Norwich in for Albion star Macca (From The Argus)

Dr Baldhead wrote:
Would behappy if we get our money back and re-invest it on someone who better fits into our style.

Yogi wrote:
If the money's right and another player(s) are already in the loop then it will, sadly, happen.

rolivan wrote:
I can't fault His work rate but it is goals that win games and 10 in a season isn't good enough.Gus must have known last year how the team was going to be set up so something wasn't right.If CMS goes I will not be that upset as long as we at least get our money back.The next 19 hours could get very exciting.I think Gus is a big Fan of Ashley Barnes and I can't remember how much He cost but He has been a better buy than CMS;

championshipgull wrote:
Gus says on the official club site "My phone has been ringing so much that I've had to charge my phone four times on each of the last two days. It's been non-stop.” Looks like someone is working hard to make the signings fall into place.

Hovite wrote:

rolivan wrote:
I can't fault His work rate but it is goals that win games and 10 in a season isn't good enough.Gus must have known last year how the team was going to be set up so something wasn't right.If CMS goes I will not be that upset as long as we at least get our money back.The next 19 hours could get very exciting.I think Gus is a big Fan of Ashley Barnes and I can't remember how much He cost but He has been a better buy than CMS;

Can I refer you to my comment above?

Nathan L wrote:
i really don't want to lose cms, noone could have a good work rate but in the end he just couldn't provide in terms of crosses and through balls. CMS is on another level from noone in terms of impact in the team, he applies so much pressure on the opposition and creates many of his own chances. With someone to assist cms he would score more.

rolivan wrote:

Hovite wrote:

rolivan wrote:
I can't fault His work rate but it is goals that win games and 10 in a season isn't good enough.Gus must have known last year how the team was going to be set up so something wasn't right.If CMS goes I will not be that upset as long as we at least get our money back.The next 19 hours could get very exciting.I think Gus is a big Fan of Ashley Barnes and I can't remember how much He cost but He has been a better buy than CMS;

Can I refer you to my comment above?

What about the Games so far?Against Barnsley would the 2 Goals He "scored" not have gone in anyway if he hadn't touched them.I cannot fault His attitude but a Striker is judged and valued on Goals.

davidinsouthampton wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Hovite wrote:

rolivan wrote:
I can't fault His work rate but it is goals that win games and 10 in a season isn't good enough.Gus must have known last year how the team was going to be set up so something wasn't right.If CMS goes I will not be that upset as long as we at least get our money back.The next 19 hours could get very exciting.I think Gus is a big Fan of Ashley Barnes and I can't remember how much He cost but He has been a better buy than CMS;

Can I refer you to my comment above?

What about the Games so far?Against Barnsley would the 2 Goals He "scored" not have gone in anyway if he hadn't touched them.I cannot fault His attitude but a Striker is judged and valued on Goals.

So if we are purely after goals, it is a pity we missed out on Robin Van Persie. CMS brings much, much more to the team and the club than goals.

VegasSeagull wrote:
I see that Sir Alex has two youn gguns that he wants to place on loan, I would not be at all surprised if one or both came to Brighton. I am not suggesting that they would be first team line up players, but I bet they would be close to the starting line up and would be seen at some point of the season, FA Cup matches maybe.

championshipgull wrote:
Gus says on the official club site "My phone has been ringing so much that I've had to charge my phone four times on each of the last two days. It's been non-stop.” Looks like someone is working hard to make the signings fall into place.

Cardiffcgull wrote:
Local fans here are over the moon about getting Noony - local paper points out how he tore their defence to sheds a couple of weeks ago. According to local papers it's deal done on that Spanish lad from Swansea. Can't we afford B.Z. now?

Hovite wrote:
Before anyone says anything I double posted to make a point. A deliberate mistake.

davidinsouthampton wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Hovite wrote:

rolivan wrote: I can't fault His work rate but it is goals that win games and 10 in a season isn't good enough.Gus must have known last year how the team was going to be set up so something wasn't right.If CMS goes I will not be that upset as long as we at least get our money back.The next 19 hours could get very exciting.I think Gus is a big Fan of Ashley Barnes and I can't remember how much He cost but He has been a better buy than CMS;

Can I refer you to my comment above?

