Hyypia expected more fans for Albion friendly

Fans at the Amex last night

Fans at the Amex last night

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Albion boss Sami Hyypia expected a bigger turnout for last night's friendly defeat by Southampton at the Amex.

A crowd of 7,296, including 870 Saints supporters, saw the Seagulls lose 3-1 in Hyypia's first home game in charge and their only home pre-season friendly at the stadium.

Hyypia said: "I was expecting there would be a few more people to come to see the game but it's a great stadium and I can't wait when it's full of people.

"We will get more out of the players as well when the atmosphere is better."

Hyypia would have preferred a game tomorrow to prepare for Sheffield Wednesday's opening Championship visit on August 9 but the Southampton match was played last night to avoid a clash with the Pride festival.

Albion had two home friendlies in quick succession last year. A Saturday crowd of 12,039 watched Oscar Garcia's side against Villarreal and 10,622 attended the following Tuesday night against Norwich, four days prior to the Championship opener at Leeds.

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1:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

AlastairWatts says...

There's a surprise: Albion sell their top striker and a bunch of other players,then put out what can only be described as an experimental team and wonder why we don't go? We don't seem to have heard much from him: where are the confident messages of anticipated success this coming season? Am I missing the obvious, perhaps?
There's a surprise: Albion sell their top striker and a bunch of other players,then put out what can only be described as an experimental team and wonder why we don't go? We don't seem to have heard much from him: where are the confident messages of anticipated success this coming season? Am I missing the obvious, perhaps? AlastairWatts
  • Score: 97

1:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

TheWerewolf says...

Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out

Are we ready - not yet
Do we need more people in - yes a couple
should we be concerned - Not at the moment
can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so

If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division

UTA
Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out Are we ready - not yet Do we need more people in - yes a couple should we be concerned - Not at the moment can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division UTA TheWerewolf
  • Score: 26

1:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for.
Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong!
Hyypia will be gone by Xmas.
What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for. Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong! Hyypia will be gone by Xmas. sussexram40
  • Score: -41

1:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence.
I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence. Albion fan in London
  • Score: 74

1:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

brightonup says...

TheWerewolf wrote:
Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out

Are we ready - not yet
Do we need more people in - yes a couple
should we be concerned - Not at the moment
can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so

If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division

UTA
Intelligent post.
Your balanced assessment would have been most helpful yesterday when there was mayhem, trolling and extreme negativity.
[quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out Are we ready - not yet Do we need more people in - yes a couple should we be concerned - Not at the moment can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division UTA[/p][/quote]Intelligent post. Your balanced assessment would have been most helpful yesterday when there was mayhem, trolling and extreme negativity. brightonup
  • Score: 8

1:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

I think that Sami should turn to the board if he wants to know why the crowds are down.
I sincerely hope that he gets his wishes of a full stadium... Again I believe that the board will have a big say in if this happens or not.

I mentioned this on another thread... I think we desperately need not only a left back and top striker but equally, a top assistant manager.
Another 2 or 3 needed but not as much a priority.

Uta
I think that Sami should turn to the board if he wants to know why the crowds are down. I sincerely hope that he gets his wishes of a full stadium... Again I believe that the board will have a big say in if this happens or not. I mentioned this on another thread... I think we desperately need not only a left back and top striker but equally, a top assistant manager. Another 2 or 3 needed but not as much a priority. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 27

1:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

stonegold says...

Naïve comment Mr Hoopla - reality check called for.
Naïve comment Mr Hoopla - reality check called for. stonegold
  • Score: -1

1:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

brightonup says...

...and bad news always brings Sussexscum40 crawling back
...and bad news always brings Sussexscum40 crawling back brightonup
  • Score: -2

1:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ahamay says...

If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination.
The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips.
With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind.
If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination. The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips. With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind. Ahamay
  • Score: 9

1:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

bhaforever says...

And we the fans expected more players recruited
And we the fans expected more players recruited bhaforever
  • Score: 42

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Uckfield Seagull says...

I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried.
I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out.

Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN
I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried. I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out. Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN Uckfield Seagull
  • Score: 72

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

SMF20 wrote:
I think that Sami should turn to the board if he wants to know why the crowds are down.
I sincerely hope that he gets his wishes of a full stadium... Again I believe that the board will have a big say in if this happens or not.

I mentioned this on another thread... I think we desperately need not only a left back and top striker but equally, a top assistant manager.
Another 2 or 3 needed but not as much a priority.

Uta
Correct. Apart from the die-hards who'd turn up just to watch the grass grow (and it's interesting that the crowd was Withdean-sized) the rest of need to be enthused. It's not cheap watching football, and the Albion aren't exactly going out of their way to encourage people to turn up.

Good job the vast majority of te seats have already been sold to STHs, so he should see a full(ish) stadium shortly. After that it's down to him!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I think that Sami should turn to the board if he wants to know why the crowds are down. I sincerely hope that he gets his wishes of a full stadium... Again I believe that the board will have a big say in if this happens or not. I mentioned this on another thread... I think we desperately need not only a left back and top striker but equally, a top assistant manager. Another 2 or 3 needed but not as much a priority. Uta[/p][/quote]Correct. Apart from the die-hards who'd turn up just to watch the grass grow (and it's interesting that the crowd was Withdean-sized) the rest of need to be enthused. It's not cheap watching football, and the Albion aren't exactly going out of their way to encourage people to turn up. Good job the vast majority of te seats have already been sold to STHs, so he should see a full(ish) stadium shortly. After that it's down to him! Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
  • Score: 15

2:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

...I've noted your comment Sami...now note mine...I was expecting a better performance. a cold beer not a warm one, and staff that know what there doing! Happy days👹
...I've noted your comment Sami...now note mine...I was expecting a better performance. a cold beer not a warm one, and staff that know what there doing! Happy days👹 Conelli98
  • Score: 41

2:11pm Fri 1 Aug 14

9 of us says...

Ahamay wrote:
If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination.
The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips.
With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind.
I would of thought that Sami need simply ask the ticket office if he wants to know ahead of every game the likely attendance.
I don't go to friendlies, never have done in over 30 years for the reasons quoted by Ahamay, always has vexed me.
I do go to every home game and several away games and that to me is where it counts and more importantly is what I enjoy.
True fans do not pick and choose whether to go or not, they simply go.
Go if you want to but do not expect others to share your fervour.
Roll on nex Saturday and UTA!
[quote][p][bold]Ahamay[/bold] wrote: If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination. The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips. With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind.[/p][/quote]I would of thought that Sami need simply ask the ticket office if he wants to know ahead of every game the likely attendance. I don't go to friendlies, never have done in over 30 years for the reasons quoted by Ahamay, always has vexed me. I do go to every home game and several away games and that to me is where it counts and more importantly is what I enjoy. True fans do not pick and choose whether to go or not, they simply go. Go if you want to but do not expect others to share your fervour. Roll on nex Saturday and UTA! 9 of us
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

amexarena says...

All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ! amexarena
  • Score: 22

2:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

seagull52 says...

I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey.
I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade.
Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?
I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey. I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade. Maybe the travel put people off, not the team? seagull52
  • Score: 14

2:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

Can't believe we're seriously contemplating starting the season with this current squad.

I agree with a lot of the posts above, particularly the first one.

The impression the suits are giving right now is that they have not prepared properly for the new campaign and that the departure of Ulloa has thrown their plans into disarray...that is if they had a plan in the first place.

Pre-season friendlies are designed to get the squad fit and integrate new players into the team and a system of play.

Considering we're at least four players short of having even a half-decent team, the entire pre-season has been a complete waste of time.

Whatever Burke and Barber do between now and Saturday week, it's going to be a case of too little too late.

Funny how the club expects the fans to part with their money for season tickets months in advance yet they themselves think it's OK to leave things until the last minute.

Right now, they don't deserve the fantastic support they get...let last night's attendance be a warning.
Can't believe we're seriously contemplating starting the season with this current squad. I agree with a lot of the posts above, particularly the first one. The impression the suits are giving right now is that they have not prepared properly for the new campaign and that the departure of Ulloa has thrown their plans into disarray...that is if they had a plan in the first place. Pre-season friendlies are designed to get the squad fit and integrate new players into the team and a system of play. Considering we're at least four players short of having even a half-decent team, the entire pre-season has been a complete waste of time. Whatever Burke and Barber do between now and Saturday week, it's going to be a case of too little too late. Funny how the club expects the fans to part with their money for season tickets months in advance yet they themselves think it's OK to leave things until the last minute. Right now, they don't deserve the fantastic support they get...let last night's attendance be a warning. heshootshescores
  • Score: 54

2:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried.
I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out.

Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN
Great post ,but unfortunately you have made the big mistake of being realistic and accurate ,only a ridiculously fantasist outlook is excepted this season .
It amazes me , I am normally optimistic to everything Albion ,but if we don't act now we are in trouble ,the die hards who think it will all come out right ,are fooling themselves ,you have to build a team for the league you are in ,or the league you want to be in ,what the suits have given us so far is a team for the league we don't want to be in .
By rights we should have a tidy bit of money for this seasons signings ,and we may spend 5-6-7 or even 8 or 9 million in the coming weeks ,but given how little we have spent over the last year or more I doubt it . It`s very easy for some on here to see a negative post ,dismiss it and give a thumbs down ,it takes a lot for true Albion fans to admit we just aren`t good enough at the present time ,nor shall we be ,unless the suits do exactly as they are told by the manager ,open the cheque book and pay decent players decent money ,or is decent money only paid to the pen pushers ?.
The facts are there for all to see ,stadium ,infrastructure ,training ground ,attendances ,fingers crossed ,decent manager ,but at the moment no new signings to replace the 5 or 6 good players we have sold . I want to be wrong ,and we sign 3 or 4 mega names this week ,anyone want a bet ?. As always UTA
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried. I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out. Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN[/p][/quote]Great post ,but unfortunately you have made the big mistake of being realistic and accurate ,only a ridiculously fantasist outlook is excepted this season . It amazes me , I am normally optimistic to everything Albion ,but if we don't act now we are in trouble ,the die hards who think it will all come out right ,are fooling themselves ,you have to build a team for the league you are in ,or the league you want to be in ,what the suits have given us so far is a team for the league we don't want to be in . By rights we should have a tidy bit of money for this seasons signings ,and we may spend 5-6-7 or even 8 or 9 million in the coming weeks ,but given how little we have spent over the last year or more I doubt it . It`s very easy for some on here to see a negative post ,dismiss it and give a thumbs down ,it takes a lot for true Albion fans to admit we just aren`t good enough at the present time ,nor shall we be ,unless the suits do exactly as they are told by the manager ,open the cheque book and pay decent players decent money ,or is decent money only paid to the pen pushers ?. The facts are there for all to see ,stadium ,infrastructure ,training ground ,attendances ,fingers crossed ,decent manager ,but at the moment no new signings to replace the 5 or 6 good players we have sold . I want to be wrong ,and we sign 3 or 4 mega names this week ,anyone want a bet ?. As always UTA tug509
  • Score: 26

2:43pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

TheWerewolf wrote:
Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out

Are we ready - not yet
Do we need more people in - yes a couple
should we be concerned - Not at the moment
can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so

If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division

UTA
Stockton is near Middlesbrough and we do not want to go there and they can let us go it alone in trying to recruit Mr.Clayton if he is a target of Sami's?
(Werewolf- you mean Stockdale).
[quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out Are we ready - not yet Do we need more people in - yes a couple should we be concerned - Not at the moment can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division UTA[/p][/quote]Stockton is near Middlesbrough and we do not want to go there and they can let us go it alone in trying to recruit Mr.Clayton if he is a target of Sami's? (Werewolf- you mean Stockdale). SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 0

2:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

P.S. Tad disappointed in Sami's comment re attendance last night -thought it was an excellent turn out.
P.S. Tad disappointed in Sami's comment re attendance last night -thought it was an excellent turn out. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 7

2:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

seagull52 wrote:
I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey.
I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade.
Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?
If the travel did put them off...THEY WERE THE LUCKY ONES!!!😆
[quote][p][bold]seagull52[/bold] wrote: I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey. I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade. Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?[/p][/quote]If the travel did put them off...THEY WERE THE LUCKY ONES!!!😆 Conelli98
  • Score: 2

2:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

The difference between numbers at the two home friendlies last year and this one must be quite worrying for the club, at about 30% down. But surely they understand their particular market, and the principals of cause and effect - in which case the drop can hardly have been a total surprise.

