Video highlights - Albion lose to Owls

Bruno joins an attack versus Wednesday

Bruno joins an attack versus Wednesday

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Albion suffered a disappointing start to their new campaign.

Now see how they were sent to a 1-0 defeat by Sheffield Wednesday.

Giles Coke flashed a winner high past debut goalkeeper David Stockdale.

Andrew Crofts was later sent off before Chris O'Grady went close to equalising.

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12:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Weploughandmow says...

On the plus side, it highlights where we need to strengthen while we've still go time to do so. Thought O'Grady was a bit unlucky with his chance - didn't do much wrong, goalkeeper did well.
On the plus side, it highlights where we need to strengthen while we've still go time to do so. Thought O'Grady was a bit unlucky with his chance - didn't do much wrong, goalkeeper did well. Weploughandmow
  • Score: 10

1:41pm Sun 10 Aug 14

stonegold says...

Stockdale - nothing to do (other than pick that mis-hit cross out of the net)
Bruno - erratic and error-prone (no change there then)
Greer - calm and in control throughout (ditto)
Hughes - accomplished League debut; real tests still to come though
Calderon - typically wholehearted performance; he's no left back though
Crofts - neat and tidy until harshly sent off
Ince - still lacks brain-feet co-ordination; remains a raw talent
Forster-Caskey - ineffective; lack of pace will continue to hold him back
Lua Lua - less effective in narrower role; too often easily crowded out
Fenelon - out of his depth
O'Grady - looked ordinary
Agustien - what's the point?
Buckley - again, narrower role doesn't suit
Mackail-Smith - should have been on earlier (i.e. from the start)

Heard a rumour that Sami Hyypia was at the game - anybody spot him?
Stockdale - nothing to do (other than pick that mis-hit cross out of the net) Bruno - erratic and error-prone (no change there then) Greer - calm and in control throughout (ditto) Hughes - accomplished League debut; real tests still to come though Calderon - typically wholehearted performance; he's no left back though Crofts - neat and tidy until harshly sent off Ince - still lacks brain-feet co-ordination; remains a raw talent Forster-Caskey - ineffective; lack of pace will continue to hold him back Lua Lua - less effective in narrower role; too often easily crowded out Fenelon - out of his depth O'Grady - looked ordinary Agustien - what's the point? Buckley - again, narrower role doesn't suit Mackail-Smith - should have been on earlier (i.e. from the start) Heard a rumour that Sami Hyypia was at the game - anybody spot him? stonegold
  • Score: 10

1:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 13

2:08pm Sun 10 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2.
Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2. SMF20
  • Score: 18

3:33pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Nobody important says...

Ok we did not play well but SW had one shot on target (if you can call it a shot)..... We created more chances than them. It's difficult with 10 men. It's not the end of the world. Plenty more games in the season ahead. Keep positive :)
Ok we did not play well but SW had one shot on target (if you can call it a shot)..... We created more chances than them. It's difficult with 10 men. It's not the end of the world. Plenty more games in the season ahead. Keep positive :) Nobody important
  • Score: 4

3:41pm Sun 10 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match.
Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer.

14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements.
Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez.

I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta[/p][/quote]whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match. Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer. 14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements. Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez. I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

3:58pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match.
Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer.

14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements.
Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez.

I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.
what a yawn.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta[/p][/quote]whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match. Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer. 14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements. Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez. I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.[/p][/quote]what a yawn. ringtone
  • Score: -5

4:13pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

2 plus points

We don't have to worry about our unbeaten home record anymore.
Fish and chips van outside ground

On a more serious note it's early days so no need to panic just yet. UTA
2 plus points We don't have to worry about our unbeaten home record anymore. Fish and chips van outside ground On a more serious note it's early days so no need to panic just yet. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 5

4:17pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Another plus point

We won't get a referee as bad, again, this season. I hope. UTA
Another plus point We won't get a referee as bad, again, this season. I hope. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 4

4:28pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!!
Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!! Conelli98
  • Score: 2

