Race hots up for Albion target Lenihan

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Albion have competition for Irish defender Brian Lenihan.

Cork City tonight confirmed via their website that they had accepted a second bid for their in-demand young right-back.

The Argus understands the Seagulls had already had a £150,000 bid for the 20-year-old accepted but they were likely to face competition for his signature from the Premier League.

Hull City are among the clubs interested in his services.

Lenihan was tonight pulled out of what was expected to be his farewell appearance for Cork, in an FAI Cup tie against Bohemians.

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10:55pm Fri 22 Aug 14

brightonup says...

Another disappointment?
Another disappointment? brightonup
  • Score: -2

11:01pm Fri 22 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Tough to compete with a PL club....especially if we're only offering 150,000 (although that seems to have been accepted). Could be shaping up as another 'almost signed' story that doesn't materialise. Still, not dead yet so if you really want him BB&B, go get him and UP the ante to the player if that's what it takes. (But I'd understand if the kid wants the glamour of the PL...not much we can do to compete with that, other than offering first team football, something he is unlikely to get at Hull.)
Tough to compete with a PL club....especially if we're only offering 150,000 (although that seems to have been accepted). Could be shaping up as another 'almost signed' story that doesn't materialise. Still, not dead yet so if you really want him BB&B, go get him and UP the ante to the player if that's what it takes. (But I'd understand if the kid wants the glamour of the PL...not much we can do to compete with that, other than offering first team football, something he is unlikely to get at Hull.) albionbloke
  • Score: 16

11:03pm Fri 22 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

I thought it was common knowledge that Hull was the other club interested in the lad, what he has got to decide is will he get any game time with Hull, where as if he came to us he would get a fair chance to play in our team, we've got plenty off young players in our squad who are regulars, I hope the lad makes the right decision for football reasons not just the lore off the premiership where he could easily disappear out the game before his career has even got started,
Up the Albion!!
I thought it was common knowledge that Hull was the other club interested in the lad, what he has got to decide is will he get any game time with Hull, where as if he came to us he would get a fair chance to play in our team, we've got plenty off young players in our squad who are regulars, I hope the lad makes the right decision for football reasons not just the lore off the premiership where he could easily disappear out the game before his career has even got started, Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 11

11:04pm Fri 22 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Upon re-reading the story again, I note that Cork accepted a SECOND bid, which does mean a bit of a bidding war. In that case BB&B....if you want him, make the right offer - you've got the money in the bank! And if the kid is such a 'hot prospect' as has been touted, then GO FOR IT!
Upon re-reading the story again, I note that Cork accepted a SECOND bid, which does mean a bit of a bidding war. In that case BB&B....if you want him, make the right offer - you've got the money in the bank! And if the kid is such a 'hot prospect' as has been touted, then GO FOR IT! albionbloke
  • Score: 13

11:06pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Albion In Staffs says...

If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight.
Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank.
Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...'
If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight. Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank. Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...' Albion In Staffs
  • Score: 15

11:10pm Fri 22 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).
Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done). albionbloke
  • Score: 15

11:12pm Fri 22 Aug 14

brightonup says...

albionbloke wrote:
Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).
agree
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).[/p][/quote]agree brightonup
  • Score: 7

11:15pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight.
Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank.
Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...'
Did find it strange that it was being reported we had agreed a fee with cork by eurosport for one and yet he was still due to play, you could be right Hull are now leading the race shame he looks a cracking prospect
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight. Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank. Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...'[/p][/quote]Did find it strange that it was being reported we had agreed a fee with cork by eurosport for one and yet he was still due to play, you could be right Hull are now leading the race shame he looks a cracking prospect Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 7

11:26pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Our bid was accepted as it was the opening bid for the auction, if the guy really has potential then go in and say to the club what will it cost to keep under wraps if he is worth it it's worth it! They are only using us as a way of drumming up business.
Our bid was accepted as it was the opening bid for the auction, if the guy really has potential then go in and say to the club what will it cost to keep under wraps if he is worth it it's worth it! They are only using us as a way of drumming up business. Bucket feet Duffy
  • Score: 4

11:31pm Fri 22 Aug 14

wardfan says...

