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Stop thinking about play-offs, says Ulloa

The Argus: Leo Ulloa celebrates one of his goals at Leicester on Tuesday Leo Ulloa celebrates one of his goals at Leicester on Tuesday

Leo Ulloa has urged Albion to forget all about play-off permutations – and concentrate on turning on the style at home.

The 14-goal striker admits the Seagulls have reignited their top-six hopes with a 4-1 win at Leicester on Tuesday.

But he reckons they cannot get caught up in working out who needs what or which team can pip them to a play-off berth.

Albion face a home test by lowly but in-form Charlton as they return to the Amex on Saturday.

Ulloa, right, said: “If we keep thinking about play-offs, it’s going to make life more difficult.

“Of course we are conscious of where we are in the league table but we need to keep producing performances.

“There are lots of teams involved and this race for the play-offs is not straightforward.

“Any team playing like we did on Tuesday have got to have a chance but we need to keep thinking about the game that’s coming up.

“Charlton will be very different – just like Barnsley was last Saturday, “That was a real battle, lots of long balls.

“I love playing like we did on Tuesday – not just because of the win but because of the style of football we were able to play.

“But it won’t always be like that.”

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6:58am Thu 10 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

I have!
I have! Aye Aye
  • Score: -15

7:14am Thu 10 Apr 14

fatso says...

I would be happy for another performance like Tuesday. I keep reading about Leicester's promotion hangover but our passing and movement from the first minute on Tuesday was better than I had seen for a long while. I did not think we would have a chance of the playoffs before Tuesday but now I have renewed optimism especially with the run in we have.
I would be happy for another performance like Tuesday. I keep reading about Leicester's promotion hangover but our passing and movement from the first minute on Tuesday was better than I had seen for a long while. I did not think we would have a chance of the playoffs before Tuesday but now I have renewed optimism especially with the run in we have. fatso
  • Score: 29

7:20am Thu 10 Apr 14

impose our game gull says...

Absolutely. Ignore them and focus on the task and moment in hand!!

UTA!!
Absolutely. Ignore them and focus on the task and moment in hand!! UTA!! impose our game gull
  • Score: 8

8:31am Thu 10 Apr 14

Clean Sheet says...

Wise words Leo. We have made the task really tough with our results recently, but we have to stick to the cliche, one game at a time.
Wise words Leo. We have made the task really tough with our results recently, but we have to stick to the cliche, one game at a time. Clean Sheet
  • Score: 9

9:21am Thu 10 Apr 14

SeagullOverSelsey says...

BREAKING NEWS!!!
According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted
BREAKING NEWS!!! According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted SeagullOverSelsey
  • Score: -13

9:36am Thu 10 Apr 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

This is a very sensible approach. All we can do is take each game as it comes. Keep it simple. UTA
This is a very sensible approach. All we can do is take each game as it comes. Keep it simple. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 0

9:40am Thu 10 Apr 14

gilbertthecat says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!
According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted
I take it that's the paper version as it was reported on the website yesterday at least and maybe earlier. There's always speculation about changes between better Champ managers/coaches and struggling Prem teams looking for a fresh approach to save them or bounce back up. If GP is anything to go by then it's not exactly a guarantee of success on it's own. I suspect that either 'interested' team would more likely prefer an established talent next time around. Unlike others I hope OG stays and that key players also remain, whether we stay in this league or go up, as I think this is a long term strategy for success, not a sprint.

And that's what LU seems to be saying. One very good win but there's lots left to do, concentrate on getting something good out of the next game and each one after that. Look forward but not over our shoulders at the 'chasers', which hopefully will include Reading after Saturday. Us fans of course will always keep looking every which way we can.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: BREAKING NEWS!!! According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted[/p][/quote]I take it that's the paper version as it was reported on the website yesterday at least and maybe earlier. There's always speculation about changes between better Champ managers/coaches and struggling Prem teams looking for a fresh approach to save them or bounce back up. If GP is anything to go by then it's not exactly a guarantee of success on it's own. I suspect that either 'interested' team would more likely prefer an established talent next time around. Unlike others I hope OG stays and that key players also remain, whether we stay in this league or go up, as I think this is a long term strategy for success, not a sprint. And that's what LU seems to be saying. One very good win but there's lots left to do, concentrate on getting something good out of the next game and each one after that. Look forward but not over our shoulders at the 'chasers', which hopefully will include Reading after Saturday. Us fans of course will always keep looking every which way we can. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 11

9:56am Thu 10 Apr 14

graham w says...

It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero...
It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero... graham w
  • Score: 0

10:20am Thu 10 Apr 14

Seagull96 says...

