Albion winger Buckley has medical ahead of £2.5m move to Sunderland

Will Buckley

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Will Buckley is closing in on a move to Sunderland – as Adam Clayton completes his switch to Middlesbrough.

The Albion winger was expected to undergo a medical on Wearside today after his club agreed a £2.5 million deal with the Black Cats.

Albion have issued no comment at this stage.

Meanwhile Huddersfield playmaker Clayton, a target for the Seagulls, has completed a four-year deal with Middlesbrough.

Jacob Butterfield heads in the other direction.

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12:56pm Wed 13 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

Goodbye and good luck Will,thanks for the memories.
Goodbye and good luck Will,thanks for the memories. pjwilk
  • Score: 104

12:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

MHubbs says...

If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please!
If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please! MHubbs
  • Score: 180

1:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management.
He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management. Neville
  • Score: 39

1:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough... Conelli98
  • Score: -23

1:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

arc12 says...

I nice double slap in the face story. One of best players on the way out and one the divisions best heading to Boro. Might take boots to Birmingham on Saturday in case I'm needed!
I nice double slap in the face story. One of best players on the way out and one the divisions best heading to Boro. Might take boots to Birmingham on Saturday in case I'm needed! arc12
  • Score: 86

1:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

Match of the Day is going to be very interesting watching all these ex Seagulls strutting their stuff.
Someone who knows a bit about football once said that you never win anything with kids. Well we're going to find out one way or the other.
Good luck to Will and thanks for the memories.
Will he pass the medical though? I hope for his sake he does.
UTA
Match of the Day is going to be very interesting watching all these ex Seagulls strutting their stuff. Someone who knows a bit about football once said that you never win anything with kids. Well we're going to find out one way or the other. Good luck to Will and thanks for the memories. Will he pass the medical though? I hope for his sake he does. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 55

1:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jonwaller8508 says...

Well done Will Buckley. You deserve the move. I think we could have got a little more but the fact is, we cant get 46 games out of him a season. He will be an impact sub at Sunderland.

If we do not reinvest at least 6 million back into the team I am happy to give up my season ticket. I am getting really angry. We have made up to 10m on Ulloa, 3m on Liam, 2.5m on Will, 750k on Ashley Barnes. I understand we lost 16m (last financial report- May time) but we need some quality in this squad as it is thredbare!!!
Well done Will Buckley. You deserve the move. I think we could have got a little more but the fact is, we cant get 46 games out of him a season. He will be an impact sub at Sunderland. If we do not reinvest at least 6 million back into the team I am happy to give up my season ticket. I am getting really angry. We have made up to 10m on Ulloa, 3m on Liam, 2.5m on Will, 750k on Ashley Barnes. I understand we lost 16m (last financial report- May time) but we need some quality in this squad as it is thredbare!!! jonwaller8508
  • Score: 50

1:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Well if it's a stringent medical, I expect him to be back at The Amex quite quickly. If not, as arc12 said above, I might take my boots along to the next match
Well if it's a stringent medical, I expect him to be back at The Amex quite quickly. If not, as arc12 said above, I might take my boots along to the next match CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 33

1:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Neville wrote:
He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management.
Surely the very least the club can do now, is to give a proper explanation of what's going on. As loyal fans ( most of us are) we deserve to be treated and talked to as adults, rather than idiots. Soooo fed up the way it's all going.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management.[/p][/quote]Surely the very least the club can do now, is to give a proper explanation of what's going on. As loyal fans ( most of us are) we deserve to be treated and talked to as adults, rather than idiots. Soooo fed up the way it's all going. dave from bexill
  • Score: 96

1:12pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Withdean-er says...

Will the last quality player leaving, remember to switch off the Amex lights.
Will the last quality player leaving, remember to switch off the Amex lights. Withdean-er
  • Score: 62

1:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stevebh says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Well if it's a stringent medical, I expect him to be back at The Amex quite quickly. If not, as arc12 said above, I might take my boots along to the next match
Price is good given injuries.....fans on Sunderland echo site not exactly raving about him tho......
Hope he does well tho...can't blame the lad...
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Well if it's a stringent medical, I expect him to be back at The Amex quite quickly. If not, as arc12 said above, I might take my boots along to the next match[/p][/quote]Price is good given injuries.....fans on Sunderland echo site not exactly raving about him tho...... Hope he does well tho...can't blame the lad... stevebh
  • Score: 41

1:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

Just went on the Albion site,story about Dunk's first goal seems its coming online the 14th now that is what i call fast news as today is the 13th.

What more do we want.
Just went on the Albion site,story about Dunk's first goal seems its coming online the 14th now that is what i call fast news as today is the 13th. What more do we want. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 17

1:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion fan in London says...

Ahh my fave player is off as well! Deserves his chance in the big league, I wish him well, I will never forget the Doncaster game as long as I live, thanks for the memories Will.
Ahh my fave player is off as well! Deserves his chance in the big league, I wish him well, I will never forget the Doncaster game as long as I live, thanks for the memories Will. Albion fan in London
  • Score: 51

1:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Surely It's obvious to all by now that Brighton is being run by businessmen, The football side is secondary as long as they don't look stupid it's all they care about. Anyone involved in managing a team can see it makes sense to get Ward in(IMO he should of been the first person we signed in the summer). It irks me to say that Poyet knew what was coming( he knew all about Barber from his Spurs days) and so did Oscar. I feel sorry for Sami as his reputation is going to be tarnished by Bloom, Barber and Burke.
On a final point, Tony Bloom has either made a grave error in judgement on Barber and Burke or he is preparing to sell club...but one thing is for certain THE CLUB IS NOT STAYING LOYAL TO THE FANS.
Surely It's obvious to all by now that Brighton is being run by businessmen, The football side is secondary as long as they don't look stupid it's all they care about. Anyone involved in managing a team can see it makes sense to get Ward in(IMO he should of been the first person we signed in the summer). It irks me to say that Poyet knew what was coming( he knew all about Barber from his Spurs days) and so did Oscar. I feel sorry for Sami as his reputation is going to be tarnished by Bloom, Barber and Burke. On a final point, Tony Bloom has either made a grave error in judgement on Barber and Burke or he is preparing to sell club...but one thing is for certain THE CLUB IS NOT STAYING LOYAL TO THE FANS. Conelli98
  • Score: 75

1:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools
We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 48

1:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Brucie Forsythe says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Neville wrote:
He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management.
Surely the very least the club can do now, is to give a proper explanation of what's going on. As loyal fans ( most of us are) we deserve to be treated and talked to as adults, rather than idiots. Soooo fed up the way it's all going.
No chance - The club will say nothing or they will harp on about how a transfer works and how difficult it is hence why we havent really done anything the market ! Im sorry but on the last day of a transfer window it doesnt seem to be that diffcult. Other clubs seem to get transfers completed pretty quick. If the club came out and said we need to sell our best players and rely on loans and free transfer then at least we know where we stand.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: He will no doubt sail through the medical ironically and as per normal no club statement. No communication and fans forced to look to sky etc to find out what is happening at our club. Poor,poor management.[/p][/quote]Surely the very least the club can do now, is to give a proper explanation of what's going on. As loyal fans ( most of us are) we deserve to be treated and talked to as adults, rather than idiots. Soooo fed up the way it's all going.[/p][/quote]No chance - The club will say nothing or they will harp on about how a transfer works and how difficult it is hence why we havent really done anything the market ! Im sorry but on the last day of a transfer window it doesnt seem to be that diffcult. Other clubs seem to get transfers completed pretty quick. If the club came out and said we need to sell our best players and rely on loans and free transfer then at least we know where we stand. Brucie Forsythe
  • Score: 41

1:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Newhavenles says...

He looked a different player after Gus left , played a different type of game and rarely looked like he was really up for the game.All the best players have left since Oscar and Jones arrived,or is that a coincidence ,maybe it is the suits who have made us into what we have become,a below average championship side
Don't know if he will pass his medical but if he does it probably just meant he didn't want to play for us
He looked a different player after Gus left , played a different type of game and rarely looked like he was really up for the game.All the best players have left since Oscar and Jones arrived,or is that a coincidence ,maybe it is the suits who have made us into what we have become,a below average championship side Don't know if he will pass his medical but if he does it probably just meant he didn't want to play for us Newhavenles
  • Score: 28

1:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

lighteninglee says...

O joy another player out the door. Come the end of the week we Will have a team suitable for challenging league 1. What the f@@k is going on. Think the fans need answers now.
O joy another player out the door. Come the end of the week we Will have a team suitable for challenging league 1. What the f@@k is going on. Think the fans need answers now. lighteninglee
  • Score: 32

1:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bbb1969 says...

Millions millions everywhere and not a pound to spend.
Millions millions everywhere and not a pound to spend. bbb1969
  • Score: 34

1:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

Remember that song.Where have all the flowers gone,well where have all the players gone,gone to better clubs every one.
Remember that song.Where have all the flowers gone,well where have all the players gone,gone to better clubs every one. pjwilk
  • Score: 23

1:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Well Argus--I know you have to make reports like this--BUT thats just the news we wanted--NOT. How many players have gone from BHA now?? How many have been ear marked FOR BHA and not arrived?? It is embarrassing that we have such great facilities but very few players to match. Really reminds me of the Olympic facilities in Greece--marvelous new arenas now covered in weeds and grass with little chance of ever being used again.
I agree--now is the time for BHA to come out and make a statement, they must be aware of the growing unrest amongst its loyal paying fans who now--it appears--will be cancelling their season tickets in droves unless there is the ´promised´influx of players--at this rate from the Conference League. What must Sammi, Ogrady, Toko and co now think?? NEVER felt like this about BHA before!!!
Well Argus--I know you have to make reports like this--BUT thats just the news we wanted--NOT. How many players have gone from BHA now?? How many have been ear marked FOR BHA and not arrived?? It is embarrassing that we have such great facilities but very few players to match. Really reminds me of the Olympic facilities in Greece--marvelous new arenas now covered in weeds and grass with little chance of ever being used again. I agree--now is the time for BHA to come out and make a statement, they must be aware of the growing unrest amongst its loyal paying fans who now--it appears--will be cancelling their season tickets in droves unless there is the ´promised´influx of players--at this rate from the Conference League. What must Sammi, Ogrady, Toko and co now think?? NEVER felt like this about BHA before!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 30

1:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Beale32 says...

They say its hard to get players in, but why is it so easy for them to let players go?

oh well ...... Keep the faith
uta
They say its hard to get players in, but why is it so easy for them to let players go? oh well ...... Keep the faith uta Beale32
  • Score: 25

1:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

pjwilk says...

pjwilk wrote:
Remember that song.Where have all the flowers gone,well where have all the players gone,gone to better clubs every one.
We all can now see why Gus and Oscar left,we are a joke club.I will not go to a match again till the Blues Bros have gone and possibly Bloom as well.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Remember that song.Where have all the flowers gone,well where have all the players gone,gone to better clubs every one.[/p][/quote]We all can now see why Gus and Oscar left,we are a joke club.I will not go to a match again till the Blues Bros have gone and possibly Bloom as well. pjwilk
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

gilbertthecat says...

So of the current players (fit and / or not banned) only KLL and possibly CMS could excite me now. Maybe when AC and DS are back it will look a little better. The youth section is looking good but not yet ready I think. AC at lb isn't experienced enough, same with LD. JFC - sorry not my favourite - seriously needs a lot more work to turn into the finished article. SM - has some really good moments but again needs more time / experience (hope he doesn't end up getting it along the M27 though). Like others have said I can't get over excited about COG, but I hope he proves to be better than expected, or any of the other 'possible' signings such as Clayton (now gone elsewhere), Baldock and McCourt. They're not the answer to losing LU and others as they're not as good - as always I'll be delighted if any of them prove me wrong.
So of the current players (fit and / or not banned) only KLL and possibly CMS could excite me now. Maybe when AC and DS are back it will look a little better. The youth section is looking good but not yet ready I think. AC at lb isn't experienced enough, same with LD. JFC - sorry not my favourite - seriously needs a lot more work to turn into the finished article. SM - has some really good moments but again needs more time / experience (hope he doesn't end up getting it along the M27 though). Like others have said I can't get over excited about COG, but I hope he proves to be better than expected, or any of the other 'possible' signings such as Clayton (now gone elsewhere), Baldock and McCourt. They're not the answer to losing LU and others as they're not as good - as always I'll be delighted if any of them prove me wrong. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 14

1:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Neville says...

With deaner
,no one needs to switch off the lights they work on movement and as there is no one coming in they will automatically turn themselves off
With deaner ,no one needs to switch off the lights they work on movement and as there is no one coming in they will automatically turn themselves off Neville
  • Score: 9

1:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seagulls26 says...

Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club.
On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees.
I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable.
Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!!
I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!!
Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club. On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees. I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable. Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!! I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!! Seagulls26
  • Score: 16

1:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rhodes Seagull says...

WHY yet again am I reading about a player who has no connection with our club and about another club I really have no interest in? "Adam Clayton completes his switch to Middlesbrough. "
Lets get someone from the club to give us and honest statment in the next 24 hours to tell us what the hell is going on behind the doors of what is now a secret society!!!!
WHY yet again am I reading about a player who has no connection with our club and about another club I really have no interest in? "Adam Clayton completes his switch to Middlesbrough. " Lets get someone from the club to give us and honest statment in the next 24 hours to tell us what the hell is going on behind the doors of what is now a secret society!!!! Rhodes Seagull
  • Score: 20

1:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 36

1:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Crucial Point says...

There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...
There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario... Crucial Point
  • Score: 19

1:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

I am not an advocate of protests but I genuinely would support---albeit in principle as I live in Spain--a mass protest by the fans at The Amex next home game. If they have not got it yet, The Board needs to hear and see what the FANS---the people that keep them their jobs---really think about what is happening to our club. Dick Knight and Des Lynam--HELP!!!
As to Ward coming back--I would seriously suggest that he would now have reservations about coming back given that he will hardly know any of the players if he should return as they have nearly all gone. Wont´do much for his confidence. Clearly I expect CMS and Lua Lua to be putting in a transfer request!!! to go to a Club with ambition and decent players around them---these two will work hard for us but they need quality players around them so they can be fed quality balls. Needs the likes of Greer and Calderon---our older level headed players---to have a word in Sammis shell like, goes on like this there will be a players protest as well. I despair as to what the h----l is going on!!???
I am not an advocate of protests but I genuinely would support---albeit in principle as I live in Spain--a mass protest by the fans at The Amex next home game. If they have not got it yet, The Board needs to hear and see what the FANS---the people that keep them their jobs---really think about what is happening to our club. Dick Knight and Des Lynam--HELP!!! As to Ward coming back--I would seriously suggest that he would now have reservations about coming back given that he will hardly know any of the players if he should return as they have nearly all gone. Wont´do much for his confidence. Clearly I expect CMS and Lua Lua to be putting in a transfer request!!! to go to a Club with ambition and decent players around them---these two will work hard for us but they need quality players around them so they can be fed quality balls. Needs the likes of Greer and Calderon---our older level headed players---to have a word in Sammis shell like, goes on like this there will be a players protest as well. I despair as to what the h----l is going on!!??? mikeygit
  • Score: 9

1:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Plutomania says...

Before the sh##t hit the fan on this thread.

I was reading in the Sun daily newspaper from Las Vagas
The story goes.

Highway Patrol find a severely dehydrated/delirious man ,atop of Clarke Mountain ,they do not know his age as he is severely sunburnt and wrinkled .He was wearing with a blue and white stripped top ,with Johnny McNicoll written on the back.

He was mumbling something about searching for the Legendary, Priceless Golden Rivet in the Navada Desert.
He was also mumbling something about giving it to the 3 B`S as he was stretchered away. He was looking up to the sky at the vultures circling over head ,shouting Vagas Seagulls. The police are looking into the 3 B`S not knowing whether its sir names or rear ends they are looking also for the relationship between seagulls and vultures. Police are conducting further enquires
Before the sh##t hit the fan on this thread. I was reading in the Sun daily newspaper from Las Vagas The story goes. Highway Patrol find a severely dehydrated/delirious man ,atop of Clarke Mountain ,they do not know his age as he is severely sunburnt and wrinkled .He was wearing with a blue and white stripped top ,with Johnny McNicoll written on the back. He was mumbling something about searching for the Legendary, Priceless Golden Rivet in the Navada Desert. He was also mumbling something about giving it to the 3 B`S as he was stretchered away. He was looking up to the sky at the vultures circling over head ,shouting Vagas Seagulls. The police are looking into the 3 B`S not knowing whether its sir names or rear ends they are looking also for the relationship between seagulls and vultures. Police are conducting further enquires Plutomania
  • Score: -19

1:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.
Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 10

1:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

I guess that is most of the high earners gone, l wonder if this explains why Dunk gets a four year deal yet Cms only has months left on his contract and can walk for free season end, maybe that suits the club another high earner off the books, oh and ime not part of the anti dunk brigade. Just my observation
I guess that is most of the high earners gone, l wonder if this explains why Dunk gets a four year deal yet Cms only has months left on his contract and can walk for free season end, maybe that suits the club another high earner off the books, oh and ime not part of the anti dunk brigade. Just my observation Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 11

1:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

gilbertthecat says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.
Don't dangle names like that - source? Any good?
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.[/p][/quote]Don't dangle names like that - source? Any good? gilbertthecat
  • Score: 13

1:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Crucial Point says...

There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...


If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first?
Crucial Point says... There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario... If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first? CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 12

1:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
I think this sums it up perfectly.
Whilst we have sold, albeit IMHO at excellent prices, we have yet to reinvest and it is that which will determine how good the clubs employees are. They say that they wished to be judged by the end of the window and I think we should accept the fact that it is not always an easy task to finalise some of these deals.
On the other hand it is much more difficult to stop a player wanting to leave for the Premier league where he will double or more his salary; surely that is obvious and the club cannot be blamed for that either.
We are all frustrated by the lack of signings but give the benefit of the doubt to the man who has ploughed in the money and wait and see.
Trust, don't kneejerk.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Whilst we have sold, albeit IMHO at excellent prices, we have yet to reinvest and it is that which will determine how good the clubs employees are. They say that they wished to be judged by the end of the window and I think we should accept the fact that it is not always an easy task to finalise some of these deals. On the other hand it is much more difficult to stop a player wanting to leave for the Premier league where he will double or more his salary; surely that is obvious and the club cannot be blamed for that either. We are all frustrated by the lack of signings but give the benefit of the doubt to the man who has ploughed in the money and wait and see. Trust, don't kneejerk. Piglet1
  • Score: 9

1:53pm Wed 13 Aug 14

B-hove says...

pjwilk wrote:
Goodbye and good luck Will,thanks for the memories.
Absolutely. Hope Gus gets the very best from him. WB will benefit from the better protection skilful players get (from referees) in the Premiership.

WB will always remembered for his goals against Doncaster in the first ever Championship game at the Amex.

End of an era.
[quote][p][bold]pjwilk[/bold] wrote: Goodbye and good luck Will,thanks for the memories.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Hope Gus gets the very best from him. WB will benefit from the better protection skilful players get (from referees) in the Premiership. WB will always remembered for his goals against Doncaster in the first ever Championship game at the Amex. End of an era. B-hove
  • Score: 23

1:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Amex should be renamed the titanic....

Any other possible rebranding anyone, just to lighten the mood, humour always helps when your down.
Amex should be renamed the titanic.... Any other possible rebranding anyone, just to lighten the mood, humour always helps when your down. taylord1977
  • Score: 11

2:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.
Thanks, PBT.
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.[/p][/quote]Thanks, PBT. Claude Back
  • Score: 7

2:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Far gull says...

