Vicente is best off the bench

Vicente started the game at Blackburn three weeks ago

Vicente started the game at Blackburn three weeks ago

First published in Albion by , Chief sports reporter

Vicente has been urged to carry on being a supersub until he gets fitter.

The injury-plagued Spanish playmaker came off the bench to score Albion’s late free-kick winner against Hull at The Amex on Saturday.

He made his only Championship start of the season in the 1-1 draw at Blackburn Rovers three weeks ago but assistant manager Mauricio Taricco believes Vicente would be better off staying as an impact substitute in the return clash tonight.

Taricco said: “It’s difficult because, as we all know, he is a quality player.

“In my opinion he needs to be a little bit fitter, physically a bit stronger to cope with 90 minutes.

“If I was him I would prefer to come on in the last 35 minutes, because the opposition is tired and fresh and normally, depending on the score at the time, he has got a great opportunity to be what he was the other day.

“He scored the goal, made a few nice passes, got the headlines, so if I was him I would probably prefer to come on.

“He could play from the first minute and do what he did in the last 35 in the first 35. Then that opens up the game for you and it can work out well anyway. It’s a tricky decision for us. We want him on the pitch but we don’t want to burn him so we are trying to manage it the best way we can.”

Taricco is desperate to follow up the Hull result with another victory against relegated Rovers, who have risen almost unnoticed into the play-off picture themselves in a turbulent season.

He said: “There is no question that if we want to try to nick a place in the play-offs it’s about winning and winning and winning.

“We are nearly there but you need to think that Middlesbrough have lost their last five games and they are still in the play-offs. They should have a good run, so you need an even better run to get there.

“It’s up to us. There are a lot of games to play but we need to get better and more consistent in terms of results, not performance.”

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9:47am Tue 12 Feb 13

saraman says...

For the next 2 or 3 games I would agree. Bring him on for second half tonight to be the game changer again if it's still 0-0. If we are winning Gus may not take the risk. After that I would like to see him start a game.
For the next 2 or 3 games I would agree. Bring him on for second half tonight to be the game changer again if it's still 0-0. If we are winning Gus may not take the risk. After that I would like to see him start a game. saraman
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10:13am Tue 12 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

And on the Beeb Vicente is quoted as saying "What I need is to play regularly; not just 10 minutes, 20 minutes or half and hour. You get fit if you are playing more consistently or more regularly. It is the decision of the coach"

To all his doubters, does that sound like someone who doesn't want to play, someone whose head is all wrong?
And on the Beeb Vicente is quoted as saying "What I need [to get fully fit] is to play regularly; not just 10 minutes, 20 minutes or half and hour. You get fit if you are playing more consistently or more regularly. It is the decision of the coach" To all his doubters, does that sound like someone who doesn't want to play, someone whose head is all wrong? Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:22am Tue 12 Feb 13

Yorkieseagull says...

It's a thrill to see him stood on the touchline just before he comes on, and if you watch the opposition bench at the same time they all look a little more tense. It's the drama we pay to watch.
It's a thrill to see him stood on the touchline just before he comes on, and if you watch the opposition bench at the same time they all look a little more tense. It's the drama we pay to watch. Yorkieseagull
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10:29am Tue 12 Feb 13

tug509 says...

I may be wrong,but i think the goals that Vicente has scored at the Amex,have all been at the North Stand!,so second half it is. UTA
I may be wrong,but i think the goals that Vicente has scored at the Amex,have all been at the North Stand!,so second half it is. UTA tug509
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10:38am Tue 12 Feb 13

saraman says...

Didn't he score against Pompy last season in the south goal Tug?. I wasn't at that game so can't be sure.
Didn't he score against Pompy last season in the south goal Tug?. I wasn't at that game so can't be sure. saraman
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10:40am Tue 12 Feb 13

tug509 says...

Sorry Saraman,those two,the free kick,and the Lua Lua put through were definitely at the North. UTA
Sorry Saraman,those two,the free kick,and the Lua Lua put through were definitely at the North. UTA tug509
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10:45am Tue 12 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

That was at the north end too, Saraman. Virtually identical to the goal on Saturday. Actually, he scored both goals against Pompey but both at that end.

Lets hope we can keep it at least to 0-0 up to the hour mark tonight then so he can come on and win it again. Or is this all part of a cunning plan to put Blackburn off the scent?!