4:40pm Sun 10 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

SMF20 wrote:
Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2.
Good point SMF20. Like you I would be happier if SH had an experienced No 2 and if we had brought in one or two more players by now.
TB asks us to judge the club's player recruitment success once the Transfer Window has closed. All right then let's do as he requests but however much he praises Burke and his team I still hope that TB's faith in them proves justified.
I wouldn't still have any remaining concerns regarding player signings if we were only wanting to acquire another couple of players rather than the 5 or so we currently require as evidenced by yesterday's performance. (One small comment about yesterday's game. I felt we played more positively and with more 'wit' once we went down to 10 players.)
We are however where we are but I think that SH needs as much time as possible to integrate into the squad any of the potential new signings TB referred to especially as SH's playing style is quite different from what we have seen in the last few seasons. Therefore the sooner the signing targets are recruited the better. Hopefully SH will be able to use the International break in early September to get everything bedded down.
The next few weeks should be interesting. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2.[/p][/quote]Good point SMF20. Like you I would be happier if SH had an experienced No 2 and if we had brought in one or two more players by now. TB asks us to judge the club's player recruitment success once the Transfer Window has closed. All right then let's do as he requests but however much he praises Burke and his team I still hope that TB's faith in them proves justified. I wouldn't still have any remaining concerns regarding player signings if we were only wanting to acquire another couple of players rather than the 5 or so we currently require as evidenced by yesterday's performance. (One small comment about yesterday's game. I felt we played more positively and with more 'wit' once we went down to 10 players.) We are however where we are but I think that SH needs as much time as possible to integrate into the squad any of the potential new signings TB referred to especially as SH's playing style is quite different from what we have seen in the last few seasons. Therefore the sooner the signing targets are recruited the better. Hopefully SH will be able to use the International break in early September to get everything bedded down. The next few weeks should be interesting. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

5:21pm Sun 10 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match.
Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer.

14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements.
Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez.

I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.
Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card.
You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart.
5 players needed ..
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta[/p][/quote]whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match. Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer. 14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements. Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez. I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.[/p][/quote]Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card. You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart. 5 players needed .. mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

5:43pm Sun 10 Aug 14

namgo49 says...

Having been at the game, north west corner, and watching the highlight on the FL show and again on this article, it confirms what I initially thought that Stockdale was poorly positioned and should have done better with the goal attempt that got the victory for Wednesday. Would TK have been caught out in the same way, simply no. His counterpart and potential Albion signing had two or three shots to save and made all of them. Did we get the wrong man costing a mill+ when we maybe could have got Westwood on a free.

As is, the team was caught napping with a quickly taken free kick and Wednesday players free all over the place. Really poor goal to concede against a side that otherwise threatened absolutely zip and will surely be one of this season’s strugglers.

Apart from the usual crop of errors from Bruno, the back four were pretty solid and in truth defensively had little to do.

The midfield is where we are so so poor. Forster-Caskey, he of the new three year deal, is only good for modelling the shirts, not playing in this league. Crofts had his usual energetic game but is now banned for the next three. Lualua showed again why he should never be selected from the off, impact player only. Ince, who only got a 2 ½ year deal showed again he is a class above the other DS players coming through. Decent game one or two wayward moments. Agustein brought nothing to the game other than a body that does not look to be anywhere near the peak of physical condition it should be. Poor distribution, slow. Buckley couldn’t be bothered and was virtually anonymous.

Up front, I thought O’Grady had a decent game and will be a useful acquisition. Fenelon, who, no doubt will shortly be offered a long term 3 to 4 year contract extension, was completely out of his depth and wholly ineffectual. Why was he allowed 60 minutes. The selection error should have been sorted out at the latest by ½ time and CMS brought on. He cut a sad lonely figure warming up waiting for his chance which did not happen until 15 minutes from the end. Him and O’Grady will be a good pairing given the chance.

March, four year contract, not on the bench even, is he injured? I rate Dunk, but a four year contract, really. We have to accept that too much investment is going in to the DS at the expense of the now situation. In consequence, even if this investment pays off it will be four to five year before we see some dividends. What league will the club be in then and will the income stream still be there, I seriously doubt it. We had the third biggest gate in the division yesterday behind Derby and Forest, but down on last year which is the crucial part. The majority of fans are fickle and will only want to see a winning team. With the attendances now and the high cost of tickets I really do not understand why we cannot get some decent talent in.

