Albion move on Vicente (From The Argus)
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Albion move on Vicente
6:35pm Tuesday 26th June 2012 in Albion By Brian Owen
Vicente
Albion have taken up their one-year option on the contract of Spanish star Vicente.
The former Valencia playmaker is now committed to the Seagulls until June 30 next year.
Albion are offering no further comment at the moment although boss Gus Poyet told reporters this afternoon: "We look forward to seeing the end of all the personal situations with Vicente and bringing him back."
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Ripe seagull.
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6:39pm Tue 26 Jun 12
S!!!!!
mark5
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6:42pm Tue 26 Jun 12
.......hopefully!
markymark03
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6:42pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite
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6:46pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mark5
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7:02pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite wrote:Fair comment and hope you are right. Just seems a little odd and the comments tha Gus has made (or lack of them!)
Way off the Mark5, it's a bit early to even second guess the his motivation, we only had the news 2 mins ago. At least wait until Christmas ;o)
Graysgull
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7:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mark5 wrote:Worries me too, as I seem to remember something along the lines of "we won't activate the option, as it wouldn't be fair. We would like Vicente to make up his own mind" not a verbatim quote, and maybe my memory is not as good as I thought it was, but this does seem to be a bit of a change of heart.
Hovite wrote:Fair comment and hope you are right. Just seems a little odd and the comments tha Gus has made (or lack of them!)
Way off the Mark5, it's a bit early to even second guess the his motivation, we only had the news 2 mins ago. At least wait until Christmas ;o)
tug509
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7:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Ripe seagull. wrote:Same as but 100 more yessssss!!!!!!! You can never have enough Yesssss!!!! UTA
YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
S!!!!!
farside
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7:08pm Tue 26 Jun 12
dave from bexill
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7:09pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mark5 wrote:Gus has been very fair throughout with Vicente and I would think that if he has signedagain then it's because he wanted to. Why on earth would Gus want someone at the club who doesn't want to be there?
Not sure I like the sound of that! Does this mean that he was not a 'willing' signing and that his hand was forced? If so, he is unlikely to be motivated to play at his best and the old injuries might start niggling again! No doubt I am way off the mark with this interpretation......
.......hopefully!
Alan G Skinner
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7:15pm Tue 26 Jun 12
sidtheseagull
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7:18pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Raise a glass of sangria.
The future's bright.
It's gonna be a fantastic ride this season.
bruce beckett
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7:18pm Tue 26 Jun 12
7Rookie
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7:20pm Tue 26 Jun 12
gordongull
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7:25pm Tue 26 Jun 12
An option for another year, not activated because it wouldn't be fair on the player, but now taken up.
I hope this has all been arrived at amicably, and Vicente hasn't been told ''We have ways of making you play!''
Hovite
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7:26pm Tue 26 Jun 12
I still haven't got over the Kuszczak 2 season contract, not forgetting Noone, JFC, KLL and now Bruno are also committed here.
If Vicenete enjoys his time with us he will stay and if he doesn't, a two year contract would be a negative on his performance anyway. It is a win win situation for all involved.
ballantrrae
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7:33pm Tue 26 Jun 12
farside wrote:I couldn't have put it better. Great news.
The conspracy theorists are having a field day! Gus always said that he ould never force Vicente to come back despite having an option on his services.It hs always been up to Vicente and his partner to decide what they wanted. Bruno (and one other still to come as VR's "minders" or "persuaders") is the last piece of the jigsaw that will keep him more than happy to return. Nursery place is already booked. House is leased and furnished. Try to enjoy the moment folks because if you can't enjoy this you may never enjoy anything Albion again!
I suspect BHA exercising the option was the simpest way to proceed. No doubt that was the point when Vicente signed a year ago.
I wonder if Vicente knows who else we are trying to sign. Poyet stated today that he wanted a minimum of 3 more signings and then possibly one or two more.
The 3 to come in presumably being a left back , a midfielder and a striker.
Ringmer Rich
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7:37pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Ripe seagull.
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7:43pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Grendel
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7:44pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Why, if it's straighforward, cut and dried? What "personal situations"? Something's up.
Neville
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7:49pm Tue 26 Jun 12
gordongull
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7:55pm Tue 26 Jun 12
If the club has exercised the option, that's end of story isn't it?