2 up front and Vicente off the bench could actually be Vicente starting off of Ulloa and Buckley flying down the wing!
That was at the north end too, Saraman. Virtually identical to the goal on Saturday. Actually, he scored both goals against Pompey but both at that end. Lets hope we can keep it at least to 0-0 up to the hour mark tonight then so he can come on and win it again. Or is this all part of a cunning plan to put Blackburn off the scent?! 2 up front and Vicente off the bench could actually be Vicente starting off of Ulloa and Buckley flying down the wing! WestStander17
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10:57am Tue 12 Feb 13

albioninmadrid says...

Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links. albioninmadrid
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11:12am Tue 12 Feb 13

saraman says...

tug509 wrote:
Sorry Saraman,those two,the free kick,and the Lua Lua put through were definitely at the North. UTA
Thanks for the correction Tug.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Sorry Saraman,those two,the free kick,and the Lua Lua put through were definitely at the North. UTA[/p][/quote]Thanks for the correction Tug. saraman
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11:14am Tue 12 Feb 13

mrgull says...

Whether vincente starts or comes on 2nd half.its important that he performs.What is more important is that we perform as a team...get the right result and send a clear message to all the other teams that we mean business and its the premiership for us.Get them looking over their shoulders and start to worry
Whether vincente starts or comes on 2nd half.its important that he performs.What is more important is that we perform as a team...get the right result and send a clear message to all the other teams that we mean business and its the premiership for us.Get them looking over their shoulders and start to worry mrgull
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11:21am Tue 12 Feb 13

sloughseagull says...

Lets get Adam into Rhodes tonight, sneaky elbow onto his recently repaired broken nose might just put him off slightly. Last time I saw Blackburn was at the Goldstone, Sam Aladyce was playing centre half, who according to the Sun Gus will be replacing at West Ham in the summer, and we won 2-0. That will do for tonight! UTA!
Lets get Adam into Rhodes tonight, sneaky elbow onto his recently repaired broken nose might just put him off slightly. Last time I saw Blackburn was at the Goldstone, Sam Aladyce was playing centre half, who according to the Sun Gus will be replacing at West Ham in the summer, and we won 2-0. That will do for tonight! UTA! sloughseagull
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11:22am Tue 12 Feb 13

Jonathan Mouette says...

albioninmadrid wrote:
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
I wouldn't go as far as to say CMS is a weak link but I agree with the sentiment that WH and WB get more time. Hoskins cannot prove his worth as so many cry about if he is stuck on the bench. With regard to the first part I am curious as to whether Vicente would go back (with absolutely no disrespect to La Liga) if the Albion went up. He has done La Liga, got the t-shirt etc... but he hasn't been near the PL and that may be oh so tempting... Fingers crossed.
[quote][p][bold]albioninmadrid[/bold] wrote: Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't go as far as to say CMS is a weak link but I agree with the sentiment that WH and WB get more time. Hoskins cannot prove his worth as so many cry about if he is stuck on the bench. With regard to the first part I am curious as to whether Vicente would go back (with absolutely no disrespect to La Liga) if the Albion went up. He has done La Liga, got the t-shirt etc... but he hasn't been near the PL and that may be oh so tempting... Fingers crossed. Jonathan Mouette
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11:23am Tue 12 Feb 13

dave from bexill says...

albioninmadrid wrote:
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.
[quote][p][bold]albioninmadrid[/bold] wrote: Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.[/p][/quote]Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link. dave from bexill
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12:00pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

dave from bexill wrote:
albioninmadrid wrote:
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.
See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon.
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioninmadrid[/bold] wrote: Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.[/p][/quote]Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.[/p][/quote]See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon. Old Scrote of the Amex
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12:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Hovite says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
albioninmadrid wrote:
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.
See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon.
OSA, it is just the same old little troll, getting into a different name. It has it's in your face characters, and it has it's subtle ones that echo others negative posts. Basically feeding off any negative comment and adding their own ones to make up the negative numbers.

This is the trolls job, he / she works hard on their strategy and it takes it very seriously.