Draw/defeat on Tuesday and defeat on Saturday to Birmingham, like Wednesday, another poor side in this Division, will see the skids well and truly under the club. I pay a grand a season to follow the club I have supported since 1960. Dear old Dick Knight saw us through the darkest of days without having two halfpennies for a penny yet with everything now in place the current non-coaching/playing staff seem to making a right hash of it.

At our food/drink kiosk just one lad serving, not a clue what he was doing. Then, the final insult was being told we could not leave by the usual exit stairs , no reason given, so would have to leave with the masses trying to get down through the terracing to ground level. The club needs to realise it is in the entertainment industry where the customer has every right to expect to be king!!
Having been at the game, north west corner, and watching the highlight on the FL show and again on this article, it confirms what I initially thought that Stockdale was poorly positioned and should have done better with the goal attempt that got the victory for Wednesday. Would TK have been caught out in the same way, simply no. His counterpart and potential Albion signing had two or three shots to save and made all of them. Did we get the wrong man costing a mill+ when we maybe could have got Westwood on a free. As is, the team was caught napping with a quickly taken free kick and Wednesday players free all over the place. Really poor goal to concede against a side that otherwise threatened absolutely zip and will surely be one of this season’s strugglers. Apart from the usual crop of errors from Bruno, the back four were pretty solid and in truth defensively had little to do. The midfield is where we are so so poor. Forster-Caskey, he of the new three year deal, is only good for modelling the shirts, not playing in this league. Crofts had his usual energetic game but is now banned for the next three. Lualua showed again why he should never be selected from the off, impact player only. Ince, who only got a 2 ½ year deal showed again he is a class above the other DS players coming through. Decent game one or two wayward moments. Agustein brought nothing to the game other than a body that does not look to be anywhere near the peak of physical condition it should be. Poor distribution, slow. Buckley couldn’t be bothered and was virtually anonymous. Up front, I thought O’Grady had a decent game and will be a useful acquisition. Fenelon, who, no doubt will shortly be offered a long term 3 to 4 year contract extension, was completely out of his depth and wholly ineffectual. Why was he allowed 60 minutes. The selection error should have been sorted out at the latest by ½ time and CMS brought on. He cut a sad lonely figure warming up waiting for his chance which did not happen until 15 minutes from the end. Him and O’Grady will be a good pairing given the chance. March, four year contract, not on the bench even, is he injured? I rate Dunk, but a four year contract, really. We have to accept that too much investment is going in to the DS at the expense of the now situation. In consequence, even if this investment pays off it will be four to five year before we see some dividends. What league will the club be in then and will the income stream still be there, I seriously doubt it. We had the third biggest gate in the division yesterday behind Derby and Forest, but down on last year which is the crucial part. The majority of fans are fickle and will only want to see a winning team. With the attendances now and the high cost of tickets I really do not understand why we cannot get some decent talent in. Draw/defeat on Tuesday and defeat on Saturday to Birmingham, like Wednesday, another poor side in this Division, will see the skids well and truly under the club. I pay a grand a season to follow the club I have supported since 1960. Dear old Dick Knight saw us through the darkest of days without having two halfpennies for a penny yet with everything now in place the current non-coaching/playing staff seem to making a right hash of it. At our food/drink kiosk just one lad serving, not a clue what he was doing. Then, the final insult was being told we could not leave by the usual exit stairs , no reason given, so would have to leave with the masses trying to get down through the terracing to ground level. The club needs to realise it is in the entertainment industry where the customer has every right to expect to be king!! namgo49
  • Score: 0

6:21pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Lawro was God says...

Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about. Lawro was God
  • Score: 3

6:33pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Sid East Brighton says...

mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match.
Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer.

14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements.
Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez.