Great to see the delivery from the likes of Kaz and Dale Stephens was pin point the other night, just what Leo needs! Doesn't seem to miss with his head! Find it hard to see us losing on Saturday but I'm not going to rule it out completely, roll on Charlton, UTA!
Great to see the delivery from the likes of Kaz and Dale Stephens was pin point the other night, just what Leo needs! Doesn't seem to miss with his head! Find it hard to see us losing on Saturday but I'm not going to rule it out completely, roll on Charlton, UTA! Seagull96
  • Score: 0

10:27am Thu 10 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!
According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted
Was it not the Mail who said we were about to sign Joe Cole? Hmm... the Daily Mail are not exactly known for their veracity.
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: BREAKING NEWS!!! According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted[/p][/quote]Was it not the Mail who said we were about to sign Joe Cole? Hmm... the Daily Mail are not exactly known for their veracity. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 1

11:11am Thu 10 Apr 14

SMF20 says...

Very well said Leo.... If we just concentrate on the performance then the play offs will take care of themselves.

I have to say that Leo has looked pretty peeved these last few months.. fed up with nothing to feed off and possibly fed up with seeing good guys being let go by the club with no-one to replace them. I understand his frustrations....

On the other side of the coin we have some good guys returning from injury.. I would imagine that Stephens energy will make a huge difference to us and CMS has enthusiasm for more than one... My hope would be that it will rub off on Leo and he will find his smile again.
He makes comments about how good Tuesday was and equally he said a few days ago about lack of opportunities for him.

We have it in our locker to keep Leo if we keep with the intent shown against Leicester.. The guy is a fabulous striker and will score most opportunities.. we just have to keep feeding him
Vegas mentioned an effect the win might have aside from the result in a post the other week.. I agree.. its good for morale and the knock on effect could bee huge.
Keep feeding Leo and being positive and we not only stand a chance of the pay offs but we stand a chance of keeping him and showing him that we do intend have a mentality for success that matches his own.
Same to be said for Kaz, Upson and a few others.

OG holds the keys and I think we just might see a different approach from this point forwards.

Uta
Very well said Leo.... If we just concentrate on the performance then the play offs will take care of themselves. I have to say that Leo has looked pretty peeved these last few months.. fed up with nothing to feed off and possibly fed up with seeing good guys being let go by the club with no-one to replace them. I understand his frustrations.... On the other side of the coin we have some good guys returning from injury.. I would imagine that Stephens energy will make a huge difference to us and CMS has enthusiasm for more than one... My hope would be that it will rub off on Leo and he will find his smile again. He makes comments about how good Tuesday was and equally he said a few days ago about lack of opportunities for him. We have it in our locker to keep Leo if we keep with the intent shown against Leicester.. The guy is a fabulous striker and will score most opportunities.. we just have to keep feeding him Vegas mentioned an effect the win might have aside from the result in a post the other week.. I agree.. its good for morale and the knock on effect could bee huge. Keep feeding Leo and being positive and we not only stand a chance of the pay offs but we stand a chance of keeping him and showing him that we do intend have a mentality for success that matches his own. Same to be said for Kaz, Upson and a few others. OG holds the keys and I think we just might see a different approach from this point forwards. Uta SMF20
  • Score: 3

11:59am Thu 10 Apr 14

B-hove says...

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!
According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted
SOS - is there any fresh information that we didn't discuss on this forum when the news first broke?
[quote][p][bold]SeagullOverSelsey[/bold] wrote: BREAKING NEWS!!! According to the mail today OG is set to quit in the summer as he is frustrated over the Albions transfer dealings (or lack of ).The Mail dare I say it are usually accurate from past experience.Norwich and Swansea await developments! Not sure he would if we got promoted[/p][/quote]SOS - is there any fresh information that we didn't discuss on this forum when the news first broke? B-hove
  • Score: 0

12:00pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gilbertthecat says...

One very noticeable thing watching the fourth goal back again was the huge smile on LU's face, especially when IC came up to see him. Really good to see and a good team spirit will be what keeps a team together and drives it forwards, this season and next I hope. So look forward to Saturday, but then I look forward to going to the Amex every time.
One very noticeable thing watching the fourth goal back again was the huge smile on LU's face, especially when IC came up to see him. Really good to see and a good team spirit will be what keeps a team together and drives it forwards, this season and next I hope. So look forward to Saturday, but then I look forward to going to the Amex every time. gilbertthecat
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Ringmer Rich says...

SMF20 wrote:
Very well said Leo.... If we just concentrate on the performance then the play offs will take care of themselves.

I have to say that Leo has looked pretty peeved these last few months.. fed up with nothing to feed off and possibly fed up with seeing good guys being let go by the club with no-one to replace them. I understand his frustrations....

On the other side of the coin we have some good guys returning from injury.. I would imagine that Stephens energy will make a huge difference to us and CMS has enthusiasm for more than one... My hope would be that it will rub off on Leo and he will find his smile again.
He makes comments about how good Tuesday was and equally he said a few days ago about lack of opportunities for him.

