Beasant is betting on Albion

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Albion have been told their solid spine holds the key to their promotion hopes.

Former Albion keeper Dave Beasant reckons the Seagulls can challenge for the Premier League.

And he has put his money where his mouth is by backing them at 7/1 to go up.

Beasant, back in Brighton today to help Charlie Oatway kick off his testimonial season, rates the Seagulls’ 3-0 defeat of Sheffield Wednesday as the best second-tier performance he has seen this season.

Bruno’s goal-making contribution from right-back that night helped earn him a nomination for Championship player of the month.

Beasant is a big fan of Bruno and left-back Wayne Bridge.

But he reckons the middle men hold the key during a tough season, starting at the back with Tomasz Kuszczak.

The ex-England keeper said: “The full-backs are obviously a big part but I think the two centre-halves are as well.

“Because the full-backs have got freedom to bomb on I think you have got to have defenders who can defend.

“Gordon Greer is a bit more of a footballer and likes to travel out with the ball.

Adam El-Abd wants to defend. He wants to tackle people, he is happy to stay back there.

“It’s down the middle. You always want that strong spine and Brighton have got it.

“You’ve got Tomasz who has been great for them, the centre-halves, you’ve got Liam Bridcutt sitting there and Craig Mackail-Smith up top.

“They have got big players in those vital areas.”

Bruno will learn today whether he has beaten Leicester defender Wes Morgan and Crystal Palace striker Glenn Murray to the Championship award.

Albion signed off for the international break with a defeat and two draws but Beasant is convinced they can return to form.

He said: “I saw them against Sheffield Wednesday and the football they played was the best performance I have seen by a Championship side.

“After that performance I put a bet on them at 7/1 for promotion.

“I could probably get a lot better odds now!

“They have learnt a lot from last year, they have got a season’s experience under their belts and they have had a fantastic start.”

Beasant, who has commentated on recent Albion matches for the club’s website and BBC Radio Sussex, will be one of the star guests at Oatway’s Lunch Of Legends at the Hilton Metropole today.

He said: “Chas has earned his testimonial and it’s good what he is doing, giving half of the money to Albion In The Community.”

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11:00am Fri 12 Oct 12

SMF20 says...

Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted.
The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick.
Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays.
Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted. The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick. Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays. SMF20

11:19am Fri 12 Oct 12

4everaseagull says...

Agree a team needs a solid spine as all successful teams are built from the back. Gus has recruited really well where the defence is concerned. I reckon we now have the best keeper and best two full backs in the Division and the two central defenders are not too shabby either. This is bourne out by having the best defensive recors regarding goals conceded so far. The only thing I would add without stating the obvious is that goals win matches and in the last three games we have not looked like doing that with CMS out of the side. SMF 20 brings up the Murray debate again which I agree with we let the player go we should not off. Why the search is still going on for a new striker in the target man mould is beyond me. Ive posted before is it really down to money of is our beloved leader being to fussy over who he wants?
Agree a team needs a solid spine as all successful teams are built from the back. Gus has recruited really well where the defence is concerned. I reckon we now have the best keeper and best two full backs in the Division and the two central defenders are not too shabby either. This is bourne out by having the best defensive recors regarding goals conceded so far. The only thing I would add without stating the obvious is that goals win matches and in the last three games we have not looked like doing that with CMS out of the side. SMF 20 brings up the Murray debate again which I agree with we let the player go we should not off. Why the search is still going on for a new striker in the target man mould is beyond me. Ive posted before is it really down to money of is our beloved leader being to fussy over who he wants? 4everaseagull

12:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Baldseagull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted.
The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick.
Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays.
I like GM but he was nominated on the back of his goal tally for the month, which at first glance is impressive but four from the spot and at least one tap in from a melee out of the other two is not so impressive.
I agree that he would be useful to us now and Gus maybe undervalued him, but I get the impression that Gus felt he was hard work to get going, maybe they just didn't click.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted. The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick. Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays.[/p][/quote]I like GM but he was nominated on the back of his goal tally for the month, which at first glance is impressive but four from the spot and at least one tap in from a melee out of the other two is not so impressive. I agree that he would be useful to us now and Gus maybe undervalued him, but I get the impression that Gus felt he was hard work to get going, maybe they just didn't click. Baldseagull

1:36pm Fri 12 Oct 12

SMF20 says...

