O'Grady calls for cool heads after first-day defeat

Chris O'Grady goes for goal - but Keiren Westwood saved

Chris O'Grady goes for goal - but Keiren Westwood saved

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Chris O’Grady has called for cool heads after Albion got off to a losing start at the Amex.

The former Sheffield Wednesday striker went close to scoring against his old club as the Seagulls went down 1-0.

He admitted to disappointment at defeat on his debut but urged fans not to get too downhearted.

O’Grady admitted: “We were disappointed in the changing room afterwards but we know there is plenty of time to go.

“It’s no point being too down about it.

“We could have won our first game and we wouldn’t have got too high about that either.”

Albion return to action on Tuesday with a home Capital One Cup tie against Cheltenham.

O’Grady added: “I think it’s good we have got another game in a couple of days’ time.

“We want to get back on the pitch as soon as possible.

“It will be nice to get a win and get a few goals.

“We are still building.”

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9:33am Sun 10 Aug 14

batray says...

We all knew this was likely to happen. Squad weaker than last year. The club is in crisis on the pitch. Need the promised new player now ! Fans deserve more. Teams like Bournemouth are showing us how it can be done. Please please sign Billy Sharpe and other top quality championship players. We have come too far to throw it all way now
We all knew this was likely to happen. Squad weaker than last year. The club is in crisis on the pitch. Need the promised new player now ! Fans deserve more. Teams like Bournemouth are showing us how it can be done. Please please sign Billy Sharpe and other top quality championship players. We have come too far to throw it all way now batray
  • Score: 13

9:39am Sun 10 Aug 14

mark5 says...

"We are still building"...........
......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
"We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA mark5
  • Score: 33

9:50am Sun 10 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play. ringtone
  • Score: -49

9:52am Sun 10 Aug 14

petegh says...

mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........

......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
[quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance. petegh
  • Score: 54

9:54am Sun 10 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

I will reserve my judgement until post-transfer window. Clearly, we are a club in transition and I, along with a great many others, was concerned by what I saw yesterday. Was it the worst Amex performance I've seen? No, certainly not, but it must surely rank amongst them. We seem to have moved from the fluid, pass it out from the back style of play (which' let's face it, didn't win us promotion under two different managers) to a more direct approach and it remains to be seen whether this will have the desired impact this season. It's too early to say if Sami's is a Moyles-esque appointment but it's certainly premature to agree with the emotionally-based hysteria already decreeing this to be our relegation season. TB and his board will have witnessed what many of us have witnessed and, as I said, the time to judge will be once all the transfer dealings are over and we know the squad of players at our disposal and the style of play we'll be watching at the Amex.

Sami must be given his opportunity and, as died-in-the blue-wool Albion supporters, we must keep the faith.

UTA!!
I will reserve my judgement until post-transfer window. Clearly, we are a club in transition and I, along with a great many others, was concerned by what I saw yesterday. Was it the worst Amex performance I've seen? No, certainly not, but it must surely rank amongst them. We seem to have moved from the fluid, pass it out from the back style of play (which' let's face it, didn't win us promotion under two different managers) to a more direct approach and it remains to be seen whether this will have the desired impact this season. It's too early to say if Sami's is a Moyles-esque appointment but it's certainly premature to agree with the emotionally-based hysteria already decreeing this to be our relegation season. TB and his board will have witnessed what many of us have witnessed and, as I said, the time to judge will be once all the transfer dealings are over and we know the squad of players at our disposal and the style of play we'll be watching at the Amex. Sami must be given his opportunity and, as died-in-the blue-wool Albion supporters, we must keep the faith. UTA!! Aye Aye
  • Score: 28

10:00am Sun 10 Aug 14

keswick says...

petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........


......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
I think like yourself that true Brighton fans can have nothing but praise for TB. Think how far we have come from the last day at Hereford ?

However it was hard to take any positives from yesterday. The problems in the squad were glaringly obvious last year but have yet to be addressed hence the frustration. Lets see what the position is in a months time ? What I can do without is Barber addressing supporters in a patronising and condescending way as in the programme notes telling us to lay off Burke. Many Brighton supporters see him as the problem not the solution .
[quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]I think like yourself that true Brighton fans can have nothing but praise for TB. Think how far we have come from the last day at Hereford ? However it was hard to take any positives from yesterday. The problems in the squad were glaringly obvious last year but have yet to be addressed hence the frustration. Lets see what the position is in a months time ? What I can do without is Barber addressing supporters in a patronising and condescending way as in the programme notes telling us to lay off Burke. Many Brighton supporters see him as the problem not the solution . keswick
  • Score: 33

10:03am Sun 10 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear!
I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear! Albion fan in London
  • Score: 22

10:08am Sun 10 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

Wise words from COG, he Played well yesterday, new season, new manager, new players coming into the side, did well. Certainly going to get some different styles of play this season, looking forward to Tuesday and hopefully with no silly sending offs to spoil the game
Wise words from COG, he Played well yesterday, new season, new manager, new players coming into the side, did well. Certainly going to get some different styles of play this season, looking forward to Tuesday and hopefully with no silly sending offs to spoil the game championshipgull
  • Score: 21

10:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

Quiterie says...

I don't think we should all be doom and gloom, but Bloom, Burke & Barber must have known for weeks and weeks that there was the possibility of Ulloa leaving because of Leicester's prolonged interest. Therefore you would have hoped that they would have had a few irons in the fire to replace him. If we make a slow start, which looks distinctly possible, it will be harder to attract a marquee signing and harder to persuade them to leave their current club if they've made a good start (e.g. Baldock at Bristol City).

I'm very happy to continue backing Bloom because he's done so much for the club, but the replacement for Ulloa that we sign will go a long way to shaping the future of the club over the next couple of seasons.
I don't think we should all be doom and gloom, but Bloom, Burke & Barber must have known for weeks and weeks that there was the possibility of Ulloa leaving because of Leicester's prolonged interest. Therefore you would have hoped that they would have had a few irons in the fire to replace him. If we make a slow start, which looks distinctly possible, it will be harder to attract a marquee signing and harder to persuade them to leave their current club if they've made a good start (e.g. Baldock at Bristol City). I'm very happy to continue backing Bloom because he's done so much for the club, but the replacement for Ulloa that we sign will go a long way to shaping the future of the club over the next couple of seasons. Quiterie
  • Score: 26

10:14am Sun 10 Aug 14

Towner83 says...

I can't get over the fact that we started the game yesterday we a team so devoid of pace obviously excluding kaz who was IMO our only bright spark. I'm not convinced with Hughes at all and think dunk should be in instead. I was pleased with stockdale especially his distribuation, looks like a proper sweeper keeper. We need full backs, a creative midfielder, a winger, and a top notch striker as I thought o'grady was poor. Note to bloom, barber and burke. Get rid of the current recruitment system because it has so far cost you two top quality managers, countless good players, and most importantly Prem Football. I can't praise what these guys have done for the club off the pitch high enough but it's on the pitch that these guys are killing the ambition that they've created. UTA
I can't get over the fact that we started the game yesterday we a team so devoid of pace obviously excluding kaz who was IMO our only bright spark. I'm not convinced with Hughes at all and think dunk should be in instead. I was pleased with stockdale especially his distribuation, looks like a proper sweeper keeper. We need full backs, a creative midfielder, a winger, and a top notch striker as I thought o'grady was poor. Note to bloom, barber and burke. Get rid of the current recruitment system because it has so far cost you two top quality managers, countless good players, and most importantly Prem Football. I can't praise what these guys have done for the club off the pitch high enough but it's on the pitch that these guys are killing the ambition that they've created. UTA Towner83
  • Score: 25

10:18am Sun 10 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it. Max Ripple
  • Score: 23

10:25am Sun 10 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
I don't know from which vantage point you were looking from,but from mine, lower west dead on the halfway line I would say he can't be blamed, I think if the player were to be honest it was meant as a curled cross hit first time as he ran on to it, the ball both curled and looped over, he could have been lucky and the ball hit the flailed arm that he through up in hope, but that would have made a fluke save look fantastic, I for one felt the goalkeeper was one of the positives, in what was a poor performance against an equally poor side.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]I don't know from which vantage point you were looking from,but from mine, lower west dead on the halfway line I would say he can't be blamed, I think if the player were to be honest it was meant as a curled cross hit first time as he ran on to it, the ball both curled and looped over, he could have been lucky and the ball hit the flailed arm that he through up in hope, but that would have made a fluke save look fantastic, I for one felt the goalkeeper was one of the positives, in what was a poor performance against an equally poor side. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 9

10:29am Sun 10 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

keswick wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........