The big reduction suggests quite a few folk have been left underwhelmed by the low key preparation this year and they voted with their feet. A timely reminder, perhaps...
The difference between numbers at the two home friendlies last year and this one must be quite worrying for the club, at about 30% down. But surely they understand their particular market, and the principals of cause and effect - in which case the drop can hardly have been a total surprise. The big reduction suggests quite a few folk have been left underwhelmed by the low key preparation this year and they voted with their feet. A timely reminder, perhaps... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 29

3:01pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Good morning TUG, and one and all.

On a different thread this morning I posted a couple of figures that relate to, 'quality,' signings and their attendant costs.
Shooting a little in the dark here but, would we agree that a quaity signing is likely to cost 2M in transfer fees? If that is about right I guess we would agree that a figure of 10K a week as wages is also about right.
These figures put a, 'quality,' player on a three year contract, in the costs bracket of 3.5M each, that's 14M for four players.

Can we rerplace Ulloa at a total cost of 3.5M, probably not, can we replace others for less, probably yes, but the average numbers could still be the same. Will Brighton spend 14M this season on four new players, very unlikely. Even if we add up the wages that we have saved from those that have gone recently, the figure is still very high.
I think that we would have to spend all the Ulloa money and what ever the budget was for this season, to even come close.

Loan deals are a must, and loan deals take longer than purchases to put together.
Good morning TUG, and one and all. On a different thread this morning I posted a couple of figures that relate to, 'quality,' signings and their attendant costs. Shooting a little in the dark here but, would we agree that a quaity signing is likely to cost 2M in transfer fees? If that is about right I guess we would agree that a figure of 10K a week as wages is also about right. These figures put a, 'quality,' player on a three year contract, in the costs bracket of 3.5M each, that's 14M for four players. Can we rerplace Ulloa at a total cost of 3.5M, probably not, can we replace others for less, probably yes, but the average numbers could still be the same. Will Brighton spend 14M this season on four new players, very unlikely. Even if we add up the wages that we have saved from those that have gone recently, the figure is still very high. I think that we would have to spend all the Ulloa money and what ever the budget was for this season, to even come close. Loan deals are a must, and loan deals take longer than purchases to put together. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

3:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Chi Gull says...

Ulloa, Bridcutt, TK, Ward, Lopez, Orlandi, Upson, El Abd have left from the squad that started last season. (I am not counting Hoskins who was never available anyway)

Stephens, O'Grady, Hughes, Stockdale are players that have come in and might command a regular 1st team place.

In my view we only need a couple of high profile signings to have a decent squad, with maybe an additional two for cover elsewhere. Throw in a season long loan from a PL club and we might have a team capable of challenging for a top 6 finish.

The problem is we seem to have lost momentum and some fans are starting to worry that the club isn't going to deliver what's needed. On the other hand, there were quite a few worrying at the start of last season and many saying it was a transitional year, and we still finished 6th!! So, I will reserve judgement until the end of August when the transfer window closes and we have a few 'real' games under our belts. As for last night's crowd - hardly surprising in my view.
Ulloa, Bridcutt, TK, Ward, Lopez, Orlandi, Upson, El Abd have left from the squad that started last season. (I am not counting Hoskins who was never available anyway) Stephens, O'Grady, Hughes, Stockdale are players that have come in and might command a regular 1st team place. In my view we only need a couple of high profile signings to have a decent squad, with maybe an additional two for cover elsewhere. Throw in a season long loan from a PL club and we might have a team capable of challenging for a top 6 finish. The problem is we seem to have lost momentum and some fans are starting to worry that the club isn't going to deliver what's needed. On the other hand, there were quite a few worrying at the start of last season and many saying it was a transitional year, and we still finished 6th!! So, I will reserve judgement until the end of August when the transfer window closes and we have a few 'real' games under our belts. As for last night's crowd - hardly surprising in my view. Chi Gull
  • Score: 15

3:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Cory and Trevor says...

It's pretty obvious by now that, as a club in the transfer market, we are tight. I reckon that cos Bloomy's done a packet on infrastructure (stadium and training complex), which is a tremendous legacy for the club's future prospects. However, it has come at great cost to him in the short-term, and he needs to pull in the reigns. (Understandable when you think about it.)

I say this because i expected more signings too, especially after Leo went for so much. It's not DB's fault that we've not secured any signings. It's because our playing budget is low. We only want bargains and are banking on producing more JFC's and SM's through the system and doing a Soton in a few years time when we've got a first team half full of grads.

Am starting to think we will struggle to compete at the top end this year as things stand.
It's pretty obvious by now that, as a club in the transfer market, we are tight. I reckon that cos Bloomy's done a packet on infrastructure (stadium and training complex), which is a tremendous legacy for the club's future prospects. However, it has come at great cost to him in the short-term, and he needs to pull in the reigns. (Understandable when you think about it.) I say this because i expected more signings too, especially after Leo went for so much. It's not DB's fault that we've not secured any signings. It's because our playing budget is low. We only want bargains and are banking on producing more JFC's and SM's through the system and doing a Soton in a few years time when we've got a first team half full of grads. Am starting to think we will struggle to compete at the top end this year as things stand. Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 21

3:16pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Good morning TUG, and one and all.

On a different thread this morning I posted a couple of figures that relate to, 'quality,' signings and their attendant costs.
Shooting a little in the dark here but, would we agree that a quaity signing is likely to cost 2M in transfer fees? If that is about right I guess we would agree that a figure of 10K a week as wages is also about right.
These figures put a, 'quality,' player on a three year contract, in the costs bracket of 3.5M each, that's 14M for four players.

Can we rerplace Ulloa at a total cost of 3.5M, probably not, can we replace others for less, probably yes, but the average numbers could still be the same. Will Brighton spend 14M this season on four new players, very unlikely. Even if we add up the wages that we have saved from those that have gone recently, the figure is still very high.
I think that we would have to spend all the Ulloa money and what ever the budget was for this season, to even come close.

Loan deals are a must, and loan deals take longer than purchases to put together.
Spoken like a true accountant.

I would ban all loans, especially loans involving teams in the same division.

It spoils the integrity of the league.

Are you familiar with this term, Vegas?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Good morning TUG, and one and all. On a different thread this morning I posted a couple of figures that relate to, 'quality,' signings and their attendant costs. Shooting a little in the dark here but, would we agree that a quaity signing is likely to cost 2M in transfer fees? If that is about right I guess we would agree that a figure of 10K a week as wages is also about right. These figures put a, 'quality,' player on a three year contract, in the costs bracket of 3.5M each, that's 14M for four players. Can we rerplace Ulloa at a total cost of 3.5M, probably not, can we replace others for less, probably yes, but the average numbers could still be the same. Will Brighton spend 14M this season on four new players, very unlikely. Even if we add up the wages that we have saved from those that have gone recently, the figure is still very high. I think that we would have to spend all the Ulloa money and what ever the budget was for this season, to even come close. Loan deals are a must, and loan deals take longer than purchases to put together.[/p][/quote]Spoken like a true accountant. I would ban all loans, especially loans involving teams in the same division. It spoils the integrity of the league. Are you familiar with this term, Vegas? ringtone
  • Score: 1

3:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Good morning Vegas ,
last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA
Good morning Vegas , last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA tug509
  • Score: 17

3:34pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Connor Wickham hasn't signed a new contract at Sunderland yet. Time for the Burke brigade to swing into action and use the Ulloa cash and give Gus a poke in the eye while we're at it.
Connor Wickham hasn't signed a new contract at Sunderland yet. Time for the Burke brigade to swing into action and use the Ulloa cash and give Gus a poke in the eye while we're at it. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -6

3:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Neville says...

Lots of comments re the crowd last night and was probably a bit on the low side but only to be expected and I expect a crowd of 24000 ish next Saturday for the first home game. Lots of families still on holiday and prices starting to affect many.
I see food and drink prices increased considerably suddenly and no prior warning from PB about that.
I have written various posts most about the reality of the current situation,which invariably gains loads of thumbs down from totally blinkered participants.
The last three seasons in terms of player recruitment have been a shambles and the board need to take responsibility for this and the general lack of any communications of meaningful substance.
Fans need snippets of information to feed on and there has been little coming out from the club,the only time we here is when there is something to sell.
Retrospective dealings in the transfer market have left us woefully short and the player focus has been allowed to falter in favour of commerce and FFP and to have nearly three seasons of playing catch up or not as the case may be is poor.
The situation with players leaving does not just happen and there is normally several weeks prior to enable a replacement, not once has this happened and that is mismanagement.Last years budget was not used,Bridcutt,Barmes
,Barker,El Abd all gone and only Stephens purchased, add the monies from Ulloa and the salaries of players left and that’s a fairly large chunk of finance.The board are playing a very dangerous game, in my opinion and have totally left the playing side under strength and regardless of who we might sign it will take a few weeks to gel a new team or formation.Season ticket sales are down,whether people like it or not and the majority of concerns raised are from this group,and if there continues to be little meaningful investment then renewals in March will decrease as will the crowds. For the last two seasons we have had the largest attendances in the Championship,I am sure that won’t be the case this season.
I have been a fan for a long time and have to say this latest fiasco underwhelms me and I trust TB to eventually get matters sorted and perhaps a change in the hierarchy is needed in certain areas.
Lots of comments re the crowd last night and was probably a bit on the low side but only to be expected and I expect a crowd of 24000 ish next Saturday for the first home game. Lots of families still on holiday and prices starting to affect many. I see food and drink prices increased considerably suddenly and no prior warning from PB about that. I have written various posts most about the reality of the current situation,which invariably gains loads of thumbs down from totally blinkered participants. The last three seasons in terms of player recruitment have been a shambles and the board need to take responsibility for this and the general lack of any communications of meaningful substance. Fans need snippets of information to feed on and there has been little coming out from the club,the only time we here is when there is something to sell. Retrospective dealings in the transfer market have left us woefully short and the player focus has been allowed to falter in favour of commerce and FFP and to have nearly three seasons of playing catch up or not as the case may be is poor. The situation with players leaving does not just happen and there is normally several weeks prior to enable a replacement, not once has this happened and that is mismanagement.Last years budget was not used,Bridcutt,Barmes ,Barker,El Abd all gone and only Stephens purchased, add the monies from Ulloa and the salaries of players left and that’s a fairly large chunk of finance.The board are playing a very dangerous game, in my opinion and have totally left the playing side under strength and regardless of who we might sign it will take a few weeks to gel a new team or formation.Season ticket sales are down,whether people like it or not and the majority of concerns raised are from this group,and if there continues to be little meaningful investment then renewals in March will decrease as will the crowds. For the last two seasons we have had the largest attendances in the Championship,I am sure that won’t be the case this season. I have been a fan for a long time and have to say this latest fiasco underwhelms me and I trust TB to eventually get matters sorted and perhaps a change in the hierarchy is needed in certain areas. Neville
  • Score: 4

3:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
Good morning Vegas ,
last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA
Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.'
Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher?
It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple.
The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid.