To all previous posters....you have summed up all my feelings.
20 million in non out. Only on rubbish. Sami surely must know or be thinking of walking.
If away results poor between now and 23rd suggest a no go to next home game. Or may be we by then will have got in Ronaldo/Messi and more. Thats about the only course now to placate supporters....or come out and tell the bl....y truth we are all but bust. At least that is the honorable thing to do.
To all previous posters....you have summed up all my feelings. 20 million in non out. Only on rubbish. Sami surely must know or be thinking of walking. If away results poor between now and 23rd suggest a no go to next home game. Or may be we by then will have got in Ronaldo/Messi and more. Thats about the only course now to placate supporters....or come out and tell the bl....y truth we are all but bust. At least that is the honorable thing to do. Far gull
  • Score: 3

2:04pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench.

I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club.

Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong.
As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench. I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club. Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong. Aye Aye
  • Score: 32

2:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Sometimes it's the right time for a player to leave, but in our case, the proof of our publicly stated intentions is who we bring the other way.
There's still time to go, but with a series of established, seasoned and able pros having left in the last 6 months, the cupboard right now is looking very bare.
After so much investment on infrastructure, I fail to believe the Premier League 'promise' is a hollow one, but there's certainly some work to be done on the team - and on the fans.
Sometimes it's the right time for a player to leave, but in our case, the proof of our publicly stated intentions is who we bring the other way. There's still time to go, but with a series of established, seasoned and able pros having left in the last 6 months, the cupboard right now is looking very bare. After so much investment on infrastructure, I fail to believe the Premier League 'promise' is a hollow one, but there's certainly some work to be done on the team - and on the fans. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 15

2:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢 Conelli98
  • Score: -1

2:11pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Players sign for a club for the following reasons:

1) Player is still searching for a contract
2) Can not secure a regular starting spot at their current club
3) Bigger salary than their current club can offer
4) Club is in a higher division than their current club
5) One last club before retirement, i.e. older player dropping down the divisions
6) The player sees the club as progressing in the right direction, i.e. the club holds onto the majority of its top players to signal its intent to win things.

Now which of the 6 ticks the box for the key players we are aiming for?
Players sign for a club for the following reasons: 1) Player is still searching for a contract 2) Can not secure a regular starting spot at their current club 3) Bigger salary than their current club can offer 4) Club is in a higher division than their current club 5) One last club before retirement, i.e. older player dropping down the divisions 6) The player sees the club as progressing in the right direction, i.e. the club holds onto the majority of its top players to signal its intent to win things. Now which of the 6 ticks the box for the key players we are aiming for? taylord1977
  • Score: 7

2:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
Can you actually stop you'r DD ???

You did sign up for the season.

If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season.

As long as we get entertained does it matter.

Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]Can you actually stop you'r DD ??? You did sign up for the season. If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season. As long as we get entertained does it matter. Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 16

2:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The lev says...

The club are always saying how hard if is to sign players , well it's not that hard to sign Brighton players !!
The club are always saying how hard if is to sign players , well it's not that hard to sign Brighton players !! The lev
  • Score: 25

2:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

I'm off to watch Eastbourne Borough they don't mess their supporters about like the albion do. It's become an utter embarrassment at the Amex.
I'm off to watch Eastbourne Borough they don't mess their supporters about like the albion do. It's become an utter embarrassment at the Amex. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 11

2:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

One comment directly attributed to the Buckley deal is that with fees as they are (Shane Long £12m ??) I think £2.5m is a giveaway.
One comment directly attributed to the Buckley deal is that with fees as they are (Shane Long £12m ??) I think £2.5m is a giveaway. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 5

2:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

gilbertthecat wrote:
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.
Don't dangle names like that - source? Any good?
Just rumour, but picking up pace on the press wire and twitter. Highly rated player, was of interest to both Arsenal and Spurs, he played two of the Dutch games at the World Cup, still young, 22 yrs old I think.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Dutch centre back Joel Veltman ? Watch this space.[/p][/quote]Don't dangle names like that - source? Any good?[/p][/quote]Just rumour, but picking up pace on the press wire and twitter. Highly rated player, was of interest to both Arsenal and Spurs, he played two of the Dutch games at the World Cup, still young, 22 yrs old I think. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 11

2:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already.

Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled.
people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players.
Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing.

This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not.
I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword.

Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in.
Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering.

We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit.
With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it.
They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why.

Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure.
Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map.
Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it.
My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell.

I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled.
I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk.

Very frustrated fan
I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already. Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled. people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players. Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing. This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not. I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword. Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in. Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering. We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit. With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it. They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why. Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure. Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map. Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it. My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell. I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled. I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk. Very frustrated fan SMF20
  • Score: 22

2:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

The lev says...

First season at the Amex I thought Buckley was a future star , he had pace , skill ,could score goals and a big lad , almost a poor mans Bale , however since then he's been rubbish 2.5 m is good money for him , please mr bloom spend the money we have received by selling the last 3 players.
First season at the Amex I thought Buckley was a future star , he had pace , skill ,could score goals and a big lad , almost a poor mans Bale , however since then he's been rubbish 2.5 m is good money for him , please mr bloom spend the money we have received by selling the last 3 players. The lev
  • Score: 16

2:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kwaidam says...

With all the silverware sold, the team we were all so proud of is now gone. I don't care which average mediocre seasoned journeyman is brought in next on a cheap contract it would serve the cocky suits right if we were relegated. There is more chance of that happening than going in any other direction. Burke out, barber out. Dumbed down squad but the fans, sorry barber, customers, are not dumb. Watch us go down. Then you can leave wot happy off and go and make a mess of another club.
With all the silverware sold, the team we were all so proud of is now gone. I don't care which average mediocre seasoned journeyman is brought in next on a cheap contract it would serve the cocky suits right if we were relegated. There is more chance of that happening than going in any other direction. Burke out, barber out. Dumbed down squad but the fans, sorry barber, customers, are not dumb. Watch us go down. Then you can leave wot happy off and go and make a mess of another club. kwaidam
  • Score: 9

2:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chi Gull says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Crucial Point says...

There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...


If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first?
I assume he would do that so that he can sell a going concern with top notch facilities rather than a business haemorrhaging money ? He will get a better price. High wage earners are a drag on the business - especially when they are only fit for half the season.
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Crucial Point says... There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario... If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first?[/p][/quote]I assume he would do that so that he can sell a going concern with top notch facilities rather than a business haemorrhaging money ? He will get a better price. High wage earners are a drag on the business - especially when they are only fit for half the season. Chi Gull
  • Score: 8

2:29pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

SMF20 wrote:
I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already.

Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled.
people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players.
Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing.

This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not.
I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword.

Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in.
Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering.

We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit.
With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it.
They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why.

Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure.
Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map.
Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it.
My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell.

I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled.
I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk.

Very frustrated fan
😄 did you say there wasn't much as too say??😄
At least you made me smile today!
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already. Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled. people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players. Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing. This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not. I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword. Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in. Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering. We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit. With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it. They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why. Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure. Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map. Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it. My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell. I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled. I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk. Very frustrated fan[/p][/quote]😄 did you say there wasn't much as too say??😄 At least you made me smile today! Conelli98
  • Score: 15

2:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kwaidam says...

Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend.
Goodbye and good luck.
Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend. Goodbye and good luck. kwaidam
  • Score: 18

2:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
Can you actually stop you'r DD ???

You did sign up for the season.

If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season.

As long as we get entertained does it matter.

Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.
Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]Can you actually stop you'r DD ??? You did sign up for the season. If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season. As long as we get entertained does it matter. Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.[/p][/quote]Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 0

2:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

Conelli98 wrote:
SMF20 wrote:
I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already.

Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled.
people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players.
Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing.

This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not.
I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword.

Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in.
Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering.

We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit.
With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it.
They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why.

Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure.
Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map.
Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it.
My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell.

I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled.
I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk.

Very frustrated fan
😄 did you say there wasn't much as too say??😄
At least you made me smile today!
I did go on a bit. Sorry
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: I don't think that there is much else to say that hasn't been said already. Our successful team put together during the Gus reign is all but dismantled. people may say that he had a big budget and put us in debt etc etc but did he really? He put an extra 5 thousand bums on seats earning the club millions and he has made us a huge profit on a number of players. Gus may have been outspoken but he knew what he was doing. This particular squad is now looking like relegation fodder whether we like it or not. I genuinely believe that our league 1 winning side would have easily put this current crop to the sword. Mr Bloom... Yes Mr Bloom is playing a very dangerous game right now. He is the boss and at the end of the day he decides on budgets and who goes and who is bought in. Mt Burke rightly or wrongly gets a hard time... Is it for sure his fault? who really knows. How do we know that he doesn't generate interest only to have agents and players laughing in his face at our clubs offering. We have been told that we didn't need to sell this pre-season and so I would suggest that FFP targets are very much on course to be hit. With this in my I would suggest that we have well over £10 million available should the club WANT to spend it. They seemingly are choosing not to though.. for now at least and the question has to be asked... Why. Mr Bloom has done a magnificent job putting together an off pitch infrastructure. Mr Poyet did a magnificent job putting us on the map. Why are we now undoing all of the good work that so much time, money and effort went into building? I just don't get it. My only conclusion is that of a few others... Mr Bloom is looking to sell. I genuinely fear for our club if some major talent doesn't arrive shortly. On every site there is discontent and even anger at the way our team has been dismantled. I love our shiny new things... THE FOOTABALL TEAM HAS TO COME FIRST THOUGH... Ne team... No fans for our corporate body to milk. Very frustrated fan[/p][/quote]😄 did you say there wasn't much as too say??😄 At least you made me smile today![/p][/quote]I did go on a bit. Sorry SMF20
  • Score: 21

2:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit? dave from bexill
  • Score: 15

2:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

jcd1972 says...

TB's done a good job financing The Amex & training ground but he's now got just over 2 weeks to save his and his employees' credibility. Like others I can't see how the players sold are going to be replaced. We need a realistic assessment of what the club expects to achieve. In the current climate the stated ambition of reaching the premier league is deluded and both our players and those who are apparent targets believe their ambitions are more likely to be achieved elsewhere.
TB's done a good job financing The Amex & training ground but he's now got just over 2 weeks to save his and his employees' credibility. Like others I can't see how the players sold are going to be replaced. We need a realistic assessment of what the club expects to achieve. In the current climate the stated ambition of reaching the premier league is deluded and both our players and those who are apparent targets believe their ambitions are more likely to be achieved elsewhere. jcd1972
  • Score: 19

2:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kwaidam says...

The only players who will sign for us now are the following...
1. The Has Beens
2. The Never Weres
3. The Unwanted.
But hey, at least they are CHEAP... So that means more money for end of season targets for Barber and his chums...
As Fat Boy Slim says... I wanna praise you..
Sadly just because we have a great stadium and a Class1 training not to mention 25,000 loyal fans does not make us immune to relegation.
But then the suits don't care. They will move on to their next boardroom. If relegation is what it will take to rid us of Barber and Burke, then I will take that. Bleed BHAFC
The only players who will sign for us now are the following... 1. The Has Beens 2. The Never Weres 3. The Unwanted. But hey, at least they are CHEAP... So that means more money for end of season targets for Barber and his chums... As Fat Boy Slim says... I wanna praise you.. Sadly just because we have a great stadium and a Class1 training not to mention 25,000 loyal fans does not make us immune to relegation. But then the suits don't care. They will move on to their next boardroom. If relegation is what it will take to rid us of Barber and Burke, then I will take that. Bleed BHAFC kwaidam
  • Score: 13

2:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

MHubbs wrote:
If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please!
TB and gang - please read this and do something about it NOW we are all becoming very frustrated at the non activity or even news
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please![/p][/quote]TB and gang - please read this and do something about it NOW we are all becoming very frustrated at the non activity or even news Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 13

2:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
Can you actually stop you'r DD ???

You did sign up for the season.

If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season.

As long as we get entertained does it matter.

Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.
Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement.
P.S. I might be doing this if TB has not signed good enough replacements by the end of August and I shall email the club accordingly.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]Can you actually stop you'r DD ??? You did sign up for the season. If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season. As long as we get entertained does it matter. Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.[/p][/quote]Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement.[/p][/quote]P.S. I might be doing this if TB has not signed good enough replacements by the end of August and I shall email the club accordingly. SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: 18

2:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

kwaidam wrote:
Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend.
Goodbye and good luck.
Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!!
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend. Goodbye and good luck.[/p][/quote]Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!! Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 16

2:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taman says...

Bridders virtually went on strike
Barns sub when others were fit
Ullo 8 - 10 million !!!
EL Abed (see Barns)
Buckers 2.5 million for a major sick note take Gus's hand off

TB "We will all be happy with the squad when the transfer window closes" (so I'm reserving judgment till then)
sorry to see all the above go but what can we do, above us
the promised land of the premier league, and if you were a player could you turn it down if one of them came calling ?
Its not great whats happening at the moment but lets not all forget we have the specter of FFF looming in January and if the suits don't get it right now then what were moaning about now will pale into insignificance
Bridders virtually went on strike Barns sub when others were fit Ullo 8 - 10 million !!! EL Abed (see Barns) Buckers 2.5 million for a major sick note take Gus's hand off TB "We will all be happy with the squad when the transfer window closes" (so I'm reserving judgment till then) sorry to see all the above go but what can we do, above us the promised land of the premier league, and if you were a player could you turn it down if one of them came calling ? Its not great whats happening at the moment but lets not all forget we have the specter of FFF looming in January and if the suits don't get it right now then what were moaning about now will pale into insignificance taman
  • Score: 11

2:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

So here's a list if possible opponents in the Lge Cup, since we are seeded we wont be picking up a plum tie.

UNSEEDED TEAMS
Birmingham City
Bradford City
Brentford
Burton Albion
Charlton Athletic
Crawley Town
Crewe Alexandra
Doncaster Rovers
Gillingham
Huddersfield Town
Leyton Orient
Millwall
Milton Keynes Dons
Northampton Town
Oxford United
Port Vale
Portsmouth
Preston North End
Rotherham United
Scunthorpe United
Shrewsbury Town
Swindon Town
Walsall
Sheffield United / Mansfield Town
Sheffield Wednesday or Coventry City.
So here's a list if possible opponents in the Lge Cup, since we are seeded we wont be picking up a plum tie. UNSEEDED TEAMS Birmingham City Bradford City Brentford Burton Albion Charlton Athletic Crawley Town Crewe Alexandra Doncaster Rovers Gillingham Huddersfield Town Leyton Orient Millwall Milton Keynes Dons Northampton Town Oxford United Port Vale Portsmouth Preston North End Rotherham United Scunthorpe United Shrewsbury Town Swindon Town Walsall Sheffield United / Mansfield Town Sheffield Wednesday or Coventry City. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 3

2:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

Crucial Point wrote:
There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...
Could be administration you know, the selling of anybody worth a few quid first and then the fixtures and fittings. All the things the club are doing right now concur with it anyway. My guess is Bloom built the Amex with his money and assumed we'd be in the premier league within a season or two and that the riches from that would pay him back for the stadium and then some. However we never made it to the prem and so Bloom is possibly trying to plug a huge hole in his own finances with money from the club, and simply passes off the selling of players and little expenditure under FFP and if that doesn't work then who knows what happens. So we're left with a squad with little quality and unhappy supporters, really we needed to have beaten palace in that play off and then Bloom would have got his money and we'd all be happy. Either that or we need Arabs or Russians to suddenly have a brainwave of buying us and pumping money into the club. I suspect there is some panicking going on behind the scenes right now and probably has been for some time now.
[quote][p][bold]Crucial Point[/bold] wrote: There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...[/p][/quote]Could be administration you know, the selling of anybody worth a few quid first and then the fixtures and fittings. All the things the club are doing right now concur with it anyway. My guess is Bloom built the Amex with his money and assumed we'd be in the premier league within a season or two and that the riches from that would pay him back for the stadium and then some. However we never made it to the prem and so Bloom is possibly trying to plug a huge hole in his own finances with money from the club, and simply passes off the selling of players and little expenditure under FFP and if that doesn't work then who knows what happens. So we're left with a squad with little quality and unhappy supporters, really we needed to have beaten palace in that play off and then Bloom would have got his money and we'd all be happy. Either that or we need Arabs or Russians to suddenly have a brainwave of buying us and pumping money into the club. I suspect there is some panicking going on behind the scenes right now and probably has been for some time now. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 18

2:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stonegold says...

Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien.
Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien. stonegold
  • Score: 22

2:56pm Wed 13 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

I read a lot of posts from people telling me to be patient...to wait until the close of the transfer window to judge the Albion's dealings.

Sorry, but this is complete and utter rubbish. The season started on August 9 and we were nowhere near ready. We've now sold all (yes, IMO all) our best players and failed to replace them. Time may prove that Stockdale is an adequate replacement for TK but O'Grady isn't in the same class as Ulloa or even Barnes for that matter. CMS is coming back after a major injury and has yet to prove he can be the consistent goalscorer we signed from Peterborough.

What has gone on at the club since Oscar's departure – and the lack of communication – is an insult to the fans. The forum was an absolute joke and if Tony Bloom is to keep his promise that we'll be happy with the squad come August 31, Burke better have some blockbuster deals in the pipeline. I just can't see it...after all, most of the better players available (like Clayton) have already been snapped up. How do you replace the spine of a team in three weeks...and give Sami a chance to work on the training ground with the new players?

Based on last night's performance against a lower-half League Two outfit, I can't see us picking up so much as a point against Birmingham or Leeds. Right now, Brighton and Blackpool are the two teams you want to be playing...an easy three points.

If we'd managed to keep the majority of last season's squad together, and added just a couple of new faces, I could easily have seen us taking nine points from our first three games.

Sheff Weds, Birmingham and Leeds are teams you should be beating if you want to be at the top end of the table.

No doubt I will get a barrage of thumbs down for daring to criticise the club...but, right now, I just don't see how anyone can put a positive spin on what is happening at our beloved Albion.
I read a lot of posts from people telling me to be patient...to wait until the close of the transfer window to judge the Albion's dealings. Sorry, but this is complete and utter rubbish. The season started on August 9 and we were nowhere near ready. We've now sold all (yes, IMO all) our best players and failed to replace them. Time may prove that Stockdale is an adequate replacement for TK but O'Grady isn't in the same class as Ulloa or even Barnes for that matter. CMS is coming back after a major injury and has yet to prove he can be the consistent goalscorer we signed from Peterborough. What has gone on at the club since Oscar's departure – and the lack of communication – is an insult to the fans. The forum was an absolute joke and if Tony Bloom is to keep his promise that we'll be happy with the squad come August 31, Burke better have some blockbuster deals in the pipeline. I just can't see it...after all, most of the better players available (like Clayton) have already been snapped up. How do you replace the spine of a team in three weeks...and give Sami a chance to work on the training ground with the new players? Based on last night's performance against a lower-half League Two outfit, I can't see us picking up so much as a point against Birmingham or Leeds. Right now, Brighton and Blackpool are the two teams you want to be playing...an easy three points. If we'd managed to keep the majority of last season's squad together, and added just a couple of new faces, I could easily have seen us taking nine points from our first three games. Sheff Weds, Birmingham and Leeds are teams you should be beating if you want to be at the top end of the table. No doubt I will get a barrage of thumbs down for daring to criticise the club...but, right now, I just don't see how anyone can put a positive spin on what is happening at our beloved Albion. heshootshescores
  • Score: 32

2:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Saw this on BBC site today.
Brighton and Hove Albion head of football operations David Burke hopes the Football League will clamp down heavily on those clubs who fail to abide by the new Financial Fare Play rules. He is quoted as saying;
"We at Brighton have been planning and working to get in line with FFP. There are a number of clubs that we know already will not be within financial limits. We hope the FL will be really strong with the transfer embargo's and the fines or taxes are imposed properly. The idea is that these clubs will be penalised"
Saw this on BBC site today. Brighton and Hove Albion head of football operations David Burke hopes the Football League will clamp down heavily on those clubs who fail to abide by the new Financial Fare Play rules. He is quoted as saying; "We at Brighton have been planning and working to get in line with FFP. There are a number of clubs that we know already will not be within financial limits. We hope the FL will be really strong with the transfer embargo's and the fines or taxes are imposed properly. The idea is that these clubs will be penalised" dave from bexill
  • Score: 16

2:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools
Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennetts Field. No Mr Burke it is not another aged footballer currently without a club and one we can get for free - it's the bloody car park!!
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools[/p][/quote]Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennetts Field. No Mr Burke it is not another aged footballer currently without a club and one we can get for free - it's the bloody car park!! Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 12

2:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Brightony says...