Brighton is his preferred choice.
Brighton is his preferred choice. wardfan
  • Score: -1

11:35pm Fri 22 Aug 14

dar1992 says...

here we go again! good luck in the pl!
here we go again! good luck in the pl! dar1992
  • Score: 7

11:39pm Fri 22 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Hope this doesn't end up in the Van Dyke, Clayton, Baldock, Ward bin....it's getting rather full!
Hope this doesn't end up in the Van Dyke, Clayton, Baldock, Ward bin....it's getting rather full! albionbloke
  • Score: 11

11:47pm Fri 22 Aug 14

SMF20 says...

There might be a compromise to be struck for this lad.

He will of course want the salary and prestige that a premiership will bring but equally he is unlikely to get much game time.... With this in mind, perhaps Sami could get on the phone to Bruce and ask for a season loan if they win the battle for his signature.
There might be a compromise to be struck for this lad. He will of course want the salary and prestige that a premiership will bring but equally he is unlikely to get much game time.... With this in mind, perhaps Sami could get on the phone to Bruce and ask for a season loan if they win the battle for his signature. SMF20
  • Score: -5

11:48pm Fri 22 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

albionbloke wrote:
Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).
I don't know for certain whether or not we are pursuing Lenihan but if we are why did we agree to have a gap between having our bid accepted and finalising the deal and getting him signed ?
Once SH has said he wanted to add him to the squad and TB has sanctioned the purchase financially I assume it is down to DB and his team to get the deal over the line. Given the reported interest in Lenihan little was going to be gained by delaying the signing process.
If we aren't successful in recruiting him will people be held to account or will they if he joins a PL club simply hide behind the mantra of 'Oh well we weren't able to compete against a PL side'.
What we can offer is the greater chance of getting some game time either off the bench or as a starter this season, a less likely prospect with a PL team.
I just hope DB & Co, if we are interested in this player, aren't slipping up on successfully finalising his acquisition.
UTA.
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).[/p][/quote]I don't know for certain whether or not we are pursuing Lenihan but if we are why did we agree to have a gap between having our bid accepted and finalising the deal and getting him signed ? Once SH has said he wanted to add him to the squad and TB has sanctioned the purchase financially I assume it is down to DB and his team to get the deal over the line. Given the reported interest in Lenihan little was going to be gained by delaying the signing process. If we aren't successful in recruiting him will people be held to account or will they if he joins a PL club simply hide behind the mantra of 'Oh well we weren't able to compete against a PL side'. What we can offer is the greater chance of getting some game time either off the bench or as a starter this season, a less likely prospect with a PL team. I just hope DB & Co, if we are interested in this player, aren't slipping up on successfully finalising his acquisition. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 8

11:52pm Fri 22 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:
If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight.
Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank.
Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...'
I ask the question why couldn't we pull rank when we agreed a fee in the first place, what good would it off done for both clubs had he played tonight and got a serious injury would not make any sense, I think you could be right about you snooze, looks like we might off just done that unfortunately!!
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote: If he's been pulled out of the game, that suggests to me that the buying club has now insisted. When we were in 'pole position' he was happily playing tonight. Makes me think, another club has outbid and immediately pulled rank. Could be wrong, but if so, 'you snooze etc etc...'[/p][/quote]I ask the question why couldn't we pull rank when we agreed a fee in the first place, what good would it off done for both clubs had he played tonight and got a serious injury would not make any sense, I think you could be right about you snooze, looks like we might off just done that unfortunately!! Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: -5