We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Good morning Vegas , last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA[/p][/quote]Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.' Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher? It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple. The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid. We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 12

3:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

jarmonesque says...

Cory and Trevor wrote:
It's pretty obvious by now that, as a club in the transfer market, we are tight. I reckon that cos Bloomy's done a packet on infrastructure (stadium and training complex), which is a tremendous legacy for the club's future prospects. However, it has come at great cost to him in the short-term, and he needs to pull in the reigns. (Understandable when you think about it.)

I say this because i expected more signings too, especially after Leo went for so much. It's not DB's fault that we've not secured any signings. It's because our playing budget is low. We only want bargains and are banking on producing more JFC's and SM's through the system and doing a Soton in a few years time when we've got a first team half full of grads.

Am starting to think we will struggle to compete at the top end this year as things stand.
Bang on
[quote][p][bold]Cory and Trevor[/bold] wrote: It's pretty obvious by now that, as a club in the transfer market, we are tight. I reckon that cos Bloomy's done a packet on infrastructure (stadium and training complex), which is a tremendous legacy for the club's future prospects. However, it has come at great cost to him in the short-term, and he needs to pull in the reigns. (Understandable when you think about it.) I say this because i expected more signings too, especially after Leo went for so much. It's not DB's fault that we've not secured any signings. It's because our playing budget is low. We only want bargains and are banking on producing more JFC's and SM's through the system and doing a Soton in a few years time when we've got a first team half full of grads. Am starting to think we will struggle to compete at the top end this year as things stand.[/p][/quote]Bang on jarmonesque
  • Score: 11

3:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Good morning Vegas ,
last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA
Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.'
Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher?
It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple.
The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid.

We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents.
God knows why I put 10,000 in the last line of my comment, I meant the number to be higher.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Good morning Vegas , last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA[/p][/quote]Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.' Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher? It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple. The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid. We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents.[/p][/quote]God knows why I put 10,000 in the last line of my comment, I meant the number to be higher. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 8

4:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

TheWerewolf says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
TheWerewolf wrote:
Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out

Are we ready - not yet
Do we need more people in - yes a couple
should we be concerned - Not at the moment
can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so

If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division

UTA
Stockton is near Middlesbrough and we do not want to go there and they can let us go it alone in trying to recruit Mr.Clayton if he is a target of Sami's?
(Werewolf- you mean Stockdale).
typo .....
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheWerewolf[/bold] wrote: Agree it was very quiet last night at Amex. Wasn't all doom and gloom as many are representing. On the positives, Stockton looked very good although a tad rusty, Ince was solid against very strong Davis, LuaLua looked free and dangerous when he came on,O'Grady looked a presence, Bruno had some good touches and dare i say Kemy had some too! We looked like we were still coming to terms with new pressing formation, and to try that against quality prem opposition was always a big ask. Much as I love Calde i don't think he can fly up and down the wing for 90mins week in week out.....interesting to see how that works out Are we ready - not yet Do we need more people in - yes a couple should we be concerned - Not at the moment can we be top 6 - with another goal scorer and left back i think so If the formation gels quickly then i think we can be a force in this division UTA[/p][/quote]Stockton is near Middlesbrough and we do not want to go there and they can let us go it alone in trying to recruit Mr.Clayton if he is a target of Sami's? (Werewolf- you mean Stockdale).[/p][/quote]typo ..... TheWerewolf
  • Score: -2

4:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Vince says...

Uckfield Seagull wrote:
I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried.
I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out.

Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN
I agree with most of what you say.

I would also add that we should have already recruited all the players we needed BEFORE we sold Ulloa, because now everyone will push their asking prices right up - e.g. the Huddersfield Town bearded midfielder, Clayton. Brentford invested peanuts in a couple of star strikers in the making Matt Hobden from Rochdale (who has great skill and vision and scored 19 goals last season) and Gray 30 goals for Luton.
I can't see us finding a class striker at this late stage without having to pay well over the odds - and as we won't do that - it will be stalemate or another mediocre journeyman.

Word gets around that we are a tight club - and when they see the likes of Ulloa and Bridcutt leaving, any players worth their salt will decide against joining. The suits will hardly "sell" the club to an aspiring star - as they lack the charisma of an Ian Holloway or Gus Poyet.

I for one think that we have "missed the boat" for another season and, although we still possess some talent in the squad, the 3 areas of concern still relate to a marked lack of pace at the back, a creative midfield player and a quality striker.

These positions were highlighted 3 years ago and STILL we are saying the same things and making the same old excuses - while other clubs have been busy snapping up any talent which becomes available without the endless dithering and protracted negotiations which we seem to find necessary under the suits !
PERHAPS A CASE OF TOO MANY SUITS SPOIL THE BROTH?!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Uckfield Seagull[/bold] wrote: I have been a firm supporter of the board for numerous years now, they have done a fantastic job in making sure that BHA will be here for many years with facilties that are second to none and a financial structure which is reassuring for any fan, but for the first time in many years I am looking forward to the season in hope rather than expectation, ever since Gus Poyet left our transfer policy has been pathetic, the club are in a stronger position now than we were 2 years ago, but our squad is getting thinner and I am worried. I believe we have a good manager in Hyypia but already I can sense the reasons behind Gus and Oscars departure is already in Hyypia's mind, just what on earth is going on, all we are hearing is that we have targets in mind and we are working very hard, every Albion fan must be sick of this as its the least we expect. I am totally staggered by the lack of activity, my confidene in Mr Burke is at an all time low, I feel he must be a main reason why the 2 previous managers and this current manager are having problems in recruiting, I can see the situation where we have the best theatre in the league but nobody performing in it !!!, please sort this out. Orlandi, Ulloa, TK, Ward, Bridge, Bridcutt, Upson, to name but a few who have been sold, A VERY CONCERNED BHA FAN[/p][/quote]I agree with most of what you say. I would also add that we should have already recruited all the players we needed BEFORE we sold Ulloa, because now everyone will push their asking prices right up - e.g. the Huddersfield Town bearded midfielder, Clayton. Brentford invested peanuts in a couple of star strikers in the making Matt Hobden from Rochdale (who has great skill and vision and scored 19 goals last season) and Gray 30 goals for Luton. I can't see us finding a class striker at this late stage without having to pay well over the odds - and as we won't do that - it will be stalemate or another mediocre journeyman. Word gets around that we are a tight club - and when they see the likes of Ulloa and Bridcutt leaving, any players worth their salt will decide against joining. The suits will hardly "sell" the club to an aspiring star - as they lack the charisma of an Ian Holloway or Gus Poyet. I for one think that we have "missed the boat" for another season and, although we still possess some talent in the squad, the 3 areas of concern still relate to a marked lack of pace at the back, a creative midfield player and a quality striker. These positions were highlighted 3 years ago and STILL we are saying the same things and making the same old excuses - while other clubs have been busy snapping up any talent which becomes available without the endless dithering and protracted negotiations which we seem to find necessary under the suits ! PERHAPS A CASE OF TOO MANY SUITS SPOIL THE BROTH?!!!!! Vince
  • Score: 19

4:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

tez1959 says...

bring in 1 or 2 big names then you will fill the amex simple as that
bring in 1 or 2 big names then you will fill the amex simple as that tez1959
  • Score: 3

4:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 9

4:40pm Fri 1 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Good morning Vegas ,
last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA
Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.'
Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher?
It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple.
The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid.

We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents.
God knows why I put 10,000 in the last line of my comment, I meant the number to be higher.
Last season Albion played a preseason friendly against Norwich over 10,000 went thru the gates.

Vegas fans(me) had to renew season ticket by the end of MARCH.

Fairweathers took a gamble,that is why 20000 season tickets have been sold.

Soccer growing in the states lets see 3 years from now (look at the Albion) only hardcore dying out(hope slowly)fans support this club,and that is max 15000.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Good morning Vegas , last nights figures were very low ,when we beat Chelsea 3-1 pre season before last we had 19,000 and that was capped . Cant argue with your figures ,and it wont be cheap replacing our losses ,but we have to put the money we got back into the team ,it`s mind blowing that these idiot suits think we can maintain 27,500 attendances while selling the family silver ,I hope we can get a few faces through the door before too much damage is done ,but poor Sami has been given precious little help so far . UTA[/p][/quote]Just a thought on the crowd number last evening Tug. The age old question of, what is the definition of a, 'big club,' might have partly been answered lst night. People want to see big clubs play, especially so if they rarely get the chance to. With no disrespect intended to Southampton, as yet they are not, 'a big club.' Had our match of yesterday been against Man United, Man City, Chelsea or Spurs, would you not agree that our crowd number would have been higher? It was only recently, recently in terms of how quickly fortunes can change in the football world, that were playing against Southampton in the league. A big club draws spectators, it's that simple. The friendly matches the top clubs are playing over here right now are drawing huge crowds, 50 to 60 thousand, and this in a country where soccer is still a growing spectator sport. There is a match coming off this weekend that will see around 100,000 go thru the gates, I think it's United V Madrid. We could have had 10,000 at the game last night, we just needed a bigger club to be our opponents.[/p][/quote]God knows why I put 10,000 in the last line of my comment, I meant the number to be higher.[/p][/quote]Last season Albion played a preseason friendly against Norwich over 10,000 went thru the gates. Vegas fans(me) had to renew season ticket by the end of MARCH. Fairweathers took a gamble,that is why 20000 season tickets have been sold. Soccer growing in the states lets see 3 years from now (look at the Albion) only hardcore dying out(hope slowly)fans support this club,and that is max 15000. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: -2

4:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Signing just about any player prior to Hyypia taking what ever time he needed to evaluate the squad would have been widely condemned. Not his choices so must be the choices of the suits, and the suits shouldn't tell Hyypia what his squad will look like for the coming season, and I don't have a problem with that view point.