If it weren't for the fact that a Premiership club must be worth way more than a Championship club I'd be thinking maybe TB is cashing in. I'm really patient and have had faith in the fact that a man who appears to love the club and has funded it to this position does know what he's doing and that he does intend a serious push on to the Premiership. However I'm really beginning to wonder as the transfer window runs out whether it is actually going to happen this season. It seems the team Gus put together when we were flying as a club has almost entirely been dismantled for a vast profit and, since he left, there's been nobody with the clarity of vision to target the right signings, relying on loans, journeymen and development squad players coming through to make up the numbers. This is clearly not sustainable and we need Sami to show his true worth and start attracting players. How can a player like Clayton choose Middlesborough over Brighton - it just shouldn't happen and I have this sickening sense that if Gus were still here he'd have signed with us like a shot. Come on Brighton Management - identify some decent signings and make them offers they can't refuse and transform this club back into one people want to play for! Good luck WB and thanks for the memories.
If it weren't for the fact that a Premiership club must be worth way more than a Championship club I'd be thinking maybe TB is cashing in. I'm really patient and have had faith in the fact that a man who appears to love the club and has funded it to this position does know what he's doing and that he does intend a serious push on to the Premiership. However I'm really beginning to wonder as the transfer window runs out whether it is actually going to happen this season. It seems the team Gus put together when we were flying as a club has almost entirely been dismantled for a vast profit and, since he left, there's been nobody with the clarity of vision to target the right signings, relying on loans, journeymen and development squad players coming through to make up the numbers. This is clearly not sustainable and we need Sami to show his true worth and start attracting players. How can a player like Clayton choose Middlesborough over Brighton - it just shouldn't happen and I have this sickening sense that if Gus were still here he'd have signed with us like a shot. Come on Brighton Management - identify some decent signings and make them offers they can't refuse and transform this club back into one people want to play for! Good luck WB and thanks for the memories. Brightony
  • Score: 17

3:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

kwaidam wrote:
The only players who will sign for us now are the following...
1. The Has Beens
2. The Never Weres
3. The Unwanted.
But hey, at least they are CHEAP... So that means more money for end of season targets for Barber and his chums...
As Fat Boy Slim says... I wanna praise you..
Sadly just because we have a great stadium and a Class1 training not to mention 25,000 loyal fans does not make us immune to relegation.
But then the suits don't care. They will move on to their next boardroom. If relegation is what it will take to rid us of Barber and Burke, then I will take that. Bleed BHAFC
Apart from the top olden days Albion have NO WAY 25000 LOYAL FANS.
15000 at most.

Albion have fans galore if they play at the top end of the league or get a top draw in any of the cup games,then there are 40000.
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: The only players who will sign for us now are the following... 1. The Has Beens 2. The Never Weres 3. The Unwanted. But hey, at least they are CHEAP... So that means more money for end of season targets for Barber and his chums... As Fat Boy Slim says... I wanna praise you.. Sadly just because we have a great stadium and a Class1 training not to mention 25,000 loyal fans does not make us immune to relegation. But then the suits don't care. They will move on to their next boardroom. If relegation is what it will take to rid us of Barber and Burke, then I will take that. Bleed BHAFC[/p][/quote]Apart from the top olden days Albion have NO WAY 25000 LOYAL FANS. 15000 at most. Albion have fans galore if they play at the top end of the league or get a top draw in any of the cup games,then there are 40000. don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 13

3:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Crucial Point says...

There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...


If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first?
Very simple because it shows the club have, at least, broken even in the financial year, or maybe they can make a small profit if they keep on selling and not replacing. That's what buyers look at first!

I said it as soon as David Burke and Paul Barber were appointed. The club has lost sight of what matters in football clubs and are completely over the top with their focus on commercial activities forgetting if there is no SUCCESSFUL football team - there is no successful commercial activities.

Does anyone else recognise the same kind of FEELING there was in the Archer/Bellotti years? Remember the way Bellotti was used as a voice piece to spread the mis-information and as a politician he was a master of it. Same feeling when I read TB and PB's notes these days.

Nothing wrong with trying to run the club on sound financial lines - this, however, is not what this is about. I'm just amazed that so many take so long to realise what's going on. Once anyone places 'making money' the Primary Objective as opposed to being in service to humanity - i.e. giving the community a team to be enjoyed - they'll be in trouble.
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Crucial Point says... There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario... If TB was even thinking of selling the club, why would he be getting rid of our most valuable assets first?[/p][/quote]Very simple because it shows the club have, at least, broken even in the financial year, or maybe they can make a small profit if they keep on selling and not replacing. That's what buyers look at first! I said it as soon as David Burke and Paul Barber were appointed. The club has lost sight of what matters in football clubs and are completely over the top with their focus on commercial activities forgetting if there is no SUCCESSFUL football team - there is no successful commercial activities. Does anyone else recognise the same kind of FEELING there was in the Archer/Bellotti years? Remember the way Bellotti was used as a voice piece to spread the mis-information and as a politician he was a master of it. Same feeling when I read TB and PB's notes these days. Nothing wrong with trying to run the club on sound financial lines - this, however, is not what this is about. I'm just amazed that so many take so long to realise what's going on. Once anyone places 'making money' the Primary Objective as opposed to being in service to humanity - i.e. giving the community a team to be enjoyed - they'll be in trouble. WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 14

3:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Saw this on BBC site today.
Brighton and Hove Albion head of football operations David Burke hopes the Football League will clamp down heavily on those clubs who fail to abide by the new Financial Fare Play rules. He is quoted as saying;
"We at Brighton have been planning and working to get in line with FFP. There are a number of clubs that we know already will not be within financial limits. We hope the FL will be really strong with the transfer embargo's and the fines or taxes are imposed properly. The idea is that these clubs will be penalised"
It won't happen, restriction of trade etc, euro courts blah blah. I still agree we should be sustainable, but league 1 is a lot less revenue than the championship, we should always be aware of that, specially as we spent so long down there in the lower leagues.

The club need to be honest, say this year our aims are mid table, there is now way Sami can be expected with the players he currently has to remotely challenge for promotion, Burnley was a one off, but even they invested in there team last year!
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Saw this on BBC site today. Brighton and Hove Albion head of football operations David Burke hopes the Football League will clamp down heavily on those clubs who fail to abide by the new Financial Fare Play rules. He is quoted as saying; "We at Brighton have been planning and working to get in line with FFP. There are a number of clubs that we know already will not be within financial limits. We hope the FL will be really strong with the transfer embargo's and the fines or taxes are imposed properly. The idea is that these clubs will be penalised"[/p][/quote]It won't happen, restriction of trade etc, euro courts blah blah. I still agree we should be sustainable, but league 1 is a lot less revenue than the championship, we should always be aware of that, specially as we spent so long down there in the lower leagues. The club need to be honest, say this year our aims are mid table, there is now way Sami can be expected with the players he currently has to remotely challenge for promotion, Burnley was a one off, but even they invested in there team last year! taylord1977
  • Score: 13

3:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

I buy two season tickets one of which is for my son who incedently was bordering on being a leeds fan until he started going to the Amex, I just spoke to him told him about Buckley and said things have got bad do you still want go, he looked at me in horror and said of coarse we are Brighton and I love it, kinda cheered me up and that's why most of us will continue to go, we are Brighton til we die
I buy two season tickets one of which is for my son who incedently was bordering on being a leeds fan until he started going to the Amex, I just spoke to him told him about Buckley and said things have got bad do you still want go, he looked at me in horror and said of coarse we are Brighton and I love it, kinda cheered me up and that's why most of us will continue to go, we are Brighton til we die Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 26

3:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Kit Napier's Beard says...

Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennets Field. No Mr Burke it's not an aged footballer without a club or future, it's a car park.
Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennets Field. No Mr Burke it's not an aged footballer without a club or future, it's a car park. Kit Napier's Beard
  • Score: 14

3:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 22

3:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

don't wanna do it like that says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
don't wanna do it like that wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
Can you actually stop you'r DD ???

You did sign up for the season.

If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season.

As long as we get entertained does it matter.

Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.
Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement.
P.S. I might be doing this if TB has not signed good enough replacements by the end of August and I shall email the club accordingly.
That part of cancelling via the bank i understand,but thought it was agreed it was for the whole season and Albion might come back too you.

I will only cancel if health or financial problems(will eat more spam-spam-spam)befor
e that happens.

Keep the faith man we aint in league 2 playing for our lives.

THE LONG AND WINDING ROAD-BEATLES
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]Can you actually stop you'r DD ??? You did sign up for the season. If you are a true fan,not a fairweather accept that Albion are not going anywhere this season. As long as we get entertained does it matter. Do you know how far TB's wallet stretches,money coming in yet we are over 14m down have to get it to max 3m,i know my maths is crap but.[/p][/quote]Yes you can stop the Direct Debit. If you have for example a bank account on line you simply click on the word "cancel" against your DD entry on the bank statement.[/p][/quote]P.S. I might be doing this if TB has not signed good enough replacements by the end of August and I shall email the club accordingly.[/p][/quote]That part of cancelling via the bank i understand,but thought it was agreed it was for the whole season and Albion might come back too you. I will only cancel if health or financial problems(will eat more spam-spam-spam)befor e that happens. Keep the faith man we aint in league 2 playing for our lives. THE LONG AND WINDING ROAD-BEATLES don't wanna do it like that
  • Score: 11

3:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

Cardiff sign Pilkington from Norwich for one million. Would have been the ideal replacement for Buckley. But no doubt they can afford his wages while we can't.
Cardiff sign Pilkington from Norwich for one million. Would have been the ideal replacement for Buckley. But no doubt they can afford his wages while we can't. heshootshescores
  • Score: 15

3:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

MickeyP says...

Another top player sold. How many millions do we now have from the sale of our best experienced players? I know the transfer window is still open, but we do not seem to be making any significant moves on this front. Secrecy is paramount until players are signed, but we seem to be way behind other clubs. If the Board is listening, your loyal paying fans deserve and explanation on what is going on. Are we selling all our player assets to clear the clubs debt from the stadium and Academy build? Does this pave the way for the club to be sold? After all Tony Bloom is a shred businessman. On the other hand he is a gambler and maybe he thinks, having cleared the debt, that we can get by this season with the youngsters and a few loans? If loans is the way forward, I could name a few from last season that should never have worn an Albion shirt. The club has to be run as a viable business, with a plan for the future. Just what is this plan? Did Gus and Garcia see a viable plan? Is Sam just a 'yes man?' A club statement is long overdue. As a loyal fan for over 50 years, I and a few thousand other supporters deserve to be treated with respect and honesty.
Another top player sold. How many millions do we now have from the sale of our best experienced players? I know the transfer window is still open, but we do not seem to be making any significant moves on this front. Secrecy is paramount until players are signed, but we seem to be way behind other clubs. If the Board is listening, your loyal paying fans deserve and explanation on what is going on. Are we selling all our player assets to clear the clubs debt from the stadium and Academy build? Does this pave the way for the club to be sold? After all Tony Bloom is a shred businessman. On the other hand he is a gambler and maybe he thinks, having cleared the debt, that we can get by this season with the youngsters and a few loans? If loans is the way forward, I could name a few from last season that should never have worn an Albion shirt. The club has to be run as a viable business, with a plan for the future. Just what is this plan? Did Gus and Garcia see a viable plan? Is Sam just a 'yes man?' A club statement is long overdue. As a loyal fan for over 50 years, I and a few thousand other supporters deserve to be treated with respect and honesty. MickeyP
  • Score: 22

3:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Kit Napier's Beard wrote:
Rougvie Legend wrote:
We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools
Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennetts Field. No Mr Burke it is not another aged footballer currently without a club and one we can get for free - it's the bloody car park!!
That made me chuckle
[quote][p][bold]Kit Napier's Beard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: We must have some quality replacements lined up surely not just cheapies or loan deals, let hope Sami was fully briefed on what our plans were before he signed or I can see him walking, I couldn't do my job if my bosses took away my tools[/p][/quote]Just heard a strong rumour that the Albion are close to buying Bennetts Field. No Mr Burke it is not another aged footballer currently without a club and one we can get for free - it's the bloody car park!![/p][/quote]That made me chuckle Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 16

3:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

heshootshescores says...

"After all Tony Bloom is a shred businessman."

He certainly is...he's shredding this team to bits.
"After all Tony Bloom is a shred businessman." He certainly is...he's shredding this team to bits. heshootshescores
  • Score: 16

3:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Perseus says...

I wish I had not bought season ticket now.
I wish I had not bought season ticket now. Perseus
  • Score: -1

3:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Come on now Vegas, many supporters are simply concerned at what they see as a real step backwards, having most of our best players sold off and not replaced adequately. Ok, some just want to stir, but I would say that the majority are simply bemused by the situation and what would seem to be a lack of honesty about our situation, particularly in view of the 'spin' given out at the recent forum.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Come on now Vegas, many supporters are simply concerned at what they see as a real step backwards, having most of our best players sold off and not replaced adequately. Ok, some just want to stir, but I would say that the majority are simply bemused by the situation and what would seem to be a lack of honesty about our situation, particularly in view of the 'spin' given out at the recent forum. dave from bexill
  • Score: 14

3:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taman says...

taylord1977

The club need to be honest, say this year our aims are mid table, there is now way Sami can be expected with the players he currently has to remotely challenge for promotion, Burnley was a one off, but even they invested in there team last year!

last season Burnley were still getting parachute payments from the prem league
taylord1977 The club need to be honest, say this year our aims are mid table, there is now way Sami can be expected with the players he currently has to remotely challenge for promotion, Burnley was a one off, but even they invested in there team last year! last season Burnley were still getting parachute payments from the prem league taman
  • Score: 14

3:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

dave from bexill wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Come on now Vegas, many supporters are simply concerned at what they see as a real step backwards, having most of our best players sold off and not replaced adequately. Ok, some just want to stir, but I would say that the majority are simply bemused by the situation and what would seem to be a lack of honesty about our situation, particularly in view of the 'spin' given out at the recent forum.
I wouldn't argue with your assesment, seems about right.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Come on now Vegas, many supporters are simply concerned at what they see as a real step backwards, having most of our best players sold off and not replaced adequately. Ok, some just want to stir, but I would say that the majority are simply bemused by the situation and what would seem to be a lack of honesty about our situation, particularly in view of the 'spin' given out at the recent forum.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't argue with your assesment, seems about right. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 12

3:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

daveyboy35 says...

IS THERE ANY LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS TUNNEL?????????? I DONT WANT TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS, I WANT TO SUPPORT A FOOTBALL CLUB!!!!!
IS THERE ANY LIGHT AT THE END OF THIS TUNNEL?????????? I DONT WANT TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS, I WANT TO SUPPORT A FOOTBALL CLUB!!!!! daveyboy35
  • Score: 14

3:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dave from bexill says...

Brightony, What do you mean when you say "How can a player like Clayton choose Middlesbrough over Brighton"?
Brightony, What do you mean when you say "How can a player like Clayton choose Middlesbrough over Brighton"? dave from bexill
  • Score: 10

3:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
I've read some of your "reasonable debating" which consists of you imposing your views on all and sundry and being patronising and insulting to those who disagree with you. If people want to "vent", then I say let them. Right now there's plenty to vent about. Perhaps you could do us all a favour and spend the next 3 years" just reading".
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]I've read some of your "reasonable debating" which consists of you imposing your views on all and sundry and being patronising and insulting to those who disagree with you. If people want to "vent", then I say let them. Right now there's plenty to vent about. Perhaps you could do us all a favour and spend the next 3 years" just reading". AlanDuffy
  • Score: 11

3:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Alan Duffy says...

Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened. Alan Duffy
  • Score: 14

3:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
I've read some of your "reasonable debating" which consists of you imposing your views on all and sundry and being patronising and insulting to those who disagree with you. If people want to "vent", then I say let them. Right now there's plenty to vent about. Perhaps you could do us all a favour and spend the next 3 years" just reading".
no problem
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]I've read some of your "reasonable debating" which consists of you imposing your views on all and sundry and being patronising and insulting to those who disagree with you. If people want to "vent", then I say let them. Right now there's plenty to vent about. Perhaps you could do us all a favour and spend the next 3 years" just reading".[/p][/quote]no problem VegasSeagull
  • Score: 10

3:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mad Mark says...

Seagulls26 wrote:
Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club.
On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees.
I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable.
Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!!
I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!!
I too was at the Goldstone, Gillingham and the Withdean, and yes I still pinch myself when I take my seat in the west upper of this wonderful stadium, but what I think is that no sensible loyal Albion fan is expecting the club to spend 16, 12, 10 or even 8 million on players, but it is plainly obvious that players are urgently needed and of a good standard. If you take some of the players mentioned (how true these are is unsure, its only Argus talk) but Ward = 500k tops (with wages), Clayton 2m, Baldock 2.5m. Thats only 5m and everyone would be excited for the season, plus the already spent 1.5m on O'Grady and Stockdale, still is a total of 6.5m with a very capable squad of achieving playoffs again. I also believe that the club does need to make a statement regarding the situation, let us know one way or another, are we cutting back and consolidating this season and pushing on once FFP is finalised and we know the implications of not adhering to it, or do we have intentions of players coming in, or have we reached the ceiling and do require further financial investment to reach the promised land.
[quote][p][bold]Seagulls26[/bold] wrote: Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club. On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees. I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable. Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!! I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!![/p][/quote]I too was at the Goldstone, Gillingham and the Withdean, and yes I still pinch myself when I take my seat in the west upper of this wonderful stadium, but what I think is that no sensible loyal Albion fan is expecting the club to spend 16, 12, 10 or even 8 million on players, but it is plainly obvious that players are urgently needed and of a good standard. If you take some of the players mentioned (how true these are is unsure, its only Argus talk) but Ward = 500k tops (with wages), Clayton 2m, Baldock 2.5m. Thats only 5m and everyone would be excited for the season, plus the already spent 1.5m on O'Grady and Stockdale, still is a total of 6.5m with a very capable squad of achieving playoffs again. I also believe that the club does need to make a statement regarding the situation, let us know one way or another, are we cutting back and consolidating this season and pushing on once FFP is finalised and we know the implications of not adhering to it, or do we have intentions of players coming in, or have we reached the ceiling and do require further financial investment to reach the promised land. Mad Mark
  • Score: 20

3:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mad Mark says...

Piglet1 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
I think this sums it up perfectly.
Whilst we have sold, albeit IMHO at excellent prices, we have yet to reinvest and it is that which will determine how good the clubs employees are. They say that they wished to be judged by the end of the window and I think we should accept the fact that it is not always an easy task to finalise some of these deals.
On the other hand it is much more difficult to stop a player wanting to leave for the Premier league where he will double or more his salary; surely that is obvious and the club cannot be blamed for that either.
We are all frustrated by the lack of signings but give the benefit of the doubt to the man who has ploughed in the money and wait and see.
Trust, don't kneejerk.
Couldn't have put it better myself
[quote][p][bold]Piglet1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]I think this sums it up perfectly. Whilst we have sold, albeit IMHO at excellent prices, we have yet to reinvest and it is that which will determine how good the clubs employees are. They say that they wished to be judged by the end of the window and I think we should accept the fact that it is not always an easy task to finalise some of these deals. On the other hand it is much more difficult to stop a player wanting to leave for the Premier league where he will double or more his salary; surely that is obvious and the club cannot be blamed for that either. We are all frustrated by the lack of signings but give the benefit of the doubt to the man who has ploughed in the money and wait and see. Trust, don't kneejerk.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have put it better myself Mad Mark
  • Score: 15

3:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

Stopped my debit on Friday no ambition so I can't be arsed anymore
Stopped my debit on Friday no ambition so I can't be arsed anymore Cliify0002
  • Score: -17

3:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

Stopped my debit on Friday no ambition so I can't be arsed anymore
Stopped my debit on Friday no ambition so I can't be arsed anymore Cliify0002
  • Score: -23

3:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

AlanDuffy says...