Rhodes Seagull
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7:55pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mikeygit
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7:57pm Tue 26 Jun 12
However,YES great he will be playing at least for another year. I guess it will all come out in the wash!!
Neville
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8:05pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Openmyeyes
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8:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
albion seagull
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8:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
bruce beckett
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8:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
rolivan
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8:07pm Tue 26 Jun 12
bruce beckett wrote:I am with you on this one Bruce.I think the Club have nothing to lose if He wants to go elsewhere it will cost, and if he does I hope it isn't to a Competitor.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
gordongull
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8:18pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Gus is quoted as saying, ''We won't exercise the option, because it wouldn't be fair on the player''.
His contract now has just a few days remaining, without Vicente making up his mind, so a decision was taken at high level, to ensure that his services are retained for a further season.
gordongull
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8:20pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Neville wrote:What exactly is the difference between this, and no contract extension option?
For an extension to a contract both parties have to agree and my understanding is that both parties have to commit and both parties have to renegotiate and both have to sign the extension clauses.
mark5
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8:20pm Tue 26 Jun 12
gordongull wrote:My concerns entirely Gordon. With all the excitement surrounding Vicente's imminent signing this is an anti climax to say the least.
Very curious.
An option for another year, not activated because it wouldn't be fair on the player, but now taken up.
I hope this has all been arrived at amicably, and Vicente hasn't been told ''We have ways of making you play!''
Hovite
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8:20pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Looks like everyone was right to be paranoid about a short lived return!
gordongull
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8:26pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mikeygit
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8:32pm Tue 26 Jun 12
davidinsouthampton
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8:33pm Tue 26 Jun 12
rolivan
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8:34pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mikeygit wrote:He meant breaking wind.
Hovite---rather a sick joke--or at least I hope it is----if not where was this 'breaking news'??
gordongull
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8:36pm Tue 26 Jun 12
mikeygit wrote:The thread was in need of a bit of humour.
Hovite---rather a sick joke--or at least I hope it is----if not where was this 'breaking news'??
Anyway ripping up a contract doesn't invalidate it!
Hovite
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8:38pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Baldseagull
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8:38pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Here is my guess.
Gus has got wind of some negotiations with a Championship rival. It is one thing to allow Vicente to get a contract at a Prem club or back in Spain, but I wouldn't let him walk into another Championship club whilst we had a means to prevent it.
After all, not taking up the option was supposed to allow him to play at a higher level, not just to get a better paid Championship role.
If this is the case, he could well be off elsewhere, but there would now be a fee to pay the Albion.
As I said, my GUESS, but I can't think why else Gus would go back on his word.
Hovite
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8:39pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Neville
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8:40pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Neville
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8:45pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Alfie T
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8:47pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Baldseagull wrote:Wouldn't argue with your theory...
I don't see this as good news.
Here is my guess.
Gus has got wind of some negotiations with a Championship rival. It is one thing to allow Vicente to get a contract at a Prem club or back in Spain, but I wouldn't let him walk into another Championship club whilst we had a means to prevent it.
After all, not taking up the option was supposed to allow him to play at a higher level, not just to get a better paid Championship role.
If this is the case, he could well be off elsewhere, but there would now be a fee to pay the Albion.
As I said, my GUESS, but I can't think why else Gus would go back on his word.
gordongull
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8:50pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Neville wrote:If he's still in Spain, I hope he's on his way to Gatwick!
Vicente is still in Spain,so hardly on way to Gatwick.
keepthefaith
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8:56pm Tue 26 Jun 12
keep the faith onwards and upwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!11
Hovite
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8:57pm Tue 26 Jun 12
rolivan
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9:01pm Tue 26 Jun 12
gordongull
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9:02pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite wrote:No, he ate it, along with the extended contract.
I have heard that he has already got his Tesco's loyalty card.
thewhitehawker
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9:10pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite
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9:10pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs
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9:29pm Tue 26 Jun 12
But.....
If Albion had an option and invoked the clause, it doesn't necessarily mean Vicente is a willing partner in the deal. From Albion's perspective, he didn't need to be. But, given the story and the quotes, someone needs to confirm Vicente is happy - and soon- otherwise it could get very messy....
Albion In Staffs
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9:29pm Tue 26 Jun 12
But.....