11:54pm Fri 22 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

ballantrrae wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).
I don't know for certain whether or not we are pursuing Lenihan but if we are why did we agree to have a gap between having our bid accepted and finalising the deal and getting him signed ?
Once SH has said he wanted to add him to the squad and TB has sanctioned the purchase financially I assume it is down to DB and his team to get the deal over the line. Given the reported interest in Lenihan little was going to be gained by delaying the signing process.
If we aren't successful in recruiting him will people be held to account or will they if he joins a PL club simply hide behind the mantra of 'Oh well we weren't able to compete against a PL side'.
What we can offer is the greater chance of getting some game time either off the bench or as a starter this season, a less likely prospect with a PL team.
I just hope DB & Co, if we are interested in this player, aren't slipping up on successfully finalising his acquisition.
UTA.
Can't argue with your points ballantrea...totally agree with what you have said. Although we don't have all the facts, one would have thought that recent experiences would have taught them (BB&B) to be faster on the ball once a deal is agreed to.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: Maybe a bit premature in me saying this as the Cork deal is not yet dead, but I really don't like reading these stories that we have effectively 'wrapped up' players, only to see them slip away. I like reading about prospects we are looking at, but am not keen to read the ones that infer it's a 'done deal'....until it is (done).[/p][/quote]I don't know for certain whether or not we are pursuing Lenihan but if we are why did we agree to have a gap between having our bid accepted and finalising the deal and getting him signed ? Once SH has said he wanted to add him to the squad and TB has sanctioned the purchase financially I assume it is down to DB and his team to get the deal over the line. Given the reported interest in Lenihan little was going to be gained by delaying the signing process. If we aren't successful in recruiting him will people be held to account or will they if he joins a PL club simply hide behind the mantra of 'Oh well we weren't able to compete against a PL side'. What we can offer is the greater chance of getting some game time either off the bench or as a starter this season, a less likely prospect with a PL team. I just hope DB & Co, if we are interested in this player, aren't slipping up on successfully finalising his acquisition. UTA.[/p][/quote]Can't argue with your points ballantrea...totally agree with what you have said. Although we don't have all the facts, one would have thought that recent experiences would have taught them (BB&B) to be faster on the ball once a deal is agreed to. albionbloke
  • Score: 9

12:02am Sat 23 Aug 14

ballantrrae says...

wardfan wrote:
Brighton is his preferred choice.
Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA.
Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver.
Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett).
Potentially most frustrating. UTA.
[quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: Brighton is his preferred choice.[/p][/quote]Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA. Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver. Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett). Potentially most frustrating. UTA. ballantrrae
  • Score: 5

12:06am Sat 23 Aug 14

OldGull says...

Could someone tell the argus to keep a lid on things until it is a done deal

The Holla, Teixeira & Bennett deals seemed to get done without the Argus involvement
Could someone tell the argus to keep a lid on things until it is a done deal The Holla, Teixeira & Bennett deals seemed to get done without the Argus involvement OldGull
  • Score: 11

12:20am Sat 23 Aug 14

wardfan says...

ballantrrae wrote:
wardfan wrote:
Brighton is his preferred choice.
Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA.
Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver.
Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett).
Potentially most frustrating. UTA.
Reading all the Cork papers Brighton have won the race for the lad. Google the name, yesterday nothing about Brighton reference deal all about Arsenal Man utd & Hull.

One point today is, Brighton & Hove Albion win race, in Cork papers very strange . Common sense would suggest if Brain wants to player football Brighton should be the choice.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: Brighton is his preferred choice.[/p][/quote]Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA. Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver. Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett). Potentially most frustrating. UTA.[/p][/quote]Reading all the Cork papers Brighton have won the race for the lad. Google the name, yesterday nothing about Brighton reference deal all about Arsenal Man utd & Hull. One point today is, Brighton & Hove Albion win race, in Cork papers very strange . Common sense would suggest if Brain wants to player football Brighton should be the choice. wardfan
  • Score: 1

12:30am Sat 23 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

From NSC: No idea if genuine

Cork City FC News ‏@corkcityfcnews 39m

Brian Lenihan will travel to Brighton this weekend to discuss a potential move there. #bhafc #ccfc84 pic.twitter.com/3afz
FUApFP
From NSC: No idea if genuine Cork City FC News ‏@corkcityfcnews 39m Brian Lenihan will travel to Brighton this weekend to discuss a potential move there. #bhafc #ccfc84 pic.twitter.com/3afz FUApFP Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 6

12:37am Sat 23 Aug 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

Ha! Cork now suggesting Burnley are interested in the lad too! Many on here might not rate David Burke's scouting and recruitment network, but the suits at Turf Moor obviously do :-)
Ha! Cork now suggesting Burnley are interested in the lad too! Many on here might not rate David Burke's scouting and recruitment network, but the suits at Turf Moor obviously do :-) Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 12

12:44am Sat 23 Aug 14

JeffLomer says...

wardfan wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
wardfan wrote:
Brighton is his preferred choice.
Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA.
Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver.
Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett).
Potentially most frustrating. UTA.
Reading all the Cork papers Brighton have won the race for the lad. Google the name, yesterday nothing about Brighton reference deal all about Arsenal Man utd & Hull.