Should have had a replacement lined up ready for the inevitable sale of Ulloa, hard to argue against that, but we certaily want Hyypia's involvement in who we would sign, so maybe better that we have waited.

This season we are having to not only address finding new players to freshen things up, something that all clubs do, but we are also having to pick up the work that was not carried out last year.
Appointing Garcia, at first glance, looked like a good move, as things turned out, and IMHO, it wasn't, Bloom got that one wrong. The guy came in with very little knowledge of the market and very little knowledge of our division, that left too much of the decision making to the suits, and possibly Jones to a lesser degree.

Those that say that we are once again playing catch up, well they are right but we are not just catching up on our competitors as it relates to this season, we also have last season's transfer inactivity to overcome, the responsibiliy for that has to sit with Mr. Bloom. It is one thing to take time to evaluate an inherited squad, it is something else to have to evaluate the market too, and that is what Garcia had to do.
Of course I am talking with the benefit of hindsight, I would never have said these things last season, but events have shown that the appointing of Garcia was a mistake, and Hyypia is not having to pay the price of that mistake. We should have started this year needing maybe 4 or 5 players, instead we need 8 or 9 and that higher need can be traced back directly to last year.
If Hyppia stays, and I think he will, our needs next year will be fewer.
Signing just about any player prior to Hyypia taking what ever time he needed to evaluate the squad would have been widely condemned. Not his choices so must be the choices of the suits, and the suits shouldn't tell Hyypia what his squad will look like for the coming season, and I don't have a problem with that view point. Should have had a replacement lined up ready for the inevitable sale of Ulloa, hard to argue against that, but we certaily want Hyypia's involvement in who we would sign, so maybe better that we have waited. This season we are having to not only address finding new players to freshen things up, something that all clubs do, but we are also having to pick up the work that was not carried out last year. Appointing Garcia, at first glance, looked like a good move, as things turned out, and IMHO, it wasn't, Bloom got that one wrong. The guy came in with very little knowledge of the market and very little knowledge of our division, that left too much of the decision making to the suits, and possibly Jones to a lesser degree. Those that say that we are once again playing catch up, well they are right but we are not just catching up on our competitors as it relates to this season, we also have last season's transfer inactivity to overcome, the responsibiliy for that has to sit with Mr. Bloom. It is one thing to take time to evaluate an inherited squad, it is something else to have to evaluate the market too, and that is what Garcia had to do. Of course I am talking with the benefit of hindsight, I would never have said these things last season, but events have shown that the appointing of Garcia was a mistake, and Hyypia is not having to pay the price of that mistake. We should have started this year needing maybe 4 or 5 players, instead we need 8 or 9 and that higher need can be traced back directly to last year. If Hyppia stays, and I think he will, our needs next year will be fewer. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 7

4:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

arc12 says...

Lessons must be learned from this summer's fiasco to prevent a similar situation occurring next summer. It maybe too late to give ourselves a realistic chance this season but TB & PB please make sure this doesn't happen again next year. I can take 1 season of mediocrity and will still make every game this season except for 3 or 4 of the away fixtures , but we don't want to be having this sort of debate in 12 months time.
Lessons must be learned from this summer's fiasco to prevent a similar situation occurring next summer. It maybe too late to give ourselves a realistic chance this season but TB & PB please make sure this doesn't happen again next year. I can take 1 season of mediocrity and will still make every game this season except for 3 or 4 of the away fixtures , but we don't want to be having this sort of debate in 12 months time. arc12
  • Score: 10

4:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

oksouthstander says...

How many times have we ever had more than 7,296 on a THURSDAY night. Come on. Bad decision by the board to change the day.Looking forward to 3 new signings in the next week.
How many times have we ever had more than 7,296 on a THURSDAY night. Come on. Bad decision by the board to change the day.Looking forward to 3 new signings in the next week. oksouthstander
  • Score: 3

5:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
Arnie it is all doom and gloom to most on here always the same people, sit back and wait for the players to arrive, according to most people we are down already, they have not got a clue!!
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]Arnie it is all doom and gloom to most on here always the same people, sit back and wait for the players to arrive, according to most people we are down already, they have not got a clue!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 2

5:28pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank???? mikeygit
  • Score: 4

5:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

amexarena wrote:
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying.
Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far.
But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5)
Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped.
As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate.
And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man.
People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
[quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 3

5:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

mikeygit wrote:
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
Personally Mikey, I've no idea what the solution is because I've actually no idea about the exact nature of the problem (if indeed there is one?)
But as I said somewhere else, it seems signing players for us, is like pulling teeth and it certainly feels like there's blockage somewhere.
Perhaps we're simply being business-like in a world that isn't renowned for being so?
The problem with that is, that even if you don't like the rules of all the others in the playground, sometimes you have to play their way just to get a game..
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????[/p][/quote]Personally Mikey, I've no idea what the solution is because I've actually no idea about the exact nature of the problem (if indeed there is one?) But as I said somewhere else, it seems signing players for us, is like pulling teeth and it certainly feels like there's blockage somewhere. Perhaps we're simply being business-like in a world that isn't renowned for being so? The problem with that is, that even if you don't like the rules of all the others in the playground, sometimes you have to play their way just to get a game.. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

5:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Neville says...

Albion in staffs
Fans don,t expect to know the finer details of any transfer activity, or potential targets, just an intent that the club are aware of the need to strengthen and that is their aim. There has been no updates at all on Stephens recovery,real insights into the training academy,no really meaningful interview with Sami or Nathan. No news update on recruitment or otherwise of a no 2. and no mention of sudden price increase for food at The Amex,fans need to be kept minimally informed.
The fans forum has hardly been advertised,just once on the website,hopefully some pertinent questions will be raised with some straight answers. How about an update on where we are with FFP.
All is strangely quiet at The Amex.
Albion in staffs Fans don,t expect to know the finer details of any transfer activity, or potential targets, just an intent that the club are aware of the need to strengthen and that is their aim. There has been no updates at all on Stephens recovery,real insights into the training academy,no really meaningful interview with Sami or Nathan. No news update on recruitment or otherwise of a no 2. and no mention of sudden price increase for food at The Amex,fans need to be kept minimally informed. The fans forum has hardly been advertised,just once on the website,hopefully some pertinent questions will be raised with some straight answers. How about an update on where we are with FFP. All is strangely quiet at The Amex. Neville
  • Score: -7

5:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
amexarena wrote:
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying.
Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far.
But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5)
Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped.
As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate.
And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man.
People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.[/p][/quote]Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 6

6:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Neville wrote:
Albion in staffs
Fans don,t expect to know the finer details of any transfer activity, or potential targets, just an intent that the club are aware of the need to strengthen and that is their aim. There has been no updates at all on Stephens recovery,real insights into the training academy,no really meaningful interview with Sami or Nathan. No news update on recruitment or otherwise of a no 2. and no mention of sudden price increase for food at The Amex,fans need to be kept minimally informed.
The fans forum has hardly been advertised,just once on the website,hopefully some pertinent questions will be raised with some straight answers. How about an update on where we are with FFP.
All is strangely quiet at The Amex.
I couldn't agree more on general point! I've said before the club's apparent intention to operate within it's own vacuum is difficult to fathom.
All the elements you mention represent stuff the club should have no problem in discussing or sharing with their local paper. Secrecy breeds cynicism; a little nod to the fans goes a long way.
However, my point was in response to amexarena, who clearly thought PB should be outlining specific budgetary figures and targets and was a fool for not doing so.
But to your main point, i agree wholeheartedly. There are certainly things they can say and updates they can make without giving away the crown jewels everytime.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Albion in staffs Fans don,t expect to know the finer details of any transfer activity, or potential targets, just an intent that the club are aware of the need to strengthen and that is their aim. There has been no updates at all on Stephens recovery,real insights into the training academy,no really meaningful interview with Sami or Nathan. No news update on recruitment or otherwise of a no 2. and no mention of sudden price increase for food at The Amex,fans need to be kept minimally informed. The fans forum has hardly been advertised,just once on the website,hopefully some pertinent questions will be raised with some straight answers. How about an update on where we are with FFP. All is strangely quiet at The Amex.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more on general point! I've said before the club's apparent intention to operate within it's own vacuum is difficult to fathom. All the elements you mention represent stuff the club should have no problem in discussing or sharing with their local paper. Secrecy breeds cynicism; a little nod to the fans goes a long way. However, my point was in response to amexarena, who clearly thought PB should be outlining specific budgetary figures and targets and was a fool for not doing so. But to your main point, i agree wholeheartedly. There are certainly things they can say and updates they can make without giving away the crown jewels everytime. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: -3

6:09pm Fri 1 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
Personally Mikey, I've no idea what the solution is because I've actually no idea about the exact nature of the problem (if indeed there is one?)
But as I said somewhere else, it seems signing players for us, is like pulling teeth and it certainly feels like there's blockage somewhere.
Perhaps we're simply being business-like in a world that isn't renowned for being so?
The problem with that is, that even if you don't like the rules of all the others in the playground, sometimes you have to play their way just to get a game..
The problem is imho ,Albion want to be down to the 3m by december.
Other teams not giving a monkey's,have to get 2 jags involved lol.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????[/p][/quote]Personally Mikey, I've no idea what the solution is because I've actually no idea about the exact nature of the problem (if indeed there is one?) But as I said somewhere else, it seems signing players for us, is like pulling teeth and it certainly feels like there's blockage somewhere. Perhaps we're simply being business-like in a world that isn't renowned for being so? The problem with that is, that even if you don't like the rules of all the others in the playground, sometimes you have to play their way just to get a game..[/p][/quote]The problem is imho ,Albion want to be down to the 3m by december. Other teams not giving a monkey's,have to get 2 jags involved lol. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
amexarena wrote:
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying.
Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far.
But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5)
Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped.
As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate.
And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man.
People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen.
You clearly need a lie down..
Meanwhile I'll double check my post, I must've said something I now regret.... Surely?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.[/p][/quote]Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen.[/p][/quote]You clearly need a lie down.. Meanwhile I'll double check my post, I must've said something I now regret.... Surely? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 1

6:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Football is supposed to be in the entertainment business.
The better the entertainment the bigger the crowd.
Make note all you running the Albion. UTA
Football is supposed to be in the entertainment business. The better the entertainment the bigger the crowd. Make note all you running the Albion. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 7

6:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

leafletman says...

What is this club doing about transfers the last 2 years its been a complete joke.
"We are working hard" What a load b******ks

I have been a supporter for 30 years and i never experienced this farce before .
What is this club doing about transfers the last 2 years its been a complete joke. "We are working hard" What a load b******ks I have been a supporter for 30 years and i never experienced this farce before . leafletman
  • Score: 4

6:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
Hi Mickey.