If Albion had an option and invoked the clause, it doesn't necessarily mean Vicente is a willing partner in the deal. From Albion's perspective, he didn't need to be. But, given the story and the quotes, someone needs to confirm Vicente is happy - and soon- otherwise it could get very messy....
BobGear
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9:32pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Neville wrote:It's not a new extension to the contract though is it?
For an extension to a contract both parties have to agree and my understanding is that both parties have to commit and both parties have to renegotiate and both have to sign the extension clauses.
The option was agreed when Vicente signed 9 months ago.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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9:32pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs
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9:42pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Cub is well within its rights to invoke a clause everyone was happy with a year ago, so Vicente now has a decision to make - accept it or play his face? Perhaps the club knew he was about to sign elsewhere so decided to play hard ball. Nice one Gus. Hope it works out.
Sounds very much like A club getting fed up with being kept dangling until the option date passes. Definitely sounds like a tactical move to me. Very strange announcement in the circumstances and given the level of anticipation. Bruno hinted yesterday that it wasn't a done deal and he knows Vicente's thinking. More to come...
Willie, Willie Irvine
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9:49pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs wrote:Bottom line - Any club now has to pay Albion to get him...
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Cub is well within its rights to invoke a clause everyone was happy with a year ago, so Vicente now has a decision to make - accept it or play his face? Perhaps the club knew he was about to sign elsewhere so decided to play hard ball. Nice one Gus. Hope it works out.
Sounds very much like A club getting fed up with being kept dangling until the option date passes. Definitely sounds like a tactical move to me. Very strange announcement in the circumstances and given the level of anticipation. Bruno hinted yesterday that it wasn't a done deal and he knows Vicente's thinking. More to come...
Albion In Staffs
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9:56pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Exactly.
Albion In Staffs wrote:Bottom line - Any club now has to pay Albion to get him...
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Cub is well within its rights to invoke a clause everyone was happy with a year ago, so Vicente now has a decision to make - accept it or play his face? Perhaps the club knew he was about to sign elsewhere so decided to play hard ball. Nice one Gus. Hope it works out.
Sounds very much like A club getting fed up with being kept dangling until the option date passes. Definitely sounds like a tactical move to me. Very strange announcement in the circumstances and given the level of anticipation. Bruno hinted yesterday that it wasn't a done deal and he knows Vicente's thinking. More to come...
Hovite
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9:57pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
Albion In Staffs
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10:06pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite wrote:Naievety is such a wonderful thing.... (but I hope you're right!)
If any club was even close to negotiations with Vicente we would have heard about it by now. We have only heard of clubs being interested in him that's all.
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
craigw25
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10:14pm Tue 26 Jun 12
vicente vicente!!
kwaidam
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10:15pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Hovite
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10:17pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs wrote:Funny you should say that, Naivety is the name of my aftershave.
Hovite wrote:Naievety is such a wonderful thing.... (but I hope you're right!)
If any club was even close to negotiations with Vicente we would have heard about it by now. We have only heard of clubs being interested in him that's all.
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
Albion In Staffs
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10:17pm Tue 26 Jun 12
kwaidam wrote:fair point. I hope so too.
let's face it, this looks like a case of hand being forced and the last thing a team needs is their star player to be forced to do anything he is not happy with. of course, it could all be sweetness and light soon, but this does appear to be a worrying development. But, hey, there is no point in worrying about things you can't do anything about, eh? let's hope vicente will come out tomorrow and say how happy is to be a seagull...
Captain Haddock
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10:19pm Tue 26 Jun 12
bruce beckett wrote:You may be right and i've found myself both thrilled and trepidatious about the announcement...the info has been delivered cold and with a slight air of intrigue to it which has sown the seed of doubt and apprehension in my mind.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
If he IS HAPPILY signing then this is truly fantastic news.
If we've activated the option in order to protect ourselves it would be sensible from a financial viewpoint but gutting to know he won't play for us...at least not with his heart.
A while ago I heard strong word that he was to sign and happy to do so. I posted this on here at the time.
A mate who has a separate contact at the club informed me a couple of days ago of the same vibe coming from inside the club, so I am cautiously optimistic I can upgrade my delight into ecstasy!!!