One point today is, Brighton & Hove Albion win race, in Cork papers very strange . Common sense would suggest if Brain wants to player football Brighton should be the choice.
Brighton win the race for him because it says so in there local rag, in the morning it might say Hull have beaten us to sign him, our local rag said Ward Clayton Baldock where in the bag and more to follow, I'll keep my eye out for them three tomorrow on the pitch in our team, until the ink is dried on his contract and he is standing there holding a Brighton shirt then no deal is done, common sense he should sign for is you suggest, common sense to me is agree a fee get him over for a medical agree terms give him a pen to sign his contract, if that doesn't happen some can always blame Burke like they usually do if a deal isn't finalised, time will tell in a day or two.
Up the Albion!!
[quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: Brighton is his preferred choice.[/p][/quote]Do you have a 'source' we can read that supports your comment ? Delighted if he really does favour BHA. Cork making a statement that they had accepted a bid certainly would have alerted other interested parties. Surprised we didn't insist on a news embargo (if we are interested) until the deal was signed, sealed and deliver. Are we about to be out manoeuvred again as we were with Ward ? (We may end up with a better bargain with Bennett). Potentially most frustrating. UTA.[/p][/quote]Reading all the Cork papers Brighton have won the race for the lad. Google the name, yesterday nothing about Brighton reference deal all about Arsenal Man utd & Hull. One point today is, Brighton & Hove Albion win race, in Cork papers very strange . Common sense would suggest if Brain wants to player football Brighton should be the choice.[/p][/quote]Brighton win the race for him because it says so in there local rag, in the morning it might say Hull have beaten us to sign him, our local rag said Ward Clayton Baldock where in the bag and more to follow, I'll keep my eye out for them three tomorrow on the pitch in our team, until the ink is dried on his contract and he is standing there holding a Brighton shirt then no deal is done, common sense he should sign for is you suggest, common sense to me is agree a fee get him over for a medical agree terms give him a pen to sign his contract, if that doesn't happen some can always blame Burke like they usually do if a deal isn't finalised, time will tell in a day or two. Up the Albion!! JeffLomer
  • Score: 6

1:18am Sat 23 Aug 14

M T Wallet says...

This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web:

Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1.

Related articles

- Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal
- Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham

Club statement:

"Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday.

The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium.

Man United interest

Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence.

Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman.

Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player.

Continued development

However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development.

A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.
This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web: Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1. Related articles - Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal - Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham Club statement: "Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday. The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player. Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium. Man United interest Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence. Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman. Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player. Continued development However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development. A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel. M T Wallet
  • Score: 12

1:49am Sat 23 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

M T Wallet wrote:
This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web:

Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1.

Related articles

- Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal
- Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham

Club statement:

"Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday.

The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium.

Man United interest

Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence.

Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman.

Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player.

Continued development

However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development.

A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.
Well quite frankly, if he's asttractuing the interest of Arsenal, MU and Spurs, then he shouldn't really be considering teams like Hull and Burnley. I would hope those that are guiding him would indeed see BHA as a stepping stone to possibly moving to one if the bigger glamour clubs in the future. Agree with you comments on this MTW.
[quote][p][bold]M T Wallet[/bold] wrote: This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web: Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1. Related articles - Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal - Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham Club statement: "Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday. The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player. Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium. Man United interest Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence. Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman. Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player. Continued development However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development. A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.[/p][/quote]Well quite frankly, if he's asttractuing the interest of Arsenal, MU and Spurs, then he shouldn't really be considering teams like Hull and Burnley. I would hope those that are guiding him would indeed see BHA as a stepping stone to possibly moving to one if the bigger glamour clubs in the future. Agree with you comments on this MTW. albionbloke
  • Score: 4

1:58am Sat 23 Aug 14

Sussex Flyer says...

Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank. Sussex Flyer
  • Score: 4

4:27am Sat 23 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Sussex Flyer wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Hmmmm.......interest
ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Flyer[/bold] wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.......interest ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later. albionbloke
  • Score: 6

7:21am Sat 23 Aug 14

Far gull says...

albionbloke wrote:
Sussex Flyer wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Hmmmm.......interest

ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.
This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done.
I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since.
Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor.
But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job.
I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?
[quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex Flyer[/bold] wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.......interest ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done. I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since. Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor. But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job. I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ? Far gull
  • Score: 1

7:49am Sat 23 Aug 14

albionbloke says...