Mickey what would you have the club do if, we find a target, we offer 1.25M, and we migth go to 1.5M if we have to, but his club ask for 3.25M. This player is not on any transfer list and his club might be very happy to keep him. Remeber we can't even talk to the player until his club give us permission to do so, so his wage demands still have to be sorted.

The next player want is a loan deal, we approach, we offer to pay 10K a week toward his wages, his parent club want us to pay 20K a week.

Now we need a minimum of four quality players, so the above scenarios could occur with all of them, so how far should we push the boat out?
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????[/p][/quote]Hi Mickey. Mickey what would you have the club do if, we find a target, we offer 1.25M, and we migth go to 1.5M if we have to, but his club ask for 3.25M. This player is not on any transfer list and his club might be very happy to keep him. Remeber we can't even talk to the player until his club give us permission to do so, so his wage demands still have to be sorted. The next player want is a loan deal, we approach, we offer to pay 10K a week toward his wages, his parent club want us to pay 20K a week. Now we need a minimum of four quality players, so the above scenarios could occur with all of them, so how far should we push the boat out? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings. mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

6:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
Football is supposed to be in the entertainment business.
The better the entertainment the bigger the crowd.
Make note all you running the Albion. UTA
Agree want Albion to win every game,sad if they lose but if the game was entertaining,lets say seen good football.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: Football is supposed to be in the entertainment business. The better the entertainment the bigger the crowd. Make note all you running the Albion. UTA[/p][/quote]Agree want Albion to win every game,sad if they lose but if the game was entertaining,lets say seen good football. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity.
It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity. Andrea Orlandigasm
  • Score: 4

6:54pm Fri 1 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Andrea Orlandigasm wrote:
It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity.
Not all bad Andrea at least your get to see Orlandi at the amex on the wrong side though!!
[quote][p][bold]Andrea Orlandigasm[/bold] wrote: It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity.[/p][/quote]Not all bad Andrea at least your get to see Orlandi at the amex on the wrong side though!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Cheese Rolls says...

a) It was only a friendly
b) it was only Southampton so not the greatest draw of a crowd.
c) They should have opened the North Stand and at least then there would have been a bit of atmosphere.
d) It is not doom and gloom, the test starts on Aug 9th,
a) It was only a friendly b) it was only Southampton so not the greatest draw of a crowd. c) They should have opened the North Stand and at least then there would have been a bit of atmosphere. d) It is not doom and gloom, the test starts on Aug 9th, Cheese Rolls
  • Score: -4

6:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
mikeygit wrote:
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
Hi Mickey.

Mickey what would you have the club do if, we find a target, we offer 1.25M, and we migth go to 1.5M if we have to, but his club ask for 3.25M. This player is not on any transfer list and his club might be very happy to keep him. Remeber we can't even talk to the player until his club give us permission to do so, so his wage demands still have to be sorted.

The next player want is a loan deal, we approach, we offer to pay 10K a week toward his wages, his parent club want us to pay 20K a week.

Now we need a minimum of four quality players, so the above scenarios could occur with all of them, so how far should we push the boat out?
The first 2 are really dificult MOVE ON.
Whome is a quality player how do you difine ?.

Unless the player proves himself for the club he signed.
Ask ManU (Fellaini)Chelsea (Torres)WHU(Caroll)e
tc,etc.

Push out the boat that is what TB wants. Unless you can put a few million in
the kitty.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????[/p][/quote]Hi Mickey. Mickey what would you have the club do if, we find a target, we offer 1.25M, and we migth go to 1.5M if we have to, but his club ask for 3.25M. This player is not on any transfer list and his club might be very happy to keep him. Remeber we can't even talk to the player until his club give us permission to do so, so his wage demands still have to be sorted. The next player want is a loan deal, we approach, we offer to pay 10K a week toward his wages, his parent club want us to pay 20K a week. Now we need a minimum of four quality players, so the above scenarios could occur with all of them, so how far should we push the boat out?[/p][/quote]The first 2 are really dificult MOVE ON. Whome is a quality player how do you difine ?. Unless the player proves himself for the club he signed. Ask ManU (Fellaini)Chelsea (Torres)WHU(Caroll)e tc,etc. Push out the boat that is what TB wants. Unless you can put a few million in the kitty. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 0

7:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Andrea Orlandigasm wrote:
It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity.
Not all bad Andrea at least your get to see Orlandi at the amex on the wrong side though!!
Interesting point, but he hasn't signed for Blackpool yet and their Chairman has spoken today of a 'failed medical' amidst all their activity.
It couldn't be, could it?
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrea Orlandigasm[/bold] wrote: It wasn't Barcelona but a pre-season friendly against a club that we finished above in the league not so long ago. Couple that with the loss of all our best players and it's hardly surprising that more people didn't turn up. It sounds like 20,000 of us dodged a bullet (for the time being at least) by missing out on the mediocrity.[/p][/quote]Not all bad Andrea at least your get to see Orlandi at the amex on the wrong side though!![/p][/quote]Interesting point, but he hasn't signed for Blackpool yet and their Chairman has spoken today of a 'failed medical' amidst all their activity. It couldn't be, could it? Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 2

7:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

keswick says...

The size of the crowd does not surprise me one bit and I think it is a combination of circumstances. The day the game was played, holiday time, strain on finances, lack of player recruitment and how they have performed in other pre-season games all play a part. The other thing that really worries me is that there now appears to be a chasm between the board and the supporters. TB, PB and DB have a lot of work to do to put that right and that must start at the forum on Tuesday. Some honest answers there would not go amiss. Personally I have severe doubts about DB and wonder how much he is to blame ?
The size of the crowd does not surprise me one bit and I think it is a combination of circumstances. The day the game was played, holiday time, strain on finances, lack of player recruitment and how they have performed in other pre-season games all play a part. The other thing that really worries me is that there now appears to be a chasm between the board and the supporters. TB, PB and DB have a lot of work to do to put that right and that must start at the forum on Tuesday. Some honest answers there would not go amiss. Personally I have severe doubts about DB and wonder how much he is to blame ? keswick
  • Score: 5

7:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Never_Wrong says...

Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide.
Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide. Never_Wrong
  • Score: -3

7:11pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Never_Wrong wrote:
Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide.
I was shocked at how poor we were, chickson looked capable going forward, our midfield can't stop the ball into feet of there forwards,
Big sami has a job on his hands.
[quote][p][bold]Never_Wrong[/bold] wrote: Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide.[/p][/quote]I was shocked at how poor we were, chickson looked capable going forward, our midfield can't stop the ball into feet of there forwards, Big sami has a job on his hands. mark by the sea
  • Score: -3

7:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Vegas/don´t wanna etc--thanks for your replies.
I think a lot of BHA ´problems´are of OUR making. Quite understandably we speculate as we have very little hard facts to make our assumptions---only what does NOT happen--like new players when WE expect them. TB runs the club--I Guess--like his business. He keeps his cards very close to his chest, pardon the pun, he only tells the press what he wants them to know and he runs the Club on quite strict financial guidelines. All these factors are alien to some football clubs. As to the answer to some of your points---what makes a quality player?? Well 64,000$ question. One player may play a blinder for one club and yet just not do it at another club---three players mentioned are good examples. So getting back to TB it is ALL a bit of a gamble, so we have to look at it that he is a very successful gambler and lets hope that in the end he does the same for BHA. Lets not forget when those who slag him off remember that he wants success as much as us. I think BHA are very good at keep things hush hush until things actually happen so lets hope by this time next week they are able to put news in the public domain.
Good weekend all--just out for an outside meal at one of our local Spanish restaurants!!
Vegas/don´t wanna etc--thanks for your replies. I think a lot of BHA ´problems´are of OUR making. Quite understandably we speculate as we have very little hard facts to make our assumptions---only what does NOT happen--like new players when WE expect them. TB runs the club--I Guess--like his business. He keeps his cards very close to his chest, pardon the pun, he only tells the press what he wants them to know and he runs the Club on quite strict financial guidelines. All these factors are alien to some football clubs. As to the answer to some of your points---what makes a quality player?? Well 64,000$ question. One player may play a blinder for one club and yet just not do it at another club---three players mentioned are good examples. So getting back to TB it is ALL a bit of a gamble, so we have to look at it that he is a very successful gambler and lets hope that in the end he does the same for BHA. Lets not forget when those who slag him off remember that he wants success as much as us. I think BHA are very good at keep things hush hush until things actually happen so lets hope by this time next week they are able to put news in the public domain. Good weekend all--just out for an outside meal at one of our local Spanish restaurants!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

7:22pm Fri 1 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Keswick--Totally agree with the distance between fans and The Board. In order for any business organisation to to have the confidence of its fans /shareholders they must relate to them. Going off topic---I have a number of small shares and they have not been doing very well over the last few years but the ones I have faith in are the ones who answer e-mails and points put to them, answers from the CEO direct to me, even on a Sunday night. I thiknk they are worthy of support in what they. My point is that TB and The Board HAVE to communicate better with the fans for, without them---like shareholders---they have no Club or business. They must not take the Fans for granted. I hope there are plenty of fans at The Forum on Tuesday and that the board give honest and comprehensive answers---NO POLITICAL type answers--who answer everything but the question.
Keswick--Totally agree with the distance between fans and The Board. In order for any business organisation to to have the confidence of its fans /shareholders they must relate to them. Going off topic---I have a number of small shares and they have not been doing very well over the last few years but the ones I have faith in are the ones who answer e-mails and points put to them, answers from the CEO direct to me, even on a Sunday night. I thiknk they are worthy of support in what they. My point is that TB and The Board HAVE to communicate better with the fans for, without them---like shareholders---they have no Club or business. They must not take the Fans for granted. I hope there are plenty of fans at The Forum on Tuesday and that the board give honest and comprehensive answers---NO POLITICAL type answers--who answer everything but the question. mikeygit
  • Score: -3

7:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
amexarena wrote:
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying.
Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far.
But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5)
Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped.
As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate.
And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man.
People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen.
You clearly need a lie down..
Meanwhile I'll double check my post, I must've said something I now regret.... Surely?
made me chuckle
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.[/p][/quote]Staffs don't hold it against me but, I find myself agreeing with every word contained in your comment, now how the heck did that happen.[/p][/quote]You clearly need a lie down.. Meanwhile I'll double check my post, I must've said something I now regret.... Surely?[/p][/quote]made me chuckle VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

7:33pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Dannyhoops says...

Sorry that Sammi was disappointed in the atmosphere and not as many people as expected at last nights match.

Several reasons have been highlighted possible causes being lack of signings, not enough activity in the transfer market, the budgets and salaries at the club and "to many suits" ----- all of these can affect every match.