Albion In Staffs
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10:29pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Captain Haddock wrote:Reckon it's self preservation and the next story will be that we've been paid compensation. Tony is an astute man. Then again I am a cynical t+at!!!
bruce beckett wrote:You may be right and i've found myself both thrilled and trepidatious about the announcement...the info has been delivered cold and with a slight air of intrigue to it which has sown the seed of doubt and apprehension in my mind.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
If he IS HAPPILY signing then this is truly fantastic news.
If we've activated the option in order to protect ourselves it would be sensible from a financial viewpoint but gutting to know he won't play for us...at least not with his heart.
A while ago I heard strong word that he was to sign and happy to do so. I posted this on here at the time.
A mate who has a separate contact at the club informed me a couple of days ago of the same vibe coming from inside the club, so I am cautiously optimistic I can upgrade my delight into ecstasy!!!
Willie, Willie Irvine
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10:36pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Captain Haddock wrote:The inside views would fit if Vicente has stringing the club along making the right noises - while somehow not quite confirming his commitment. Not exactly the day of joy some think.
bruce beckett wrote:You may be right and i've found myself both thrilled and trepidatious about the announcement...the info has been delivered cold and with a slight air of intrigue to it which has sown the seed of doubt and apprehension in my mind.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
If he IS HAPPILY signing then this is truly fantastic news.
If we've activated the option in order to protect ourselves it would be sensible from a financial viewpoint but gutting to know he won't play for us...at least not with his heart.
A while ago I heard strong word that he was to sign and happy to do so. I posted this on here at the time.
A mate who has a separate contact at the club informed me a couple of days ago of the same vibe coming from inside the club, so I am cautiously optimistic I can upgrade my delight into ecstasy!!!
Captain Haddock
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10:38pm Tue 26 Jun 12
keepthefaith wrote:Hope this is right!
People need to chill out a little! He is still in spain, his misses having a baby! these are the personal things! He has willingly agreed to come back for another season! i mean his mate bruno has just signed! the club has done this in his absence with his consent to draw a line under speculation until he returns and i think signs a renegotiated extended deal!
keep the faith onwards and upwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!11
bruce beckett
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10:39pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs
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10:40pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Bear in mind any compensation to a contracted club, would curtail a player's signing on fee too.
Captain Haddock wrote:The inside views would fit if Vicente has stringing the club along making the right noises - while somehow not quite confirming his commitment. Not exactly the day of joy some think.
bruce beckett wrote:You may be right and i've found myself both thrilled and trepidatious about the announcement...the info has been delivered cold and with a slight air of intrigue to it which has sown the seed of doubt and apprehension in my mind.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
If he IS HAPPILY signing then this is truly fantastic news.
If we've activated the option in order to protect ourselves it would be sensible from a financial viewpoint but gutting to know he won't play for us...at least not with his heart.
A while ago I heard strong word that he was to sign and happy to do so. I posted this on here at the time.
A mate who has a separate contact at the club informed me a couple of days ago of the same vibe coming from inside the club, so I am cautiously optimistic I can upgrade my delight into ecstasy!!!
This may be all be bollo* but it's worth a thought....
PressBoxTeaBoy
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10:44pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Too many Harveys
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10:48pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Albion In Staffs
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10:49pm Tue 26 Jun 12
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:Not a prayer. Promotion yes, but champs? More chance of Adrian Chiles being voted man if the year.....
Brighton 14-1 to win the Championship. Great bet I think !
Ken in Spain
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11:07pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Maybe it's the weather over there that makes you lot so pessimistic. I live near Valencia and can perfectly understand why he is no rush to get back!
The Real Ryfish
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11:23pm Tue 26 Jun 12
crawleydownseagull
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11:25pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Captain Haddock
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11:53pm Tue 26 Jun 12
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:Yes this could sadly be true.
Captain Haddock wrote:The inside views would fit if Vicente has stringing the club along making the right noises - while somehow not quite confirming his commitment. Not exactly the day of joy some think.
bruce beckett wrote:You may be right and i've found myself both thrilled and trepidatious about the announcement...the info has been delivered cold and with a slight air of intrigue to it which has sown the seed of doubt and apprehension in my mind.
This may be a technicality to stop him signing for anyone else on a free when his contract expires on June 30. Hope this is not the case but it's hardly being billed as "Ole! Vicente happy to be by the seaside".
If he IS HAPPILY signing then this is truly fantastic news.
If we've activated the option in order to protect ourselves it would be sensible from a financial viewpoint but gutting to know he won't play for us...at least not with his heart.