Far gull wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Sussex Flyer wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Hmmmm.......interest


ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.
This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done.
I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since.
Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor.
But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job.
I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?
Good comments FG.....particularly your paragraph about Poyet. You might have hit the nail on the head with that observation.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex Flyer[/bold] wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.......interest ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done. I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since. Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor. But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job. I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?[/p][/quote]Good comments FG.....particularly your paragraph about Poyet. You might have hit the nail on the head with that observation. albionbloke
  • Score: 0

8:24am Sat 23 Aug 14

mikeygit says...

Old Gull--Agree, the Argus would do well to keep quiet about deals a little more often. Not suggesting they have instigated more interest from other clubs, but the fans get both exited by good prospects and disappointed with failure to get players. We have done well in the last week or so, but now feel a little apprehensive that we will get this player. Earlier in the week press coverage almost indicated he was our player. Not so, a long way to go now.!! UTA today with a good win.
Old Gull--Agree, the Argus would do well to keep quiet about deals a little more often. Not suggesting they have instigated more interest from other clubs, but the fans get both exited by good prospects and disappointed with failure to get players. We have done well in the last week or so, but now feel a little apprehensive that we will get this player. Earlier in the week press coverage almost indicated he was our player. Not so, a long way to go now.!! UTA today with a good win. mikeygit
  • Score: 0

9:11am Sat 23 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

SMF20 wrote:
There might be a compromise to be struck for this lad.

He will of course want the salary and prestige that a premiership will bring but equally he is unlikely to get much game time.... With this in mind, perhaps Sami could get on the phone to Bruce and ask for a season loan if they win the battle for his signature.
Maybe if Hull pay all his wages.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: There might be a compromise to be struck for this lad. He will of course want the salary and prestige that a premiership will bring but equally he is unlikely to get much game time.... With this in mind, perhaps Sami could get on the phone to Bruce and ask for a season loan if they win the battle for his signature.[/p][/quote]Maybe if Hull pay all his wages. Max Ripple
  • Score: 2

9:12am Sat 23 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

wardfan wrote:
Brighton is his preferred choice.
Is it? Why? How do you know?
[quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: Brighton is his preferred choice.[/p][/quote]Is it? Why? How do you know? Max Ripple
  • Score: 0

9:16am Sat 23 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

M T Wallet wrote:
This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web:

Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1.

Related articles

- Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal
- Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham

Club statement:

"Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday.

The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium.

Man United interest

Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence.

Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman.

Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player.

Continued development

However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development.

A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.
Ha! All speculation then. Let's move on. Big game today.
UTA
[quote][p][bold]M T Wallet[/bold] wrote: This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web: Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1. Related articles - Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal - Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham Club statement: "Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday. The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player. Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium. Man United interest Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence. Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman. Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player. Continued development However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development. A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.[/p][/quote]Ha! All speculation then. Let's move on. Big game today. UTA Max Ripple
  • Score: 0

9:29am Sat 23 Aug 14

brighton bluenose says...

Far gull wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Sussex Flyer wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Hmmmm.......interest


ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.
This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done.
I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since.
Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor.
But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job.
I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?
I said some while ago that Burke as a DoF would want the best talent in his squad and the same for Barber as CEO and therefore the real reason that we were not capturing our alleged targets was because their hands were tied due to financial pressures from above ie Tony Bloom and this news reinforces my assertion! My view has also been that Bloom wants to build a squad that has come through our youth development system aided and abetted by the odd loanee - Ward, Bennett, Tex- the odd short- term signing - McCoourt, Upson - as well as the existing 'old-timers' who will slowly be phased out as the youth such as Dunk, Ince, Solly etc mature into first-team regulars with maybe a surprise signing such as Ulloa or Holla along the way. As a result the success of the Academy is Blooms ultimate dream and we won't see the true benefits of that for two or three seasons yet!
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex Flyer[/bold] wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.......interest ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done. I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since. Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor. But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job. I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?[/p][/quote]I said some while ago that Burke as a DoF would want the best talent in his squad and the same for Barber as CEO and therefore the real reason that we were not capturing our alleged targets was because their hands were tied due to financial pressures from above ie Tony Bloom and this news reinforces my assertion! My view has also been that Bloom wants to build a squad that has come through our youth development system aided and abetted by the odd loanee - Ward, Bennett, Tex- the odd short- term signing - McCoourt, Upson - as well as the existing 'old-timers' who will slowly be phased out as the youth such as Dunk, Ince, Solly etc mature into first-team regulars with maybe a surprise signing such as Ulloa or Holla along the way. As a result the success of the Academy is Blooms ultimate dream and we won't see the true benefits of that for two or three seasons yet! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

9:53am Sat 23 Aug 14

AGT999 says...