Last nights attendance in my mind had several of factors that should also be mentioned/considered -

- having to change the match arrangements so as not to clash with Gay Pride, playing the match on a Thursday instead of a Saturday afternoon will always cut the attendance down as so many people have to get up for work the next day.
- not opening the North Stand to the "noisier" /singing fans straightway reduces atmosphere and therefore peoples enjoyment of the match.
- the difficulties in travel arrangements, this has been highlighted by fans for example traveling from the Mile Oak area and I'm sure this is not the only area affected by this problem.
- the involvement of to many pumped up suits walking around the stadium during the match, along with people who didn't appear to know what they were meant to be doing. How much inefficient staff are the club carrying? Some staff appear to do the job of two or three while others haven't a clue!
- communication is a two way thing and there needs to be increased communication between the club and fans. Not the penny for penny type of information but people telling the truth so when they say we don't know what is happening fans can believe what is being said is the truth.

Moan over - lets get behind Sammi and the team for a new season, with our heads being realistic about the outcome and our hearts believing we will be playing in the Premiership soon. Even though we all know the true football experience is in the Championship and lower leagues where it is about survival due to money and not living beyond our means like the Premiership.
Come on Seagulls
Sorry that Sammi was disappointed in the atmosphere and not as many people as expected at last nights match. Several reasons have been highlighted possible causes being lack of signings, not enough activity in the transfer market, the budgets and salaries at the club and "to many suits" ----- all of these can affect every match. Last nights attendance in my mind had several of factors that should also be mentioned/considered - - having to change the match arrangements so as not to clash with Gay Pride, playing the match on a Thursday instead of a Saturday afternoon will always cut the attendance down as so many people have to get up for work the next day. - not opening the North Stand to the "noisier" /singing fans straightway reduces atmosphere and therefore peoples enjoyment of the match. - the difficulties in travel arrangements, this has been highlighted by fans for example traveling from the Mile Oak area and I'm sure this is not the only area affected by this problem. - the involvement of to many pumped up suits walking around the stadium during the match, along with people who didn't appear to know what they were meant to be doing. How much inefficient staff are the club carrying? Some staff appear to do the job of two or three while others haven't a clue! - communication is a two way thing and there needs to be increased communication between the club and fans. Not the penny for penny type of information but people telling the truth so when they say we don't know what is happening fans can believe what is being said is the truth. Moan over - lets get behind Sammi and the team for a new season, with our heads being realistic about the outcome and our hearts believing we will be playing in the Premiership soon. Even though we all know the true football experience is in the Championship and lower leagues where it is about survival due to money and not living beyond our means like the Premiership. Come on Seagulls Dannyhoops
  • Score: -1

7:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Ahamay wrote:
If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination.
The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips.
With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind.
I think 1901 members go free and there were a lot less there last night don't know if that effects figures ?
Although due to the activity on the transfer front I and many others are concerned by what appears to be PPP rather than FFP !
[quote][p][bold]Ahamay[/bold] wrote: If I might use a well worn cliche. A friendly is a friendly. It provides a useful tool with which to further the process of player examination. The fact that the attendance did or did not meet with any preconceived expectations is really not important. Most fans are only prepared to pay for matches which are competitive and meaningful, and not have to endure all manner of team changes, systems, styles, or clashing team strips. With the unusual twist of Wednesday arriving on a Saturday this season, then this will be the true test for all concerned, and not a tepid encounter of the less than exacting kind.[/p][/quote]I think 1901 members go free and there were a lot less there last night don't know if that effects figures ? Although due to the activity on the transfer front I and many others are concerned by what appears to be PPP rather than FFP ! Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: -1

7:53pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
Its called scrapping the barrel !
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]Its called scrapping the barrel ! Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 1

8:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

One Club, One Ambition
Ok we know the Club, but where's the Ambition gone, we should be evolving, but what I've seen one the pitch is a team going backwards, the honeymoon period is over, the worrying thing is where ever Gus's "Ceiling" was, it seems to be lower now, the club needs to make a positive statement, we want to follow the Club but that means we need some leadership, the silence is almost deafening, from what I saw last night the new Manager made no effort to get the Fans on his side, I may have missed it, but I didn't see him acknowledge the Crowd before or after the game, it's not much to ask, even Oscar got that right. As for signing Players, I'll start buying Pies when I see that the monies going on the pitch as in a competitive team , & I might even buy a pint when we start winning matches, but till then I'll follow the lead of the Board & keep my money in my pocket.
One Club, One Ambition Ok we know the Club, but where's the Ambition gone, we should be evolving, but what I've seen one the pitch is a team going backwards, the honeymoon period is over, the worrying thing is where ever Gus's "Ceiling" was, it seems to be lower now, the club needs to make a positive statement, we want to follow the Club but that means we need some leadership, the silence is almost deafening, from what I saw last night the new Manager made no effort to get the Fans on his side, I may have missed it, but I didn't see him acknowledge the Crowd before or after the game, it's not much to ask, even Oscar got that right. As for signing Players, I'll start buying Pies when I see that the monies going on the pitch as in a competitive team , & I might even buy a pint when we start winning matches, but till then I'll follow the lead of the Board & keep my money in my pocket. blue-eyed-boy
  • Score: 4

9:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-( AlfieT
  • Score: -1

9:11pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

9:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
Its called scrapping the barrel !
I'm all for scrapping barrels. We don't need them on the payroll, the freeloaders.
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]Its called scrapping the barrel ![/p][/quote]I'm all for scrapping barrels. We don't need them on the payroll, the freeloaders. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

9:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

AlfieT wrote:
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
Get out now, while you can.

Brighton will never win anything, and its not their fault.

FFP has ruined the game and cemented the top five into the winners places, no chance for a club like ours to be successful.

Look at Southampton, had the makings of a good team but are picked apart by the vultures.
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-([/p][/quote]Get out now, while you can. Brighton will never win anything, and its not their fault. FFP has ruined the game and cemented the top five into the winners places, no chance for a club like ours to be successful. Look at Southampton, had the makings of a good team but are picked apart by the vultures. ringtone
  • Score: 2

9:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Cory and Trevor says...

leafletman wrote:
What is this club doing about transfers the last 2 years its been a complete joke.
"We are working hard" What a load b******ks

I have been a supporter for 30 years and i never experienced this farce before .
If you've been a supporter for 30 years, then you've experienced worse farces than this mate, and you know it!
[quote][p][bold]leafletman[/bold] wrote: What is this club doing about transfers the last 2 years its been a complete joke. "We are working hard" What a load b******ks I have been a supporter for 30 years and i never experienced this farce before .[/p][/quote]If you've been a supporter for 30 years, then you've experienced worse farces than this mate, and you know it! Cory and Trevor
  • Score: 5

9:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition.

But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names.

We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.[/p][/quote]In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition. But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names. We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game. ringtone
  • Score: 5

9:26pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

tez1959 wrote:
bring in 1 or 2 big names then you will fill the amex simple as that
Rod Stewart?????????????
[quote][p][bold]tez1959[/bold] wrote: bring in 1 or 2 big names then you will fill the amex simple as that[/p][/quote]Rod Stewart????????????? ringtone
  • Score: 2

9:30pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Never_Wrong wrote:
Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide.
Outstanding post Never wrong, more please
[quote][p][bold]Never_Wrong[/bold] wrote: Hyypia should be pleased.....only 7000 there to watch that shambles. Burke and Barber need to sort out recruitment and the manager needs to sort out his tactics. Playing with (basically) 2 at the back is suicide.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post Never wrong, more please ringtone
  • Score: -1

9:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition.

But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names.

We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.
No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter.

Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.[/p][/quote]In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition. But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names. We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.[/p][/quote]No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter. Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -3

9:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition.

But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names.

We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.
No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter.

Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.
So by implication we are are an unattractive club.

So what's the attraction for you arnie?

Or is that why you never attend Brighton games
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.[/p][/quote]In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition. But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names. We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.[/p][/quote]No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter. Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.[/p][/quote]So by implication we are are an unattractive club. So what's the attraction for you arnie? Or is that why you never attend Brighton games ringtone
  • Score: 0

9:50pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Far gull says...

You can fool some of the people, some of the time but not all of them all of the time.
Will be there saturday but we have lost momentum and only top signings and good results will fill amex.
Hope i am wrong but this has been coming ,warned Barber after Gus left less on infastructure more on players was req. All those bought were lesser players even in passion El Abd was worth two players.
Three B 's need to wake up fast .
You can fool some of the people, some of the time but not all of them all of the time. Will be there saturday but we have lost momentum and only top signings and good results will fill amex. Hope i am wrong but this has been coming ,warned Barber after Gus left less on infastructure more on players was req. All those bought were lesser players even in passion El Abd was worth two players. Three B 's need to wake up fast . Far gull
  • Score: 3

9:55pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Phillip Smith says...

as much as i hate loan deals, if there is such a sticking point over Stephen Wards wages why don't we just take him on a season long loan deal again like last year? on the same terms, with Wolves paying some of his wages. next season we can hopefully sign him permanently.
as much as i hate loan deals, if there is such a sticking point over Stephen Wards wages why don't we just take him on a season long loan deal again like last year? on the same terms, with Wolves paying some of his wages. next season we can hopefully sign him permanently. Phillip Smith
  • Score: -3

10:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition.

But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names.

We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.
No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter.

Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.
So by implication we are are an unattractive club.

So what's the attraction for you arnie?

Or is that why you never attend Brighton games
I dare say we are not a particularly attractive pre-season fixture to anyone other than lower league clubs.