......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
I think like yourself that true Brighton fans can have nothing but praise for TB. Think how far we have come from the last day at Hereford ?

However it was hard to take any positives from yesterday. The problems in the squad were glaringly obvious last year but have yet to be addressed hence the frustration. Lets see what the position is in a months time ? What I can do without is Barber addressing supporters in a patronising and condescending way as in the programme notes telling us to lay off Burke. Many Brighton supporters see him as the problem not the solution .
Totally agree about Barber, Keswick. His tone to all fans over recent weeks (and last season to be honest) is very patronising. His attitude at the Fans Forum was pretty dreadful. A simple message of Don't criticise us when you know nothing about football etc.... Just keep giving us your money and all will be ok.......buy the new strips and enjoy the flat beer......I could go on but I won't.
I'm sure he is a good businessman and accountant but he has no idea when it comes to communication and vision.

Yesterday was very poor.. We all know that. Sami knows that but can't let it get him and the players down so early in the season. He can't just give up and come out on fans forums like this and say it's all hopeless. He and the team just have to keep trying - for a while at least.

Let's hope things get better soon. UTA!
[quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]I think like yourself that true Brighton fans can have nothing but praise for TB. Think how far we have come from the last day at Hereford ? However it was hard to take any positives from yesterday. The problems in the squad were glaringly obvious last year but have yet to be addressed hence the frustration. Lets see what the position is in a months time ? What I can do without is Barber addressing supporters in a patronising and condescending way as in the programme notes telling us to lay off Burke. Many Brighton supporters see him as the problem not the solution .[/p][/quote]Totally agree about Barber, Keswick. His tone to all fans over recent weeks (and last season to be honest) is very patronising. His attitude at the Fans Forum was pretty dreadful. A simple message of Don't criticise us when you know nothing about football etc.... Just keep giving us your money and all will be ok.......buy the new strips and enjoy the flat beer......I could go on but I won't. I'm sure he is a good businessman and accountant but he has no idea when it comes to communication and vision. Yesterday was very poor.. We all know that. Sami knows that but can't let it get him and the players down so early in the season. He can't just give up and come out on fans forums like this and say it's all hopeless. He and the team just have to keep trying - for a while at least. Let's hope things get better soon. UTA! Max Ripple
  • Score: 7

10:29am Sun 10 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Oh dear.
The comments on here do not bode well.
Over reaction by some? Possibly.
But at least a grain of truth from all? Definitely,
Poor start, poor preparation, but it is only day one.
My problem is I look at the names on the starting eleven and it's beginning to look like a Barnsley or a Birmingham team - bereft of quality, bereft of soul. In the last year, we've ripped out the team's heart with a series of sales and releases, haven't replaced it and it's looking like it showed. Yes, there is still time in August, but Bridcutt was sold in January and 7 months later, we're still looking for his replacement.
Against Wednesday, the one summer signing made before Hyppia arrived couldn't get a starting place, we play a naturally right-sided player on the left because it seems we haven't got an viable alternative and who in the last two years would countenance a starting line up that didn't include a fully fit Buckley?
Our pre-season was unimpressive and on the official website they have SH quoted as saying 'We're on course.'
Stories of chaos at the station, seem to highlight the ludicrous travel restrictions that, for the last three seasons have been overlooked by fans who've been kept generally satisfied by the football. But now, the complaints are mounting as questions are being asked, the food and beer criticised and the new shirts lambasted for their quality.
It's very early days and things can change with a couple of marquis signings, but the mood has definitely swung.
Next up, Cheltenham from division two. I shudder to think of the consequences.....
Oh dear. The comments on here do not bode well. Over reaction by some? Possibly. But at least a grain of truth from all? Definitely, Poor start, poor preparation, but it is only day one. My problem is I look at the names on the starting eleven and it's beginning to look like a Barnsley or a Birmingham team - bereft of quality, bereft of soul. In the last year, we've ripped out the team's heart with a series of sales and releases, haven't replaced it and it's looking like it showed. Yes, there is still time in August, but Bridcutt was sold in January and 7 months later, we're still looking for his replacement. Against Wednesday, the one summer signing made before Hyppia arrived couldn't get a starting place, we play a naturally right-sided player on the left because it seems we haven't got an viable alternative and who in the last two years would countenance a starting line up that didn't include a fully fit Buckley? Our pre-season was unimpressive and on the official website they have SH quoted as saying 'We're on course.' Stories of chaos at the station, seem to highlight the ludicrous travel restrictions that, for the last three seasons have been overlooked by fans who've been kept generally satisfied by the football. But now, the complaints are mounting as questions are being asked, the food and beer criticised and the new shirts lambasted for their quality. It's very early days and things can change with a couple of marquis signings, but the mood has definitely swung. Next up, Cheltenham from division two. I shudder to think of the consequences..... Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 11

10:45am Sun 10 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average.
Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 13

10:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

jarmonesque says...

The Sheffield Star gives a good report on the game, far more balanced than the hysterical nonsense on Argue comments from newbie 'fans'.
The Sheffield Star gives a good report on the game, far more balanced than the hysterical nonsense on Argue comments from newbie 'fans'. jarmonesque
  • Score: 1

10:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

rosakema says...

First time of posting so apologies nowjust in case!) Whether you were one that liked it or not Gus had a system, only one I know, and it was about possession which quite often laboriously slow at getting forward AND that was to be the system/style all teams would play. Forget about lack of quality players etc for the moment my point is "What is the system/style the Albion are playing now?" I couldn't see it at all yesterday or in friendly against southampton. Early days I know but .........
First time of posting so apologies nowjust in case!) Whether you were one that liked it or not Gus had a system, only one I know, and it was about possession which quite often laboriously slow at getting forward AND that was to be the system/style all teams would play. Forget about lack of quality players etc for the moment my point is "What is the system/style the Albion are playing now?" I couldn't see it at all yesterday or in friendly against southampton. Early days I know but ......... rosakema
  • Score: 6

10:49am Sun 10 Aug 14

spaintospain says...

As in life you get what you pay for spend nothing you get nothing . Are you telling me SH knew OG or is Mr Burke doing the buying and Sami just training them if so disaster is coming our way . Why keep macca on the bench for so long crazy and I'm sorry but I thought Sami was sitting on a deck chair by the pier his body language said it all can't be bothered . So do you think they are playing a numbers game get 6 points in aug then hit the loan market for 5 players . One thing is for sure Wednesday were poor and so were we never a dull moment at Brighton
As in life you get what you pay for spend nothing you get nothing . Are you telling me SH knew OG or is Mr Burke doing the buying and Sami just training them if so disaster is coming our way . Why keep macca on the bench for so long crazy and I'm sorry but I thought Sami was sitting on a deck chair by the pier his body language said it all can't be bothered . So do you think they are playing a numbers game get 6 points in aug then hit the loan market for 5 players . One thing is for sure Wednesday were poor and so were we never a dull moment at Brighton spaintospain
  • Score: 0

10:49am Sun 10 Aug 14

bbb1969 says...

