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Sussex snow: Keep up-to-date with The Argus
9:10am Friday 8th January 2010 in News By Richard Gurner
Sledging fun as The Big Freeze continues in Queens Park today (photo Simon Dack)
Tens of thousands have been visiting The Argus website this week for our unprecedented coverage of the snow and ice problems.
People have been turning to our website in their droves for the most comprehensive weather coverage in Sussex.
Our website has details about everything from bus delays and revised timetables, train cancellations and road problems.
Our liveblog, full list of school closures, up-to-date travel information and debate on the severe weather attracted almost 50,000 visits to theargus.co.uk on Wednesday.
Similar figures were achieved yesterday.
Our readers are also joining the debate by commenting on our web stories and sending us pictures.
We now need your help to find the biggest snowman in Sussex.
- Send us your pictures by emailing picture.desk@theargus.co.uk, texting them including the word SUPIC to 80360 or posting them to this Flickr group.
We are looking for Sussex's biggest snowman. We had this picture sent to us from Bolton and the search is now on to find the biggest snowman in the country.
Send us your snowmen (and woman) using the methods above.
Useful links
- The Met Office's Severe Weather Warnings
- Brighton and Hove City Council's severe weather updates
- Live traffic and travel updates
- Southern Railway
- Brighton and Hove Bus Company
- Gatwick Airport
Comments(70)
cheezburger
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2:23pm Tue 5 Jan 10
jaque au lait
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2:32pm Tue 5 Jan 10
jaque au lait
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2:32pm Tue 5 Jan 10
dogs-ball
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2:40pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Pebbles
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2:57pm Tue 5 Jan 10
If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them.
If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls.
Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.
bibble
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3:23pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Pebbles wrote:Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice.
Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.
If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Suzie Q
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4:21pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble wrote:Rubbish, that's the sort of attitude that leaves us with slippery paths and people unable to get out of their homes. If we all cared a more about our neighbours and our community we could have the sort of sensible reaction to snow that our Northern European neighbours have. The city shouldn't stop just because we get a few days of snow and if we all did our bit it wouldn't.
Pebbles wrote:Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice.
Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.
If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
TreasureIsland
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4:21pm Tue 5 Jan 10
garyc
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4:26pm Tue 5 Jan 10
John60
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4:45pm Tue 5 Jan 10
jaywalker
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4:56pm Tue 5 Jan 10
MarcoPolo
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5:08pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble
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5:19pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Suzie Q wrote:Attitude has no bearing on liability. It doesn't matter one bit that the intentions were good.
bibble wrote:Rubbish, that's the sort of attitude that leaves us with slippery paths and people unable to get out of their homes. If we all cared a more about our neighbours and our community we could have the sort of sensible reaction to snow that our Northern European neighbours have. The city shouldn't stop just because we get a few days of snow and if we all did our bit it wouldn't.Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Why do you think law firms offer to sue for personal injury damages, with no cost to the plaintiff?
Voice of Unreason
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5:48pm Tue 5 Jan 10
It will make it easier for us that can do both.
Tye
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6:01pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble wrote:RUBBISH
Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
You really are just a TROLL aren't you!
the_genie
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6:02pm Tue 5 Jan 10
I'd like to see the council do there job instead of talk like it's been done. The proof will be if there is still huges amounts of snow on the roads and 100's of people are being admitted to A&E for slipping on the ice.
B&H council get a grip.
Tye
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6:04pm Tue 5 Jan 10
cheezburger wrote:so long as you have a Good time eh and sod the rest of The World :(
I keep hearing people talk about heavy snow but i can only see reports that claim light snow in Brighton, including the BBC. If it does snow id rather it be heavy. After all light snow is just like a tease. Bring it on :)
Tell us by the way when you are either starting your own news website or giving us a definition of "news"
davyboy
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6:07pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Pebbles wrote:best and most accurate comment of the lot. don't wait for someone else to do it, just do it yourself, and rope your neighbours in too. in fact, i think shops should be held liable if they DON'T clear the snow.
Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops.
If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them.
If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls.
Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.
mintyboy
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6:46pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble
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7:45pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up.
bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.
davyboy
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7:54pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble wrote:it must be SO irritating to think you are right all the time. in actual fact, in this instance, you may well be, but most home owners will be covered by their house insurance for public liability.
Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up.
bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.
TheInsider
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8:56pm Tue 5 Jan 10
It's people like bibble who have dismantled community spirit with their negativity. S/he spreads despair and mistrust and everything is difficult, despairing or a black hole.
S/he is an absolute misery and is enough to make the happiest person feel depressed.
I am off now to help an old lady in the hope she doesn't sue me for doing so.
Gaz the great
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8:57pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble
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9:03pm Tue 5 Jan 10
davyboy wrote:On their property home owners may be covered, but the streets are not their property.
bibble wrote:it must be SO irritating to think you are right all the time. in actual fact, in this instance, you may well be, but most home owners will be covered by their house insurance for public liability.Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Public liability provisions of home insurance would cover somebody walking on their path, but not what they do elsewhere.
RickH
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9:05pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble wrote:Sadly Bibble does appear to be right (see: http://property.time
Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
sonline.co.uk/tol/li
fe_and_style/propert
y/article3205122.ece
) - although it would take a real fuckwit of a lawyer to prosecute and most would be covered by public liability insurance. I intend to clear the snow outside my house in the morning the same way as I did last time and hopefully my neighbours will follow suit.
bibble
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9:06pm Tue 5 Jan 10
TheInsider wrote:Are you offering to underwrite anyone who gets sued as a result of clearing snow?
Don't be silly. Just clear the snow. It's people like bibble who have dismantled community spirit with their negativity. S/he spreads despair and mistrust and everything is difficult, despairing or a black hole. S/he is an absolute misery and is enough to make the happiest person feel depressed. I am off now to help an old lady in the hope she doesn't sue me for doing so.
It is not me who has "dismantled community spirit". I am right to be cautious. If I don't clear any snow, I won't be liable for anyone falling over in it.
MarcoPolo
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9:21pm Tue 5 Jan 10
dave31
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9:27pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Metro Reader on 7.47
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9:28pm Tue 5 Jan 10
12:30pm Tuesday 5th January 2010
NOW unless the Argos (sic) can see into tomorrow this story is (likea lot of others) a LIE.
Gaz the great
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9:28pm Tue 5 Jan 10
TheInsider
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9:30pm Tue 5 Jan 10
You don't like anyone, everything you say is a negative, you know everything and turn beautiful things into a bleak and depressing picture.
For 2010 why don't you treat yourself to some type of positive thinking therapy because it't not good for you or anyone else.
Cheer up, get a broom and clear up.
Be brave, you can do it. Don't be scared of living Bibble. Don't be scared of everyone and what they might think and do. If we had done that in the war we would have appeased Hitler.
Old Dog
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9:40pm Tue 5 Jan 10
bibble
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9:45pm Tue 5 Jan 10
TheInsider wrote:What makes you think I don't like anyone? I like lots of people, and quite a few of them like me.
Bibble you are such a misery and gloom merchant. I have never read such continual negativity. I am sorry if you do have depression, but if you don't, you really do sound like someone who hates their own life. You don't like anyone, everything you say is a negative, you know everything and turn beautiful things into a bleak and depressing picture. For 2010 why don't you treat yourself to some type of positive thinking therapy because it't not good for you or anyone else. Cheer up, get a broom and clear up. Be brave, you can do it. Don't be scared of living Bibble. Don't be scared of everyone and what they might think and do. If we had done that in the war we would have appeased Hitler.
I am entitled to be negative about some things. That is called discernment. Anyone who likes everything lacks imagination.