Baldseagull wrote:
SMF20 wrote: Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted. The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick. Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays.
I like GM but he was nominated on the back of his goal tally for the month, which at first glance is impressive but four from the spot and at least one tap in from a melee out of the other two is not so impressive. I agree that he would be useful to us now and Gus maybe undervalued him, but I get the impression that Gus felt he was hard work to get going, maybe they just didn't click.
I think you final comment hits the nail on the head my friend. I know the chief scout at Palace very well and I can tell you that the money situation was NOT the motivator in the move. It was simply a case of one manager saying "take it or leave it" and the other making him feel very wanted. I just hope GM doesnt come back and show us his undoubted class again like he did last year. I respected that he did not celebrate his goal against us. Uta
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Its always nice to hear an ex professional appreciating what we have here at BHAFC. Its also nice to know that I am not alone in having a wager on our beloved team to get promoted. The one down point of course is having to read that an ex player of ours is also in the running for player of the month. Ive said this many times before and i know alot of you share the same opinion. GM was one of our main men and we should never have allowed him to leave, we have never replaced him and our search for someone with exactly his skill set is testament to just how much he made us tick. Onwards and upwards though and good luck to Bruno. He deserves recognition for his outstanding displays.[/p][/quote]I like GM but he was nominated on the back of his goal tally for the month, which at first glance is impressive but four from the spot and at least one tap in from a melee out of the other two is not so impressive. I agree that he would be useful to us now and Gus maybe undervalued him, but I get the impression that Gus felt he was hard work to get going, maybe they just didn't click.[/p][/quote]I think you final comment hits the nail on the head my friend. I know the chief scout at Palace very well and I can tell you that the money situation was NOT the motivator in the move. It was simply a case of one manager saying "take it or leave it" and the other making him feel very wanted. I just hope GM doesnt come back and show us his undoubted class again like he did last year. I respected that he did not celebrate his goal against us. Uta SMF20

1:52pm Fri 12 Oct 12

ballantrrae says...

4everaseagull wrote:
Agree a team needs a solid spine as all successful teams are built from the back. Gus has recruited really well where the defence is concerned. I reckon we now have the best keeper and best two full backs in the Division and the two central defenders are not too shabby either. This is bourne out by having the best defensive recors regarding goals conceded so far. The only thing I would add without stating the obvious is that goals win matches and in the last three games we have not looked like doing that with CMS out of the side. SMF 20 brings up the Murray debate again which I agree with we let the player go we should not off. Why the search is still going on for a new striker in the target man mould is beyond me. Ive posted before is it really down to money of is our beloved leader being to fussy over who he wants?
Good posting.
I see Murray actually picked up the award. Since getting these monthly awards seem to be something of a poisioned chalice perhaps it's a good thing Bruno didn't win.
Two other bits of news I have seen in the printed version of the Argus in the last couple of days might be of interest.
Firstly in today's Argus there is a piece on Hosko saying he is back doing some training since Monday. He tweeted 'outside today (Monday) doing a bit of ball work and fitness. Nice to be kicking a ball again'.
The second was in yesterday's (Thursday) Argus in Andy Naylor's Talkback column where he reckons the Albion could still do with another striker'. Naylor goes on to say that 'it was still surprising that the target man option' was not amongst the signings made at the end of August. He expressed surprise since the club had 'been seeking for what felt like an eternity' such a player.
I was glad to see that Andy Naylor has picked up on what a number of us have been posting on here for the last couple of months.
What's most pertinent about Naylor's article in the context of this thread is that the 'strong spine' referred to breaks down at the sharp end when CMS is not around and even when he is would, on occasion, need strengthening by playing a target man.
Lets hope that Poyet and his team rectify this during this International break. I am not hopeful of them doing so but it would be nice to be proved wrong. It looks increasingly likely that it will be January before we see any action on this issue.
[quote][p][bold]4everaseagull[/bold] wrote: Agree a team needs a solid spine as all successful teams are built from the back. Gus has recruited really well where the defence is concerned. I reckon we now have the best keeper and best two full backs in the Division and the two central defenders are not too shabby either. This is bourne out by having the best defensive recors regarding goals conceded so far. The only thing I would add without stating the obvious is that goals win matches and in the last three games we have not looked like doing that with CMS out of the side. SMF 20 brings up the Murray debate again which I agree with we let the player go we should not off. Why the search is still going on for a new striker in the target man mould is beyond me. Ive posted before is it really down to money of is our beloved leader being to fussy over who he wants?[/p][/quote]Good posting. I see Murray actually picked up the award. Since getting these monthly awards seem to be something of a poisioned chalice perhaps it's a good thing Bruno didn't win. Two other bits of news I have seen in the printed version of the Argus in the last couple of days might be of interest. Firstly in today's Argus there is a piece on Hosko saying he is back doing some training since Monday. He tweeted 'outside today (Monday) doing a bit of ball work and fitness. Nice to be kicking a ball again'. The second was in yesterday's (Thursday) Argus in Andy Naylor's Talkback column where he reckons the Albion could still do with another striker'. Naylor goes on to say that 'it was still surprising that the target man option' was not amongst the signings made at the end of August. He expressed surprise since the club had 'been seeking for what felt like an eternity' such a player. I was glad to see that Andy Naylor has picked up on what a number of us have been posting on here for the last couple of months. What's most pertinent about Naylor's article in the context of this thread is that the 'strong spine' referred to breaks down at the sharp end when CMS is not around and even when he is would, on occasion, need strengthening by playing a target man. Lets hope that Poyet and his team rectify this during this International break. I am not hopeful of them doing so but it would be nice to be proved wrong. It looks increasingly likely that it will be January before we see any action on this issue. ballantrrae

3:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Perseus says...