The posts that stand out are there to hide the ones that don’t ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioninmadrid[/bold] wrote: Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.[/p][/quote]Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.[/p][/quote]See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon.[/p][/quote]OSA, it is just the same old little troll, getting into a different name. It has it's in your face characters, and it has it's subtle ones that echo others negative posts. Basically feeding off any negative comment and adding their own ones to make up the negative numbers. This is the trolls job, he / she works hard on their strategy and it takes it very seriously. The posts that stand out are there to hide the ones that don’t ;o) Hovite
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12:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Perseus says...

There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well.

My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though)
Kuszczak
Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge
Buckley Lopez Hammond
Vicente
Ulloa Mackail-Smith
There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well. My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though) Kuszczak Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge Buckley Lopez Hammond Vicente Ulloa Mackail-Smith Perseus
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12:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Jonathan Mouette says...

Good grief - has anyone picked up on the rumour GP is now favourite to take over at West Ham... How on earth would Poyetry in Motion work with those brought up on Fat Sam's Big Boot strategy. Doomed to failure before it even sees the starting blocks. Think again Brady and Gold...
Good grief - has anyone picked up on the rumour GP is now favourite to take over at West Ham... How on earth would Poyetry in Motion work with those brought up on Fat Sam's Big Boot strategy. Doomed to failure before it even sees the starting blocks. Think again Brady and Gold... Jonathan Mouette
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12:49pm Tue 12 Feb 13

russellsnr2 says...

At the end of the day it will the team that Gus puts and he can play himself if he wants as long as we come out with the three points, need to win the home games to have any chance of a play off place.
Pity the game is not on TV as there are no really other important games tonight!!!!!
At the end of the day it will the team that Gus puts and he can play himself if he wants as long as we come out with the three points, need to win the home games to have any chance of a play off place. Pity the game is not on TV as there are no really other important games tonight!!!!! russellsnr2
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12:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Hovite says...

Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point.
Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point. Hovite
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1:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13

allbarnunn says...

mrgull wrote:
Whether vincente starts or comes on 2nd half.its important that he performs.What is more important is that we perform as a team...get the right result and send a clear message to all the other teams that we mean business and its the premiership for us.Get them looking over their shoulders and start to worry
Over relying on one, admittedly excellent individual, would be worrying. Everyone has to step up to the plate with ambition attitude and application.its in our hands .....
[quote][p][bold]mrgull[/bold] wrote: Whether vincente starts or comes on 2nd half.its important that he performs.What is more important is that we perform as a team...get the right result and send a clear message to all the other teams that we mean business and its the premiership for us.Get them looking over their shoulders and start to worry[/p][/quote]Over relying on one, admittedly excellent individual, would be worrying. Everyone has to step up to the plate with ambition attitude and application.its in our hands ..... allbarnunn
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1:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

tug509 says...

Perseus wrote:
There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well.

My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though)
Kuszczak
Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge
Buckley Lopez Hammond
Vicente
Ulloa Mackail-Smith
Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Perseus[/bold] wrote: There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well. My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though) Kuszczak Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge Buckley Lopez Hammond Vicente Ulloa Mackail-Smith[/p][/quote]Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA tug509
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1:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Bushell says...

Bridcutt has to play so ' Perseus ' dont agree with you there I am afraid !
Bridcutt has to play so ' Perseus ' dont agree with you there I am afraid ! Bushell
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1:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

tinker111 says...

sloughseagull wrote:
Lets get Adam into Rhodes tonight, sneaky elbow onto his recently repaired broken nose might just put him off slightly. Last time I saw Blackburn was at the Goldstone, Sam Aladyce was playing centre half, who according to the Sun Gus will be replacing at West Ham in the summer, and we won 2-0. That will do for tonight! UTA!
dont think Ab Dab is quick enough to get on the nose shirt tail maybe
[quote][p][bold]sloughseagull[/bold] wrote: Lets get Adam into Rhodes tonight, sneaky elbow onto his recently repaired broken nose might just put him off slightly. Last time I saw Blackburn was at the Goldstone, Sam Aladyce was playing centre half, who according to the Sun Gus will be replacing at West Ham in the summer, and we won 2-0. That will do for tonight! UTA![/p][/quote]dont think Ab Dab is quick enough to get on the nose shirt tail maybe tinker111
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1:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

tinker111 says...

tug509 wrote:
Perseus wrote:
There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well.