This trope you stole from Mark about who does and doesn't attend games is very unoriginal. At least he does actually go himself. Try something else.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.[/p][/quote]In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition. But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names. We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.[/p][/quote]No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter. Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.[/p][/quote]So by implication we are are an unattractive club. So what's the attraction for you arnie? Or is that why you never attend Brighton games[/p][/quote]I dare say we are not a particularly attractive pre-season fixture to anyone other than lower league clubs. This trope you stole from Mark about who does and doesn't attend games is very unoriginal. At least he does actually go himself. Try something else. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

10:41pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

AlfieT wrote:
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟
🍔



Sorry I thought you said fat!!
After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-([/p][/quote]I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟 🍔 Sorry I thought you said fat!! After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸 Conelli98
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Fri 1 Aug 14

challster says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence.
We've been saying the same thing since Burke got involved in signing. It's about time he started to listen more to the supporters and more importantly the new incoming managers, otherwise he may find its 'curtains' with pressure coming from the fans this time around (evidenced by many on this forum) and no-doubt NSC. I'm sure the long term goal will be achieved, ie the premiership. However we seemed to have missed the opportunity twice now, with two very good managers departing as a result. Listen and learn, is the message here. Both our past managers have left with the new ones starting with a decimated team due to forced sales. While this cannot be helped, maybe players 'would' have stayed if they 'felt' the team was consolidated in the transfer window, not 'patched back together'. I am optimistic and believe we will eventually have a strong team this year, but we are relying on a better quality left back to arrive, an imposing striker - and possibly one more creatively experienced player. I'd like to see evidence that Sami is actually getting his own players in. Sorry Mr Burke, but you are not the one who has to 'call It' on the touch line! Please spend your time this season listening and learning from the manager on the pitch, if so we could be hitting auto promotion, not just top six! The message is loud and clear on both this forum and reading comments on the NSC, let the expert decide (Sami) we have more money now, which is more than we had this time last year. Time to let the reigns go and make some monetarily risky calls. Crikey, Peter Ward is an excellent left back, and well under budget for a man of his calibre.. This one is surely a 'no brainer?' If not let Sami decide!
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence.[/p][/quote]We've been saying the same thing since Burke got involved in signing. It's about time he started to listen more to the supporters and more importantly the new incoming managers, otherwise he may find its 'curtains' with pressure coming from the fans this time around (evidenced by many on this forum) and no-doubt NSC. I'm sure the long term goal will be achieved, ie the premiership. However we seemed to have missed the opportunity twice now, with two very good managers departing as a result. Listen and learn, is the message here. Both our past managers have left with the new ones starting with a decimated team due to forced sales. While this cannot be helped, maybe players 'would' have stayed if they 'felt' the team was consolidated in the transfer window, not 'patched back together'. I am optimistic and believe we will eventually have a strong team this year, but we are relying on a better quality left back to arrive, an imposing striker - and possibly one more creatively experienced player. I'd like to see evidence that Sami is actually getting his own players in. Sorry Mr Burke, but you are not the one who has to 'call It' on the touch line! Please spend your time this season listening and learning from the manager on the pitch, if so we could be hitting auto promotion, not just top six! The message is loud and clear on both this forum and reading comments on the NSC, let the expert decide (Sami) we have more money now, which is more than we had this time last year. Time to let the reigns go and make some monetarily risky calls. Crikey, Peter Ward is an excellent left back, and well under budget for a man of his calibre.. This one is surely a 'no brainer?' If not let Sami decide! challster
  • Score: 2

10:46pm Fri 1 Aug 14

gordongull says...

mikeygit wrote:
Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????
We need to buy the National Team of a small Nation, Mikeygit.
They will not require work permits, as they are International footballers, and more important to our current situation, they will not need time to gel.
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: Is it fast going round the footballers community that BHA are hard to do a deal with?? Whilst I am not doom and glooming, we have been promised players are coming in, close etc but we seem not to get there on some occasions which leads me to believe it is mostly down to money. Take the Ward scenario--we want him--I think--he has said in the past he would love to come back, but the stumbling block seems to indicate it is down to his wages--I may be wrong. on the plus side Brighton as a town is great, very vibrant no heavy industry around nice houses. As a CLUB we have some of the best facilities there are. A wonderful stadium, easy to get to and now training facilities many Premier clubs would be proud of. So IMO it all comes down to personal details on money and if TB will not budge on that signing QUALITY players is only going to get more difficult. Any suggestions, guys, on the solution without breaking the bank????[/p][/quote]We need to buy the National Team of a small Nation, Mikeygit. They will not require work permits, as they are International footballers, and more important to our current situation, they will not need time to gel. gordongull
  • Score: 2

10:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

heshootshescores wrote:
Can't believe we're seriously contemplating starting the season with this current squad.

I agree with a lot of the posts above, particularly the first one.

The impression the suits are giving right now is that they have not prepared properly for the new campaign and that the departure of Ulloa has thrown their plans into disarray...that is if they had a plan in the first place.

Pre-season friendlies are designed to get the squad fit and integrate new players into the team and a system of play.

Considering we're at least four players short of having even a half-decent team, the entire pre-season has been a complete waste of time.

Whatever Burke and Barber do between now and Saturday week, it's going to be a case of too little too late.

Funny how the club expects the fans to part with their money for season tickets months in advance yet they themselves think it's OK to leave things until the last minute.

Right now, they don't deserve the fantastic support they get...let last night's attendance be a warning.
Superb shout my friend.

Haven't seen your name before but keep them coming.

It's appears that theBoard of BHAFC have taken us a little too much for granted this close season.
[quote][p][bold]heshootshescores[/bold] wrote: Can't believe we're seriously contemplating starting the season with this current squad. I agree with a lot of the posts above, particularly the first one. The impression the suits are giving right now is that they have not prepared properly for the new campaign and that the departure of Ulloa has thrown their plans into disarray...that is if they had a plan in the first place. Pre-season friendlies are designed to get the squad fit and integrate new players into the team and a system of play. Considering we're at least four players short of having even a half-decent team, the entire pre-season has been a complete waste of time. Whatever Burke and Barber do between now and Saturday week, it's going to be a case of too little too late. Funny how the club expects the fans to part with their money for season tickets months in advance yet they themselves think it's OK to leave things until the last minute. Right now, they don't deserve the fantastic support they get...let last night's attendance be a warning.[/p][/quote]Superb shout my friend. Haven't seen your name before but keep them coming. It's appears that theBoard of BHAFC have taken us a little too much for granted this close season. SMF20
  • Score: 3

10:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

The lev says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.
What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800.
I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse!
Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable..
Saints reserves took us apart in every dept,
We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.
The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting.

It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do.

We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late.

Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway.

We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique.

By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.
In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition.

But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names.

We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.
No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter.

Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.
I was there , count yourselves lucky
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: We have a history over the last few years of making half of our signings in the last 24-48 hours of the window. It's when players and selling clubs get just as desperate as the buyers, and I can see no reason to think the same won't happen this year.[/p][/quote]What did you think of the gate? Good job saints brought 800. I was there, quite simply we were awful, same as last season but worse! Surely if sami is talking about counter attacking at pace they should be doing that now? We were painfully slow, sideways, predictable.. Saints reserves took us apart in every dept, We need 4-5 players ASAP. Three or four training sessions to go, and half the side is still coming in, yes Arnie we sign players late on, and we fail in the play offs, surely the team should be picking itself right now rather than hoping for signings.[/p][/quote]The gate wasn't amazing, but it was a Thursday (not a traditional football night) against not-very-attractive opposition. I'm not sure how many anyone was expecting. It's going to take time to get used to Sami's methods... most of these lads have been playing the slow method for ages. It will take time to adjust. They will get there, and we need to support them while they do. We didn't fail in the play-offs just because of buying players late. Personally I don't think we'll get into the play-offs this season, but unlike some others I'm going to enjoy the campaign anyway. We're not the only team still needing some more players. In fact I doubt there's a single club in this division currently happy with their squad. They will all seek to improve all the way to the deadline. We are not unique. By the way, this thing you (and others) have done of calling them 'Saints reserves' does them a massive disservice. They have sold about half their first team, but they still had Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Bertrand, Wanyama, Ward-Prowse, Davis, Cork and Hooiveld, plus some other, new signings. That is NOT particularly a reserve team.[/p][/quote]In your first sentence you say Southampton are not very attractive opposition. But In your last sentence you try to big them up by quoting their so called household names. We never know the truth with you but one thing is for sure you weren't at the game.[/p][/quote]No, I wasn't there, and nor were lots of other fans. Or you, for that matter. Despite all the decent players remaining, Southampton are just not an attractive club. You can be a decent team without being a big club. Do try and keep up - your insistence on trolling is holding you back.[/p][/quote]I was there , count yourselves lucky The lev
  • Score: 0

11:18pm Fri 1 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

Conelli98 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟

��🍔



Sorry I thought you said fat!!
After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸
LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-([/p][/quote]I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟 � ��🍔 Sorry I thought you said fat!! After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸[/p][/quote]LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better. AlfieT
  • Score: 2

11:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

New Jersey Seagull says...

When Sami came to BHA, there was talk of a fast breaking team similar to Derby who beat us in the playoffs and Southampton who beat us in a friendly. While fans might hail this change it is questionable whether the existing players and those recently signed have the recovery speed necessary to play this type of football. While fans have been critical of Oscar’s coaching last season he did make the playoffs, against a backdrop of injuries, loss of key players and questionable loan signings. While he might have wanted players who had the necessary skills for a more up-tempo approach, they were not forthcoming. However, what made him an exceptional coach was his ability to adapt the style of play to the quality of players at his disposal. I hope that Sami can make a similar adaptation because on the evidence to date players of the type that he hopes for are not coming to BHA.
UTA
When Sami came to BHA, there was talk of a fast breaking team similar to Derby who beat us in the playoffs and Southampton who beat us in a friendly. While fans might hail this change it is questionable whether the existing players and those recently signed have the recovery speed necessary to play this type of football. While fans have been critical of Oscar’s coaching last season he did make the playoffs, against a backdrop of injuries, loss of key players and questionable loan signings. While he might have wanted players who had the necessary skills for a more up-tempo approach, they were not forthcoming. However, what made him an exceptional coach was his ability to adapt the style of play to the quality of players at his disposal. I hope that Sami can make a similar adaptation because on the evidence to date players of the type that he hopes for are not coming to BHA. UTA New Jersey Seagull
  • Score: 2

11:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

AlfieT wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟

��
��🍔



Sorry I thought you said fat!!
After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸
LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better.
Glad to be of service Alfie! Sleep well fellow Albion worrier... Tomorrow will bring us news...I hope 😱
[quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-([/p][/quote]I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟 � �� ��🍔 Sorry I thought you said fat!! After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸[/p][/quote]LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better.[/p][/quote]Glad to be of service Alfie! Sleep well fellow Albion worrier... Tomorrow will bring us news...I hope 😱 Conelli98
  • Score: 2

3:54am Sat 2 Aug 14

TJ1952 says...

seagull52 wrote:
I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey.
I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade.
Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?
Agree about getting to stadium without park and ride, the parking ban near the ground and cost of parking in the car parks doesn't help attendances
[quote][p][bold]seagull52[/bold] wrote: I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey. I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade. Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?[/p][/quote]Agree about getting to stadium without park and ride, the parking ban near the ground and cost of parking in the car parks doesn't help attendances TJ1952
  • Score: 2

3:54am Sat 2 Aug 14

TJ1952 says...

seagull52 wrote:
I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey.
I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade.
Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?
Agree about getting to stadium without park and ride, the parking ban near the ground and cost of parking in the car parks doesn't help attendances
[quote][p][bold]seagull52[/bold] wrote: I live in Mile Oak/Downs Park area, without seagull travel which I always use, it's a nightmare journey by trains and buses. I went last night, but trains were delayed, buses didn't connect and much as I want to go to the Cheltenham cup match, I can't face the journey. I am a season ticket holder and go to most matches. Why couldn't Seagull travel do a pick up between Southwick and the Grenadier, e.g Warrior Close, Portslade. Maybe the travel put people off, not the team?[/p][/quote]Agree about getting to stadium without park and ride, the parking ban near the ground and cost of parking in the car parks doesn't help attendances TJ1952
  • Score: 2

8:01am Sat 2 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
AlfieT wrote:
With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat.
Somebody try to cheer me up please :-(
I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟

��
��
��🍔



Sorry I thought you said fat!!
After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸
LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better.
Glad to be of service Alfie! Sleep well fellow Albion worrier... Tomorrow will bring us news...I hope 😱
Told you there would be news!
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AlfieT[/bold] wrote: With a week to go before the first game I'm usually climbing the walls in anticipation and excitement, far from it sadly, and after last nights display against southampton's second team I feel as flat as a flat thing that's flat. Somebody try to cheer me up please :-([/p][/quote]I'm fatter than you Alfie T. Two McDonald's today, One KFC and now sitting in bed with a bottle of gold top. Now that's fat!!!🍼🍗🍟 � �� �� ��🍔 Sorry I thought you said fat!! After watching that dross last night I feel as low as the belly of a snake 🐸[/p][/quote]LoL Conelli, nice one thank you I feel so much better.[/p][/quote]Glad to be of service Alfie! Sleep well fellow Albion worrier... Tomorrow will bring us news...I hope 😱[/p][/quote]Told you there would be news! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

9:13am Sat 2 Aug 14

challster says...

challster wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence.
We've been saying the same thing since Burke got involved in signing. It's about time he started to listen more to the supporters and more importantly the new incoming managers, otherwise he may find its 'curtains' with pressure coming from the fans this time around (evidenced by many on this forum) and no-doubt NSC. I'm sure the long term goal will be achieved, ie the premiership. However we seemed to have missed the opportunity twice now, with two very good managers departing as a result. Listen and learn, is the message here. Both our past managers have left with the new ones starting with a decimated team due to forced sales. While this cannot be helped, maybe players 'would' have stayed if they 'felt' the team was consolidated in the transfer window, not 'patched back together'. I am optimistic and believe we will eventually have a strong team this year, but we are relying on a better quality left back to arrive, an imposing striker - and possibly one more creatively experienced player. I'd like to see evidence that Sami is actually getting his own players in. Sorry Mr Burke, but you are not the one who has to 'call It' on the touch line! Please spend your time this season listening and learning from the manager on the pitch, if so we could be hitting auto promotion, not just top six! The message is loud and clear on both this forum and reading comments on the NSC, let the expert decide (Sami) we have more money now, which is more than we had this time last year. Time to let the reigns go and make some monetarily risky calls. Crikey, Peter Ward is an excellent left back, and well under budget for a man of his calibre.. This one is surely a 'no brainer?' If not let Sami decide!
So, that was my first and last negative post. This morning brought news that we'd all been waiting for 3 potential signings. One of these is a certain Mr. Ward. Good news. Let me eat my words!
[quote][p][bold]challster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: I hate to say it but if the squad is not replenished the gates are inevitably going to suffer as a consequence.[/p][/quote]We've been saying the same thing since Burke got involved in signing. It's about time he started to listen more to the supporters and more importantly the new incoming managers, otherwise he may find its 'curtains' with pressure coming from the fans this time around (evidenced by many on this forum) and no-doubt NSC. I'm sure the long term goal will be achieved, ie the premiership. However we seemed to have missed the opportunity twice now, with two very good managers departing as a result. Listen and learn, is the message here. Both our past managers have left with the new ones starting with a decimated team due to forced sales. While this cannot be helped, maybe players 'would' have stayed if they 'felt' the team was consolidated in the transfer window, not 'patched back together'. I am optimistic and believe we will eventually have a strong team this year, but we are relying on a better quality left back to arrive, an imposing striker - and possibly one more creatively experienced player. I'd like to see evidence that Sami is actually getting his own players in. Sorry Mr Burke, but you are not the one who has to 'call It' on the touch line! Please spend your time this season listening and learning from the manager on the pitch, if so we could be hitting auto promotion, not just top six! The message is loud and clear on both this forum and reading comments on the NSC, let the expert decide (Sami) we have more money now, which is more than we had this time last year. Time to let the reigns go and make some monetarily risky calls. Crikey, Peter Ward is an excellent left back, and well under budget for a man of his calibre.. This one is surely a 'no brainer?' If not let Sami decide![/p][/quote]So, that was my first and last negative post. This morning brought news that we'd all been waiting for 3 potential signings. One of these is a certain Mr. Ward. Good news. Let me eat my words! challster
  • Score: 2

9:21am Sat 2 Aug 14

amexarena says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
amexarena wrote:
All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying.
Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far.
But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5)
Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped.
As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate.
And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man.
People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
My point was more general - and I understand the need to be circumspect. I can't give positive support to a series of events which culminates in a combination of selling the best players, playing ordinary home friendlies against banal opposition on a Thursday night, with a paper thin squad, overcharging the supporters, and then telling them that the activity that is going on is not to be questioned and won't be outlined to them. Sorry but this is crap marketing to fans who are now seriously taken for granted - and Sami Hyppia needs a big reality discussion with independent people if he thinks the fans are just going to turn up without thinking.
I confess - I turned up without thinking - and was shocked - and wondering why I have invested several thousand yet again in tickets for the coming season in a club which is losing sight of what its core support deserves.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.[/p][/quote]My point was more general - and I understand the need to be circumspect. I can't give positive support to a series of events which culminates in a combination of selling the best players, playing ordinary home friendlies against banal opposition on a Thursday night, with a paper thin squad, overcharging the supporters, and then telling them that the activity that is going on is not to be questioned and won't be outlined to them. Sorry but this is crap marketing to fans who are now seriously taken for granted - and Sami Hyppia needs a big reality discussion with independent people if he thinks the fans are just going to turn up without thinking. I confess - I turned up without thinking - and was shocked - and wondering why I have invested several thousand yet again in tickets for the coming season in a club which is losing sight of what its core support deserves. amexarena
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Perseus says...

I could not hack the trains in this weather. Sweaty steamy bodies all squeezed in. Beyond my endurance.
I could not hack the trains in this weather. Sweaty steamy bodies all squeezed in. Beyond my endurance. Perseus
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

sussexram40 wrote:
What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for. Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong! Hyypia will be gone by Xmas.
Nope. I've pretty much noted that you are ALWAYS. wrong!
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for. Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong! Hyypia will be gone by Xmas.[/p][/quote]Nope. I've pretty much noted that you are ALWAYS. wrong! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

11:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

amexarena wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
amexarena wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is !
I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.
My point was more general - and I understand the need to be circumspect. I can't give positive support to a series of events which culminates in a combination of selling the best players, playing ordinary home friendlies against banal opposition on a Thursday night, with a paper thin squad, overcharging the supporters, and then telling them that the activity that is going on is not to be questioned and won't be outlined to them. Sorry but this is crap marketing to fans who are now seriously taken for granted - and Sami Hyppia needs a big reality discussion with independent people if he thinks the fans are just going to turn up without thinking. I confess - I turned up without thinking - and was shocked - and wondering why I have invested several thousand yet again in tickets for the coming season in a club which is losing sight of what its core support deserves.
Several thousand? Are you sitting on gold-plated seats with beautiful women feeding you grapes??!! STs are £460-600!
[quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amexarena[/bold] wrote: All three goals cam through the middle of the defence - poor. poor defending - Hyppia should be saying that those who turned up were actually let down and you should be reporting that too, Andy Naylor. Shocking treatment of fans who are now routinely over-charged and fed rubbish by the club - "don't expect us to reveal targets, budgets or ambitions" says Barber. What a great marketing man he is ![/p][/quote]I certainly agree it's all frustrating and even a bit worrying but I can't agree on what the club should or shouldn't be saying. Firstly, They HAVE outlined their ambitions on many occasions although I'd accept that the actions taken this summer haven't exactly been consistent with the words so far. But to expect a club to openly publicise it's budget and it's targets is plain daft IMO. The fact that transfer fees are arbitrary and not displayed on a ticket round a player's neck, means clubs would simply manipulate the fees to suit the budget of the potential buyer. Got 10 mill to spend have you? Well he's worth at least 6... (Usual price 2.5) Same applies for player targets. You'd never alert other potential suitors that you were interested. Keep your activity away from prying eyes to minimise the chance of being gazumped. As a fan, it might not be what you want in terms of stories and news, but it's the only way clubs can operate. And final point, on that basis and in terms of what he's doing elsewhere, I'd say PB is actually a very good marketing man. People seem to want to criticise his wider abilities because we're not signing players. From where I'm sitting, that's unfair.[/p][/quote]My point was more general - and I understand the need to be circumspect. I can't give positive support to a series of events which culminates in a combination of selling the best players, playing ordinary home friendlies against banal opposition on a Thursday night, with a paper thin squad, overcharging the supporters, and then telling them that the activity that is going on is not to be questioned and won't be outlined to them. Sorry but this is crap marketing to fans who are now seriously taken for granted - and Sami Hyppia needs a big reality discussion with independent people if he thinks the fans are just going to turn up without thinking. I confess - I turned up without thinking - and was shocked - and wondering why I have invested several thousand yet again in tickets for the coming season in a club which is losing sight of what its core support deserves.[/p][/quote]Several thousand? Are you sitting on gold-plated seats with beautiful women feeding you grapes??!! STs are £460-600! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 3

12:04am Sun 3 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for. Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong! Hyypia will be gone by Xmas.
Nope. I've pretty much noted that you are ALWAYS. wrong!
You don't have followers, Sussexram40, you have avoiders.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: What do they expect. Sounds like Hyypia is blaming the fans for not turning up. We will turn up when the club gives us something to turn up for. Attendances will be down this year - and will nosedive throughout the season when we are down in 16th or 17th position which is what I predict. And followers may have noted that I'm not often wrong! Hyypia will be gone by Xmas.[/p][/quote]Nope. I've pretty much noted that you are ALWAYS. wrong![/p][/quote]You don't have followers, Sussexram40, you have avoiders. gordongull
  • Score: 1

9:13am Tue 5 Aug 14

lenward says...

I was told for the friendly against Southampton, the club only opened the lower east and lower west stands. That tells me they didn't want a big crowd, probably because they did not what to lay out a lot of money on a friendly. So with that said why did the club expect a bigger crowd. Next Saturday I will be surprised if the attendance is any more then 22000, very pleased if it is. A lot of people wait to see how the team is doing in games before deciding to go.

If we sign new players, it will take at least 5 games before we really get going. Even then we will have to be more consistent then last season and hopefully score more goals.
I was told for the friendly against Southampton, the club only opened the lower east and lower west stands. That tells me they didn't want a big crowd, probably because they did not what to lay out a lot of money on a friendly. So with that said why did the club expect a bigger crowd. Next Saturday I will be surprised if the attendance is any more then 22000, very pleased if it is. A lot of people wait to see how the team is doing in games before deciding to go. If we sign new players, it will take at least 5 games before we really get going. Even then we will have to be more consistent then last season and hopefully score more goals. lenward
  • Score: 0

8:42am Thu 7 Aug 14

Getreal you lot says...

That's because they are rubbish,rubbish,rubb
ish,rubbish,rubbish,
rubbish,rubbish,rubb
ish.rubbish
That's because they are rubbish,rubbish,rubb ish,rubbish,rubbish, rubbish,rubbish,rubb ish.rubbish Getreal you lot
  • Score: 1

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