This could be a similar story for most matches as COG has played for most championship sides.
I thought we were on top in the first half until the goal and then after the red card the team seemed fired up for most of the game. Wednesday came here to get a quick goal as they went all out in the first 20. If they had got an early goal they would have sat on the lead.
I was hoping JFC would be hungry this season but he made a couple of passes and then went missing. Really don't think he can cut it and not cos of his ability but complete lack of confidence.
Still optimistic but I will be happy with mid table this srason and good cup runs. Saying that we were mid table most of last season.
This could be a similar story for most matches as COG has played for most championship sides. I thought we were on top in the first half until the goal and then after the red card the team seemed fired up for most of the game. Wednesday came here to get a quick goal as they went all out in the first 20. If they had got an early goal they would have sat on the lead. I was hoping JFC would be hungry this season but he made a couple of passes and then went missing. Really don't think he can cut it and not cos of his ability but complete lack of confidence. Still optimistic but I will be happy with mid table this srason and good cup runs. Saying that we were mid table most of last season. bbb1969
  • Score: 3

10:53am Sun 10 Aug 14

rolivan says...

batray wrote:
We all knew this was likely to happen. Squad weaker than last year. The club is in crisis on the pitch. Need the promised new player now ! Fans deserve more. Teams like Bournemouth are showing us how it can be done. Please please sign Billy Sharpe and other top quality championship players. We have come too far to throw it all way now
Just like Bournemouth did last year and who finished above Who?
[quote][p][bold]batray[/bold] wrote: We all knew this was likely to happen. Squad weaker than last year. The club is in crisis on the pitch. Need the promised new player now ! Fans deserve more. Teams like Bournemouth are showing us how it can be done. Please please sign Billy Sharpe and other top quality championship players. We have come too far to throw it all way now[/p][/quote]Just like Bournemouth did last year and who finished above Who? rolivan
  • Score: 4

10:58am Sun 10 Aug 14

Barry W says...

I am a true fan of over 50 years,and so I feel I can comment on how MY money is wasted on some signings (Remy,Obika,Lita) and others but the board seems to be prepared to lose points at the start of the season to try to save a few pounds by leaving transfers/loans until the last minute.
Perhaps for example the extra £3k on Ward would have got us 3 points.Would that have been money well spent ? Your opinion please.
I am a true fan of over 50 years,and so I feel I can comment on how MY money is wasted on some signings (Remy,Obika,Lita) and others but the board seems to be prepared to lose points at the start of the season to try to save a few pounds by leaving transfers/loans until the last minute. Perhaps for example the extra £3k on Ward would have got us 3 points.Would that have been money well spent ? Your opinion please. Barry W
  • Score: 3

11:13am Sun 10 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
No Stockdale should have done better, you can see why Fulham didn't want him. I said we should have signed Butland when we had the chance. And Westwood would have been a good choice but Wednesday beat us to him.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]No Stockdale should have done better, you can see why Fulham didn't want him. I said we should have signed Butland when we had the chance. And Westwood would have been a good choice but Wednesday beat us to him. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -19

11:24am Sun 10 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........


......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 5

11:28am Sun 10 Aug 14

2ndCitySeagull says...

championshipgull wrote:
Wise words from COG, he Played well yesterday, new season, new manager, new players coming into the side, did well. Certainly going to get some different styles of play this season, looking forward to Tuesday and hopefully with no silly sending offs to spoil the game
Yes, COG had some nice touches and took up really good positions inside the box (although arrived a stride too early for the set piece corner in the first half).

Outside the box, general play and chasing back to defend are definitely not his strong points. Keeping calm and strong in the box, most definitely is his best attributes.

I'm sure he will get a dozen or more goals 12 yards from goal this season.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: Wise words from COG, he Played well yesterday, new season, new manager, new players coming into the side, did well. Certainly going to get some different styles of play this season, looking forward to Tuesday and hopefully with no silly sending offs to spoil the game[/p][/quote]Yes, COG had some nice touches and took up really good positions inside the box (although arrived a stride too early for the set piece corner in the first half). Outside the box, general play and chasing back to defend are definitely not his strong points. Keeping calm and strong in the box, most definitely is his best attributes. I'm sure he will get a dozen or more goals 12 yards from goal this season. 2ndCitySeagull
  • Score: 10

11:45am Sun 10 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average.
Actually, someone told me that three signings are imminent.
Baldock, Ward and Clayton are virtually done deals. You heard it here first.....or maybe last.
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average.[/p][/quote]Actually, someone told me that three signings are imminent. Baldock, Ward and Clayton are virtually done deals. You heard it here first.....or maybe last. Claude Back
  • Score: 8

11:48am Sun 10 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........



......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
Emperor's new clothes more like.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]Emperor's new clothes more like. Claude Back
  • Score: 1

11:50am Sun 10 Aug 14

raymondo999 says...

rosakema wrote:
First time of posting so apologies nowjust in case!) Whether you were one that liked it or not Gus had a system, only one I know, and it was about possession which quite often laboriously slow at getting forward AND that was to be the system/style all teams would play. Forget about lack of quality players etc for the moment my point is "What is the system/style the Albion are playing now?" I couldn't see it at all yesterday or in friendly against southampton. Early days I know but .........
For the first half they were playing 4-3-3, with two wing backs rather than wingers. Bruno and Calde often staying up field. This system relies on the midfield penetrating through the middle, but we couldn't. Towards the end we were hoofing high balls up the middle to CMS. That's not his game and the Wednesday defence gobbled it up. In short, there was a system but it didn't work because the players who started were not good enough. Only one game but from what I saw, o'grady can't hold the ball up, can't lay it off, can't weight a pass, can't head and has a weak shot. But he does run about a lot.
[quote][p][bold]rosakema[/bold] wrote: First time of posting so apologies nowjust in case!) Whether you were one that liked it or not Gus had a system, only one I know, and it was about possession which quite often laboriously slow at getting forward AND that was to be the system/style all teams would play. Forget about lack of quality players etc for the moment my point is "What is the system/style the Albion are playing now?" I couldn't see it at all yesterday or in friendly against southampton. Early days I know but .........[/p][/quote]For the first half they were playing 4-3-3, with two wing backs rather than wingers. Bruno and Calde often staying up field. This system relies on the midfield penetrating through the middle, but we couldn't. Towards the end we were hoofing high balls up the middle to CMS. That's not his game and the Wednesday defence gobbled it up. In short, there was a system but it didn't work because the players who started were not good enough. Only one game but from what I saw, o'grady can't hold the ball up, can't lay it off, can't weight a pass, can't head and has a weak shot. But he does run about a lot. raymondo999
  • Score: -11

11:59am Sun 10 Aug 14

To baldly go says...

JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........



......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm.
No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit!
It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo.
A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work!
Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm. No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit! It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo. A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work! Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season! To baldly go
  • Score: 24

12:05pm Sun 10 Aug 14

jockithenoo says...

Albion fan in London wrote:
I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear!
Sorry have to pick up on this one. Firstly kaz didn't seem to have any pace looked slow, our midfielders had little impact on the game some of our passing was woeful. Our new keeper looked good better vision than TK nothing he could do about that goal. Our forwards got very little time on the ball but showed potential when they did.
We where still the best eleven/ten men on the pitch by far.
given time we will be a team .
WE MARCH ON
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear![/p][/quote]Sorry have to pick up on this one. Firstly kaz didn't seem to have any pace looked slow, our midfielders had little impact on the game some of our passing was woeful. Our new keeper looked good better vision than TK nothing he could do about that goal. Our forwards got very little time on the ball but showed potential when they did. We where still the best eleven/ten men on the pitch by far. given time we will be a team . WE MARCH ON UTA jockithenoo
  • Score: -7

12:14pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Newhavenles says...

We need to play the same squad against Cheltenham on Tuesday as some of the players were not fit enough to play the 90 mins and need the playing time.The new style of play looked more entertaining than last year and when the new players arrive which is only a matter of time it should lead to a good season of entertaining football Disappointing crowd today (Saturday) but so many people on holiday during the school holidays.and people leaving so early it's no wonder the crowd was looking so depleted at the final whistle.I think a lot of people thought with all the hype we would be in the premier league by now and if you didn't already have a season ticket you would be really lucky to get one. As for the food and drink department,I've never been a fan of junk food and beer out of a plastic glass (which is impossible to actually look like the real thing) I am quite happy to give that a miss and wait until I get back to my local
If we lose on Tuesday then we have really reached rock bottom and the only way is up
UTA
We need to play the same squad against Cheltenham on Tuesday as some of the players were not fit enough to play the 90 mins and need the playing time.The new style of play looked more entertaining than last year and when the new players arrive which is only a matter of time it should lead to a good season of entertaining football Disappointing crowd today (Saturday) but so many people on holiday during the school holidays.and people leaving so early it's no wonder the crowd was looking so depleted at the final whistle.I think a lot of people thought with all the hype we would be in the premier league by now and if you didn't already have a season ticket you would be really lucky to get one. As for the food and drink department,I've never been a fan of junk food and beer out of a plastic glass (which is impossible to actually look like the real thing) I am quite happy to give that a miss and wait until I get back to my local If we lose on Tuesday then we have really reached rock bottom and the only way is up UTA Newhavenles
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Sun 10 Aug 14

blue-eyed-boy says...