We have it in our locker to keep Leo if we keep with the intent shown against Leicester.. The guy is a fabulous striker and will score most opportunities.. we just have to keep feeding him
Vegas mentioned an effect the win might have aside from the result in a post the other week.. I agree.. its good for morale and the knock on effect could bee huge.
Keep feeding Leo and being positive and we not only stand a chance of the pay offs but we stand a chance of keeping him and showing him that we do intend have a mentality for success that matches his own.
Same to be said for Kaz, Upson and a few others.

OG holds the keys and I think we just might see a different approach from this point forwards.

Uta
Therein lies the problem, does OG really hold the keys?
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Very well said Leo.... If we just concentrate on the performance then the play offs will take care of themselves. I have to say that Leo has looked pretty peeved these last few months.. fed up with nothing to feed off and possibly fed up with seeing good guys being let go by the club with no-one to replace them. I understand his frustrations.... On the other side of the coin we have some good guys returning from injury.. I would imagine that Stephens energy will make a huge difference to us and CMS has enthusiasm for more than one... My hope would be that it will rub off on Leo and he will find his smile again. He makes comments about how good Tuesday was and equally he said a few days ago about lack of opportunities for him. We have it in our locker to keep Leo if we keep with the intent shown against Leicester.. The guy is a fabulous striker and will score most opportunities.. we just have to keep feeding him Vegas mentioned an effect the win might have aside from the result in a post the other week.. I agree.. its good for morale and the knock on effect could bee huge. Keep feeding Leo and being positive and we not only stand a chance of the pay offs but we stand a chance of keeping him and showing him that we do intend have a mentality for success that matches his own. Same to be said for Kaz, Upson and a few others. OG holds the keys and I think we just might see a different approach from this point forwards. Uta[/p][/quote]Therein lies the problem, does OG really hold the keys? Ringmer Rich
  • Score: 1

12:31pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

graham w wrote:
It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero...
Well, if he comes and waves to the fans only at the final match against Forest, we'll know he's off...
[quote][p][bold]graham w [/bold] wrote: It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero...[/p][/quote]Well, if he comes and waves to the fans only at the final match against Forest, we'll know he's off... Willie, Willie Irvine
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Brighton Bill says...

fatso wrote:
I would be happy for another performance like Tuesday. I keep reading about Leicester's promotion hangover but our passing and movement from the first minute on Tuesday was better than I had seen for a long while. I did not think we would have a chance of the playoffs before Tuesday but now I have renewed optimism especially with the run in we have.
I agree play lke that and we don't fear any team ,
[quote][p][bold]fatso[/bold] wrote: I would be happy for another performance like Tuesday. I keep reading about Leicester's promotion hangover but our passing and movement from the first minute on Tuesday was better than I had seen for a long while. I did not think we would have a chance of the playoffs before Tuesday but now I have renewed optimism especially with the run in we have.[/p][/quote]I agree play lke that and we don't fear any team , Brighton Bill
  • Score: 2

1:50pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Charlton have two games in hand over their fellow relegation strugglers and that fact might have some effect as to how they approach their visit to the Amex. They have found a bit of form recently, in fact if this was the start of the seaosn and not the fast approaching end, their world would look very different. A point off us might be enough for Charlton and if that is what they come for, we might have a real problem in getting the three points we need. We put on a show at Leicester and got a great result but that, 'show,' came about due to us playing at a high tempo and more importantly, our deliveries into the box were accurate. Whether our lads can deliver that type of performance against a team that parks the bus is doubfull, so far we haven't.

I am well aware that this comment of mine has a negative note to it but if you look at our record against the so called, 'lesser,' teams, I think I am justified in sounding a note of caution. There will be those that think, if we can put four past Leicester surely we should give Charlton, a club twenty points behind us in the table, a right slapping, and that might happen, but I think this match will be harder than the one at Leicester.

Leo is right.
Charlton have two games in hand over their fellow relegation strugglers and that fact might have some effect as to how they approach their visit to the Amex. They have found a bit of form recently, in fact if this was the start of the seaosn and not the fast approaching end, their world would look very different. A point off us might be enough for Charlton and if that is what they come for, we might have a real problem in getting the three points we need. We put on a show at Leicester and got a great result but that, 'show,' came about due to us playing at a high tempo and more importantly, our deliveries into the box were accurate. Whether our lads can deliver that type of performance against a team that parks the bus is doubfull, so far we haven't. I am well aware that this comment of mine has a negative note to it but if you look at our record against the so called, 'lesser,' teams, I think I am justified in sounding a note of caution. There will be those that think, if we can put four past Leicester surely we should give Charlton, a club twenty points behind us in the table, a right slapping, and that might happen, but I think this match will be harder than the one at Leicester. Leo is right. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

2:14pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

2:55pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

When you look at those players that have had a huge influence on our season and take a measure of their availability for selection, I think you can get an idea of just what injuries have meant this year as many sub appearances follow recovery from injury.

Appearances as a starter and as a sub.