If we can get all our stars fit, notably Crofts and Vicente. And the ball is not allowed above head height we would romp the League. I had Cardiff outright favourites and I cannot write off Leicester. But nothing has yet changed my pre-season view there will a dozen teams chasing Cardiff and vying for second spot. Every single point counts for now and we are scheduled for third place. We wasted three points away against Birmingham. I hope we do not waste any more like that! Birmingham (with a strong home record last year) have wasted many more and then pinched three. Middlesbrough are my outsiders.
If we can get all our stars fit, notably Crofts and Vicente. And the ball is not allowed above head height we would romp the League. I had Cardiff outright favourites and I cannot write off Leicester. But nothing has yet changed my pre-season view there will a dozen teams chasing Cardiff and vying for second spot. Every single point counts for now and we are scheduled for third place. We wasted three points away against Birmingham. I hope we do not waste any more like that! Birmingham (with a strong home record last year) have wasted many more and then pinched three. Middlesbrough are my outsiders. Perseus

3:33pm Fri 12 Oct 12

VegasSeagull says...

We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer.
CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today.

A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS.
We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer. CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today. A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS. VegasSeagull

3:56pm Fri 12 Oct 12

suede27 says...

Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go
Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go suede27

4:42pm Fri 12 Oct 12

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer.
CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today.

A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS.
VegasSeagull your point is taken but remember that it has been Poyet who has consistently been saying that we need a target man type striker for the last 15 months.
He was still saying this in August when CMS was scoring goals and before he was injured.
With both CMS and Hosko out injured the last few weeks have demonstrated how thin on the ground we are for 'out and out' strikers.
Acquiring a target man who can score goals a la Lambert or Holt would achieve a number of things.
1) It would provide support for CMS up front if they were both played.
2) It would provide cover for CMS should he get injured again.More to the point CMS could be rested rather than 'risked' when he has a niggle.
3) It should provide the height and physicality in the box that we so often lack. Someone who might get his head on the end of all those crosses.
4) It would provide Poyet with a different option sometimes off the bench enabling him to change tactics as for example could have helped against Birmingham.
5) It might ease the pressure on CMS and make the team less reliant on him to score goals.
I appreciate that finding the right type of player who would fit our playing style at the 'right' price is not easy (presumably why Poyet is still looking) but that doesn't negate the need for such a player.
Changing the subject there is an exciting young winger up at Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who is beginning to get noticed. He has pace and is equally at ease on either flank who might just be worth the Albion looking at before others do.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer. CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today. A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull your point is taken but remember that it has been Poyet who has consistently been saying that we need a target man type striker for the last 15 months. He was still saying this in August when CMS was scoring goals and before he was injured. With both CMS and Hosko out injured the last few weeks have demonstrated how thin on the ground we are for 'out and out' strikers. Acquiring a target man who can score goals a la Lambert or Holt would achieve a number of things. 1) It would provide support for CMS up front if they were both played. 2) It would provide cover for CMS should he get injured again.More to the point CMS could be rested rather than 'risked' when he has a niggle. 3) It should provide the height and physicality in the box that we so often lack. Someone who might get his head on the end of all those crosses. 4) It would provide Poyet with a different option sometimes off the bench enabling him to change tactics as for example could have helped against Birmingham. 5) It might ease the pressure on CMS and make the team less reliant on him to score goals. I appreciate that finding the right type of player who would fit our playing style at the 'right' price is not easy (presumably why Poyet is still looking) but that doesn't negate the need for such a player. Changing the subject there is an exciting young winger up at Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who is beginning to get noticed. He has pace and is equally at ease on either flank who might just be worth the Albion looking at before others do. ballantrrae

5:22pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Alfie T says...

ballantrrae wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer.
CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today.