I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.
Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card.
You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart.
5 players needed ..
Agree with MBTS. At times I thought we were playing a 2-1-7 formation. Also thought that both fullbacks were very poor. Saw the bristol City game on TV, Baldock looks like a younger CMS. El Abd didn't look to happy sitting on the bench, especially when 2 defenders were brought on ahead of him.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta[/p][/quote]whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match. Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer. 14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements. Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez. I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.[/p][/quote]Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card. You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart. 5 players needed ..[/p][/quote]Agree with MBTS. At times I thought we were playing a 2-1-7 formation. Also thought that both fullbacks were very poor. Saw the bristol City game on TV, Baldock looks like a younger CMS. El Abd didn't look to happy sitting on the bench, especially when 2 defenders were brought on ahead of him. Sid East Brighton
  • Score: 2

6:34pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

SMF20 wrote:
Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2.
I agree and I would be happy to perform that role on an unpaid basis to bring some passion and desire onto the training ground and into the dressing room.
Fat chance I will be asked though!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Might I add that I think that Sami desperately needs a season campaigner as his No 2.[/p][/quote]I agree and I would be happy to perform that role on an unpaid basis to bring some passion and desire onto the training ground and into the dressing room. Fat chance I will be asked though! sussexram40
  • Score: -5

6:35pm Sun 10 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
[quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything. sussexram40
  • Score: -3

6:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Lawro was God says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you? Lawro was God
  • Score: -1

7:20pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!!
Edited lowlights more like. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!![/p][/quote]Edited lowlights more like. ;-) Claude Back
  • Score: 1

7:46pm Sun 10 Aug 14

seagull52 says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
A couple of papers are running stories that Sunderland and West Brom are after Buckley. Surely we won't let any more of our better players go?
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]A couple of papers are running stories that Sunderland and West Brom are after Buckley. Surely we won't let any more of our better players go? seagull52
  • Score: 5

7:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Lawro was God wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?
Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.
[quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?[/p][/quote]Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -7

7:54pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!!
Outstanding post Conelli98 be 100% sure he was not.As for highlights even the football league show couldn't find any apart from their goal.Also the only game they didn't talk about aferwards.They talked about loads of other young lads of just 18 at other clubs but not one word about the vile drunks JFC and Lewis Dunk.Who in their right mind really thinks Sammi had a say in their new 4 year deals lol.Why would a manager give a sub a 4 year deal??? As for JFC how come they don't talk about prem-league clubs looking at him but they do about all the other young lads at other clubs???
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Sorry Argus...I won't click highlights as I've only just etched the 96 minutes from my mind...oh sorry according to the Oracle of all things Brighton and Hove Albion Vegas I wasn't there!!![/p][/quote]Outstanding post Conelli98 be 100% sure he was not.As for highlights even the football league show couldn't find any apart from their goal.Also the only game they didn't talk about aferwards.They talked about loads of other young lads of just 18 at other clubs but not one word about the vile drunks JFC and Lewis Dunk.Who in their right mind really thinks Sammi had a say in their new 4 year deals lol.Why would a manager give a sub a 4 year deal??? As for JFC how come they don't talk about prem-league clubs looking at him but they do about all the other young lads at other clubs??? Please wake up
  • Score: -6

8:04pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

Sid East Brighton wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
Poor game yesterday.

I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad.
We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable.
The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly.
Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though.
Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago..

Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created.
Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths?

Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best.

On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans?
The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful.

A bad day that can hopefully only get better.

Uta
whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match.
Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer.

14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements.
Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez.