If it snows overnight up here in the Smoke, I will make the most of it. But that won't mean that I will be clearing snow off the streets.
rayellerton
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9:49pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Forbes Coleman
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9:54pm Tue 5 Jan 10
jaque au lait wrote:Just smash it open.
can someone please find the key to that gritting box in seaford, before its too late, were all doomed i tell ya, all doomeeddddddd.
davyboy
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10:05pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Forbes Coleman wrote:quite right, use some commonsense
jaque au lait wrote:Just smash it open.
can someone please find the key to that gritting box in seaford, before its too late, were all doomed i tell ya, all doomeeddddddd.
Voice of Unreason
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10:21pm Tue 5 Jan 10
TheInsider wrote:Quite the best and most apt posting I have read in weeks. Well done, Insider.
Bibble you are such a misery and gloom merchant. I have never read such continual negativity. I am sorry if you do have depression, but if you don't, you really do sound like someone who hates their own life. You don't like anyone, everything you say is a negative, you know everything and turn beautiful things into a bleak and depressing picture. For 2010 why don't you treat yourself to some type of positive thinking therapy because it't not good for you or anyone else. Cheer up, get a broom and clear up. Be brave, you can do it. Don't be scared of living Bibble. Don't be scared of everyone and what they might think and do. If we had done that in the war we would have appeased Hitler.
Bibble's like the proverbial black hole, sucking all the energy out of life.
Fleapit
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10:29pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Dave At Home
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10:59pm Tue 5 Jan 10
pab
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11:29pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Livid Harry
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11:30pm Tue 5 Jan 10
stickman
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11:59pm Tue 5 Jan 10
Livid Harry wrote:And yet Piers Corbyn, a man-made global warming non-believer who predicted not only a cold winter but also the wet summer, is ridiculed and dismissed as a crackpot. If government had listened to his predictions then we would have grit bins filled nationwide and plans in place for the cold period. But of course the Met Office predicted a mild winter - what council would waste time and effort on cold weather planning given that advice?
What has happened to this global warming rubbish we keep having rammed down our throats then?
John Steed
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12:50am Wed 6 Jan 10
alas bibble is correct about clearing foot paths etc
John Steed
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12:51am Wed 6 Jan 10
heavenscentrose
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3:45am Wed 6 Jan 10
However, we managed to get home safely and are now snugly tucked up. It sounds as if it is currently sleeting heavily, so hope it doesn't freeze later.
On my circuitous journey I saw one council gritter lorry, but it was obvious that they HAD been gritting as the snow was dissolving on the roads. However, it didn't appear that the Old Shoreham Road had been gritted and it was treacherous.
If the next few days bring more snow as has been forecast (up to 16 inches was mentioned on the BBC news) it will definitely be best to stay at home if at all possible.
chris elmes
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7:15am Wed 6 Jan 10
Big Nasty
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7:27am Wed 6 Jan 10
Acheron
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7:44am Wed 6 Jan 10
Its the right thing to do anyway. Others may be happier to sit inside and do nothing and watch people struggle from the comfort of their own window. Thats for them to chose but I'm not going to be scared of doing the right thing by some of the sillier elements of society!
TheInsider
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7:58am Wed 6 Jan 10
Please do the same for your vulnerable neighbours. Not a judge in the world would uphold a compensation case for a good deed.
People have been very silly and gullible.
Tye
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8:08am Wed 6 Jan 10
bibble wrote:so we can sue the council then for doing a rubbish job?
Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
never heard of such a thing but as you're always a 100% correct ......
jaque au lait
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9:08am Wed 6 Jan 10
davyboy wrote:and at exactly what date did you have your sense of humour removed, you d-ick head.
Forbes Coleman wrote:quite right, use some commonsensejaque au lait wrote: can someone please find the key to that gritting box in seaford, before its too late, were all doomed i tell ya, all doomeeddddddd.Just smash it open.
Pretty Vacant
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11:50am Wed 6 Jan 10
Mr. Kipling
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12:04pm Wed 6 Jan 10
bibble wrote:Its the ones who live on unadopted roads who have a bigger problem, because if your road is unadopted your property really can extend to the middle of the road.
davyboy wrote:On their property home owners may be covered, but the streets are not their property.
bibble wrote:it must be SO irritating to think you are right all the time. in actual fact, in this instance, you may well be, but most home owners will be covered by their house insurance for public liability.Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Public liability provisions of home insurance would cover somebody walking on their path, but not what they do elsewhere.