I think Brighton are just being used (again) to flush out the bigger clubs so Cork can get a deal done before the end of the month. Similar to the Ward saga.
I think Brighton are just being used (again) to flush out the bigger clubs so Cork can get a deal done before the end of the month. Similar to the Ward saga. AGT999
  • Score: 1

10:32am Sat 23 Aug 14

wardfan says...

M T Wallet wrote:
This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web:

Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1.

Related articles

- Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal
- Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham

Club statement:

"Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday.

The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium.

Man United interest

Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence.

Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman.

Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player.

Continued development

However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development.

A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.
Well done exactly what I was saying.
[quote][p][bold]M T Wallet[/bold] wrote: This might be of interest, from Givemesport on the web: Sami Hyypia's Seagulls look to have seen off competition from a host of rival suitors, and are hoping to unveil the 20-year-old before the transfer window closes on September 1. Related articles - Brian Lenihan in talks with Arsenal - Brian Lenihan watched by Arsenal, Manchester United & Tottenham Club statement: "Cork City Football Club can confirm that the club has received an offer for our player, Brian Lenihan, which has been accepted," read the statement on Thursday. The news that Brighton are set to secure Lenihan's signature comes as a quite a surprise, particularly when you consider the calibre of clubs reportedly courting the player. Gunners boss Arsene Wenger sent scouts over to Ireland to watch the right-back in action on numerous occasions last season, and had seriously considered an offer to take him to the Emirates Stadium. Man United interest Manchester United's interested in the versatile star began long before the arrival of Louis van Gaal at Old Trafford. But, given the Dutchman's tendency to play a 3-5-2 formation with the use of wing-backs, Lenihan still seemed like a viable option for the Red Devils, considering his ability to play at centre-back and on the right side of defence. Tottenham are among a number of mid-level Premier League clubs - along with Everton and Aston Villa - that have also been credited with an interest in Lenihan's services, but Mauricio Pochettino looks set to miss out on the chance of luring the player to White Hart Lane as well, with Brighton seemingly the chosen destination for the Irishman. Attention from the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal and Spurs is not a fabricated rumour without substantiation, given the fact that Cork City manager John Caulfield previously confirmed that each of those clubs had been keeping a close eye on the player. Continued development However, it looks as though the people around him have got Lenihan's best interests at heart, and realise that the chance to play regularly on the south coast with Brighton will be best for his continued development. A big money move to one of the Premier League's elite might be a realistic possibility in the future, but first the young defender will have to prove he has what it takes to succeed across the channel.[/p][/quote]Well done exactly what I was saying. wardfan
  • Score: 0

10:32am Sat 23 Aug 14

Rougvie Legend says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Far gull wrote:
albionbloke wrote:
Sussex Flyer wrote:
Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts.

Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.
Hmmmm.......interest



ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.
This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done.
I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since.
Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor.
But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job.
I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?
I said some while ago that Burke as a DoF would want the best talent in his squad and the same for Barber as CEO and therefore the real reason that we were not capturing our alleged targets was because their hands were tied due to financial pressures from above ie Tony Bloom and this news reinforces my assertion! My view has also been that Bloom wants to build a squad that has come through our youth development system aided and abetted by the odd loanee - Ward, Bennett, Tex- the odd short- term signing - McCoourt, Upson - as well as the existing 'old-timers' who will slowly be phased out as the youth such as Dunk, Ince, Solly etc mature into first-team regulars with maybe a surprise signing such as Ulloa or Holla along the way. As a result the success of the Academy is Blooms ultimate dream and we won't see the true benefits of that for two or three seasons yet!
All the above does make sense, best hope future charges etc against the club are now covered as we have now sold all the silverware and don't really want to be securing loans etc against the facilities if avoidable, tis disappointing but what first Dick and then Tony have done has been incredible and every time I approach the stadium on match days I feel an immense feeling of pride and gratitude, onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albionbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex Flyer[/bold] wrote: Is anyone else concerned about the clubs finances in that we appear to be selling players for large amounts of money, £14m recouped in the past year or so and very little spent on new signings. Is this to cover debts that we have incurred over the past 3 or 4 years. Due to this I started to look into the clubs last set of published accounts. This brought up a couple of interesting points in that they state that the club has liabilities of £10m that were due to be paid in the last year, this would be on top of any loss that the club make in this year. This would explain why we are not spending any of the money from player sales. I fear the losses for the past year are going to be a lot higher than those shown in the last accounts. Also while looking at the accounts on the Companies House website, I have noticed that Barclays Bank have taken out a charge against the clubs assets in June, as far as I’m aware this was never reported anywhere so was a bit of a shock. From what I can gather this charge would appear to be to cover Barclays for the cash they are owed, either due to a loan or more probably an overdraft. This would suggest that Tony Bloom is short of funds and the overdraft has got to such a level that Barclays are worried that the club will struggle to pay it back and so have agreed a charge on the clubs assets. If we default on the borrowed money or we fall into administration then the ownership of the new ground, training facilities and players would pass to Barclays Bank.[/p][/quote]Hmmmm.......interest ing observations SF. Possibly does explain why we haven't spent the incoming transfer money. Although its not unusual for banks to take a charge on assets, I find it interesting that this was done in June. I do think you may be right that TB may be short of the 'readies'. The next published statements should be interesting reading and may give us a clue as to what we might expect over the next 2-3 years. One thing is clear though, promotion to the PL is a sure-fire way of solving any debt issues we may have lurking. So let's hope we get there sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]This is no surprise. TB for all the wonderful things he has done is not an Arab or Russian billionaire. We have lost money for the last three seasons and i don't care how creative accountants can be losses cica 8-14 million a year need to be addressed and that is what they have done. I still believe thats why TB was so upset with Gus's behaviour, he backed him in the transfer market, took a calculated gamble we would go up. We didn't and have been picking up the pieces since. Barber and Burke have in all truth probably had their hands tied with transfer monies hence difficulties i closing out deals, making them look from the outside poor. But the truth is it may not be all their fault hence Tony is actually not as many fans are thinking them poor at their job. I suppose although we may be over spent on training facilities ( i critised the amount spent) at leastwe now have an asset to borrow against that can't get injured or lose form and then value ?[/p][/quote]I said some while ago that Burke as a DoF would want the best talent in his squad and the same for Barber as CEO and therefore the real reason that we were not capturing our alleged targets was because their hands were tied due to financial pressures from above ie Tony Bloom and this news reinforces my assertion! My view has also been that Bloom wants to build a squad that has come through our youth development system aided and abetted by the odd loanee - Ward, Bennett, Tex- the odd short- term signing - McCoourt, Upson - as well as the existing 'old-timers' who will slowly be phased out as the youth such as Dunk, Ince, Solly etc mature into first-team regulars with maybe a surprise signing such as Ulloa or Holla along the way. As a result the success of the Academy is Blooms ultimate dream and we won't see the true benefits of that for two or three seasons yet![/p][/quote]All the above does make sense, best hope future charges etc against the club are now covered as we have now sold all the silverware and don't really want to be securing loans etc against the facilities if avoidable, tis disappointing but what first Dick and then Tony have done has been incredible and every time I approach the stadium on match days I feel an immense feeling of pride and gratitude, onwards and upwards Rougvie Legend
  • Score: 1

1:38pm Sat 23 Aug 14

seagull espanola says...

Max Ripple wrote:
wardfan wrote:
Brighton is his preferred choice.
Is it? Why? How do you know?
Just read this interview with Lenihan: - http://www.extratime
.ie/newsdesk/article
s/12894/lenihan-drea
ms-to-come-through-a
s-cork-accept-second
-bid/
Note the second to last paragraph. Promising?
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Max Ripple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wardfan[/bold] wrote: Brighton is his preferred choice.[/p][/quote]Is it? Why? How do you know?[/p][/quote]Just read this interview with Lenihan: - http://www.extratime .ie/newsdesk/article s/12894/lenihan-drea ms-to-come-through-a s-cork-accept-second -bid/ Note the second to last paragraph. Promising? UTA seagull espanola
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