Alan Duffy wrote:
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
Seems there's 2 Alan Duffys on here......time to change my name if the nonsense posted above is attributed to me. Alan Duffy ( as was ).
[quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.[/p][/quote]Seems there's 2 Alan Duffys on here......time to change my name if the nonsense posted above is attributed to me. Alan Duffy ( as was ). AlanDuffy
  • Score: 11

3:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

Like all valuable commodities, truth is often counterfeited. ~James Cardinal Gibbons

just random quote
Like all valuable commodities, truth is often counterfeited. ~James Cardinal Gibbons just random quote taylord1977
  • Score: 11

3:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seagulls High says...

The problems remain that Brighton has lost two of its best strikers Ulloa, and Buckley. It may have been best for Brighton to cash in as they wanted to go to play Premiership football. They are going to be hard to replace. On the positive we still have CMS and O'Grady and Lua Lua would be good to see all three play as strikers together up front. Its not Sami's fault as he has only just joined the Club, but Brighton needs to do urgent Transfer Business before the Window closes, or we are looking at a Mid Table finish in my view. The Good news is that Brighton have a Good War Chest to spend on transfer targets.
The problems remain that Brighton has lost two of its best strikers Ulloa, and Buckley. It may have been best for Brighton to cash in as they wanted to go to play Premiership football. They are going to be hard to replace. On the positive we still have CMS and O'Grady and Lua Lua would be good to see all three play as strikers together up front. Its not Sami's fault as he has only just joined the Club, but Brighton needs to do urgent Transfer Business before the Window closes, or we are looking at a Mid Table finish in my view. The Good news is that Brighton have a Good War Chest to spend on transfer targets. Seagulls High
  • Score: 12

3:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Alan Duffy says...

It's not just the player situation that seems odd this summer, what the hell was the Sammy Lee fiasco all about? All seems a bit convenient that one minute Sami was trying to get an experienced number 2 in, to help learn from, and now he's going alone!
It's not just the player situation that seems odd this summer, what the hell was the Sammy Lee fiasco all about? All seems a bit convenient that one minute Sami was trying to get an experienced number 2 in, to help learn from, and now he's going alone! Alan Duffy
  • Score: 18

3:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
I did my best Vegas! Was it Roosevelt who famously said, "there is nothing to fear but fear itself?" It seems a little like that with some at this moment in time - I would prefer to believe that somebody who has millions at stake isn't going to jeopardise his strategy for ROI by failing to reinvest in a quality squad and to merely trouser the proceeds. Any talk of mitigating losses in light of FFP is, I believe, a red herring. Now my view may well change if nothing happens by the time September arrives but let's all please have a little more confidence in the group of people we have largely been eulogising for having put us in a position so far removed from those Withdean years.

Bl**dy well up the Albion!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]I did my best Vegas! Was it Roosevelt who famously said, "there is nothing to fear but fear itself?" It seems a little like that with some at this moment in time - I would prefer to believe that somebody who has millions at stake isn't going to jeopardise his strategy for ROI by failing to reinvest in a quality squad and to merely trouser the proceeds. Any talk of mitigating losses in light of FFP is, I believe, a red herring. Now my view may well change if nothing happens by the time September arrives but let's all please have a little more confidence in the group of people we have largely been eulogising for having put us in a position so far removed from those Withdean years. Bl**dy well up the Albion! Aye Aye
  • Score: 15

3:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

stonegold wrote:
Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien.
For or to Agustein?
[quote][p][bold]stonegold[/bold] wrote: Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien.[/p][/quote]For or to Agustein? SMF20
  • Score: 16

3:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Your looking good dutch says...

All this talk of him selling the club is complete nonsense. It would have been agreed with Dick Knight at the offset with regards selling the club.
I have never read many negative comments before.
Yes we have money to spend. How much I don't know and nor do all of the others writing on these posts. It is all pure speculation.
Patience is a virtue. I'm in no doubt that we we have an excellent squad by the end of the tx window.
Bloom is brighton through and through. Like us true Albion fans.
I for one am grateful to Tony for what he has done for this club.
Buckley is a good sale. Very injury prone.
Yes I am a little frustrated at the lack of activity at the moment, but I am sure it will be fine in the end. ~~¥~~
All this talk of him selling the club is complete nonsense. It would have been agreed with Dick Knight at the offset with regards selling the club. I have never read many negative comments before. Yes we have money to spend. How much I don't know and nor do all of the others writing on these posts. It is all pure speculation. Patience is a virtue. I'm in no doubt that we we have an excellent squad by the end of the tx window. Bloom is brighton through and through. Like us true Albion fans. I for one am grateful to Tony for what he has done for this club. Buckley is a good sale. Very injury prone. Yes I am a little frustrated at the lack of activity at the moment, but I am sure it will be fine in the end. ~~¥~~ Your looking good dutch
  • Score: 18

3:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Gaz the great says...

Rumor has that our head scout was watching a forward at Newhaven Town FC recently but as his day job paid nearly £400 p/w we couldn't afford his wages, based around the FFP system, as I say though, only a rumor!
Rumor has that our head scout was watching a forward at Newhaven Town FC recently but as his day job paid nearly £400 p/w we couldn't afford his wages, based around the FFP system, as I say though, only a rumor! Gaz the great
  • Score: -4

3:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

Interesting that Gus valued him at £10 Million when he was in charge! Perhaps Gus was advising him to keep 'injured' all last season with the sole intention of lowering his value and getting him on the cheap now!!!
Interesting that Gus valued him at £10 Million when he was in charge! Perhaps Gus was advising him to keep 'injured' all last season with the sole intention of lowering his value and getting him on the cheap now!!! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 9

3:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Tony the tiger eastbourne says...

Thanks Buckley for what you have done for us and good luck. Slightly concerned how this club is being run? Almost like its run by the KGB!! So many disillusioned fans on this site, its starting to get everyone in a panic, seeing playersturning down moves to thls club, squabbling over fees. GET A GRIP BRIGHTON!!
Thanks Buckley for what you have done for us and good luck. Slightly concerned how this club is being run? Almost like its run by the KGB!! So many disillusioned fans on this site, its starting to get everyone in a panic, seeing playersturning down moves to thls club, squabbling over fees. GET A GRIP BRIGHTON!! Tony the tiger eastbourne
  • Score: 8

3:55pm Wed 13 Aug 14

falmer seagull says...

Next to leave, sponsorsip by American Express????
Next to leave, sponsorsip by American Express???? falmer seagull
  • Score: 11

3:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Carlas mum says...

HOW TO RIP THE HEART OUT OF A CLUB IN THREE MONTHS - UNBELIEVABLE
HOW TO RIP THE HEART OUT OF A CLUB IN THREE MONTHS - UNBELIEVABLE Carlas mum
  • Score: 13

4:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

kwaidam says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
kwaidam wrote:
Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend.
Goodbye and good luck.
Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!!
I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend. Goodbye and good luck.[/p][/quote]Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!![/p][/quote]I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory. kwaidam
  • Score: 17

4:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TheDuke1 says...

At a time when all you want to read is about players coming in, this happens! I feel a fool for signing up for my season tickets (me and my son) back in March before the exodus. The real problem for the club will be next March when so many no longer see going to the Amex as value for money.
At a time when all you want to read is about players coming in, this happens! I feel a fool for signing up for my season tickets (me and my son) back in March before the exodus. The real problem for the club will be next March when so many no longer see going to the Amex as value for money. TheDuke1
  • Score: 17

4:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sheil says...

Hold your horses.....have you seen Spurs have 11 yes 11 players for sale!
I feel there's an awful lot going on behind the scenes, & can't believe Sami came here without some very strong promises. I'm sure he's a shrewd guy & would hardly be taken for a ride!

Keep the faith...there's still time!

UTA
Hold your horses.....have you seen Spurs have 11 yes 11 players for sale! I feel there's an awful lot going on behind the scenes, & can't believe Sami came here without some very strong promises. I'm sure he's a shrewd guy & would hardly be taken for a ride! Keep the faith...there's still time! UTA Sheil
  • Score: 15

4:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

Conelli98 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢
Point very much taken Conelli98.
If come the end of the Window BHA has not secured the players needed or at least all but one (at the most) then I think we fans should definitely express out dissatisfaction strongly. We should use this forum, NSC and send emails to the club to do so.
We would then be in a position to say to TB
"We waited to the end of the Window as you requested before passing judgement but it is clear that the individuals responsible for player recruitment have failed".
In this scenario I think we should then ask for an apology from the Board and also ask that there is a major change of personnel in the Recruitment Department.
Having abided with TB's request not to pass judgement until the Window is shut we will have the 'high ground'. It will be more than reasonable then for fans to ask for a proper statement and the appropriate action and not for excuses.
We clearly have some funds and with 19 days left, plenty of time to get 6 or so quality players signed.
I very much hope and trust that come 2 September that a number of new (f)aces will have joined the Albion and that the action outlined above will not be necessary. SH deserves all the support that BHA are able to give him.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢[/p][/quote]Point very much taken Conelli98. If come the end of the Window BHA has not secured the players needed or at least all but one (at the most) then I think we fans should definitely express out dissatisfaction strongly. We should use this forum, NSC and send emails to the club to do so. We would then be in a position to say to TB "We waited to the end of the Window as you requested before passing judgement but it is clear that the individuals responsible for player recruitment have failed". In this scenario I think we should then ask for an apology from the Board and also ask that there is a major change of personnel in the Recruitment Department. Having abided with TB's request not to pass judgement until the Window is shut we will have the 'high ground'. It will be more than reasonable then for fans to ask for a proper statement and the appropriate action and not for excuses. We clearly have some funds and with 19 days left, plenty of time to get 6 or so quality players signed. I very much hope and trust that come 2 September that a number of new (f)aces will have joined the Albion and that the action outlined above will not be necessary. SH deserves all the support that BHA are able to give him. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 27

4:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Many are hanging in to the hope we sign the required players buy the close of the transfer windows and this will be good business as we will have got the best price and have not had to pay wages through out the summer, if this is the case great I look forward to the signings but how many points dropped by then, the price of not getting promotion but the odd point £120n I believe
Many are hanging in to the hope we sign the required players buy the close of the transfer windows and this will be good business as we will have got the best price and have not had to pay wages through out the summer, if this is the case great I look forward to the signings but how many points dropped by then, the price of not getting promotion but the odd point £120n I believe Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 14

4:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

old codger75 says...

I've supported the Albion since 1955, had a season ticket since 1978 but this is bcoming a farce.
A Club statement is overdue. What and why! Some 10 days ago I was so concerned I asked the Club ticket office about cancelling my direct debit but was told very bluntly that while I could cancel the payment I was a few days too late to cancel th debt. The season ticket is a contract that can be cancelld before 31 July but after that the holder becomes liable for the full cost and MUST pay and in necessary he club can get payment via the courts. Not only tha but I can't sell the ticket to anyone else - the Club wont allow it. So much for being a loyal fan for 58 yeas
I've supported the Albion since 1955, had a season ticket since 1978 [including Gilligham and Withdean] but this is bcoming a farce. A Club statement is overdue. What and why! Some 10 days ago I was so concerned I asked the Club ticket office about cancelling my direct debit but was told very bluntly that while I could cancel the payment I was a few days too late to cancel th debt. The season ticket is a contract that can be cancelld before 31 July but after that the holder becomes liable for the full cost and MUST pay and in necessary he club can get payment via the courts. Not only tha but I can't sell the ticket to anyone else - the Club wont allow it. So much for being a loyal fan for 58 yeas old codger75
  • Score: 20

4:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Conelli98 wrote:
Surely It's obvious to all by now that Brighton is being run by businessmen, The football side is secondary as long as they don't look stupid it's all they care about. Anyone involved in managing a team can see it makes sense to get Ward in(IMO he should of been the first person we signed in the summer). It irks me to say that Poyet knew what was coming( he knew all about Barber from his Spurs days) and so did Oscar. I feel sorry for Sami as his reputation is going to be tarnished by Bloom, Barber and Burke.
On a final point, Tony Bloom has either made a grave error in judgement on Barber and Burke or he is preparing to sell club...but one thing is for certain THE CLUB IS NOT STAYING LOYAL TO THE FANS.
As things are going the way they are, I'm beginning to wish he would (sell). I'm ready for some REAL football management at BHA.
[quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Surely It's obvious to all by now that Brighton is being run by businessmen, The football side is secondary as long as they don't look stupid it's all they care about. Anyone involved in managing a team can see it makes sense to get Ward in(IMO he should of been the first person we signed in the summer). It irks me to say that Poyet knew what was coming( he knew all about Barber from his Spurs days) and so did Oscar. I feel sorry for Sami as his reputation is going to be tarnished by Bloom, Barber and Burke. On a final point, Tony Bloom has either made a grave error in judgement on Barber and Burke or he is preparing to sell club...but one thing is for certain THE CLUB IS NOT STAYING LOYAL TO THE FANS.[/p][/quote]As things are going the way they are, I'm beginning to wish he would (sell). I'm ready for some REAL football management at BHA. albionbloke
  • Score: 12

4:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Aye Aye says...

Seagulls High wrote:
The problems remain that Brighton has lost two of its best strikers Ulloa, and Buckley. It may have been best for Brighton to cash in as they wanted to go to play Premiership football. They are going to be hard to replace. On the positive we still have CMS and O'Grady and Lua Lua would be good to see all three play as strikers together up front. Its not Sami's fault as he has only just joined the Club, but Brighton needs to do urgent Transfer Business before the Window closes, or we are looking at a Mid Table finish in my view. The Good news is that Brighton have a Good War Chest to spend on transfer targets.
Isn't that part of the problem though SH? Isn't the fact that we've considered the likes of Barnes and Buckley our best players suggest that the standard hasn't been high enough - hardly prolific like Vokes/Ings for example. I totally agree with you though that the warchest amassed by the sale of Ulloa and Buckley needs to be invested in quality.

We don't have to look too far along the coast to see how a Championship club with limited resources can build a squad to challenge for promotion!

UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Seagulls High[/bold] wrote: The problems remain that Brighton has lost two of its best strikers Ulloa, and Buckley. It may have been best for Brighton to cash in as they wanted to go to play Premiership football. They are going to be hard to replace. On the positive we still have CMS and O'Grady and Lua Lua would be good to see all three play as strikers together up front. Its not Sami's fault as he has only just joined the Club, but Brighton needs to do urgent Transfer Business before the Window closes, or we are looking at a Mid Table finish in my view. The Good news is that Brighton have a Good War Chest to spend on transfer targets.[/p][/quote]Isn't that part of the problem though SH? Isn't the fact that we've considered the likes of Barnes and Buckley our best players suggest that the standard hasn't been high enough - hardly prolific like Vokes/Ings for example. I totally agree with you though that the warchest amassed by the sale of Ulloa and Buckley needs to be invested in quality. We don't have to look too far along the coast to see how a Championship club with limited resources can build a squad to challenge for promotion! UTA. Aye Aye
  • Score: 15

4:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Many are hanging in to the hope we sign the required players buy the close of the transfer windows and this will be good business as we will have got the best price and have not had to pay wages through out the summer, if this is the case great I look forward to the signings but how many points dropped by then, the price of not getting promotion buy the odd point £120m I believe
Many are hanging in to the hope we sign the required players buy the close of the transfer windows and this will be good business as we will have got the best price and have not had to pay wages through out the summer, if this is the case great I look forward to the signings but how many points dropped by then, the price of not getting promotion buy the odd point £120m I believe Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 17

4:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
Crucial Point wrote:
There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...
Could be administration you know, the selling of anybody worth a few quid first and then the fixtures and fittings. All the things the club are doing right now concur with it anyway. My guess is Bloom built the Amex with his money and assumed we'd be in the premier league within a season or two and that the riches from that would pay him back for the stadium and then some. However we never made it to the prem and so Bloom is possibly trying to plug a huge hole in his own finances with money from the club, and simply passes off the selling of players and little expenditure under FFP and if that doesn't work then who knows what happens. So we're left with a squad with little quality and unhappy supporters, really we needed to have beaten palace in that play off and then Bloom would have got his money and we'd all be happy. Either that or we need Arabs or Russians to suddenly have a brainwave of buying us and pumping money into the club. I suspect there is some panicking going on behind the scenes right now and probably has been for some time now.
Oh please NO! NO! No Arabs or Russians or Yanks! No!
I really wouldn't want us to sell our soul for short term gains. Are we really to be happy with being a rich oligarchs plaything? Tossed aside at the first hint of boredom from the owner?
I'd rather be League 1!
Have some pride, guys.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crucial Point[/bold] wrote: There is something most seriously wrong at the Club and in the next few weeks, I have little doubt we shall all learn what is really happening. Sale of the club most likely scenario...[/p][/quote]Could be administration you know, the selling of anybody worth a few quid first and then the fixtures and fittings. All the things the club are doing right now concur with it anyway. My guess is Bloom built the Amex with his money and assumed we'd be in the premier league within a season or two and that the riches from that would pay him back for the stadium and then some. However we never made it to the prem and so Bloom is possibly trying to plug a huge hole in his own finances with money from the club, and simply passes off the selling of players and little expenditure under FFP and if that doesn't work then who knows what happens. So we're left with a squad with little quality and unhappy supporters, really we needed to have beaten palace in that play off and then Bloom would have got his money and we'd all be happy. Either that or we need Arabs or Russians to suddenly have a brainwave of buying us and pumping money into the club. I suspect there is some panicking going on behind the scenes right now and probably has been for some time now.[/p][/quote]Oh please NO! NO! No Arabs or Russians or Yanks! No! I really wouldn't want us to sell our soul for short term gains. Are we really to be happy with being a rich oligarchs plaything? Tossed aside at the first hint of boredom from the owner? I'd rather be League 1! Have some pride, guys. Max Ripple
  • Score: 16

4:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

northernseagull says...

I had hear Bloom admired the Southampton set up. I assumed he meant the training academy but as another top player leaves maybe I had misunderstood his comment and he was just referring to the transfer policy?!
I had hear Bloom admired the Southampton set up. I assumed he meant the training academy but as another top player leaves maybe I had misunderstood his comment and he was just referring to the transfer policy?! northernseagull
  • Score: 13

4:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Sorry for double post grrr
Sorry for double post grrr Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 9

4:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today.

The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number.

Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in?

The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in.

Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will.

Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender?

Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books.

The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days.

Ok now I have vented.
There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today. The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number. Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in? The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in. Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will. Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender? Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books. The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days. Ok now I have vented. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 30

4:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

pte says...

There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down.

Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality

Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks
There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down. Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks pte
  • Score: 21

4:27pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mancgulled says...