My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though)
Kuszczak
Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge
Buckley Lopez Hammond
Vicente
Ulloa Mackail-Smith
Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA
Hammond OUT DICKER IN
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Perseus[/bold] wrote: There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well. My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though) Kuszczak Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge Buckley Lopez Hammond Vicente Ulloa Mackail-Smith[/p][/quote]Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA[/p][/quote]Hammond OUT DICKER IN tinker111
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1:44pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Hovite wrote:
Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point.
They are made for each other. One with a quick brain and precision distrbution, the other with quick feet and the desire to get on the end of one of those cutting passes...

When playing together they offer the team a welcome injection of pace and the potential to split the oppostion defence with ease.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point.[/p][/quote]They are made for each other. One with a quick brain and precision distrbution, the other with quick feet and the desire to get on the end of one of those cutting passes... When playing together they offer the team a welcome injection of pace and the potential to split the oppostion defence with ease. Willie, Willie Irvine
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1:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

fratsomrover says...

Whats with all these comments about keeping it at 0 v 0 for 60 mins and then bring Vicente on ?
I'm rather hoping we'll be 2 or 3 goals up in 60 mins. Hasn't that been the problem this season, not scoring in the first alf and opening up a lead. WE are the home team and the onus is on us not only to win but to win well because GD might come into the equation at the end of the season.
Whats with all these comments about keeping it at 0 v 0 for 60 mins and then bring Vicente on ? I'm rather hoping we'll be 2 or 3 goals up in 60 mins. Hasn't that been the problem this season, not scoring in the first alf and opening up a lead. WE are the home team and the onus is on us not only to win but to win well because GD might come into the equation at the end of the season. fratsomrover
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2:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Whats with all these comments about keeping it at 0 v 0 for 60 mins and then bring Vicente on ? I'm rather hoping we'll be 2 or 3 goals up in 60 mins. Hasn't that been the problem this season, not scoring in the first alf and opening up a lead. WE are the home team and the onus is on us not only to win but to win well because GD might come into the equation at the end of the season.
On my part, it was more a wish to be in that situation than being behind and relying on Vicente to get us back into the game. It could be a lot worse than 0-0 after 60 mins with Vicente coming on.

I'd start him and try to get a lead to hang onto when he has gone off. The pace of LuaLua & Buckley would still be a threat against tiring players if needed but hopefully The Dagger will have destroyed them by then!

I'd go back to one up top. With Buckley in for CMS and Vicente in for Orlandi. Keep the rest as it was on Saturday. If Gus continues with 2 up top as he says, just Vicente in for Orlandi from Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Whats with all these comments about keeping it at 0 v 0 for 60 mins and then bring Vicente on ? I'm rather hoping we'll be 2 or 3 goals up in 60 mins. Hasn't that been the problem this season, not scoring in the first alf and opening up a lead. WE are the home team and the onus is on us not only to win but to win well because GD might come into the equation at the end of the season.[/p][/quote]On my part, it was more a wish to be in that situation than being behind and relying on Vicente to get us back into the game. It could be a lot worse than 0-0 after 60 mins with Vicente coming on. I'd start him and try to get a lead to hang onto when he has gone off. The pace of LuaLua & Buckley would still be a threat against tiring players if needed but hopefully The Dagger will have destroyed them by then! I'd go back to one up top. With Buckley in for CMS and Vicente in for Orlandi. Keep the rest as it was on Saturday. If Gus continues with 2 up top as he says, just Vicente in for Orlandi from Saturday. WestStander17
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2:31pm Tue 12 Feb 13

CJN says...

So long as Alan El Abd is still on the pitch when he comes on - someone's got to move the wall! Need a result tonight!
So long as Alan El Abd is still on the pitch when he comes on - someone's got to move the wall! Need a result tonight! CJN
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2:50pm Tue 12 Feb 13

CJN says...

So long as Adam El Abd is still on the pitch when he comes on - someone's got to move the wall! Need a result tonight!
So long as Adam El Abd is still on the pitch when he comes on - someone's got to move the wall! Need a result tonight! CJN
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3:18pm Tue 12 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Vicente is best off the bench, nah Vicente is the best period.