TK 37 appearances 0 as a sub.
Greer 37 - 0.
Wrad 39 - 0.
Upson 40 - 0.
Bruno 29 - 2.
Calde 21 - 4.

I think that the consistencvy of their availability tells why they have been so effective this year, the story changes once we move past the back five.

Buckley 27 appearances - 9 as a sub.
Leo 28 - 2.
Kaz 27 - 19.
Orlandi 12 - 5.
Lopez 32 - 6.
Andrews 27 - 3.
Ince 28 - 2.

I have left out the long term injured.
When you look at those players that have had a huge influence on our season and take a measure of their availability for selection, I think you can get an idea of just what injuries have meant this year as many sub appearances follow recovery from injury. Appearances as a starter and as a sub. TK 37 appearances 0 as a sub. Greer 37 - 0. Wrad 39 - 0. Upson 40 - 0. Bruno 29 - 2. Calde 21 - 4. I think that the consistencvy of their availability tells why they have been so effective this year, the story changes once we move past the back five. Buckley 27 appearances - 9 as a sub. Leo 28 - 2. Kaz 27 - 19. Orlandi 12 - 5. Lopez 32 - 6. Andrews 27 - 3. Ince 28 - 2. I have left out the long term injured. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -3

2:56pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Aye Aye says...

Aye Aye wrote:
I have!
To the -9 (probably more by now), I've stopped thinking about it (i.e. it's not a preoccupation) but my anticipation that we'll make it is undiminished - Tuesday night's demolition of Leicester has seen to that

It's all in the interpretation.
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: I have![/p][/quote]To the -9 (probably more by now), I've stopped thinking about it (i.e. it's not a preoccupation) but my anticipation that we'll make it is undiminished - Tuesday night's demolition of Leicester has seen to that It's all in the interpretation. Aye Aye
  • Score: 1

3:10pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
[quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement? VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate.

The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?[/p][/quote]I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate. The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

3:30pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate.

The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.
EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection.
Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?[/p][/quote]I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate. The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.[/p][/quote]EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection. Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

3:45pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate.

The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.
EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection.
Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.
Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad.

Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!)

Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse
rt name of your choice) a hard time.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?[/p][/quote]I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate. The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.[/p][/quote]EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection. Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.[/p][/quote]Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad. Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!) Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse rt name of your choice) a hard time. Ex-pat Arnie
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

I notice that the FFP rules have been subject to a meeting of the Champ Div clubs, (SkY Sports article,) it would seem that the parachute payments are high on the agenda. Brighton reiterated their position with regards to the punishments remaining.
It also seems that, 'live time,' reporting of losses might also come into being, rather than waiting until the new season is half way over, IMHO, this would be a great step forward.
I notice that the FFP rules have been subject to a meeting of the Champ Div clubs, (SkY Sports article,) it would seem that the parachute payments are high on the agenda. Brighton reiterated their position with regards to the punishments remaining. It also seems that, 'live time,' reporting of losses might also come into being, rather than waiting until the new season is half way over, IMHO, this would be a great step forward. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Joel'sGrandad says...

I've said my bit about the play-offs but whether Will Buckley goes to Sunderland it's unfortunately a matter of money. Will has said he wants to stay and I respect that but why move to another Championship team?.
Well, Sunderland will have the benefit of those parachute payments which means they can outbid those teams that don't.
Fully fit he's one of our most exciting players. If we can keep him fit I hope he stays. UTA
I've said my bit about the play-offs but whether Will Buckley goes to Sunderland it's unfortunately a matter of money. Will has said he wants to stay and I respect that but why move to another Championship team?. Well, Sunderland will have the benefit of those parachute payments which means they can outbid those teams that don't. Fully fit he's one of our most exciting players. If we can keep him fit I hope he stays. UTA Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Joel'sGrandad wrote:
I've said my bit about the play-offs but whether Will Buckley goes to Sunderland it's unfortunately a matter of money. Will has said he wants to stay and I respect that but why move to another Championship team?.
Well, Sunderland will have the benefit of those parachute payments which means they can outbid those teams that don't.
Fully fit he's one of our most exciting players. If we can keep him fit I hope he stays. UTA
You are right, when Buckley is fit he is a class player and onthat we would want to keep, but can we keep him fit to play.