I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.
Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card.
You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart.
5 players needed ..
Agree with MBTS. At times I thought we were playing a 2-1-7 formation. Also thought that both fullbacks were very poor. Saw the bristol City game on TV, Baldock looks like a younger CMS. El Abd didn't look to happy sitting on the bench, especially when 2 defenders were brought on ahead of him.
Just like i aways pointed out on this site El-Abd wouldn't even make a good league one player just like the vile freeloading Dunk.This proves i was 100% correct yet again and about G,Barker.I will be outside Dicks bar after the next game with two top scouts if anyone would like a chat about football and prove me wrong.I will be in a light blue shirt & grey suit ok.Im also bald with a skinhead if that helps any and easy to spot.
[quote][p][bold]Sid East Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Poor game yesterday. I'm bitterly disappointed with the board for allowing us to kick off the season with our current squad. We have released or sold 14 players since January and only brought in 4. Some of those departing were star players and to not replace them, is in my mind, inexcusable. The quality we have signed up thus far is not even close to the quality of those that have departed with the exception of Stockdale possibly. Some will say we still have time... They're right too of course. My gripe is that the board have let us start so weak though. Imho only that starting 11/ squad yesterday is weaker than the 11/squad that won the League one title 4 years ago.. Mixed feelings on the set up... I like that when we have the ball, the midfield tuck in and allow the fullbacks to push on and have space on the wings... What I don't like is that 2 of our aging players are filling those fullback positions and thus don't have the pace or energy to exploit the space that's been created. Would it not make more sence to play a back 3 and then have the pace and energy of Buckley and Lua Lua filling those wide berths? Good game for Greer yesterday and some half decent performances by Lua Lua and Stockdale... The rest were average at best. On a final note...I always stay until the players leave the pitch. Did anyone else see our over the top stewards take down the young lad that invaded the pitch when the SW players came over to thank their fans? The lad should not have run on the pitch of course, but the heavy handed nature of our stewards was a disgrace... I for one was truly emabarresed. Even the SW players tried to intervene... The stewards just got up looking for a fight, shameful. A bad day that can hopefully only get better. Uta[/p][/quote]whilst all that you offer as you opinons, might have, 'some validity,' it seems to me that it's a lot to take in from just one match. Did any of us, or Sami and his players, really think that they would adapt to Sami's style of play right from the get go? As you correctly say, we need more players, and players that can deliver what Sami wants, until we get them adapting might take a little longer. 14 players gone, one way or another, since last January but only 4 brought in, true but maybe not exactly accurate. Players don't, 'have,' to come from other clubs to be considered replacements. Bridcutt went but Ince stepped up from the DS, did he not replace Bridders? Regardless of how you may value Solly and JFC, again they are two lads that have made the transition from the DS, two more replacements. Rodriguez has gone, but he was only ever brought in as emergency cover at a time when we had real problems, CMS getting back on the park has negated the need for Rodriguez. I agree with you, we certainly need more players but do we need ten? 14 out and only 4 in, I doubt anyone would say we do. With regards to the right back issue, I am with you on this one and there is a deal I would love to see come off. The young American lad that I have been banging on about, Yedlin, is about to be signed by Spurs, we should step in quickly and get a season long loan deal done. This kid is going to be massive.[/p][/quote]Vegas , it's the manner of the performance rather than the quality, there appeared no game plan, players looked confused , and crofts and jfc both should have a red card. You simply say ince for bridcutt as though they are of similar quality, ince can't keep the ball , the back 4 are slow, a decent forward line will take them apart. 5 players needed ..[/p][/quote]Agree with MBTS. At times I thought we were playing a 2-1-7 formation. Also thought that both fullbacks were very poor. Saw the bristol City game on TV, Baldock looks like a younger CMS. El Abd didn't look to happy sitting on the bench, especially when 2 defenders were brought on ahead of him.[/p][/quote]Just like i aways pointed out on this site El-Abd wouldn't even make a good league one player just like the vile freeloading Dunk.This proves i was 100% correct yet again and about G,Barker.I will be outside Dicks bar after the next game with two top scouts if anyone would like a chat about football and prove me wrong.I will be in a light blue shirt & grey suit ok.Im also bald with a skinhead if that helps any and easy to spot. Please wake up
  • Score: -10

8:05pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

Sorry always b4 the spelling police start.
Sorry always b4 the spelling police start. Please wake up
  • Score: -4

8:06pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Namgo49 stated we were caught napping by a quickly taken free kick for their goal.
This was because the referee told the Weds players to take the free kick about 15 feet further back than where the ball was. He turned his back, they ignored his instruction and he failed to notice. We were caught out and no highlights I have seen show the build up to their goal.
Basically we had no luck yesterday whereas Weds took what was going.
It'll get better I'm sure and as I've stated before we won't have such a bad ref again, hopefully. UTA
Btw I'm sure Casper was on the bench originally but young Walton was named as sub just before ko. Anyone know why?
Namgo49 stated we were caught napping by a quickly taken free kick for their goal. This was because the referee told the Weds players to take the free kick about 15 feet further back than where the ball was. He turned his back, they ignored his instruction and he failed to notice. We were caught out and no highlights I have seen show the build up to their goal. Basically we had no luck yesterday whereas Weds took what was going. It'll get better I'm sure and as I've stated before we won't have such a bad ref again, hopefully. UTA Btw I'm sure Casper was on the bench originally but young Walton was named as sub just before ko. Anyone know why? Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 1

9:04pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Neville says...