There has to be a time when Vicente starts but I think he accepts that he is not as yet 100% match fit. It would seem to me, and I will have to rely on you guys that see the team play more than I do, that Orlandi would be the one to miss out to make way for Vicente to start. I am not sure that I like that idea.
With a lone striker it would be much easier to bring Vicente in but I don't want to go back to that.
Would it be a totally off the wall suggestion if I said, how about starting Vicente with Ulloa? Not today, but maybe in the near future.
Vicente is best off the bench, nah Vicente is the best period. There has to be a time when Vicente starts but I think he accepts that he is not as yet 100% match fit. It would seem to me, and I will have to rely on you guys that see the team play more than I do, that Orlandi would be the one to miss out to make way for Vicente to start. I am not sure that I like that idea. With a lone striker it would be much easier to bring Vicente in but I don't want to go back to that. Would it be a totally off the wall suggestion if I said, how about starting Vicente with Ulloa? Not today, but maybe in the near future. VegasSeagull
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4:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

tug509 says...

tinker111 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Perseus wrote:
There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well.

My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though)
Kuszczak
Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge
Buckley Lopez Hammond
Vicente
Ulloa Mackail-Smith
Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA
Hammond OUT DICKER IN
Its a tough one Tinker,Dicker has a great eye for a pass,but when i replied to Perseus,i cant believe i didn`t notice the absence of Liam!.

I think if we play two forward,it MIGHT,help keep the play up their end away from Rhodes. But of course they have Kazim Richards and DJ Campbell,so it is going to be very tough for Gus to get it right tonight. If your going Tinker i hope you enjoy the game. UTA
[quote][p][bold]tinker111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Perseus[/bold] wrote: There is a bit snag, of course. How can Vicnete put the ball at the feet of a tiring Ulloa. Ulloa cannot last the full 90 minutes either. I want to see them on the pitch at full throttle together. This problem is amplified in the absence of Barnes. Vicnete is better with wide outlets in the presence of Buckley or LuaLua as well. My team: 4-3-3 (rather like a Capello 4-4-2 though) Kuszczak Calderon El Abd Upson Bridge Buckley Lopez Hammond Vicente Ulloa Mackail-Smith[/p][/quote]Quite like the idea of a 4-3-3,but i would change Hammond for Orlandi or Lua Lua,and give Craig a much needed rest,and play Hoskins,who must have bitten clean through that bit never mind chomped on it!. UTA[/p][/quote]Hammond OUT DICKER IN[/p][/quote]Its a tough one Tinker,Dicker has a great eye for a pass,but when i replied to Perseus,i cant believe i didn`t notice the absence of Liam!. I think if we play two forward,it MIGHT,help keep the play up their end away from Rhodes. But of course they have Kazim Richards and DJ Campbell,so it is going to be very tough for Gus to get it right tonight. If your going Tinker i hope you enjoy the game. UTA tug509
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4:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

Hovite wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
albioninmadrid wrote:
Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.
Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.
See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon.
OSA, it is just the same old little troll, getting into a different name. It has it's in your face characters, and it has it's subtle ones that echo others negative posts. Basically feeding off any negative comment and adding their own ones to make up the negative numbers.

This is the trolls job, he / she works hard on their strategy and it takes it very seriously.

The posts that stand out are there to hide the ones that don’t ;o)
You talk out your back side you sad little man.This from someone that now has five post names from what the Argus can tell.Plus you feel the need to phone the Argus almost everyday asking them to remove posts from Freeloaders.You may give different names but they know your voice you sad little man.Now get a life,or more to the point some real friends.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioninmadrid[/bold] wrote: Probably best for Vicente to carry on as a sub.tonight,then he's got a week to get fitter before the Cardiff match.Enjoy him while you can,Elche are top of the Spanish 2nd division and look sure to go up,so could be Vicente's future club.I hope Hoskins and Buckley get more time on the pitch,Hammond and MackailSmith are clearly the weak links.[/p][/quote]Hello albioninmadrid. You don't actually explain why you think our leading goalscorer is a weak link.[/p][/quote]See bandwagon, jump on bandwagon.[/p][/quote]OSA, it is just the same old little troll, getting into a different name. It has it's in your face characters, and it has it's subtle ones that echo others negative posts. Basically feeding off any negative comment and adding their own ones to make up the negative numbers. This is the trolls job, he / she works hard on their strategy and it takes it very seriously. The posts that stand out are there to hide the ones that don’t ;o)[/p][/quote]You talk out your back side you sad little man.This from someone that now has five post names from what the Argus can tell.Plus you feel the need to phone the Argus almost everyday asking them to remove posts from Freeloaders.You may give different names but they know your voice you sad little man.Now get a life,or more to the point some real friends. Freeloaders
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4:33pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