The article I read stated that the new signings Poyet bought in have relegation clauses written into their ocntracts, their wages go down if relegation occurs, which it seems it will. As a Champ Div club they will have to look at the FFP implications but I guess parachute payments will help in that regard.
I don't know if Sunderland were in debt prior to the arrival of Poyet, I suspect they were as most clubs are, but if they were, then that debt figure has certainly increased since he took over. Under the FFP rules as they curently stand Sunderland will have to cut their operational losses to 3 million, a large chunk of their parachute payments will have to go for that purpose in their first year in the Champ Div, but yes, they will have, 'some,' money to spend.
[quote][p][bold]Joel'sGrandad[/bold] wrote: I've said my bit about the play-offs but whether Will Buckley goes to Sunderland it's unfortunately a matter of money. Will has said he wants to stay and I respect that but why move to another Championship team?. Well, Sunderland will have the benefit of those parachute payments which means they can outbid those teams that don't. Fully fit he's one of our most exciting players. If we can keep him fit I hope he stays. UTA[/p][/quote]You are right, when Buckley is fit he is a class player and onthat we would want to keep, but can we keep him fit to play. The article I read stated that the new signings Poyet bought in have relegation clauses written into their ocntracts, their wages go down if relegation occurs, which it seems it will. As a Champ Div club they will have to look at the FFP implications but I guess parachute payments will help in that regard. I don't know if Sunderland were in debt prior to the arrival of Poyet, I suspect they were as most clubs are, but if they were, then that debt figure has certainly increased since he took over. Under the FFP rules as they curently stand Sunderland will have to cut their operational losses to 3 million, a large chunk of their parachute payments will have to go for that purpose in their first year in the Champ Div, but yes, they will have, 'some,' money to spend. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -2

4:38pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

We had the Daily Mail article talking of the possibility of Oscar choosing to move on come the end of this season, I see that there is now a story that suggests that QPR will sack Arry if they don't get promoted, Chris Houghton his likely replacement, this one is not from the DM.
We had the Daily Mail article talking of the possibility of Oscar choosing to move on come the end of this season, I see that there is now a story that suggests that QPR will sack Arry if they don't get promoted, Chris Houghton his likely replacement, this one is not from the DM. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

7:09pm Thu 10 Apr 14

fairweathersupporter says...

As we pontificate over whether we should take our latest play off bid seriously and whether indeed to think of it at all... Whether OG would interest Swansea or Norwich, whether Buckley, Ulloa and others will be here next season and in Buckley's case if he is , how many will he play? How come we can beat Leicester and only draw with Barnsley? Are we brilliant? Are we soft and brown or somewhere in between? Jones in charge? Tactics, formations and Trolls? Multi posts from hidden inadequate s who are legends in their own minds...
I ask you on Saturday to forget all of this. Look around you when the whistle blows for the minutes silence. Maybe you'll see friends and family, maybe an acquaintance, maybe a familiar stranger whose name you don't know or can't remember. The annoying guy who always blocks your view when anything interesting happens up the other end. The braggart who knows it all. And think what it must have been like and what it is like for those left behind. Not scousers or scallies, not rivals or or enemies. Yes fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, children... And fans just like those around you.
Perhaps we are more than customers and the importance of the game is less than the coming together of the hopes, expectations and memories of those around us.
As we pontificate over whether we should take our latest play off bid seriously and whether indeed to think of it at all... Whether OG would interest Swansea or Norwich, whether Buckley, Ulloa and others will be here next season and in Buckley's case if he is , how many will he play? How come we can beat Leicester and only draw with Barnsley? Are we brilliant? Are we soft and brown or somewhere in between? Jones in charge? Tactics, formations and Trolls? Multi posts from hidden inadequate s who are legends in their own minds... I ask you on Saturday to forget all of this. Look around you when the whistle blows for the minutes silence. Maybe you'll see friends and family, maybe an acquaintance, maybe a familiar stranger whose name you don't know or can't remember. The annoying guy who always blocks your view when anything interesting happens up the other end. The braggart who knows it all. And think what it must have been like and what it is like for those left behind. Not scousers or scallies, not rivals or or enemies. Yes fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, children... And fans just like those around you. Perhaps we are more than customers and the importance of the game is less than the coming together of the hopes, expectations and memories of those around us. fairweathersupporter
  • Score: 13

7:34pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Falmer Wizard says...

I hardly expected a player agreeing with me regarding the playoffs and going for attacking style at home,but thinking about it Ulloa has been taking a lot of punishment as a result of our one man up front, I would not be surprised if he requested a move if he does not receive the support he needs.
Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on, there is little cash available to bring in more signings,supporters should lay off our coach and accept he has done well in the circumstances
I hardly expected a player agreeing with me regarding the playoffs and going for attacking style at home,but thinking about it Ulloa has been taking a lot of punishment as a result of our one man up front, I would not be surprised if he requested a move if he does not receive the support he needs. Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on, there is little cash available to bring in more signings,supporters should lay off our coach and accept he has done well in the circumstances Falmer Wizard
  • Score: -1

8:31pm Thu 10 Apr 14

ringtone says...

graham w wrote:
It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero...
Did you want him to wave to you, saddo
[quote][p][bold]graham w [/bold] wrote: It was a brillant game tues, the most enjoyable for many a month, what disapoint me was after a display like that leo walked straight off without coming over to fans, he has to try to act it bit more like caldes at the end of a game , PLEASE leo......we want you to be a real hero...[/p][/quote]Did you want him to wave to you, saddo ringtone
  • Score: 2