Other thing is if someone wants to sue, they need a name and you can refuse to give your name unless they are police, so if you live in flats then who has cleared the road? Not me guv...
Floreat Hova
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2:04pm Wed 6 Jan 10
tellystar
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3:02pm Wed 6 Jan 10
Mr. Kipling wrote:That's right...unless they figure out where you live because they slipped outside your door......
bibble wrote:Its the ones who live on unadopted roads who have a bigger problem, because if your road is unadopted your property really can extend to the middle of the road.
davyboy wrote:On their property home owners may be covered, but the streets are not their property.
bibble wrote:it must be SO irritating to think you are right all the time. in actual fact, in this instance, you may well be, but most home owners will be covered by their house insurance for public liability.Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Public liability provisions of home insurance would cover somebody walking on their path, but not what they do elsewhere.
Other thing is if someone wants to sue, they need a name and you can refuse to give your name unless they are police, so if you live in flats then who has cleared the road? Not me guv...
twosugars
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3:03pm Wed 6 Jan 10
11:50am Wed 6 Jan 10
"Sorry, it's just that your the sort of person who wouldn't do CPR to save a life, for fear of being sued for breaking a rib..."
in that situation, bibble would be covered by the "Good Samaritan Act"
http://legal-diction
ary.thefreedictionar
y.com/Good+Samaritan
+Doctrine
mind you, if i lived in bibbleworld, i'd end up ringing the Samaritans...
Saker-Clive
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3:05pm Wed 6 Jan 10
Pretty Vacant
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8:17pm Wed 6 Jan 10
Mr. Kipling
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10:47pm Wed 6 Jan 10
tellystar wrote:Well, just have to say it was someone else who lives there then, but you don't know who.
Mr. Kipling wrote:That's right...unless they figure out where you live because they slipped outside your door......
bibble wrote:Its the ones who live on unadopted roads who have a bigger problem, because if your road is unadopted your property really can extend to the middle of the road.
davyboy wrote:On their property home owners may be covered, but the streets are not their property.
bibble wrote:it must be SO irritating to think you are right all the time. in actual fact, in this instance, you may well be, but most home owners will be covered by their house insurance for public liability.Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up. If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
Public liability provisions of home insurance would cover somebody walking on their path, but not what they do elsewhere.
Other thing is if someone wants to sue, they need a name and you can refuse to give your name unless they are police, so if you live in flats then who has cleared the road? Not me guv...
SmileyD
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7:24am Thu 7 Jan 10
bibble wrote:Just goes to show it's best not to believe anything written in the Bibble!
Tye wrote:Actually I am entirely correct. Go and look it up.
bibble wrote:RUBBISH You really are just a TROLL aren't you!Pebbles wrote: Ok... so we have all been warned. So, all able-bodied grab you shovels and clear the snow from outside your property/shops. If you know of less able bodied people then clear the snow for them. If there is a prospective slippery hill near to you then go and clear that too.... as soon as it falls. Remember.. the council have limited resources and the public must help themselves wherever possible.Although what you have suggested sounds sensible, it is not the best advice. If you clear the snow outside your property, and somebody slips on ice that is left behind, you might be held liable. Such is the law in this country.
If you clean the snow up outside your place, and somebody slips over, don't be surprised if you are sued.
stevenk
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12:28pm Thu 7 Jan 10
The law requires you to take reasonable care for the safety of others. If you do nothing about ice and snow on your property knowing that it causes risk to visitors you are likely to be sued (but only if the injury was caused by your lack of activity).
If you take reasonable steps to clear your pathway, front drive or door step, it is not your fault if continuing cold weather causes them to ice up again and you are not liable for anyone slipping.
That was the law when I was still doing personal injury work so either someone has changed it while I wasn't looking or the idea that you are liable for doing the right thing is an urban myth. I think it is the latter.