Just got back from California from hols and wondering if I am still suffering hallucinatory jet-lag . just can't believe it. He must be clearing the debt on a proviso to sell to someone - he said the fans would be "happy at the end of the season" didn't he? or was it come January? Surely has to be what he means - thought talk of relegation was ridiculous but now we seem to have gone back before that golden time where we signed Bennett, Barnes and Murray, to my mind they were the first 3 signings that were of a significantly different quality but now we are at a time prior to that. Love Wardy but think he is now the least of our worries. The club obviously don't want to buy - they must surely be selling!?
Just got back from California from hols and wondering if I am still suffering hallucinatory jet-lag . just can't believe it. He must be clearing the debt on a proviso to sell to someone - he said the fans would be "happy at the end of the season" didn't he? or was it come January? Surely has to be what he means - thought talk of relegation was ridiculous but now we seem to have gone back before that golden time where we signed Bennett, Barnes and Murray, to my mind they were the first 3 signings that were of a significantly different quality but now we are at a time prior to that. Love Wardy but think he is now the least of our worries. The club obviously don't want to buy - they must surely be selling!? Mancgulled
  • Score: 3

4:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

JollyRoger says...

How can we keep saying we're not a selling club when, clearly, we are? What are not, is a buying club.
How can we keep saying we're not a selling club when, clearly, we are? What are not, is a buying club. JollyRoger
  • Score: 15

4:44pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Gaz the great wrote:
Rumor has that our head scout was watching a forward at Newhaven Town FC recently but as his day job paid nearly £400 p/w we couldn't afford his wages, based around the FFP system, as I say though, only a rumor!
...the lad in question has now been signed by Whitehawk!
[quote][p][bold]Gaz the great[/bold] wrote: Rumor has that our head scout was watching a forward at Newhaven Town FC recently but as his day job paid nearly £400 p/w we couldn't afford his wages, based around the FFP system, as I say though, only a rumor![/p][/quote]...the lad in question has now been signed by Whitehawk! Conelli98
  • Score: 12

4:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Another way of looking things---players want to play in the Premiership--so we have Ulloa, Barnes Bridcutt, Buckley Bennett Murray Upson--all left to play in the Premiership--what chance the rest??
My thoughts-VEGAS--had crossed my mind that TB is reducing debt to attract --say-- a 40% partner to buy in. Everything in place apart from players. Could a new partner help do that?? As there seems to be no intent on bringing in quality Premiership type players this season and how can you attract those kind of players when our good players are leaving---granted Buckley has a serious question mark over fitness for US---remains to be seen how his fitness levels stack up at Sunderland?? As many have indicated, the more time goes on with NO inward flow of players the more folk think there is more to this than meets the eye. TB a gambling man and I would not put it past him to gamble on something here. He has put millions into the club so will want a better return for his money and if he is half the fan he says he is it better be good. Better than a mystery thriller!!!
Another way of looking things---players want to play in the Premiership--so we have Ulloa, Barnes Bridcutt, Buckley Bennett Murray Upson--all left to play in the Premiership--what chance the rest?? My thoughts-VEGAS--had crossed my mind that TB is reducing debt to attract --say-- a 40% partner to buy in. Everything in place apart from players. Could a new partner help do that?? As there seems to be no intent on bringing in quality Premiership type players this season and how can you attract those kind of players when our good players are leaving---granted Buckley has a serious question mark over fitness for US---remains to be seen how his fitness levels stack up at Sunderland?? As many have indicated, the more time goes on with NO inward flow of players the more folk think there is more to this than meets the eye. TB a gambling man and I would not put it past him to gamble on something here. He has put millions into the club so will want a better return for his money and if he is half the fan he says he is it better be good. Better than a mystery thriller!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 2

4:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

Mayfield sweeper wrote:
I'm off to watch Eastbourne Borough they don't mess their supporters about like the albion do. It's become an utter embarrassment at the Amex.
Thank goodness. I am sure they can't wait.
[quote][p][bold]Mayfield sweeper[/bold] wrote: I'm off to watch Eastbourne Borough they don't mess their supporters about like the albion do. It's become an utter embarrassment at the Amex.[/p][/quote]Thank goodness. I am sure they can't wait. Piglet1
  • Score: 9

5:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

kwaidam wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
kwaidam wrote:
Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend.
Goodbye and good luck.
Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!!
I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory.
Nope I wasn't there but my point is no less valid. Sure he rates a part in our history, but players like Peter Ward or Tug Wilson are legends for their srvice and attainment over a number of deciated years. At 24, WB has been a solid, admirable player, but in my book, not a legend in the true sense.
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend. Goodbye and good luck.[/p][/quote]Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!![/p][/quote]I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory.[/p][/quote]Nope I wasn't there but my point is no less valid. Sure he rates a part in our history, but players like Peter Ward or Tug Wilson are legends for their srvice and attainment over a number of deciated years. At 24, WB has been a solid, admirable player, but in my book, not a legend in the true sense. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 9

5:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

TheDuke1 says...

Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season.

• 29 Kuszczak
• 14 Calderon
• 17 Ward
• 04 Andrews
• 03 Greer
• 20 Upson
• 18 Forster-Caskey
• 11 Orlandi
• 19 Ulloa
• 30 Buckley
• 35 Lingard

My point being???
Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season. • 29 Kuszczak • 14 Calderon • 17 Ward • 04 Andrews • 03 Greer • 20 Upson • 18 Forster-Caskey • 11 Orlandi • 19 Ulloa • 30 Buckley • 35 Lingard My point being??? TheDuke1
  • Score: 13

5:05pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

don't wanna do it like that wrote:
Just went on the Albion site,story about Dunk's first goal seems its coming online the 14th now that is what i call fast news as today is the 13th.

What more do we want.
His family have almost full control over this paper so the Dunk PR machine will be in full force.Southampton are thinking about a move for Solly now but like their scouts said to me last night i wouldn't take Dunk or JFC even on a free.We are now looking at another ex-Barnsley big time drunk that no other clubs in the country even want on a free and for good reason.
[quote][p][bold]don't wanna do it like that[/bold] wrote: Just went on the Albion site,story about Dunk's first goal seems its coming online the 14th now that is what i call fast news as today is the 13th. What more do we want.[/p][/quote]His family have almost full control over this paper so the Dunk PR machine will be in full force.Southampton are thinking about a move for Solly now but like their scouts said to me last night i wouldn't take Dunk or JFC even on a free.We are now looking at another ex-Barnsley big time drunk that no other clubs in the country even want on a free and for good reason. Please wake up
  • Score: -5

5:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

I know many have posted--We must be patient--and Wait until the Transfer window Closes etc---but at the moment I cannot see BHA signing an autograph!!!
I know many have posted--We must be patient--and Wait until the Transfer window Closes etc---but at the moment I cannot see BHA signing an autograph!!! mikeygit
  • Score: 5

5:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

Carlas mum wrote:
HOW TO RIP THE HEART OUT OF A CLUB IN THREE MONTHS - UNBELIEVABLE
Another alias.
[quote][p][bold]Carlas mum[/bold] wrote: HOW TO RIP THE HEART OUT OF A CLUB IN THREE MONTHS - UNBELIEVABLE[/p][/quote]Another alias. Piglet1
  • Score: 4

5:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

stevebh says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today.

The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number.

Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in?

The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in.

Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will.

Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender?

Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books.

The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days.

Ok now I have vented.
Good post !
Just tell us things are happening....at the moment the silence is deafening esp with lots of available players going to other clubs....Billy Sharpe would have been a cracking signing

UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today. The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number. Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in? The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in. Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will. Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender? Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books. The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days. Ok now I have vented.[/p][/quote]Good post ! Just tell us things are happening....at the moment the silence is deafening esp with lots of available players going to other clubs....Billy Sharpe would have been a cracking signing UTA stevebh
  • Score: 1

5:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

JollyRoger wrote:
How can we keep saying we're not a selling club when, clearly, we are? What are not, is a buying club.
Like i have always said you can only sell players that are wanted by other clubs.We are now left with the vile pure rubbish that no other clubs in the country would want in a million years.The real fans must turn now and stop going into the ground.Plus if you can call your bank and stop all money.
[quote][p][bold]JollyRoger[/bold] wrote: How can we keep saying we're not a selling club when, clearly, we are? What are not, is a buying club.[/p][/quote]Like i have always said you can only sell players that are wanted by other clubs.We are now left with the vile pure rubbish that no other clubs in the country would want in a million years.The real fans must turn now and stop going into the ground.Plus if you can call your bank and stop all money. Please wake up
  • Score: -1

5:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate,

On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today,
Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate, On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today, JeffLomer
  • Score: 10

5:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

AlastairWatts says...

Someone had better ring Dick Knight this week and have him on standby for what appears to be an inevitable collapse.... Hey, he did it once before, why not now?
Someone had better ring Dick Knight this week and have him on standby for what appears to be an inevitable collapse.... Hey, he did it once before, why not now? AlastairWatts
  • Score: 12

5:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

Just don't turn up on a Saturday simple protest
Just don't turn up on a Saturday simple protest Cliify0002
  • Score: -8

5:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

We have been fed a lot of flannel I'm not paying money to watch a team of kids and past it players the next will be lua after that Sami will walk
We have been fed a lot of flannel I'm not paying money to watch a team of kids and past it players the next will be lua after that Sami will walk Cliify0002
  • Score: -8

5:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chills says...

TheDuke1 wrote:
At a time when all you want to read is about players coming in, this happens! I feel a fool for signing up for my season tickets (me and my son) back in March before the exodus. The real problem for the club will be next March when so many no longer see going to the Amex as value for money.
In March I will be applying my own household FFP rules to the cost of my Brighton season ticket and whether it provides sufficient excitement to justify the continued outlay. Things will have to radically change based on the last three months. "One club, one silence".
[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote: At a time when all you want to read is about players coming in, this happens! I feel a fool for signing up for my season tickets (me and my son) back in March before the exodus. The real problem for the club will be next March when so many no longer see going to the Amex as value for money.[/p][/quote]In March I will be applying my own household FFP rules to the cost of my Brighton season ticket and whether it provides sufficient excitement to justify the continued outlay. Things will have to radically change based on the last three months. "One club, one silence". Chills
  • Score: 14

5:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

JeffLomer wrote:
Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate,

On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today,
Now his got the move he wanted watch the injuries go away lol.He wanted out last season along with Ulloa because like Bridcutt the good players saw this coming.We should have got 6 million Jeff.
[quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate, On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today,[/p][/quote]Now his got the move he wanted watch the injuries go away lol.He wanted out last season along with Ulloa because like Bridcutt the good players saw this coming.We should have got 6 million Jeff. Please wake up
  • Score: 5

5:48pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

It's becoming like asset stripping or a fire sale.
Have we got anybody else we can sell???!!!
Every quality player sold and replaced by a cut price or on loan journeyman player.
Something must be going on.
Surely these aren't footballing decisions.
It's becoming like asset stripping or a fire sale. Have we got anybody else we can sell???!!! Every quality player sold and replaced by a cut price or on loan journeyman player. Something must be going on. Surely these aren't footballing decisions. sussexram40
  • Score: 7

5:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

skylight says...

Have to remember that the club has made a massive investment in the Amex and the training ground o other clubs ,like Leicester, nearly went to the wall after they did that. A tight grip on the purse is essential.

It is hard to keep good players if they have the chance of Prem League - what would you want to do in Buckley's position?

We have made a good profit although it is hard to see him go
Have to remember that the club has made a massive investment in the Amex and the training ground o other clubs ,like Leicester, nearly went to the wall after they did that. A tight grip on the purse is essential. It is hard to keep good players if they have the chance of Prem League - what would you want to do in Buckley's position? We have made a good profit although it is hard to see him go skylight
  • Score: 12

5:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

TheDuke1 wrote:
Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season.

• 29 Kuszczak
• 14 Calderon
• 17 Ward
• 04 Andrews
• 03 Greer
• 20 Upson
• 18 Forster-Caskey
• 11 Orlandi
• 19 Ulloa
• 30 Buckley
• 35 Lingard

My point being???
Who would have thought that 8 of our starting line up in the last league game of last season would be gone in 2 or 3 months?

What's going on???

Kuszczak - GONE
Ward - GONE
Andrews - GONE
Upson - GONE
Orlandi - GONE
Ulloa - GONE
Buckley - GONE
Lingard - GONE
[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote: Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season. • 29 Kuszczak • 14 Calderon • 17 Ward • 04 Andrews • 03 Greer • 20 Upson • 18 Forster-Caskey • 11 Orlandi • 19 Ulloa • 30 Buckley • 35 Lingard My point being???[/p][/quote]Who would have thought that 8 of our starting line up in the last league game of last season would be gone in 2 or 3 months? What's going on??? Kuszczak - GONE Ward - GONE Andrews - GONE Upson - GONE Orlandi - GONE Ulloa - GONE Buckley - GONE Lingard - GONE sussexram40
  • Score: 9

5:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Please wake up wrote:
JeffLomer wrote:
Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate,

On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today,
Now his got the move he wanted watch the injuries go away lol.He wanted out last season along with Ulloa because like Bridcutt the good players saw this coming.We should have got 6 million Jeff.
A fit Buckley is worth easy 6 million, I remember poyet saying if Zaha is worth 15 million when he joined united what is Will worth, I'm sure he didn't mean the fee what we've agreed to sell him for, don't make sense the fee, they got a bargain in my opinion!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Please wake up[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JeffLomer[/bold] wrote: Hi Dave and Vegas, I've been reading the posts, put two on this morning, I think Buckley has gone far to cheap to a premiership club, that's another debate, On another note Billy Sharp joined Leeds today,[/p][/quote]Now his got the move he wanted watch the injuries go away lol.He wanted out last season along with Ulloa because like Bridcutt the good players saw this coming.We should have got 6 million Jeff.[/p][/quote]A fit Buckley is worth easy 6 million, I remember poyet saying if Zaha is worth 15 million when he joined united what is Will worth, I'm sure he didn't mean the fee what we've agreed to sell him for, don't make sense the fee, they got a bargain in my opinion!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 8

5:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
On holiday, but waiting for the inevitable binfestery to subside.

Notable that the known trolls and wums are getting thumbs up. So many new ones (same few?) it's hard to keep up.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]On holiday, but waiting for the inevitable binfestery to subside. Notable that the known trolls and wums are getting thumbs up. So many new ones (same few?) it's hard to keep up. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -2

5:59pm Wed 13 Aug 14

taylord1977 says...

I see billy sharp is reportedly going to leeds for 500k, are we missing the boat here as well? Proven at this level, half a million is a snip
I see billy sharp is reportedly going to leeds for 500k, are we missing the boat here as well? Proven at this level, half a million is a snip taylord1977
  • Score: 9

6:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: -1

6:19pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ontheline says...

kwaidam wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
kwaidam wrote:
Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend.
Goodbye and good luck.
Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!!
I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory.
Well said, what a day and there have been others when Will has produced the goods, sad day for the Albion.
[quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kwaidam[/bold] wrote: Ps.. Will Buckley. Albion legend. Goodbye and good luck.[/p][/quote]Appreciate the sentiment, but I'd hardly call him a 'legend'!![/p][/quote]I think you will find anyone who was at the Amex against Donny will disagree with you. You can be legends for different reasons. Will Buckley's two goals that day gave him legendary status. I can only presume you were not there. Will Buckley legend for making a special day a once in a lifetime memory.[/p][/quote]Well said, what a day and there have been others when Will has produced the goods, sad day for the Albion. Ontheline
  • Score: 4

6:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Millionmileman says...

Could see this happening penny pinching at every level, turned my season ticket in last season will go to a few games home and away, like other posts have said they're businessmen not sportsmen, never liked that Barber, this is all about getting funding for that wretched hotel. All us loyal fans don't expect much on the pitch front for the next couple of seasons
Could see this happening penny pinching at every level, turned my season ticket in last season will go to a few games home and away, like other posts have said they're businessmen not sportsmen, never liked that Barber, this is all about getting funding for that wretched hotel. All us loyal fans don't expect much on the pitch front for the next couple of seasons Millionmileman
  • Score: 2

6:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

impose our game gull says...

MHubbs wrote:
If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please!
Great news that we've managed (currently anyway!!) to hold on to Rohan, Solly and Kazenga ..... Transfers IN must be being reported on a different site.

Price? £12 for adults last night and £6/ £1 for under 18s/ youngsters and 5,900 BHA fans in the Amex on a fine weather evening
[quote][p][bold]MHubbs[/bold] wrote: If we carry on like this there will be no one left to watch! With some of the highest ticket prices in the championship, can we really be expected to keep turning out to watch a bunch of kids on a Saturday for the next year or two?? By all means reduce the gate price if we are not planning on producing a competitive side, please![/p][/quote]Great news that we've managed (currently anyway!!) to hold on to Rohan, Solly and Kazenga ..... Transfers IN must be being reported on a different site. Price? £12 for adults last night and £6/ £1 for under 18s/ youngsters and 5,900 BHA fans in the Amex on a fine weather evening impose our game gull
  • Score: 4

6:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

arc12 says...

The problem is also that some of our floating support my walk away and as much as I'd like everyone to stick with the club through these troubling times, football's just not like that. A colleague of mine in my office today cancelled his Season Ticket DD as he's totally frustrated (which I still feel is a bit pathetic to be honest) but how many like him might follow suit?

A plea to all fans - please stick with it - It may be a poor season but we have to keep supporting the lads we have as it's not their fault the power's at be couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery.

See you at Birmingham on Saturday.
The problem is also that some of our floating support my walk away and as much as I'd like everyone to stick with the club through these troubling times, football's just not like that. A colleague of mine in my office today cancelled his Season Ticket DD as he's totally frustrated (which I still feel is a bit pathetic to be honest) but how many like him might follow suit? A plea to all fans - please stick with it - It may be a poor season but we have to keep supporting the lads we have as it's not their fault the power's at be couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery. See you at Birmingham on Saturday. arc12
  • Score: 4

6:34pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

What if LuaLua is sold?
He seems the next most sellable player asset we have.
What if LuaLua is sold? He seems the next most sellable player asset we have. sussexram40
  • Score: 1

6:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)
Ha ha , how superiority eludes you,
I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass,
You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again.
Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha , how superiority eludes you, I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass, You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again. Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here? mark by the sea
  • Score: 9

6:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

arc12 wrote:
The problem is also that some of our floating support my walk away and as much as I'd like everyone to stick with the club through these troubling times, football's just not like that. A colleague of mine in my office today cancelled his Season Ticket DD as he's totally frustrated (which I still feel is a bit pathetic to be honest) but how many like him might follow suit?

A plea to all fans - please stick with it - It may be a poor season but we have to keep supporting the lads we have as it's not their fault the power's at be couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery.