8:32pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
I hardly expected a player agreeing with me regarding the playoffs and going for attacking style at home,but thinking about it Ulloa has been taking a lot of punishment as a result of our one man up front, I would not be surprised if he requested a move if he does not receive the support he needs.
Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on, there is little cash available to bring in more signings,supporters should lay off our coach and accept he has done well in the circumstances
Sorry but I don't see how a rumour can suddenly become a fact. 'Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on,' if it's only a rumour re Oscar surely nothing is proven until the rumour becomes fact. It is not yet a fact that Oscar is displeased with his role at Brighton. We know why Gus left, he was fired for gross misconduct. We know why he was upset, he decided that we had hit a glass ceiling re spending.
I completely agree with you as far as what Oscar has been able to achieve this season and I hope that he stays and is rewarded with a budget that will allow him to build the squad the way he wants it.
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: I hardly expected a player agreeing with me regarding the playoffs and going for attacking style at home,but thinking about it Ulloa has been taking a lot of punishment as a result of our one man up front, I would not be surprised if he requested a move if he does not receive the support he needs. Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on, there is little cash available to bring in more signings,supporters should lay off our coach and accept he has done well in the circumstances[/p][/quote]Sorry but I don't see how a rumour can suddenly become a fact. 'Rumours concerning Oscar confirm the reason for Gus moving on,' if it's only a rumour re Oscar surely nothing is proven until the rumour becomes fact. It is not yet a fact that Oscar is displeased with his role at Brighton. We know why Gus left, he was fired for gross misconduct. We know why he was upset, he decided that we had hit a glass ceiling re spending. I completely agree with you as far as what Oscar has been able to achieve this season and I hope that he stays and is rewarded with a budget that will allow him to build the squad the way he wants it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 1

8:41pm Thu 10 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate.

The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.
EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection.
Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.
Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad.

Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!)

Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse

rt name of your choice) a hard time.
You are more of a burk than the aforementioned (sorry clever), getting as far away as your purse will allow in having to watch this rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?[/p][/quote]I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate. The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.[/p][/quote]EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection. Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.[/p][/quote]Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad. Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!) Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse rt name of your choice) a hard time.[/p][/quote]You are more of a burk than the aforementioned (sorry clever), getting as far away as your purse will allow in having to watch this rubbish. ringtone
  • Score: -2

8:48pm Thu 10 Apr 14

ringtone says...

Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Ex-pat Arnie wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Knights Temple wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.
Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.
Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them.
I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club.
If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?
I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate.

The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.
EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection.
Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.
Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad.

Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!)

Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse

rt name of your choice) a hard time.
EX p (r) at arnie alias old scrote of the amex, tony pulis, is the biggest troll on this site, please ignore and do not feed,

UTA
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knights Temple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Apparently Poyet will be making a fresh approach for Buckley, even if they are relegated, might be the right time to cash in for a couple of million.[/p][/quote]Like we all know now he wanted the move long ago but the Albion just blocked it.Only people like Ex-pat really believe the rubbish the clubs press guys tell this paper to print.Im sure him & Orlandi will be gone in the summer anyway.[/p][/quote]Considering that both the players you have mentioned, Buckley and Olandi, have persistent injury issues, maybe we should take what we can get for them. I am not sure that Buckley, 'wanted,' to go, and I only say this because he gave an interview where he stated the opposite, 'why would I want to leave,' are his words taken from that interiew and not words supplied by the club. If Poyet does make a bid for him Buckley will choose between staying or going, one Champ Div club for another, what would he gain from a sideways movement?[/p][/quote]I can see why someone would bif say £2m for a fit Buckley, but a player only available for half a season on recent history seems like the gamble of the desperate. The club have stated they do not want to sell Buckley. The player himself has stated that he is not looking to move. If a large enough bid comes in it might yet happen, but I can't see either the Albion or the player making the first move.[/p][/quote]EX-Pat, as much as a bid for Buckley might be a gamble by the bidder, not accepting such a bid might also be seen as a gamble. Buckley has made just 27 appearances with 9 of those being as a sub, to my thinking the reason for his low appearance figure is simple, he was either injured or was recovering from injury. Whether he goes or stays the question is, will he be fit for selection. Orlandi has figures that are even slimmer, 12 appearances with 5 of them as a sub.[/p][/quote]Fair points, Vegas. However, I'm always willing to give an injured player that little more time to prove himself. He (probably) won't have hamstring problems forever, and we won't want to let him go only to find he was just about to get over it. However, there is always the other side to the argument in spending good money after bad. Boy am I glad the club have people better able to make this sort of judgement than me (and of course with access to all the available medical data on Buckley!) Just think where we'd (possibly) be if we'd had Orlandi and Buckley available all season. Maybe there would be fewer people on here giving OG/Burke/Jones/(inse rt name of your choice) a hard time.[/p][/quote]EX p (r) at arnie alias old scrote of the amex, tony pulis, is the biggest troll on this site, please ignore and do not feed, UTA ringtone
  • Score: 0

8:56pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Neville says...

Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.
Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue. Neville
  • Score: 1

9:51pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.
Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility.
If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.[/p][/quote]Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility. If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 4

10:13pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gordongull says...

Difficult to forget the play-offs when Leo keeps mentioning them, (five times in the above article)!
Seriously though, I think players and Coach would be right to concentrate only on the next game, because thinking about being in the play-offs too much teaches the brain to believe you are virtually there, and that is not the mind-set that is needed.
Of course there is no reason why the fans can't think about them all the time, and it might be difficult not to. (Especially with Leo reminding us about them all the time)

I hope Reading don't decide to do a 'Norwich', that would be a cause for concern. We are relying on Adkins to keep their run going!
Difficult to forget the play-offs when Leo keeps mentioning them, (five times in the above article)! Seriously though, I think players and Coach would be right to concentrate only on the next game, because thinking about being in the play-offs too much teaches the brain to believe you are virtually there, and that is not the mind-set that is needed. Of course there is no reason why the fans can't think about them all the time, and it might be difficult not to. (Especially with Leo reminding us about them all the time) I hope Reading don't decide to do a 'Norwich', that would be a cause for concern. We are relying on Adkins to keep their run going! gordongull
  • Score: 1

10:20pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gordongull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.
Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility.
If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO.
What about that idea you had about a French market at the Amex, Vegas?
It could be viable as a revenue stream, although personally, the only reason I would go to Falmer for a bit of brie is if it was Alison Brie.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.[/p][/quote]Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility. If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO.[/p][/quote]What about that idea you had about a French market at the Amex, Vegas? It could be viable as a revenue stream, although personally, the only reason I would go to Falmer for a bit of brie is if it was Alison Brie. gordongull
  • Score: -1

10:29pm Thu 10 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance.
Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way!
Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue,
Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him,
Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished ..
It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .
Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance. Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way! Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue, Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him, Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished .. It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues . mark by the sea
  • Score: 2

10:38pm Thu 10 Apr 14

hannover seagull says...

Win all the next games and then no need to discuss play-offs
Possible?not probable but what do i know

Too much talk ,get behind the mighty stripes

Hope dies at the last throw of the dice
UTA.................
..
Win all the next games and then no need to discuss play-offs Possible?not probable but what do i know Too much talk ,get behind the mighty stripes Hope dies at the last throw of the dice UTA................. .. hannover seagull
  • Score: 1

10:49pm Thu 10 Apr 14

VegasSeagull says...

gordongull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Neville wrote:
Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.
Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility.
If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO.
What about that idea you had about a French market at the Amex, Vegas?
It could be viable as a revenue stream, although personally, the only reason I would go to Falmer for a bit of brie is if it was Alison Brie.
well yeah I could still see a French market doing well and in doing so bring new faces to the stadium, and that might mean more ticket sales in the long run, but that is a revenue stream that has nothing to do with selling players.

I have been thinking about who might have bought the naming rights to our new facility, whilst I have no idea as to who, I would venture a guess that a car company is involved one way or another. Maybe a BMW or Mercedes dealership, perhaps either one directly. Might even be a hotel chain if a deal has been put in place for our new hotel once it's built, but probably not as planning permission has yet to be granted. I'm sticking with the cars.
Now watch and see it turns out to be American Express, again.
[quote][p][bold]gordongull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Buckley will be on his way in the summer,FFP being the main issue.[/p][/quote]Possibly true in that he might go but possibly not for the reason you state. Barber has stated very clearly that we will be compliant, and we have already sold Bridcutt El-Abd and Barnes. We bought Stephens and borrowed Lingard, we must have made a healthy profit. We have new money coming in from what I presume is a better shirt deal than the one we had, and we have sold the naming rights to our new facility. If we were to sell Ulloa it won't be for the want or need of money, not IMHO.[/p][/quote]What about that idea you had about a French market at the Amex, Vegas? It could be viable as a revenue stream, although personally, the only reason I would go to Falmer for a bit of brie is if it was Alison Brie.[/p][/quote]well yeah I could still see a French market doing well and in doing so bring new faces to the stadium, and that might mean more ticket sales in the long run, but that is a revenue stream that has nothing to do with selling players. I have been thinking about who might have bought the naming rights to our new facility, whilst I have no idea as to who, I would venture a guess that a car company is involved one way or another. Maybe a BMW or Mercedes dealership, perhaps either one directly. Might even be a hotel chain if a deal has been put in place for our new hotel once it's built, but probably not as planning permission has yet to be granted. I'm sticking with the cars. Now watch and see it turns out to be American Express, again. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:34pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gordongull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance.
Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way!
Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue,
Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him,
Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished ..
It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .
Are you suggesting there was a mutiny on Tuesday Mark?
If that is the case, 'oscar must go' has been right all along.
Burke, Oscar, Day, and Jones are all surplus to requirements.
Leave it to the players to manage themselves!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance. Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way! Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue, Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him, Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished .. It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting there was a mutiny on Tuesday Mark? If that is the case, 'oscar must go' has been right all along. Burke, Oscar, Day, and Jones are all surplus to requirements. Leave it to the players to manage themselves! gordongull
  • Score: -6

2:08am Fri 11 Apr 14

Baldseagull says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance.
Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way!
Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue,
Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him,
Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished ..
It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .
Doing the rounds or you starting it?