What about the Games so far?Against Barnsley would the 2 Goals He "scored" not have gone in anyway if he hadn't touched them.I cannot fault His attitude but a Striker is judged and valued on Goals.

So if we are purely after goals, it is a pity we missed out on Robin Van Persie. CMS brings much, much more to the team and the club than goals.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Rolivan your point is well taken but I would suggest that we consider how strikers work best.

Most strikers have a partner, they feed off each other and know what is going to happen without even thinking. The partner might not be an out and out striker, often it's a attacking midfield player who creates that special relationship.

As you now get to see Brighton play and I don't, well I did see a few games last season, you probably know just how isolated CMS has been, he certainly was during the matches I got to see.

Gus has identified the problem, he feels he knows the solution and I am not going to question his judgement, he knows a lot more than I do about the game.

If the plan is to play with just one striker up front them yes I agree with you, CMS is probaly not the right man for that attack formation, but that is not the intent.

How many goals did Wardy score feeding off of Spider, they has that special relationship, and I am not just talking of the knockdowns when Spider would climb above the defenses we faced.

When all the trading has been done, when every team has it's players in place, including Brighton, then we can watch and see just whose deals worked and whose didn't. If Gus can secure the right guy to work along side CMS I feel sure that his 20 goals will come.

Hovite wrote:

Dr Baldhead wrote:
Would behappy if we get our money back and re-invest it on someone who better fits into our style.

To be fair we didn't have a style to suit most strikers last year. This year is different, and I for one would like to see CMS staying and performing in our new improved team this season.

His attitude is worth a good a few million and he leads by example.

VegasSeagull wrote:
I feel certain that CMS goes nowhere unless some stupid offer is made and if the lad agrees to go and I don't think a stupid offer will come. I doubt that much sleep will be got by some at the club tonight, the deals will keep on coming, or at least trying to come. Bergy gone on loan, clearly zero future with the club unless getting regular games brings him on real quick. I would have thought Sparrow and especialy Vincelot would have gone by now, I have to think that people are talking to us about those two. Pretty sure that we will not have to wait untill tomorrow to hear more about whi is ocming in. . ,

VegasSeagull wrote:
I see that Sir Alex has two youn gguns that he wants to place on loan, I would not be at all surprised if one or both came to Brighton. I am not suggesting that they would be first team line up players, but I bet they would be close to the starting line up and would be seen at some point of the season, FA Cup matches maybe.

fairweathersupporter wrote:
So Noone gone and general consent is good luck but better quality available, albeit concern over injuries.
CMS; by no means a disaster if replaced but would be interesting to see him with better option up front and of course he can play on the wing in a three but not done deal...
Orlandi seems to be on his way and is a Gus type player and maybe 'fit' into the current Dicker role (?). Not a major piece in the puzzle though. Maybe just an option for what i presume is a nominal fee.
Second guessing the current window is not for the feint hearted.
Where our striker is coming from is anyone's guess. West Ham looked to be off loading but now that they've given up on Carrol and Maynard's on his way to Cardiff? Cole would be the type of player you would expect them to hold on to.
The Bobby Z dream is still that. I think he is very much part of Hughes's plans and despite our sudden influx of additional funds, would still be outside the budget. However, if he did want to come back, now would be a very good time. He'd be a god here...
Midfield is still on Gus's mind according to the club website. Limited cover for Bridcutt and Crofts is a concern. We never did get that box to box midfielder (even though Crofts is a great signing).
It is going to be a very interesting 30 odd hours. And for all those who are satisfied with our lot, i point you once again to the stated ambition for the season: TOP SIX. Both board and manager have been quoted. I will be satisfied with less but i would prefer that fingers cannot be pointed regarding the integrity of the club regarding it's intent and it's ability to deliver. To be fair there are seemingly tight controls on the finances and rightly so. But we've got a great chairman and a good manager. If all we can do is compete at the higher end of mid table then fine. Aim higher by all means but don't raise expectation unnecessarily... The truth of the matter remains to be seen. Whatever the outcome, we've come a long, long way together.

bruce beckett wrote:
I like CMS for his energy, enthusiasm and attitude. I also believe he will score goals at any level. I keep reading he doesn't fit into our system but good players can play in any system. The only way I would approve of him leaving is if we were to replace him with someone like Rickie Lambert, which I would imagine is highly unlikely.