A while ago I heard strong word that he was to sign and happy to do so. I posted this on here at the time.
A mate who has a separate contact at the club informed me a couple of days ago of the same vibe coming from inside the club, so I am cautiously optimistic I can upgrade my delight into ecstasy!!!
Blimmin' hope not though! :0(
Dave in Hastings
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11:57pm Tue 26 Jun 12
keepthefaith wrote:Totally agree! And if the Albion had not invoked the extension, then Vicente could be snapped up on a free by another club, meaning all the medical bills paid to sort out his injuries would be cash down the drain.
People need to chill out a little! He is still in spain, his misses having a baby! these are the personal things! He has willingly agreed to come back for another season! i mean his mate bruno has just signed! the club has done this in his absence with his consent to draw a line under speculation until he returns and i think signs a renegotiated extended deal!
keep the faith onwards and upwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!11
JoeBlow
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1:25am Wed 27 Jun 12
gordongull
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7:24am Wed 27 Jun 12
Hovite wrote:Hope they make a womens'version :)
Albion In Staffs wrote:Funny you should say that, Naivety is the name of my aftershave.
Hovite wrote:Naievety is such a wonderful thing.... (but I hope you're right!)
If any club was even close to negotiations with Vicente we would have heard about it by now. We have only heard of clubs being interested in him that's all.
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
Ringmer Rich
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7:37am Wed 27 Jun 12
"The ex-Valencia right-back agreed a two-year deal with the Championship club on Monday and will link up with another former Los Che star in Vicente, who has agreed a one-year contract extension." SkySports
who has agreed....
Albion fan in London
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7:38am Wed 27 Jun 12
davidinsouthampton
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7:40am Wed 27 Jun 12
JoeBlow wrote:Totally agree, although I would err on the side that he is more likely to stay than to go elsewhere. This is "just in case", and is a business decision and not about forcing the man to do something he doesn't want to do.
It is very simple, folks. Vicente hasn't made up his mind yet. The club are protecting their asset by activating the extra year clause. This doesn't mean he's coming back, it doesn't mean the club are making him come back. The club will still go along with whatever he decides and will not stand in his way if he decides to go elsewhere (especially if he feels he needs to be back home in Spain). But as others have said, it means the club can demand a fee for him. Fair all around, given that no decision has yet been made. In other words, simply a business decision that means little, and that is why the club aren't saying anything else - there IS nothing else to say.
Alfie T
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7:49am Wed 27 Jun 12
dave from bexill
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7:58am Wed 27 Jun 12
Albion fan in London
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7:59am Wed 27 Jun 12
davidinsouthampton wrote:Great post, and a solid TB business stance if true. Sometimes a player that everyone really wants isnt always whats best for us either
JoeBlow wrote:Totally agree, although I would err on the side that he is more likely to stay than to go elsewhere. This is "just in case", and is a business decision and not about forcing the man to do something he doesn't want to do.
It is very simple, folks. Vicente hasn't made up his mind yet. The club are protecting their asset by activating the extra year clause. This doesn't mean he's coming back, it doesn't mean the club are making him come back. The club will still go along with whatever he decides and will not stand in his way if he decides to go elsewhere (especially if he feels he needs to be back home in Spain). But as others have said, it means the club can demand a fee for him. Fair all around, given that no decision has yet been made. In other words, simply a business decision that means little, and that is why the club aren't saying anything else - there IS nothing else to say.
dave from bexill
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8:08am Wed 27 Jun 12
I still believe it's going to become a done deal very soon.
football's coming home
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8:23am Wed 27 Jun 12
Neville wrote:This.
The way I am now reading this having visited all relevant sites is that the Albion have exercised their right for the one year extension,which had to be done by 30 June as things between the club and Vicente have still not been fuly agreed,it is now up to Vicente to agree or move elsewhere.
mark by the sea
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8:28am Wed 27 Jun 12
football's coming home wrote:the year agreement is contractual, Vicente is now registered at this club for 12 months, Maybe the club will sell him on to another club? and take 500k? Vicente cant play for anyone else till his contract is released .
Neville wrote: The way I am now reading this having visited all relevant sites is that the Albion have exercised their right for the one year extension,which had to be done by 30 June as things between the club and Vicente have still not been fuly agreed,it is now up to Vicente to agree or move elsewhere.This.
