would get him. Ince, another who is already making his mark, two more good seasons could easily see a big offer coming in and again it would be accepted. We might even be able to throw Fenelon into the mix in a couple of years from now, and who knows about Dunk. Will we be in the prem in two seasons time, probably not, could we resist prem money for our young gems, no chance. The elite prem clubs are like one big monster with a never satisfied appetite, they have to keep feeding, even if some of that food turns sour down the road, a bit like Zaha has. The only way to resist the elite is to become one of them, and that will take several years and may never happen, even if we do get to the top level. Southampton will complete around 100M in sales just in this window, and they are nowhere near being among the elite. On a smaller scale, but none the less meaningful, in two years from now we could be in exactly the same boat as Southampton find themselves in now, money coming in but gems going out. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

5:41pm Thu 31 Jul 14

mikeygit says...

Agree with those who have posted--Why ridicule them? Maybe Sammy Lee--Our Sammi is better than your Sammy--but their players?? Bordering on childish.
Good lck Albion hope you put on a good show and then The Board announce a new signing after the match.
Agree with those who have posted--Why ridicule them? Maybe Sammy Lee--Our Sammi is better than your Sammy--but their players?? Bordering on childish. Good lck Albion hope you put on a good show and then The Board announce a new signing after the match. mikeygit
  • Score: 7

5:46pm Thu 31 Jul 14

tug509 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .
Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱
Obviously you didn`t grow up with the Goldstone during the 70s ,some of that "banter" hurt a lot of people m`old mucker ,and on one occasion against Saints by the old bus station ,a building site supplied a lot of "banter" .A laugh and a joke for most of us ,is seen as a reason for trouble with the few ,I don't see any reason to fuel a fire .
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .[/p][/quote]Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱[/p][/quote]Obviously you didn`t grow up with the Goldstone during the 70s ,some of that "banter" hurt a lot of people m`old mucker ,and on one occasion against Saints by the old bus station ,a building site supplied a lot of "banter" .A laugh and a joke for most of us ,is seen as a reason for trouble with the few ,I don't see any reason to fuel a fire . tug509
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Conelli98 says...

tug509 wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .
Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱
Obviously you didn`t grow up with the Goldstone during the 70s ,some of that "banter" hurt a lot of people m`old mucker ,and on one occasion against Saints by the old bus station ,a building site supplied a lot of "banter" .A laugh and a joke for most of us ,is seen as a reason for trouble with the few ,I don't see any reason to fuel a fire .
54years blue and white and remember it all!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .[/p][/quote]Tug m'old mucker...it's called Banter!!! 😱[/p][/quote]Obviously you didn`t grow up with the Goldstone during the 70s ,some of that "banter" hurt a lot of people m`old mucker ,and on one occasion against Saints by the old bus station ,a building site supplied a lot of "banter" .A laugh and a joke for most of us ,is seen as a reason for trouble with the few ,I don't see any reason to fuel a fire .[/p][/quote]54years blue and white and remember it all! Conelli98
  • Score: 0

6:06pm Thu 31 Jul 14

WestStander17 says...

Strange article. The only ridicule we can comfortably aim at them is having an Assistant Manager with poor morales (or indecisive at best) and for living in a horrible city. I was down there for the 1st day of the Test Match. The Cricket ground is nice but the City is grim!

On the playing side, they have funds to spend and as long as they spend them wisely, they will be fine. Javier Hernandez wouldn't be a bad start!
Strange article. The only ridicule we can comfortably aim at them is having an Assistant Manager with poor morales (or indecisive at best) and for living in a horrible city. I was down there for the 1st day of the Test Match. The Cricket ground is nice but the City is grim! On the playing side, they have funds to spend and as long as they spend them wisely, they will be fine. Javier Hernandez wouldn't be a bad start! WestStander17
  • Score: -7

6:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Albion In Staffs says...

What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably.
Irrelevant nonsense.
What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably. Irrelevant nonsense. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

6:33pm Thu 31 Jul 14

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably.
Irrelevant nonsense.
Not really , it's about the top clubs paying for a club who have spent real money building a academy which is the best in the country,
They may have collect 100 m for its players, but it has two or three in the side who are qulaity, and a 16 year old winger coming through who arsenal want.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably. Irrelevant nonsense.[/p][/quote]Not really , it's about the top clubs paying for a club who have spent real money building a academy which is the best in the country, They may have collect 100 m for its players, but it has two or three in the side who are qulaity, and a 16 year old winger coming through who arsenal want. mark by the sea
  • Score: 11

6:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

BHAFC M wrote:
Why on earth would we ridicule them when we haven't got a full team yet.