fairweathersupporter wrote:
So Noone gone and general consent is good luck but better quality available, albeit concern over injuries.
CMS; by no means a disaster if replaced but would be interesting to see him with better option up front and of course he can play on the wing in a three but not done deal...
Orlandi seems to be on his way and is a Gus type player and maybe 'fit' into the current Dicker role (?). Not a major piece in the puzzle though. Maybe just an option for what i presume is a nominal fee.
Second guessing the current window is not for the feint hearted.
Where our striker is coming from is anyone's guess. West Ham looked to be off loading but now that they've given up on Carrol and Maynard's on his way to Cardiff? Cole would be the type of player you would expect them to hold on to.
The Bobby Z dream is still that. I think he is very much part of Hughes's plans and despite our sudden influx of additional funds, would still be outside the budget. However, if he did want to come back, now would be a very good time. He'd be a god here...
Midfield is still on Gus's mind according to the club website. Limited cover for Bridcutt and Crofts is a concern. We never did get that box to box midfielder (even though Crofts is a great signing).
It is going to be a very interesting 30 odd hours. And for all those who are satisfied with our lot, i point you once again to the stated ambition for the season: TOP SIX. Both board and manager have been quoted. I will be satisfied with less but i would prefer that fingers cannot be pointed regarding the integrity of the club regarding it's intent and it's ability to deliver. To be fair there are seemingly tight controls on the finances and rightly so. But we've got a great chairman and a good manager. If all we can do is compete at the higher end of mid table then fine. Aim higher by all means but don't raise expectation unnecessarily... The truth of the matter remains to be seen. Whatever the outcome, we've come a long, long way together.

Captain Haddock wrote:
Reckon CMS will stay unless a truly silly offer comes in.

We won't lose money on him as we'll be unwilling to sell and therefore Norwich or any other potential poachers will have to pay through the nose to meet our valuation.

mikeygit wrote:
Now 8.30 British time---CarrollIS going to West Ham on Loan---not that that will make any difference to us. Bet Gus will be burning the midnight oil tonight. Wonder what the morning will bring by way of any signings IN or OUT

VegasSeagull wrote:
Boothroyd story lower down, that's all.

Press Box, why is it Bizarre?

VegasSeagull wrote:
I feel certain that CMS goes nowhere unless some stupid offer is made and if the lad agrees to go and I don't think a stupid offer will come.

I doubt that much sleep will be got by some at the club tonight, the deals will keep on coming, or at least trying to come. Bergy gone on loan, clearly zero future with the club unless getting regular games brings him on real quick.

I would have thought Sparrow and especialy Vincelot would have gone by now, I have to think that people are talking to us about those two.

Pretty sure that we will not have to wait untill tomorrow to hear more about whi is ocming in. . ,

Dr Baldhead wrote:
Would behappy if we get our money back and re-invest it on someone who better fits into our style.

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Boothroyd and Tuncay. Neither of which are really a replacement for Noonie. I guess that means there's still another to come.... Watch this space....

VegasSeagull wrote:
Something has changed in the way we are doing business, it may not be us that has brought about the change but the change is there.

Gus manages to sign players with not a single word getting out untill the deal has been done, think of Noone's leaving.
Now we find that Sky Sports seems to know every move we are making and is making those moves public.

Why the change from playing your cards so close to your chest that no one even has an idea of what you are playing, to what an only be termed as a, media blitz by comparisom.

Spell check last word.

bha1901 wrote:
Poyet bought all these players and they all seem to be going or don't fit his 'system'. Surprised TB is not questioning the money he is spending and his managerial skills.

VegasSeagull wrote:

bha1901 wrote:
Poyet bought all these players and they all seem to be going or don't fit his 'system'. Surprised TB is not questioning the money he is spending and his managerial skills.

Are you for real, I doubt it.

The players he bought (bought is past tense) took us to tenth in the division, last season, (last season is past tense). The goal last season was to finish having given a good account of ourselves, we did that.