Rhodes Seagull
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8:45am Wed 27 Jun 12
mark by the sea wrote:If this is correct it seems like a ransom on Vicente, If the club want the best out of the player then surely the club should or would not go in heavy handed, If you where treated in this way at work by an employer would you give 100%/ No I don't think so. I am just wondering why the club have put this out the way it seems to be, it is not like the club to use an aggressive manner against there players, maybe the wording or even the timing of this was not correct. I hope that early today the club clarify the statement in a way that we can all understand and that both both the club and the player reached the decision together.
football's coming home wrote:the year agreement is contractual, Vicente is now registered at this club for 12 months, Maybe the club will sell him on to another club? and take 500k? Vicente cant play for anyone else till his contract is released .
Neville wrote: The way I am now reading this having visited all relevant sites is that the Albion have exercised their right for the one year extension,which had to be done by 30 June as things between the club and Vicente have still not been fuly agreed,it is now up to Vicente to agree or move elsewhere.This.
gordongull
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9:41am Wed 27 Jun 12
Would £9 million be a little over-ambitious as he only has a year on his contract?
£5 million might be more realistic.
phumps
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9:43am Wed 27 Jun 12
Hovite
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9:50am Wed 27 Jun 12
gordongull wrote:In drink form ;o)
Hovite wrote:Hope they make a womens'version :)
Albion In Staffs wrote:Funny you should say that, Naivety is the name of my aftershave.
Hovite wrote:Naievety is such a wonderful thing.... (but I hope you're right!)
If any club was even close to negotiations with Vicente we would have heard about it by now. We have only heard of clubs being interested in him that's all.
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
kumquat
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9:58am Wed 27 Jun 12
Rhodes Seagull wrote:It's simple. Because the contract runs out on Saturday and he hasn't made his mind up. They had two choices. One, wait for him to make his mind up and lose him for nothing or take the one-year option and at least get something for him. I'm sure Vicente understands that as well.
mark by the sea wrote:If this is correct it seems like a ransom on Vicente, If the club want the best out of the player then surely the club should or would not go in heavy handed, If you where treated in this way at work by an employer would you give 100%/ No I don't think so. I am just wondering why the club have put this out the way it seems to be, it is not like the club to use an aggressive manner against there players, maybe the wording or even the timing of this was not correct. I hope that early today the club clarify the statement in a way that we can all understand and that both both the club and the player reached the decision together.football's coming home wrote:the year agreement is contractual, Vicente is now registered at this club for 12 months, Maybe the club will sell him on to another club? and take 500k? Vicente cant play for anyone else till his contract is released .Neville wrote: The way I am now reading this having visited all relevant sites is that the Albion have exercised their right for the one year extension,which had to be done by 30 June as things between the club and Vicente have still not been fuly agreed,it is now up to Vicente to agree or move elsewhere.This.
mikeygit
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10:23am Wed 27 Jun 12
gordongull
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10:39am Wed 27 Jun 12
Hovite wrote:Indeed.
gordongull wrote:In drink form ;o)
Hovite wrote:Hope they make a womens'version :)
Albion In Staffs wrote:Funny you should say that, Naivety is the name of my aftershave.
Hovite wrote:Naievety is such a wonderful thing.... (but I hope you're right!)
If any club was even close to negotiations with Vicente we would have heard about it by now. We have only heard of clubs being interested in him that's all.
Gus said months ago that we will know 30th June and the rest of the story is media management. We have had lots to digest already and there is nothing wrong spreading the stories out.
That's my theory anyway, but I could be wrong.
I don't wish to try my luck with women who shave above the neck!
gordongull
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10:48am Wed 27 Jun 12
mikeygit wrote:Cloughie wouldhave discussed it with the player if mobile phones had been around then.
Kumquat---I think you have hit the nail on the head. Vicente has other things on his mind--a new baby--how wonderful---his wife and family to think of. The Spanish are VERY family orientated--I live there. Rather than let his contract lapse and have to go thru a lot of unncessary paperwork and negotiations, Gus and the Board have opted for Plan B and I am sure in the real business world of football Gus would have discussed it with Vicente on the phone and he would have been happy with that and discussed the finer details when he is back at the Amex. Not even Brian Clough would have done this without talking to the player!!!
''U r retained''.
Far gull says...
6:38pm Tue 26 Jun 12