I thought the one positive was the system, at least we had 2 up front, the problem was more about the personnel lacking the quality to make it work, something that disappoints me s that fixture wise we've been handed a dream start, our first real test dos'nt come intill sept 27 away to Forest , that's 9 winable games, but if we have to wait for the end of the transfer window to have a team with the caperbillity to exploit this gift then our season could be over by the time we visit the Riverside.
I thought the one positive was the system, at least we had 2 up front, the problem was more about the personnel lacking the quality to make it work, something that disappoints me s that fixture wise we've been handed a dream start, our first real test dos'nt come intill sept 27 away to Forest , that's 9 winable games, but if we have to wait for the end of the transfer window to have a team with the caperbillity to exploit this gift then our season could be over by the time we visit the Riverside. blue-eyed-boy
  • Score: 10

12:24pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........



......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is:
The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches
Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday.
It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment!
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is: The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday. It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment! brightonup
  • Score: 7

12:26pm Sun 10 Aug 14

pablobrowno says...

Wolves agree fee with Leicester for Chris Wood! Were we in for him?

Ffs wood!!
Wolves agree fee with Leicester for Chris Wood! Were we in for him? Ffs wood!! pablobrowno
  • Score: 2

12:26pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Claude Back wrote:
Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average.
Actually, someone told me that three signings are imminent.
Baldock, Ward and Clayton are virtually done deals. You heard it here first.....or maybe last.
Hm, fair point but you can lve in hope or is it the Twilight Zone?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: Any news on the rumours circulating yesterday about Clayton being at the Amex? On yesterday's showing we certainly need him and his ability plus Ward to fill the left back spot and a proper centre forward - sorry I thought that on yesterday's performance O'Grady was no more that just about average.[/p][/quote]Actually, someone told me that three signings are imminent. Baldock, Ward and Clayton are virtually done deals. You heard it here first.....or maybe last.[/p][/quote]Hm, fair point but you can lve in hope or is it the Twilight Zone? Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 4

12:32pm Sun 10 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Ok, I shall no doubt get thumbs in the downward direction for this, but here we go.

We have been told for weeks that we are about to sign some key players, originally they would be in place before the first game. Now that has changed to 'by the close of the transfer window'. Similar sound bites that we heard in January, and pre-season last time out. We are told that it's hard to wrap the deals up, yet we witness the other promotion contenders do not appear to have this problem.

We are told all the clubs in the top two divisions have Directors of football, this title and specific job roles vary from one club to another. Man United liverpool and Arsenal for one, signings are done by the managers. Harry Rednapp, whether you like him or not, has full say on signings I imagine.

Finally, who was the last key player we really signed since Burke arrived? Ulloa signing, correct me if I am wrong, was being worked on before Burke's arrival? I don't think we could say; 'that player signed' in the last twelve months was a 'managers' suggestion. So I ask do you really have faith that key players will arrive before the window slams shut? Or will a couple more players in the mould of Kemy, Obika and co arrive instead.

I for one, and I feel angry at myself for thinking it, do not believe we will. I do not blame anyone specifically, as I can not review their daily activities at the club. However I do question the processes that are in place, are they really adding value to the club, can they be perceived as being successful when measured as a result?
Ok, I shall no doubt get thumbs in the downward direction for this, but here we go. We have been told for weeks that we are about to sign some key players, originally they would be in place before the first game. Now that has changed to 'by the close of the transfer window'. Similar sound bites that we heard in January, and pre-season last time out. We are told that it's hard to wrap the deals up, yet we witness the other promotion contenders do not appear to have this problem. We are told all the clubs in the top two divisions have Directors of football, this title and specific job roles vary from one club to another. Man United liverpool and Arsenal for one, signings are done by the managers. Harry Rednapp, whether you like him or not, has full say on signings I imagine. Finally, who was the last key player we really signed since Burke arrived? Ulloa signing, correct me if I am wrong, was being worked on before Burke's arrival? I don't think we could say; 'that player signed' in the last twelve months was a 'managers' suggestion. So I ask do you really have faith that key players will arrive before the window slams shut? Or will a couple more players in the mould of Kemy, Obika and co arrive instead. I for one, and I feel angry at myself for thinking it, do not believe we will. I do not blame anyone specifically, as I can not review their daily activities at the club. However I do question the processes that are in place, are they really adding value to the club, can they be perceived as being successful when measured as a result? taylord1977
  • Score: 8

12:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Max Ripple wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it.
It did not go right in the top corner, see video replay.

Maybe this sweeper keeper needs to master the basics first before trying to copy Manuel Neuer.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it.[/p][/quote]It did not go right in the top corner, see video replay. Maybe this sweeper keeper needs to master the basics first before trying to copy Manuel Neuer. ringtone
  • Score: -15

12:39pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Chi Gull says...

Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that.
We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much.
I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge.
Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage.
So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season.
Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that. We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much. I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge. Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage. So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season. Chi Gull
  • Score: 14

12:44pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ringtone says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that.
We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much.
I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge.
Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage.
So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season.
And we shall ignore your blatantly biased one-eyed version of events.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that. We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much. I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge. Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage. So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season.[/p][/quote]And we shall ignore your blatantly biased one-eyed version of events. ringtone
  • Score: -16

12:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

pte says...

When the going gets tough the tough get going
When the going gets tough the tough get going pte
  • Score: 0

1:02pm Sun 10 Aug 14

mark5 says...

Off thread, but what really surprised me was the superb support Wednesday enjoyed with their fans. Came in large numbers, we're extremely vocal with a decent number of songs and generally behaved like a set of fans believing that they were top of the league. Every corner was greeted with rapturous applause and expectation! Loudest support since Leeds, Yeovil and dare I say it Palace..............
....! By contrast the North Stand was very quiet and on this showing need to go on a refresher course, both in terms of noise and variety of songs. Do the crowd lift the players or does the team performance lift the fans........discuss.
.........!!
Off thread, but what really surprised me was the superb support Wednesday enjoyed with their fans. Came in large numbers, we're extremely vocal with a decent number of songs and generally behaved like a set of fans believing that they were top of the league. Every corner was greeted with rapturous applause and expectation! Loudest support since Leeds, Yeovil and dare I say it Palace.............. ....! By contrast the North Stand was very quiet and on this showing need to go on a refresher course, both in terms of noise and variety of songs. Do the crowd lift the players or does the team performance lift the fans........discuss. .........!! mark5
  • Score: 15

1:56pm Sun 10 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Going by what those that were at the game have to say, it sounds to me that our performance simply highlights what we, and the club already know, we need some quality brought in.
'We lacked a cutting edge,' I guess that's similar to, 'we need to be more clinical in front of goal,' nothing new about that, not even when we had Ulloa on the park.

Losing Crofts for the next three league matches is a bummer, but with luck losing him will spur our efforts to land Clayton in the coming hours/days.

A morale boosting cup match win mid week is now needed.
Going by what those that were at the game have to say, it sounds to me that our performance simply highlights what we, and the club already know, we need some quality brought in. 'We lacked a cutting edge,' I guess that's similar to, 'we need to be more clinical in front of goal,' nothing new about that, not even when we had Ulloa on the park. Losing Crofts for the next three league matches is a bummer, but with luck losing him will spur our efforts to land Clayton in the coming hours/days. A morale boosting cup match win mid week is now needed. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Sun 10 Aug 14

petegh says...