Dear oh dear!
I believe most of our true fans realize that ridiculing anyone only comes straight back to you. I noticed the moronic chants about 'standing up if you hate..............' were beginning to lessen thankfully last season. Part of the managers job is to educate supporters as to how he wants to play and how he would like the supporters to behave. I think Sami will be a great role model!
[quote][p][bold]BHAFC M[/bold] wrote: Why on earth would we ridicule them when we haven't got a full team yet. Dear oh dear![/p][/quote]I believe most of our true fans realize that ridiculing anyone only comes straight back to you. I noticed the moronic chants about 'standing up if you hate..............' were beginning to lessen thankfully last season. Part of the managers job is to educate supporters as to how he wants to play and how he would like the supporters to behave. I think Sami will be a great role model! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 2

6:59pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live.
WHY NOT?????
If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be.
For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin.
Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live. WHY NOT????? If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be. For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin. Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live.
WHY NOT?????
If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be.
For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin.
Buy a ticket ,cheapskate.

Or else watch out for Vegas pathetic comments at no extra charge
[quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live. WHY NOT????? If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be. For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin.[/p][/quote]Buy a ticket ,cheapskate. Or else watch out for Vegas pathetic comments at no extra charge ringtone
  • Score: 0

7:39pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ringtone says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably.
Irrelevant nonsense.
You complete idiot.

This is the best Argus football article in months, if not years.

Every single worrd is true, but probably too near the truth for you.

Really just shows what a waste of time it is following a club like the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably. Irrelevant nonsense.[/p][/quote]You complete idiot. This is the best Argus football article in months, if not years. Every single worrd is true, but probably too near the truth for you. Really just shows what a waste of time it is following a club like the Albion. ringtone
  • Score: -3

7:44pm Thu 31 Jul 14

ringtone says...

tug509 wrote:
Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .
Dont delude yourself mate.

100 people at most read it and at least 95 never go to the games.

No reason to cancel police leave.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Wow nothing like stirring the pot is there ,what a stupid thing to say before putting two sets of fans together .[/p][/quote]Dont delude yourself mate. 100 people at most read it and at least 95 never go to the games. No reason to cancel police leave. ringtone
  • Score: -3

7:50pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Yes I fear if the academy is a success then all we have done is create a monster out of control. Saints had a few good years and now the very academy that fed them now threatens to destroy them. The money will go into plugging the debt, as will ours, the Ulloa money has already disappeared, all we've spent is a measly 1.5 million on an average goalkeeper and striker. Not good
Yes I fear if the academy is a success then all we have done is create a monster out of control. Saints had a few good years and now the very academy that fed them now threatens to destroy them. The money will go into plugging the debt, as will ours, the Ulloa money has already disappeared, all we've spent is a measly 1.5 million on an average goalkeeper and striker. Not good Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -3

8:23pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

ringtone wrote:
Rhodes Seagull wrote:
Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live.
WHY NOT?????
If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be.
For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin.
Buy a ticket ,cheapskate.

Or else watch out for Vegas pathetic comments at no extra charge
No problem for me to buy many tickets as long as you pay my air fare home to Gatwick return!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhodes Seagull[/bold] wrote: Brighton & Hove Albion’s pre-season friendly against Southampton at the American Express Community Stadium tonight, 7:45pm kick-off, will not be streamed live. WHY NOT????? If it was Liverpool V Everton it would be. For gods sake it's only a friendly what's wrong with this and other clubs that cannot give back something to those who have supported through thick and thin.[/p][/quote]Buy a ticket ,cheapskate. Or else watch out for Vegas pathetic comments at no extra charge[/p][/quote]No problem for me to buy many tickets as long as you pay my air fare home to Gatwick return!!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: -1

6:09am Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably.
Irrelevant nonsense.
Not really , it's about the top clubs paying for a club who have spent real money building a academy which is the best in the country,
They may have collect 100 m for its players, but it has two or three in the side who are qulaity, and a 16 year old winger coming through who arsenal want.
I get all that and agree about the Academy set ups, but it was the tone adopted which was weird and nonsensical. A warning to the fans not to take the P because we might be in the same boat, but then again we won't because our youngsters aren't quite as good... yet.
The pious preaching to the fans from some self-appointed 'sage' is pompous claptrap.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: What a weird story. If this is The Argus's attempt at a deep, meaningful opinion piece, it's failed miserably. Irrelevant nonsense.[/p][/quote]Not really , it's about the top clubs paying for a club who have spent real money building a academy which is the best in the country, They may have collect 100 m for its players, but it has two or three in the side who are qulaity, and a 16 year old winger coming through who arsenal want.[/p][/quote]I get all that and agree about the Academy set ups, but it was the tone adopted which was weird and nonsensical. A warning to the fans not to take the P because we might be in the same boat, but then again we won't because our youngsters aren't quite as good... yet. The pious preaching to the fans from some self-appointed 'sage' is pompous claptrap. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

7:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

BHAFC M says...

After last nights Saints performance, this article seems even more ridiculous.
After last nights Saints performance, this article seems even more ridiculous. BHAFC M
  • Score: 3

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