Bovine excrement.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance. Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way! Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue, Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him, Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished .. It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .[/p][/quote]Doing the rounds or you starting it? Bovine excrement. Baldseagull
  • Score: 1

3:46am Fri 11 Apr 14

mark by the sea says...

Baldseagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance.
Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way!
Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue,
Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him,
Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished ..
It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .
Doing the rounds or you starting it?

Bovine excrement.
Silly comment from you, rumours reported in the mail regarding transfers !
Read ulloa comments, read lingards .. I was there Tuesday and that was not the same we have seen week in week out,
The players made statements in January asking for new players, OG himself said last week we had mid table money, and when ulloa was ill he had no options!
All players interviews said how they enjoyed the "new " football, and if you actually went to games ulloa was happy from the moment they came out to warm up....
There have been comments OG had lost the changing room a few weeks ago!
What I will say is OG started with 442 , two wingers, no defensive anchor, ward got to the byline and got forward as did Calderon... No tippy tap football! And we scored 4... Could have scored 2-3 more... Tell me last time that was the case?
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance. Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way! Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue, Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him, Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished .. It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .[/p][/quote]Doing the rounds or you starting it? Bovine excrement.[/p][/quote]Silly comment from you, rumours reported in the mail regarding transfers ! Read ulloa comments, read lingards .. I was there Tuesday and that was not the same we have seen week in week out, The players made statements in January asking for new players, OG himself said last week we had mid table money, and when ulloa was ill he had no options! All players interviews said how they enjoyed the "new " football, and if you actually went to games ulloa was happy from the moment they came out to warm up.... There have been comments OG had lost the changing room a few weeks ago! What I will say is OG started with 442 , two wingers, no defensive anchor, ward got to the byline and got forward as did Calderon... No tippy tap football! And we scored 4... Could have scored 2-3 more... Tell me last time that was the case? mark by the sea
  • Score: 0

9:09am Fri 11 Apr 14

Ex-pat Arnie says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Baldseagull wrote:
mark by the sea wrote:
Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance.
Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way!
Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue,
Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him,
Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished ..
It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .
Doing the rounds or you starting it?

Bovine excrement.
Silly comment from you, rumours reported in the mail regarding transfers !
Read ulloa comments, read lingards .. I was there Tuesday and that was not the same we have seen week in week out,
The players made statements in January asking for new players, OG himself said last week we had mid table money, and when ulloa was ill he had no options!
All players interviews said how they enjoyed the "new " football, and if you actually went to games ulloa was happy from the moment they came out to warm up....
There have been comments OG had lost the changing room a few weeks ago!
What I will say is OG started with 442 , two wingers, no defensive anchor, ward got to the byline and got forward as did Calderon... No tippy tap football! And we scored 4... Could have scored 2-3 more... Tell me last time that was the case?
We also outplayed Leics back in December. Was that player power too?
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Interesting whisper that seems to be doing the rounds ,, I was with a FA advisor at Leicester , he commented that the players looked united before the game kicked off , from that point the performance was nothing like a OG tactical performance. Have the players had words with OG? Various comments were made after the win which sort of hints they played there way! Where we are in football is a year behind the really big coaches, what is found out is the defensive anchor which bridcutt and ince hold is out of vogue, Sides are going back to 442 with pace through the whole midfield, highly coached in the " pressing " game.. I think the sale of Bridcutt was perfectly timed.. His performance Monday was the most uncomfortable a performance I have seen from him, Where the game is going apparently is the 10 work as a unit pressing the ball, it means pace and discipline, good sides will be good enough to pass themselves out of trouble, others will be punished .. It was a marvellous evening Tuesday.. The players were free of constrictive tactics, let's hope this continues .[/p][/quote]Doing the rounds or you starting it? Bovine excrement.[/p][/quote]Silly comment from you, rumours reported in the mail regarding transfers ! Read ulloa comments, read lingards .. I was there Tuesday and that was not the same we have seen week in week out, The players made statements in January asking for new players, OG himself said last week we had mid table money, and when ulloa was ill he had no options! All players interviews said how they enjoyed the "new " football, and if you actually went to games ulloa was happy from the moment they came out to warm up.... There have been comments OG had lost the changing room a few weeks ago! What I will say is OG started with 442 , two wingers, no defensive anchor, ward got to the byline and got forward as did Calderon... No tippy tap football! And we scored 4... Could have scored 2-3 more... Tell me last time that was the case?[/p][/quote]We also outplayed Leics back in December. Was that player power too? Ex-pat Arnie
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