Max Ripple wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it.
I was right behind the flight of the ball and watched it go all the way... Stockdale didn't stand a chance.
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure why I'm bothering replying to you Ringtone, but it was fabulous shot curling AWAY from Stockdale. Personally I'd defy most keepers to get a hand to it.[/p][/quote]I was right behind the flight of the ball and watched it go all the way... Stockdale didn't stand a chance. petegh
  • Score: 4

2:18pm Sun 10 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

Here is my take! Disappointed obviously on my way home but after reflection would say that I thought before a ball was kicked that we would do well to get a draw because we all know that we are not a settled side,new manager,bla bla. I was surprised that CMS and Buckley did not start.It was a bad tackle so the red card was about right.Re the new recruits I thought Hughes had a good game,some of Stockdale's kicks were off target but otherwise good and COG just ok. I would like to have seen more of Sami on the touch line not just the stick like NJ!
But let's be positive - this will be a marathon not a sprint ,there is three weeks to sign additions and there is a loan window. I would start to worry if we are near the bottom after 12 or so games.
Here is my take! Disappointed obviously on my way home but after reflection would say that I thought before a ball was kicked that we would do well to get a draw because we all know that we are not a settled side,new manager,bla bla. I was surprised that CMS and Buckley did not start.It was a bad tackle so the red card was about right.Re the new recruits I thought Hughes had a good game,some of Stockdale's kicks were off target but otherwise good and COG just ok. I would like to have seen more of Sami on the touch line not just the stick like NJ! But let's be positive - this will be a marathon not a sprint ,there is three weeks to sign additions and there is a loan window. I would start to worry if we are near the bottom after 12 or so games. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 0

2:23pm Sun 10 Aug 14

tug509 says...

To baldly go wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........




......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm.
No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit!
It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo.
A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work!
Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season!
Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism ,being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter . UTA
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm. No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit! It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo. A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work! Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season![/p][/quote]Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism ,being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter . UTA tug509
  • Score: 7

2:30pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

jockithenoo wrote:
Albion fan in London wrote:
I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear!
Sorry have to pick up on this one. Firstly kaz didn't seem to have any pace looked slow, our midfielders had little impact on the game some of our passing was woeful. Our new keeper looked good better vision than TK nothing he could do about that goal. Our forwards got very little time on the ball but showed potential when they did.
We where still the best eleven/ten men on the pitch by far.
given time we will be a team .
WE MARCH ON
UTA
Kaz looked slow pretty much sums up your reply to my comment

UTA
[quote][p][bold]jockithenoo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion fan in London[/bold] wrote: I thought we played quite well. They didn't seem to want to pass for the sake of passing like last season. Kaz looked dangerous in a more central role. Once we get a few more in we will be up there. Keep the faith. Clayton is on his way I hear![/p][/quote]Sorry have to pick up on this one. Firstly kaz didn't seem to have any pace looked slow, our midfielders had little impact on the game some of our passing was woeful. Our new keeper looked good better vision than TK nothing he could do about that goal. Our forwards got very little time on the ball but showed potential when they did. We where still the best eleven/ten men on the pitch by far. given time we will be a team . WE MARCH ON UTA[/p][/quote]Kaz looked slow pretty much sums up your reply to my comment UTA Albion fan in London
  • Score: 6

2:40pm Sun 10 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress.
You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking.

LB. Ward would good. We should buy him.
RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad.
CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him
Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad.
CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season.

This in my mind would see us challenging.
I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress. You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking. LB. Ward would good. We should buy him. RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad. CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad. CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season. This in my mind would see us challenging. SMF20
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Going by what those that were at the game have to say, it sounds to me that our performance simply highlights what we, and the club already know, we need some quality brought in.
'We lacked a cutting edge,' I guess that's similar to, 'we need to be more clinical in front of goal,' nothing new about that, not even when we had Ulloa on the park.

Losing Crofts for the next three league matches is a bummer, but with luck losing him will spur our efforts to land Clayton in the coming hours/days.

A morale boosting cup match win mid week is now needed.
...I was at the game Vegas or are you still calling me an Aldrington Prior?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Going by what those that were at the game have to say, it sounds to me that our performance simply highlights what we, and the club already know, we need some quality brought in. 'We lacked a cutting edge,' I guess that's similar to, 'we need to be more clinical in front of goal,' nothing new about that, not even when we had Ulloa on the park. Losing Crofts for the next three league matches is a bummer, but with luck losing him will spur our efforts to land Clayton in the coming hours/days. A morale boosting cup match win mid week is now needed.[/p][/quote]...I was at the game Vegas or are you still calling me an Aldrington Prior? Conelli98
  • Score: 6

3:28pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

SMF20 wrote:
I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress.
You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking.

LB. Ward would good. We should buy him.
RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad.
CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him
Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad.
CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season.

This in my mind would see us challenging.
Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress. You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking. LB. Ward would good. We should buy him. RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad. CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad. CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season. This in my mind would see us challenging.[/p][/quote]Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!! Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 6

3:28pm Sun 10 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

tug509 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........





......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm.
No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit!
It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo.
A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work!
Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season!
Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism ,being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter . UTA
Not had chance to read anymore posts since my last post this morning just stopped on my way home, yer your right it is a good post, I don't need you to tell me tug i can read it myself, enjoy your afternoon!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm. No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit! It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo. A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work! Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season![/p][/quote]Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism ,being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter . UTA[/p][/quote]Not had chance to read anymore posts since my last post this morning just stopped on my way home, yer your right it is a good post, I don't need you to tell me tug i can read it myself, enjoy your afternoon!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Jonathan Mouette says...

Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments.
in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA
Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments. in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA Jonathan Mouette
  • Score: 4

4:05pm Sun 10 Aug 14

keswick says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress.
You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking.

LB. Ward would good. We should buy him.
RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad.
CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him
Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad.
CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season.

This in my mind would see us challenging.
Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!!
Remind me where Murray went to and why ??
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress. You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking. LB. Ward would good. We should buy him. RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad. CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad. CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season. This in my mind would see us challenging.[/p][/quote]Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!![/p][/quote]Remind me where Murray went to and why ?? keswick
  • Score: -3

4:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments.
in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA
All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments. in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA[/p][/quote]All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless brightonup
  • Score: 5

5:03pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

To baldly go wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........




......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm.
No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit!
It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo.
A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work!
Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!
Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season!
Excellent post Too BG with which I concur.
In Saturday's match programme TB asks us to judge how the club has done on the Transfer Recruitment front when the Transfer Window has closed, a request that I will go along with.
BUT I will pass judgement once it has. Like you TBG I won't be satisfied with only a couple of signings over the next 3 weeks.
Onwards and Upwards.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]All three of you need a reality check as well as others on here, yes we have started previous seasons with a loss, but it's the manor of yesterday's loss that causes concern! Not doom and gloom and yes, fans should support through thick and thin, but the writing is on the wall guys, the tactics were woeful, no natural left back (no disrespect to Caldi), where was the width? LuaLua playing inside was virtually ineffective, Buckley and Cms on the bench? Jfc has reached a peak and needs something to kick him on again! Fenelon is one for the future, but unless there is some investment in players, yesterdays squad/display could become the norm. No one can thank Tony Bloom enough for all he has done for the club and us fans, but it's an investment for him also, when the time comes and he sells the club he gets his money back plus a nice profit! It's the lack of commitment on the transfer front that gets us fans going, will one or two players in the next 3 weeks be enough! Doubtful! 4 or 5 are required imo. A change of tactics using players to their strengths might help, but that's up to Sammi, he might stick to his guns, but after yesterday's performance and that in pre season the tactics clearly don't work! Barber refers to us as customers and has a poor attitude when it comes to customer relations! He needs to remember the saying THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT! Loads of thumbs down coming my way judging by who's on here this morning, but ALL of us know unless things change it will be bottom six not top six where we will be fighting this season![/p][/quote]Excellent post Too BG with which I concur. In Saturday's match programme TB asks us to judge how the club has done on the Transfer Recruitment front when the Transfer Window has closed, a request that I will go along with. BUT I will pass judgement once it has. Like you TBG I won't be satisfied with only a couple of signings over the next 3 weeks. Onwards and Upwards. ballantrrae
  • Score: 6

5:09pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ringtone says...

keswick wrote:
Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress.
You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking.

LB. Ward would good. We should buy him.
RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad.
CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him
Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad.
CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season.

This in my mind would see us challenging.
Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!!
Remind me where Murray went to and why ??
To Palace, cos the suits would not pay him the wages he deserved, yet went out and wasted a couple of million on cms.
[quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I've put my thoughts about yesterday on the video thread but in my mind the following are very much needed to progress. You'll see I've added a right back... I think this due to our new system which makes them pivotal when attacking. LB. Ward would good. We should buy him. RB. Kelly on loan from Liverpool. I don't think he will make their squad. CM. Clayton. We need creativity. We should buy him Wingers. Ibe and Lingard. Both have bags of potential and unlikely to make squad. CF. This will hopefully be our priority and see us spending money... Perhaps Soriano or Vossen. Maybe Carlton Cole for a season. This in my mind would see us challenging.[/p][/quote]Glenn Murray would do a job and not have to move house!!![/p][/quote]Remind me where Murray went to and why ??[/p][/quote]To Palace, cos the suits would not pay him the wages he deserved, yet went out and wasted a couple of million on cms. ringtone
  • Score: -6

5:11pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

We know there are players coming in and we also know the window closes very soon so once these players are signed JFC and make shift left backs will be a thing of the past.