A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS.
VegasSeagull your point is taken but remember that it has been Poyet who has consistently been saying that we need a target man type striker for the last 15 months.
He was still saying this in August when CMS was scoring goals and before he was injured.
With both CMS and Hosko out injured the last few weeks have demonstrated how thin on the ground we are for 'out and out' strikers.
Acquiring a target man who can score goals a la Lambert or Holt would achieve a number of things.
1) It would provide support for CMS up front if they were both played.
2) It would provide cover for CMS should he get injured again.More to the point CMS could be rested rather than 'risked' when he has a niggle.
3) It should provide the height and physicality in the box that we so often lack. Someone who might get his head on the end of all those crosses.
4) It would provide Poyet with a different option sometimes off the bench enabling him to change tactics as for example could have helped against Birmingham.
5) It might ease the pressure on CMS and make the team less reliant on him to score goals.
I appreciate that finding the right type of player who would fit our playing style at the 'right' price is not easy (presumably why Poyet is still looking) but that doesn't negate the need for such a player.
Changing the subject there is an exciting young winger up at Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who is beginning to get noticed. He has pace and is equally at ease on either flank who might just be worth the Albion looking at before others do.
We let the very player go that we have been trying to replace,Gus and the Albion get lots right, but they dropped a very large bo...ck not keeping him.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: We didn't need a target man for the first few games, CMS was knocking them in and his teams mates too including Bridge and Greer. CMS gets injured, the goals stop coming and now we need a target man again. Had CMS not been injured, had he helped us get maybe 4 points from the two home games instead of one, maybe the target man would not be so much of an issue as it is today. A target man is a great person to have if you have the predatory striker there to finish off his good work. Who is going to score if CMS is not available, that is the issue for me. Do we need a target man or another CMS.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull your point is taken but remember that it has been Poyet who has consistently been saying that we need a target man type striker for the last 15 months. He was still saying this in August when CMS was scoring goals and before he was injured. With both CMS and Hosko out injured the last few weeks have demonstrated how thin on the ground we are for 'out and out' strikers. Acquiring a target man who can score goals a la Lambert or Holt would achieve a number of things. 1) It would provide support for CMS up front if they were both played. 2) It would provide cover for CMS should he get injured again.More to the point CMS could be rested rather than 'risked' when he has a niggle. 3) It should provide the height and physicality in the box that we so often lack. Someone who might get his head on the end of all those crosses. 4) It would provide Poyet with a different option sometimes off the bench enabling him to change tactics as for example could have helped against Birmingham. 5) It might ease the pressure on CMS and make the team less reliant on him to score goals. I appreciate that finding the right type of player who would fit our playing style at the 'right' price is not easy (presumably why Poyet is still looking) but that doesn't negate the need for such a player. Changing the subject there is an exciting young winger up at Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who is beginning to get noticed. He has pace and is equally at ease on either flank who might just be worth the Albion looking at before others do.[/p][/quote]We let the very player go that we have been trying to replace,Gus and the Albion get lots right, but they dropped a very large bo...ck not keeping him. Alfie T

5:41pm Fri 12 Oct 12

danb666 says...

Where the hell did he get 7/1???????

Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion..
Where the hell did he get 7/1??????? Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion.. danb666

5:55pm Fri 12 Oct 12

saraman says...

danb666 wrote:
Where the hell did he get 7/1??????? Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion..
Likely to be 7/1 title winners and 5/2 2nd or via playoffs. Albion were 8/1 a month or so ago.
[quote][p][bold]danb666[/bold] wrote: Where the hell did he get 7/1??????? Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion..[/p][/quote]Likely to be 7/1 title winners and 5/2 2nd or via playoffs. Albion were 8/1 a month or so ago. saraman

6:03pm Fri 12 Oct 12

saraman says...

saraman wrote:
danb666 wrote: Where the hell did he get 7/1??????? Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion..
Likely to be 7/1 title winners and 5/2 2nd or via playoffs. Albion were 8/1 a month or so ago.
That should have read 8/1 to win title a month ago.
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]danb666[/bold] wrote: Where the hell did he get 7/1??????? Best I could find was 5/2 for promotion..[/p][/quote]Likely to be 7/1 title winners and 5/2 2nd or via playoffs. Albion were 8/1 a month or so ago.[/p][/quote]That should have read 8/1 to win title a month ago. saraman

6:14pm Fri 12 Oct 12

wiseman of hove says...

suede27 wrote:
Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go
If only!
[quote][p][bold]suede27[/bold] wrote: Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go[/p][/quote]If only! wiseman of hove

6:31pm Fri 12 Oct 12

IRISHGULL says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
suede27 wrote:
Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go
If only!
forget about murray mate, but i would love to see bennett back here.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suede27[/bold] wrote: Re-sign Murray. What a mistake to let him go[/p][/quote]If only![/p][/quote]forget about murray mate, but i would love to see bennett back here. IRISHGULL

7:04pm Fri 12 Oct 12

campotolox says...

thought we where talking about a simple game here,not like tiddly winks,what are you lot on?talk about all night, dependes how the tiddly bounces?you do live sad lifes,oh the pies,oh my god!!
thought we where talking about a simple game here,not like tiddly winks,what are you lot on?talk about all night, dependes how the tiddly bounces?you do live sad lifes,oh the pies,oh my god!! campotolox

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