Reports from Sunderland papers saying GP has made a 2.5m bid for Buckley,might explain him being sub. Although injury prone think this selling without any quality replacements may be the final straw gor many fans and season tkt holders.
Reports from Sunderland papers saying GP has made a 2.5m bid for Buckley,might explain him being sub. Although injury prone think this selling without any quality replacements may be the final straw gor many fans and season tkt holders. Neville
  • Score: -5

9:09pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Aldrington Halt says...

The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA
The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?
Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.
Evening Minefield!😛
Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean!
On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job!
Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years!
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?[/p][/quote]Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.[/p][/quote]Evening Minefield!😛 Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean! On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job! Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years! UTA Conelli98
  • Score: 4

9:26pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Aldrington Halt wrote:
The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA
Well to be fair Vegas is prone to long rambling sermons about FFP and the need to be sensible and how wonderful it is to be FFP compliant, which does get a bit much after a while when all most supporters want is a bit of excitement and to be entertained. After all that is what we part with our money for. If the suits would demonstrate intent by signing some decent players then there would be no need to moan, as long as we're winning of course. Don't think that's unreasonable.
[quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA[/p][/quote]Well to be fair Vegas is prone to long rambling sermons about FFP and the need to be sensible and how wonderful it is to be FFP compliant, which does get a bit much after a while when all most supporters want is a bit of excitement and to be entertained. After all that is what we part with our money for. If the suits would demonstrate intent by signing some decent players then there would be no need to moan, as long as we're winning of course. Don't think that's unreasonable. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -3

9:43pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Aldrington Halt says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Aldrington Halt wrote:
The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA
Well to be fair Vegas is prone to long rambling sermons about FFP and the need to be sensible and how wonderful it is to be FFP compliant, which does get a bit much after a while when all most supporters want is a bit of excitement and to be entertained. After all that is what we part with our money for. If the suits would demonstrate intent by signing some decent players then there would be no need to moan, as long as we're winning of course. Don't think that's unreasonable.
You're not obliged to read the 'sermons' and maybe you don't get it that when you are a Brighton fan it doesn't matter where you are or come from, or how much you spend, you are always there. The intent to spend and bring in players is there according to the words of the chairman so unless he is a liar we'll get them so...patience is what's needed. I seriously doubt anyone on here me included could do a better job? Looks like Buckley is off now and perhaps CMS is in the window to raise funds for a name? Optimism doesn't kill.. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aldrington Halt[/bold] wrote: The comments on here are really going downhill lately, a bunch of whining pedantic trolls picking at everything and making it into a giant negative conspiracy against the 'season ticket holder' you've the patience of a 3 yr old and what's with the hating on posters like Vegas and others who support and contribute from afar? If you don't get behind the Albion and give them a chance instead of sowing dissent before the season is started then you might as well take a trot up the A23 and join an already 'successful' club and leave the rest of us to enjoy the uphill struggle. UTA[/p][/quote]Well to be fair Vegas is prone to long rambling sermons about FFP and the need to be sensible and how wonderful it is to be FFP compliant, which does get a bit much after a while when all most supporters want is a bit of excitement and to be entertained. After all that is what we part with our money for. If the suits would demonstrate intent by signing some decent players then there would be no need to moan, as long as we're winning of course. Don't think that's unreasonable.[/p][/quote]You're not obliged to read the 'sermons' and maybe you don't get it that when you are a Brighton fan it doesn't matter where you are or come from, or how much you spend, you are always there. The intent to spend and bring in players is there according to the words of the chairman so unless he is a liar we'll get them so...patience is what's needed. I seriously doubt anyone on here me included could do a better job? Looks like Buckley is off now and perhaps CMS is in the window to raise funds for a name? Optimism doesn't kill.. UTA Aldrington Halt
  • Score: 2

10:32pm Sun 10 Aug 14

the taffster says...