We are wise waiting to get the right players in as frustrating as it is the windows closing date is ludicrous. Why does it not end in July!?
We know there are players coming in and we also know the window closes very soon so once these players are signed JFC and make shift left backs will be a thing of the past. We are wise waiting to get the right players in as frustrating as it is the windows closing date is ludicrous. Why does it not end in July!? Albion fan in London
  • Score: 5

5:47pm Sun 10 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

brightonup wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments.
in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA
All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless
,”being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter”
Absolutely true, but I think we have got to ask ourselves if this is the place to be critical. All it does is give trolls from palace and other clubs ammunition. I have been reading the post on here long enough to know a few threads down the line they will take the criticism and use it to wind genuine but gullible supporters up, run the club down and cause as much discontent as they can. Sadly time and time again the bait is taken. This is an open and largely unregulated comments section. Cause what other genuine fans post is up to them but I am not going to give the trolls anything. I save my criticism for regulated forums or when I know I am only talking to genuine fans.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments. in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA[/p][/quote]All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless[/p][/quote],”being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter” Absolutely true, but I think we have got to ask ourselves if this is the place to be critical. All it does is give trolls from palace and other clubs ammunition. I have been reading the post on here long enough to know a few threads down the line they will take the criticism and use it to wind genuine but gullible supporters up, run the club down and cause as much discontent as they can. Sadly time and time again the bait is taken. This is an open and largely unregulated comments section. Cause what other genuine fans post is up to them but I am not going to give the trolls anything. I save my criticism for regulated forums or when I know I am only talking to genuine fans. championshipgull
  • Score: 4

6:09pm Sun 10 Aug 14

gordongull says...

Cool heads are not what is required.
Some quality players are what is required.
Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.''
The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't.
WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic.
Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean.
They are not the subject I am writing about.
The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs.
But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy!
The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.''
Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault.
The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment.
Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.
Cool heads are not what is required. Some quality players are what is required. Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.'' The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't. WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic. Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean. They are not the subject I am writing about. The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs. But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy! The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.'' Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault. The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment. Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues. gordongull
  • Score: 5

6:16pm Sun 10 Aug 14

tug509 says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments.
in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA
Hi JM ,
yep I do hang my nose out like a petulant pup waiting to have it smacked with a rolled up newspaper ,or at least that's what it seems like sometimes.
I would love to join the ranks of eternal optimists ,but unfortunately that would require a certain amount of trust and proof that we will see the promised quality arrive ,and maybe it will ,but for some time now all signings of quality have been going in the other direction ,I hope it all works out ,but I will never understand why we seem to be the only team in 24 that cant get it right ,I`ve always considered The Albion unique ,but that's not what I had in mind !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments. in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA[/p][/quote]Hi JM , yep I do hang my nose out like a petulant pup waiting to have it smacked with a rolled up newspaper ,or at least that's what it seems like sometimes. I would love to join the ranks of eternal optimists ,but unfortunately that would require a certain amount of trust and proof that we will see the promised quality arrive ,and maybe it will ,but for some time now all signings of quality have been going in the other direction ,I hope it all works out ,but I will never understand why we seem to be the only team in 24 that cant get it right ,I`ve always considered The Albion unique ,but that's not what I had in mind !. UTA tug509
  • Score: 5

6:27pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

I see the first Championship manager has left his job.
Huddersfield Town part company with manager Mark Robins after yesterdays defeat to Bournemouth.
I wonder who will be bext.
Expect 5 or 6 Championship bosses to have gone by Xmas - wouldnt be surprised if Hyypia is one of them, though I expect him to walk rather than be pushed.
I see the first Championship manager has left his job. Huddersfield Town part company with manager Mark Robins after yesterdays defeat to Bournemouth. I wonder who will be bext. Expect 5 or 6 Championship bosses to have gone by Xmas - wouldnt be surprised if Hyypia is one of them, though I expect him to walk rather than be pushed. sussexram40
  • Score: -8

6:32pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

championshipgull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments.
in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA
All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless
,”being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter”
Absolutely true, but I think we have got to ask ourselves if this is the place to be critical. All it does is give trolls from palace and other clubs ammunition. I have been reading the post on here long enough to know a few threads down the line they will take the criticism and use it to wind genuine but gullible supporters up, run the club down and cause as much discontent as they can. Sadly time and time again the bait is taken. This is an open and largely unregulated comments section. Cause what other genuine fans post is up to them but I am not going to give the trolls anything. I save my criticism for regulated forums or when I know I am only talking to genuine fans.
Good points, well made!
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Tug, you risk the wrath of the 'hear no evil, see no evil and certainly say no evil' brigade with your comments. in case others have forgotten they were 'Well said TBG ,Now that's a good post Jeff , no doom or gloom ,no blind faith ,just honest realism, being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter'. Sometimes the pure simple truth can be brutally painful but it needs to be said. UTA[/p][/quote]All true, as long as the criticism is constructive and balanced rather than vitriolic and purposeless[/p][/quote],”being critical doesn`t automatically exclude you from being a true supporter ,it means your willing to use common sense and think for yourself ,not be blindly lead by a salesmans patter” Absolutely true, but I think we have got to ask ourselves if this is the place to be critical. All it does is give trolls from palace and other clubs ammunition. I have been reading the post on here long enough to know a few threads down the line they will take the criticism and use it to wind genuine but gullible supporters up, run the club down and cause as much discontent as they can. Sadly time and time again the bait is taken. This is an open and largely unregulated comments section. Cause what other genuine fans post is up to them but I am not going to give the trolls anything. I save my criticism for regulated forums or when I know I am only talking to genuine fans.[/p][/quote]Good points, well made! brightonup
  • Score: 3

6:33pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

....and we have a troll fishing at this very moment.
....and we have a troll fishing at this very moment. brightonup
  • Score: 1

6:38pm Sun 10 Aug 14

tug509 says...

gordongull wrote:
Cool heads are not what is required.
Some quality players are what is required.
Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.''
The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't.
WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic.
Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean.
They are not the subject I am writing about.
The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs.
But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy!
The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.''
Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault.
The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment.
Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.
Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts .
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Cool heads are not what is required. Some quality players are what is required. Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.'' The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't. WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic. Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean. They are not the subject I am writing about. The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs. But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy! The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.'' Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault. The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment. Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.[/p][/quote]Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts . tug509
  • Score: 4

7:01pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

tug509 wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Cool heads are not what is required.
Some quality players are what is required.
Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.''
The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't.
WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic.
Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean.
They are not the subject I am writing about.
The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs.
But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy!
The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.''
Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault.
The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment.
Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.
Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts .
Are there any POSITIVE trolls?
Evidence?
Some good reflection here - and we know we need top quality recruits immediately.

I am going with TB's statement that he thinks 'we will be pleased with the additions to the squad' made by the end of the month.
Let's see how the results, tactics etc pan out - and what impact the new acquisitions make.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Cool heads are not what is required. Some quality players are what is required. Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.'' The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't. WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic. Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean. They are not the subject I am writing about. The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs. But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy! The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.'' Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault. The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment. Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.[/p][/quote]Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts .[/p][/quote]Are there any POSITIVE trolls? Evidence? Some good reflection here - and we know we need top quality recruits immediately. I am going with TB's statement that he thinks 'we will be pleased with the additions to the squad' made by the end of the month. Let's see how the results, tactics etc pan out - and what impact the new acquisitions make. brightonup
  • Score: 2

7:35pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

sussexram40 wrote:
I see the first Championship manager has left his job.
Huddersfield Town part company with manager Mark Robins after yesterdays defeat to Bournemouth.
I wonder who will be bext.
Expect 5 or 6 Championship bosses to have gone by Xmas - wouldnt be surprised if Hyypia is one of them, though I expect him to walk rather than be pushed.
Yes it'll be interesting to see how this affects the Clayton situation. Heard a rumour that Neil Lennon is in the frame for Huddersfield so that may mean Clayton stays. Personally I think he's overpriced and not quite the quality we need, a familiar story at the albion eg CMS but we've left it so late we're hardly picking the cream of the crop. Hey Ho let's see what tomorrow brings.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: I see the first Championship manager has left his job. Huddersfield Town part company with manager Mark Robins after yesterdays defeat to Bournemouth. I wonder who will be bext. Expect 5 or 6 Championship bosses to have gone by Xmas - wouldnt be surprised if Hyypia is one of them, though I expect him to walk rather than be pushed.[/p][/quote]Yes it'll be interesting to see how this affects the Clayton situation. Heard a rumour that Neil Lennon is in the frame for Huddersfield so that may mean Clayton stays. Personally I think he's overpriced and not quite the quality we need, a familiar story at the albion eg CMS but we've left it so late we're hardly picking the cream of the crop. Hey Ho let's see what tomorrow brings. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -10

7:36pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sssuuueee says...