The stated goal this season is top six or better, (this season is present tense).
The players he bought last year did what was expected of them. Noone going is as much about taking a great offer as it is about the fact that we have more players than needed for the role he played.
Yes one or two of last years signings will go but the main reason for that is that we now have superior players, players that we did not have last year and could not get last year. Who do you want, Bridge of Vincelot? It is not that they are not decent players, it's just that they are nowhere near as good as their replacements.

Bergcamp has left on loan and I doubt that he will get a contract from Gus but you must remeber what Gus told us when he signed him, this players is destined for the development squad. Not every player will develop as quick as other and some may not develop at all, but you don't know untill you give them a chance.

TB, I am sure, rates Gus higher than any other manager in our division, I would bet you a lot of money that he wouldn't change him for any of his peer group within the championship division.

And you call yourself a fan, man you don't want to know what I would call you if it wouldn't get me barred from the site.

ballantrrae wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I feel certain that CMS goes nowhere unless some stupid offer is made and if the lad agrees to go and I don't think a stupid offer will come.

I doubt that much sleep will be got by some at the club tonight, the deals will keep on coming, or at least trying to come. Bergy gone on loan, clearly zero future with the club unless getting regular games brings him on real quick.

I would have thought Sparrow and especialy Vincelot would have gone by now, I have to think that people are talking to us about those two.

Pretty sure that we will not have to wait untill tomorrow to hear more about whi is ocming in. . ,

Sorry to disagree VegasSeagull but it looks as if most of the deals are going to be executed tomorrow if at all.
Pretty certain something will happen though just when I will be driving (tomorrow) on Holiday in France ! C'est la Vie.

The Phantom wrote:
Orlandi has already signed according to Wikipedia.

rolivan wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I feel certain that CMS goes nowhere unless some stupid offer is made and if the lad agrees to go and I don't think a stupid offer will come.

I doubt that much sleep will be got by some at the club tonight, the deals will keep on coming, or at least trying to come. Bergy gone on loan, clearly zero future with the club unless getting regular games brings him on real quick.

I would have thought Sparrow and especialy Vincelot would have gone by now, I have to think that people are talking to us about those two.

Pretty sure that we will not have to wait untill tomorrow to hear more about whi is ocming in. . ,

Sorry to disagree VegasSeagull but it looks as if most of the deals are going to be executed tomorrow if at all.
Pretty certain something will happen though just when I will be driving (tomorrow) on Holiday in France ! C'est la Vie.

May I ask where in France?

The Real Ryfish wrote:

The Phantom wrote:
Orlandi has already signed according to Wikipedia.

Yeah, but I could edit it and say he'd signed for Palace. Don't believe recent edits on Wikipedia, it's not a primary source.

ballantrrae wrote:

rolivan wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
I feel certain that CMS goes nowhere unless some stupid offer is made and if the lad agrees to go and I don't think a stupid offer will come.

I doubt that much sleep will be got by some at the club tonight, the deals will keep on coming, or at least trying to come. Bergy gone on loan, clearly zero future with the club unless getting regular games brings him on real quick.

I would have thought Sparrow and especialy Vincelot would have gone by now, I have to think that people are talking to us about those two.

Pretty sure that we will not have to wait untill tomorrow to hear more about whi is ocming in. . ,

Sorry to disagree VegasSeagull but it looks as if most of the deals are going to be executed tomorrow if at all.
Pretty certain something will happen though just when I will be driving (tomorrow) on Holiday in France ! C'est la Vie.

May I ask where in France?

Near Cahors, Rolivan.
Arrive Saturday afternoon after staying tomorrow night en route. There for a couple of weeks which means I miss the Wednesday game.
International breaks are useful especially for integrating new players into Poyet's playing style.
No doubt on Saturday once I am online I will find out who has left and who has joined the 'Gus Bus'.
Still no news or rumours even about a CB.

davidinsouthampton wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote:
Reckon CMS will stay unless a truly silly offer comes in.

We won't lose money on him as we'll be unwilling to sell and therefore Norwich or any other potential poachers will have to pay through the nose to meet our valuation.

Just seen something on Sky Sports website which says that Chris Hughton is happy with his window dealings and will not be worried if nothing else happens.

Although he says that if the right deal comes up, he would do it, it does not imply he would push the boat out to land CMS.