Why you still on here Hovite after what you said about the site again yesterday.Lets not forget what you said about the people that post on here.Why would you go back to something you claim you dislike so much.How sad would that make you lol.
Why you still on here Hovite after what you said about the site again yesterday.Lets not forget what you said about the people that post on here.Why would you go back to something you claim you dislike so much.How sad would that make you lol. Freeloaders
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4:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Your thoughts on tonight's game Freeloader?
Your thoughts on tonight's game Freeloader? VegasSeagull
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4:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

I wonder if we are allowed to put our e-mail addys on here, I owuld love to e-mail a few of you to get your home land line number,so as to be able to call you after you attend the game.

I can call two or three people now but they don't always get to the matches but they get to most.

I'll call so the costs would be mine.
I wonder if we are allowed to put our e-mail addys on here, I owuld love to e-mail a few of you to get your home land line number,so as to be able to call you after you attend the game. I can call two or three people now but they don't always get to the matches but they get to most. I'll call so the costs would be mine. VegasSeagull
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5:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

Hiya Vegas im going with a 2-1 win for the Albion.Some very sad news on Bobby Z the poor guy can now only play 45 mins tops,and then can't walk for three days after without pain.All this at just 32.Looks like he will be out the game between 8 or 12mths at the end of the season.Real shame his a top guy on and off the pitch.
Hiya Vegas im going with a 2-1 win for the Albion.Some very sad news on Bobby Z the poor guy can now only play 45 mins tops,and then can't walk for three days after without pain.All this at just 32.Looks like he will be out the game between 8 or 12mths at the end of the season.Real shame his a top guy on and off the pitch. Freeloaders
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5:40pm Tue 12 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Freeloaders wrote:
Hiya Vegas im going with a 2-1 win for the Albion.Some very sad news on Bobby Z the poor guy can now only play 45 mins tops,and then can't walk for three days after without pain.All this at just 32.Looks like he will be out the game between 8 or 12mths at the end of the season.Real shame his a top guy on and off the pitch.
Hiya Freeloader. I am thinking 2-0 and possibly better. It has been a while since we last really turned on the style in the league and we know thta we have the players to do so. The importance of this game and the importance of beating Hull might be the turning point.

Yes very sad to hear about Booby Z, hopefuly it is a known condition that can be treated rather than his body simply wearing out.

Tonight is a big night Freeloader, I trust that you are as excited about it as I am.
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[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: Hiya Vegas im going with a 2-1 win for the Albion.Some very sad news on Bobby Z the poor guy can now only play 45 mins tops,and then can't walk for three days after without pain.All this at just 32.Looks like he will be out the game between 8 or 12mths at the end of the season.Real shame his a top guy on and off the pitch.[/p][/quote]Hiya Freeloader. I am thinking 2-0 and possibly better. It has been a while since we last really turned on the style in the league and we know thta we have the players to do so. The importance of this game and the importance of beating Hull might be the turning point. Yes very sad to hear about Booby Z, hopefuly it is a known condition that can be treated rather than his body simply wearing out. Tonight is a big night Freeloader, I trust that you are as excited about it as I am. , VegasSeagull
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5:47pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Hovite says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point.
They are made for each other. One with a quick brain and precision distrbution, the other with quick feet and the desire to get on the end of one of those cutting passes...

When playing together they offer the team a welcome injection of pace and the potential to split the oppostion defence with ease.
Yep UTA
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Vicente linked up very well with KLL last season and seemed to be on a natural wavelength. Would like to see them on together at some point.[/p][/quote]They are made for each other. One with a quick brain and precision distrbution, the other with quick feet and the desire to get on the end of one of those cutting passes... When playing together they offer the team a welcome injection of pace and the potential to split the oppostion defence with ease.[/p][/quote]Yep UTA Hovite
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5:51pm Tue 12 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite how would you incorporate Vicente into the starting eleven, givien that we now play two strikers?

Would you even start with Vicente?
Hovite how would you incorporate Vicente into the starting eleven, givien that we now play two strikers? Would you even start with Vicente? VegasSeagull
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12:14am Wed 13 Feb 13

Hovite says...

Just saw your message, yes I would start with Vicente.
Just saw your message, yes I would start with Vicente. Hovite
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