See you at Birmingham on Saturday.
They should have said this before they took season ticket money..
I have lost some respect for TB
[quote][p][bold]arc12[/bold] wrote: The problem is also that some of our floating support my walk away and as much as I'd like everyone to stick with the club through these troubling times, football's just not like that. A colleague of mine in my office today cancelled his Season Ticket DD as he's totally frustrated (which I still feel is a bit pathetic to be honest) but how many like him might follow suit? A plea to all fans - please stick with it - It may be a poor season but we have to keep supporting the lads we have as it's not their fault the power's at be couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery. See you at Birmingham on Saturday.[/p][/quote]They should have said this before they took season ticket money.. I have lost some respect for TB mark by the sea
  • Score: 5

6:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

WisdomSpeaks says...

sussexram40 wrote:
What if LuaLua is sold?
He seems the next most sellable player asset we have.
Solly March is the most saleable talent and that's why they've given him a 4 year contract. Not to build for the future but to increase his sale price now!
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: What if LuaLua is sold? He seems the next most sellable player asset we have.[/p][/quote]Solly March is the most saleable talent and that's why they've given him a 4 year contract. Not to build for the future but to increase his sale price now! WisdomSpeaks
  • Score: 5

6:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Jaguar_uk says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
Conelli98 wrote:
Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...
Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do.
If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?).
Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us.
Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell
If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process
By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals.
I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days.
UTA.
It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢
Point very much taken Conelli98.
If come the end of the Window BHA has not secured the players needed or at least all but one (at the most) then I think we fans should definitely express out dissatisfaction strongly. We should use this forum, NSC and send emails to the club to do so.
We would then be in a position to say to TB
"We waited to the end of the Window as you requested before passing judgement but it is clear that the individuals responsible for player recruitment have failed".
In this scenario I think we should then ask for an apology from the Board and also ask that there is a major change of personnel in the Recruitment Department.
Having abided with TB's request not to pass judgement until the Window is shut we will have the 'high ground'. It will be more than reasonable then for fans to ask for a proper statement and the appropriate action and not for excuses.
We clearly have some funds and with 19 days left, plenty of time to get 6 or so quality players signed.
I very much hope and trust that come 2 September that a number of new (f)aces will have joined the Albion and that the action outlined above will not be necessary. SH deserves all the support that BHA are able to give him.
UTA.
I love (and respect) your optimism, problem is as most ppl now realise is that the only players that will left to sign are the most mercenary ones who hold out for the money or the ones nobody else wants.
Not sure what has happened to the club and looking back I guess Gus was right, hoping that the suits are ousted before it's too late.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Conelli98[/bold] wrote: Will stop direct debit for Season ticket later. Had enough...[/p][/quote]Conelli98, knowing how strongly you feel about the Albion as evidenced by your posts, why don't you at least wait until this Transfer Window has closed before passing judgement as TB has asked fans to do. If Burke & Co don't deliver the quality players that SH wants, and clearly BHA needs, then by all means 'jack in' your Season Ticket. Stopping something is always easier than starting it or reinstating it (and would you get the same seat ?). Don't overlook the fact that to date TB has bank rolled the club to the tune of £150 million for the Amex and the new Training Academy as well as covering the clubs losses for the last few years. He doesn't want the club to fail any more than the rest of us. Whether or not TB is right to place his trust in Burke and his team to get players signed is of course the key question. Time will tell If the recruitment side fails this Window then even TB I think will have to face up to the fact that it might not be the structure or methodology that is at fault regarding player acquisitions but more the personnel involved handling the process By the way I would not be happy if we only get 2or 3 new players in by the end of the month and we have to use the Loan Window to get 3 or 4 more players signed on short term deals. I really hope that TB makes sure that the Albion gives SH all the support he wants, needs and deserves. Try and keep believing in TB Conelli98 at least for the next 19 days. UTA.[/p][/quote]It feels abit like your wife cheating on you Ballantrrae , how many times do you forgive her and will you ever trust again!💔😢[/p][/quote]Point very much taken Conelli98. If come the end of the Window BHA has not secured the players needed or at least all but one (at the most) then I think we fans should definitely express out dissatisfaction strongly. We should use this forum, NSC and send emails to the club to do so. We would then be in a position to say to TB "We waited to the end of the Window as you requested before passing judgement but it is clear that the individuals responsible for player recruitment have failed". In this scenario I think we should then ask for an apology from the Board and also ask that there is a major change of personnel in the Recruitment Department. Having abided with TB's request not to pass judgement until the Window is shut we will have the 'high ground'. It will be more than reasonable then for fans to ask for a proper statement and the appropriate action and not for excuses. We clearly have some funds and with 19 days left, plenty of time to get 6 or so quality players signed. I very much hope and trust that come 2 September that a number of new (f)aces will have joined the Albion and that the action outlined above will not be necessary. SH deserves all the support that BHA are able to give him. UTA.[/p][/quote]I love (and respect) your optimism, problem is as most ppl now realise is that the only players that will left to sign are the most mercenary ones who hold out for the money or the ones nobody else wants. Not sure what has happened to the club and looking back I guess Gus was right, hoping that the suits are ousted before it's too late. Jaguar_uk
  • Score: 8

6:58pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)
Ha ha , how superiority eludes you,
I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass,
You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again.
Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?
Outstanding post MBTS you win yet again.Note they have both been away from the site at the same time lol haha.Not really hard to work out is it lol? If they get me removed again all real fans start phoning the Argus in numbers its time they was both removed from this site for good.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha , how superiority eludes you, I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass, You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again. Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?[/p][/quote]Outstanding post MBTS you win yet again.Note they have both been away from the site at the same time lol haha.Not really hard to work out is it lol? If they get me removed again all real fans start phoning the Argus in numbers its time they was both removed from this site for good. Please wake up
  • Score: -1

7:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

tug509 says...

It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .
It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE . tug509
  • Score: -1

7:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
sussexram40 wrote:
What if LuaLua is sold?
He seems the next most sellable player asset we have.
Solly March is the most saleable talent and that's why they've given him a 4 year contract. Not to build for the future but to increase his sale price now!
Could it be suspicious that March hasn't played this season, a few months after a new 4 year deal.
Another Buckley?
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: What if LuaLua is sold? He seems the next most sellable player asset we have.[/p][/quote]Solly March is the most saleable talent and that's why they've given him a 4 year contract. Not to build for the future but to increase his sale price now![/p][/quote]Could it be suspicious that March hasn't played this season, a few months after a new 4 year deal. Another Buckley? sussexram40
  • Score: 3

7:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

tug509 wrote:
It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .
Politicians do it every day, in front of millions.
These super rich money types in suits have got no scruples. They aren't good, honest, down to earth types like us. They're a different breed I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .[/p][/quote]Politicians do it every day, in front of millions. These super rich money types in suits have got no scruples. They aren't good, honest, down to earth types like us. They're a different breed I'm afraid. sussexram40
  • Score: 1

7:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

taylord1977 wrote:
Amex should be renamed the titanic....

Any other possible rebranding anyone, just to lighten the mood, humour always helps when your down.
How about Noah's Ark but with no animals.
[quote][p][bold]taylord1977[/bold] wrote: Amex should be renamed the titanic.... Any other possible rebranding anyone, just to lighten the mood, humour always helps when your down.[/p][/quote]How about Noah's Ark but with no animals. Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: -1

7:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Cliify0002 says...

It's got nice grass for donkeys lol .
It's got nice grass for donkeys lol . Cliify0002
  • Score: -2

7:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

wrighty2908 says...

Seagulls26 wrote:
Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club.
On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees.
I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable.
Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!!
I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!!
I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA.
[quote][p][bold]Seagulls26[/bold] wrote: Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club. On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees. I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable. Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!! I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA. wrighty2908
  • Score: 10

7:24pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Seagull John says...

Thank goodness. £2.5m. That's a lot of money. Now we can buy a new player or two. Oh, wait a minute....
Thank goodness. £2.5m. That's a lot of money. Now we can buy a new player or two. Oh, wait a minute.... Seagull John
  • Score: 2

7:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Jaguar_uk says...

wrighty2908 wrote:
Seagulls26 wrote:
Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club.
On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees.
I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable.
Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!!
I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!!
I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA.
Take off those rose tinted specs and your open eyes to the current situation!
From many peoples point of view the club are already doing a Leeds without the luxury of the memories of the glory days
[quote][p][bold]wrighty2908[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls26[/bold] wrote: Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club. On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees. I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable. Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!! I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA.[/p][/quote]Take off those rose tinted specs and your open eyes to the current situation! From many peoples point of view the club are already doing a Leeds without the luxury of the memories of the glory days Jaguar_uk
  • Score: 6

7:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

sussexram40 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .
Politicians do it every day, in front of millions.
These super rich money types in suits have got no scruples. They aren't good, honest, down to earth types like us. They're a different breed I'm afraid.
The best post and most honest in the history of this site.People like you sussexeam40 still give me hope in man-kind. They are not only not good honest down to earth types like us they are also pure evil.They don't want big amounts of money to do good they use it for pure evil.They think the same as the players do about these so called die-hard fans that will put up with any rubbish and see know wrong in the club.Sad little people with no real lifes is all they think.I remember Vegas & Ex-Pat telling me how much Buckley loved the club and fans when he signed that 4 year contract lol.Grow up its just about money like i said then and pushing up his price.No lad from up north love Brighton football club apart from Peter Ward.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .[/p][/quote]Politicians do it every day, in front of millions. These super rich money types in suits have got no scruples. They aren't good, honest, down to earth types like us. They're a different breed I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]The best post and most honest in the history of this site.People like you sussexeam40 still give me hope in man-kind. They are not only not good honest down to earth types like us they are also pure evil.They don't want big amounts of money to do good they use it for pure evil.They think the same as the players do about these so called die-hard fans that will put up with any rubbish and see know wrong in the club.Sad little people with no real lifes is all they think.I remember Vegas & Ex-Pat telling me how much Buckley loved the club and fans when he signed that 4 year contract lol.Grow up its just about money like i said then and pushing up his price.No lad from up north love Brighton football club apart from Peter Ward. Please wake up
  • Score: -10

7:37pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

tug509 wrote:
It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .
Not really tug509 they all have minders if things get out of hand.Its not like the Dick Knight days now these people with their money and contacts can get people very hurt without getting into trouble.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: It must take some real nerve to sit in front of several hundred people and plain LIE .[/p][/quote]Not really tug509 they all have minders if things get out of hand.Its not like the Dick Knight days now these people with their money and contacts can get people very hurt without getting into trouble. Please wake up
  • Score: -6

7:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Please wake up says...

Who still thinks Sammy Lee was still wrong to change his mind?
Who still thinks Sammy Lee was still wrong to change his mind? Please wake up
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Lamby63 says...

The club physios must be panicking that there will be job cuts with Buckley gone , I have to say I cant remember him having a good 90 minute game , ok if opposition play a high line but no good when there is no space in behind and final ball is shocking
The club physios must be panicking that there will be job cuts with Buckley gone , I have to say I cant remember him having a good 90 minute game , ok if opposition play a high line but no good when there is no space in behind and final ball is shocking Lamby63
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mayfield sweeper says...

It seems to me the Amex stadium while a superb ground could turn out to be our achilles heel because of the huge cost of the place. Bloom I am sure expected to make back his money through the riches of the premier league but with no promotion forthcoming it's player sales and supporters money that are paying for it now instead. Ironically we were probably better off at the Withdean simply because there was no pressure of trying to recoup millions of pounds for a stadium. Ok we'd probably be in the lower divisions still but now we're heading back there anyway, except saddled with the huge cost of building the Amex. We need lots and lots of money it would appear.
It seems to me the Amex stadium while a superb ground could turn out to be our achilles heel because of the huge cost of the place. Bloom I am sure expected to make back his money through the riches of the premier league but with no promotion forthcoming it's player sales and supporters money that are paying for it now instead. Ironically we were probably better off at the Withdean simply because there was no pressure of trying to recoup millions of pounds for a stadium. Ok we'd probably be in the lower divisions still but now we're heading back there anyway, except saddled with the huge cost of building the Amex. We need lots and lots of money it would appear. Mayfield sweeper
  • Score: 3

7:46pm Wed 13 Aug 14

line level and gauge says...

I'm clearly not a true fan becuse I only go to half a dozen games a year and most of those are away (i live in Worcestershire) and my brain probably belongs to someone else but could all those who think TB is getting ready to sell the club explain why?
I looked at how much Leeds was sold for (lots of posters on this site telling me they are a big club) and it looked to me to be about £30M tops.
So if TB is a good businessman why would he spend £150M on fixed assetts and finance a £14M a season loss to sell for £30M?
I'm not saying I'm happy about our recent transfer activity (especially the inbound bit) but I can't see the logic of some of the arguments
I'm clearly not a true fan becuse I only go to half a dozen games a year and most of those are away (i live in Worcestershire) and my brain probably belongs to someone else but could all those who think TB is getting ready to sell the club explain why? I looked at how much Leeds was sold for (lots of posters on this site telling me they are a big club) and it looked to me to be about £30M tops. So if TB is a good businessman why would he spend £150M on fixed assetts and finance a £14M a season loss to sell for £30M? I'm not saying I'm happy about our recent transfer activity (especially the inbound bit) but I can't see the logic of some of the arguments line level and gauge
  • Score: 6

8:13pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark5 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Very true Vegas. The level of venom and vitriol at worst, or the utter depression at best among fans is becoming all consuming. I still hold fast on my belief that an asute businessman like Bloom will not "throw" the season in such spectacular fashion, whether ftp is coming home to roost or not! We read about losing Clayton, as if it is the end of the world, is he really that good and should we care that much? Is it just possible that better quality signings are on the way as Bloom has indicated and if so should we just wait until the window closes before we have the heads of the three suits on spikes at Traitors Gate and burn our season tickets at the stake?!! Just MAYBE things will turn out as we are told and therefore more patience is the order of the day? What is for certain, is that we we hear NOTHING officially until the deals are done and that is the way proffessional business is conducted whether we like it or not!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Very true Vegas. The level of venom and vitriol at worst, or the utter depression at best among fans is becoming all consuming. I still hold fast on my belief that an asute businessman like Bloom will not "throw" the season in such spectacular fashion, whether ftp is coming home to roost or not! We read about losing Clayton, as if it is the end of the world, is he really that good and should we care that much? Is it just possible that better quality signings are on the way as Bloom has indicated and if so should we just wait until the window closes before we have the heads of the three suits on spikes at Traitors Gate and burn our season tickets at the stake?!! Just MAYBE things will turn out as we are told and therefore more patience is the order of the day? What is for certain, is that we we hear NOTHING officially until the deals are done and that is the way proffessional business is conducted whether we like it or not!! mark5
  • Score: 5

8:15pm Wed 13 Aug 14

oksouthstander says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today.

The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number.

Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in?

The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in.

Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will.

Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender?

Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books.

The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days.

Ok now I have vented.
IBIT Frustrating times but if 3 million FFP is the goal. Perhaps new money will be available when achieved. On the field 1 goal against and 2 for in 2 games. Improving defensively as players get to know each other,just need to tidy up our midfield in support of CMS and more goals will come.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There is an overiding financial plan at work, not sure what it is but it's there, and it's not a plan that is all about today. The idea that it might be, clear our losses, get them down to the permitted 3 million and then invest is putting together a quality sqaud. As possible as that might sound, it doesn't hold up unless new money comes in. Get to 3 million in losses, and then spend 10 or 12 million, would we not then be at 7 or 9 million losses again? Without new money we would be running outside of the FFP magic 3 million number. Most of you are talking of the money that has come in from sales, from what I have read ove the last few days, none of you have mentioned the money gained by selling the naming rights to our training ground, is that money part of a longer term financial plan? We also now have a new shirt deal, more money coming in? The fact that we are not spending on new players as quickly as we would all like is frustrating at best, and down right stupid at worst, but do any of us really think that players will not be coming? If Bloom doesn't have a few rabbits up his sleeve then yeah, it's all a con job, but is Bloom a con artist, is that what you really think. Does a man invest over 150 million of his own money just to watch it all go down the drain, and that is what could happen if we were to even just flirt with relegation. The bills have to be paid no matter what division you are in. Bloom preparing to sell the club, crazy talk, but maybe he could do with bringing in a partner, sell off 40% maybe even 49%, but as attractive as that might sound, I doubt he will. Wolves want a six figure sum for Ward, there are a lot of totals between 100K and 900K, but my guess is that the number is 150K. If Ward was to get a three year deal withbthe extra 3K a week, that would add up to 600K above the 1.5 million in regular wages, is Ward a 600K defender? Buckley goes for 2.5million, sounds good to me, and it wasn't that long ago when so many on this forum were saying that we should have sold him when we had the chance last year, a sick note off the books. The venting isn't about who we have sold, it's all about not bringing players in, and that issue requires a club statement, on that I would agree with all of you calling for one. If there are 4 or 5 targets that we are negotiating for then tell us, no names, just that talks are well advanced and that developments should occur within, X days. Ok now I have vented.[/p][/quote]IBIT Frustrating times but if 3 million FFP is the goal. Perhaps new money will be available when achieved. On the field 1 goal against and 2 for in 2 games. Improving defensively as players get to know each other,just need to tidy up our midfield in support of CMS and more goals will come. oksouthstander
  • Score: 2

8:20pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark5 says...

............and back on thread, this is good business for us, Buckley has long since lost his mojo and that hamstring is liable to go anytime!! 2.5 m in those circumstances is taking sweets from a child!! UTA
............and back on thread, this is good business for us, Buckley has long since lost his mojo and that hamstring is liable to go anytime!! 2.5 m in those circumstances is taking sweets from a child!! UTA mark5
  • Score: 10

8:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

pte wrote:
There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down.

Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality

Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks
Pte we clearly are in agreement on this.
I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions.
The squad was more or less the same both years.
For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi).
It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt.
The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring.
Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak
Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base .
Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest.
The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million.
All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running.
If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad.
So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement.
Onwards and Upwards with SH.
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down. Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks[/p][/quote]Pte we clearly are in agreement on this. I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions. The squad was more or less the same both years. For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi). It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt. The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring. Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base . Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest. The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million. All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running. If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad. So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement. Onwards and Upwards with SH. ballantrrae
  • Score: 9

8:36pm Wed 13 Aug 14

fan since 61 says...

Lots of bemoaning the loss of our best players why ? they were not good enough for promotion and it could be TB & co are trying to put together a stronger squad that will achieve that aim. call it rose tinted if you like but TB loves this club and will continue to build until we are in the PL. Now that may or not involve a partnership who knows, if thats the case so be it, but never think he will give up it would be foolish to think otherwise.
Lots of bemoaning the loss of our best players why ? they were not good enough for promotion and it could be TB & co are trying to put together a stronger squad that will achieve that aim. call it rose tinted if you like but TB loves this club and will continue to build until we are in the PL. Now that may or not involve a partnership who knows, if thats the case so be it, but never think he will give up it would be foolish to think otherwise. fan since 61
  • Score: 7

8:39pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Sweetmanattheamex says...

Guys, my son and I are season ticket holders and sit in the north stand. We have to do a 160 mile round trip as we live in Buckinghamshire. I must admit I'm very frustrated with the lack of signings and find myself coming on here constantly for any news (but I know there won't be). But I would never consider cancelling our season tickets, as watching the Albion is in our blood. I came away Saturday really disappointed with the performance but realising that we were 3/4 quality players short. Anyway, my point is, we have to trust TB and take him for his word about the quality that will come in before the transfer window closes. UTA
Guys, my son and I are season ticket holders and sit in the north stand. We have to do a 160 mile round trip as we live in Buckinghamshire. I must admit I'm very frustrated with the lack of signings and find myself coming on here constantly for any news (but I know there won't be). But I would never consider cancelling our season tickets, as watching the Albion is in our blood. I came away Saturday really disappointed with the performance but realising that we were 3/4 quality players short. Anyway, my point is, we have to trust TB and take him for his word about the quality that will come in before the transfer window closes. UTA Sweetmanattheamex
  • Score: 9

8:51pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Gordon of Goring says...

Wish I had time to read all the posts but the strength of feeling is clear from the number of postings. Rarely seen so many when logging in after work. Pretty fed up too... Continue like this and Crawley will become the top club in Sussex. No disrespect as love all things Sussex. We might not care about the branding but I wonder what American Express and our new sponsors Nike think about being associated with a failing brand and officials who talk like politicians i.e. say nothing. The club is it fans and one thing I know about BHA fans will get us through whatever is going on behind the scenes. Keep the faith.
Wish I had time to read all the posts but the strength of feeling is clear from the number of postings. Rarely seen so many when logging in after work. Pretty fed up too... Continue like this and Crawley will become the top club in Sussex. No disrespect as love all things Sussex. We might not care about the branding but I wonder what American Express and our new sponsors Nike think about being associated with a failing brand and officials who talk like politicians i.e. say nothing. The club is it fans and one thing I know about BHA fans will get us through whatever is going on behind the scenes. Keep the faith. Gordon of Goring
  • Score: 0

9:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

London Dave says...

ballantrrae wrote:
pte wrote:
There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down.

Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality

Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks
Pte we clearly are in agreement on this.
I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions.
The squad was more or less the same both years.
For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi).
It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt.
The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring.
Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak
Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base .
Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest.
The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million.
All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running.
If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad.
So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement.
Onwards and Upwards with SH.
Interesting post ballantrrae. I can see the logic in a lot of your post.