The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever.
How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know.
Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards.
I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense.
Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems.
My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further.
No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.
The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever. How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know. Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards. I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense. Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems. My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further. No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order. sssuuueee
  • Score: -8

7:39pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

brightonup wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........




......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is:
The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches
Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday.
It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment!
Crumbs! Could you be any more arrogant?
Pots...kettles?
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is: The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday. It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment![/p][/quote]Crumbs! Could you be any more arrogant? Pots...kettles? Claude Back
  • Score: 0

8:10pm Sun 10 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Claude Back wrote:
brightonup wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
petegh wrote:
mark5 wrote:
"We are still building"...........





......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA
Well said.

It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website.

A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now.

OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair.

It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves.

The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair.

Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football.

Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.
Two good posts, both spot on!!
Up the Albion!!
You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is:
The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches
Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday.
It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment!
Crumbs! Could you be any more arrogant?
Pots...kettles?
Not sure I understand the point you are making...
Do you class yourself as arrogant - or are you accusing me of that vice?
Aren't people allowed to disagree with your view without you being so thin skinned as to chuck insults at them?
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petegh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark5[/bold] wrote: "We are still building"........... ......these are the key words! Yes, it was disappointing to lose, and not have the key quality players in yet to make us competitive. But I say YET and I will not succumb to the common belief that Bloom is cost cutting and putting the season in jeopardy. It makes no sense at all for a businessman of his stature to take that route. There will be new faces coming over the next few weeks and these will be the quality that we want to make us competitive for a top 6 finish. If not, I will hold my hands up, shake my head in disbelief and prepare for a lower mid table finish! However, in my book I think that is very unlikely. So let us keep the faith. UTA[/p][/quote]Well said. It’s been a poor performance so far by so-called-supporters on other stories on this website. A true Brighton fan would not be attacking Tony Bloom right now. OK, real fans have every right to criticise the team, but let’s be fair. It wasn’t a particularly good performance by the Seagulls but Coke did score a superb goal for Wednesday against the run of play, and Westwood pulled off two very good saves. The effort put in by the Seagulls during the final 40 minutes after Crofts’s slightly dubious sending off, should be praised. Greer’s in particular. A good captain’s gritty performance. Indeed, the team didn’t look like it was one man short. The BBC website report is fair. Brighton lost the opening game last season and the season before and ended up in the play-offs. They were unbeaten in their first six games in the Championship 2011-2012 and finished 10th. That’s football. Get over it. Give Hyypia a chance.[/p][/quote]Two good posts, both spot on!! Up the Albion!![/p][/quote]You will always get posters on here who under the guise of 'telling it like it is' will dramatically overstate the negative case , the characters who claim to be some way associated with the business of (or make money from) football. They tend to be superior about their football knowledge and when you question their opinion they refer to that superior knowledge and experience rather than justifying their position. Okay, rant over! The point is: The side has insufficient quality to compete successfully at this level. True, but more signings are imminent and we can judge their effectiveness in coming matches Hyypia got the tactics and team wrong. Maybe, but it is highly insulting of these the many armchair managers on this site to assume that he will not adjust his tactics and team in the light of what he saw yesterday. It's time to stop the disspiriting histrionics and start making constructive comment![/p][/quote]Crumbs! Could you be any more arrogant? Pots...kettles?[/p][/quote]Not sure I understand the point you are making... Do you class yourself as arrogant - or are you accusing me of that vice? Aren't people allowed to disagree with your view without you being so thin skinned as to chuck insults at them? brightonup
  • Score: 4

8:25pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

sssuuueee wrote:
The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever.
How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know.
Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards.
I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense.
Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems.
My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further.
No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.
Outstanding post also contact the Argus if you get the time.Its a disgrace the way Dunk & JFC talk around young women.Its time the Argus looked into their knew 4 year contracts on double the money.Do any fans really believe Sammi had any say in it lol haha.
[quote][p][bold]sssuuueee[/bold] wrote: The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever. How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know. Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards. I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense. Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems. My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further. No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.[/p][/quote]Outstanding post also contact the Argus if you get the time.Its a disgrace the way Dunk & JFC talk around young women.Its time the Argus looked into their knew 4 year contracts on double the money.Do any fans really believe Sammi had any say in it lol haha. Please wake up
  • Score: -10

8:29pm Sun 10 Aug 14

rhett butler says...

Caldi league 1 jfc league 1 fenelon league 1 agustien probably league 2 cms league 1 that's 5 replacements urgently needed THE FIVE I WOULD BRING IN ARE WARD JENKINSON CLAYTON KOSTIC AND BECCHIO AND A SIXTH WOULD BE LINGARD!!
Caldi league 1 jfc league 1 fenelon league 1 agustien probably league 2 cms league 1 that's 5 replacements urgently needed THE FIVE I WOULD BRING IN ARE WARD JENKINSON CLAYTON KOSTIC AND BECCHIO AND A SIXTH WOULD BE LINGARD!! rhett butler
  • Score: -1

8:50pm Sun 10 Aug 14

scottishb;ue says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich.

Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance.

Red card was correct, dangerous play.
I don't know from which vantage point you were looking from,but from mine, lower west dead on the halfway line I would say he can't be blamed, I think if the player were to be honest it was meant as a curled cross hit first time as he ran on to it, the ball both curled and looped over, he could have been lucky and the ball hit the flailed arm that he through up in hope, but that would have made a fluke save look fantastic, I for one felt the goalkeeper was one of the positives, in what was a poor performance against an equally poor side.
Ringtone would know as he never goes to the game always sitting next o his phone playing with his ringtone lol
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Sign Mcgoldrick from ipswich. Am i the only one who thinks stockdale could have done better with the goal, maybe time to give walton a chance. Red card was correct, dangerous play.[/p][/quote]I don't know from which vantage point you were looking from,but from mine, lower west dead on the halfway line I would say he can't be blamed, I think if the player were to be honest it was meant as a curled cross hit first time as he ran on to it, the ball both curled and looped over, he could have been lucky and the ball hit the flailed arm that he through up in hope, but that would have made a fluke save look fantastic, I for one felt the goalkeeper was one of the positives, in what was a poor performance against an equally poor side.[/p][/quote]Ringtone would know as he never goes to the game always sitting next o his phone playing with his ringtone lol scottishb;ue
  • Score: -2

9:06pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Baldseagull says...

rhett butler wrote:
Caldi league 1 jfc league 1 fenelon league 1 agustien probably league 2 cms league 1 that's 5 replacements urgently needed THE FIVE I WOULD BRING IN ARE WARD JENKINSON CLAYTON KOSTIC AND BECCHIO AND A SIXTH WOULD BE LINGARD!!
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a **** for your opinion.
[quote][p][bold]rhett butler[/bold] wrote: Caldi league 1 jfc league 1 fenelon league 1 agustien probably league 2 cms league 1 that's 5 replacements urgently needed THE FIVE I WOULD BRING IN ARE WARD JENKINSON CLAYTON KOSTIC AND BECCHIO AND A SIXTH WOULD BE LINGARD!![/p][/quote]Frankly, my dear, I don't give a **** for your opinion. Baldseagull
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Sun 10 Aug 14

mark5 says...

sssuuueee wrote:
The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever.
How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know.
Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards.
I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense.
Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems.
My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further.
No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.
Ha, ha, ha, and so begins another form of trolling!! Quite good really, has got some unwittingly agreeing to the sentiment! Looking forward to more of this to keep me amused amidst the misery before the quality players arrive and save our season..............
...............!! UTA.
[quote][p][bold]sssuuueee[/bold] wrote: The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever. How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know. Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards. I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense. Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems. My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further. No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha, ha, and so begins another form of trolling!! Quite good really, has got some unwittingly agreeing to the sentiment! Looking forward to more of this to keep me amused amidst the misery before the quality players arrive and save our season.............. ...............!! UTA. mark5
  • Score: 3

9:19pm Sun 10 Aug 14

driverchris53 says...