I can't see us winning a game with this present squad...bloom and co have shown complete contempt for the supporters...if your not careful a few more losses this month and the sale of Buckley...the crowds will leave and not return....Saturday was poor.kushtak would have stopped the shot from coke but our keeper was out of position...let's give the teams in the championship a 15 point headstart Tony? Because that's how its looking till you get your loan players in...I for one won't be turning up to watch that and I urge others to do the same and not bother..
I can't see us winning a game with this present squad...bloom and co have shown complete contempt for the supporters...if your not careful a few more losses this month and the sale of Buckley...the crowds will leave and not return....Saturday was poor.kushtak would have stopped the shot from coke but our keeper was out of position...let's give the teams in the championship a 15 point headstart Tony? Because that's how its looking till you get your loan players in...I for one won't be turning up to watch that and I urge others to do the same and not bother.. the taffster
  • Score: -7

10:44pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?
Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.
Evening Minefield!😛
Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean!
On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job!
Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years!
UTA
Agreed Clayton had a few decent games last season but we only seem to be linked with players that hardly any other clubs are interested in which is always a bit of a concern. If we could land Clayton and Norwood for a couple of million then we might be onto something.....
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?[/p][/quote]Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.[/p][/quote]Evening Minefield!😛 Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean! On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job! Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years! UTA[/p][/quote]Agreed Clayton had a few decent games last season but we only seem to be linked with players that hardly any other clubs are interested in which is always a bit of a concern. If we could land Clayton and Norwood for a couple of million then we might be onto something..... Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: -3

10:46pm Sun 10 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
Lawro was God wrote:
Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.
They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.
Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?
Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.
Evening Minefield!😛
Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean!
On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job!
Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years!
UTA
Agree with all of this, Buckleys time is up with us, think he needs a change.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lawro was God[/bold] wrote: Lots of positive noises about Clayton on Huddersfield sites. Looks like we may get him after all. Wonder who our target striker is? Surely not Baldock who played for Bristol City yesterday. No other names being bandied about.[/p][/quote]They've sacked their manager today - that could change everything.[/p][/quote]Why would that change anything? He prefers us to Boro and clearly wants to leave. Oh sorry you don't deal in positive news do you?[/p][/quote]Might I add that Neil Lennon is a rumoured candidate for Huddersfield, now that COULD change everything. As I said on another thread though I'm not convinced Clayton is worth the money and good enough to make a big difference to our performances. We need several high quality signings very quickly for about 7-10 million quid in total, and if certain people pull their finger out it should be possible. I see forest are in for Wilfred Zaha for 7 million, that could and should be us but it isnt and it's scandalous considering the money at the albion.[/p][/quote]Evening Minefield!😛 Went to Huddersfield away in April and although it was only one game Clayton and Norwood ran the game. As I said before he is in the mould of Horton or Grealish and anyone that saw them will appreciate what I mean! On the subject of Buckley, I like what he brings to the game but he is injury prone and of we were offered 2.5 m I would take it. March is capable of doing a job! Also what ever Dunk May or may not of done IMO he will come good so people should get off his back! I'm not a fan of JFC as he has no pace and is to lightweight in the middle of the park. Maybe he should be doing the weights after training...AND TALKING OF WEIGHTS...taxi for Kemy! I'm sorry Kemy but that was the most embarrassing appearance I've seen in a Brighton shirt in 47years! UTA[/p][/quote]Agree with all of this, Buckleys time is up with us, think he needs a change. AlfieT
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Sun 10 Aug 14

pte says...

If Gus wants Buckley can we get Bridcutt back who couldnt get a game towards the end of last season? The two deals would cancel each other out re FFP if the timing of payments is done properly. A loan with option to purchase in a years time so no impact on FFP for this year

Same with Chris Woods, that would be a no brainer since Leicester owe us 8m and he's been with us before. We wouldn't have to pay anything, just knock it off the final payment for Leo. So again no impact on FFP for this year.

That might free up money for other purchases
If Gus wants Buckley can we get Bridcutt back who couldnt get a game towards the end of last season? The two deals would cancel each other out re FFP if the timing of payments is done properly. A loan with option to purchase in a years time so no impact on FFP for this year Same with Chris Woods, that would be a no brainer since Leicester owe us 8m and he's been with us before. We wouldn't have to pay anything, just knock it off the final payment for Leo. So again no impact on FFP for this year. That might free up money for other purchases pte
  • Score: 1

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