A concern though is how the type of player we are looking for (i.e. better quality) now views the Albion.

Two managers left in quick succession having apparently felt they had taken the club as far as they could. And a number of the better players have also left: Bridcutt, Ulloa, Upson, Barnes etc.

Are we running the serious risk that better players looking to advance to the Premiership in the short term will now feel that Brighton don't match these ambitions, and so go elsewhere? So far, the evidence doesn't look good, but as many on this site have already said there are still a few weeks to go. But if I was a betting man.....
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down. Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks[/p][/quote]Pte we clearly are in agreement on this. I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions. The squad was more or less the same both years. For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi). It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt. The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring. Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base . Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest. The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million. All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running. If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad. So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement. Onwards and Upwards with SH.[/p][/quote]Interesting post ballantrrae. I can see the logic in a lot of your post. A concern though is how the type of player we are looking for (i.e. better quality) now views the Albion. Two managers left in quick succession having apparently felt they had taken the club as far as they could. And a number of the better players have also left: Bridcutt, Ulloa, Upson, Barnes etc. Are we running the serious risk that better players looking to advance to the Premiership in the short term will now feel that Brighton don't match these ambitions, and so go elsewhere? So far, the evidence doesn't look good, but as many on this site have already said there are still a few weeks to go. But if I was a betting man..... London Dave
  • Score: 4

9:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

A fit and motivated Buckley is brilliant as a proper right winger. If you play him any other way he isn’t brilliant at all. That makes him a bit of a one trick pony (to coin a popular Alan Sugar phrase). Never did understand this “wingers playing more central”. If they play more central they are not wingers in my book. Anyway if that is the way we are going to play, he might as well go. Of course on the proviso we reinvested the profit wisely, sooner rather than later. Still Time (Just)
A fit and motivated Buckley is brilliant as a proper right winger. If you play him any other way he isn’t brilliant at all. That makes him a bit of a one trick pony (to coin a popular Alan Sugar phrase). Never did understand this “wingers playing more central”. If they play more central they are not wingers in my book. Anyway if that is the way we are going to play, he might as well go. Of course on the proviso we reinvested the profit wisely, sooner rather than later. Still Time (Just) championshipgull
  • Score: 5

9:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

championshipgull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
On holiday, but waiting for the inevitable binfestery to subside.

Notable that the known trolls and wums are getting thumbs up. So many new ones (same few?) it's hard to keep up.
One of the most bizarre threads I have ever seen.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]On holiday, but waiting for the inevitable binfestery to subside. Notable that the known trolls and wums are getting thumbs up. So many new ones (same few?) it's hard to keep up.[/p][/quote]One of the most bizarre threads I have ever seen. championshipgull
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mancgulled says...

........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio......
surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....
........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio...... surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB .... Mancgulled
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark5 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
pte wrote:
There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down.

Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality

Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks
Pte we clearly are in agreement on this.
I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions.
The squad was more or less the same both years.
For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi).
It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt.
The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring.
Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak
Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base .
Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest.
The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million.
All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running.
If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad.
So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement.
Onwards and Upwards with SH.
For me, this is the best post in a while and one which I agree entirely with. Reasoned, balanced and insightful and a breath of fresh air from much of the venom populating this forum! There has, in my opinion, to be a "bigger picture" scenario to what is going on at the moment. As I have said several times already (apologies for dull repetition) It would be ridiculous to assume that TB is just sailing "his" club down the river to a land of mediocrity in the same way that it would be to see Sami as some helpless, hand wringing powerless servant, with no say in what is happening and damaging his own reputation in the process!! After two failed play off attempts, this is without doubt a season of re-building and with that re-build will come some players with enough about them to assist the process!
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down. Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks[/p][/quote]Pte we clearly are in agreement on this. I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions. The squad was more or less the same both years. For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi). It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt. The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring. Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base . Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest. The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million. All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running. If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad. So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement. Onwards and Upwards with SH.[/p][/quote]For me, this is the best post in a while and one which I agree entirely with. Reasoned, balanced and insightful and a breath of fresh air from much of the venom populating this forum! There has, in my opinion, to be a "bigger picture" scenario to what is going on at the moment. As I have said several times already (apologies for dull repetition) It would be ridiculous to assume that TB is just sailing "his" club down the river to a land of mediocrity in the same way that it would be to see Sami as some helpless, hand wringing powerless servant, with no say in what is happening and damaging his own reputation in the process!! After two failed play off attempts, this is without doubt a season of re-building and with that re-build will come some players with enough about them to assist the process! mark5
  • Score: 4

9:30pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Mancgulled wrote:
........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio......
surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....
Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players?
[quote][p][bold]Mancgulled[/bold] wrote: ........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio...... surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....[/p][/quote]Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players? mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

9:35pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Towner83 says...

Surely TB must look at the way we conducted our transfers ( or not as the case may be ) & be disturbed at how other championship teams get their deals over the line with ease. It's becoming a bit of a joke but I'm not amused
Surely TB must look at the way we conducted our transfers ( or not as the case may be ) & be disturbed at how other championship teams get their deals over the line with ease. It's becoming a bit of a joke but I'm not amused Towner83
  • Score: 2

9:47pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Mancgulled says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Mancgulled wrote:
........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio......
surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....
Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players?
Because he has nowhere else to go - Leeds have apparently just dismissed him out of hand as a returning player - he is suffering from not having played for over a year in which case managers of other teams inevitably form an opinion that the players own manager obviously has some misgivings about him and their faith in paying out a couple of million quid for an out of form player is broken. He is quality and nobody is apparently interested - if we are taking chances with O'Grady/McCourt then take a chance with him -- granted though - not for 2.5m - or offer him a trial at least.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mancgulled[/bold] wrote: ........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio...... surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....[/p][/quote]Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players?[/p][/quote]Because he has nowhere else to go - Leeds have apparently just dismissed him out of hand as a returning player - he is suffering from not having played for over a year in which case managers of other teams inevitably form an opinion that the players own manager obviously has some misgivings about him and their faith in paying out a couple of million quid for an out of form player is broken. He is quality and nobody is apparently interested - if we are taking chances with O'Grady/McCourt then take a chance with him -- granted though - not for 2.5m - or offer him a trial at least. Mancgulled
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

How stupid would it be to invest crazy sums to build something, only to allow it all to fall away due to a lack of further care, wouldn't that be plain dumb.
Build an office block but only employ enough staff to get half the work done, crazy. Invest in a shop, but leave half the shelves empty, crazy. Open a gas station, but turn the pumps off at noon, crazy.

Anyone really and truly think Bloom is stupid or crazy?

Players will come, and they will be the right ones, or perhaps he will get the wrong ones and be stupid as well as crazy, really!
How stupid would it be to invest crazy sums to build something, only to allow it all to fall away due to a lack of further care, wouldn't that be plain dumb. Build an office block but only employ enough staff to get half the work done, crazy. Invest in a shop, but leave half the shelves empty, crazy. Open a gas station, but turn the pumps off at noon, crazy. Anyone really and truly think Bloom is stupid or crazy? Players will come, and they will be the right ones, or perhaps he will get the wrong ones and be stupid as well as crazy, really! VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)
Ha ha , how superiority eludes you,
I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass,
You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again.
Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?
Ah, I didn't realise the transfer window had closed and our squad is now set! Apologies, I thought there were still a couple of weeks to go.

And don't be so obtuse to think that all the 'fans' on here claiming to be cancelling their season tickets have ever even been to the Amex.

Seeing as you keep harking back to your earlier utterances, remind us of how much you thought we should sell Buckley for... £750k wasn't it?

Ha ha lol etc.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha , how superiority eludes you, I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass, You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again. Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?[/p][/quote]Ah, I didn't realise the transfer window had closed and our squad is now set! Apologies, I thought there were still a couple of weeks to go. And don't be so obtuse to think that all the 'fans' on here claiming to be cancelling their season tickets have ever even been to the Amex. Seeing as you keep harking back to your earlier utterances, remind us of how much you thought we should sell Buckley for... £750k wasn't it? Ha ha lol etc. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 2

10:06pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Mancgulled wrote:
........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio......
surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....
Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players?
I thought you said players only cared about money? In which case he wouldn't care about the team.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mancgulled[/bold] wrote: ........ the Amex is the place to go ..... Becchio ....... Becchio ........ Becchio...... surely we can now! .. or failing that Jordan Rhodes would be good! I'll be happy with just one quality signing at the moment, just one person who has that innate ability to alter a game all by himself. Like others I realise that Mr Bloom without a doubt bleeds blue& white - there has to be a twist in the tale yet. Again - if the 2.5 for Buckley is Barbers work - he must get a non-player of the off-season type of award because that is a fee that I would not have thought he was ever going to command ..... Buckley for Becchio -- come on TB ....[/p][/quote]Why would he join a club which has sold all it's best players?[/p][/quote]I thought you said players only cared about money? In which case he wouldn't care about the team. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

10:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Gazza by the sea says...

Blah blah blah......

So - the calm, rational view of life;

Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK.
O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes.
Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson.
90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover.
McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi.
Buckley is a sick note.
We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m.
Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens.

So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?!

The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st.

We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them.

Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.
Blah blah blah...... So - the calm, rational view of life; Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK. O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes. Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson. 90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover. McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi. Buckley is a sick note. We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m. Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens. So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?! The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st. We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them. Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now. Gazza by the sea
  • Score: 4

10:09pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Conelli98 says...

Vaz Te would be nice! Ward signing tomorrow
Vaz Te would be nice! Ward signing tomorrow Conelli98
  • Score: 2

10:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

London Dave wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
pte wrote:
There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down.

Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality

Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks
Pte we clearly are in agreement on this.
I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions.
The squad was more or less the same both years.
For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi).
It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt.
The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring.
Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak
Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base .
Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest.
The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million.
All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running.
If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad.
So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement.
Onwards and Upwards with SH.
Interesting post ballantrrae. I can see the logic in a lot of your post.

A concern though is how the type of player we are looking for (i.e. better quality) now views the Albion.

Two managers left in quick succession having apparently felt they had taken the club as far as they could. And a number of the better players have also left: Bridcutt, Ulloa, Upson, Barnes etc.

Are we running the serious risk that better players looking to advance to the Premiership in the short term will now feel that Brighton don't match these ambitions, and so go elsewhere? So far, the evidence doesn't look good, but as many on this site have already said there are still a few weeks to go. But if I was a betting man.....
Yes London Dave such a strategy is a high risk one but as you imply we all know how TB first started creating his wealth.
There is an old expression ( sadly 'anonymous ') "he who risketh nothing, maketh nothing". There is a rather more famous one expressing a similar sentiment which is particularly associated with one organisation well known for some spectacular success "Who dares wins". Perhaps TB is following their example and trusting his own instincts.
The main risk of course for TB is that he has to rely on others to execute his plan.
If this is his strategy then fingers crossed that it succeeds.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]London Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: There might be lots of bargains in the next 2 weeks. Because of FFP, clubs that were holding out for top money will be forced to offload to get the wages down. Stockdale purchase shows good intent to get quality Lets reserve judgement for 2 weeks[/p][/quote]Pte we clearly are in agreement on this. I am just beginning to wonder whether the club when sitting down both at the end of last season and again with SH once he had been appointed thoroughly examined the squad as a whole. I just wonder if when doing so they came to the conclusion that we simply had not had a strong enough squad in the last 2 seasons to get promoted and that therefore it needed a major overhaul. Yes we got to the play-offs but were knocked out at the semi final stage on both occasions. The squad was more or less the same both years. For Bridge we had Ward, for Bridcutt there was Andrews and Inca and instead of Barnes in a sense we had Lingard but earlier in the season Conway (in reality cover for the injured Orlandi). It was fairly obvious when one looks at it that if the same players had been unsuccessful twice then being that much older they were less likely to succeed on a third attempt. The problem they would have been faced with was how to fund any major team restructuring. Stage one off load the players you don't think will achieve the promotion objective who are either injury prone eg Orlandi or whose salary is towards the top of the club's wage structure like Kuszczak Having already raised about £4 million net from the sales of Bridcutt, Barnes and El-Abd but allowing for the fee for Stephens a 'transfer war chest' had a reasonable base . Stage two might be to build that fund up by selling a couple of sought after players witness Ulloa and (probably) Buckley. These two sales have added another £10.5 million to the war chest. The key stage is of course the third ie getting quality players in to replace those who have left. I imagine that Upson moving to Leicester was a blow but Hughes is a straight replacement So far we have made one top purchase in Stockdale and brought in 2 squad players to add a bit of depth ie COG and Toko. In doing so we have reduced the war chest by £1.5 million. All that's needed now is to acquire 6 players, 5 of whom need to be quality first choice ones. TB and the club have 19 days in which to pull this strategy off if indeed it is BHA's strategy. If it is it is a high risk but brave one but also one potentially borne out of a hard yet realistic appraisal of what we achieved in reaching the play-offs two seasons running. If this scenario is right let's hope the Albion recruit the calibre of players both wanted and needed. I can well understand SH buying into such a plan even if it puts more pressure on him to weld the players into a winning team without having had the benefit of a full pre-season with a full squad. So as you so aptly posted Pte let's give the club till the end of the Window before passing judgement. Onwards and Upwards with SH.[/p][/quote]Interesting post ballantrrae. I can see the logic in a lot of your post. A concern though is how the type of player we are looking for (i.e. better quality) now views the Albion. Two managers left in quick succession having apparently felt they had taken the club as far as they could. And a number of the better players have also left: Bridcutt, Ulloa, Upson, Barnes etc. Are we running the serious risk that better players looking to advance to the Premiership in the short term will now feel that Brighton don't match these ambitions, and so go elsewhere? So far, the evidence doesn't look good, but as many on this site have already said there are still a few weeks to go. But if I was a betting man.....[/p][/quote]Yes London Dave such a strategy is a high risk one but as you imply we all know how TB first started creating his wealth. There is an old expression ( sadly 'anonymous ') "he who risketh nothing, maketh nothing". There is a rather more famous one expressing a similar sentiment which is particularly associated with one organisation well known for some spectacular success "Who dares wins". Perhaps TB is following their example and trusting his own instincts. The main risk of course for TB is that he has to rely on others to execute his plan. If this is his strategy then fingers crossed that it succeeds. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 4

10:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

mark by the sea says...

Gazza by the sea wrote:
Blah blah blah......

So - the calm, rational view of life;

Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK.
O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes.
Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson.
90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover.
McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi.
Buckley is a sick note.
We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m.
Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens.

So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?!

The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st.

We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them.

Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.
So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate!
As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?
[quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Blah blah blah...... So - the calm, rational view of life; Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK. O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes. Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson. 90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover. McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi. Buckley is a sick note. We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m. Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens. So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?! The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st. We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them. Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.[/p][/quote]So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate! As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance? mark by the sea
  • Score: 1

10:21pm Wed 13 Aug 14

daughter-of-manag says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
How stupid would it be to invest crazy sums to build something, only to allow it all to fall away due to a lack of further care, wouldn't that be plain dumb.
Build an office block but only employ enough staff to get half the work done, crazy. Invest in a shop, but leave half the shelves empty, crazy. Open a gas station, but turn the pumps off at noon, crazy.

Anyone really and truly think Bloom is stupid or crazy?

Players will come, and they will be the right ones, or perhaps he will get the wrong ones and be stupid as well as crazy, really!
Absolutely spot on Vagus.

Some of tbe posts on this site are beyond disgraceful - and shows a complete lack of wisdom and maturity to slag off the side every time a result or a signing doesn't go their way!

Buckley sale is good business - thanks for the memories Will - but you are a tad injury prone so ta ta and all the best.

Shame about "the trio" that we're signed but then not signed. But we must move on and give SH time to rebuild the side without the Argus firing squad itching to pull the trigger.

Cone on you Seagulls!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: How stupid would it be to invest crazy sums to build something, only to allow it all to fall away due to a lack of further care, wouldn't that be plain dumb. Build an office block but only employ enough staff to get half the work done, crazy. Invest in a shop, but leave half the shelves empty, crazy. Open a gas station, but turn the pumps off at noon, crazy. Anyone really and truly think Bloom is stupid or crazy? Players will come, and they will be the right ones, or perhaps he will get the wrong ones and be stupid as well as crazy, really![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on Vagus. Some of tbe posts on this site are beyond disgraceful - and shows a complete lack of wisdom and maturity to slag off the side every time a result or a signing doesn't go their way! Buckley sale is good business - thanks for the memories Will - but you are a tad injury prone so ta ta and all the best. Shame about "the trio" that we're signed but then not signed. But we must move on and give SH time to rebuild the side without the Argus firing squad itching to pull the trigger. Cone on you Seagulls! daughter-of-manag
  • Score: -3

10:22pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bbb1969 says...

Rougvie Legend wrote:
I buy two season tickets one of which is for my son who incedently was bordering on being a leeds fan until he started going to the Amex, I just spoke to him told him about Buckley and said things have got bad do you still want go, he looked at me in horror and said of coarse we are Brighton and I love it, kinda cheered me up and that's why most of us will continue to go, we are Brighton til we die
Started supporting and going to see the Albion 28 years ago. I remember taking my son to Withdean quite a few years later and he fell asleep in the second half. Well he's quite a lot older now and I asked him if he wanted to see the cup game with me; he said he would rather go to bed early; now this is coming from a kid who watched Brighton as much as he could over the last 2 seasons and he is Brighton through and through but he is one of the next generation of fans and if he cant be bothered to see our team then what hope do we have if others feel the same way. The club needs sorting out and people do want to be entertained.
[quote][p][bold]Rougvie Legend[/bold] wrote: I buy two season tickets one of which is for my son who incedently was bordering on being a leeds fan until he started going to the Amex, I just spoke to him told him about Buckley and said things have got bad do you still want go, he looked at me in horror and said of coarse we are Brighton and I love it, kinda cheered me up and that's why most of us will continue to go, we are Brighton til we die[/p][/quote]Started supporting and going to see the Albion 28 years ago. I remember taking my son to Withdean quite a few years later and he fell asleep in the second half. Well he's quite a lot older now and I asked him if he wanted to see the cup game with me; he said he would rather go to bed early; now this is coming from a kid who watched Brighton as much as he could over the last 2 seasons and he is Brighton through and through but he is one of the next generation of fans and if he cant be bothered to see our team then what hope do we have if others feel the same way. The club needs sorting out and people do want to be entertained. bbb1969
  • Score: -1

10:29pm Wed 13 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Aye Aye wrote:
As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench.

I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club.

Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong.
What on earth are you on about - a 'light at the end of the tunnel'?!!!
Where exactly is this f****** 'light' because you must be the only one who can see it?! We have lost 10 quality players with just two in who are likely to be regular first teamers - that is not 'cracking a few eggs' that's ringing the chickens neck and flushing it down the khazi!! Light at the end of the tunnel my @rse!!
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench. I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club. Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about - a 'light at the end of the tunnel'?!!! Where exactly is this f****** 'light' because you must be the only one who can see it?! We have lost 10 quality players with just two in who are likely to be regular first teamers - that is not 'cracking a few eggs' that's ringing the chickens neck and flushing it down the khazi!! Light at the end of the tunnel my @rse!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

10:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

stonegold wrote:
Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien.
He'd eat the pies first!!😀
[quote][p][bold]stonegold[/bold] wrote: Oh well, at least there's nobody left worth selling - unless somebody offers a couple of pies and a bag of crisps for Agustien.[/p][/quote]He'd eat the pies first!!😀 brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Wed 13 Aug 14

AlfieT says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Gazza by the sea wrote:
Blah blah blah......

So - the calm, rational view of life;

Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK.
O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes.
Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson.
90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover.
McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi.
Buckley is a sick note.
We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m.
Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens.