Ungrim97
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1:37pm Thu 7 Jan 10
We're encouraging residents and businesses in the city to clear and salt pavements in their areas. While we cannot give categorical legal advice, we can say that doing so would be highly unlikely to give rise to any legal liability. Following an accident, a claimant would need to show that:
1. the way the householder tried to clear the ice created or made the situation worse
2. the injury sustained is the result of the actions of the householder and not just snow/ice
3. the actions of the householder were not what one would expect a reasonable householder to have done
4. it was reasonably foreseeable that their action would cause damage or injury to passers by
It is therefore unlikely that any such claims would succeed.
The above is taken from the Brighton & Hove Council website. I have already swept and gritted my steps and pavement outside and I don't care what anyone thinks.
Mr. P
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7:04pm Thu 7 Jan 10
Ungrim97 wrote:It is very nice for the council to say that, but they would not be the ones being sued. The question was raised in the House of Lords and the response was clear, clear the pavement and risk being sued. You can find the response here.
We're encouraging residents and businesses in the city to clear and salt pavements in their areas. While we cannot give categorical legal advice, we can say that doing so would be highly unlikely to give rise to any legal liability. Following an accident, a claimant would need to show that: 1. the way the householder tried to clear the ice created or made the situation worse 2. the injury sustained is the result of the actions of the householder and not just snow/ice 3. the actions of the householder were not what one would expect a reasonable householder to have done 4. it was reasonably foreseeable that their action would cause damage or injury to passers by It is therefore unlikely that any such claims would succeed.The above is taken from the Brighton & Hove Council website. I have already swept and gritted my steps and pavement outside and I don't care what anyone thinks.
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk_politics/3
453039.stm
Bibble was quite correct.
I suspect the reason why the council want people to clear the snow is because it is the low cost option, and because the council is unprepared for eventualities such as snow and, I suspect, other "emergency" scenarios.
Oh yes, I have cleared the pavement outside my house. I have used rock-salt to a) make it safe and b) to demonstrate in the event of litigation that I had taken reasonable care.
(I am laughing at the code word to enter here is deep-work)
gemma34
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9:22pm Thu 7 Jan 10
Tye wrote:cheezburger - you are so right. The rare occurences of significant snow on the South Coast (albeit 4 times in the last 2 years, after decades of snow drought), have been brilliant for kids & fun-loving adults. Many people are driving round unnecessarily as they want to try out their ineffective pseudo-4x4's chelsea-tractors, or are just bored walking round with cabin-fever. If they fall on one of these non-essential journies (ignoring all advice), then they blame the Council!! During this rare natural wonder, everyone should just enjoy the beauty & actually spend more time with the family! As for work & education, it is easy to catch-up later.
cheezburger wrote: I keep hearing people talk about heavy snow but i can only see reports that claim light snow in Brighton, including the BBC. If it does snow id rather it be heavy. After all light snow is just like a tease. Bring it on :)so long as you have a Good time eh and sod the rest of The World :( Tell us by the way when you are either starting your own news website or giving us a definition of "news"
stevenk
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10:07pm Thu 7 Jan 10
Ungrim97's exposition of the law is, in my relatively learned opinion, very good indeed.
For issues like this talk to a lawyer and not a former teacher who went into politics:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Bryan_Davie
s,_Baron_Davies_of_O
ldham
notaconspiracy
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1:35pm Fri 8 Jan 10
Ignore the ASBO-brigade and clear the pavements if you can.
Livid Harry
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3:26pm Fri 8 Jan 10
During the last lot of snow last week they kept the office shut, so that nobody could post anything or collect their pensions etc.
The dustmen have called as usual and so has everyone else.
Is there anyone I can sue for compensation for loss of earnings as I rely on my post for my living?
Fatpat
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11:07pm Sat 9 Jan 10
PeteBrighton
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10:54am Sun 10 Jan 10
scthetruth says...
2:04pm Tue 5 Jan 10