We cannot judge too much on one performance and we can hope the promise of more players is forthcoming;but yesterday wasn't encouraging.
The squad is miles down on the one that finished last season;if you accept players like Maksimenko,Chicksen,
Fenelon,Agustien are not really challenging for a long term first team spot we really only have a squad of 16 or so players.CMS is a way from being the player we know he can be;Stephens is out for who knows how long.At least 3 or 4 new ones are needed badly.Hopefully some will come in over next few weeks.Also i thought it was a terrible tackle by Andrew Crofts and he fully deserved his red card
We cannot judge too much on one performance and we can hope the promise of more players is forthcoming;but yesterday wasn't encouraging. The squad is miles down on the one that finished last season;if you accept players like Maksimenko,Chicksen, Fenelon,Agustien are not really challenging for a long term first team spot we really only have a squad of 16 or so players.CMS is a way from being the player we know he can be;Stephens is out for who knows how long.At least 3 or 4 new ones are needed badly.Hopefully some will come in over next few weeks.Also i thought it was a terrible tackle by Andrew Crofts and he fully deserved his red card driverchris53
  • Score: -1

9:25pm Sun 10 Aug 14

mark5 says...

brightonup wrote:
tug509 wrote:
gordongull wrote:
Cool heads are not what is required.
Some quality players are what is required.
Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.''
The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't.
WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic.
Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean.
They are not the subject I am writing about.
The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs.
But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy!
The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.''
Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault.
The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment.
Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.
Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts .
Are there any POSITIVE trolls?
Evidence?
Some good reflection here - and we know we need top quality recruits immediately.

I am going with TB's statement that he thinks 'we will be pleased with the additions to the squad' made by the end of the month.
Let's see how the results, tactics etc pan out - and what impact the new acquisitions make.
So am I and yes, let's see.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: Cool heads are not what is required. Some quality players are what is required. Someone said a few days ago on here that there was no cause for concern, because ''The season doesn't start until September 1st when everyone has their squads sorted out.'' The only problem is that a lot of teams HAVE got their squads sorted out, and by September 1st, those teams are going to be 8 or 10 points ahead of those who haven't. WE are one of the teams who haven't, and we will be fortunate to get 5 points before the transfer window closes. That would be a win, two draws and a defeat, which might be a bit over-optimistic. Before I get a barrage of protest from the Positive Trolls, I know we have a new stadium and state-of-the-art- training facilities, and we have come a long way since Gillingham and the Withdean. They are not the subject I am writing about. The subject is why are we deliberately conceding a probable 8 or 10 points at this stage of the season? If we had been handed a ten point deduction by the Football League, we would have serious concerns over whether we could retain our status in this Division, never mind get to the play-offs. But we are handing ourselves a 10 point deduction as a matter of club policy! The Suits, (for want of a better word), might have an aptitude for reading a balance sheet, but when it comes to assessing what is required to succeed in what is one of the most competitive Leagues in world football, they are woefully out of their depth. The weaknesses in the squad are painfully evident, and there is the additional issue of a new manager trying to introduce new ideas. Sami needed support in these areas, but it looks like he has been told, ''Go with what you've got and we'll see if we need anyone at the end of the month.'' Where the Suits have abjectly failed in their responsibilities, is by not providing the resources for Sami to get replacements for all the high quality players at this level who have left. Money is apparently available, but it isn't going to win any games sitting in a bank vault. The job would still be a difficult one for a new manager even with those playing resources signed in time for the start of the season, but Sami has clearly been stitched up over player recruitment. Meanwhile the salesman placates us with platitudes in an attempt to cover up the inadequacies of he and his colleagues.[/p][/quote]Another terrific post totally based on those annoying little facts .[/p][/quote]Are there any POSITIVE trolls? Evidence? Some good reflection here - and we know we need top quality recruits immediately. I am going with TB's statement that he thinks 'we will be pleased with the additions to the squad' made by the end of the month. Let's see how the results, tactics etc pan out - and what impact the new acquisitions make.[/p][/quote]So am I and yes, let's see. mark5
  • Score: 3

10:37pm Sun 10 Aug 14

barnieb says...

Barry W wrote:
I am a true fan of over 50 years,and so I feel I can comment on how MY money is wasted on some signings (Remy,Obika,Lita) and others but the board seems to be prepared to lose points at the start of the season to try to save a few pounds by leaving transfers/loans until the last minute.
Perhaps for example the extra £3k on Ward would have got us 3 points.Would that have been money well spent ? Your opinion please.
Yep,agree,for the first time at the Amex,we could actually start with a home game that didn't clash with Gay Pride. We lose to a second rate team that will struggle in this division and in all likeleyhood be relegated.Interestin
g that comments are saying 'its only the first game' wonder if they will still be saying that if we miss promotion,or play-offs by 1,2 or 3 points,come the end of the season.Whatever way you look at it ,this was 3 points dropped and could prove to be the difference between Premier League football and another year languishing in the Championship.
[quote][p][bold]Barry W[/bold] wrote: I am a true fan of over 50 years,and so I feel I can comment on how MY money is wasted on some signings (Remy,Obika,Lita) and others but the board seems to be prepared to lose points at the start of the season to try to save a few pounds by leaving transfers/loans until the last minute. Perhaps for example the extra £3k on Ward would have got us 3 points.Would that have been money well spent ? Your opinion please.[/p][/quote]Yep,agree,for the first time at the Amex,we could actually start with a home game that didn't clash with Gay Pride. We lose to a second rate team that will struggle in this division and in all likeleyhood be relegated.Interestin g that comments are saying 'its only the first game' wonder if they will still be saying that if we miss promotion,or play-offs by 1,2 or 3 points,come the end of the season.Whatever way you look at it ,this was 3 points dropped and could prove to be the difference between Premier League football and another year languishing in the Championship. barnieb
  • Score: 1

9:39pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that.
We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much.
I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge.
Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage.
So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season.
Absolutely spot on to the letter!
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Interesting how people watching the same game have such different opinions of it - and I am ignoring the usual WUMs in saying that. We were the better team up to the goal. We had the better chances even with 10 men. I quite liked the attacking wing back system but it does mean Kaz playing more inside, which isn't his strength, but he might grow into the role. It also means the likes of Crofts can't get forward as much. I thought the back four and Ince were good with Greer outstanding. The goal was out of nothing - 99 times out 100 it wouldn't have ended up where it did. Stockdale had hardly anything to do. The sending off was a little harsh, but JFC was lucky to still be on the pitch after his 2nd rash challenge. Up front it was the same old story. Lack of real quality and a failure to take the chances and half chances that came our way, but at least we created some. The last 10-15 minutes were disappointing as the 3 front players became isolated and Wednesday held possession quite easily with the one man advantage. So disappointing, but not a total disaster. We will finish above Wednesday come the end of the season.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on to the letter! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

11:37am Fri 15 Aug 14

Captain Haddock says...

sssuuueee wrote:
The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever.
How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know.
Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards.
I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense.
Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems.
My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further.
No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.
Pipe down, Palace!
[quote][p][bold]sssuuueee[/bold] wrote: The trouble is that half of the players are not very clever. How anyone could pay to see that trash I don't know. Swearing fans, bad management and I heard there was trouble in the town afterwards. I know some upstanding gentleman who went yesterday and they shouldn't have to tolerate this nonsense. Im writing to the council over yesterday's disgraceful seems. My daughter has gave me a full account of the facts and I'm taking this a lot further. No one at the club seems to care about our community .Disgrace of the highest order.[/p][/quote]Pipe down, Palace! Captain Haddock
  • Score: 0

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