So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?!

The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st.

We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them.

Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.
So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate!
As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?
Sky sports reporting Ward deal is close.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Blah blah blah...... So - the calm, rational view of life; Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK. O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes. Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson. 90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover. McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi. Buckley is a sick note. We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m. Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens. So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?! The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st. We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them. Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.[/p][/quote]So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate! As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?[/p][/quote]Sky sports reporting Ward deal is close. AlfieT
  • Score: 4

10:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

If a few of the prem clubs have players that they would like to see not only go out on loan, but also get some good playing time, then Brighton is the place to send them.
Ibe and Lingard, two possible loanees, (Ibe looked great over here, maybe too good,) would almost certainly get a lot of playing time. Spurs are showing the door to a whole bunch of players, United and Liverpool still have talent to find a home for, possibly Man City and Chelsea too. My hope is that we can, and will, buy a couple of key players, but loanees could well be the preferred option for some of our needs.

Bloom went big when he sais that we would like the squad when the window closes, but he didn't say which window, sales or loans.
If a few of the prem clubs have players that they would like to see not only go out on loan, but also get some good playing time, then Brighton is the place to send them. Ibe and Lingard, two possible loanees, (Ibe looked great over here, maybe too good,) would almost certainly get a lot of playing time. Spurs are showing the door to a whole bunch of players, United and Liverpool still have talent to find a home for, possibly Man City and Chelsea too. My hope is that we can, and will, buy a couple of key players, but loanees could well be the preferred option for some of our needs. Bloom went big when he sais that we would like the squad when the window closes, but he didn't say which window, sales or loans. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Claude Back says...

AlanDuffy wrote:
Alan Duffy wrote:
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
Seems there's 2 Alan Duffys on here......time to change my name if the nonsense posted above is attributed to me. Alan Duffy ( as was ).
You could be schizophrenic, Alan or Alan.
[quote][p][bold]AlanDuffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.[/p][/quote]Seems there's 2 Alan Duffys on here......time to change my name if the nonsense posted above is attributed to me. Alan Duffy ( as was ).[/p][/quote]You could be schizophrenic, Alan or Alan. Claude Back
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Wed 13 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Aye Aye wrote:
As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench.

I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club.

Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong.
What on earth are you on about - a 'light at the end of the tunnel'?!!!
Where exactly is this f****** 'light' because you must be the only one who can see it?! We have lost 10 quality players with just two in who are likely to be regular first teamers - that is not 'cracking a few eggs' that's ringing the chickens neck and flushing it down the khazi!! Light at the end of the tunnel my @rse!!
.....meant THREE who are likely to be first teamers. ..!!
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: As much as I was a Buckley admirer, he had become increasingly marginalised and, therefore, £2.5/£3m represents better value than his place on our bench. I truly believe that it is genuine light at the end of the tunnel and not a train headed our way. You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs and a clear-out was necessary. The next news may prove decisive in the fortunes of our great club. Until the window closes, I will remain as I am, an enthusiastic season ticket holder prepared to keep the faith in a group of people who have an awful lot to lose if they get this wrong.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about - a 'light at the end of the tunnel'?!!! Where exactly is this f****** 'light' because you must be the only one who can see it?! We have lost 10 quality players with just two in who are likely to be regular first teamers - that is not 'cracking a few eggs' that's ringing the chickens neck and flushing it down the khazi!! Light at the end of the tunnel my @rse!![/p][/quote].....meant THREE who are likely to be first teamers. ..!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -5

10:57pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

Alan Duffy wrote:
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season.
If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him..
Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet.
All theory on my part of of course.
From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired.
Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players.
I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future.
[quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.[/p][/quote]I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season. If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him.. Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet. All theory on my part of of course. From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired. Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players. I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future. Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 6

11:01pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

I see Spurs have signed the American youngster Yedlin, bummer is that he will see out the MLS season, I was hoping we might have got a loan deal for the lad. Price not given but I know the MLS placed a 5 million dollar valuation on him, probably went for about 4 million dollars.
I see Spurs have signed the American youngster Yedlin, bummer is that he will see out the MLS season, I was hoping we might have got a loan deal for the lad. Price not given but I know the MLS placed a 5 million dollar valuation on him, probably went for about 4 million dollars. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

11:08pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Piglet1 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Gazza by the sea wrote:
Blah blah blah......

So - the calm, rational view of life;

Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK.
O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes.
Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson.
90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover.
McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi.
Buckley is a sick note.
We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m.
Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens.

So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?!

The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st.

We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them.

Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.
So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate!
As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?
Nice to see you are as optimistic as ever. Lets be honest whatever happens will not please you. I repeat, lets wait and see at the end of the Month. In the meantime it is all wasted speculation over situations we have no special insight into and no control over. Trust is needed and it appears you do not trust the man who has built the Amex and the training ground with our club. I do and until I am proved wrong I will remain supportive, that is what supporters do.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Blah blah blah...... So - the calm, rational view of life; Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK. O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes. Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson. 90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover. McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi. Buckley is a sick note. We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m. Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens. So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?! The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st. We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them. Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.[/p][/quote]So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate! As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?[/p][/quote]Nice to see you are as optimistic as ever. Lets be honest whatever happens will not please you. I repeat, lets wait and see at the end of the Month. In the meantime it is all wasted speculation over situations we have no special insight into and no control over. Trust is needed and it appears you do not trust the man who has built the Amex and the training ground with our club. I do and until I am proved wrong I will remain supportive, that is what supporters do. Piglet1
  • Score: 1

11:10pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Eastbourne Blue says...

Would you sell?
Gained control of a club built a fantastic stadium, best supported club in the Championship. Then last peice of the jigsaw was to build a state of the art training ground.
Along comes Olly Garc from the east and offers you £200m.......of course you would!
Would you sell? Gained control of a club built a fantastic stadium, best supported club in the Championship. Then last peice of the jigsaw was to build a state of the art training ground. Along comes Olly Garc from the east and offers you £200m.......of course you would! Eastbourne Blue
  • Score: 0

11:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

VegasSeagull says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
Alan Duffy wrote:
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season.
If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him..
Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet.
All theory on my part of of course.
From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired.
Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players.
I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future.
Hi Staffs.
The Buckley sale, IMHO, is no different than the Bridcutt or Ulloa sales, prem clubs wanted them and prem clubs get what they want because the players want prem football.

When was the last time a Champ Div club was able to not only hold off the advances from a prem club, but also convince their player that he should stay put and not take his chance of stepping up to the top level with all that that brings.

As I said in others posts, it's not who goes that counts, it's who comes in, and right now we are waiting to see just who comes in.
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.[/p][/quote]I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season. If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him.. Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet. All theory on my part of of course. From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired. Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players. I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future.[/p][/quote]Hi Staffs. The Buckley sale, IMHO, is no different than the Bridcutt or Ulloa sales, prem clubs wanted them and prem clubs get what they want because the players want prem football. When was the last time a Champ Div club was able to not only hold off the advances from a prem club, but also convince their player that he should stay put and not take his chance of stepping up to the top level with all that that brings. As I said in others posts, it's not who goes that counts, it's who comes in, and right now we are waiting to see just who comes in. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 2

11:23pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OldGull says...

sussexram40 wrote:
TheDuke1 wrote:
Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season.

• 29 Kuszczak
• 14 Calderon
• 17 Ward
• 04 Andrews
• 03 Greer
• 20 Upson
• 18 Forster-Caskey
• 11 Orlandi
• 19 Ulloa
• 30 Buckley
• 35 Lingard

My point being???
Who would have thought that 8 of our starting line up in the last league game of last season would be gone in 2 or 3 months?

What's going on???

Kuszczak - GONE
Ward - GONE
Andrews - GONE
Upson - GONE
Orlandi - GONE
Ulloa - GONE
Buckley - GONE
Lingard - GONE
Kucczak replaced with Stockdale (good deal)
Ward returning (on skysports 22:26 tonight)
Andrews most on here didn't like (replaced by Toko)
Upson (replaced by Hughes) (OK deal)
Orlandi Never fit (Needs replacing)
Ulloa £8M good deal (Seriously needs replacing)
Buckley Never fit (needs replacing)
Lingard many on here did not rate him ( we will bring in some loanees)

In short, we need
A top drawer striker,
A quality winger (or wing back)
A creative midfielder

sign those 3 in the next 2 weeks and we will be competitive
I will continue to trust TB.
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote: Starting 11 against Forest final league game of the season. • 29 Kuszczak • 14 Calderon • 17 Ward • 04 Andrews • 03 Greer • 20 Upson • 18 Forster-Caskey • 11 Orlandi • 19 Ulloa • 30 Buckley • 35 Lingard My point being???[/p][/quote]Who would have thought that 8 of our starting line up in the last league game of last season would be gone in 2 or 3 months? What's going on??? Kuszczak - GONE Ward - GONE Andrews - GONE Upson - GONE Orlandi - GONE Ulloa - GONE Buckley - GONE Lingard - GONE[/p][/quote]Kucczak replaced with Stockdale (good deal) Ward returning (on skysports 22:26 tonight) Andrews most on here didn't like (replaced by Toko) Upson (replaced by Hughes) (OK deal) Orlandi Never fit (Needs replacing) Ulloa £8M good deal (Seriously needs replacing) Buckley Never fit (needs replacing) Lingard many on here did not rate him ( we will bring in some loanees) In short, we need A top drawer striker, A quality winger (or wing back) A creative midfielder sign those 3 in the next 2 weeks and we will be competitive I will continue to trust TB. OldGull
  • Score: 4

11:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Hugothepug says...

There are going to be a lot of people feeling rather silly in two weeks time. Can't you see, as a few have pointed out, that it ultimately hasn't worked in the past two years and that the squad is being overhauled ready for a full on assault on the championship - ok it might take more than a season but it's going to happen - trust in Bloom he's not stupid. Speak up once the window has closed!
There are going to be a lot of people feeling rather silly in two weeks time. Can't you see, as a few have pointed out, that it ultimately hasn't worked in the past two years and that the squad is being overhauled ready for a full on assault on the championship - ok it might take more than a season but it's going to happen - trust in Bloom he's not stupid. Speak up once the window has closed! Hugothepug
  • Score: -1

11:33pm Wed 13 Aug 14

OldGull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Gazza by the sea wrote:
Blah blah blah......

So - the calm, rational view of life;

Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK.
O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes.
Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson.
90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover.
McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi.
Buckley is a sick note.
We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m.
Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens.

So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?!

The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st.

We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them.

Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.
So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate!
As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?
Bridcutt wanted out, Ince has the potential
As for Hughes, read what the man said, "Based on his CV" he is an adequate replacement.

And yes we do need quality replacements for Ulloa , Buckley & Orlandi.
Until the window closes I will trust TB

Skysports say Ward is close to signing
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: Blah blah blah...... So - the calm, rational view of life; Stockdale appears to be a competent replacement for TK. O'Grady is at least as good as Barnes. Based on his CV Hughes is an adequate replacement for Upson. 90% of folk on here love Ince and he's playing the Bridcutt role - and we have Toko as cover. McCourt has the guile and cunning to replace Orlandi. Buckley is a sick note. We got £8m+ for Ulloa, a year after paying £2m. Clayton offers nothing significantly different to Crofts or Stephens. So - before you girls start hurling your toys (and season tickets) out of the pram, stamp your feet and demand to be treated with the 'respect your deserve' take a long deep breath and recognise that Tony is at least as dyed in the wool blue and white as anyone on here, and no more wants to watch dull pedestrian football than any of us. Why in gods name would he invest in everything that he has to play in league one?! The transfer window is not closed and he has promised we will be pleased with the squad once it has. Stop whining and wait until September 1st. We need a left back, a credible replacement for Ulloa and a midfielder with passion strength guile and cunning - as a minimum. Let's bleat and whine if, and only if, we don't get them. Right - that's my bleating and whining over for now.[/p][/quote]So ince is as good as bridcutt? Lol your clueless mate! As for Hughes replacing upson , based on 1 performance?[/p][/quote]Bridcutt wanted out, Ince has the potential As for Hughes, read what the man said, "Based on his CV" he is an adequate replacement. And yes we do need quality replacements for Ulloa , Buckley & Orlandi. Until the window closes I will trust TB Skysports say Ward is close to signing OldGull
  • Score: 1

11:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Chalkgull says...

Let's take stock on 1 sept and see what we have. Remember we are at minus £30M v 10 clubs, not easy. Ward signing, away to Swindon (wake up argus and report). Some of the reaction from supposedly die hard Albion fans is strange. If this as stated is a time of adversity then that's when we draw together. C'MON UTA!
Let's take stock on 1 sept and see what we have. Remember we are at minus £30M v 10 clubs, not easy. Ward signing, away to Swindon (wake up argus and report). Some of the reaction from supposedly die hard Albion fans is strange. If this as stated is a time of adversity then that's when we draw together. C'MON UTA! Chalkgull
  • Score: 3

12:07am Thu 14 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?
Hi Dave.
Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time.

I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.
Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)
Ha ha , how superiority eludes you,
I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass,
You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again.
Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?
I suppose Mark BTS that one or two players might want to join BHA having seen how playing for the Albion has helped players like Ulloa, Bridcutt, Barnes and Buckley (?) realise their ambition to playing in the PL and incidentally to both top up their Bank balance and improve their salary.
For a player like Upson he has won a chance to play once again in the PL at a time when his career is getting close to the end. Ward on the other hand (who still might return) playing for Brighton enabled him to win back his place in the Irish team.
I can see that with those examples in mind and with our superb stadium and training academy quite a number of potential players might want to come to the Amex. Now that we have the vacancies that becomes a real possibility. Just one or two reasons why targets might want to sign for us.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hello Vegas, Ex Pat and Jeff. Are you out there to try and balance thing up a bit?[/p][/quote]Hi Dave. Do you mean, 'balance it up a bit,' by entering into reasonable debate, if so, this forum, right now, is not interested in reasonable debate, it's venting time. I have spent the last 2 or 3 days just reading, no point, at this time, in doing anything else.[/p][/quote]Vegas, as ever you put it better than me :-)[/p][/quote]Ha ha , how superiority eludes you, I said season ticket sales would be hit, and now what people cancelling on mass, You defend FFP blindly because it makes sense, but reality is success is what fills seats , and that's the gulf, you watching it from some moody free view and the real fans paying again and again. Please tell us how allow ing our best players to leave will attract good players to come here?[/p][/quote]I suppose Mark BTS that one or two players might want to join BHA having seen how playing for the Albion has helped players like Ulloa, Bridcutt, Barnes and Buckley (?) realise their ambition to playing in the PL and incidentally to both top up their Bank balance and improve their salary. For a player like Upson he has won a chance to play once again in the PL at a time when his career is getting close to the end. Ward on the other hand (who still might return) playing for Brighton enabled him to win back his place in the Irish team. I can see that with those examples in mind and with our superb stadium and training academy quite a number of potential players might want to come to the Amex. Now that we have the vacancies that becomes a real possibility. Just one or two reasons why targets might want to sign for us. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 5

12:34am Thu 14 Aug 14

the taffster says...

Cliify0002 wrote:
We have been fed a lot of flannel I'm not paying money to watch a team of kids and past it players the next will be lua after that Sami will walk
Sami will be gone by the end of Aug....likely Huddersfield.
[quote][p][bold]Cliify0002[/bold] wrote: We have been fed a lot of flannel I'm not paying money to watch a team of kids and past it players the next will be lua after that Sami will walk[/p][/quote]Sami will be gone by the end of Aug....likely Huddersfield. the taffster
  • Score: -3

12:50am Thu 14 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Albion In Staffs wrote:
Alan Duffy wrote:
Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.
I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season.
If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him..
Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet.
All theory on my part of of course.
From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired.
Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players.
I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future.
Hi Staffs.
The Buckley sale, IMHO, is no different than the Bridcutt or Ulloa sales, prem clubs wanted them and prem clubs get what they want because the players want prem football.

When was the last time a Champ Div club was able to not only hold off the advances from a prem club, but also convince their player that he should stay put and not take his chance of stepping up to the top level with all that that brings.

As I said in others posts, it's not who goes that counts, it's who comes in, and right now we are waiting to see just who comes in.
Hold your breath.... I agree.
That was basically my point. I said in an earlier post there comes a time when it's right that players leave but the secret for clubs like ours is how we progress with replacements.
Right now, I'd be surprised if SH wasn't frustrated and I can easily see how he might be questioning the approach
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan Duffy[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot me on this one, but, I had it from quite a good source that Sami has given his notice in already, but was persuaded to take it back and also give it a couple of months, if this is so I can't really blame him, one thing is for sure his enthusiasm has seemed to have lessened.[/p][/quote]I have no idea (like most of us) if there's any truth in what you say, but frankly, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it's something I've wondered for a few weeks, given the run up to the season. If Sami IS the casting vote in transfer dealings as the club insist, I can't believe he'd sanction the departure of Buckley so soon after Ulloa for a mere £2.5m. If you remember, his quote before the Cheltenham game was: "he wasn't available for selection." so someone had told him.. Had SH been happy with it, he'd have probably done what most managers do and say he wasn't being risked, or was being saved for the league game at Birmingham. I think "wasn't available for selection" was as near as he could get to publicly voicing disquiet. All theory on my part of of course. From SH's point of view, he's so far seen Ulloa depart and no use of the money gained and now Buckley on his way too. His only two signings are players I simply do not believe would have been SH inspired. Slaughter me if you will, but sorry, I can see some harsh truth in the rumour AD has posted. It's all very well saying the transfer window is still open but we've all known replacements were needed since the end of last season, but so far no real quality has been added - just three squad players. I really wouldn't be surprised if we're thrown into more turmoil in the not too distant future.[/p][/quote]Hi Staffs. The Buckley sale, IMHO, is no different than the Bridcutt or Ulloa sales, prem clubs wanted them and prem clubs get what they want because the players want prem football. When was the last time a Champ Div club was able to not only hold off the advances from a prem club, but also convince their player that he should stay put and not take his chance of stepping up to the top level with all that that brings. As I said in others posts, it's not who goes that counts, it's who comes in, and right now we are waiting to see just who comes in.[/p][/quote]Hold your breath.... I agree. That was basically my point. I said in an earlier post there comes a time when it's right that players leave but the secret for clubs like ours is how we progress with replacements. Right now, I'd be surprised if SH wasn't frustrated and I can easily see how he might be questioning the approach Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 7

5:02am Thu 14 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

wrighty2908 wrote:
Seagulls26 wrote:
Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club.
On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees.
I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable.
Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!!
I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!!
I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA.
Where have you two been hiding, come on here more often boy's, great posts I couldn't agree more, your get used to the doom and gloom posters on here,
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]wrighty2908[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagulls26[/bold] wrote: Agree sad to see Will off on his travels,but if he could have stayed fit for a season the price would have been more I'm sure.Not a bad deal for the club. On another note,there's no way we have got a disposable £16 mil after these transfers not with what we paid/wages and agent fees. I think many people including those who sit around me at the Amex need to get a grip and realise where we've come from and we have to be sustainable. Oh I don't suppose many of them were at gillinham and the withdean!!!! I've got faith that the current team will be added too,but not in the millions that some people seem to be dreaming off!![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more I have a 210 mile round trip for home games and I have no intention of giving up my season ticket, if these so called fans were true fans they would support this club rain or shine. I remember alot of people not happy about Leo's signing all because he had sat on the bench for most of the season. Open your eyes look how far we have come and dont forget the millions that TB has paid into the club to service the debt, I am certain that we will see new faces to strengthen the squad as so many are tipping TB to sell the club it wouldn't be good business to be relagated if this is the case UTA.[/p][/quote]Where have you two been hiding, come on here more often boy's, great posts I couldn't agree more, your get used to the doom and gloom posters on here, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -1

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